اوووه عکس دوست من :)))) اون چپیه , پرسپولیسیه معروف , رابرت اسکوبل :دی - milad

Ha! That's great! - Brent Newhall

So that's a good reason not to get a friendfeed shirt then? - Jason Carreira

This was unexpected. I went to Crossroads for lunch and and an errand. I thought I saw Robert Scoble and went over to say hello. It turns out that he was at Crossroads with a bunch of other people for a FriendFeed lunch. It was a good day to wear my FriendFeed shirt. - Gary Burd

Great to meet you today Gary. Funny how sometimes the planets align. Scoble has a tendency to make things like that happen :) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Of all the food courts in all the malls in the world... - Alan Cheslow

Neat meetup, "gang sign" idea and you guys are THE FriendFeed gangstas! - Susan Beebe

A good counter-example is BMW's sponsoring TED Talks. - Ole Begemann

Martin: SAP is after small and medium businesses. The "let's talk for a couple minutes first" format is going to change, though. David Allen will be on next week, and he's very influential in the markets they want to reach. - Robert Scoble

But SAP is for heavy industries, very powerful and expensive, we had SAP for "poor people" MS Navision, but still expensive (hours and hours of consulting work to customize it to every client). - Mário Pires

Mario: most of SAP's growth comes from small and medium sized businesses. This is a show about how the Internet is changing how work is done. Fits right into what kind of market they are trying to reach. - Robert Scoble

SAP's model of over pricing and under delivering will never work in the SMB market. Frankly, it's only because of the state of enterprise IT that they've been able to exist at that level. SMB won't have the patience to put up with it. - Kevin Cearns

Robert, if I was attempting to reach a new market that I am just getting into as a company would not the first 3 sentences in a video show be abut my firm and how it can serve that market? - Fred Grott

Ole and Fred: fair enough. We've been at this a month and are still trying to figure out what works. Thanks for the feedback. Luckily we have a sponsor who is willing to help us get started and see if we can make a quality show and get an audience that'll be loyal. So far we're ahead of the market in doing a show about the future of work, and we'll work to get the quality up. - Robert Scoble

I find it quite good that SAP is sponsoring WorkFast.TV! There certainly is a fit as SAP is moving towards Web 2.0 (and Enterprise 2.0). Of course showing silly cups with huge logos on them is not very creative. What about a person from SAP joining the conversation on the set? That would be really 2.0... - Matthias Schwenk

Fred: keep watching, we'll improve both the show's content and SAP's presence on the show. - Robert Scoble

Robert, i was not aware of that, probably because in here just big enterprises use it. - Mário Pires

Lets see, first 3 sentences: SAP provides software that helps both large and small businesses manage and innovate their business and supply relationships to lower costs and bring more services to their business relationship partners...obviously it has to be jazzed up advertising wise but that is a start - Fred Grott

"We'll improve both the show's content blah blah blah blah." You would think that improvements would've come already after you showed your buddy the door for his shit GNTV. Now you're doing this workfast bomb and it's unwatchable, forced, and fake (and btw, the off-the-rack suit and stickered laptop make you look like an idiot) and NOW you're saying it's going to get better? What, is Shel gonna suddenly get camera presence and you stop cackling like a retard? - Vinny

I love Shel's cue cards. He's constantly looking down at them before speaking. - Rob Safuto

Ivan: that's exactly what I mean. - Robert Scoble

aha - just looking now - Ivan Pope via twhirl

so I go to Qik and it tells me I need to do an auto update (to .70) so I download it but it won't install, is telling me the certificate is not in date .... gaaaagh ... did you update for this functionality? - Ivan Pope via twhirl

I've noticed the same thing - Jernej via Alert Thingy

also I think and hope for a feature to allow me to post or not post specific Qiks to groups on transmit - Ivan Pope via twhirl

My videos are lame even with titles so far. http://qik.com/hakandahlstrom - Hakan Dahlstrom

Ivan: weird. My update worked fine. I'd talk with http://www.twitter.com/michael... - Robert Scoble

This is a fantastic idea. - Jeremy Botter

Wouldn't last long in my office. - Ralph Whitbeck

Amazing.. think I could use this idea in a few places. - Roberto Bonini

Clever! i love it. - Federico Fasce via twhirl

Simple, clever, great idea. That FriendFeed crew is a bunch of smart fellers! - Brandon Wood

My employer is too frugal to do that. - Jonathon

now all we need is a color copier and some stock in scotch tape. - Les

Inexpensive risk management. - Dave Pelland

Ha! Very clever. - Brent Newhall

brilliant - Michael J Cohen

Wow! I'm speechless. - directeur via NoiseRiver

nice - Mike Collett

The dollar bill trick doesn’t work with strippers though ;) - Earl E Morningwood

@Earl: Consider it a stripper-filter, then. You know someone's a stripper if they trip over it. - April Buchheit

for some reason i expect a "stripper filter" to be something coded using regular expressions. sad, i know. - Karim

The message here is that Web 2.0 companies are so ignorant of money and revenue that they even step over a dollar on the floor - Jason Carreira via twhirl

Genius!!! - Joe Dawson

Interesting. The photo has been viewed more than 500 times, but has only earned 62 likes and 19 comments. So, for every 1 thing we can see here there's another 9 people hanging out lurking in the shadows. - Robert Scoble

@Scoble the old 90-9-1 rule :) (well almost) - Naor

You could always just superglue some road kill to those things. Nothing gets people's attention more than a dead opossum. - Andrew Leyden

Welcome to the Louis Gray cult. I first rebelled against it, but now the outside world seems weird. But technical evangelist was my title at Microsoft. Google calls those people "developer advocates" or "technology advocates." I like that term better cause it doesn't have a religious connotation. - Robert Scoble

Do we get hats or laptop stickers for joining? Anything? - Chris Baskind

I'm handing out FriendFeed stickers at lunch tomorrow in Bellevue, WA. You're welcome to come! - Robert Scoble

I'd like some laptop stickers. Once whoever the grand pooba is get's them printed let me know. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

I agree with scoble, Evangelist makes me think of some Southern Baptist Preacher spreading fire and brimstone on a hot summer night. - Jason Shultz via twhirl

@Scoble: Is the legal connotation better than the religious one? - Yuvi

Mona, also don't forget to check out blamescoble.com and lolscoble.com. LOL - Hao Chen

and that Louis Gray Facts FF room. LOL I'd post the room link but I'm iphoning it right now - Hao Chen

This is too much information for my little pea brain..... =\ - Mona N

it's actually lolscobles.com. Slightly disturbing at times. - klecu

Admit it. You love FF - Charlie Anzman

When I started neglecting FaceBook and Twitter, I became one with my addiction.. but now that I'm learning the politics, I'm kinda scared ;) - Mona N

@Mona: Politics - You are joking, right? :P - Yuvi

Everyone sees politics when there aren't any. It's what YOU make it. - Charlie Anzman

More like the Godfather-esque org chart HA - Mona N

But I *DO* have MAJOR braggage points! The Godfathers <--note plural (RS and LG) subscribed to me tonight. EF YA - Mona N

Heh. Had a great response from one comment a month ago about the difference between an early adopter, an evangelist and an a-lister. Tech passion. Tech passion with a paycheck. Tech passion with prestige. - Robert Sanzalone

Robert: that's funny! - Robert Scoble

But why can't we just be... tech lovers w/out the subcategorizations? - Mona N

We're all peacocks Mona!! - Joe Dawson

Do you mean sheep??? - Mona N

Robert Sanzalone: good one!! ;o) Mona: yep, it's a cult ...hehehe! - Susan Beebe

If you want to do away with all the categorizations just found your own cult and... doh! - Michael Leuker

Rom: I'd love to do that. - Robert Scoble

Great! Project Wonderland is open source. Runs on Project Darkstar, another open source project. Have a couple of kids developing virtual classrooms using the technology and hopefully get them to finish a prototype in 3-6 months. :D - Rom Feria

left a longer comment on your blog (yeah how old school) but now it's awaiting moderation due to one link :) - Sebastian Küpers

Sebastian: I approved it, sorry about that. - Robert Scoble

I was sceptical regarding SecondLife from the very beginning despite all the hype and much so due to the very same reasons as you: I think their business model is not really focussed (if there is one at all): For non-business users it is not focussed on those willing to be there on a regular basis and to pay for using it (ie. gamers), for business users it is just not scalable and reliable enough (as well as not properly addressing real world legal aspects). Furthermore, I think that generally these 3D environments are poorly suitred to corporate users. I for one am travelling all week long and am only connected through 3G, my company provided laptop is over 3 years old (and it will take another year until a newer one is provided) and due to cost restrictions and lack of time, these 3D experiences are out of scope. And finally I'm convinced that 3D must provide additional value and not just provide the old content in more colors and more dimensions. Even in 2D most flash content doesn't add value... - Arnd Gronenberg

I just don't think that SecondLife offers any benefit to the person using it. WoW is a game, so the benefit there is implicit to gamers, but what's the point in just going onto Second Life? If, however, it was a bit more "social-networky", and intergrated with things like Facebook so that I could write on someone's wall by visiting a virtual house and leaving a message, or something, then maybe there's something in that. If you could go to a virtual cinema and see movies (or at least trailers)... - Neil Barnwell

...and maybe go to virtual music gigs to watch new bands play, meet my friends walking through a virtual mall that has an Amazon store, a Play.com store, an Apply shop. All of which I can go in, play with the merchandise, search the store for it without having the walk around and around in circles, then buy it without queuing up. This is starting to sound like fun. - Neil Barnwell

In fact, you could have "Virtual Microsoft Surface" in a 3D environment, any virtual bar, table, desk could be a surface that you could log into to see your email etc. You could send/recieve SMS, use Twitter... Hang on, we can do all this in real life. Erm. I don't know what my own opinion is any more. Lol. - Neil Barnwell

Currently, Vivaty only supports Internet Explorer 6 or 7 on Windows XP and Vista. - benedikt

I can't use Second Life as my intel GPU can't hack it yet WOW runs just fine. If they want people in large groups joining they need to code something that runs on machines with on board gpu's! - Gerard van Schip

There are lots of companies emerging in the 3D space on the web. Take a look at Ogoglio, 3DVIA (my company) and others (not the least of which are Microsoft and Google). Expect there to be a lot of noise in this space in the next 10 years. - Matt Baron

As a 3D artist I'm impressed by Vastpark and Blink3D (and Ogoglio, but I'm biased since I built the avatars.) Vastpark has a friendfeed room to show off it's lovely capabilities. Blink3D is web-based if you want it to be, and has a really easy workflow for getting assets out of your 3D package and into a scene. Ogoglio is very Webby, and has lots of potential. There is a small but growing community hoping that one of these can be adapted to serve as a 3D client for Metaplace, which is capable of so much. - sergiooooooo

Also, whoever nails a great set of content creation tools with an economy in a virtual world will give SL a big run for it's money. People won't mind a client download if the VW gives them awesome social and build tools, plus a robust client that can run on any half-decent computer. Hence Blink3D for me (today at least, let's see what the scene is like tomorrow.) - sergiooooooo

Exitreality.com is another good example of a web-based 3D space for socializing and it already integrates with MySpace, AIM, bebo and friendster. Not available on Mac, though and this IS a knock-out problem. Why? Imagine having a home which only friends wearing leather shoes can enter. It's physically impossible to enter wearing any other material. Most of the world uses leather shoes, but you keep the rest from visiting you. Sounds pretty stupid, huh? And not very social :-) - Gaby Benkwitz

Vivaty seems to be a very different beast than Second Life, since you are not supposed to 1. create 2. own 3. sell/buy original contents inside their platform. - Opensource Obscure

Also, Linden Lab (that runs Second Life) is developing an open protocol that will lead to interoperability between virtual worlds. They are actively working together with IBM and other independent developers about that. I think this is interesting and I don't see a similar openness in other virtual worlds platforms future strategies - http://blog.secondlife.com/200... - Opensource Obscure

3D is the technology of the future... and always will be... - Steve Follmer via twhirl

I'm still waiting for a live quick cam of your head put on your avatar. I think that is the killer app for 3d, and for video chat - David Lynch

Jeff: true, but I noticed this trend even before I started spending more time here on FriendFeed. Also, other blogger friends of mine are noticing the same thing. Also, I've put out a ton of videos that deserve a lot of links (and would have gotten them four years ago) but now it's very hard to get a link. - Robert Scoble

@Robert, I think as you mentioned as Blogging became a business, people started acting like business people, and became greedy and selfish, and began to avoid linking to their 'competitors'. Unfortunately this is counter to the original spirit of the internet and Blogging. - Jeff P. Henderson

I'll take beach view and ocean over "better cable" any day - fotographic

I don't have a beach view. Gotta walk to the beach. That said, I pinch myself every day that I get to live where I do. - Robert Scoble

Least you guys don't have charter, horrible cable reception, pitiful broadband speed (+ outages + throttling) and they're the only game in town >< - Ed Cline

Jeff and Robert. So true. Personally, I blame Comcast. - Eric Eldon

Not just Comcast, you can blame AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile and probably a few others as well as our Federal government for lagging horribly in appropriate legislation to fix the problem. - Jeff P. Henderson

I tried not to hate out cable company then they came to remove a service box from my house, and ripped a 4 inch wide circle out of my stucco. I wish I had a choice in cable companies. - Blackopsmanners

I live on the east coast near Washington, DC in the cheapest apartments in my town... But I've got FIOS :) - David Silvernail

You'd think that access and speeds in the cradle of America's tech industry would be top of the line. In the rest of the country, in the non-tech world, people I talk to are usually satisfied with their two options (ATT dsl or Charter cable). Most Americans aren't really familiar with the level of speed and access available in other countries. They think they're getting the best that's out there and it won't improve until the consumer demands it. Our goal should be to educate the average consumer. - steplow

Take note of how Kyle wants to control the distribution of content. He definitely sees independent content sites as competition. Wish you could have dug deeper into this issue Robert and asked the tough questions... - Jim McCusker

Engineers will solve the congestion issue? Not likely. The 5 percenters sucking up bandwidth will end up paying more. It's simple math when you consider the true costs associated with the true costs ISP's pay for bandwidth, peering and equipment. I'd be interested in seeing someone do those comparisons. - Jim McCusker

'Like' * 3!!! You said what we've all wanted to say, Louis - thanks for this great post. - Jesse Stay via twhirl

Interesting... and I wonder what this is going to do to Google's rankjuice flow model... if linking to others as part of a mutual info/attention ecomony starts to decline in importance and value. - Tom Beardshaw

@tombeardshaw, you can see how old-school google is .. - gregory lent

There's now a pretty good dialog in the Disqus comments on Louis' blog as well. Good reading - Charlie Anzman

@louisgray this is totally wrong. Linking is one of the most powerful signals you can send to Google about your importance and authority in your topical area. I will leave a bigger comment on your post but basically just read @DannySullivan comment carefully because he said it well. And he should know. Especially brand new bloggers NEED high quality links to even be found in Google. What % of your traffic is through Google? 60%? 75%? Enuf said. - Elliott Ng

@gregorylent maybe... searching people and what they've found here vs searching pages and their content on google? I find FF more useful for finding the latest content. Google still rules as an archive though. - Tom Beardshaw

@Elliott - I think the point of the post was that Louis is getting traffic from FF, google etc rather than from blogs linking to his posts. - John

I guess this could be seen as a Tipping Point for your blog, Louis. When you started out you relied on other people linking to you but now you generated enough content, authority and page rank that the referral traffic from blogs is minimal compared to what you get from Google searches. - John

John, that could be one way of looking at it. Also, year over year, a link from Scoble is about the same. I didn't get linked to from the big guys, aside from him, in 2007. I would get about 200 visits from his stories last year, and the FriendFeed one drove about 350 this year, with other mentions being in the 70 range. Also, this post wasn't supposed to be about me, per se, but about how the biggest blogs drove such a small amount of traffic, relative to social media, in general. - Louis Gray

IMHO, it was always the case that you got more comments the more you commented on other people's blogs. Sort of symbiotic relationship. FF seems to just be the next incarnation of the same rule. FF really is just a single portal to view a member's complete content stream and comment inline. - Shawn Smith

It would be interesting to take a look at a relatively new blogger who is active in social media to see what kind of numbers they are getting. - John

I agree with John above. I went through this with my niche blog. Now, my biggest worry is to keep advancing my game so I stay on the other side of the tipping point. Social Media is a part of that game, adding other services, networks, etc are an important part as well. But they're just tools. - John Frost

I'm inclined to think that there is something much bigger going on here. - Kevin

I think what's really going on is web browsing behavior is changing. People are less inclined to click on blog links. I think louis is right - folks are relying on aggregators and search engines to find content, or they're in their reader subscribed to so many blogs following the links within articles is less appealing. - Jason Kaneshiro

I think there is a point at which what Louis says is true, but it's after his blog "arrived" in a sense. After all, a link from Mashable that only give him 77 readers isn't much when he's getting 3,000 visitors from Google that same day. But it's a ton when no one knows who he is (including Google). I agree with John above about the "Tipping Point." - Bob Caswell

Great piece describing the changing landscape for how blogs are discovered and read. Interesting that the #1 and #3 blogs that drove your referrals were posts that themselves were powered by Techmeme and Digg. You indirectly got the benefit through those services. - Hutch Carpenter

i think i have to agree here. i used to find all kinds of new sites through post links but rarely click out of google reader unless i want to comment these days. ff and twitter drive me to more new sites now. - Steve Long

This applies to those people in the thick of the blogosphere and social media, NOT to the rest of the people on the Web who don't know what all this newfangled Web 2.0 stuff is. And quite frankly, that's a good 99% of the people getting online. - Wendy

Scoble made a funny. - Brian Ries

Oh, and hilariously enough this post is now "linked to" on Techmeme: http://tinyurl.com/57kfzy - Brian Ries

Now that is ironic! ha! - Susan Beebe

I believe I agree with the change of discovery of content, but in the end it's still a link whether it's from a blog or from an aggregator such as FriendFeed - I still click on a link. We are simply adding multiple layers (shared thru Google Reader -> FriendFeed -> actual content). - simonpure

There's no irony of it being on Techmeme. I said that's where many people find their news... so it shows the system works. - Louis Gray

I do that quite often. - Judy Jones

Subscribe to Paul Dawson, he dumps RSS feeds at once around this time - Mona N

What's a good number you've had success with? I'm at about 300. - Hao Chen

Louis is right. I refresh hundreds of times per day. I can't remember the last time when nothing changed on the page. - Robert Scoble

My FF: Always good refresh:). See@Louis - Igor Poltavskiy

I wish there was NNTP version... - silpol

Okay, I'll find more. In the meantime, I have fftogo open in second window because FFi doesn't have an Everyone tab. - Hao Chen

silpol ack. but i would like that for rss and such as well. hm at least for rss there are nntp gateways ;) - Nicole Simon

Does not FF refresh by itself...so there is no need to manually refresh it...right?? - Arjun

Arjun: not via mobile (fftogo and ff iphone) - Mona N

true but the default is something like 2 mins. That's a long time in Internet time! - Hao Chen

Especially on the everyone page, where every few seconds the whole page has new entries. - Peter Stuifzand

When you'll stay up all night, just because you were getting a good debate going, and all the other debaters are 6 or more hours out of sync with your british ass. - Slippy Lane

That's the most terrible feeling in the world... Noooooooez! - Susan Beebe

Google Reader is the big one for me as I find that on every page I view now I find myself going for the J button! - Joe Dawson

I just did that....oops - George Smith

Don't be fooled. If you are following more than 50 people, all the action is on the second page. The first page will be crowded with stories that are on an upward vector. - J. Phil

I've never refreshed and nothing happened. - Aaron Myers

*joins club* - xero

Hahaha it's so true. And then you do the same thing 5 minutes later. - ::Kristen::

you know you are addicted to friendfeed when you catch yourself making a game of trying to subscribe to a second person before the page refreshes form the first subscribe (i have only pulled it off once) - Marco

try ctrl-f5 ;) - Nicole Simon

Or when you're sitting reading this post thinking, "I should be doing work" - xero

Heh! I have the opposite. If I'm away from FF all day, I feel like I've missed everything! - Rob Williams

Scoble either uses a Greasemonkey script to 'auto like' or he's omnipresent. You decide. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

Matt: sleep? Does Google sleep? For those who don't know, Matt Cutts is my favorite Google employee and blogger. - Robert Scoble

hey, i have 50 Mb down and 20 Mb up. I'm doing fine ;) - Andru Edwards

FIOS is the only serious US option. Has not rolled out very far yet. Meanwhile, here in Asia, I've been soaking up 10 Mb FTTH for years. 10 up, 10 down. $35/mo. Silicon Valley, ya caint' touch dis'! - Steve Follmer via twhirl

20 down, 2 up here. I'm not complaining. But less than 3 miles away, my parents have ZERO options for broadband. - Spinn

I had a great FIOS phone call with Verizon the other day. They were trying to convince me to sign up, but they don't even have it rolled out here. Great job, guys! - Spinn

Funny, Rocky cut out what I said right before "who are you?" I told him he was the most hated man in America, cause everyone hates our cable companies. We had a good laugh about that. - Robert Scoble