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Arrington on today's Gillmor Gang said no one is using friendfeed. I answered back "then explain why my feed is moving so fast." :-)

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He'd have to ACTUALLY USE it to know that. - Alex Scoble

Arrington is an ass. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

I'm not sure if Scoble's feed is the measure of the average FF user's feed speed.... - Jef

dude, you have like a million followers - Don Bonaddio

Arrington would have to actually use it first - LPH™ and his dog P™

Then why write about the new beta and break the embargo? - Kevin Whalen

What? I'm noone :) - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Scoble I don't think you should be the measuring stick. - WiseYoda (aka Patrick)

I think FriendFeed is beginning to become the place to go for the real-time web and I'm sure it's the point of the redesign. They have mastered (or are in the process of mastering) how this feed stuff works. Realtime event monitoring is on FriendFeed and no where else at the moment. - Brandon Titus

probably not the answer you're looking for...but it's because of all the content that is aggregated here (it posts whether or not people are using it) - just playing devils advocate :) - Jennifer Van Grove

http://spy.techcrunch.com maybe the reason why he said that? - Gavin

Is it bad that I agree with my brother? Friendfeed is pretty active today. Actually, I haven't noticed a slowdown in activity of late at all other than the usual weekend lull. - Alex Scoble

Robert: You held your own. Defended us all valiantly ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

What are you all doing here? You are supposed to be on Twitter! - Robert Scoble

it is because Twitter is down. :D - Rom Feria

Scoble, relatively speaking nobody is using Friendfeed, and it's not taking off. I think Silicon Alley Insider called it fairly. http://www.businessinsider.com/friendf... - Robert Seidman

Yep, Robert Seidman is right. But don't count Friendfeed out yet. Especially with the troubles Twitter has with each plateau of growth. - Dion Hinchcliffe

I think he was speaking relative to other services. I do think this will be a huge boost to Friendfeed. - Paul L. McCord Jr.

Gavin - I tried "arringtonsucks" in that field. - Larry Hudson

Let's show Arrington what nobody looks like http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg... - Alex Scoble

it's moving so fast because you follow _everyone_ and everyone has 1 or more feeds that goes into FriendFeed. - rob friedman

rob, my feed is updated quickly too and I'm not a top user. Robert is right on this one and Arrington is just speaking about something he doesn't use. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Rob: bullshit. I am standing in front of my hotel and this post has gotten 22 comments and tons of likes. There are a LOT of people using friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

In just a couple of minutes... - Robert Scoble

Robert: I know there is a lot, im just stating the obvious. there is a lot of people, and FriendFeed decided to real-time it up a bit. - rob friedman

I'm seeing a *ton* more activity today on my FF posts than usual. I also find it's much easier to use FriendFeed instead of TweetDeck to do my Twitter posts now - the character count is nice. - Jesse Stay

LOL, Robert I'm not sure Rob is right, but at this point your picture and your friendfeed picture and comment are well aligned. they are both distortions of reality. - Robert Seidman

Once FriendFeed hits critical mass then the onslaught will begin, and I will be thankful of the Filtering once I figure it out. :) - rob friedman

We should comment more on Mike's stuff. He'll rush sooner or later. - Jérôme Flipo

I assume he was meaning "no one" in comparison to the amount of activity he thinks twitter and facebook has. It's like how people say that no one plays EQ2 anymore even though its still like 500k. That's supposedly no one compared to the 11 million + WoW has. But yeah, he's just an ass in general. - Tony, Paradox of FF

pourmecoffee, that sounds suspiciously like a complaint that FF's user base skews towards higher IQs... ;-) - Karim

I have no idea what pourmecoffee is talking about. I talk about politics and see political posts all day long on friendfeed. It's why I'm so engaged by it. Twitter? You couldn't have a proper political discussion on Twitter if you even wanted to. - Alex Scoble

Alex, The conversation happens easier because there isn't any concept of threading in Twitter except when the engine catches an @reply. Imagine how easy it will be to start discussions about anything using the Jabber chat client. FriendFeed could start automatically generating MUC (multi-user chat) rooms, and give a jabber:// link - rob friedman

coffee, you are definitely following the wrong people here if you think that. - Alex Scoble

SPAM - Mike Nayyar

OK now you are confusing fun with media and political people with politics. There's plenty of fun and politics going on in friendfeed with REAL people as opposed to talking heads. As it should be. We don't need talking heads here when we can speak for ourselves. - Alex Scoble

You could also argue, depending on the sphere you survey, that nobody uses Twitter, Google Reader, Techmeme, TechCrunch or many other sites. In our bubble, we use all those. FriendFeed is being used, and it is getting more active. - Louis Gray

Is that Robert Seidman...on FriendFeed? Welcome back man! - Hutch Carpenter

Robert, you were awesome on GG today...thanks for making the arguments so well. - Karoli

Alex Scoble is now discriminating against the body-less... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

BTW in less than 20 minutes we've collected over 40 names here http://beta.friendfeed.com/itblogg... that's a lot of nobodies that are using friendfeed. - Alex Scoble

We don't need "stars" that just come on here and don't participate. We need real people having real conversations, which is exactly what we are getting. - Alex Scoble

Exactly Alex. Actual interaction. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Crowdsourced interviews really need upvotes. It would help if we could permalink and upvote individual comments in this and other FF threads. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Good one, Robert. :) - Meryn Stol

lol Arrington sucks big time - Keith Dsouza

+1 Daniel. ;) - Meryn Stol

All I want to say is, try having this kind of deep discussion on twitter. Just about an impossible task. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

It's moving so fast because we're all obsessed nerds who constantly need to keep in touch AT LIGHT SPEED - Mike Nayyar

Um, why youyellin' at me? I thought we were just talking. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

Why I pass on the Gilmor Gang - Robert Hafer

so where is the show file? is Gilmor editing the shit out of it---immediate gratification .... just upload the show, Steve? Arrington, the clueless pundit... - ChaoSurfer

yes, the speed of the auto scrolling really gives u a sense of how things are moving.. - erwinhuang

btw, bob, any plan on mobile version? or is it already out? iphone, symbian? - erwinhuang

the "web" appears to have a lot of "content" but if you eliminate all the spam ... is there really that much out there? it's not fair to say "no one is using friendfeed" but "there's so very little value in friendfeed" - it's a virtual water cooler, great for entertainment value and time suck, but that just makes it MySpace with a Web 2.0 UI. - Dossy Shiobara

That's why I don't listen to those people. I don' care about what they say or think. - Richard A.

I love Arrington's cynism because it makes people think? I understand where he is coming from because he is one type of FF user. I really don't think anyone gets FF yet. Bloggers kinda get it because they consume lots of information but they do not fully get it ... I feel like Scoble might have an idea, but as an early adopter he gets distracted defending shiny new things..someday i might spare the time to enlighten Arrington and the cynics. FF is going to change everything. - Tweet Feeds

I've noticed people are using it more recently (the BETA appears to have increased activity too) - Nicholas James

But Robert, that's because you're subscribing to *everyone* on FriendFeed :) - Ian Betteridge

Ian: that is provably NOT true. :-) - Robert Scoble

You should try subscribing to everyone, just to see how fast the feed could really move! :) - Ian Betteridge

Arrington is completely wrong that are not too many using, but is growing. Look at me! Friend Feed arrives at brazil! I'm brazilian and I love Friendfeed and I'm showing to everyone that I know. - Rafael from twhirl

unfortunately, friendfeed - even though its technology is absolutely top - won't even scratch facebook or make friends of mine using it; can't upload photos, tag people in there.. can't have a detailed profile of yourself.. that's what most people are in for! if facebook only copied half of the stuff friendfeed offers, it would be nearly untouchable in the middle term.. i know, friendfeed doesn't want to compete with facebook, but given the fact its technology is state-of-the-art: why not try? - Johannan Edelman

Johannan Edelman, because simply their goal aren't the same - abdellah

FB first concern is users grow, when FF it is content - abdellah

ok abdellah, so what? ok, you don't want to become facebook, but that doesn't prevent you from taking over/copying some of facebooks stuff.. why not pulling up a true profile page like on facebook, for starters? - Johannan Edelman

cause johannan the approach diverge, in FB users profile means users typing data in a form in FF users profile is users stream. - abdellah

let take robert stream, robert service set, it define in a precise manner who robert is. it is even better then a short bio paragraph. - abdellah

abdellah: thing is: people would share much more content on FB, but their technology sucks; FF has the technology, so why not trying to attack FB, right now when they seriously failed with the new layout? - Johannan Edelman

yes, that's true for you and me, coz we know scoble (who doesn't in this tech-affine circle?) - Johannan Edelman

FB havn't failed my friend, they are opening their content to others. and without even taking celebrity example like robert, a look to my service give you as many profile as servie each service is attached to a profile. - abdellah

thing is: i use FB most of the time and i really struggle with it when i see the possibilities FF offers. for me, a mixture of FB and FF would be perfect! :) - Johannan Edelman

johannan hope they will do more :) - abdellah

I do like the new Twitter-like design - Kyle Austin

i know that FF has different goals than FB. but goals can change! FF right now is used mostly by tech-savvy people. their tech rocks, the possibilities of FF combined with FB's userbase would totally dominate! why not try to copy some of FB's features? would it hurt? nobody would be forced to use them (a full profile page for instance). FB right now seems vulnerable, and who knows if there might be a better chance of attacking the giant than right now! - Johannan Edelman

Alex +1 - andy brudtkuhl

The superior Platform wins in the end. Example: Facebook vs. MySpace. - Garin Kilpatrick

Agree with Garin, like IP over other early protocols in first ages. - Guy Vander Heyden

no one? 240.000 people is not really no one... - Jorg Jansen

garin: what do you mean by "superior"? FF has technological superiority when it comes up to feeds and the way you are able to interact with other users real-time; but FB offers a much larger variety of services. and despite the different flaws, i think it's superior right now. btw: technological superiority never was a guarantee for success.. think of betamax vs. vhs, windows vs. apple at the beginning, and there are many many more.. - Johannan Edelman

So roughly a week later, has Arrington eaten his humble pie yet? I think this week especially he's been proven wrong. - George Hall (Australia)