Question: How are you supposed to broadcast to multiple services without pissing off your Friendfeed followers. Won't they see each post multiple times?
- Daniel Miessler
Daniel: not if you are careful. And, anyway, friendfeed hides duplicate links from your view now.
- Robert Scoble
Ian, I don't remember what I did at this point. I will try to figure it all out and do a blog post.
- Robert Scoble
@Ian, you do not. Use the API key from ping.fm (http://ping.fm/key/) and put that into the Twitter settings for twhirl and it will work.
- Jauder Ho
It's getting there! still like to know if there is anyway to filter out ppl's extra feeds like video, digg, stumble etc and just get there FF and Twitter updates
- roger byrne
What makes HelloTxt.com better? Give us some details.
- MarkCarras
So, does this make your brother Alex the "Pinky" in the relationship? Narf...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Robert: Definitely look forward to your blog post on this. FF will hide only duplicate links not messages.
- Kevin Whalen
from twhirl
All is about balance: do not add platforms you ping with ping.fm on FriendFeed to avoid duplicates. Twhirl should allow to use the custom triggers in the settings. FriendFeed could also take a page from Profilactic which allows to keep a social profile but muting it. Been using ping.fm for a long time, never looked back.
- Paul Papadimitriou
from BuddyFeed
Robert: Please, please, please, just work out a logical publishing flow instead of spamming everybody with Ping.fm. FriendFeed might "hide" duplicate links, but every one of those links is going to generate a different conversation and stream of likes. And if a user tries to "hide" your twitter post, then they'll just have to go hide all the other copies. Figure out where you want to insert your content into the stream...one place... and let it flow downstream. Please, please, please...
- Ken Sheppardson
Using Ping.fm will turn you from being a social connector to the drunk guy at the party who you just can't get away from and just talks too loud.
- Ken Sheppardson
my main concern is about duplicate entries on twitter. e.g. I'm posting from moby a picture uploaded automatically to flickr and tumblr. moby notifies twitter. flickr and tumblr notify ff which will also notify tweeter. 3 notif for the same stuff :( any hint?
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Writing down a social network workflow is important, in my view. Map it and try it. Being able to share value without overkilling is important to every user here, but elsewhere as well. It means taking some decisions, like not updating certain services, being attentive of cross-posting, separating pro and personal SNS presence maybe.
- Paul Papadimitriou
from BuddyFeed
Jean-Charles, I would not send every Flickr photo to twitter, because general photo-sharing is not the purpose of twitter and your followers don't have the tools to deal with it. Things like mobile photos and brightkite notes are more appropriate because they add metadata to a tweet. Like Paul said, you have to make decisions and not put everything on auto-blast.
- Daniel Sims
I think we got a problem here, which is that services try to integrate together on a unique way, while my need would be, for instance: tumblr notifies ff of a new post but NOT of a new photo upload. The temptation here is to remove notif from _all_ services and only rely on FF. But as you say @papadimitriou, it probably takes drawing it on a paper and see how it goes..
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
mmm. i just opened Facebook on my Nokia e51 phone.. and I have five updates from friends displayed.., Four of them belong to Scoble! do us a favour and at least turn it off in Facebook.
- Jez Arnold
Correct, Daniel. And this is not what I'm willing to do. But it was an unexpected side effect of flickr notif to FF, and FF notif to twitter. Since I deactivated flickr notif from FF, it's now fine (hmm, hope so)
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
"not put everything on auto-blast", these are the best words for all this thread! Great way of putting it!! In the end, think why people follow you. Many come from Twitter to FriendFeed: do you think they want to read about every private status, see every family picture, know of every song you listen on iTunes (wink, wink, last.fm feeders ;-) ?
- Paul Papadimitriou
from BuddyFeed
@Ken Please explain how ping.fm does such a thing.
- Bryan Bartow
from twhirl
I think Ping.fm is great, but I rarely use it for status updates unless I want to 'blast' my followers. Selective use of which services you are going to update is essential. It is not enough that FF can hide duplicate updates; they simply shouldn't be made in the first place. Ping.fm is great when used in combination with Digsby - which allows you to keep track of multiple Twitter, FaceBook, MySpace, Email and IM accounts.
- Chris Loft
So to avoid duplicate FF posts, is the answer to only import 1 of the Ping.fm services into FF (ex. twitter) and not the others (ex. identi.ca/ facebook).
- Kevin Whalen
from twhirl
Again, would be nice if FriendFeef allowed to mute selective own feeds: you could display a identi.ca logo without the feed being shown to avoid duplicates. Profilactic does this.
- Paul Papadimitriou
from BuddyFeed
now I've got my workflow pretty much done, but I need to figure out if I still need ping.fm, which sounds here like a total duplicate of the notification methods I've selected...
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
Paul: They do this with Facebook actually if you have the FF app installed in Facebook.
- Kevin Whalen
from twhirl
Paul: I agree, but FriendFeed first needs to actually remove hidden feeds, and not just hide them on the client side. I have FF set to hide all tweets, and sometimes my entire Home page is blank because all the "hidden" tweets are technically still there.
- Daniel Sims