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Robert Scoble
I love it. Everyone is complaining that friendfeed is going too fast. Welcome to my world! Now, learn to use lists!
April 6
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Bill Romanos, Mathew A. Koeneker, Thomas Power and 140 other people liked this
yea not sure about this.. it's basically "real time view" with a better UI
- andy brudtkuhl
This is awesome! I need to start following more people NOW!
- Lise
I'm trying it based on your recommendation. So far, so good!
- Denise Polivy
Wow it moves real fast
- coze
It's like IRC now.
- Andrew Leyden
And there's always that Pause button up there to slow things down
- Craig Eddy
Can I drag people to lists yet? That'd make it easier to organize.
- Jordan Hofker
Hee hee, it's like being turned into a pinball!
- Mark Dykeman
If it's too fast, you're too old.
- Justin Doub
too awesome
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Why use lists when the people I subscribe to are the ones I want to see? Only reason i have lists is to see specific people that I like to follow and catch up with at the end of the day. Kind of like RSS.
- Santa CW™
no one likes change ,, change is inevitable ..
- johnpiercy
It's going to make HIDE much more important.
- Andrew Leyden
wow! this is crazy cool
- patrick
the list options create great filters.
- Peter van Teeseling
FriendFeed as the same potencial than Diigo and the same problem: not easy to use...
- António Teixeira
How dare you tell me how to use FriendFeed! (Except that you're right, of course; time to address my lists usage.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think that we have to introduce segmentation in our reading :) it is fun and exciting :)
- abdellah
I would like the icons back saying what type of service the post is from...possibly in the bottom right corner of the avatars.
- Paul Arterburn
My parents will hate how active the page is - the next generation, who go at the pace of Wall-E, will eat it up
- Christopher Galtenberg
haha, yeah I need to up my game in the lists - haven't had to use - but now I will. But I love it!
- Tony
That's dangerous. Lists require lots of thought, work, organization. If there's one thing we know from running Grazr, people do not want to do that (well most non-organization obsessed people). I think essentially forcing the use of lists is a big mistake for broader adoption.
- mikepk
I suspect people will trim their subscribe list, while they adjust
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Or the pause button!
- Paul Jacobson
so what's the first thing to do that's going to slow this down?
- Todd Jordan
I don't mind the speed, but I think there are more elegant things they could do with the UI during live updates (ie: fading to/from colors) and of course letting the user control speed of updates and UI effects.
- Ryan Stanley
when he name list, it mean filtering :)
- abdellah
Hmm... a few rooms (feeds now?) I created seem to be missing or just not easy to find. Will check out the tour to see if I'm missing something
- Dave Ferrick
woah neddy.....wouldn't tabs for search terms in the main page be a good idea...
- Paul Fabretti
the one problem with the speed is that what you are scanning suddenly jumps off the page. perhaps a way to "pin" what you are reading temporarily...
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Yikes, is there a pause button somewhere?
- Sally Church
This mega-threaded replies really do float to the top.
- Andrew Leyden
I guess your world sucks then.
- Brian Sullivan
I feel a bit like @scobleizer now.
- Mike Reynolds
pause button in upper right corner on blue strip.
- Thomas Hawk
+Joelle I think I'm benefiting by having relied on FOAF a lot more than subscribe to everyone interesting.
- Micah Wittman
pause top right ||
- Andrew Leyden
@Sally yes
- Ryan Stanley
Sally, Pause icon in top blue bar, right side.
- Micah Wittman
i think we'll get used to it. I already use lists, but still it's the motion of what you are reading that is tricky
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
So is this just live in the BETA area or is it going live system wide today?
- Andrew Leyden
it's amazing to see the comments pooring in here.
- Peter van Teeseling
needs a keyboard shortcut for pause. Or a contextual gesture (like hovering over some part of a story). Having to scroll to the top to pause is clunky
- mikepk
Wow, the likes pop up fast!
- Steve Rubel
Weird when what you're reading wobbles because there are things going on above it - if the L&F remains, we can dub this the 'newquake' :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
I worried that the new oh my god it refresh so fast kill the conversation in FF, I havn't to worry robert thread will be there as long or may be longer then ever
- abdellah
Andrew: just in beta area.
- Robert Scoble
Oh... the room I created is now under Subscriptions. Okay...
- Dave Ferrick
love your new avatar!!!!
- B.L. Ochman
wow, love the way the comments roll in...Robert, is your video up? good tips in it?
- Richard Binhammer
Pop Up!
- Jeff Stannard
I can't WAIT until the twitter-only crowd starts bitching about all of the friendfeed meta convos that are "cluttering up" their twitter streams
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Thomas, thank you, thank you! I was getting dizzy just trying to read anything. I hate the fugly UI and the RT speed. Going back to Twitter, at least one can read in peace at own pace there.
- Sally Church
Lists are the only way to fly, it seems. :)
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
The world is a river...
- Marcelo Nobrega
I use lists but for a completely different purpose.
- Brian Sullivan
Hey Scoble, which desktop client do you use for FF?
- David Alfaro
LISTS are the only sane way to manage FriendFeed. I've had to learn that once I past a 1,000 subscriptions
- Susan Beebe
what happened to the block button
- Russ Jackson
I want an RSS feed for a list
- Dave Ferrick
dave!! do you want to read your FF list in an rss reader?
- abdellah
It pays to be a newbie right now I guess. The speed is to slow. I actually appreciate it being slow right now, gives me a chance to better understand it
- Russ Jackson
Yeah, I have my list paused now. I think we will get used to it anyway. It is fun to watch so many different reactions in so little time.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Have to say -- the message threading is now very nice indeed. Love the automatic update of comments, too. As I typed this, a couple others came in and didn't disrupt. Sweetness. Now I need to learn about lists.
- Anthony Baker
This is really nice so far..liking the realtime comments -DMs are a great addition. Time for more exploration :)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I said the same thing, but then everyone told me I gotta use Filters instead....
- Bwana ☠
Lists are king :) Also, just figured out that ROOMS ---> "FEED" - everything is a "feed" type now
- Susan Beebe
Your green aura frightens me, Mr.Grinch.
- Terence
As I'm one who thinks the quality of interaction went down when lists were added, being forced to make more lists doesn't seem a positive.
- Todd Hoff
I thought the whole point of FF was that you didn't have to "learn" a lot about the interface in order to enjoy the experience. Lists kinda ruined things for me, so if that's the only way to enjoy the new FF, I guess I won't be.
- Jennifer Dittrich
David: I am using Safari as my FF client. Jennifer: that's never been true. This is a lot easier to learn than the old interface.
- Robert Scoble
This will force me to better use lists...
- Seth Meranda
You are the Captain Ahab of social media, Robert. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Hehe really fastt :)
- Alp
The problem is using lists more actually decreases conversation IMHO. I dunno.....
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
There's also the pause button at the top of the page to stop the auto update.
- John F Morton
Yep, agreed. Learn to use lists, use filters, ya gotta learn that sooner or later. I had to do it in Facebook some time ago.
- Tom Parish
Do you have a formulas that you use for your lists?
- Ed Entrepreneur
The filters are only marginally useful. I don't see any way to filter stuff out of a feed. The options for searching/filtering seem just too basic to be any real use.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert, if this is how you've been following Friendfeed ever since you've started, you've become my personal hero. Either you have superpowers or you were born in Krypton.
- Jordi Soler
from twhirl
you need the pause button accessible from anywhere on the page. I'm 70 plus comments down on this conversation and the screen keeps pushing it down and makes the screen "jittery" to keep your eye on what you are reading. Because the screen is moving fast, you probably need 'comment' 'like' and 'hide' links on each nested conversation on anything over 30 comments
- Lou Paglia
now robert may we ask you to share with us some tip about list?!!
- abdellah
Brian: what would you like to see in filters?
- Robert Scoble
if you think the new FF is too fast, stop trying to follow Scoble's threads ;)
- Ryan Stanley
I'm gonna start on the lists :) Way too fast.
- Roberto Bonini
Any way to pause on an individual user's page?
- Aaron Fowler
abdellah: you need to build lists around interests and personality types. So "noisy jerks" go in one list "quilters" go in another "posts lots of bacon" goes in another "tech geeks" goes in another. Jordi: my life has been real time for more than a year now. This takes it to a new level, though.
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see negative searching for one thing -- I want to see everything that doesn't have LOLcats in it for example.
- Brian Sullivan
we need a keyboard shortcut for pause. Would help read comments, etc
- shaun mclane
We asked for ways to better track our discussions - and now we have an improved version (due to convenient link).
- Mike Reynolds
@Brian Sullivan search for cats -lolcats should eliminate them from your results
- Ryan
robert, I was thinking like hope that some will not screw the schema of filtering, notice that when we filter using keyword some will may probably try to target some keyword in their feed title .
- abdellah
Robert - yep - this definitely is not for the faint hearted. Must be on crack to use this! LOL
- Susan Beebe
It's an interesting interface. I'll be looking to see if conversations can still occur with this type of flow.
- AJ Kohn
Im curious Robert how many subscriptions do you show under your Subscriptions box. I have 9 and than 90 more.
- Russ Jackson
'welcome to my world' ha ha. i think with all the love the RS gives friendfeed on a regular basis it only made sense to improve it
- AJK
14221 more.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed. I'm going to have to learn to make new feeds to keep using this. Also, I may have to do something to get rid of this light grey background.
- Ted Roden
Would you agree that after clicking on the more link there needs to be better organization of that page or can that be organized through lists as well.
- Russ Jackson
I need to be able to post updates from a list if they're going to be encouraging me to use lists.
- Jesse Stay
The lists/filters system is too complicated
- DarknessFalls
The problem is that lets say a video is shared, and I'm watching the video - the page keeps going down, and I can't finish watching the video inside FriendFeed! That's not sharing, is it?
- Daniel Brusilovsky
My problem is the lists and the filters create more feeds which create more need for more organization.
- Russ Jackson
@Daniel Good point. Perhaps they could open Videos (and similar stuff) in a modal window, allowing the content to scroll ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I think if they auto-pause the UI while I'm mousing over it that might help. It wouldn't need to pause long, just a few seconds.
- Matt Griffith
I don't foresee myself being a pioneer on the new FFeed, so hoping to see some interesting articles now that the embargo time has passed
- AJK
Just clicked pause for a minute but the counter for queued items doesn't show!
- Damian Holmes
Another suggestion on the new real-time updates. Give me keyboard shortcuts to pause the feed. Using my mouse is too slow in a fast-moving feed.
- Jesse Stay
There's alot to complain about FriendFeed and it's UI. Still has alot of problems to address.
- Chris Rodgers
+1 for Pause keyboard shortcut.
- Matt Griffith
Agreed.
- Russ Jackson
I think the number of comments went from zero to +100 in les then 45 minutes.
- Peter van Teeseling
Ryan -- the "-lolcats" search doesn't do that from what I can tell -- it returns an empty feed. I would also like to be able to search for posts having less than a certain number of likes/comments as well as more . I would like to be able to set up searches/feeds for complex expressions ("-lolcats and -loldogs" or "-lolcats and -loldogs" from a group of people with more than 10 likes and 0 comments for instance).
- Brian Sullivan
I Can only image a multi-column FF layout...
- Greg Lato
it will happen Greg... has to... would probably actually lessen the jitter effect
- Christopher Galtenberg
UI Tweaks, please: keyboard pause, pause button/key on every page with live updating, comment link at end of comments
- Aaron Fowler
I love how fast it is going. It's really real-time.
- Peter Kruit
Needs a "slow it down" toggle - maybe a slider for the speed?
- Jesse Stay
OMG! I see why you bought a separate monitor.
- LeighaB
or we have the option of ignoring ff just like twitter gets ignored when I tried to reciprocate even a portion of the followers
- Susan Reynolds
@Leigha: Yeah, I can definitely see the need for another monitor for this version of FF. I'm considering it myself.
- AJ Kohn
OK, Now I see how the lists work. Much easier to manage.
- LeighaB
FriendFeed should take that as a sign - you shouldn't *need* a second monitor to use their service.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse: I view this as a better way to access the data flow - which is what I believe FF is at the end of the day. Why not have a separate place to conduct my data queries while I do other things?
- AJ Kohn
@Brian The negative searches work, but you can't just search for "-lolcats". That's just a blank search. Try "cats -lolcats"
- Aaron Fowler
For Twitter, the only way I listen in is via search.twitter.com or pure luck. Or via FF for that matter. I view more Twitter content on FF than on Twitter itself.
- Mike Reynolds
Brian, yeah I badly want to filter out lolcats too; -cat friends:maverickny seems to work so far
- Sally Church
Yeah following 11.5k people is hard. I really need to use lists
- Nicholas James
Andrew Leyden is totally right. It's like IRC.
- Ian Betteridge
one of my favourite descriptions of twitter: "like IRC meets the whole world"
- Dean Whitbread
I'm sorry @scobleizer but your world must die ;)
- A.T.
I use lots of lists and filters - I'd love to TURN OFF the real-time updating, please.
- Bill Sodeman
I could use a tutorial on how to use lists but do not have the time anyway :o)
- David Gross
the new friendfeed filters are awesome. even better than friend lists.
- Mike Bruder
by the time i have made a list, this page would have vanished :)
- Tatty Gibson
I'm back home & trying to catch up with what's up with the new FriendFeed - I'm assuming it's now live?? Also, I'm not noticing things moving too fast... is that because I'm not following as many people as many of you???
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
ill admit friendfeed looks pretty damn compelling. certainly complex at first blush.
- doubledrat
how to use lists?
- kang
filter is really a cool thing
- kang
certainly faster than twitter right now---still down...
- ChaoSurfer
so...when there are a lot of comments...it's not easy to read...
- kang
many fail whales tonight
- Colin Clark
Moving people from out of my home feed to a different list one at a time is extremely slow. If there's a way to move people out of a list and into a different list in bulk, I haven't found it yet.
- Chuck Baggett
Is there any way to select almost everyone on your home list and move them to a different list in one operation? (Similar to how you can checkmark hundreds of messages in Gmail and perform an operation such as tagging or archiving on all of them at one time.)
- Chuck Baggett