It will go mainstream. In fact I have seen people from real estate using it
- Varun Mahajan
I like FF ( and no, that is not FireFox) more and more every day
- Denis
To answer the question about bloggers' conversations occurring on FF instead of their comments: you could just post a link at the end of your blog post to the FriendFeed page for that post (once it's available) and say something like "to comment on this post, go here". I'd like to see someone try that out.
- Nathaniel Payne
There is already a plugin to pull the comments from ff and stick them on your WP Blog. Sounds like we are not that far off.
- Rahsheen
from twhirl
I think us bloggers are going to have to learn to accept that conversations about our content will occur outside our blogs. People are able to talk about religion without having to go to a church to do it; people who want to complain about Katie Couric aren't expected to make their statements only to CBSNews.com. What we'll benefit most from are discovery tools to find out where people are talking about us and what they're saying - Summize, etc.
- Todd Mundt
That's an idea, Nathaniel, but the problem is that the conversation becomes splintered. It won't stay on that discussion thread alone. Someone will tweet about the post and it'll continue there. Someone will share it in Google Reader and it'll continue there. The conversations aren't tied to just one place, they're everywhere.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Multiple discussions occuring in different places about the content you created. This used to be a Positive for marketing...
- Rahsheen
from twhirl
@Shawn - from my perspective, comments are great for discussing ideas, wherever they occur. In adding FriendFeed links to my blog posts, I actually included some to another person's Google Reader share of my blog post. Why? The conversations were better there. So someone else gets the comment action. Not a problem. I can always find it via searching FriendFeed.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Rahsheen - a positive for marketing buzz, but a negative for brand management - I can see bloggers' concern, but like Todd Mundt just said, we have to accept that conversations are allowed to exist beyond our blogs and that we can't contain it all - why bother trying?
- Nathaniel Payne
Exactly, Rahsheen. I don't get why people are so resistant to discussions happening in more than one place.
- Brent Newhall
I've even had conversations about blogs with people offline and neglected to post transcripts back into the stream. So, maybe they don't even exist.
- Michael Markman
if the discussion takes place away from the blog, it reduces the page views and consequently the potential ad revenue
- Paul Metcalfe
That sounds logical, Paul. But I think this argument is akin to the music industry saying they lose money when ppl d/l mp3's
- Rahsheen
from twhirl
Cliffnotes of Part I: "Normal people (ie, those who aren’t on Twitter 18 hours a day) don’t like noise." Seriously, I think that sentence is really the key point and largely crystallizes your whole argument.
- Deva Hazarika
Paul: A discussion on FriendFeed may generate *more* page views (and thus ad revenue) on the blog because of people seeing the FF discussion and clicking through to the blog. The more discussions that happen around the web, the more popular the blog's going to be. Surely it's better to have lots of different discussions happening all around the web about your blog, right?
- Brent Newhall
Personally, if it were discussion about something I wrote, I'd like to at least be able to take part in the discussion and that's the problem I see with FF. The fragmented conversation. If the conversation takes place in the blog comments, it's much easier for me to follow. If people spin off into their own conversation and you aren't following them, you'd have no idea. If there was a way to keep everything under the umbrella of the original discussion, FF would be even more powerful.
- Shawn Farner
I think their needs to be some type of cooperation between content creators and friendfeed. If you know your convo may move to ff, move it there yourself, plug ff directly into your blog with a plugin or something. Embrace it. It could only help.
- Rahsheen
I just realized I wish FF had a save or tag-like function Sometimes I see conversations that I'd love to come back and re-read later. I've been saving a link to some of them, but since moving to del.icio.us, I barely bookmark anything. Web 2.0 stuff is making me lazy. :)
- Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
But, what is it that FeedFriend do that can't be done by anyone else? Where is the sustainable advantage to this system?
- Bob Wyman
There lots of reason it won't go, but the IU issues will get resolved and the watch out.
- Russellreno
bob, you're here. That was such a Microsoft response. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
All I know is, ff did something that I was looking for and no one else had done. That by itself makes it sustainable unless someone attempts to do it better.
- Rahsheen
from twhirl
But the discussion is ALREADY fragmented? Why is this new? If you write an article and I blog about it, the discussion among my blog's readers will occur on my blog? Sure, I might send your blog a trackback, but I find that so many of my trackbacks are spam that I don't even bother looking at them anymore.
- Mitch Wagner
Posting a comment here does not allow me to also post to my Twitter account unless the original post was generated by Twitter (the checkbox doesn't appear below this textbox). Even when I can simultaneously post, my twittering is associated with FF, but not the URI. Any gratuitous @ symbols I throw in are associated with the username's comments which may have nothing to do with the context of the message.
- RandaL Hicks
IMHO FF should always allow an option to cross-post and enable linking back to the conversation. FF would send a tinyURL (generated from the URI) along with the message to Twitter. Twitter would display the message, and at the bottom list FF as the client, but the 'in reply to:Username' field would be In Reply to: http://tinyurl.com/4yjmce ...In the meantime we'll have to clue our friends in manually, all concerns about fragmented conversations aside.
- RandaL Hicks