Do you mean they should allow nipples too ? - Jim Braux-Zin

Totally agree down with FB - Kemp Edmonds

Why can't you have a breastfeeding community but you can have a Holocaust denier site? Really lame Facebook. - Robert Scoble

Jim: if you are going to hide behind freedom of speech, then you gotta be consistent about that. - Robert Scoble

Jim: That's my opinion. I think holocaust deniers are horrible idiots, but it's not Facebook's place to put them in their place. Nor should it be up to Facebook to tell breastfeeders to take a hike. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Not to mention Facebook refuses to post ads for films about lesbians (that AREN'T porn). http://www.realprincessdiaries.com/2009... - Is Facebook a little afraid of Internet sexuality? Hmm... Do we need to get the MPAA to design a G, PG, PG-13 rating system for website too? Yikes. - Tyler Hayes

Its tough being the biggest isn't it Zuckerbergnutz? Seriously Facebook needs to pull up its socks and start protecting human rights and freedoms while doing away with hate. Why can't I dislike something on my Facebook feed? - Kemp Edmonds

I am ALL for nipples. But apparently the FCC isn't the only organization to have a problem with them. - Dan Messer

Chris: I'd agree with you if Facebook was consistent and left up all speech. But it bans stuff all the time (and people) and is NOT consistent with its defense of freedom of speech. So, since they already have trashed free speech principles, they should get rid of the Holocaust deniers too. - Robert Scoble

Chris: I agree. If the groups are not forbidden by law, Facebook should allow them. However, the fact that children could access them must be taken into account... - Jim Braux-Zin

Children have nothing to do with this lol. We all agree Facebook isn't held to freedom of speech, they can do what they want. That doesn't mean it's ethical for them to do that though. Then again, this is the only social media network who owns your material, rather than you owning your material. So I'd say they've kind gone against most of the rules so far. - Tyler Hayes

The real point is : forbidding hate groups doesn't help human rights at all. By keeping them in public places, they are bound to be more moderate and can easily be monitored. - Jim Braux-Zin

Robert: I'm saying that Facebook should be consistent and leave up all speech, etc. I find it horrible that it picks and chooses at all; that its choices are bad ones is irrelevant to me. They should leave all enough alone and do so consistently. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Jim: Excellent point. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I agree with Chris. If Facebook chooses to not leave up all speech, then where are the rules that say what they will/won't allow to be posted? - Tyler Hayes

YES TO NIPPLES, NO TO NAZIS! - Michael Forian

They are taking the same approach as the app store for the iPhone. They should be consistent. Let the community decide. - Chris Mullins

Are you saying they would prevent a topless meme like was on Friendfeed last week? ;) ;) Men have nipples too. - David Damore

I think its time for the men to do a Topless Meme on FB then.. - Uncle CW™

"I have nipples Greg, can you milk me?" - patrick

Playing devil's advocate here... Should the breastfeeding/Holocaust thing be seen differently since the breastfeeding issue was pictures of nipple whereas the Holocaust thing is hate speech in the form of text? - Rochelle

This is why we must move on Darfur. Hitler has been heavily quoted at the outset of the Holocaust "Kill every Jew. Every man, woman and child. No one will care. After all who today remembers the Armenians?" Facebook should brook no hate speech. Hate speech is not open discussion. It perpetuates deluded megalomaniacs and their warped causes. Period. - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

Thank god they allow links to nipples! - I'll have to build my stalag collection somewhere else. http://www.sterf.be/tag... http://www.filmforum.org/films... - Matt Robson

Hate speech may be bad, it is speech. We are on a *so* slippery slope... - Jim Braux-Zin

Anybody know what the policy is of censoring tools like netnanny toward breastfeeding pictures? - Bruce Lewis

Bruce: Same as Daleks toward anything at all. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

+1 mike arrington - Karim

@CW™ @patrick: +1 for each of you. - David Damore

We all know where hate speech leads, going how it became hate crimes in Nazi Germany. Appeasing it by allowing it is never right. Hate speech is still the slandering of someone. And in its worst form, it leads to people being hurt, maimed or killed. - George Hall (Australia)

Chris :-). But actually that was a serious question. The TOS for a site I run punts decency standards over toward tools like netnanny. I hope by doing it that way I'm not inadvertently censoring reasonable pictures. - Bruce Lewis

Bruce: And I gave a serious answer. As far as my experiences have gone, breastfeeding pics are as good as hardcore pornography. [NOTE: This is referring to Bruce's question re: censoring tools & breastfeeding pics.] - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Chris, when was the last time you were breastfed? - Akiva Moskovitz

Does this mean that in those fb advertisements- the lonely girls offering their services to me won't have any nipples either?? - Chris Loft

Chris Charabaruk, so you're saying that, in your experience, hardcore porn is the same as a mom feeding her baby? - Rochelle

I'm reminded of a holy place called the Milk Grotto in Bethlehem. JC and parents escaping Herod to Egypt, baby Jesus needing a breast feed. Mlk drops and turns the walls of the grotto white. But Christian artists and sculptors depicted it in all it's glory. Virgin Mary shown with one bare boob. If it's good enough for christian artists and sculptors... - George Hall (Australia)

Rochelle: No, I'm saying net censorship packages like NetNanny say that. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Bruce, from what I've been able to determine via Google, NetNanny classifies breastfeeding pictures as "obscene". - Rochelle

Solution is more nipples, not fewer Nazis. - Anthony Citrano from BuddyFeed

Nipples uber alles? :p - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Luckily that's a 2:1 ratio by default. - Akiva Moskovitz

Rochelle, what search did you do? I'm having difficulty finding anything. - Bruce Lewis

Bruce, a comment from "Jen" here: http://madeadifference.blogspot.com/2008... - Rochelle

Surprised this is rarely mentioned but it is against the law for punishing an individual for being a part of a group (any group protected under the law, including scumbag Nazis) sooo, just throwing this out there that they (Facebook) may be ambivalent for that reason. (Court case: Scales v. Noto ((I think)) - Brandon Mendelson

Brandon, you have a choice between Scales vs. U.S. or Noto vs. U.S. - Rochelle

deplareolable - J.D. Deutschendorf

1. Everyone likes nipples. 2. Everyone has nipples. 3. If you think about it the word "nipples" is funny. :-) - Dave Winer

The Gospel According to Dave. - Akiva Moskovitz

Brandon, Scales & Noto were prosecutions under U.S. law (the Smith Act). An internet company's Terms of Service aren't necessarily telling people not to break the law, but rather stating what constitutes *acceptable behavior* on their service. If Facebook says that you violate *their* rules, they can kick you off *their* service, whether what you did was legal or not. - Karim

The problem with censorship is that it creates a slippery slope and is subject to subjective abuse. As soon as you start censoring you will get hit with the "why this, but not that," argument. It's almost impossible to win. That's why the less censorship the better. It may not be entirely possible to have zero censorship for some sites (think spam, porn, etc.) but the best policy is to be *extremely* cautious and thoughtful when employing it and to err on the side of uncensored if anything's even close. It's absolutely ridiculous that Facebook bans photos of breastfeeding. Although my only photo on Facebook is of a woman breastfeeding and they haven't taken it down for a few years now. - Thomas Hawk

First twitter is a business, so it can ban or allow anybody they want, that being said I think they should allow both groups. The Holocaust Deniers are sick and hateful group but they should be allowed to stay in the bright light of day where everyone can see their stupidity. Not allowing the breast feeding group seems a little childish. - Kim Landwehr

At face value I would agree with Mike Arrington on this. But then he took a different standpoint on the Kathy Sierra uproar 2 years ago - there free speech was king. The breast issue is a different issue. They should not be talked about together. While I have hardly any problems with any form of nudity, lots of cultures do. What they have in common is that both issues cause groups of people offense. To be honest if you want breasts there is a big world wide web out there waiting to satisfy your needs. Idem for Holocaust Deniers. I don't use Facebook to browse the web, do you? - DC Crowley

This is an idiotic statement. Freedom of speech doesn't just mean when you agree with it. - Geoffrey Hamilton from twhirl

Kim, when you say "Twitter", I assume you mean Facebook. Also, to clarify, Facebook allows breastfeeding groups and pictures. What they don't allow is pictures that show exposed nipple or areola. - Rochelle

Did it really take a Mike Arrington to interest the digerati in the breastfeeding censorhip issue? Sheesh. - Daniel J. Pritchett

There is a time and a place for everything - Just like there are specific forums for specific things - Facebook is neither of the above mentioned forums. It is a social networking site & thus should be used for that purpose only! - Medical Alarm Concepts

No, sorry. You're blatently wrong. You can't discriminate against people because of their beliefs on a social networking site, no matter how irrational they may be. And as far as irrationality is concerned, i promise you that belief in a holocaust conspiracy is less irrational than belief in an omnipotent god. Religion is the most dangerous social construct in the history of the world, and more attrocities have been committed in the name of religion over the course of history than during the holocaust. Despite this, religious groups should still be allowed. - Geoffrey Hamilton from twhirl

Anthony is 100% correct (as is Geoffrey). The solution is more nipples, not fewer nazis. It would be wrong in my opinion to ban simple speech, just because someone thinks of it as hate speech. If the speech is intended to, or does has the effect of inciting violence, or other types of attacks on a certain group or groups of people, then it cannot be allowed. Beliefs do not equate to hate. AND BREASTFEEDING SURE AIN'T PORN. OMG. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Their choices prove something about them but they can do as they please, as a business. They have the right to choose what groups they allow to express themselves, or not. However, I think there should be more nipples, and maybe more cowbell too. - Rick Cogley

I wonder how many of you guys who are saying "more nipples" are in favor of the breastfeeding photos not because you feel women have a right to post them and want to support that right, but simply because you're a guy and you want to see pictures of breasts. - Rochelle

I want women to have the right to post their breast feeding pics AND I want to see more boobs! - Andrew

Less hate, and no Nazis is always a better option.....more nipples is never bad. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

You guys need to realize that, in nearly all cases, holocaust denial isn't an independent issue; it's part of a larger problem. Sure, maybe not all holocaust deniers are neo-Nazis but you can bet that most neo-Nazis are holocaust deniers. Either way, the groups are inextricably linked and Nazism, neo or otherwise, is hate and does promote violence, etc. Last I checked, breastfeeding just promotes healthy babies. - Akiva Moskovitz

Also, keep in mind that Facebook doesn't ban breastfeeding groups. They've banned nudity. It just so happens that members of breastfeeding groups tend to be all right with trading photos of themselves breastfeeding which just so happen to usually include nudity and so it was the breastfeeding groups that were making the most noise. I think several different issues are being conflated here. - Akiva Moskovitz

Hate speech takes a lot of reading and is difficult to find. Nipples are easy and fun to look for. - M. Rubinstein