Pownce is best, but it is too unactive, twitter is too unstable and replying is annoying, plurk is weird, identi.ca is even weirder. So I think best micro-blog is kwippy, or Pownce.
- k00pa
I hate Twitter & Plurk & Identi.ca. Pownce is ok but I think Kwippy is best.
- ChaCha Fance
what about jaiku ? It didn't make the list...
- Yvon Bayonne
Pownce probably is the best but Twitter still has a much larger user base, Plurk is childish and identi.ca has nothing different other than login with OpenID. I'm still trying out Kwippy
- João Almeida
from twhirl
I wish Pownce was big as Twitter, that would make it the best. But I'm commenting on FriendFeed. Go figure.
- phil baumann
I'm begining to think of Disqus as a micro blogging format. it does have a linear quality as well. and it takes in Seesmic which I like
- NoahDavidSimon
Jaiku and youare are not on list, because I forgot that them also exist.
- k00pa
I am a Jaiku fan: best of all these worlds. Too bad Google killed it... ;(
- Barbara K. Baker
Twitter for rate of growth (but not for quality), Pownce for quality but not mass. I'm not big on Plurk, but I'm trying out Kwippy this week and like the idea so far.
- Garza
Twitter for ease-of-use, simple GUI, first to market.
- Rebecca Povio
the new Gtalk with open social is going to be kewl
- paisley
Plurk, not perfect but great GUI and more addictive than the rest
- Kol Tregaskes
from twhirl
I'm still missing the point on Kwipp, it looks like just another Twitter clone, at least Plurk has a different twist on it
- João Almeida
I think friendfeed is best for both microblogging and conversations
- Svartling
is this link, comment baiting, what... do you really WANT to know or do you just want to get a lot of worked up replies? Cause if you REALLY want to know, ping me and I'll tell you.
- John McElhenney
@JMac by suggesting you have THE answer, you kinda missed the point.
- Brian Carter
Twitter and Plurk, i like GUI of Plurk
- SEO Srbija
Everyone is saying FF is dead. :) I sure hope not, but just in case :)
- Roberto Bonini
For Paul, I assume there is an incredible amount of self-satisfaction. Buzz has really brought the FriendFeed experience to a new audience, regardless of its name. Thanks for all your contributions, Paul.
- Louis Gray
I really like Buzz, very cool... glad to see Google release something that integrates a ton of their existing portfolio of products together! Buzz is truly a game changer... wow
- Susan Beebe
Maybe we should all agree to just go use Buzz, let them shut down FriendFeed, and Paul, Bret, et al can concentrate on Facebook... ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It must be bittersweet. Well put, Louis. Well put.
- Akiva
I've had a FriendFeed gadget in my Gmail left column for ages ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
+1 Louis. Gmail, FriendFeed, Facebook.. Amazing job and ideas, Paul!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I was watching the announcement with my brother and I kept saying "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed" ...
- Alejandro
STILL not showing up in mine!!! It does show up on my iPhone. I've been playing with it for the past hour, but really wish I could see in in a real web browser on a real computer!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Jeff same problem here. Very frustrating!
- BRҰANSAҰS
its like Pauls child FF reunion with its elder brother gmail :)
- sirishkumar
Paul, one thing that I am sure to miss on Buzz is, not being able to see all the awesome Googler's and Xoogler's feeds that I see here on Friendfeed. I wish there is someway Buzz remedies this. Really bummed about this. :(
- Space Cowboy
Paul, same feeling here, but now that I see buzz map in iPhone/web app, that's pretty cool stuff.
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, we need something like buzz map for friendfeed ;).
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, Gbuzz privacy settings really suck, even blocking and reporting people as spammers don't work :S
- Orlando Pozo
from iPhone
Paul, did you know Google was working on Buzz when you sold FriendFeed?
- Richard Cunningham
I love how friendfeed, with all of the love and effort that all of us have vested in it, gets to keep on reaching new places, even if it's not *exactly* FF. Nice one.
- Iain Baker
It's a good article -- I just wonder how to connect with Louis Gray and Jesse Stay and Josh Haley in my Buzz. And how to find the next three dudes that I'll love reading.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Chris, I'd like to know that as well. I'm not privileged enough to be in the first batch to get it and try it out :-(
- Jesse Stay
I'm missing all the fun, boo. Maybe I'll have it tomorrow.
- Kol Tregaskes
oh poo. I don't have it yet either. *sulks*
- Que Sarah Sarah
I don't see it in gmail yet... I guess I'm not one of the chosen ones.
- John (bird whisperer)
Looking forward to really trying this out in Gmail. The iPhone web app is pretty dogged at the moment.
- Nathan Chase
Nothing under my inbox yet, keeping myself busy updating my Google profile in readiness.
- Paul Cooper
Messing around with the iPhone web app and I can't do anything. It just spins endlessly.
- Akiva
FriendFeed never dies, yes. These type of services are already became "FF-like" services, so in one way FF will be immortal :) But anything dies if it stops evolving. New technologies and ideas are coming, and FriendFeed should support them, they've spent a lot of time with this technology, they even inspired Google. Actually I was too planning to build something exactly like Buzz for...
more...
- deerstep
please can someone send me an invite thomas.power@ecademy.com
- Thomas Power
Thomas, there are no invites. All Gmail users should be abilitated within the week. In the meantime you should be alble to access Buzz via your Google Profile: google.com/profiles/USERNAME
- Flavio
I did not have Buzz enabled for my GMail, so it did not show up in my Google Profile. However Louis does have it enabled, and I was able to comment on on _his_ profile page. Such is the social media power of LG.
- DGentry
I don't have it on my Gmail either, but I do see it on my Google Profile
- Flavio
Agree on the whole. I always find these categories a little artificial: Really "Forrester-speak". :) I think the recommendations are the most interesting. I'd make a separate post out of that.
- Meryn Stol
You say it yourself: "What’s interesting isn’t this vision for the future, but what it holds in store for brands, " . I'd like these recommendations to be fleshed out with concrete first steps to take. Doesn't have to be more than links to relevant resources.
- Meryn Stol
Meryn The recommendations are fleshed out in the actual reports. Our clients (brands) have access to see them.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Hmm ok... Then I'll need to get the details elsewhere I guess. :)
- Meryn Stol
There will be a give and take between communities and brands. The thing is, Facebook doesn't have a competitive alternative that users could go to. In my report, we suggest that active communities could define specs for products, and bid MULTIPLE companies to build it.
- Jeremiah Owyang
good stuff Jeremiah, enjoyed and some good thought provokers there for the future
- Richard Binhammer
Nice paper but really expensive for young people. $750 means $41 for page.
- Alp
Great information, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web.
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Interesting, but very general and hard to apply. I see companies more as å provide of tools/stage for conversation, aka the gold rush mining vs selling tools
- Anders Dahlberg
Alp, Many of Forrester's clients are large brands who have a subscription. We're still sharing a great deal on this blog, and have given the report to bloggers to cover, so there's value to be had there.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Jeremiah (and the team), a great piece of work and, I imagine, a labour of both love and loathing at times! I have been very interested in this area as I have looked at the shift in skills to deliver social media activity changes from one of basic coding knowledge to much more human, interactive skills.
- Paul Fabretti
Fantastic article! I found it SO intriguing that I've even printed it out!
- J. D. Ebberly
"How Brands Should Prepare" is a great bit of information. Jeremiah, it would be nice (i'd be reading) if you expanded in future blog posts about the "How Brands Should Prepare".
- frank barry
That's likely to be a research report I'm thinking about writing Frank
- Jeremiah Owyang
Probably correct in assuming that most online social networks will neither spawn nor solidify to the point of being considered ‘affinity groups’ with the level of cohesion, unified budgetary authority or organized implementation capability of NGOs, churches, or employee aggregations. Even in the era of social commerce. I hope I’m wrong.
- A Mitchell
Great post, understanding the future's potential is more important than ever on the social web.
- Vlad Hrouda
so, so sad. I like(d) Friendfeed much more than facebook
- Francisco Kemeny
home run for FF.. Facebook will be able to give developers a treasure trove of data one thing that Twitter is dominating on right now. Twitter has a huge developer community but isn't managing that. Here FB is poised to be huge
- John Furrier
So classic that Robert has the first interview about this...Where's Louis? :)
- Anthony Farrior
How do they plan to mix the teenagers with the geeks?
- Jordi Soler
Amani: I am excited! Facebook has 800 employees and 300 million users. This makes both companies much more important.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
here was a comment on SiliconANGLE blog .. very funny .. "Hey, since we've copied almost every innovation you've had, guess you might as well play on the company softball team!"
- John Furrier
Nice strategic move - Interesting to see how this will integrate and looks in 12 months
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
to be honnest I was predicting google offer, then facebook preceed google on this, they are doing well, now rarding FF this is great, the sucess is to know when to pass to something else, the future will make the abtle wave, facebook rude for all geek it is time to code.
- abdellah
You rascal Robert, bet you had wind about FriendFeed and FaceBook merger before today? Yes? Have not used either SM apps. much UNTIL Twitter locked my account. May have been a fortunate mishap as it turns out. Getting to know the beauties of both apps. =)
- SashaKane
do you have a small amount of FriendFeed shares Robert?
- Torsten Eckert
NOOOOOOO. Damnit! I am praying that Facebook doesn't wall up Friendfeed. I was starting to build a site around Friendfeed :(
- beersage
beersage: as Facebook is trying to break their users into a more public world, I doubt that you really have anything to worry about there.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Starting to listen to this now. Hoping you are right, Rob.
- beersage
I hope so to. But regardless, I think that it was in reality necessary for FriendFeed to sell to really put the technology in front of a sufficient number of eyeballs. Facebook is probably the best acquirer that FriendFeed could have. (I would have not felt the same had FF been acquired by Google)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The thing with Friendfeed though is how I can share things outside of a 'wall.' I prominently feature the FF widget on my site. I'm just concerned of losing that capability as I was tinkering with delivering a new site w/ content primarily running through my Friendfeed account. I am to this day unable to do much outside of the wall. I am unable to subscribe to Fan Page updates in Google reader for instance. That is what concerns me about FB acquiring FF given my goals.
- beersage
Robert sounded quite breathless in that interview. Thanks Robert.
- Roberto Bonini
Wow! I'm in shock. I can't wait to hear this interview.
- Micah
from iPhone
This deal was about getting Paul and the team and nothing else
- Stephen Pickering
@stephan, are you serious? FB is buying a concept, a technoloie, a structure, a content and a user list
- abdellah
now how could a team that left google resist under a unique perception system, where the leader vision is upon any thing
- abdellah
Unconvincing Paul Buchheit, the team is more exited of being part of bigger story - logical for them to move on
- patrickdh
They want a way to turn their white pages into a yellow pages and the only guy on Earth who knows how to do it, is Paul
- Stephen Pickering
It was only about the technology and the people. Most people are on also FB anyway.
- James Myatt
My guess is that Paul got a tooooooooon of options and will soon be the No.2 guy at Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Glossing over of that "short term" question by the FF boys. It just seems more about the individuals at FF than it does the users of FF. "Their (Facebook) long term goals" Nice interview, Robert!
- Melanie Reed
Well, it looks as if pass-through of FriendFeed Likes, Comments, etc. to Twitter is down. Will it be for good? Did Twitter do this in response to the acquisition? Or is it just a regular (though curiously timed) hiccup?
- Alex Schleber
this is why your own personal website is always more important than friendfeed, Twitter and all the rest. that's never going anywhere
- Terry O'Fee
from BuddyFeed
I need serious help with FF. For an idiot like me this isn't so intuitive really. Help section is nice but I need someone to hold my hand ..bleeech. Don't get me wrong I am sorry I was reluctant to try FF before
- cheapsuits
I blame Scoble. It's always his fault :-)
- Keith Barrett
but how am I going to tell the world I need a cup of tea???? nooooooo
- Rachel Clarke
Giorgio - I'm seeing some activity through the Twitter API, too (that's what TweetDeck uses, I believe); not a lot, but some
- Robert J Taylor
I thought it was just my connection. ;-) I'm also having problems with Facebook today.
- Timothy Federwitz
yeah, it seems the web interface is down but the api is working..
- Giorgio
I think the social media experts are going to spend the next hour talking about Twitter being down
- Keith Barrett
Scoble's followers where the glue keeping Twitter together! now that he's 'pulled the pin' and released them all, Twitter has fallen down and can't get up.
- MikeAmundsen
I'm so lost this morning without my cup-o-Twitter
- frank barry
They'll comment on it, much like I just did.
- Marlin Forbes
Yiorgas: read a book for a change? I do that anyway, but only about 10/month. need more twitter time to balance it out
- Rachel Clarke
Facebook is copying twitter too closely...even to going down at the same time
- Robert Littlejohn
Does Twitter have what it takes to be a big player? We've been working with their API on a project and every time there is something out of whack. Anyone else have the same issues?
- Chris Nadeau
twitter is really down, I think twitter itself should have a site that tweets when it's down :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
They will use FF to inform their friend that twitter is down
- Didier Girard
They will all sit in their chair and stare at their monitor!
- Gabe Diaz
@Dani, who knows... the might merge or something... explain the strange twitter is pulling fb down 2..
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
Did Scoble bring Twitter and FB down as he unfollowed everyone ? winks -)
- Del_
This is very interesting that it is impacting more than one social network ... can't even speculate what the cause is yet. Not getting much work done today I'm afraid, going to be following these conversations..
- Joe Magennis
I haven't been on twitter for days. I guess I picked the wrong morning to jump back in.
- Jeff Stannard
Robert: The most important question>> How many new sign-ups for FF today?
- K.N. Ajit Narayan
GUILTY ! I have had a FF account for awhile just never used it--
- cheapsuits
What the celebrities like you do. Talk about it on Twitter.
- Tad Chef
This actually made me laugh out loud, because I was thinking the same thing!
- Dan
Could this mean that CNBC was right??? Nooooooooooo!
- travispuk
I was planning to unfollow a bunch of followers due to Twitter's follow limit rule kicking in at the ~#2000 user level. I have to wait with that then... ;)
- Martin Lindeskog
I feel like we are all stranded on a tropical Island together
- Jeff Wiant
was afraid for a moment that out IT blocked all social networks or something horrible like that. Thank god FF came back up quickly. This might have gotten me to use FF more. I often neglect it.
- Ryan Cummins
Wondered why tweetdeck wasn't loading anything. actually got some programming work done. lol
- Justin Long
twits will move, but only until twitter is back online, then there will be a mass exodus. Remember during all of the 2007/2008 fail whales users still flocked back to it regardless.
- travispuk
Twitter, Facebook, now Posterous... 4chan organize an attack or something?
- Sam Harrelson
from IM
took inordinate amount of time to get into ff today as well
- A Zmaj
Hmmm DoS attack...someone wanting a ransom from Twitter?
- Mike Gargano
Guess they'll have to either pick up the phone or do some work :)
- Graham Bunting
Can someone with 94k followers really mock the the celebs and experts devoid of Twitter?
- Augie Ray
Hey, no bogus follow messages in my inbox for a while! ;-)
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Facebook is giving up the ol', "Transport error (#1001) while retrieving data from endpoint `/ajax/inline_comments.php': A network error occurred. Check that you are connected to the internet" message now.
- 3Cinteractive®, L.L.C.
from twhirl
I think this is bigger than Twitter and FB... I think it's some interweb routes or something. I had a VoIP call going with a party local to me and two across the country and I lost the two across the country, but maintained the local party. And others are commenting on other sites showing signs of outages.
- Timothy Federwitz
from Alert Thingy
The real bummer for me is, now I actually have to listen to the radio to get the word of the day!
- Travis Owen
is twitter connected with FB or Friendfeed? I am having page errors with both, Ajax issues with FB intermittently , I am no tech geek so I have no clue whats up and come here to learn
- lisa coultrup
Maybe Ev's interview on the BBC last night didn't go down well with the Iranians!
- Andrew
from iPod
Ev coming onto the BBC last night and saying that they were asked by the US Goverment to keep Twitter up and running during the Iranian protests cannot have gone down well in Tehran!
- Andrew
from iPod
DoS on large portions of the internet. Is this 4Chan... Chinese... N. Korea... durkadurkastan...
- Ryan Cummins
now having trouble getting to Friendfeed
- Justin Long
look, few days ago Clinton back home with two imprisoned american journalists from North Korea and today Korea is attacking twitter? it is revenge)))
- obolonskyi
maybe Robert's great unFollowing crashed the servers... no loss! Go FF
- Jay Shapiro
from BuddyFeed
As I said, I predict a baby-boom in 9 months... wait and see!
- Jordi Soler
SEO Experts can analyze their charts, celebrities and wannabe's can entertain us with video (maybe some cool Twitter Whore like stuff) , and social media experts can quickly become Fail Whale Experts.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
@Lee Provost don't you thing you're going to be a little apocaliptic ? :-)
- Filippo Ronco
Twitter downing has to be a lesson for all of us. if sometimes gmail or even google will be down. what we all are going to do in that situation???
- obolonskyi
@Filippo i've been suprised many times that reality is often more wacked up than the conspiracy theories of geeks :-p
- Lee Provoost
I'm hoping the social media experts go away and do something useful.
- Parvez Halim
@Jordi LOL, considering that there are a vast amount of single male computer geeks out there in the twitter community, baby boom effect might be negligible :-D
- Lee Provoost
what is bad here? here doesnt exist reply button =(
- obolonskyi
@Lee single male computer geeks - LOL))
- obolonskyi
Read post on 100k unfollow - I love how people are commenting and blaming Twitter being down on that! lol
- Helene
AAANND.. it's back. At least for a moment I guess..
- Alex Schleber
AAANND it's GONE! ..Again. At least I managed to send out a quick FriendFeed SOS, as in: "Still think you shouldn't have all of your favorite tweeps in a "backup system" on FriendFeed? Join here: www.friendfeed.com/alexschleber "
- Alex Schleber
Either collapse or back to use their phones in voice only mode, do some shopping, get eye to eye contact ... Blame god, and then. Give a serious try on FF ;p
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
They will still be able to Tweet to themselves - not sure if they will realize it is down until it comes back up.
- Phil Harrison
What will the blackhat SEO experts, the SM spammers, and the social media experts do during a widespread outage? The answer is obvious: While sitting out the crisis they're fine-tuning their methodology. Seriously, your question offends me. There's a gazillion of SEO experts out there who do not abuse social media.
- Sebastian
Sebastian there can't be a gazillion SEO experts! What's 10,000 keywords times 20?? (and that's being generous!)
- Arleen Boyd
Would a social media expert consider it to be a crisis? If they rely so heavily on just one or two tools that it's enough to throw them into a tizzy, their expert status would seem to me to be ... questionable, at best.
- Gord McLeod
Arleen, 10,000 keyword phrases times 20 is a tiny fraction of the search terms that are worth optimizing for. Think of the long tail. Also, consider lots of webmasters and even publishers / site owners / bloggers / Web developers ... SEO experts who are able to optimize their stuff quite successfully but don't sell or publish their expertise. Many of them, and even many SEO consultants, do make sensible use of social media, as plain users.
- Sebastian
Gord, in a social media spammer's book 2 hours of outage, IOW 2 hours w/o sales from sneakily distributed links to questionable sales pitches, can sum up to way more than a good day's beer money. ;) However, "crisis" might be a term too strong for this potential loss.
- Sebastian
You must be dying of laughter now Robert!
- Arleen Boyd
Arleen: yes, reading this is fun. Sebastien SEO types are so easy to wind up. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Gotta love it... @RobCairns says "come to Friend Feed? Not" and then his page shows ONE POST from Twitter in the past 18 hours! And that one talks about how Twitter seems to be slowing down again! (Sorry Rob, but that's just too good to let pass!)
- Mark J
Robert, admit it, you broke Twitter by massively unfollowing people. The DDoS attack reports have just been a ruse to cover up the fact that you were the backbone of Twitter all this time.
- Louis Trapani
Keep running into the wall a few times then find alternate outlets such as ff, linkedIn, etc...
- Kirsten Mitchell
from iPhone
Looks like the devious plan to move everyone to FF is working well. LOL :)
- Geer
Ha! The whole Facebook Twitter slowdown may have been just people clicking on spam (not a DDoS botnet). How funny! Manual DDoS. See Bill Woodcock's theory at CNet, AP, SF Gate, and The Register http://ff.im/6gLmO
- Mitchell Tsai
There you go again implying the only ones that use twitter is SEO experts, the celebrities, the spammers, the bots, and the social media experts - This is definitely SPIN. Perhaps you should join CNN also LOL
- RetiredTeacherD
Ironic, given your status as a celebrity social media expert who constantly spams about bots... :-P
- David Kettler
Now they'll have time to shower and do their laundry!
- momonalona
Grew up in Louisville, KY. In college in downtown Chicago, going into my junior year. Flying to Brooklyn to hang out with my brother.
- Daniel Zarick
from iPhone
Just saw the intro from Ben so I'm a new follower. (c: My wife and I are in Salt Lake, or more specifically Sugar House. Just a couple streets away from the park.
- Tim Costantino
Don't you guys think that this information, altough not essential, should have its place in the bio? Think of geolocalized friendfeed, for instance. Quite not possible yet.
- Zackatoustra
They'll tell you it's their journalism resources and editorial..i still think micro-transactions will be part of the mix..if I could kinda pay as I go -- say up to 20 articles here or there -- that might incent me to eventually bite the bullet and go with a 6 month or 12 month package.
- George Dearing
They can claim that their journalism and editorial resources are superior to all other sites on the net, but informed people will just laugh. They are out-gunned by free sites and sources in every conceivable field and domain one would care to name.
- Sean McBride
Example of the problem: who is the lead tech writer at The New York Times? David Pogue. I can think of 100 people right off the bat who have a better understanding of tech trends than Pogue, and I can read them for free. Why would anyone pay to read Pogue? Ditto for the mediocre op-ed page.
- Sean McBride
You can also purchase stickers and whatnots here: http://www.supportido.com/ (this is the site that has the sticker Derrick is sportin') I had one of the yard signs in my lawn for about a month before it was demolished. I live in such a tolerant fucking neighborhood...grrrr...
- Hookuh Tinypants
np! Every penny counts to help fund getting an amendment on the ballot for this fall! :D Even if you can only afford to get the free one from credo action, it has the potential to inspire others to donate, purchase, or raise the flag and show their own support! :D
- Hookuh Tinypants
I'm downloading porn as I type this, I mean activist rally videos etc
- The Real sofarsoShawn
I'm in favor of marriage among all people...and while we're at it, do we have to limit marriage to two people? Would love to bring back multiple spouse options too.
- Sally - Skyrimmin' It
I support marriage equality in that I would prefer that the law recognize no marriages whatsoever. In the past, I've been accused of tacitly supporting the homophobes by promoting such an unrealistic idea, but I stand by my conviction that getting law out of the entire business is the only morally correct thing to do. (I am no hypocrite BTW; I have never been married and have no plans to get married in the foreseeable future, and wouldn't even if I didn't identify as poly.)
- Karl Knechtel
I do Derrick, it is a shame the discrimination.
- orionstarr
One comment I heard on CNN the other day... "If we let same sex marriages happen and if it's for love, then what is to stop people who have multiple lovers all getting married?" wow the ignorance.
- orionstarr
I'm all for legalising polygamy, too; I don't see why dictating the number of people in a marriage is any less presumptuous than dictating the gender, race, or other attributes of the people involved. Surely it should be their choice, not ours?
- Tristan Seligmann
Tristan: Agreed. As far as the government is concerned, a marriage should be nothing more than a legal partnership, and who people decide to partner with is up to them.
- Roger Benningfield
Lexcycle , the company behind Stanza , a popular eBook reader for the iPhone, just announced that it has been acquired by Amazon. Amazon, of course, also just released Kindle for iPhone , which is now one of the most popular mobile eBook readers.
- papa moussa
Good, the Stanza reader on the iPhone is better than the Kindle app as a reader.
- S. Charles Balazs
"Feedly mini now integrates friendfeed and feedly search results into Google Search, Yahoo, MSN, Wikipedia, Amazon, eBay and more. Here is how it works:"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
"I wanted to read about the news that former online publisher Steven Brill, former Wall Street Journal online exc Gordon Crovitz, and former cable exec Leo Hindery had teamed up to to create a company to enable news companies to huddle behind a wall and charge for their content."
- Brandon Mendelson
from Bookmarklet
The news today that Yahoo (NSDQ: YHOO) is reportedly seeking a buyer for HotJobs will certainly once again fuel worry among the nearly 800 Yahoo Newspaper Consortium members about how dedicated new Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz is to the alliance. Access to HotJobs listings has been—and continues to be—a major reason that newspapers have wanted to join the Yahoo consortium. Yahoo HotJobs has launched co-branded career sites with the majority of the member papers. A Yahoo spokeswoman declined to comment, stating that the company does not comment on rumors or speculation. But at the Newspaper Consortium CEO Summit in Las Vegas earlier this month, members said they were already somewhat concerned about the impact that the departure of Yahoo President Sue Decker, a driving force behind the consortium, would have. Those worries were somewhat offset by the hope that Bartz's hiring would mean that Yahoo would once again be able to—in the words of one attendee—get "back to (the) more mundane business...
New York Observer "Look, I'm a girl from the South! Sometimes I laugh," says Sarah Lacy, discussing her video interview with Tesla CEO Elon Musk. (Lacy thought it was hilarious when Musk called NYT's Randall Stross "a huge douche bag." Stross' editor says Lacy "was too busy giggling to do Journalism 101." )
Content Bridges | paidContent Ken Doctor says one good thing about the Brill/Crovitz/Hindery venture is that it's not another Silicon Valley start-up. "They stand out from the crowd of wannabe-friends-of-the-industry." But that's a minus, too, he notes. "They may be too traditional, too top-heavy and lacking the nimbleness that start-ups offer." || Steve Brill talks to Staci Kramer about Journalism Online. > Blodget: "For several reasons, we're skeptical this will work" > Tate: Why newspapers shouldn't buy what Brill is selling
Thank you all *so* much! You're all so awesome!!!
- David Cook
from fftogo
This is nice to see...a great reminder that no matter how bad things get with the economy, etc., life indeed goes on. :) Congratulations and many blessings!
- Dawn
It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/
- Doug Jones
I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw
- @LarsenTweet
I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC.
- Pete Brown
My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange
- Bwana ☠
I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild
- Jeff Carter
I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though.
- The Griff
mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks.
- Doug Jones
@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :)
- Daniel van Moll
But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;)
- Robert Hafer
@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too).
- Daniel van Moll
Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :)
- mahjongmi
@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy.
- Daniel van Moll
I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that?
- Dan Nimtz
This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too.
- Disney By The Numbers
what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet?
- Daniel van Moll
use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho.
- The Griff
Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF.
- The Griff
The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed.
- Michael K Pate
Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that?
- Jason Carter
Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good.
- Adam Nieto
thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now.
- Aaron
Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool
- Danny Dunn
I think I might just make this my home too!
- Kevin J Hatton
Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium.
- Thomas Hawk
Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too.
- Ken Knight
I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter.
- John E. Bredehoft
Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)?
- directeur
Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days.
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
- Louis Gray
I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S
- Sanne Buurma
I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed.
- Sullivan
I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though.
- The Griff
that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo!
- Susan Beebe
The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter.
- Pedro Fonseca
I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change
- Cristian
I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me.
- Mike Doeff
It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary.
- Peter Warnock
How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services?
- Brian Stoner
Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something?
- Steve Austin
So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn...
- Steve Austin
I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups.
- Bryan Griffith
It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again?
- Stan Scott
That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;)
- Aaron Friedman
My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos.
- Scott Royall
That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting.
- Lasse Johnsen
Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here.
- Lasse Johnsen
I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway?
- Meryn Stol
Are you serious? The best part is the simplicity of threading on tweets, and watching quality content in your network rise to the top.
- Kevin Elliott
I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account.
- Scott Royall
Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm.
- Meryn Stol
You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0!
- Lasse Johnsen
Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today.
- Richard A.
What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities.
- Scott Royall
Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too.
- Robert Scoble
My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to.
- Scott Royall
Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work.
- Robert Scoble
Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook).
- Robert Scoble
Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too.
- Robert Scoble
Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option?
- FFing Enigma
Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted.
- Robert Scoble
It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to.
- Myrna
It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates.
- The Griff
please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change.
- Friendfeed's Francisco
I especially need this for direct messages.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, exactly - it would enable me to tag individuals as a DM after the fact if I realize I need to get their attention. Or, vice-versa - it would enable me to take a DM public after the fact if I need to.
- Jesse Stay
All round this would be good -- I often find myself posting to my feed and then wanting after to post to a Room (or is that Group). The reshare used to clumsily allow this -- maybe when reshare comes back (is it coming back?) it will have expanded functionality?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, I would be satisfied if they let this replace the reshare. It would seem redundant if I could do it here and via a reshare link.
- Jesse Stay
from IM
Yeah - the reshare link doesn't have to come back as long as similar functionality is there.
- Brian Sullivan
Future DMVersation: [Bob]: Hey baby, wanna make out? [Alice] Oooh, yeah! Meet me out back at 5 sharp! {Bob retroactively copies the message to Bob's Feed}...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, subsequently, Bob gets tarnished by the FriendFeed community for being such an idiot to his girlfriend. People should be able to control the DM conversations they initiate. I can take an e-mail and forward it to all my friends, for instance. It's no different.
- Jesse Stay
I think you should let Alice opt in before you publicize the existing conversation is all. I'd like the feature myself, it's just got some privacy hitches to route around.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
What I'd like: If you have an attached Twitter account to FriendFeed, allow for multiple accounts. Then when you get the option to reply to a FF post, you can choose which Twitter account to send a reply from.
- Glenn Batuyong
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