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Shirley Wu
Melanie Swan - Personal genomics #sbcPA
First ever consumer genomics conference was Boston 6/9-6/11/09 - Shirley Wu
big question: how many medically actionable genes? Melanie is putting together a catalog of these - Shirley Wu
Technology is moving extremely fast. - Martin Fenner
Carlson curve = price performance cost drop over time for genomics, analogous to Moore's law but much faster - Shirley Wu
some groups having weekly meetings just to keep up with data storage/collection issues - Shirley Wu
1 full human genome = 8 terabytes (because lots of additional annotation included to help search/analysis) - Shirley Wu
Current methods and infrastructure not equipped to handle analysis and transfer of such large files (best solution currently: FedEx) - Shirley Wu
Metagenome also incredibly important for human health. many many times more non-human cells in body than human - Shirley Wu
Martin Fenner - another layer of complexity: genome in one part of body != other parts. e.g. cancer cells, different tissues, etc - Shirley Wu
how then to identify rogue cells when we are limited to sampling what we can sample? - Shirley Wu
Some next-gen technologies can look for methylation/epigenetic mutations - Shirley Wu
Study of cancer shifting to more systemic approach - not just mutations in a gene, but copy num variations, problems with DNA repair machinery - Shirley Wu
Identify actionable genetic changes: e.g. drug metabolism (CYPD6 and others) - Martin Fenner
Diabetes-related gene SLC3OA4 (I think): zinc transport - Shirley Wu
10 genes identified for type II diabetes in NIH-sponsored GWAS for identifying components of disease - Shirley Wu
Also a couple genes implicated for Alzheimer's related to high-cholesterol development in mid-life - Shirley Wu
Knome does full-genome for $100K (DTC), Illumina is not DTC but offers full genome for $50K with doctor's approval (and access to data not guaranteed!?) - Shirley Wu
How do doctors respond to DTC genetic data? Melanie: they say "i don't know what to do with this", then "that information's not medically actionable" - Shirley Wu
Jen McCabe: less than 40% of doctors have training in genetics - Shirley Wu
Mac: right now, onus on individual to find out about their genetic information, and also to interpret, because doctors don't know how to - Shirley Wu
Melanie: genetics is the biggest topic for continuing medical education for physicians now - Shirley Wu
Martin: big difference between "i want to know my risk for a specific condition e.g. warfarin metabolism" vs "i want to know everything related to my potential genetic risks" - Shirley Wu
consumer genomics potentially huge for empowering people to take charge of their health, see doctors as just one of many "consultants" in their overall health picture, medical establishment is going to be broadsided by the availability of this information - Shirley Wu
Many chronic disease conditions are multigenetic, and it's risk assessment rather than yes/no answers. - Martin Fenner
so very hard to predict if someone will/will not get it. Can only say uncertainty, risk assessment, many people not comfortable with this. But in some cases can do something, like better/earlier screening etc - Shirley Wu
Mac: Myriad genetics patented the genetic test for BRCA1/2 - need to regulate this stuff STAT because it's not cool - Shirley Wu
Discussion of patentability of genes, e.g. BRCA1/2. - Martin Fenner
ACLU case going on regarding BRCA patent - Shirley Wu
Distinction between data and interpretation. Former maybe shouldn't be patented, but latter maybe should be able to be. But in some cases former is very expensive/difficult to collect. - Shirley Wu
Venter tried to get 6700 patents on human genome, Clinton threw it out and said genome is open source, but apparently now all the genes are patented. - Shirley Wu
How to incentivize development of technologies and analysis for genomics, proteomics, transcriptomics, etc without patents? - Shirley Wu
Do we need patents as incentive for technological advances in personal genomics? There are many alternative models. - Martin Fenner
Joseph Jackson: prize funds, microfinancing... - Shirley Wu
Jen: can you create a market without IP? Will be interesting to see how things develop - Shirley Wu
Dawei: multigenic conditions = multi-drug, systems-level approach to treatment. Draws analogy to drug discovery environment, it's changed a lot recently towards open drug discovery, with many compounds that have proved challenging to develop, Eli Lilly e.g. put one out saying "someone figure out how to use this" - Shirley Wu
Martin: shift towards long tail in drug discovery - less emphasis on single blockbusters, more on specific treatments for boutique conditions - Shirley Wu
Back to consumer genomics.... DNA Direct - test single condition. Navigenics ($2500 inc genetic counseling), Decode ($900), 23andMe ($400) - test multiple variations - Shirley Wu
People who have tried all three find that data is very similar between them, but the interpretation, e.g. assessment of risk for health conditions can vary greatly. Includes even the variations that are used to calculate risk. e.g. breast cancer markers - only 1 marker is shared between the three companies (each uses essentially a different set of markers to determine risk) - Shirley Wu
Many of the most medically relevant SNPs not included in the DTC chips, perhaps bc of patent/cost issues - Shirley Wu
Example for drug development based on science rather than market analysis: Recent approval of Ilaris for a rare autoimmune disease: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily... - Martin Fenner
People can open source their genetic data on SNPedia (bout 20 have done it so far) - Shirley Wu
Standard risk assessment multiplies relative risk from all markers used. Not the best way to do it since weights each factor equally, individual risk numbers themselves vary by interpretation, so problem is compounded - Shirley Wu
Social implications of consumer genomics? e.g. Non-paternity issue.. - Shirley Wu
Chronic terminal conditions like Huntington's, patient's right NOT to know - Shirley Wu
What if you get the test, find out you have a condition or are a carrier, your sibling is planning to have kids but didn't get the test, should you tell him/her? - Shirley Wu
Jen is patient 0 for 23andMe's Research Revolution - Shirley Wu
Melanie: "which condition did you sign up for?" Jen: "migraine." Mac: "you should have done testicular cancer!" Jen: "I was going to! I thought about it!" Melanie: "Well we know Jen has a lot more balls than ..." - Shirley Wu
is 23andMe's approach towards consumer-oriented research appropriate? for some, $99 for just a few specific tests and no access to data (just to the report) not worth it.. - Shirley Wu