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Robert Scoble
Why did Google announce Chrome OS this week? Well, of course, Microsoft has a big announcement coming on Monday (I'm embargoed).
It'll be interesting to discuss both announcements too, and what they mean for each other. - Robert Scoble
I hope to see something good come out of this. Are they saying free or paid for the Chrome OS? - Anthony Timberlake
*raises eyebrow* Interesting. I applaud more competition - Mo Kargas
I'm intrigued! - Daynah
Diego, no, it's one of Microsoft's primary businesses. Did you know Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses? - Robert Scoble
Related to Microsoft's Gazelle browser? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13... - Kiran Patchigolla
Microsoft isn't doing too bad lately. - Eric Florenzano
cool, im thinking its a special version of windows 7 for netbooks? - sean percival
Anthony: I'm sure it will be free. - Robert Scoble
BingOS? - imabonehead
imabonehead: no. :-) Microsoft isn't that disruptive. - Robert Scoble
And that means Google Is doing well once again, doesn't it? - Markingegno - Donato from Android
The Chrome OS will be for netbooks and such for now. And is Microsoft announcing the Free One Care? - Dylan Richardson
Bingo yes :) - Kiran Patchigolla
*chuckles at imabonehead* - Daynah
LOL BingOS! The startup sound will be Ballmer saying "BING!" like he did at AllThingsD conference. - Paul Salzman
Bing-OS was his name-o! - Daynah
Bingos <--- that was his name-o - Micah
*high fives Daynah* - Micah
An open source OS - how much stable will it be?? - Palak Mathur
Question is Robert, if you are not allowed to say, how on earth did Google find out? - Technogran
Micah, we're on the same google brain wave tonight. :) - Daynah
Ride the wave :D - Micah
Sandra: it might just be coincidence. Or maybe they have great spies. Depends on your view of the world, huh? - Robert Scoble
Microsoft is open-sourcing their code too??? Yeah, didn't think so. :) - Josh Fraser
Josh: part of the Microsoft announcement on Monday runs on Google Chrome (and Firefox for that matter). - Robert Scoble
Not all "open-sourcing" is created equal. - Micah
Maybe Microsoft is making it's secret announcement this week cause they knew Google was about to announce? - Alan W Silberberg
Thats real funny Josh .. Its like pulling teeth to get them to give a discount on anything. - Dylan Richardson
Alan: maybe! It all depends on how you look at the world, doesn't it? - Robert Scoble
Nice Cant Wait! - James Hunter
It just seems to coincidental. Like President of Iran making big speech during MJ's funeral! - Alan W Silberberg
Scoble the only MS announcement they could make that would blow me away is Windows 7 Early release. - Dylan Richardson
Dylan: Microsoft has a few other impressive things up its sleeve. - Robert Scoble
So the question is now that Google's making an OS, will Eric Schmidt resign from Apple's Board? - Paul Salzman
It's all just ones and zeros. ;) - Victor Panlilio
So, do we give Calacanis credit for calling a Google OS back in 2006? http://calacanis.com/2006... - Mike Doeff
Sanat: insightful. Paul: Google makes a smart phone OS, and he hasn't resigned, so why would he now? - Robert Scoble
Zune HD. Looks nice for the first time ever I'm thinking about it. - Dylan Richardson
Google is talking about it's goals at this point. Isn't Intel trying a netbook OS too that boots fast? It'll be interesting to see which OS features win out here with different implementations. Is instant on to the browser the key or will some other feature shine? Fun times ahead, though really need to see things in action. - Loren Heiny from iPhone
Dylan: sorry, that is dead on arrival. They should have combined Zune with a cell phone. - Robert Scoble
I got a screen photo here: http://ff.im/4WoVE, I don't have much comments yet due 2 that I am using it now, its not much of an announcement. - polou/indigo_bow
Robert, Zune with a phone hmmm??? I hope ur rite as u said ur embargoed! - polou/indigo_bow
Gazelle? - carrotmadman6
MS does not have the Balls to take on the iPhone. - Dylan Richardson
Wait for Monday. Nothing else to say. - Frédéric Sidler from iPhone
Robert, because they claim to excuse him from the part of the meetings related to iPhone...computer OS is arguably the biggest segment of Apple. I guess he can stick around for the hardware discussions. I know my argument is elementary, but maybe walking a line here? - Paul Salzman
What was the last big hit new MS product? - James Watters
But if they did that would be cool competition is always better for the consumer. - Dylan Richardson
James: Xbox? Dynamics? Bing? - Robert Scoble
Apple is not really what I will be looking at Android is the big boy here - polou/indigo_bow
MS Office on the browser would also explain why GMail and Google Apps are finally out of Beta today too. - Ron Schott
OH OH Project Natal is coming out!! lol j/k - Dylan Richardson
Robert: Thanks, wasn't hating, just looking for organic momentum from products. Bungie was def a godsend to 360. Bing proved Seth Godin wrong which I greatly enjoyed. - James Watters
@Robert Scoble: So I looked up Microsoft's last quater's financial report, Microsoft does indeed have a $14 billion business :) - Long Zheng
Bing is nice I have to say. Here is how I use it .. If I want to Buy or shop a price I use Bing. If I need info its Google. - Dylan Richardson
MS better fix the %$^#%@^ Gumblar hole first, it's apparently worse than Conficker -- http://rixstep.com/2... - Victor Panlilio
MS also has ~6+ B in R&D, is it efficient? - James Watters
Not new news, but it could be the launch of Silverlight 3.0? Offline mode and all the other nice bits, runs on Chrome and Firefox. - travispuk from iPhone
Oh, really? When I get something on embargo...I don't write about getting it under embargo. Come on, Robert. You're better than that. Or at least I hope you are. - Andrew Feinberg
I agree @travis, but google make it like a news - polou/indigo_bow
James: it doesn't matter, a company like Microsoft needs a product pipeline to remain relevant. Research lets Microsoft remain relevant and on Monday you'll see a bit of how it does that. - Robert Scoble
OK. Google Chrome OS. Netbook makers say Linux based Netbooks have high return rates. How will people react to a Netbook that only runs a browser? Linux has remained niche. - Dileepa Prabhakar
Andrew: sometimes you have to take a risk. This is one of those times. - Robert Scoble
Robert: I will look forward to it. We ALL win when great software comes to the market. Almost nothing better in the world. - James Watters
14 billion, maybe Office that runs on Silverlight, therefore in the browser properly. - travispuk from iPhone
Do you all think GoogleOS will just boot up right into the browser? Browser will be in firmware? - Paul Salzman
BTW, Robert, will Microsoft finally dump IE and develop a Webkit based browser? (Forget Gazelle. Yet another stupid Microsoft research project that will never successfully make it mainstream.) - Dileepa Prabhakar
Paul: no highly unlikely. - James Watters
Dileepa: I don't know the answer to that. But the demos on Monday (I have a bunch of video coming) were shown to me in Firefox. So maybe that's our answer right there. - Robert Scoble
James: so you think it will sit on top of Linux or something? Or just be a new flavor of Linux? - Paul Salzman
Linux flavor of Chrome, thus far not arrived yet - polou/indigo_bow
Paul: I'd look at Android as a precursor and say yes its going to use a google refined linux kernel, and I believe the post even says a windowing system. I'll check TC again to be sure brb. - James Watters
Paul: I bet there will be some customization of Linux underneath Google's Chrome OS. I'm intrigued and can't wait to see what they will do with it. - Robert Scoble
Google says the software architecture will basically be the current Chrome browser running inside “a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.” (quoting TC) - James Watters
I can almost bet that its web based Microsoft Office with some nifty real-time collaboration features. - sameer
Sameer - I agree. Explains cross-browser compatability - Daniel Lazarides from iPhone
"a new windowing system" leaves the door open for a greater level of abstraction away from the kernel for sure. Probably still with some access to files, devices, etc on the local hardware though which a browser alone would be a clumsy solution too. - James Watters
If Microsoft's BIG announcements are Web based Office (already demo'ed and announced), Windows Azure RTW (nothing unexpected) or Windows 7 RTM (already announced to be announced!), there is nothing that's going to surprise people on Monday then. - Dileepa Prabhakar
I think Wave might be integrated into the OS. - Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Windows7i -- the Cloud OS from MS - Paul Salzman
Jaya: Like as a built in extension to the windowing system? Like IE and explorer? - James Watters
@Alex Will they be able to match Open Source strategies as followed by Ubuntu,etc?? - Palak Mathur
just another rehashed disaster of windows in another marketing created packing - Zac Bowling
Dileepa - They haven't talked much about collaboration using Office web. There was one OneNote demo that showed some realtime synchronization. I'm thinking more Wave-like realtime features. - sameer
Zac: I'm going to believe Robert, but lets give him hell if this is marketing glossy! :) - James Watters
Paul Salzman: Windows 7i with WGA! -- works only when accessed through IE when running on a WGA validated copy of Windows. - Dileepa Prabhakar
Dileepa: that's it, we've called it! ;) - Paul Salzman
Robert you managed to convert a complete google night into a complete MS night :) - Kiran Patchigolla
James: it's been a while since I've felt compelled to do more than five videos at a Microsoft press conference. See ya on Monday. - Robert Scoble
sameer: That will be mimicking existing Google Docs feature. Google Wave is at a completely different level and I am not sure if Microsoft is up to doing something like that. - Dileepa Prabhakar
Till Monday it is, I'm thinking I'll even blog it. - James Watters
Wave might act as the collaboration platform on the OS. But that leads to another question. Will the OS be tied to Google accounts for login? - Jayasimhan Masilamani
Dileepa: Let's see, I think there's potential for implementation of realtime collaboration across the web based and desktop offerings of Office that could be of big mainstream impact. It's got to be something related to Office, Robert talks about the "$14 billion business" - The only other Microsoft business I know of that's that big is Windows. - sameer
sameer: I said that Microsoft has 14 billion dollar businesses. Plural, not singular, but I also said it was one of Microsoft's primary businesses. That narrows it down a bit, yes. - Robert Scoble
My guess is a MS hardware that will shake the netbook market!! - Krishnan Subramanian
So that's a Win7 RTM announcement, combined with Web Office. If Web Office will be free to use, the combination of W7 Starter with Web Office will be a huge notebook hit. - Kirill Petrovsky
If ChromeOS was meant to counter MS, then the logical MS announcement would be some kind of OS project, like maybe a combination of Microsoft Singularity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ) combined with Silverlight for NetBooks or mobiles. - Ray Cromwell
MS Web Office for sure: Scoble said it runs on Chrome and Firefox and it's a multi billion business. Actually, MS Office accounted for 18-19B $ in 2008. - Jérôme
I fear that if the tech side of their release if good (but whatever the pricing), Google Apps isn't ready for the fight. - Jérôme
Microsoft announces the cloud OS? I'm still not sure about a Google OS though. - Burcu Dogan
Web Office in Silverlight, together with a mobile version that means we get Silverlight on WinMo and maybe even IPhone would be a win for me - Ian Blackburn
I cannot wait...:-) but I DO have a clue... - Eric Denekamp
Lots of people suggesting Office-in-browser but if that were it why would Robert be under embargo given they've already announced it and demo'd it? I'm not saying it ISN'T Office-in-browser but if it is then something doesn't add up! - Jamie
Good point Jamie - the two primary business in MS are Office and Windows (in terms of revenue anyway), so perhaps this is more to do with a Windows OS in the cloud? How would that look? - Ian Blackburn
Initially, Google VS Live, Then Chrome Vs IE & Google Vs Bing, finally its Windows VS Chrome OS - Michael_techie
Ummm... are they announcing an online version of MS Office like Google Docs? - prolificdyslexic
that's why I do not subscribe to Scoble - too many comments on his articles, too much noise - camino-frances
I don't see any noise in here. Interesting conversation! - Robert Scoble
The MS guy at Portland Cloud Camp said Azure was going to be released very, very <wink, wink> soon. #cloudcampPDX - Gary Walter (gwalter)
All google apps platform out of beta yesterday, now Chrome Os.. Is definitely the answer to Seven + Silverlight/OfficeOnLine Monday ;) - CantorJF from iPhone
@gwalter You’re maybe right. The front end would be MS Gazelle, and the back end would be Azure. - Bram Pitoyo
Office Web Apps release to public beta is well overdue - first promised for end of 2008. If this is embargoed then it must involve something new. ScottGu hinted that Silverlight 4 was already in development. SL3 is released this Friday. So maybe SL4 will be released,in beta with a beta of Office Web Apps showing some SL4 features (like more AIR like features).. - Joe Wood
It seems like "too late" and illogical for Microsoft to come-up with another vendor-lock-in type innovation and expect positive results. Microsoft is not run by daredevils nor wimps. The announcement Robert talking about might be about a web based productivity application suite, which is standards compliant and offers a familiar interface and workflow for people, thus easily adoptable and steal competitors' (G, Y!, Zoho, 37S, Adobe?, etc.) user base. - Berk D. Demir
The thing thats got me shitting my pants over all this is Games. I need Windows to play all the latest Direct X 10 and 11 games. Linux is hopeless in that regard. - Mark
Audience in here is mainly composed of technically inclined, early adopters. We feel comfortable with online apps and mainly ready to ditch (or already ditched) many offline applications in favor of our new toys. OTOH, that's a huge paradigm shift for the other majority of less technically inclined and incomparably bigger masses. Microsoft still have the power to lead masses, create apps and get the advantage of positive transfer (in terms of HCI) for user engagement. Just don't underestimated the number of users who won't migrate to Gmail just because it doesn't look like and work like notorious but familiar Outlook. - Berk D. Demir
Interesting discussion! I vote for MS Office online ! - Krishnamoorthy
I commented in istartedsomething on Long Zheng theories with this list. so why not here after having read all of Scoble responses?: Safe Guesses (not crazy): 1.- Office Ensemble (Office Web Apps + Office Live Update) and a Office 2010 public CTP (the most likely one) 2.-Microsoft Online Services gets full release along with a full release of Windows Azure while one of the new Data Centers is “brought online” and even new services get demoed. (likely) 3.-Silverlight 3 gets demoed in Xbox 360, Windows Mobile, symbian and the iphone (would be cool) 4.-Windows Live Suite Wave 4 gets demoed and a ctp (weird) 5.-Windows 7 RTM is confirmed, Windows 7 strategy specified and Windows 7 gets a special netbook edition treat. (weird but who knows?) Wild guesses (crazy or odd): 1.- Social Desktop gets the green light and will be included in windows 7 after all 2.- Live Mesh 1.0 3.-Next Gen Sharepoint 4.-Announcement of a IE9 CTP that integrates unexpected stuff from Gazelle project 5.-Windows Mobile 7 gets fully demoed and specified ok, the wild guesses is more what i would like to be demoed.. So what is it Robert. i am Cold, Warm, Hot in any of the guesses? - Avatar X from FriendFoo
i crammed a lot of guesses that may not have to do with the announcement so maybe robert could say warm or hot to the whole list without having to specify. :P - Avatar X
I vaguely recollect listening to the GIllmor Gang in June/July 2008 where Robert said he'd just visited Microsoft Research and seen "an amazing new browser". If memory serves me correctly it was said in the context of mobile devices but who knows.....this may be another contender for Monday's announcement! - Jamie
Anything related to Midori ? http://technologizer.com/2008... - Krishnamoorthy
Microsoft has already made their counter-move to a Google OS. It's called Windows Azure. It'll serve apps to the Google OS with ease and MS will make money in the process. Yeah, I know today the money be nowhere near what the Windows OS makes, but while the Google OS is gaining traction as a desktop OS, Azure will be gaining traction as an app hosting platform for that very same Google OS and others. - Jeff Weber
More spam news will come in. Azure, Mirot ha ha ha - Michael_techie
just another social network (where the IE users might hang out) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Another huge innovation like renaming Bing? - Burcu Dogan
Google is initially going after netbooks via a new OpenSource OS. If Microsoft's Next Big Thing is Azure then they are betting that a locked-in cloud-based OS will trump Google's move. It's gonna be VEHLEY INTELESTING to see this play out. - J.D. Deutschendorf
launching online enabled MS Office, free and beta - camino-frances
I really hope it's not anything Silverlight related, some one is on crack if they think the end game is everything running in a plugin in a browser. - Scott Kahler
Tease. Tease. :) - Charlie Anzman
Robert, they'd better have more than a few "14 billion dollar" businesses. Their market cap is 200 billion for heaven's sake. - Stephen Pickering
sorry, have to ask. did it make you cry? :) - dannysullivan
does this mean google=novell? - Eran Even-Kesef
Made the news onto electricpig your announcement! - Alan (Giraffes)
Dr. Schmidt HAS to resign from the Apple board... too many conflicts of interest (iPhone v Android, Chrome OS v OS X, Chrome v Safari). What could he possibly be adding that can't be obtained through someone else? - Gerald Buckley
pricing of Azure will definitily be one of the announcements; not the BIG one. Office online perhaps... - Jeroen De Miranda
Very interesting indeed. Chrome OS sounds like a great companion to Windows on a netbook+ device, for those times when you do need instant web/email. Looking forward to your videos! - Will Johnson
Since the event on monday is WPC I'm guessing that Steve Balmer will present MS view on future of the Enterprise and showing off some of what Ray Ozzie has been working on. Coming full circle with Azure (computing infrastructure), Mesh (powering collaboration), SilverLight (future of runtime enviroments on all platforms) and of course all of this software+services has to be powered by Windows Enterprise Servers on the back end. - Daniel Chow
Also the new Office is the first application to launch under the above stack. Scoble, did I get anywhere close to any of the embargoed announcements? :) - Daniel Chow
What do you think? How long will the Apple-Google Friendship last? http://friendfeed.com/applero... - Hans Kainz
They are going to announce the release of IE 9 - the even worse with net standards addition. - Bobby Griffith
Windows 7 Home/Business/Ultimate Netbook Edition. Each with different capabilities and things disabled for no reason other than to confuse users and make more money. - Scott Koon
heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :) - Allen Stern
Go for it, Allen! Inquiring minds want to know! - Rudy Amid
Well if you do know, you owe it to your readers to report the news, - Mark
Mark: sorry, I signed an embargo. That's the way these things go and I'm not willing to burn this relationship, sorry. You'll know on Monday. Matthew is exactly right. And even with Woodward and Burnstein, they played this game. You didn't know who Deep Throat was, even though that was news too. - Robert Scoble
what announcement? - kang
I didn't mean Robert should report it. I meant Allen Stern who commented he was not under an embargo. He knows it, he has no NDA, he should report it. - Mark
RT Allen Stern "heh - i know now what the announcement is and i am not embargoed - i should make a post :)" - Mark
I hope its not Gazelle. If it is I respect Robert for abiding by the embargo. It seems as though no one in tech abides by embargoes any more. If it is Gazelle, might as well discuss since it is all over the tech blogs already. - Keith James Designs
As they keep it under the blanket till now! It should be software only thingy! speculations about xbox, zune phone etc are free to leave! - Amir
It's not Gazelle. At least I don't think so, because I have no clue what Gazelle is. I'm off to find out. - Robert Scoble
Ahh, nope, what I was thinking of is not Gazelle. But now that I see the rumors I wonder if Microsoft has more than one major announcement on Monday? - Robert Scoble
My Guess: They enabled Live Mesh Web Desktop to run applications, So in future all applications are going to be hosted in Live Mesh - Amir
maybe i want use chrome all day,,just for internet surfing - qian
Hey Robert, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being an announcement that version 8.1 of IE includes a better spell-checker, and 10 being that Windows 8 is coming out in 2010 and is free, how many out of 10 is the announcement going to be in terms of having an impact? - Mark
btw I have had this single chrome window open for about a week, and because each tab has its own process I don't get memory leaks like with firefox. - Mark
Not sure to be honest - Mark
Mark: that's hard to judge. I'd say 6.9 based on how you framed it. - Robert Scoble
Is this something that will go over well on Wall Street? - Michael Fidler
Well, today Microsoft announced the promotion of Steven Sinofsky to president of the Windows Division. - imabonehead
Robert ur (face) a hit today in the news outlets: http://lifehacker.com/5310444... - polou/indigo_bow
I hope Google comes up with a great OS. I have tried any different Linux versions on my netbook but have never found the perfect one. Looks like they have connected the right partners as well so I am very excited. 9 0ut 10 for me. This could change everything - Asgeir
TechCrunch on Scoblelizer's drumroll: "Office In Cloud Comes Monday" http://bit.ly/18sKUe - JimmyJet
it will be a sigh of release for people come to fear those massive, massive office purchase/downloads. still a pain for when you travel and have no access online though... - Terry O'Fee
While Google's forays in the OS and office productivity arenas are great for consumer choice, are they playing w/ fire? Google's core revenue stream is search, which has a much lower switching cost than any of MS's multiple revenue streams: Client, Office, Server. It seems like the two are pitching for a protracted fight that could be costly to both. But in a battle of attrition, it seems to me that Google could lose $ faster than MS. - lingb
Windows ME Ultimate? - Michael Funk
Well, it's Monday, what is the announcement about? - Sue - Friendfeed is best
MS is making Office apps online. Ala google apps. Boring. - Rudy Amid