Agree. It's very slow compared to Safari 3. But it's still beta? - Håkan Dahlström

As much as I love my iMAC I've always preferred Firefox over Safari. Now, if Roboform would just port their software. 1Password just doesn't do the job. - Brandon Hall

Is this based off the latest and greatest WebKit? If so, I'm really surprised. - WiseYoda (aka Patrick)

Have not experienced those problems on a MacBook Air. - Michael Osterman

It also causes other apps to stop working. I've gone back to Safari 3 on all of my macs. - Sufian Siddiqi

I love Safari 3 on Windows. - Alp

Isn´t it still beta ? People are spoiled because everyone through "beta" on every service and app for a while because it was hip. It really means not stable. Use a stable release (ie. 3) for critical work. Production releases from them are usually good. - Thomas Bøhm

The tabs are really unusable. - Ben

Have not tried it out. But is it really that bad!! - Sujay

I can't think of anything Apple's made that's great in beta. Final release is always wonderful. Firefox betas may have spoiled us. - Mike Lewis

I really don't like Safari 4's implementation of tabs. Apart from the fact that they shouldn't be on top, they go all the way to the top edge of the window, which means you will probably accidentally switch tabs while trying to move the window. - Joey Gibson

To their credit they did make a little headway since 3.x on Windows. They can thank Google for showing them the way by making an instantly appealing and fast webkit browser. - Adi

Never had a problem with it, I use it full time at home on a 3 year old MBP and my very old Dell PC - Caspar Aremi

Firefox 3.5 Beta is IMHO faster than 3.0.x on a Mac. It would be great if Firefox would change from Gecko to WebKit. - Waldemar Schott

I use it all the time without issue. Initially I didn't like the tabs but now really like the position. I can now have lots of tabs open without the crashing I experienced with Firefox. For a beta, it's working well for me. - Howard Keziah

Perhaps Apple should stop working on browsers. I think that area of consumer computer use is well covered by people who really know what they're doing. We, as an internet, need another browser on the net like we need more trolls. Just my $.02. That and $4.48 gets you Starbucks. - Dan Messer

Wondering if this is semi-intentional: Let's forget about the Web, folks, it's too unreliable, come to the App Store and buy that far more trustworthy MSM content. - John Blossom

Agreed. It's driven me back to Firefox. And is it just me, or has there been a total lack of updates for Safari 4? Maybe we'll get them when 10.5.7 drops... - Andy Bold

I agree, sucks. I prefer Chrome on the PC but like having my bookmarks synced between my PCs so I use Firefox on the Mac and on the PC a lot as well. - Jim Graham

Yah Safari 4 is a major let down, and seems to screw up a LOT with flash based websites. Not impressed - Angus Burton

Jim: are you using a plugin to keep your firefox bookmarks synced between your Mac and PC? - Angus Burton

I actually disagree. I've been running the Beta since it came out and have now pretty much moved over to it full time. I usually run 3 windows, each with multiple tabs open all the time and it's been pretty stable and useable. It crashes every now and again, but with the Saft plugin, I get auto resume when I start it up again. Saft also gives you the option of moving the tabs back under the address bar. All in all, I've been very impressed with it. - Keith Bennett from Nambu

I've noticed pages often seem to be endlessly loading, but they function OK. I've had a few freezes as well. The latest Webkit seems more stable, although whenever it crashes the next time I start up it says to get rid of the plug-ins. The only thing I have going is Gears, so I guess that's a problem. My Gmail offline features works though. I don't see the big speed drop from Safari 3, and the latest Firefox ends up hogging all my resources on my Powerbook, so I end up using Safari 4 a lot. - Steve Wright

It beachballs for me consistently ...Safari 4 + Flash = Crash. Yes, that rhymes. - Bwana ☠

Wonder if it's time for a "Plug-Ins" spring cleaning!!!! Go to /Library/Internet Plug-ins/ and nuke away! - sean andersen

Safari 4 beta (with Flash turned off) hasn't crashed or hung for me yet in the last two months. - Victor Ganata

I've only had a few crashes with Safari 4 with the Webkit nightlies. It's pretty much rock solid and I've been running it since it was released. - Akiva Moskovitz

Still waiting for Chrome for mac here :P - Napolux from twhirl

im waiting for chrome on the linux.... - Chris Jackson

Funny, I was having so many problems with FireFox 3 I switched to Safari 4 and have been happy as a clam. - ChiliMac

You can download it again now, it´s updated (you´ll have to upgrade the OS to 10.5.7 first too). - Thomas Bøhm

I find it to be very fast when its working but it does hang and freeze too often, especially on the "top site" view. - Justin Luey

I like how it randomly decides not to load a web page now and then. It's as if Safari 4 knows when I need a break. - Gunny doesn't side-hug™

Yeah, it really doesn't like flash either. - Drew Lucas

@Drew - Safari 4 + Flash sent me on a long arduous round trip of testing other browsers for OS X, and I've ended up back at Firefox. :-/ - Andy Bold

Yeah I mean, it hangs up every 5 minutes or so, on simple small embeds! *sigh* - Drew Lucas

Flash remains a problem. Other than that Safari 4 Beta with Webkit is running fine for me. - Peter Kruit

Maybe that's why Safari 4 Webkit runs so well for me: I avoid Flash like I avoid shooting myself in the face with a bazooka. - Akiva Moskovitz

Akiva LOL - Andy Bold

No kidding. What's up with that - I use Apple products cuz they rawk, if I wanted something to suck I'd go back to a PC and use MSFT products - Mary McKnight

Mary, something tells me you just really love those I'm a Mac/I'm a PC ads. - Akiva Moskovitz

What do you think of it now? - Byron McCollum

Keep in mind. That was Beta. - Drew Lucas from email

I'm liking Safari 4. After clearing out my Input Managers (OSX) all my problems went away. Before it was slow and buggy, now it is much better. - Andy Bold from email

I'm using Safari 4 on Windows 7 and it's great - really, really flies, even compared to Chrome. And no crashes so far! - Ian Betteridge

Safari 4 seems to be running much smoother compared to Chrome and Mozilla Firefox on my system. In fact, I've already configured Safari 4 to be my new default Web browser! - Thomas Ward

Funny my experience has been positive. On the PC it runs well and is fast. I wasn't expecting much, now I may use it as much as Google Chrome, we'll see. - John Hardy