I've been noticing more and more FriendFeed items showing up in Google (and higher than Twitter, generally). How about you? - Robert Scoble

but the question is how fast does google capture data form timeline? - Veetrag

Veetrag: in minutes, is my experience. No longer than a day, for sure. - Robert Scoble

@Robert I noticed that too, but I believe its because we write much more than 140 characters. So Google wouldn't have tweaked algorithm for it. - Veetrag

By the way, Murphy Goode really screwed up a good thing. Here's Jim Louderback, CEO of Revision3 on the item: http://louderback.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

That fact that a FF post can be #1 for an arbitrary set of multiple keywords doesn't prove the general fact. - Gary

Veetrag: I think Google is watching the real time engines closer and closer every day. - Robert Scoble

Gary: no, but I can find dozens of examples like this. - Robert Scoble

Do you realize how many clicks it took me to get to that tweet? - Rochelle

Rochelle: what Tweet? - Robert Scoble

Robert: Thanks for the info. Do you have any idea how soon does that information becomes obselete? Does Google have infinite storage/indexing capacity. - Veetrag

Veetrag: I believe so, yes! Heheh. - Robert Scoble

Google has posts of mine from years ago still in its index. - Robert Scoble

Robert: One more question, does Google give more importance to information from people with more followers? If so, they have to tweak algorithm for every service. - Veetrag

I agree Robert. I have even seen friendfeed post's higher than the actual blog post there about. - TheHenry

Veetrag: I don't think so. But they DO give more importance to items that have more inbound links. So I bet getting retweeted helps. - Robert Scoble

True, blog posts can remain forever. but these sites are generating content at much faster rate. And we have many more services. - Veetrag

TheHenry: me too. Veetrag: Twitter generates 10Gigs of new data per day. That's nothing for Google to swallow. Google has many hundreds of thousands of computers and maybe more than a million. Not a problem at all. - Robert Scoble

My FriendFeed posts on Google seem to climb and fall; it's not obvious why. It's also strange that I get Google Alerts on my alert topics when I tweet on it, but not from Friendfeed. - Keith Barrett

Robert and Veetrag: From my experience Google's index crawl sites [like Friendfeed] rapidly. And probably more than twitter because quite a bit of content it generated as opposed to a 140 char. tweet. - wiredgnome from iPod

Dont you think, posts with more 'likes' should get higher priority too? Or they are already doing it. - Veetrag

However the sites appear in Google's index within a couple hours. - wiredgnome from iPod

Dozens of examples doesn't mean much when there are billions of keyword combination. If FF has the only use of a particular set of keywords, then it will rank by default. - Gary

I noticed this a while back. My last big Flickr upload was a Merced roller derby bout. My FF post is number 2 after Flickr. http://www.google.com/search... - Russellreno

Cool, I guess. Puts 1 google to rule them all back in an agile search play. - Robert Higgins

Gary: OK, fine, how would you like to demonstrate which site will get you Google juice? Personally it all depends on what gets linked to. Or did you forget my "brrreeeport test" of Google? http://www.google.com/search... where I made up a fake word and got people to link to see what would happen? - Robert Scoble

I have said earlier,my friendfeed post appeared within 48 hours in Google search. This was two months ago. - Ashish

Veetrag: I bet more likes get more Google Juice. Why? More pages are linking to the original item. - Robert Scoble

I'm not saying FF has zero juice. I'm sure it is a value greater than zero, but I because anything can be posted by anyone, it would be hard for Google to give it much authority. If it did FF would instantly become a spam magnet. If a trend was started on FF and was later picked up by blogs, I'm sure the FF post wouldn't rank as high as the blogs. - Gary

I don't know: On this SM doesn't matter to me. I only support local : http://www.oliverwinery.com/index... - Melanie Reed

Robert, I clicked on your link above which led me to Google search results. I clicked on the first result which was to a post of your with a link to Leo's FF. I clicked on that link to get to Leo's FF post, which was a link to Digg. I clicked on that and went to Digg which was a link to martinsargent's Twitter account. - Rochelle

Rochelle: even better, it's a full employment act for content producers because you need to click six times to get what should take one. Fair point! :-) - Robert Scoble

Gary: you're wrong. Google knows which FriendFeeder has more inbound links. My pagerank here is seven. What's yours? - Robert Scoble

Gary: you are wrong, twice. I have seen quite a few places where FriendFeed gets higher ranked than the blog. It makes sense, because the FriendFeed item is getting linked to by lots of people and the blog isn't (I often link here, because the conversation is worth linking to). - Robert Scoble

I've noticed. My Friendfeed page shows up in a search for my name at about position 3 or 4 whereas for years the first instance of my actual self would show up around page 4. I'm not a content producer nor a particularly active person, so I figured it was FF picking up steam. - Rob H.

Gary: finally, FriendFeed is going to prove to be very resistant to spam for a whole lot of reasons, most of which I won't go into here because I don't want spammers to figure out ways around the resistance. But for one, if you block someone here it is a COMPLETE block, not half assed like over on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

Robert what exactly were the terms of the contest? Did it expressly say something to the effect that interviews were guaranteed by public vote, influenced by public vote or just that they asked the public to vote? - Melanie Reed

Melanie: they asked the public to vote and then, apparently, didn't care what the public said. - Robert Scoble

Robert thanks for clarifying. Well, they're off the hook legally. But they simply didn't understand the implied "rules" of SM, which, let's face it, can be intimidating for the uninitiated. I have no background on how "initiated" the MG SM team were but it is possible, indeed, appears plausible that they didn't even expect that much feedback. Which only goes to show that perhaps many in business (besides Murphy-Goode) haven't quite got the "hang" of the SM "golf swing". A stiff lesson to learn for MG, a strident warning for future enterprise campaigns. - Melanie Reed

Melanie: yeah, you really need to read Jim Louderback (Revision 3's CEO) take on it: http://louderback.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

Robert: Yes. This was about "hearing the message" in the public dialogue that all good advertising campaigns should understand. It just happens faster on the Internet. And it recalls parallels in the "Palace vs. the Death of Princess Diana and the Public Reaction" dilemma. If I was going to teach a SM class to Enterprise SM teams, I would start there with elements they could relate to and then progress to the Murphy-Goode Affair. ;) - Melanie Reed

FriendFeed ranks very well for me and often appears higher than my blog; however, since my blog is relatively new and fast-growing, those results are changing. My blog posts appear here in FriendFeed in near real-time, then get tweeted out with FF URLs re-directing back to my blog, so I am leveraging FriendFeed's Google juice to promote my blog's ranking and it is working! FriendFeed is one of my top inbound link referrers to my blog - Yay! :) - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

I think Friendfeed posts with more like will definetly get more Google juice. Friendfeed often has a higher page rank than blogs because Friendfeed links back and all the conversation is generally here than at the blog. - wiredgnome from iPod

Not just for Google. also Bing, Yahoo, and some up-and-coming search engines - TransContext Steve