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Robert Scoble
A geek who grew up in Silicon Valley and loves talking technology at http://scobleizer.com . I'm also the troublemaker @ http://www.building43.com for Rackspace.
There goes a number of years of my life, CompuServe was the Twitter of its time: (The Paper PC: CompuServe Classic: So Long, Old Friend). - http://paperpc.blogspot.com/2009...
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If I remember correctly, I was 71340,356 on CI$ back in the day.
- Mike Shulman
I am too young to know anything about this.
- Mark
it was my first
- Tom Searing
via BuddyFeed
My first as well. Wow.
- Craig Eddy
I learned to type faster & chat... remember the "CB" ?
- Scarletcat
Never had a CompuServ account - I was on GEnie, loved their RoundTables.
- Ranger Craig
As much as I wasn't even aware that Compuserve still 'existed,' I'm somehow sad to hear of its passing. It was my first online experience, I had good friends and strange experiences on the forums. Anyway, there's solace in the joys of the real-time web.
- Brad Kligerman
I gave a talk last week comparing Compuserve's eventual absorption by the browser based Internet to how OpenSim -open-source, open-standard virtual worlds- will inevitably subsume Second Life and other walled gardens.
- Brad Kligerman
I remember it well. EAASY Sabre...
- James
I had an account in 1979 MicroNET/CompuServe... ah, with a Novation 300 Baud Acoustic Coupler...that would 'hiccup' if I played my music too loud (The 1200baud direct connect was awesome) I ran a few forums for various companies and went thru all of the versions of the software until AOL bought them. We didn't even have "CB" at first... we did have a programing area where someone made...
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- RAD Moose
Such a sad passing. I got my internet start in Compuserve. I maintained a CS account all these years too, hehe.
- Barbara
Go read Techcrunch NOW. Oh my god Arrington, you have HUGE FUCKING BALLS.
- Mark
I'm sorry, but why must we read TechCrunch so promptly. And they are not balls, they are testicles.
- Zachary TG
:D
- Mark
Ahh, goodbye from 75106,1624 ...how I still remember that, I'm not sure!
- Mike Cassidy
ahh, goodbye 71260,45! the number I remember to this day.....just like mike I'm not sure either. It's kinda like your SS # or birthday. You'll never forget............
- Alex Marrow
First like most, I didn't even realize Compuserve was still around. I think I was about 12 when I first got on Compuserve. Like many it was my introduction to the Internet. I remember leaving for AOL, and being sort of sad, because Compuserve seemed cooler to me
- Ken Goyette
compuserve _was_ cooler
- tylergillies
I remember compuserve. The was another similar service that started with P. Paragon, Paradise, Parallax, Prometheous, or something. What was that one? Got bought out by Sears?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Prodigy, baby. Prah di gee. They had the Sears catalog, I used a credit card to order some tools using a gopher-style menu and I thought that was pretty cool.
- Brian Hendrickson
It sure was. My first time online was with Compuserve in 1980, right before H&R Block bought them. It was the only service that was available on the Amiga also. I just checked, and they're still in business. I had no idea they were around still.
- Michael Fidler
Goodbye prisoner of war emails 802435.1299@compuserve.com
- randulo
Also just remembered that you could send an email that CIS printed and sent as a letter to anyone in the USA.
- randulo
You dudes probably should do a Moment of Silence!
- ZuDfunck
RIP as it lays to rest with the faint whisper of a 21 dailup tone salute!
- roger byrne
I spent bucketloads of my dad's money playing IoK. GO GAM-26. 72740,114. Good times.
- Michael McKean
Heh, I wonder if the Mac OS X CompuServe application will still run on modern versions of Mac OS X under Rosetta. That might be "fun" in a masochistic way.
- Tyson Key
I remember playing a text based space game on it for hours....and then the phone came and Dad said no more LOL.
- John D Reasor
John, MegaWars III?
- Michael McKean
If I remember correctly, I had GEnie, then CompuServe (72604,2235).
- John E. Bredehoft
That's it yes MegaWars III thanks Michael I could not remember the name.
- John D Reasor
Are all those discussions etc archived anywhere, or is this another bit of the early electronic era that's vanishing?
- Ian Betteridge
I was a sysop for Computer Associates development forums back in the day 72103,1321 if I remember correctly
- Sean Reiser
Yes, we're doing a Tweetup in London tomorrow @JamesProud asked. RSVP here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event...
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All the best events seem to be London Based. Maybe its time all us notherners moved south.
- Paul Rawlings
And put up house prices even more, Paul? :)
- Ian Betteridge
I wish I could let you all see @secretscoble without opening it up. I gotta figure that one out, because the Tweet stream there is magic!
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Happy 4th of July!
- Melissa Gonzales
Hey! Could you send me an invite?
- Chacha102
Nope. I am only inviting people I've met face-to-face and who I want to follow. I'm already following you here on FriendFeed, though, which is even better.
- Robert Scoble
that makes complete sense... so after your jaunt across the ocean head over here to Hawaii :-)
- Crystal Clear
Isn't it a little rude to refer to hidden feeds? As they used to tell us at NSA, true secrets are those shared with no one.
- Jack Carlson
Jack, it is very rude to talk about a secret group, but that's one of the things I'm studying too. Humans are fun to study. SEO types are going crazy over trying to get into this account, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, really, I'm just going to say this just once - repeatedly talking about your "secret feed" is ridiculous. It completely looks like an 11yo trying to grab attention and prove he's a "popular" kid. You admit it's completely rude to talk about hidden feeds, and yet you justify it because "I'm studying humans," which is another arrogant and incredibly rude thing to say (you do not refer to people as subjects, ever). Scoble, for someone with your accomplishments, I expected better character...
- Ben Parr
Just open it up, let us follow @SecretScoble, but refuse to follow us back, whats the big deal?
- Mark
They trade Scoble nudes like baseball cards in there. That's the word on the street.
- Geoff Schultz
I can see your use of the secretscoble account to be very simalar to my use if twitter. I have started to put a cap on the people I follow, rather than blindly following everyone back, about 60% of the people in my twitter stream I have met in person, and about 20% are people I hope to meet. I have found I start missing things important to me if I go over 450. I do respond to every...
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- Luke Kilpatrick
Ben: sorry, every Twitter company is studying Twitter's users. Every single damn one. If that's rude to do, then go postal on all the Twitter developers. Mark: it's a big deal because I want to talk with a very specific audience there, not with everyone. I am studying how that changes my writing, or what I want to do. In my research of how normal people use the Internet they want...
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- Robert Scoble
"..Jack, it is very rude to talk about a secret group..." Robert, are you talking about your secret group or Jack's secret group? Hold it - some black suburbans are pulling up out front.
- James Goldman
Ben: and how will this make me more popular? Or prove to others that I'm popular? You have some weird ideas of how to prove you're popular. James: my secret group. Gotta go, the black suburbans are here. :-)
- Robert Scoble
As a uk tax payer I'm helping to pay for your blogger holiday - can I get in ?
- Adrian
Adrian: no. It's like the Suggested User List. Only less fair.
- Robert Scoble
Hmmmm... I think I was following that account on my old @freddavis account... another hassle with Twitter never giving me my account back... add me as @fucktwitter, or just follow me here ;-)
- Fred Davis
So in other words, you're finally experimenting with "the friends are the filter"... you know, the method that you were absolutely insistent wasn't as good as "follow everyone" a while ago? I'm not going to say "I told you so" but... I told you so :)
- Ian Betteridge
Great friends can be the best filters and can allow you to get a much cleaner stream of what's happening than following everyone - same story with RSS feeds - I think Ian is quite right, but maybe you are onto something different Robert...
- Robin Good
Robin, I think we're actually both right: a lot depends on what you're looking to use your feed for. Robert uses his quite differently to the way that I use it. I don't care about 99.99% of the stuff which comes up enough to need to know about it *right now* - Michael Jackson's death being a classic example. But there are certain things that I do want to know about now, and those tend to be the kinds of things that friends would pass on.
- Ian Betteridge
Robert, you could extend the walled garden concept and have an invite only blog, or paid access (that's one way to find your dedicated fans). I don't think that form of community conflicts with open formats either. Both have strengths and advantages. It behooves us to understand and interact with specific communities within both. I prefer the open type due to the nonexclusivity. For...
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- Mark Essel
via iPhone
Hah @fucktwtr is a great user name (he's the co-founder of Wired Magazine and was kicked off of Twitter for some lame reason).
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I'm surprised they don't have a naughty words filter for user name registrations.
- DGentry
Do they really police anything at all?
- Geoff Schultz
there's a good reason for not banning naughty words like that, what if you name was Geof Uckman, wouldn't you want @geofuckman ?
- Bogdan Costea
I don't doubt that the naughty words filter would block people wanting legitimate names, that always happens. I'm just surprised twitter isn't using one anyway.
- DGentry
The purpose of @secretscoble @k4shif is so I can study how having a private Twitter account changes the experience of using Twitter.
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Intimate conversations are way better..! :)
- Melissa Gonzales
What are the thoughts so far? Would be interesting to understand. I always feel that Twitter is really cool as a comms tool aslong as you use it that way. Its down to the individual.
- Paul Rawlings
Very interesting. Cant wait to hear about your findings!
- Sean Simkins
Sean: so far the signal to noise ratio is much like my lists on FriendFeed. I like FriendFeed better, but there are quite a few people who aren't yet on FriendFeed. The thing is, though, most people aren't on Twitter, either. They don't watch their accounts very closely and/or they don't act on them if they do.
- Robert Scoble
I don't understand why you invited people like Ijustine though? Go look at her friendfeed account, a typical day would be a dozen or so bikini pictures, a video about Apple and a bunch of tweets on some new shoes she is buying?
- Mark
@Mark, yeah exactly, that's why I stopped following her myself
- Stuart Evans
Another interesting experiment would be to allow anyone in who wanted to but to screen people before hand to make sure they weren't spammer, etc. You could create an account of tech-savy people that you could draw news from and do experiments with. Like a twitter that actually knew what they were talking about.
- Sweyn
Mark: because I've met iJustine. She's part of my experiment.
- Robert Scoble
I trust you will be documenting this experiment? Or is it all just going to be in your head? What's your hypothesis? :-)
- Mark
How will you control for extraneous variables ;)
- Mark
How did you ensure your sample was representative and could be generalised to the general population of twitter? Haha, the science-nerd part of me is coming out now.
- Mark
You will never believe who from NASAI am sitting next to for the next 10 hours as we fly to London. Who? Check it here:
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Chief research scientist.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Anyone want to know something about Mars? You have three minutes to ask.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Dr. Tore Straume
- OakleighVermont
Do Martians really talk like Marvin?
- MVB
He says we have to go to the moon first. Moon by 2020. Mars by 2030.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
what evidence is their from Mars that it once had a dense atmosphere?
- Mark
"It is only 10 years!"
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
i want to know the 3 biggest contributions of nasa in the last 10 years. is the US getting a return on its investment?
- lew
Moon as a test-run? There's almost nothing there worth anything
- KyNam Doan
KyNam: the moon will be a way station.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
What does he think of the mars biosphere guys in the arctic. Cooks, or science that Nasa actually pays attention to?
- Jay Shapiro
via iPhone
But his bio doesn't say anything about Mars. Says he worked on the effects of radiation exposure. Japan, not Mars.
- Kirk Biglione
can Mars be terraformed?
- Bob Blunk
Lew - Return on investment? Knowledge!
- KyNam Doan
Bummer can't do live video.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
If we can't colonize the moon, there's no way we'll be able to colonize Mars. And it'll be a lot easier to rescue a failed colony on the moon.
- Victor Ganata
Ask him what's the most interesting thing he can tell us about Mars.
- Bruce Lewis
Can you ask him if we can send Astronauts to Mars before Obama's first term is up, and if current technology will protect the astronauts enough from the radiation
- Charbax
Bob he says that is a big job with many uncertainties. He says some don't want us to do that.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Will magnetic bubbles really be sufficient to protect explorers from radiation?
- Todd Hoff
Charbox: no. Current plan is 2019 for next human mission to moon.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
I believe NASA should send Astrunauts to Mars as soon as possible. Skip the whole Moon thing and cancel ISS and the Shuttle. Priority should be a world collaboration project using Russian heavy lift rockets and going direct to Mars for $30 Billion before Obama's first term is up
- Charbax
Does he use Wolfram Alpha?
- Benjamin Taylor
The argument is that we are much closer to having the technology to go to Mars today then we were to going to the Moon when Kennedy did the speech in 1961 So why not focus the world space efforts on fitting the Humans to Mars mission in the relatively still recent 1988 Heavy lift Russian Energia rocket technology
- Charbax
Will we use nuclear energy on Mars?
- Bob Blunk
Todd: he gave me a long answer but yes but it will need a lot of power.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
I have to go. I will answer rest when I get to London.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Charbax 3 years is an unrealistic timeframe for a safe and prolonged mission to Mars
- KyNam Doan
we need to find ways of creating various things - space borne farms, various stations in between Earth, moon and mars. The more humans we can ship off this planet, the greater the impact we will have upon it and the greater amount of goods we can produce to support this number of us.
- alphaxion
KyNam: ok, i want to know what knowledge that has had a big impact. everything is a trade. i am not doubting it, but i think NASA has a marketing problem in that I cannot tell you the key knowledge we have gained and its impact. should we spend the next $ on space or sea exploration? and that is just one option
- lew
How far ahead is NASA planning? Is anyone thinking about trying to reach any of the exoplanets? Generation ships? A little closer to home, are they sending any probes out to the Kuiper belt to study any of the new dwarf planets? Any missions to the Oort cloud?
- Victor Ganata
Cool, thanks Robert. It seems like high magic to me.
- Todd Hoff
Basic science is never sexy. If we based all our research targets on market value, we may never have figured out how to make fire.
- Victor Ganata
You should definitely try to get a Wimbledon tennis final ticket for Sunday. It'd be really nice to see some live real-time blogging from there. And IBM has TONS of awesome new technologies they are showcasing at Wimbledon, like this http://www.youtube.com/watch... IBM Seer is the best Android application ever made, one of the most impressive mobile phone applications
- Charbax
Victor nobody would invest in fire. Too risky. They would invest in a new rock that was more accurate in flight because the was just an incremental technology leap. Low risk high reward.
- Todd Hoff
Robert, this is excellent thanks. I'm sure he's a bit shocked
- Jay Shapiro
via iPhone
KyNam Doan, Obama can announce the Mission to Mars for within his second term then. And the safety should not be the absolute priority. We are 6 billion people waiting for scientific results and there are thousands of Astronauts who would line up to go on a Mission to Mars even if it was very dangerous.
- Charbax
Charbax, the thing is, if we sent a mission to Mars and it failed, would we even have any hope of attempting a second venture?
- Victor Ganata
There are Astronauts that have been irradiated for years on Mir and on ISS already. So I wonder how much worse the irradiation can be for the Humans to Mars program. As long as the Astronauts can make it through the 6 months journey there, and eventually the 2.5 year journey if they have to come back.
- Charbax
We should send at least 4 teams of 4 Astronauts up to Mars at the same time, to multiply the chances of success.
- Charbax
Charbax, Of course I'm concerned for the lives of the astronauts, but safety refers also to the integrity of the mission itself. 6 months transit time each way + playtime is a lot of time for things to go wrong and blow billions of dollars into space.
- KyNam Doan
Yeah, obviously, I don't want anyone killed, but like KyNam Doan, I'm thinking that a failed mission to the Moon would be far less costly than a failed mission to Mars. And we'll definitely learn things about colonizing planets just by going to the Moon.
- Victor Ganata
The argument of the Mars Direct mission is of course it's advanced technology and we need to spend $30 Billion developing and building it, but the basic technology of building those Humans to Mars lander and return vehicles (that could also generate fuel for the return vehicles mixing Hydrogen with the Methane on Mars), those technologies are not _that_ much different then the technologies we had in the 70ies for Appollo or the technologies we have with Shuttle and the ISS
- Charbax
ask him what he thinks of the Navy's SPAWAR lab finding fast neutrons in their Cold Fusion experiments. :-)
- Karim
Going back to the Moon, unless we want to somehow Mine it for some type of ressource, I think would be a total waste of time! we can get 1000x more science out of going to Mars, and it is _not_ much more expensive. Sending a vehicle to Mars is not much different than the one sent to the Moon, it's just a different trajectory and 6 months instead of 3 days of travel.
- Charbax
Make it a one-way flight. That should cut down on the weight for fuel and increase the amount of equipment they have to create a base on Mars. Land them at the pole so they have a chance of extracting water and oxygen from the atmosphere and with enough supplies to last years on the surface while they try and figure out how we will survive there. As unlikely the success of such a venture would be you will still get people signing up for it and you know that necessity is the mother of invention.
- Sam Pullara
There are astronauts living on ISS for more than 6 months already, they eat and have a fine time up there. So why not simply put them on a trajectory to Mars and that's it.
- Charbax
Yeah, but once they're out of Earth orbit, they won't be getting those shuttle visits to resupply and repair stuff.
- Victor Ganata
Sam Pullara, what you can easilly do is send more empty ships up there. One other ship could have a lot of Hydrogen, it would mix with the Methane on mars to generate enough fuel to launch the Astronauts back to Earth 1.5 years after they land. You can if you want, land another ship close by with extra food and tools. You simply launch several ships at the same time.
- Charbax
I'm all for taking it straight to Mars, was just skeptical about such a short time frame. The one-way trip Sam suggested may be the best bet for "success." Sans family et al + spaceskills, I'd sign up :P
- KyNam Doan
Well the Mars Direct plan is essentially a one way trip, until you walk or drive over to the Earth-return vehicle that was sent before or at the same time. Also, you can send the Astronauts now, and figure out later how to send them back. In the US, there are millions of people that have to stay in small prison cells for years and years. Why can't we have a few volunteer scientists up there for at least 1.5 years and maybe more, this shouldn't take 20 years to find a solution before something is done.
- Charbax
Does NASA only take flight surgeons/aerospace medicine-boarded physicians?
- Victor Ganata
I think NASA should take video-bloggers and broadcast the whole thing live in HD, it'd be the Mars HD channel. Over the years of the project, just ad revenue could finance perhaps as much as half the $30 Billion Humans to Mars project cost.
- Charbax
"He says we have to go to the moon first" - why does this sound like NASA never reached the moon and it was all a hoax. I didn't expect to hear these words I tell ya.
- Prasoon
How about robotic collaboration? Why not send the robots first to build some infrastructure collect, process resources. Once we have a very high probability that there are enough resources to build and return humans the humans land in a plush, and luxurious mars pad? Basically, I am strongly in favor of Human - Mars, but dont see it as the rush, we should have some time to do it in style.
- Robert Higgins
Prasoon: when he says they have to go to the moon first, he means they need to establish a base on the moon as a jumping off point for Mars. So, if your goal is Mars, you gotta go to the moon first.
- Robert Scoble
It was an incredible 10 hours. We tasted wine, talked about philosophy, talked about radiation and how they are building new sensors to sense increases in radiation due to random sun activity so that people in space can seek shelter in time, talked about why humans explore (he thinks we're programmed to explore by evolution), and a bunch of other things.
- Robert Scoble
All you need to explore I think is mobility + curiosity + irrationality. Those drives make for explorers.
- Todd Hoff
my faovorite NASA JPL geek is my Dad http://www.nasa.gov/offices....
- Sonya
Agree that humans are hard-wired to explore, but desire to build a way-station on Mars will build as people understand that we live on an unpredictable and active planet in an active solar system with an active sun in an active galaxy. The sci-fi movies are right; we are always close to disaster of some sort. Thus, the need for shelter elsewhere.
- Brenda Young
put simply, until we have colonies on other planets, our species is already dead. Just a matter of time.
- alphaxion
I gotta admit I love running @secretscoble -- no spammers. No SEO experts. No social media experts. Crispy clean with no crap! :-)
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You're just asking for trouble ;-)
- Holger Eilhard
How can you love/follow the stream from 500 people? Doesn't seem to me to be too different than trying to follow 5000!
- cyberjack
cyberjack: it's way different. Moves much slower. Most people don't publish many Twitters per day, particularly the folks I've added.
- Robert Scoble
Aren't you a social media expert? @jlevine asked. Seems to me that's like asking you if you are expert yet at being human? ;-) I'm not.
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sure you are an expert at being human. It's like saying "I'm perfect, a perfect human being" :)
- Nicholas Orr
via twhirl
Nicholas: I'll be a perfect human being when I'm dead. For now I'm imperfect. And certainly not expert at it. Although that Obama fellow seems to be on the right track.
- Robert Scoble
Social Media Experts aren't they the Snake Oil Salesmen of our time :p
- Darren Stuart
Good point on the dead part - hadn't considered it from the perspective. At the same time I wouldn't be able to tell an expert lion from an ordinary lion, there is only a lion. sure I could say that one kills more game and so is greater than that lion that kills less, surely now I'm quantifiy attributes of a lion. At the end of the day a lion is an expert at being a lion. lion's have x,y,z attributes that I could judge one lion from another
- Nicholas Orr
via twhirl
X Experts are the Snake Oil Salesmen of our time I am leery of anyone willing to dawn the coveted and liberally distributed title of expert.
- Geoff Schultz
Great reply
- D Lets
The more you learn about anything the more you realise how much you still don't know. I believe in people willing to learn and progress, I definitely don't believe in self-proclaimed experts.
- M F
I disagree, it is impossible to disagree with scobles.
- Geoff Schultz
I disagree Geoff.
- Robert Scoble
@pspell because by talking about @secretscoble the people I wanted to have in there see it's really me and will accept my invites. :-)
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You could always verify your account using your voice http://www.voiceboo.com then they would know its you. Was a system we did to show off vooices as it seems to be more of a problem lately of people creating fake accounts. V annoying.
- Paul Rawlings
What if you made it a Twitter verified account?
- Zachary TG
Zachary: I don't know how to make that happen and, anyway, people haven't yet gotten used to that.
- Robert Scoble
Ok, but for future reference if you decide to later, just go to http://twitter.com/help... for information on it. They may let you get one, for you are an important person.
- Zachary TG
Whats the process to get Twitter to verify an account? Do they actively contact people?
- Paul Rawlings
Just visit http://twitter.com/help... to get it verified.
- Zachary TG
@girlygeekdom nope, family isn't here on this trip. Milan isn't easy anymore to travel with. Loves running up and down the aisles!
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Yes @jack_carlson it is very rude to talk about a secret group. But that's one of the things I'm studying too.
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One thing is interesting. I invited 500 people to follow @secretscoble and only 100 have accepted. I am ignoring anyone who asks for invite
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:-( how disappointing .... Can I at least say if I'd been one of the 500 I wouldn't be amongst the 400. I'd have been one of the first 100?
- Crystal Clear
I would have accepted, if I were invited. It has to do with the virus on Twitter. @mashable said that nobody should accept invites.
- Zachary TG
@samdownie Wednesday evening in London might be better. On Wednesday we're going to see Rackspace's UK office.
i was just in london last week, brutally hot for them, hopefully will be cooler while you're there
- mike "glemak" dunn
Just arrived in London. Sitting next to Nasa's Chief Life Scientist just totally made my trip. Great American. Happy Fourth of July! More:
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Then we shared a taxi with Sarah Lacy. She's very cool too and has amazing stories for her new book on global entrepreneurship (won't be out for a year or more).
- Robert Scoble
She just got back from Riwanda and has amazing stories of how that country is bootstrapping itself at an amazing speed.
- Robert Scoble
Enjoy the Big Ben! Always a great place to be in :)
- SurajLuke
But sitting next to Tore Straume (NASA's chief life scientist) meant I had an amazing conversation for hours.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert, have a blast and Happy Fourth!!!! Glad your trip was made so soon into it!!!
- Myrna
cool, same to you and enjoy ur time :-)
- Alex M.
Some people you meet and you realize they are just smart. He's worked at some interesting jobs at Lawrence Livermore labs where he studied radiation effects. His expertise is needed if we want to go to Mars.
- Robert Scoble
The sensors and warning systems he and the teams he's working with are building will let humans work in space safely.
- Robert Scoble
happy july 4th. Have a great time in London. Bet the data from those systems would be well cool to analyse and process.
- Paul Rawlings
Myrna: yeah, I hope I get to interview him someday. His philosophy on why humans explore is interesting. But if you want to know something about radiation he's the guy I'd ask.
- Robert Scoble
It's weird being in England on the Fourth of July. There's a gay pride parade in town too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, just my focus, radiation-you find out for me-too many bad memories :(
- Myrna
yeah would be cool to get his views on exploration. Radiation isnt my bag but realtime systems, mmmm, does it for me every time :)
- Paul Rawlings
How's the weather?
- Myrna
robert your in london thats awesome where abouts?
- Aleem Virani
Paul: turns out that if you are getting bombarded with radiation due to an increase in sun activity knowing that in real time is mighty important!
- Robert Scoble
Oh yeah, the sun on our skin! Bad!
- Myrna
Aleem: we are in the Malmaison hotel. http://www.google.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
The passion of people at NASA can't be overstated. I spent three months at the Goddard Space Flight Center, and it shattered a lot of my preconceived notions about NASA. Image of pristine labs, computers, and guys in white coats? Nope. No money, everything old and run down, (we had to bargain for a 5 year old computer) but everyone super scrappy and *amazingly* passionate. There's a fire in everyone's eyes. Was really an amazing exp.
- mikepk
Myrna: his new sensor will both sense radiation that's bad for your skin as well as the kind that kills your bone marrow. Nasty stuff out in space.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yeah the topic wouldnt interest me that much but the data and having the ability to process it in a timely manor, now thats cool
- Paul Rawlings
It's great to have you back in our fair city Robert, it was such a good meetup last time around and Happy Independence Day! Enjoy your time here
- Anne McCrossan
Paul: the thing is about meeting smart people is that even if you aren't into the topic very much they make it interesting just because of their mastery of the subject. I might not be into basketball, but if I sat next to Shaq I'm sure he'd make it interesting.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yeah recon it would be well cool to talk to someone as smart as that. The experiences must have been amazing that he went thru.
- Paul Rawlings
How do you test something like that? You got to interview him.
- Paul Rawlings
Behind the scenes with @garyvee at one of the best wine stores in the world - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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This is a great inspiring video. I too always thought he's a bit obnoxious, but I can see where he's coming from now.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Was watching it the other day. Great interview.
- Nir Ben Yona
Great video, Gary is a great story teller and ethusiastic
- Kim Landwehr
Looking at Dave Winer's screen shot of his FriendFeed (http://images.scripting.com/archive... ) I notice two things:
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1. That he uses Helvetica theme. Me too. Love it!
- Robert Scoble
2. That he doesn't accept or ignore invites. I know he's not the only one. About 80% of the people I invited to my secret group on Twitter didn't accept my invites.
- Robert Scoble
It's too bad that inviting people into things no longer works. We're getting bombarded with things around the edges of our content so we just ignore it all.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone else finding this?
- Robert Scoble
I have dozens of invites that need to be accepted... thanks for the reminder
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I always accept or ignore invites. Dave's doing friendfeed wrong.
- Alex Scoble
I had to create a spot in my schedule for socialweb invite handling - not that "i'm all that!" but just that with so many sources it starts to get rather busy and I go and review and research each one carefully so it's a rather long process.
- Mike Taylor
I use my FF as I should use it and accept or Ignore requests as soon as they come in. Golden Rule.
- CW™
Can't you only invite people who are subscribed to you? If so, the problem you are having is you are subscribed to the wrong people :)
- Tim Hoeck
Tim: Dave Winer is subscribed to me. It wouldn't help with people like him. My request gets buried.
- Robert Scoble
I used to accept all invitations, but I find people just aren't considering WHO they invite to these groups now, so I no longer pay attention to them!
- Josh Chandler
Robert, I do the same. Fortunately I follow your Tweets so I knew to check my invites for your secret group invites but I wouldn't have noticed them otherwise.
- Jesse Stay
Haha. As soon as I saw the Helvetica theme, I thought of Dave. I use it because it is content centric.
- Steven Rodriguez
I guess I'm weird for liking "Butterfly Corner."
- Darren Landrum
I look at all my invites, but some of them are to rooms that I don't want to subscribe to, yet I'm mildly amused that they exist, so I just let the invites ride as a reminder.
- Laura Norvig
I also use Helvetica, love it.
- Craig [deakaz]
I feel so left out. I've never received and invite. ):
- Steven Rodriguez
Robert, my point was RE: "We're getting bombarded with things around the edges of our content so we just ignore it all".. if you are getting bombarded with invites, rethink your subscriptions.. and it was sort of a joke, because you are screwed :P
- Tim Hoeck
For 2), the problem is that people know how to report spam, but very know how to deal with bacn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki.... Still waiting for smart robots to take care of them :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Tim, I'm not sure about the "then rethink your subs". You too probably have friends who send emails with Comic San or pictures in the signature (etc.); but is it enough to block them?
- Jérôme Flipo
sometimes :)
- Tim Hoeck
Robert: Just a side thought, but have you considered the potential impact of telling 99% of those who follow you on Twitter / FriendFeed that they are not invited into your various groups?
- Jim Connolly
Jim: yes. I'm interested to see what happens.
- Robert Scoble
Me too!
- Jim Connolly
Most people (at least to a limited survey :)) seem to prefer the Helvetica theme. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Diego Barros
I wonder if it's not so much ignoring it as not seeing it due to too many other inbound requests. For instance, with your secret group on Twitter, unless you sent along a separate note, some people might not have seen it due to having notifications turned off and auto-follow on.
- Justin Levy
Helvetica is like eating a taco without hot sauce.
- Todd Hoff
@Jim: +1 for savvy marketing idea and understanding of consumer psychology.
- AJ Kohn
LOL AJ
- Todd Hoff
There's just so much spam going on so people decided not to look at it at all. Similar to followers on Twitter, so many new followers every day but majority of them are spam users, and people see it as unproductive to go through each new follower and decide if they are real or not.
- Marko Saric
Robert: what Tim was saying is that if Dave Winer gets overwhelmed with the number of invitations, then he may be subscribed to too many people
- Mike Chelen
I am in Michigan, I can't afford to ignore invites! Could be the Next Big Thing, ya know?
- ZuDfunck
YouTube Increases File Size Limit To 2GB, Now Allows Direct HD Embeds And Links - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"By the way, I’m uploading HD videos done with my Canon 5D Mark II DSLR at http://www.youtube.com/scoblei... — awesome quality."
- Robert Scoble
Cool! I'll check 'em out!
- Fred Davis
Plenty of comments on that Techcrunch piece point up the fact that uploading a 2GB file would for most people take a very long time. Even on fast ADSL connections upload speeds are dreadfully slow. And then there is the bandwidth to consider if you are capped in any way. We don't all live in South Korea.
- Gilbert Harding
Excellent!
- Fred Davis
I was wrong about #hashtags dying. Here is why:
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Why?
- Rami Taibah
FriendFeed added support in comments and links to realtime search. Wow.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Notice how the two hashtags are handled differently. One goes to Twitter search. The other goes to Friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
So, you're back from your blogging only for a week? Hope so!
- John Wang
John: I can't escape when FriendFeed ships three killer features in one day. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
You've been wrong about a lot of things lately Robert. Hashtags are the best feature of Twitter
- David Jacobs
David: and the worst.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
#squarespace ... oh wait.
- BryanSchuetz
Unrelated to this: Robert you are so amazing. You handle a complicated conversation via IPHONE. XD
- ming yeow
Ming: with Milan on my lap too!
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
@BryanSchuetz - maybe these?
- Tim Tyler
Has Winer commented on hashtags or real time search features today?
- Mark
@mark lets have a look: #winerwatch
- BryanSchuetz
Earlier he tweeted "when I have nothing to say I don't say anything" that might be a reference. I thought he would have been all over these new features.
- Mark
this is a big win for FF #rockandroll
- τorƍue
Dave is traveling in Europe so probable is missing much of today's news.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Dave is back in the good old U S of A
- Mark
Dave is going to get a lot of surprises when he lands ;)
- Jorge "JungleG" Escobar
Robert - which iPhone app do you use for Friend Feed?
- Monte Huebsch
He landed back on American soil earlier today
- Mark
So you're saying hashtags aren't dead now because FriendFeed implemented a new feature? That reasoning is a bit off as they weren't dead for Twitter in the first place IMO.
- Sonny Gill
I am out of my mind livid at the #moonfruit stunt
- James Watters
Monte: I don't use an app.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Why James?
- Mark
Because of the future it portents, tons and tons of paid hash swarms for contests
- James Watters
"portends"
- James Watters
Now you're just making up big words that don't exist.
- Mark
...btw sorry for interupting you at the cisco blog happy hour Robert :)
- James Watters
Sorry Mark, so mad I'm typing faster than normal
- James Watters
My theory is that Dave Winer is watching real time search for his name so maybe this will get him to comment #DaveWiner #DavidWiner #Dave
- Mark
I would love for someone to tell me that I"m just being touchy about paid # blizzards
- James Watters
James: I will delete and block spam
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Even CNN has gotten into *liberal* use of hashtags :) http://friendfeed.com/cnnbrk...
- Andrew Smith
Hashtags may not be dead but they have lost a lot of their usefulness
- BCK
With search and track, why does one need hashtags? They'll find the reference no matter if it has a #
- PXLated
PXLated: to make it easy to link to a search. For instance #PXLated links to a search for your name.
- Robert Scoble
Don't understand the need for a hashtag to do that. I can search Scoble and get the same result. all the hashtag does is make it clickable.
- Karoli
Karoli: it also adds explicit metadata to make this easier to search for in the future. For instance #wackyweirdsearch15 will now pull this item up.
- Robert Scoble
I have known hash tags are alive and well all along. How? I frequent #hashtags HQ at http://hashtags.org
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
I'd rather just have the ability to tag my messages with normal tags like you do on a blog so we're not polluting our messages
- Jesse Stay
@JesseStay - why can't we have both?
- Tim Tyler
PXLated: It picked up this item.
- Robert Scoble
Tim, that's fine, but I want the ability to not pollute my content regardless.
- Jesse Stay
Yes, it lists this thread but not my actual comments. Shouldn't it bring up any FF comment I've made? Or am I misunderstanding?
- PXLated
And here I thought that Robert had given up on this cliche. :(
- Alex Scoble
cool we love #hashtags
- rob friedman
#Hashtags are not dead, but despite this enough people try to kill them by using them wrong, see this rant: http://friendfeed.com/infinit...
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
Great way to tag threads you like. Slip that #hashtag into your comment.
- Hutch Carpenter
also a great way to alienate newbies, Hutch.
- Laura Norvig
@Monte I tried MotherFeed but it ended up being less convinient than the web site, which is, to date, the best FF app I saw
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
James: the beauty of friendfeed is that searches can be limited to your friends, so bots that post spam will be excluded
- Mike Chelen
Jesse: information encoded with a hashtag is part of the material produced by the author, and of similar stature and value to the rest of the content
- Mike Chelen
I don't know if hashtags will alienate newbies Laura. Do they alienate newbies on Twitter?
- Hutch Carpenter
Yes. I introduce social media to n00bs and they are intimidated by RT @ and #. I mean, it only takes a few minutes to teach people, but initially they are turned off by all the symbols and feel lost.
- Laura Norvig
Twitter's only for those really comitted to Twittaddiction.
- Murli Nagasundaram
Remember when you wanted to include information about what you were talking about so you'd put that information in what you were talking about by actually talking about it? hash tags are just another namespace where you need to duplicate your content to front load the service's search capability so that it works right (assuming it doesn't work right to begin with, or doesn't have enough...
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- Andy Bakun
Okay. I hope I can still use hastags here for twitter posts via Friendfeed. Not that a link is sent to Twitter for the FF-Search. I need hastags for postings I make to appear as Twiiter-hastags in Twitter... EDIT: Everything is good :) No link sent to Twitter...pfeeew :)
- Ryo
I love that on Google you can ask it what time it is in some part of the world (like London) and it answers. More here:
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Here's the result for "what time is it in London?" http://www.google.com/search... What other questions can you ask Google and it will answer?
- Robert Scoble
What time is it? - http://www.google.com/search...
- Matt
Bing also supports that these days; http://www.bing.com/search...
- Menno te Koppele
Menno: I know, I checked, but I like the formatting Google does much better.
- Robert Scoble
Welcome to my home town Robert!
- Jim Connolly
Maths questions :)
- Simon Wicks
via iPhone
I thought the question of "Who Am I", which Steve Rubel highlighted was pretty awesome (http://www.steverubel.com/google-...)
- Josh Chandler
I usually use it for conversion between US measurements and metric/grams and all that. Also good for temp celsius to fahrenheit. My wife brought a couple of American Cookbooks over so I need to translate sometimes.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
What is 10 kgs in Lbs? http://www.google.ca/search...
- Kamath (ಮೆತ್ತ ಭವನ)
Oh yeah simple calculation questions are good also
- Rasmus Lauridsen
and other such conversions...
- Kamath (ಮೆತ್ತ ಭವನ)
Thats pretty cool, I always knew you could ask Google math questions
- David Hintze
I like the currency and other conversion ( http://www.google.com/search... )
- Mihai Secasiu
How many tablespoons in one cup? (16 in case your wondering). Great for halving recipes (or doubling them).
- Joe Luft
Mathematics, like: how much is 2+2? http://www.google.co.il/search...
- Nir Ben Yona
and of course the big question: http://www.google.com/search...
- Mihai Secasiu
Conversions
- Paul Rawlings
via iPhone
Yes Nir... I'm a bit simple .-P
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Robert: I agree with you on formatting, but hey at least Bing has it these days. That's a step in the right direction
- Menno te Koppele
You can ask it the answer to life, the universe, and everything: http://www.google.com/search...
- Jesse Stay
42! Look, I beat Google!
- Jim Connolly
You can ask about the date of birth, like: how old is Michael Jordan? http://www.google.co.il/search...
- Nir Ben Yona
I constantly use google for math and conversions
- Neil Bernhart
Height of people, http://www.google.com/#hl=en... and Adriana Lima's bust size http://www.google.com/#hl=en...
- Burcu Dogan
Seems not to work for smaller towns (e.g. Fort Totten, ND) - bing doesn't either, but wolframalpha answers.
- Matthew McCowan
Bruce :-) Google not first mistake its just 84cm http://www.jurgita.com/models-... have a great wknd
- Johni Fisher
Robert, Bing does this as well. http://cliq.cc/IqIdk
- Darren
Have used this feature many times and Google has never let me down.
- ashish damania
exchange rates? "how much is 1 eur in usd"
- aurelian
No need to be so verbose. "time in london" and "10 usd in sek" suffices.
- Oskar Lissheim-Boethius
They still can't answer "Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?" alas
- Justin DeMerchant
How the SF Giants saved a million bucks with telecommunications upgrades - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
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This is why our standard of living keeps getting better: Innovation
- Craig Shipp
Extra points to those who can name all the tech bloggers in the room. I can't even do that but I know Wired Online and Technologizer were there.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for this, always like to see what the big boys are doing to save $$$. Was that John Combs in the background? I used to work for him awhile back.
- Jericho
I'm starting a trip to London today. - http://www.dopplr.com/travell...
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I'll be there from July 3rd until July 12th. See more in my Dopplr profile.
- Robert Scoble
well have a good time in the South, you should visit the North sometime
- Darren Christie
You coming to The Europas?
- Calvin Robinson
Will you be visiting Newport on this trip?
- Robert Gale
Enjoy and have a safe one.
- Michael Fidler
See you Sunday! :)
- Simon Wicks
via iPhone
The weather has been nice recently but today it's overcast and looks like it could rain
- Joe Dawson
Yes but still very warm. According to BBC the sun is back tomorrow
- Asgeir
Robert, if you need a hotel in London have a look at http://hotelmap.com/LondonH... - definately a 2010 web product!
- James
Recommend you try some of the other places in the UK. Leeds is a great centre for technology.
- alphaxion
See you on Sunday!
- 77Agency
Enjoy the trip Robert! I hear London is awesome! My wife spent 3 months there and swears that we're going to move there some day ;)
- Justin Levy
Enjoy London, Robert! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Are you going to Open Tech? http://www.ukuug.org/events...
- Yant
How the SF Giants saved a million dollars - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I don't miss managing those old POTs PBX systems at all.
- Jesse Stay
They have saved a million bucks but they've wasted millions on poor player signings.
- beersage
Most interesting was how all the different clubs share detailed expense information. Hey, I did some work for Shoretel. Very cool.
- Todd Hoff
"first flip cam ever in here" - after seeing all that old school tech, I believe it!
- Peter Kim
LOL beersage
- Todd Hoff
Peter: I thought that was funny too. Just cause I was at AT&T park I took a phone call right in the middle of the video too. Over my AT&T run iPhone. I should have edited that out, but I'm too lazy.
- Robert Scoble
Schlough was a little thin on the details - other than being much smaller, how is this system saving them so much money? Did he say they are now using VOIP phones throughout the stadium? I would be interested in hearing how this new systems works.
- Chris Murphy
Your phones communicate digitally over an ethernet cable. It can work over your data network. So your phone boots! The sound quality is excellent which is why people pick it over other technologies. With their GUI it can integrate IM, route phone calls to follow you, dial others through the gui, hold conferences, listen to voice mail, and do lots of other cool things.
- Todd Hoff
Good one beersage. Still waiting for that ROI on Barry Zito!
- Mike Doeff
Chris: fewer inbound phone lines. Equipment uses less power. System easier to maintain (far fewer employee time to add a new line). Less proprietary wiring, etc.
- Robert Scoble
More details on Google: http://www.google.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
You have to wonder what AT&T thinks of this (the Giants play in AT&T Park).
- Mike Doeff
Mike: he hints at it: AT&T was happy to see the Giants modernize and get rid of PacBell equipment. And anyway the Giants have one of the first iPhone apps for any park.
- Robert Scoble
I just talked with Steve Gillmor and he said "track is back and you can quote me on that."
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he has an inside 'track' on this one. Steve was talking about this at the Building43 launch. now the ? is: for how long?
- nicefishfilms
Off topic, but speaking of Steve Gillmor, has there ever been any official announcement why the Gillmor Gang was taken off the air so to speak. No more podcasts available for download.
- Joel Marcey
It is on Twitter too - I don't know why he doesn't accept that
- Jesse Stay
http://staynalive.com/article... - I can do the exact same things on Twitter now with track that I used to, albeit in beta
- Jesse Stay
Joel: Leo Laporte said in the preshow of some podcast (cant remember which one) that Steve didn't have time for it anymore
- George Deane
To bad was a good podcast. Now tell me what "track" is all about
- courtney benson
Oh. Ok. Thanks George. I thought for a while they might have been doing the podcast live w/o archiving it for podcast. I guess now it is gone all together. As Courtney said "Too bad".
- Joel Marcey
the Gillmor Gang is on 'hiatus' and the shows that were not released in podcast form (since the end of april) were archived but may not see the light of day - that is totally up to Steve ... some fans have 'bootlegged' the show but i'm pretty sure that there are some missing before people realized they had to record it or it wouldn't be out (in a timely fashion)
- Chris Heath
Jesse: I can't use the Twitter feature. So it is not track.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
isn't this better than twitter TRACK because it TRACK's not only tweets but any posts from any service which is textifiable ? yes i made that word up
- Mark
You could start a rap with that line :)
- Roberto Bonini
Also unless you can filter by usinggroups of people It isn't track according to Gillmor.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
"track" is whatever anyone wants to make of the term - no one has a real definition. I hate the term. There are 15 different definitions for track. How about "real-time search"? Makes so much more sense than "track".
- Jesse Stay
I've heard about 5 different definitions of "track" from Gillmor. I'm not sure he knows what it is either. The "track" I knew was XMPP real-time feed based on keyword, along with SMS alerts based on keyword. What Twitter recently released is that, minus SMS.
- Jesse Stay
I know Steve will have plenty to say on this at the conference. Hope its USTREAMED.
- Mark
Otherwise Twitter, who invented the term, doesn't know what track is either because they named their recently released feature "track"
- Jesse Stay
So the idea is you "TRACK" a keyword and you get notified when someone uses a tweet with the word in it?
- Mark
Mark, that's what Twitter just released, yes - FriendFeed's doesn't do that yet
- Jesse Stay
Where is this new feature twitter just released?
- Brian Roy
another bonus for friendfeed is that the 'track' or 'realtime search' picks up words in the comments as well as the entries themselves (and i've noticed that expanded urls are also searchable after the tld)
- Chris Heath
So If i type Chris Heath in a comment it will appear here: http://friendfeed.com/search... ?????
- Mark
Brian, see my link above to my post on it a week or so ago - it's about a month old, but no one seems to want to give Twitter credit for it
- Jesse Stay
Test Chris Heath Test Test Test
- Mark
Holy Crap!
- Mark
dude... i think you just blew your mind
- Chris Heath
also cool i think is my parenthetical comment above about the expanding urls... let me explain: so you post a bit.ly or whatever link to twitter, when it comes over here to friendfeed (as we all know) it will get expanded and you will see the actual url, but the link still goes to the bit.ly or whatever url - the text of the expanded url though is searchable! i found this out when doing...
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- Chris Heath
PayPal Denies $450 of Unauthorized Charges - http://chris.pirillo.com/2008...
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PayPal are the single worst payment processor the world has ever seen, and they have deliberate policies of corporate thievery which totally screw their customers. It took me three years to cancel my account with them, and that was only possible after the registered credit card expired. $450 is nothing. Some have been taken for tens of thousands.
- John Samuelson
Please see http://www.paypalsucks.com/ for many examples.
- John Samuelson
OK, so Apple messed up their security, they charged the wrong man, and shipped the increadibly valuable giftcards for content licensing. However, PayPal has to pay the bill for Apple's mess. And this would cost PayPal some real USD 450, while Appla would have lost the some licensing income it was not entitled to in the first place. This is not to say that PayPal should not be a LOT more prepared to protect their customers. However, Apple is much more to blame. Hey Apple, give that man his money back!
- Andrey Andreev
via twhirl
According to PayPal accepting their ToS (Terms of Service) in effect means you waive your rights to credit card consumer protection laws if you want to use their service, and that you may not issue a chargeback for unauthorized use of your credit card and PayPal account, or if you do, then they have the right to limit your account. Is this legal? We don't know. But it's how Paypal operates. See my credit card waiver page for more information.
- John Samuelson
I have a 2 posts about PayPal difficulties that I experienced lately and I get overwhelmed with negative reactions from Dutch PayPal users. Accounts are frosen and the users can't do a thing about and little reaction from Paypal.
- Erno Hannink
Yeah, reading this it's really hard to see how PayPal is the villain. If they were responsible for the $450, it would give "preauthorized" Web site owners little incentive to beef up their security or audit their systems. After all, PayPal would be on the hook for any problems that arose. I'd think differently if PayPal's system had been compromised, resulting in a loss.
- Marshall
This post seems off target to me. Apple is the company that currently has $450 of his money. Why would PayPal be responsible for paying him back?
- Dan T
That seems like the correct course of action on Paypal's part, to have Apple reverse the charge and not Paypal. If Apple is the cause of the issue (admittedly) then they should have no problem reversing it. Unfortunately, instead of authorizing each transaction, he used a pre-approval option that allows Apple to directly take out the money without his authorization, otherwise it would have likely been resolved much sooner and more easily than this.
- cmiper
PayPal sucks. Heard HORROR stories from my business friends. A lot of top people at PayPal have gone on to great business positions, but they've always sacrificed customer service (from what I heard). (1) I leave as little money as possible in my PayPal accounts (2) Do NOT connect PayPal to any bank accounts with serious money in them. Open a new bank account just for PayPal. PayPal has been known to suck $5-10K back from a bank account. They are not a bank, and not subject to the usual regs!
- Mitchell Tsai
A real CC/Bank gives you an EXTRA layer of protection & added clout when negotiating with a seller. Not only will I take you to court, my bank will reverse the charge. You forfeit that with PayPal (something to consider with all these business ideas for internet money-handling) and with Debit Cards. I've had a bad credit-reversal argument with Washington Mutual concerning my Debit Card (only $99, but it's the principle). Now I use disposable $25 debit cards for internet nonsense (& hotel reservations).
- Mitchell Tsai
Maybe if enough people raise hell about this, they will snap out of their pipedream and realize that a potential exodus of millions of customers and dollars would not produce a net gain, and that their petty fretting over pittances could cost them a real fortune.
- david beckwith
Err, but what other choice do I have?
- Yuvi
That is why I keep my PayPal account "Un-Verified", use a card with VISA on it for member protection and only when I go into a selling streak do I verify to an bank account specifically for that use, with minimum funds in it. Say $20. PayPal can do things to me as they wish. When they have, I called VISA, told them what happened and they handled the situation within a few hours as matter of fact.
- Greer Trice
There is a great saying I once heard "You may agree to waive anything you please, but that does not change the rule of law". The quote was from the California Department of Labor, in reference to System Administrators being subject to overtime as opposed to what their employment agreements state. So PayPal can say what they wish, fraud is fraud.
- Greer Trice
I once had a huge problem with eBay and it was semi-combined with Paypal. Paypal came to bat, for me, and offered to pay eBay, on their own, to resolve the situation. Ironic considering they really are one-in-the-same, but my eBay seller account needed immediate action and only Paypal had a customer service telephone option. I've decided to limit my connections with them.. to limit my own personal liability.. because of what I've read.. for many years, now.
- Heidi Jeffers Thibodeau
pls i need your help about credit card.. pls i need credit card to register in. in one site
- kola
I am walking around San Francisco checking out FriendFeed's Real Time Search, added today. Badass! My addiction continues...damn it!
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Do you think this will be a feature that attracts any NEW users though?
- Malcolm Bastien
Dont care, its awesome :p
- Mark
Yes. This is a killer feature
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
Would be sweet if Tweetdeck had a little window which you could set up the friendfeed search to constantly update. So every time someone mentioned Scoble etc on Friendfeed it pops up in that window in real time.
- Mark
Robert, are you using it through the browser or is there an iPhone app for FriendFeed that I can't seem to find?
- Joe Pruitt
http://friendfeed.com/search... You can see yourselves typing in this thread if you use the word Scoble
- Mark
Yeah, it's badass. It really is. :-)
- Chris Baskind
Yup. Very excited.
- Johnny Schroepfer
Gotta persuade Loic to give us a little window to set up Friendfeed realtime search windows for our favourite tracking words in Seesmic DT
- Mark
Malcolm: Well, now it matters a bit less how many you follow, as new users who set up a search would get a real time specific feed from the whole of friendfeed if they so choose. Instant gratification in a way I guess.
- Thomas Bøhm
Robert Scoble: this is AWESOME: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Mark
Playing with it now.
- Andrew
killer!
- metalerik
Is that where Fiend's post? I think I will stick with FriendFeed :-)
- Mick Gill
Just want a tiny little window now in my twitter client so i can TRACK all the posts which contain the word "dave winer" for example.
- Mark
True or false: "If FriendFeed was a woman... I'd hit it!"
- Bas
wondering when any of this is going to appear in the API. Over in the FriendFeed API room the same question was asked and this is the response: "We're actively working on getting it to you Paul, thanks for your patience. - Casey Muller" -- so more waiting.
- Mike Taylor
agree this is a killer feature. FriendFeed can now be used during events; the superior search function (compared to Twitter search: there I can only find tweets 15 days back+ not my whole history) will convert more twitter users IMO
- Jeroen De Miranda
Give up, Scobleizer! You'll never escape! Never!
- Bruce Lewis
PC Easy: support of an evetn, just added search for a web 2.0 event of the Municipality of Amsterdam to the blog http://www.amsterdam20.nl - next to a twitter fountain. As you can see, the twitter fountain only displays tweets; whereas in the FriendFeed search you can see and even replay the 12seconds.tv video clip! superior technolofy, plain and simple and very convincing now even for first time web 2.0 users!
- Jeroen De Miranda
How is this one-week vacation from FriendFeed going?
- Louis Gray
Not well. Things like this keep pulling me back in.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
it's an awesome feature.
- Bill Kinney
Friendfeed has added one more distinct feature.
- ashish damania
Interesting timing on FF's part, verrrrrry interesting... Resistance is futile, Scoble.
- metalerik
Looks like they rushed it out in time for the conference at TC. They say on their blog they have more features to add in real time search but they are still in the oven right now.
- Mark
I wonder will the friendfeed apps will get the same live search functionality?
- ashish damania
How do I watch a real-time search for anything about Google or Android or Google Wave or ARM holdings or white spaces. I'd like to only see results liked by at least 1 other FriendFeed user, let me rate reliabillity of other friendfeed users, I want similar entries to be somehow grouped (could be something like TechMeme) so we can automatically combine all our discussions grouped entries somehow at one place (perhaps under the most relevant of the entries)
- Charbax
Charbax: here's a search for "Google" or "Android" or "Google Wave" or "ARM holdings" with one like or more. You can't yet group entries. I hope FriendFeed really works on the duplication problem I'm seeing. http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
Best yet. Just great stuff.
- Charlie Anzman
oh ! yeah ! this really rooocks !! real time search ! awesome !!
- Rocky
And the "Pop Out" option is a really cool feature
- Peter du Toit
Yes, the phrase "Pop It Out" is cool.
- Louis Gray
Robert, I was able to use this feature and build a local FriendFeed on Steroids: http://friendfeed.com/lph...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
There goes blogging...... again.
- Roberto Bonini
I'm very excited about this feature and it adds more value for addicts like me
- Michael_techie
Re: Behind the scenes with @garyvee at one of the best wine stores in the world - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
"http://tubemogul.com -- you upload once and it redistributes your video to a number of different video services."
- Robert Scoble
Behind the scenes with @garyvee at one of the best wine stores in the world - http://www.facebook.com/note...
Justin Levy, Rick Turoczy, James Goldman and 4 other people liked this
the best video both of you ever did! wow! I've been following @garyvee for about a couple of years now, and I have a renewed appreciation for both of you guys! Truly awesome video. I'm pumped .. and am gonna #crushit :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Thanks! I love GaryVee and what he does and I think this came out.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
I can't believe I'm watching this whole thing at 2:30 in the morning. But it got really good right around the halfway mark.
- Erick Schonfeld
Best quote by Gary Vaynerchuk about what would he do if he wasn't garyvee, "I would beat Gary VaynerChuk's face in."
- Erick Schonfeld
Seems like everyone has already taken off for the weekend. Me? All nighter to prepare for London.
Kol Tregaskes, Alex Scoble, Keven and 3 other people liked this
Did you revoke your week without real-time?
- DGentry
skillz to pay the billz my friend ;)
- Jason Kintzler
I'm getting ready for Boston next week
- Jesse Stay
im writing all night...thinking of starting a novel and readying first posts for my new blog
- Zachary Adam Cohen
Hey he almost made it 5 days, lets give Robert some credit :) He did take on some good size real time waves this week, real time as in if you don't paddle your heart out they eat you :)
- Luke Kilpatrick
I'm still here, working late towards our product release date on July 15.
- Joey Gibson
Luke: it wasn't lost on me that while we were surfing two people lost their lives in the waves not too far away.
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
I lost both, my ID and Debit check card! What more can I ask for?
- Keven
I'm still hard at work too. Experimenting with parts of our software that I haven't used very often, and finding all kinds of mud puddles to clean up. Fun in a sadistic sort of geeky way.
- Craig Eddy
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