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Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Thursday 10.30.14 LIVE recording at 9am PT/12pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Hello Gillmor Gangers! - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm barely up. Did someone win the World Series last night? :-) - Robert Scoble
morning - Kevin Marks
Yo. - J.C. Bouvier
so john and steve are across the road from scoble? - Kevin Marks
Yeah. - Robert Scoble
FB FY 15 CapEx anyone? - J.C. Bouvier
yay - Keith Teare
@Robert? if you had to pick only one newsreader app today, which would you pick? - J.C. Bouvier
Flipboard is adding 250K users a day? - J.C. Bouvier
what are the world series? - Jan Winter
I'm w/you Keith...I love the interface...my fear, and I think Flipboard's biggest problem is getting me to trust I'm not going to miss something...I shouldn't have to feel like I'm making a leap of faith when I use it. - J.C. Bouvier
can we get the TechCrunch show link into chat? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Right below my Friendfeed Feed is the interview with Scoble's cofounders! - John Taschek
Apple totally missed the boat on Newsstand...it's a bummer...I thought for sure they would release an magazine authoring tool and much better subscription integration...instead we got iBooks...I did notice they have included an ePub export from the new Pages now...maybe it's coming on that roadmap... - J.C. Bouvier
Hello gents... - Patrick Culleton
twitter lists aggregated via parper.li works fine for me - Jan Winter
dog photos is about all I post to facebook - Kevin Marks
I agree with Robert. I followed his instruction about FB lists.. and yes my feed became a lot better... - Patrick Culleton
+1 @Kevin Marks - Frank Paynter
Yep; lists work for Facebook. Would be interesting to see/change the +/- controls directly on each list but I'll leave it to Facebook to tune for now - Ian McGee
I agree with Kevin - when I read news, I read for highly accessible content and depth plus a bunch of scanning-type articles. Curation can potentially work against how I work -- Curation used to be for me, leisurely Sunday reading and for airplanes. - John Taschek
J.C. I would choose Flipboard because it brings nearly everything in (except for Ello). - Robert Scoble
Gotcha, tx Robert. - J.C. Bouvier
hyper-personalized culture means less flexible thinking. Surrounding yourself with others who think like you (your friends) and elevating that collective voice means less growth & learning. - Ann Greenberg
<3 cents per user - Jan Winter
What does the "gang" think of MS' move to release apps and tech that runs on all three OS platforms? - Patrick Culleton
RE: Kramer: ha ha...I haven't listened to their earnings call...but I will now...from an SMB online buyer perspective, and I've spent ~ $350K in Facebook - the ad tool/unit is still too complicated - and frankly the burn rate for dollars against that unit is too costly...I think I burned through $5k in side of half a day...they need a lower cost ad unit that produces a better ROI for... more... - J.C. Bouvier
Any views on ads in your Instagram feed starting now ? - Patrick Culleton
iPhone 6+ eating the iPad - Kevin Marks
Patrick: that's smart. - Robert Scoble
But I don't know that it will matter. Will an iOS developer switch from Apple's tools to Microsoft's? I doubt it. - Robert Scoble
Google is doing a great job of getting it's users to do it's OCR for it: their Captchas are now streetview address numbers. - Simon Tennant
Mobile eating the world - http://www.slideshare.net/a16z... - John Taschek
Who would know when you are banned everywhere in Dave Winers World...:( - Tony Stanislawski
I'm blocked by Winer on twitter too - Kevin Marks
I feel better Thanks Kevin..nice being in good company! - Tony Stanislawski
Dave pushes his articles out through social channels as well; Facebook, Twitter etc. - Ian McGee
sounds like you guys need a support group ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier
I have no respect for him anymore with his ban hammer! He was a great one, who is now a has been - Tony Stanislawski
He unblocked me, but it cost him. - Robert Scoble
I'm w/you Steve, I think Facebook is doing it... - J.C. Bouvier
I think withknown.com has a coherent way to combine the different post types and share them out too - Kevin Marks
apparently Steve and John do not share a room. Good to know ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
just trying to make you guys laugh a little - Tina Chase Gillmor
manipulative directing ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
LOL. One day I was interacting with him on both Facebook and Twitter, the next day I was banned. - Tony Stanislawski
getting stream dropouts here - Kevin Marks
and why? - Tina Chase Gillmor
finally get to join again... freaking hectic with my startup - Jerry Schuman
lost you - Kevin Marks
Was some talk about Facebook wanting to push publishers to post their content directly to Facebook hosted pages w/Facebook revenue sharing w/those that do...anyone catch that one? Saw it in the NYTimes I think... - J.C. Bouvier
bummed I couldn't get out to Half Moon Bay Ritz while I was up there so I could get Robert toasted. - Jerry Schuman
call dropped - Kevin Marks
Dave Winer 3.0 - Jerry Schuman
his next announcement will be he's bringing back an outliner based on Instagram - Jerry Schuman
sorry.. had to be snarky about Dave - Jerry Schuman
Heyyyy, it's not Friday! Glad I found you today. It kinda feels like Friday - Laura Norvig
Jerry: you should come over. Gonna be a couple of weeks before I'm back at Ritz after lunch today, though. - Robert Scoble
had to fly back to LA this morning... we were just up for a Siemens venture event for my company PingThings - Jerry Schuman
Next time though... I'll be back up at some point in the near future - Jerry Schuman
ok John - Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve - John waved off - Tina Chase Gillmor
Nice.. headphones that give you scalp massages - Jerry Schuman
I'm off - Kevin Marks
how is the outside leakage... ie... I listen really loud music... will my seat mate on a plane get pissed? - Jerry Schuman
Jerry: not bad. - Robert Scoble
I'll have to go check those out.... it's the one feature that they really don't talk about. - Jerry Schuman
Nice to catch you guys...have a great weekend... - J.C. Bouvier
Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
Good show - Ian McGee
Glad to see and chat with everyone again... been awhile for me - Jerry Schuman
Steve and his self deprecation.... - Jerry Schuman
Thanks for another good show... - Frank Paynter
Hi Tina... bye Tina... hope you're all doing well. - Jerry Schuman
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Friday 10.24.14 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Yup. This is the chat for Gillmor Gang happening at the top of the hour. 1pm PT - Tina Chase Gillmor
Here - Keith Teare
Present! - Chris Hale
Ready to learn. :) - Zachary Grant
booting up the guys - Tina Chase Gillmor
happy Friday, everybody! - Jerome Hughes
I'm here. - Robert Scoble
Evening all - Darren James
Robert. I am interested to hear today about what tools you are playing with these days for email mgt and also maybe contact mgt. Since you deal with a flood of email, i really value your input - Chris Hale
I'm using Google's new Inbox almost exclusively now. - Robert Scoble
Hi all - Tom Guarriello
I LOVE the is chat community. one of my very fav places and peeps - Tina Chase Gillmor
What up Tina G? You are awesome peeps as well! - Chris Hale
@robert, i put in for an invite to Google Inbox. hopefully it will arrive soon. - Chris Hale
This is why i like the 1pm start as its nice to be able to follow the chat feed - Darren James
I got inbox too...I wish it would support Google Apps so I could use it with my work email - Tony Stanislawski
hmm, @Tony, have you seen them say anything about plans to support google apps? - Chris Hale
Invites for inbox anybody? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
No but this is what they usually do with new Apps - Tony Stanislawski
First Ebola reference by Steve! - Tom Guarriello
yeah, anybody got any open invites? - Chris Hale
Hey sure - Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple pay is out now in other tech news - Chris Hale
I do not either! - Tony Stanislawski
Hiya - Ian Waring
I do not think the Inbox is the different. It just puts labels front and center - Tony Stanislawski
And nobody's there...Ello... - Tom Guarriello
Worked in Princeton - Tom Guarriello
I quite enjoyed Steve Ballmer on Charlie Rose.... - Alex de Soto
Facebook Rooms - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I haven't opened elli in a few weeks - Tina Chase Gillmor
meant ello - Tina Chase Gillmor
Zuckerberg talks Mandarin... - Ian Waring
Oh, hai, gang. Friday already? - Laura Norvig
Napsters is the original culprit - Tony Stanislawski
@Ludwig, I may have an invite...if they offer them...one sec will check. - J.C. Bouvier
Elections in less than 2 weeks - Tony Stanislawski
Amazon should have kept away from Hardware. They should have released their Software Services as Mobile Apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Bob Lefsetz on selling music in era of no gold albums http://lefsetz.com/wordpre... - Tom Guarriello
I think Amazon would have been better off using Google Play instead of doing its own service. - John Taschek
The Google Exec beat Felix Baumgartners jump from Space - Tony Stanislawski
Yo on my iPhone should be reporting Pmarca tweetstorms, silent now for a few weeks.. - Ian Waring
Yah, Ludwig, what email? - J.C. Bouvier
Same for me, Ian - Tom Guarriello
None of other FB apps got traction...except MESG when people were forced to adopt - Tony Stanislawski
Ludwig.ederle@gmail.com. Thx! - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
sure, np. - J.C. Bouvier
Anonymity is hot, apparently. Not a big fan except in certain specific contexts. Yik Yak is weird, #gamergate sucks. - Laura Norvig
Wow, cool. Thx J. C. I only have an invite to Stuttgart/Germany for you :) - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
i have not been successful yet. not sure why - Tina Chase Gillmor
VIP Rooms - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I am in - Tony Stanislawski
I think its gonna be something. I just can't get it to work for me yet - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina - did you download the app, and then use the camera to take a photo of the code? - John Taschek
Not a screen grab... - John Taschek
i did a creen grab - Tina Chase Gillmor
screen grab - Tina Chase Gillmor
Take a photo - John Taschek
It's using the popularity of photo taking -- and then take the photo of the QR code. - John Taschek
In the App - Tony Stanislawski
And to keep it private...not shared with everyone... - Tony Stanislawski
That is what I did Keith - Tony Stanislawski
Chat Rollette Rooms - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Don't give Steve Inbox...:) - Tony Stanislawski
Steve is making his guests need https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Laura Norvig
What's the app name on the App Store? - Ian Waring
57 Rooms. And Nothing Going On - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Funny comments :) - John Taschek
Link to Rooms is here. https://itunes.apple.com/us... - John Taschek
Apple SIM dead cuz VZW and AT&T say No - Da
Nice one Moe. - Zachary Grant
Its an optical implementation of continuity, a way of moving a deep link across devices, and apps so long as they can render images. Feels clunky to me. - Simon Benvenutto
there is a room for all of Scoble blocked FB people...:) - Tony Stanislawski
dude, i am just now falling in love with IRC again - Chris Hale
You mean the place where I go for my Movies...USENET... - Tony Stanislawski
Keith is so right on about 1) app silos and 2) the need for niche-specific conversations. - Laura Norvig
For software development , I have made lots of friends lately on IRC. I have learned tons using it - Chris Hale
I agree Laura -- the forums from CompuServe, Prodigy, Usenet, BIX, and where I worked -- The Source - were very important. - John Taschek
trying to use iPad but cant seem to take picture - Darren James
But Scoble is also right. There is a Lord of the Flies effect that happens over time - John Taschek
In order for chat rooms to be useful they need to heavily moderated - Tony Stanislawski
Which most are not willing to do - Tony Stanislawski
I guess that's why really great forums often have a bit of moderation. Pinned FAQs, reminding n00bs to go elsewhere ... - Laura Norvig
Has Kevin set up his I Love Android Room yet? - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think they need to be automatically archived with intelligent systems - John Taschek
avsforums are great - Tony Stanislawski
Link Keith? - Tony Stanislawski
Ello sucks! - Tony Stanislawski
Perhaps Brian Wilson has set up his VIP "In My Room" - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Everybody gets their name on these new services and then go back to Twitter - Tom Guarriello
@John @Keith: Kevin Marks link a few weeks ago still cracks me up regarding Ello. I'm originally from Chingford and remember it being played as a youngster: http://youtu.be/hhHJ4zEKDZY - Darren James
Cute - Robert Scoble dances when he uses his standing desk - Tina Chase Gillmor
:-) It keeps me from talking too much. - Robert Scoble
Installed - any invites into a room? - Ian Waring
Can't do THAT on FriendFeed. Which is probably why Steve likes this. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
Link to Room, via John B - https://twitter.com/Borthwi... - John Taschek
Just hold up a pic - that'll do it! - Ian Waring
Sorry Tony - can't remember what link you need - Keith Teare
The one you mentioned a few minutes ago..A blog posting - Tony Stanislawski
Keith you quoted it. - Tony Stanislawski
Most of the stuff that Facebook Labs have launched on Mobile has flopped. No wonder why they had to acquire both Instagram & WhatsApp - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Somebody better walk me through the FB rooms app. I have QR code in my photos but can't do anything else. Im on 7.0.2 btw. don't ask ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Have you guys discussed Venmo here? I thought this post was pretty interesting - saw it right about the same time I started hearing about Venmo everywhere http://www.zeigen.com/blog... (sort of apropos of identity) - Laura Norvig
Any thoughts on Pinterest. Back in the UK no one uses it. The Gang hardly ever mentions it - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i just started using pinterest a little bit recently - Chris Hale
i clip mobile app uis i like - Chris Hale
I teach Twitter to students. Once I explain it to them, get them to follow at least 100 people, most of them have switch turn on and see its value... - Tony Stanislawski
I think that is Twitters biggest issue - Tony Stanislawski
Borthwick knew!! - Tom Guarriello
I found out about FB Rooms from Yo. - Alex de Soto
Yo could be the conductor for the Messaging Bus - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Robert stop talking about it. I do not have it yet and jealous! - Tony Stanislawski
My Yo has gone mute for several weeks - Ian Waring
That feature is pretty cool. It will make it easier for me to meet up with you when you are in town - Chris Hale
My iPad Mini doesn't like the Rooms invite :-( - Ian Waring
Saves having to post on FB where you are and what you are doing - Chris Hale
RObert - do you use the voice part of FB Messenger? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Does anyone else here have this feature on FB mobile....??? - Tony Stanislawski
I totally agree with Robert on the privacy thing and advertising location - Chris Hale
I think that is a no-brainer for young folks - phones help them connect IRL big time. - Laura Norvig
I have had a lot of fun adventures by virtue of knowing where friends and acquaintences are in real time - Chris Hale
Tina: yes. - Robert Scoble
I signed in and posted a photo - Tom Guarriello
@Laura Yup, the students I interact with on a daily basis would be lost without their phone - Zachary Grant
do we all shift to personal datastore's: camlistore.org metaphor on phones? - clive boulton
robert - I haven't been. Rebecca Woodcock talked about using it on G3 today - Tina Chase Gillmor
I mostly use it where voice is more appropriate. If I'm hanging out with a famous music star you will REALLY appreciate the voice. - Robert Scoble
Facebook develops Channels. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Notifications - the end of Apps: https://twitter.com/jtasche... - John Taschek
Facebook has become a branded house http://intheimage.com/blog... - Tom Guarriello
Many Facebook big blue accounts look dead to me - clive boulton
Youngsters have FB accounts, but use other apps to message - clive boulton
Some break prime time others turn into Test Card Channels - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Teens use brand mentions and links to game the FB algorithm so they end up prominently on their friends timelines. - Alex de Soto
My bot boys!!! - Tom Guarriello
boy am i mad that i can't get in there. cool that we are trying this out together in real time tho - Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook should dump Paper and acquire Flipboard - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i love flipboard. I hope they stay independent. I think facebook would ruin Flipboard - Chris Hale
it would destroy flipboards credibility in my eyes. - Chris Hale
I do have an invite to Inbox first email posted gets it - Tony Stanislawski
Does Flipboard have credibility? It's a design-based reader. - John Taschek
tina@gillmor.com - Tina Chase Gillmor
John: yes. Flipboard's founders will be here in an hour. It is MASSIVE. - Robert Scoble
Anybody have any Inbox invites? - Tom Guarriello
when i say credibility, i guess i am implying about the quality of the stories and news they curate that i really like - Chris Hale
Tom, you need to get them from Google. - Robert Scoble
doh! pwnd by Tina! Would love an invite - Laura Norvig
Sent Tina! - Tony Stanislawski
I applied, Robert. - Tom Guarriello
Got another for anyone that wants one - Tony Stanislawski
Chris - possibly. Robert - credibility isn't popularity - John Taschek
if fb bought them, i would expect the news to be manipulated a bit in a way that is geared to sell stuff to me - Chris Hale
thanks Tony. I'll get it later but many thanks - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tony - Tom Guarriello
laura.norvig at the gee mail - Laura Norvig
Economist vs USA Today vs blog - John Taschek
of course this is all theory - Chris Hale
Tom dot guarriello at gee mail - Tom Guarriello
but i find a lot of value in the quality of there curated news topics - Chris Hale
it saves me uselessly having to cull through articles on my own - Chris Hale
Chris - good point. Quality is true. It's very accessible. - John Taschek
Sent Laura and Tom - Tony Stanislawski
I have no more invites sorry - Tony Stanislawski
Big blue activity more around social brands like Scobilzer is, far less around youngsters. - clive boulton
thanks, Tony! stoked. - Laura Norvig
Curation is an important and somewhat lost talent - John Taschek
it is a huge time saver fo rme - Chris Hale
Thanks, Tony - Tom Guarriello
I agree John. - Chris Hale
I had two invites. Tom and Tina are in. Sorry no more. - Robert Scoble
I never thought well curated news would become important to me but now that i am super busy and dont have time to flip through a lot of it, it is a nice time saver for me to have well curated news - Chris Hale
Human curation vs. machine curation is still an epic battle. I vote for humans. - Laura Norvig
Flipboard is the only App that creates relative Display Advertising that feels supplementary - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Chris: Flipboard is moving toward machine learning, with human help. - Robert Scoble
plus it is helping me build my own brand and followers because i can clip things and create my own magazine - Chris Hale
One of Twitters issues is onboarding... - Tony Stanislawski
I helps me to aspire to be scobleesque in curating tech news people might care about - Chris Hale
like Twitter groups - Tina Chase Gillmor
A master of curating content about curation = http://curation.masternewmedia.org/ - Laura Norvig
Machine learning will win, algorithms for the most important news should be fairly easy. The obstacles now are the content creators and the economics of paywalls - John Taschek
Touch ID + 1 Password in iOS8.1 = Big win - Tom Guarriello
Anybody else lost video feed? - Darren James
@Tom, why do you like it? - Chris Hale
I use lastpass with two factor auth. I used to have 1password - Chris Hale
Re: curation. Great story: The Laborers Who Keep Dick Pics and Beheadings Out of Your Facebook Feed http://www.wired.com/2014... - christina sponselli
So easy to sign in to anything, Chris. - Tom Guarriello
Alpha House - Tom Guarriello
John, I like to read commentaries about, and synopses of, curated content that have a definite point of view. - Laura Norvig
Ok in London Darren - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Got to run...Good show! Have a good weekend! Go Giant for my SFO friends... - Tony Stanislawski
The commentaries will still exist. The machine learning will take the best people to that content, and help them promote their new content - John Taschek
Thanks for the invite, Tony - Tom Guarriello
sneeze me. sorry - Tina Chase Gillmor
Christina, cool story! - Laura Norvig
inbox invite; a big android app 36.05MB - clive boulton
Did they have an IOS version of Inbox yet? - Chris Hale
Chris: yes. I only use iOS. - Robert Scoble
Yes... - J.C. Bouvier
Yes, Chris. Just downloaded it - Tom Guarriello
@Moe: Strange, Internet working fine but Ustream not working for me ;-( - Darren James
I think I have at least one more Inbox invite if anyone needs it - J.C. Bouvier
JC, I need one - Chris Hale
I could use an invite ... john.taschek@gmail.com - John Taschek
Pick me, pick me - Chris Hale
txninja@gmail.com - Chris Hale
Pick Chris - - John Taschek
John T, you rock - Chris Hale
How come you arent on the show more often these days? Just busy with work? - Chris Hale
Back up...Strange! - Darren James
Steve, you run a custom tweetstream using Tweetdeck, which is where you can curate it. - christina sponselli
Chris/John, look for your invites...says both were sent. - J.C. Bouvier
Just forwarded you one, John T - Tom Guarriello
Thank you JC!!! - Chris Hale
This topic you GG is talking about is super interesting to me. - Chris Hale
Cord shavers, FTW - Tom Guarriello
I think i commented last week about this. I think cell companies are going to start favoring traffic for certain services like these - Chris Hale
yes I just got into Rooms. Shot a photo from my monitor of the invite QR - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think this is going to be used as cell company feature differentiation - Chris Hale
Props to Google two-step touch USB: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014... - clive boulton
Robert just got my cold ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Lol, Tina! - Tom Guarriello
Yeah, i was happy to see that Clive. I have a yubikey i use for two factor auth - Chris Hale
Gesundheit! - Alex de Soto
These TV moves will get Apple to ramp up their TV Hobby. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Sports is the big shoe to drop... - Tom Guarriello
two factor touch should stop celebrity hacking (if they use it) - clive boulton
I agree Tom - Chris Hale
The soggy middle of cable networks... - Tom Guarriello
Just saw Mischa's mother's sculpture exhibition at a Gallery in DC, Keith. She was interesting. - Tom Guarriello
Thank you J.C. - and Thanks, Tom - Chris - did you get one? - John Taschek
Yes, i got one - Chris Hale
Watched shows streamed online. Usually same 2-3 ads on continuous repeat. Looks like advertisers aren't sold on concept...yet. - christina sponselli
Here's the link to Mischa's mother's exhibit, Keith http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifesty... - Tom Guarriello
Been listening to this in the car. It's the best show in a long time! - Francine Hardaway
Speaking of calendaring. What do folks use for calendering?? - Chris Hale
Anxious to try Rooms now. - Francine Hardaway
I am starting to use calendly - Chris Hale
and hoping to find something similar but cheaper - Chris Hale
please send jromeh@gmail.com an Inbox invite, too, thanks in advance - Jerome Hughes
I have totally switched over to Inbox.I love it - Francine Hardaway
anybody have any cool calendar solutions they endorse? Robert, John? - Chris Hale
Tempo. - Robert Scoble
FB used machine learning to build a service for deceased members with public profiles (I think it's been buried) [looking for the linky] - clive boulton
Deep learning, for sure, Dan. - Tom Guarriello
I use Google Calendar for everything -- but I try many.. Like Sunrise, Cal, etc. and eventually I don't find the value of a non-integrated solution. - John Taschek
Inbox looks great - it's perfect for what I do. In fact, it does what I do without me having to do it. - John Taschek
Google X is becoming Skynet - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Emotion recognition engines... - Tom Guarriello
Has anyone read Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom? Wow! - Tom Guarriello
Well, the missing link i am looking for is a decent service i can use to tell people publicly my availability so they can schedule time with me - Chris Hale
You can publish Google calendars - John Taschek
calendly does a decent job but 10 bucks a month is a little more expensive than i feel its worth. - Chris Hale
John. I might have to dig into my google calendar a little deeper. - Chris Hale
Thank you guys for your insight on that - Chris Hale
How do I get into that Room????? - Francine Hardaway
Fun GG...Hi Tina! - Tom Guarriello
Thanks, everyone! - Robert Scoble
Francine, see the QR-like image above in stream - Tom Guarriello
Agreed with Steve's sentiment. - Chris Hale
Have a great weekend! - Alex de Soto
A little more Alexia T would also be a welcome addition - Chris Hale
Great show once again - Moe Glitz from iPhone
yay Francine - clive boulton
I haven't seen any images. - Francine Hardaway
Someone put one up - Francine Hardaway
It's a link, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Alexia will neon soon. She's been crazy busy with TC Disrupt and London events - Tina Chase Gillmor
awesome news - Chris Hale
so am i missing something. Are folks playing around in FB room right now? - Chris Hale
open the app and say you have one of those, focus on it and you're in - Jerome Hughes
If one of you fine folks sent me an Inbox invitation... Thank You! - Alex de Soto
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Friday 10.17.14 LIVE recording at 9am PT/12pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Here - Keith Teare
OK will bring you in soon Keith. Do you have your coffee? ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert Scoble? You here yet? - Tina Chase Gillmor
ketih calling you now - Tina Chase Gillmor
almost almost ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
morning - Kevin Marks
Almost here. :-) At least physically. - Robert Scoble
lost you - Kevin Marks
And we are on. Everything good? - Robert Scoble
wow, show is earlier than usual today - Chris Hale
Happy Belated Birthday Steve!! - Chris Hale
Um....5K - J.C. Bouvier
Iphone big ass - Chris Hale
Has it replaced your iPad Mini @Steve? - J.C. Bouvier
Hey Robert, what do you think about the new HTC devices, and the new Nexus 6? - Chris Hale
Lots happening in android land - Chris Hale
The Nexus 6 and Note 4 look awesome. - Robert Scoble
JC Steve "gave" me his iPad Mini a while ago. He's using the new phone A LOT - Tina Chase Gillmor
what kinda shocked me is that the nexus 6 is a motorola phone. The reason it shocked me is that one would have guessed that after google bought motorola it would have awarded a contract for nexus phones to motorola sooner. I just find it funny that motorola has built a nexus phone after they got sold to Lennovo - Chris Hale
TX @Tina. - J.C. Bouvier
oh, apologies in advance if I ramble today, I am working off of only 45 minutes of sleep over the last day - Chris Hale
Chris Hale - get some rest, Guy! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks @Tina but like the song says, "Aint no rest for the wicked" - Chris Hale
really wishing i could clone myself - Chris Hale
Robert or anyone from the GG , anybody have thoughts about that new HTC action camera? Anyone seen one? - Chris Hale
I haven't. - Robert Scoble
craptic - Chris Hale
lol - Chris Hale
I did NOT see them in 1965 ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Brian Wilson did come out for the BBC though: https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Kevin Marks
wow, 1965 that is -15 years before my Born on date - Chris Hale
well you're a puppy Chris H. ! Lucky you - Tina Chase Gillmor
So I just bought a fitbit this week. Figures the week i decided to buy one is the week that apple is booting the devices from retail stores - Chris Hale
Tina I am frozen - Keith Teare
Robert spies on people's computer screen... research, you know - Tina Chase Gillmor
If I close and reload Skype will you call me back - Keith Teare
too early for subtleties , Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
agree with where Steve is going with his comment - Chris Hale
Makes it sounds like you almost need an ability to do detailed searchs on your notifications - Chris Hale
I wholeheartedly endorse IFTTT as a service - Chris Hale
I like FB Messenger - Tina Chase Gillmor
thx Christina - Tina Chase Gillmor
we're recording today btw at 2pm-ish PT - Tina Chase Gillmor
Good quality recording today - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I dropped my landline number because it was only spam - Kevin Marks
Same here Kevin. Non stop PPI spam - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Isn't @mentions the same as Notifications - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Go Giants! - christina sponselli
there was something i saw in the news feeds about the new ipads that I think got downplayed . Apparently they are creating a new "Apple SIM" card i believe for the new ipads that allows you to jump on and off any cellular data provider you want to. Am i the only one who thinks this is huge news? A use case they describe is paying for a prepaid data plan in a foreign country. - Chris Hale
Oh no track - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Apple new services are much more groundbreaking than their new Products - Moe Glitz from iPhone
FB added emergency contact messaging. It will be interesting to see it used in a real emergency. - christina sponselli
Most people I know only use Facebook to goof around with family and friends. No one uses it for Social Media - Moe Glitz from iPhone
nobody has 5,000 friends :) - David Malone
I was totally shocked they didnt put NFC into the new ipads. - Chris Hale
So 4K is dead already - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Oh, here is another important newsworthy announcement. HBO announced they will be launching a plan next year that allows for subsciptions without having to have cable anymore - Chris Hale
and CBS is doing a steaming service - Tina Chase Gillmor
streaming - Tina Chase Gillmor
Just make all TV & Mobile Services as Apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I love that the new screen is so big no apple device has a camera with enough pixels to fill it - Kevin Marks
picking up the Note 4 on ATT from Best Buy today - Da from Android
its already starting to go that way - Chris Hale
This time of day is much better for us based in Dublin ... - David Malone
my iphone6 plus should be arriving hopefully today or monday - Chris Hale
I am wondering whether i will use it or my sony xperia z ultra more while i am on vacation in a week. - Chris Hale
I think the OnePlusOne looks good, much cheaper than the nexus 6 - Kevin Marks
David... yeah we like the early morning time here too but the energy of the Gang is a little lower due to not enough time to ingest enough coffee ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
apple has fixed the problem I complained about last year, but design thinking needs to catch up http://epeus.blogspot.com/2013... - Kevin Marks
I almost threw my iphone5s at the wall this week. Apple has some really crappy processes for developers. - Chris Hale
Steve, how is the battery life? - christina sponselli
OnePlusOne is just the beginning of Chinese phone push in US. - Da from Android
Huwei also makes a decent looking phone. Shocking that they are able to make phones as inexpensively as they have been - Chris Hale
i bet you anything you will start to see cell phone companies start to allow preferential treatment for data by service. Tmobile has started this recently since they allow all music apps to not count against your data plans. I bet you att or verizon will try and say , you can watch hbo without affecting your data cap. What do you think Robert? - Chris Hale
good for getting more phones in the hands of more people - Da from Android
yeah, how do I use this? ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
I use html - Kevin Marks
thats what I've been saying about iPhone size for a couple of years - Kevin Marks
there's a market to map beacons ... - David Malone
That is really cool Keith T! Is this some sort of open source initative? - Chris Hale
Keith... center yourself - Tina Chase Gillmor
Is he too much on the Android side Tina - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think Apple finally shipped my 2009 device wishlist http://epeus.blogspot.com/2009... - Kevin Marks
Beacons are super cool. I have an estimote kit. - Chris Hale
Love @scobelizer's 'how many of you have an iPhone' followed by 'how many of you have a beacon' at tech events. - Josh Bradshaw
Low energy bluetooth - David Malone
Apple still not pushing iBeacons at their Keynotes - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think beacons will revolutionize indoor location mapping - Chris Hale
amongst other things - Chris Hale
Lots of possibilities for home automation type things - Chris Hale
i might be behind a couple shows... but does the stream look amazing or is it just me? - Matthew Voshell
Beacons are revolutionizing the purchasing experience in Cafes in Downtown PA; the Downtown app puts this tech to work. http://worktechwork.wordpress.com/2014... - Josh Bradshaw
augmented reality plus beacons= awesomeness - Chris Hale
I believe most beacon apps are built to spam ... best to allow consumer to pull experiences ... - David Malone
Agreed Chris. - Josh Bradshaw
Beacon apps cannot be about spam. It gets too obtrusive. My phone's home screen is my personal property. More personal than junk mail in my mailbox, more personal than spam in my email. - Josh Bradshaw
The Internet of things - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Robert is right. I talked about this a few shows ago, I dont think education and socializing beacons value proposition has been done very well. I think it is still in a fragile enough state, someone could do something dumb and really turn people off to this wonderful technology. - Chris Hale
mastercard i saw is realeasing a fingerprint card but i doubt it being ubiquitous - Matthew Voshell
Like his songs - Moe Glitz from iPhone
If beacons=spam they will fail - Keith Teare
Will.i.am is a poser... and sold out to popular music.. they are jsut god awful live - Matthew Voshell
beacons will be a simple waypoint with data that can be pulled - not pushed - Keith Teare
yes Keith. They have to be about enriching the experience. - Josh Bradshaw
i agree keith. I think the problem will be how to broker notifications and keep them from overwhelming someone. - Chris Hale
iPad Mini and iPod Touch are dying products - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Tina... what are the books in front of steve? - Matthew Voshell
Robert is right. Some people still want small phones because they are unwilling to give up their skinny jeans. - Chris Hale
Keith , agreed, we're developing a 'pull' mechanism by altering the power amplification in conjunction with the gyro sense in the device - David Malone
yea apple has TOO many products... ala gil times... they need to focus a tad more... like eating software bugs.. are they stretching thin? - Matthew Voshell
off topic... but i saw a very healthy looking coyote outside this morning - Tina Chase Gillmor
Software can save the planet - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The pencil is a history. - Nir Ben Yona
Apples QA processes lately are shockingly bad. I really wonder how they are letting things slip in the way they have - Chris Hale
Tina, shoutout to Ptown - christina sponselli
apple still boasts its environmental checklist... kinda glossed over it.. but they still mention it - Matthew Voshell
if any company has the money to rectify that situation, apple does. - Chris Hale
Chris, I agree iOS 8 drops keyboards for inputs across messaging, etc - David Malone
@Chris... seriously.. what's with the skinny jeans.. you dont need to see the outline of my junk haha - Matthew Voshell
Apple is turning into a regular company with committees and politics. When teams can't work together effectively bugs creep in. - Robert Scoble
i absolutely hate skinny jeans and i live in austin where I make fun of all the hipsters that wear them - Chris Hale
ROI of 6 months.. thats what Corps want... - Matthew Voshell
NYC mayor decided to remove beacons from 500 payphones because of privacy; this is a beacon fail http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article... - Josh Bradshaw
Tesla are talking about wind powered charging stations - David Malone
their existing ones are solar powered - Kevin Marks
the only positive thing about skinny jeans is they squeeze everything tight enough to help prevent the wearer from being able to reproduce. No need to reproduce and fill the world with more hipsters - Chris Hale
Germany is doing a ton with wind power - Matthew Voshell
No mention of Google's latest earnings - Moe Glitz from iPhone
End of rant - Chris Hale
need more nuclear too - Kevin Marks
or Netflix missing earnings? they are really going after HBO now with orig programming AND stand up specials... remember the HBO special? netflix going right after it - Matthew Voshell
anybody hear that rebox/verizons streaming movie effort is going to go dark - Chris Hale
@Chris.. yea.. too saturated... that said i always see people at the boxes at my market.. they love the vending machine type - Matthew Voshell
Redbox got netflixed - Da from Android
Well I think the redbox stations will continue to be successful. - Chris Hale
I personally dont invest in apple or amazon or googles ecosystem for movies. I patronize Vudu. Really love vudu - Chris Hale
nuclear powered subs like in escape from LA? haha - Matthew Voshell
Solar would not work in Ireland, we need rain power ... - David Malone
As long as it's not iPhone batteries - Moe Glitz from iPhone
we always have some wind - Tina Chase Gillmor
David: hah, I'll be in Ireland in a few weeks. It sure is green there! Maybe we will need to buy water from you. We need water in California. - Robert Scoble
What about the server farms of top Fortune 500 companies? Need a solution as well. - Nir Ben Yona
Nir: Atom chips. :-) - Robert Scoble
LED lights are awesome. My whole apartment has LED lights. - Chris Hale
@Robert the Webb Summit, saw you in a bar last year .. will meet you for a Guinness - David Malone
Robert: Ha! As of Haswell :) - Nir Ben Yona
The ones where they convert energy from ocean waves is pretty amazing and that goes 24/7 :) - Matthew Voshell
i read something about mini nuclear reactors that can power a neighborhood and they get buried somewhere in the neighborhood. - Chris Hale
well, it has a cyclic factor too based on tides, which precesses daily - Kevin Marks
localized power generation based on local resources - Da from Android
I heard they were close to getting them legally able to be sold. It sounded pretty cool because the neighborhood gets together to purchase one and then all neighbors split the cost of it. - Chris Hale
And Arms Companies that feed off the political disruption in the Middle East - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Tina, this week Ustream is working a dream ... - David Malone
Steve, the whole viral icebucket challenge shows another successful crowd initiative - Chris Hale
crowd source democracy through affordable mobile devices - Da from Android
Eurppe is more - Kevin Marks
germany has huge solar growth - Kevin Marks
i know power companies will pay you if you put solar panels on your house... they could easily crowd source energy from thier subscrubers - Matthew Voshell
@Kevin... yea germany is way ahead they are doing really amazing things.. a country the builds things still - Matthew Voshell
they don't want to stop. geez - Tina Chase Gillmor
Have a great weekend all. - J.C. Bouvier
GO KC!!! - Matthew Voshell
great show .... - David Malone
get some Scotte wear over here - Tina Chase Gillmor
though Germany turned off nuclear - Kevin Marks
@Robert... is that an apple display laying on the floor? - Matthew Voshell
Great show guys and Ladies! Have a great weekend - Chris Hale
thanks everyone!!!! great weekend. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Matthew: yes. It's a dead display, gotta take it back. - Robert Scoble
Great show, thanks! - Robert Scoble
Salesforce Niel young - Al Gore Youtube: http://youtu.be/QBwsEaPunVU - Arnie Klaus
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I know you're going to OD on Apple, but don't forget to talk about Ello. I have a strange feeling it is really catching on, and once the news media says it is, more and more people will go. Not yet a threat to FB, but could threaten G+ or even LI - Francine Hardaway
Does anyone have an invite to Ello? - Tony Stanislawski
I do. What's your email? - Robert Scoble
politicalpunk@gmail.com - Tony Stanislawski
Thank you Robert! - Tony Stanislawski
hi, can you please send another to jromeh@gmail.com ? thanks in advance! - Jerome Hughes
Testes, testes, 1, 2. - Doc
Tony you are in. - Robert Scoble
So are you Jerome. - Robert Scoble
thanks! - Jerome Hughes
Here! - Chris Hale
And the dogs just went wild when Tina said mute was off - Francine Hardaway
Hey Doc! - Tom Guarriello
last? - Kevin Marks
The new iFlex 6 phone from apple. Not big-ass ready, alas. - Doc
what am I then? - Kevin Marks
does it bend? less bugs? - Da from Android
No Kevin? - Tom Guarriello
new iphone joke. Is that an iphone 6plus in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? ROFL - Chris Hale
I'm here, just not intorduced - Kevin Marks
Hi Kevin! - Tom Guarriello
weak. Why no mention of Kevin! - Chris Hale
hey , my bday was this week as well - Chris Hale
Heia, ello invite anybody? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
ooops. I walked into the shot. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Me too...LOL - Tony Stanislawski
Wow, no problems here with a Baby 6 - Tom Guarriello
iOS 8.0 works great on my iPhone 5s. How cheap are those now? - Doc
I have had wifi issues with IOS 8 all during beta - Chris Hale
Happy birthday Chris Hale - Tina Chase Gillmor
Thank you so much Tina! - Chris Hale
Ludwig: what's your email address? - Robert Scoble
You rock - Chris Hale
Im like John T. norush - Tina Chase Gillmor
Actually I like having a "small" phone. The 5S is a solid thing. - Doc
My iOS iphone 6 combo is doing great - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Truth told, I like the feel of the 5s more than the Slippery 6, which I now have to put in a case - Tom Guarriello
wow my fingers are not working today - Tina Chase Gillmor
I also gave away my iPad. I can use the 6+ - Francine Hardaway
Movies, reading, surfing - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Here :) - Nir Ben Yona
Oh it's bendable. I bent the + in the store no problem. - Todd Hoff
Apple is less and less magical - Da from Android
Call me back. - Robert Scoble
Ludwig@ederle.de, Robert - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Just died. - Robert Scoble
Can't we have more "in your pants" jokes? - Doc
Haha. Tiny thing in your pocket vs large thing in your lap. ROFL Kevin - Chris Hale
Sorry, its Friday humor - Chris Hale
it just works, until it doesn't - Da from Android
Ludwig: just invited you. - Robert Scoble
Robert - Send me an Ello too - Keith Teare
Need email address. - Robert Scoble
can someone check if this is streaming on TechCrunch - Tina Chase Gillmor
Should there be three versions of apps: iPad, iPhone and iPhablet? - Doc
Finally got my Moto 360 watch this week. It works most of the time. Still kinda clumsy to use - Chris Hale
Interesting social side note. More women have noticed and asked about the watch than men - Chris Hale
How about the Bash Shell Shock vulnerability? - christina sponselli
Doc, I care about Health Kit. I just came from Health 2.0 and everyone was going to be included - Francine Hardaway
I saw some folks in my Facebook stream complaining about serious Ello harassment. - Tom Guarriello
I haven't tried it - Kevin Marks
Ello harrassment? - Francine Hardaway
Facebook bought WhatsApp to finish their messenger suite and complete their independence from Microsoft/Skype. #skypeschildren - Phil Wolff
iOS only; voice focused not in my center - Kevin Marks
That's what I saw in my stream, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Yes, Francine. Thanks. It's freaking huge. Think of all the medical research trials that can be done, using the accelerometer alone. I've talked to a number (2) of developers about that. They're jazzed. - Doc
Talko didn't impress me - Francine Hardaway
is this streaming through TechCrunch? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Without charging for Communication Services how will these Apps make any money - Moe Glitz from iPhone
first is email spam. second is malware bots... - Doc
They're beginning to be able to predict certain diseases like Parkinson's or diabetes from locomotor signals, Doc - Francine Hardaway
Ads don't work on mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
add in translation of voice to text - Jerome Hughes
That's what I gather. I'm game. - Doc
Agree with Moe - Keith Teare
Thanks. Robert! I think nextdoor is more interesting, have you guys seen it? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Moe and Keith, read Don Marti on ads: http://zgp.org/~dmarti... Brilliant shit. Great guy too. He should be a guest here. - Doc
I'm on Nextdoor but find it sort of clumsy - Tina Chase Gillmor
Talko completely gets the idea that conversations aren't phone calls. Voice is both sync and asynch; starts before and continues after synch'd talk; team communication a la Slack (for collaboration more than 1-1 convos); all cloud (no p2p) so all voice/video can be annotated, interpreted, translated, munged to add value. - Phil Wolff
I know some people who like Talko. Haven't tried it yet. - Doc
Talko sounds like Chatter done granular - clive boulton
I like the passive aggression of Ray Ozzie coming out with Talko first on Apple. - Doc
i just heard apple taco. Sounds like an interesting possible food. Lol - Chris Hale
Is BBM dead? - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Talko is serious acquisition bait for Microsoft, Salesforce, or anyone that sells to business for collaboration. - Phil Wolff
Ballmer reportedly forbidding Apple devices for players on the Clippers. - Tom Guarriello
Heard Blackberry released there new phone the passport and it had 200k orders. Nothing really huge but still i guess worthy of being noted in chat - Chris Hale
Siri for talk-to-text is really good with iOS 8 - Doc
BBM is alive and kicking in Indonesia / Malaysia / Phillipines - clive boulton
My kids and nieces/nephews dislike speaking on the phone. I can't get anyone under 28 to pick up the phone. Well come to think of it nobody really wants to talk to me on the phone. Never mind. - Charlie Isaacs
I'm liking the Google Voice integration with Hangouts - Da from Android
I heard they're killing Google Voice... anyone else? - Charlie Isaacs
Larry has been CTO since day 1. Even when someone else held the CTO role. - clive boulton
its been a slow week for tech. - Chris Hale
folding Google Voice into Hangouts - Da from Android
nope, they're making it a feature rather than an app - Kevin Marks
There's a new Dumb and Dumber coming out, Dumb and Dumber To (yes, to) if you run out of things to talk about :-p - Charlie Isaacs
Seems pretty cool Keith . I will probably have to try it out - Chris Hale
chatting with Keith, though he doesn't know it yet. - Doc
How many people do you have working with you @Keith? - Chris Hale
Is wi-fi calling going to turn T-Mo / Apple into a new kind of telco - clive boulton
Been on Nextdoor since it started. But you guys aren't in my neighborhood:-) - Francine Hardaway
Chat got fucked when the big guys half-froze out XMPP/Jabber, back when. - Doc
phone numbers-- - Kevin Marks
So the best we can do is YACS. Yet Another Chat System - Doc
I love Keith's chat commercials.chat is nothing I really do anymore anywhere. Seems somewhat eighties to me - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
If folks can recieve the BBC iPlayer in your location than take a view at 'Terror at the Mall". So heartbreaking and unbelievable. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I can chat with guys to fix my pipes? ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
eStara used to do Click to Call pretty well, they were bought by Oracle - we also did that pretty well at Genesys; Avaya and Cisco do that too and there are about 20 CTI vendors that do Click-to-Call - Charlie Isaacs
Ain't tech great, Tina? - Tom Guarriello
He shouldn't do that on the road - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
on a related note Tina, this week I spoke to a company that wants to connect their endoscopes to the cloud - Charlie Isaacs
Click to chat is a natural line extension for Google AdWords. The client doesn't really matter; Google could pipe you to SMS, Hangouts, Whatsapp, et al. - Phil Wolff
i used to use meebo back in the day - Chris Hale
I used Meebo, Chris - Francine Hardaway
So imagine typing on the iPhone free apple watch in 2 years - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Chat=talk don't type - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
CCTV and citizen media show the true horror of 4 Terrorists murdering 71 innocent civilians inside a Kenyan Mall - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Google has the business relationships with web sites and experience helping merchants place ad snippets on pages. - Phil Wolff
Apple Watch free with a 2 year contract with you insurance company :-) - Carlos Cruz
Twitter was also over SMS. - Todd Hoff
Some nice quotable one-liners from Keith there. - Doc
My carrier t-mo still charges 10c per text on pay as you go - clive boulton
The weekly chat center show :) - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
he got some of that wrong - Tina Chase Gillmor
haha. - Chris Hale
Does Telegram fit in here somewhere? Its free and across platforms. - Hilary Talbot
sounds like someone is at the dentist (background noise) - Charlie Isaacs
Charlie Isaacs endoscopes will be obsolete in five years. Blood tests are replacing invasive tests like endoscapy - Francine Hardaway
what's that freakin noise? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Al Gore's series of tubes - Chris Hale
The universe is a big silo...that's what the string theorists say, right? - Tom Guarriello
Some Uber will reinvent Telex - clive boulton
it's not the endoscope that's uncomfortable, it's the stuff you have to drink prior to the procedure :) - Charlie Isaacs
but yes, you are correct Francine - Charlie Isaacs
I did't enjoy any part of the endoscope - clive boulton
Right. And there's a startup in SF, Exact Sciences, that delivers a 96% accurate colon diagnosis without all that. I just ordered one. FDA approved, Medicare eligible - Francine Hardaway
http://gizmodo.com/what-it... Things have not changed all that much! - Tony Stanislawski
you can connect Chatter to anything by connecting to IFTTT - there's a Chatter channel - Charlie Isaacs
that's good but it's still asilo - Kevin Marks
I like tiiny - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
it runs on salesforce servers - Kevin Marks
i really like how Microsofts mobile OS blended communication into a central hub - Chris Hale
My 17 year old son sends 2000 texts a month. He also spends half an hour on the phone, entirely with his parents. Once in awhile he looks at email, and responds as if by text. - Doc
XMPP had the rooms abstraction which was quite complicated to use. Rooms are gone from the simpler chat systems used now. - Todd Hoff
The Silo that wins is the one that provides Social Commerce - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm still using irc - Kevin Marks
IRC rocks. - Doc
that's my experience Doc - Charlie Isaacs
We've hardly started our work. Which is what? See? - Doc
we have pretty web irc now indiewebcamp.com/irc/today?beta#bottom - Kevin Marks
Anything that involves typing is going away imho - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
i use irc to talk to any open source project or online service provider i use - Chris Hale
+1 Ludwig - Tom Guarriello
I like silos. They hold silage. - Phil Wolff
is Heroku a silo too Kevin? how about AWS? It runs on Amazon's servers - Charlie Isaacs
heroku they enable me to run code and host things that run arbitrary code - Kevin Marks
Twitter is going toward that model but I think it will get lost amongst the Twitter audience. A standalone App for Social Commerce will win - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Pictures, Video & Voice. Typing is just a interstitial to explain pictures - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
That capitalism+democracy thing almost worked. Want a Fukiyama vs. Piketty smackdown. - Doc
so heroku is not a silo Kevin? I agree - Charlie Isaacs
Twilio is doing a great job bringing traditional telco services like SMS, MMS and corporate VoiP to the software developer community - Carlos Cruz
Somebody is dragging metal across a parking lot. - Doc
Time to reinvent cunieform - Doc
+ 1 Twilio - clive boulton
Languages are silos, Doc - Tom Guarriello
I am using twilio for one of my latest startup ideas. - Chris Hale
Michael Parekh, i believe. - Doc
It is purdy good - Chris Hale
Is there a dentist involved today? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Other topics: BASH+SECURITY 'BUG'; SWIFT ON SECURITY; GOVERNMENT'S WATERFALL PROCUREMENT FOR AGILE SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT - Phil Wolff
Robert, you're so quiet today - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Marc Canter. DUDE! - Doc
We're fixing an hole and there ain't no rain getting in - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Other topics: CAPS LOCKS - Charlie Isaacs
heh - Phil Wolff
Not really sure if this is the greatest forum for this but figure what the hey. Anybody know of any cool startups hiring for a telecommute dev. - Chris Hale
What's going on in the Googleverse lately? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Will apple approve personalized apps? - Todd Hoff
Chris: talk to me. Offline. Maybe something in the UK. - Doc
cool - Chris Hale
Does anyone can recommend a good case for the iPhone 6 Plus? - Nir Ben Yona
Keith is a thinker, I love that! - Tony Stanislawski
Google+ feels as if run by Microsoft or apple lately. Looks as if they had a problem there? - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
I like the Kenzo iPhone cases: https://www.google.com/search... - Doc
Keith's point is that innovation comes from the edge, right? - Tom Guarriello
Facebook ain't the edge, that's for sure. - Tom Guarriello
Google+ needs to be put down. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Huh, He is not very great symbol of being Social...Dave Winer I mean... - Tony Stanislawski
Doc, thanks I'll check 'em out. - Nir Ben Yona
After United's performance last week, Keith? - Tom Guarriello
Notifications that's the name of the game - Moe Glitz from iPhone
This just in: "A new iPhone software version (8.0.2) is available for the iPhone “Doc Searls’s iPhone”. Would you like to download it and update your iPhone now?" Y/N? - Doc
Keith is right about ManU - Tony Stanislawski
How are notifications any different than an inbox on your phone? - Todd Hoff
I'll be surprised if Dave Winer is still doing facebook development in 5 years. Especially if he starts to get traction with it. Watch for Facebook APIs to start changing... - Ian McGee
Notifications need to be curated (via machine learning) at an individual level. Otherwise will tend to be useless - Carlos Cruz
Notifications w/o tuning controls are the new email, - clive boulton
LOL Steve - Tony Stanislawski
Dave is just looping in Facebook. He's also dev'ing on DropBox and other places. But he's independent. - Doc
Ello now gives you emails when someone does something. - Francine Hardaway
Robert, have you lost weight/ - Doc
Dave is just having fun, Doc. He's doing his outliners and readers and editors like always, and just sending them places - Francine Hardaway
One solution would be a timer for your notifications that you could set... - Tony Stanislawski
Looking good! Method? - Doc
Hugely is right - Francine Hardaway
Keith, do you think LVG is humorously pompous? - Tom Guarriello
Agree about Dave, Doc & Francine. That's why I'll be surprised if he sticks with it. - Ian McGee
Tom - yes - Keith Teare
I get a kick out of his post-game interviews. He HATES British press! - Tom Guarriello
Android is fractured. - Doc
What do we want to be part of our internal conversation? That is the filter. - Arnie Klaus
Displaying on the home screen is merely a display option and that's a function of what apple allowed. But the idea is the same. In the olden days you would just pull up your email and watch the world go by. As everything sent mail as a form of notifications it was the same experience. And notifications suffer from the same pollution problems that inboxes suffer from. - Todd Hoff
my gmail is a great filter for notification across my androids and windows devices - Da from Android
i agree with Kevin. IOS is fragmented as well - Chris Hale
Cue Kevin - Moe Glitz from iPhone
is that a frequency generator in Doc's window sill? :) - Charlie Isaacs
We calculate 2x budget for android than iOS, usage still a fraction. Each $ earned costs 8 to 14 times more on android than iOS - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
Flipboard came out for Windows Phone and it does not even Flip! - Tony Stanislawski
Yesterday on my plane many, many people were using Android phones with big screens. First time I ever looked like Scoble always does. Many Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and 5s - Francine Hardaway
~85% Chin(a)ese have Android. Horses for courses! - clive boulton
that is a frequency receiver on my sill: an actual old-fashioned radio, with a dial and all. - Doc
Ello will be an interesting experiment for me...How much do I do no mobile vs. Desktop... - Tony Stanislawski
cool Doc - Charlie Isaacs
Taschek's Continuum: Happier-->Don't Leave-->Suck Less - Tom Guarriello
And the book with the curled cover is Halley's. - Doc
1.5% windows phone users, making 90% of the trouble:) 'where is the app for the 'leading OS' (being windows hahahaha) - Ludwig Ederle from iPhone
telling that Android One came out in India first - Da from Android
ello is a pain the neck on mobile - Kevin Marks
I dont understand elli yet. - Tina Chase Gillmor
meant ello - Tina Chase Gillmor
"Better than Evernote" is a tough concept for me to wrap my head around. I have so much stuff in there... - Tom Guarriello
ello is the Friendster experience fro a new generation - Kevin Marks
The important thing for Friday is Vivino was updated for IOS8 today! - Tony Stanislawski
The enterprise is becoming consumerized. - Francine Hardaway
I have a personal chip on my shoulder about evernote this week - Chris Hale
Gotta put the beep in there for many states - Tom Guarriello
Marc Andreesen seems to be pouring cold water on many ego driven start ups - Moe Glitz from iPhone
From Ello Manifesto - You are not a product. :-) - Carlos Cruz
yes, two party consent law JT, varies in different states, stricter state wins :) - Charlie Isaacs
Hey, what about the bubble, a16z and co are talking about lately. Have u discussed that? - Ludwig Ederle
Paleo - Arnie Klaus
Shiny objects. I'm not excited by Yo - Francine Hardaway
Maryam is starving him - Francine Hardaway
She wants to keep him alive - Francine Hardaway
Right, API piles. Exactly. - Francine Hardaway
I want all my apps for health to connect into one platform that connects to my doctor - Francine Hardaway
HomeKit is way behind health kit because not as many people have connected homes - Francine Hardaway
Francine - amen - Tina Chase Gillmor
IFTTT is getting to be much more important - Tom Guarriello
Francine: exactly. - Robert Scoble
NAME THE SHOW - Tina Chase Gillmor
Francine, i agree with you but I think you will see homes starting to get smarter over the next couple of years. Price and complexity of devices is going down and with the proliferation of watches and phones I think we have a way to control all these things with ease - Chris Hale
The quantified self is an huge area for innovation. Apple Watch is just the beginning. - Carlos Cruz
What apps work with Healthkit right now? - Tony Stanislawski
Ello Shitty, Tina? ;) - Tom Guarriello
Not if 1) you rent your home, or 2) you live in an older home that's not so easy to wire for all these connected devices, Chris - Francine Hardaway
IOS The new Borg - Arnie Klaus
gtg - Kevin Marks
dunno. My photo for my profile imported sideways. interface is weird, to me - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tony, there are new research apps, very vertical; plus many changes to existing apps, such as Nike's, Fitbit's, Digifit's... - Doc
iOS and Android are the 2borgs. - Doc
Continuous glucose monitoring, heart monitoring, otoscopes, all on apps right now - Francine Hardaway
Ello. This weeks Number One new App of the Week - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Diagnosis will be digital in less than five years - Francine Hardaway
I dont agree with that one francine. I rent my apartment and I know of tons of startups that are making home auto devices meant to retro fit into places you cant permantly wire things - Chris Hale
Ello now gets 38,000 registrations per hour, according to founder. - Nir Ben Yona
I watch that! I really like it. - Francine Hardaway
Clearly a failure, Nir. :-) - Doc
Great British Bake Off is a hoot for foodies - Tom Guarriello
It's easier to get to 1 million than it is to keep them. - John Taschek
Doc, It's an invitation only :) - Nir Ben Yona
There's too much to watch right now. Masters of Sex, Manhattan, Good Wife, and I watch Nashville (secretly) - Francine Hardaway
I keep my eye on all the kickstarter and indiegogo companies that are entering the home auto realm. there are tons of companies that are gearing up to release products - Chris Hale
Tina: Sobering Ello Shots - Charlie Isaacs
Chris, send me some I can use - Francine Hardaway
sure, what type of devices are you looking for? - Chris Hale
lockitron, august for door locks - Chris Hale
scoutalarm is just launching for home alarm systems. (Mine should be arriving next week) - Chris Hale
Here is one I am really excited to see come out at some point soon. http://www.myswitchmate.com/ - Chris Hale
it goes over your light switch and actuates it for you using an app - Chris Hale
Brivo Labs builds connected locks that are beacon-enabled; they run on "silo'd" salesforce :) - Charlie Isaacs
automated light i backed recently on kickstarter , https://www.kickstarter.com/project... - Chris Hale
good show. - Doc
Definitely. @doc how do i msg you privately? - Chris Hale
that's cool Chris - Charlie Isaacs
Rackspace sweet spot is PII data in the cloud. - clive boulton
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Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
Waiting for the famous call! - Robert Scoble
Ouch! - Nir Ben Yona
Oh! I could steal my wife's 6 Plus before she gets home and sell it to Steve but I dare not! - Alex de Soto
Keith is spot on, do it old style, not over air. - Simon Benvenutto
You can backup your iphone with iTunes and then restore to iOS 8. - Nir Ben Yona
Got my Galaxy S4 18 months ago so don't get the upgrade price for another 6 months... I was bummed until I realized the back-up for orders was probably through April 2015 anyway. - Frank Paynter
Dividing countries is not necessarily a bad idea btw - Ludwig Ederle
Multinational corporations and billionaire oligarchs luv them some divided countries - Frank Paynter
The Plus is really huge! Steve needs to try one first. - Alex de Soto
Robert, what time is it in Seoul? 5 am? - Ludwig Ederle
Zing!! - Tom Guarriello
5 a.m. Yes. - Robert Scoble
pal says foxconn's IP6 NQM running full tilt in vietnam, china, singapore. - clive boulton
iPhone 6 Plus dumb name. IPhone 6S much better - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Boy, got up early or all nighter? - Ludwig Ederle
What time is it Scoble? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Do they open their APIs? - Murray Macdonald
Robert's post here on the day of the iPhone launch was great: https://www.facebook.com/RobertS... - Alex de Soto
In effect Larry's been Oracle CTO since day 1, even when someone else had the CTO title. - clive boulton
Hiya - Ian Waring
I bet most of the apple purchasers are repeat customers. How many new users did Apple gain? - Murray Macdonald
I have the Gang running on my iPhone 6+ :-) - Ian Waring
Moto E, G, X is good lineup - clive boulton
So the story goes that the phablet thing is an Asian thing, culturally. I wonder if iPhone 6 plus will flip that. - Simon Benvenutto
Did you guys all get the +? - Ludwig Ederle
I moved from Nexus 5 to 6+ - Ian Waring
I wimped out and got the 6...but it's still on a UPS truck to be delivered today - Tom Guarriello
6+ is the same width as my Nexus 5 with cover, just 1/2" taller - Ian Waring
Almost forgot thie show this week! I was too busy setting up my iPhone 6 ;) - Matthew Voshell
Steve is so bummed he didn't come home with a phone today - Tina Chase Gillmor
we are going for the 6+ Ludwig - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Tina.. that's why you wake up at 4am!! - Matthew Voshell
With people not upgrading due to memory, fragmentation is going to be an issue. - Murray Macdonald
He'll get to appreciate it a lot more, when it does arrive :) - Simon Benvenutto
Android on Chrome will attract App developers https://www.polymer-project.org/apps... - clive boulton
Mine was delivered to my door 8:50am today - Ian Waring
I've been up since 12AM, but scored a 128GB 6, and so far so good... - J.C. Bouvier
Tim Cook stated the other day that Apple were working on Products that haven't even been rumoured yet. Any Thoughts - Moe Glitz from iPhone
In many stores they only offered only ONE iPhone 6 + device. - Nir Ben Yona
Matthew - Steve was up at 5am - Tina Chase Gillmor
I NEVER go through the carriers.... plus i dont think they offer applecare+ is a must - Matthew Voshell
@Tina... yea... there was a major issue this year.. it took 2 hours for me 2 to get through - Matthew Voshell
You can add AppleCare by visiting the Apple Store. - Alex de Soto
ALL Verizon iPhone 6 / 6 Plus devices come unlocked, no matter where you buy them. - Nir Ben Yona
I'm going from 5 to 6... my first time with Touch ID and as a Cyber Pro.. i'm loving it.. - Matthew Voshell
VERIZON is GSM as well. - Nir Ben Yona
Sounds like Apple store employees bonused by AT&T - clive boulton
LTE makes carriers not matter anymore... but if you drop to 4G.. then it does.. - Matthew Voshell
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited data on AT&T... ONLY reason i havent changed carriers - Matthew Voshell
Who is using the zoom feature? - J.C. Bouvier
Danny Sullivan tweeted about using a a Sprint unlocked iPhone 6 with AT&T and Verizon today. Had issues with 3G data on Verizon but the rest seemed to work. - Alex de Soto
Anyone else have an iPad with iOS8... and then get a landline call and have the iPad ring? Freaky! - Matthew Voshell
Tina: it's 5:26 a.m. here. - Robert Scoble
@matthew, not yet - J.C. Bouvier
Danny: "Verizon SIM in T-Mobile iPhone 6 let me make calls & data via LTE. With LTE off (3G), could make calls but no data." - Alex de Soto
you up early Scob - Tina Chase Gillmor
Keiths T-Mo purchase sounds the best way. - clive boulton
Most iPhones from carrier stores here lock onto the first telco they get enabled on. Those from Apple stay unlocked - Ian Waring
Show title: iPhone Whopper - christina sponselli
i'm 6'3" and im actually liking the iPhone 6 with the extra .7"? i'm not overtyping letters anymore - Matthew Voshell
iPhone Whopper (I'll take fries with that) - clive boulton
@Chritstina.. second that - Matthew Voshell
AT&T will pay you up to $300 for an iPhone 5s when you buy a new iPhone 6. - Alex de Soto
Doesn't anybody else find this bourgeois I got my Apple crap a little tedious? I was so over it by 1984... - Frank Paynter
How about those Ebay and Home Depot security problems? - Murray Macdonald
@Scoble... isnt korea entirely Wifi?? Whats the connection speeds like compared to back home? - Matthew Voshell
Verizon as I understand it still has a different implementation of LTE -- so data may not be LTE and voice may be or not. - John Taschek
Matthew: fast fast fast. - Robert Scoble
@Scoble.. so what your saying is the ISP have us by the balls? got it! ha - Matthew Voshell
new Moto X could be best Android ever made http://davemorin.com/post... - clive boulton
Just (Not) In Time... - Tom Guarriello
There are 200,000 workers building the new iPhones in China. - Alex de Soto
none wants to wait. waiting is no longer in our DNA - Tina Chase Gillmor
Korea is not entirely wifi but there is a LOT of wifi here. - Robert Scoble
Because limited supply drives up demand - Tom Guarriello
We the ipeople - Moe Glitz from iPhone
+1 Tom - Frank Paynter
There are rumors that iPhone 6 Plus yields are low. Quality issues. - Alex de Soto
Moto X should have high def voice - like a conference call - John Taschek
Or why not just wait until they have more ready to sell. they can estimate initial demand - Tina Chase Gillmor
drives demand - Tina Chase Gillmor
i love my older Moto X - Da from Android
By the way...be very careful opening up the iPhone 6 Plus box. The inset that holds the phone is a bit shallow and you can easily drop the phone. - Alex de Soto
Moto X, yes I can use high def voice for conf calls - clive boulton
The new iPhone works in the same way as the hot new Kiddies Xmas Present - Moe Glitz from iPhone
they're gonna say "I WANT IT SO BAD" - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Scoble... S.Korea is #1... US #10 http://www.xconomy.com/boston... - Matthew Voshell
And if you drop that monster on your foot! Hospital bills!~ - Frank Paynter
Surface 3 sold out as well, harhar - Ludwig Ederle
snail mail just arrived in the studio! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Like that Arnie Movie. "Apple All The Way" - Moe Glitz from iPhone
moore's law has flattened specs... now its about the ecosystem - Matthew Voshell
I don't think we need to talk about this on G3 today. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Today I connected my Glass to my iPhone 5s. Giving it a shot after iOS 8 update. - Alex de Soto
+1 Matthew - John Taschek
All 10 Ludwig - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Brand, brand, brand... - Tom Guarriello
how did that go, Alex? - Tina Chase Gillmor
They had so many, Moe Glitz? - Ludwig Ederle
@Tashcek... but i don;t think samsung has accepted this.. they constanyly talk about specs in thier keynotes... apple hardly mentions it anymore - Matthew Voshell
Tina: Shaky. Does not handle the handoff between WiFi and Bluetooth on iOS well. I'm testing for a week. - Alex de Soto
Any thoughts on Microsoft buying Minecraft - Moe Glitz from iPhone
https://www.facebook.com/chrisvo... but there will be many other comparisons shortly. Wait to see what Marques Brownlee does. - Robert Scoble
I think that's why they fired/he resigned the design chief. But the marketing department is still Apple envy - John Taschek
all my nieces have ipod touches and iphones... so i talk to them through imessage... why would i leave? - Matthew Voshell
@moe... 4 years too late.. clones on the way - Matthew Voshell
Nexus 6 may be based on Moto X http://www.androidpit.com/iphone-... - clive boulton
People are lining up all over the world to get this. Who else can even come close to that?? - Tom Guarriello
@Taschek.. yea if the best commercials you can come up with to convince people to buy your product is to attack your competition... people hate negative ads... gotta bring more to the table - Matthew Voshell
Android Silver program stalled - carriers not wanting pop up Android Genius Bars in Shopping Centers - Ian Waring
can't make enough = not charging enough - Jerome Hughes
negative ads tend to gain attention though -- political, technology, etc. But the longer term effects are damaging. - John Taschek
VIDEO -- Apple iPhone 6 Plus vs OnePlus One and LG G3 http://youtu.be/7UwabjvhgVE - Nir Ben Yona
The positioning (on privacy) by Tim Cook is pretty persuasive: "Our business is not based on having information about you. You’re not our product." - Alex de Soto
They're doing it on purpose to show demand. It's like Studio 54 being empty once you get inside. - Murray Macdonald
the new frontier… variable pricing - Jerome Hughes
introduced with the watch - Jerome Hughes
I'm sick for getting up at 3 am (EDT) to order my wife's. - Alex de Soto
Sell one to Steve? - J.C. Bouvier
From my experience, in India, iPhone is still very much an 'Object of desire', if given a choice either by reducing the price or if the purchasing power increases, most of the Andorid user will shift to iPhone in a moment here. - Satyajit
It's only $1100 or so on ebay - http://www.ebay.com/itm... - John Taschek
Sick fan boy and a nobody with big breasts? Not true! - Alex de Soto
@Tina.. does steve own a tent? should have had your daughter camp out! - Matthew Voshell
Is this whole show going to be about iPhone purchasing? No mention on Home Depot? No mention of Ebay Cross-site scripting hack since Feb? - Murray Macdonald
without Google and Facebook services, devices are paperweight - Da from Android
I ordered one cause my 5 wouldnt lay flat... it had a fight with my car door ;( - Matthew Voshell
Minecraft $2.5bn super purchase, and cost virtually nothing -- $77bn overseas funds because stupid tax system stops repatriation - clive boulton
Yes Satyajit, Apple is in the "object of desire" business (now including "watches") not the smartphone business - Tom Guarriello
"One of the dirty little secrets about rare-earth mining is that a major by-product is radioactive waste in the form of thorium." So how long will cell phones be manufactured, really? Anybody else betting on environmental awareness trumping tech manufacturing b.s.? - Frank Paynter
Apple arrogance, but everybody buys anyway - Ludwig Ederle
Murray -- I think so.... - John Taschek
This used to be common for consoles back when they were interesting. Original Playstation, N64, etc. Pestering ToysRus employees to get trucking schedules was part of the game. - Ian McGee
Don't see how Minecraft fits into Nadellas published strategy at all - Ian Waring
Real-Time Inventory functions this way... you'll never know what is where till supply catches up to demand... - Matthew Voshell
Originally my AT&T order said it would deliver in October and it delivered today. - Alex de Soto
BIGGER THAN A WALMART!!! hOLY pOW bATMAN! - Frank Paynter
John - I appreciate the honesty. - Murray Macdonald
Minecraft gets to the hearts and minds of developers .. who happen to be between 10-14 years old - John Taschek
lantern mantles! - Jerome Hughes
how many people buy Androids vs iPhones? - Da from Android
Microsoft is grasping at straws... i guess that NFL money is paying off forcing the athletes use surface tablets... ha - Matthew Voshell
It's like ramping up for WWII manufacturing. Where's Rosie the iPhone riveter? - Alex de Soto
Androids sell about nine for each iPhone sold. But that doesn't matter. Most of those are cheap low end phones sold in China and India. - Robert Scoble
story about foxxconn demand... plus they had a strike? http://www.cnet.com/news... - Matthew Voshell
Murray - I have nothing to add ... I like moving fast, but I've got an aversion to mob mentality and long lines - John Taschek
Minecraft is cross-platform, cross-device. - clive boulton
The original Rosie died from mesothelioma - Frank Paynter
I tried to dissuade Steve from doing this. He needed to do it. And I think he wanted to see what the experience was himself today - Tina Chase Gillmor
It's 3 Phone Monty! - Tom Guarriello
It was a bad sign when Francine's iPhone pre-order said Nov 15 delivery... - Ian McGee
I'm watching the GG on my 6+ - Ian Waring
They're waiting in line for me... I paid a pro line stander to get my iP6 - Frank Paynter
As of June 1st Android held 61.9% of the U.S. market share compared to Apple’s 32.5% http://bgr.com/2014... - Murray Macdonald
@Alex... that's AT&T :/ - Matthew Voshell
It's a good live-in-the-moment-event -- like waiting for Star Wars. I'm too old for that... - John Taschek
Apple could have made 20 million iPhones 6's ready for Day One. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
It's the Great Pumpkin Steve Gillmor! - Alex de Soto
Quietly MS is going cross-platform...IE next? http://cliveboulton.com/post... - clive boulton
Maryam better lock her door tonight - Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPhone - christina sponselli
JOhn Taschek... YOU'RE too old for that? - Tina Chase Gillmor
hey! How about that Bono! - Frank Paynter
I matured before my time - John Taschek
That was from Tim's interview with Charlie Rose http://appleinsider.com/article... - Matthew Voshell
I think it's in response to Jennifer Lawrence - John Taschek
Gotta go - think my daughter in law is in labour... See you next week. - Ian Waring
U2 are over. Apple Did a bad deal there - Moe Glitz from iPhone
More Americans use Androids or iPhone? - Da from Android
john... you crack me up - Tina Chase Gillmor
Congrats, ian! - John Taschek
Da - iPhone by far - Keith Teare
They can still get Nickelback for the next launch. - Frank Paynter
@Frank rare-earth mining -- def to get more attention - clive boulton
shoot, I missed the beverage shot - Tina Chase Gillmor
Current times giving way to the redefinition of "free speech" - christina sponselli
I'm actually surprised they haven't added Touch ID to macbooks? Assuming its coming to iPads next month.. - Matthew Voshell
Apple Apps are full of advertising. - Murray Macdonald
All part of the sixth great extinction (Anthropocene) - Frank Paynter
But won't Apple have to go back on the security promise to gather the signals to do contextual products like Google Now? - Ian McGee
Apple don't do Ads on Mobile. They only do Credit Cards - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think we should debate whether "holocene extinction" or "anthropocene extinction" is the more appropriate term. - Frank Paynter
i just Googled. 52 % Android. 42% iPhone for US - Da from Android
Google is answering Apple: "Google bolsters Android L security with encryption by default strategy" http://www.techtimes.com/article... - Alex de Soto
macbook pro line design looking dated. touch screen. yoga hinge. LTE yada yada - clive boulton
Yoda hinge? - Frank Paynter
Yoga hinge (oops) - clive boulton
The Social Sites that wins on Mobile are the ones that don't go with the Ads Model, but rather the Credit Cards Model - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I wuz joking - Frank Paynter
Lenovo has a factory as big as a WalMart! - Frank Paynter
"every cloud service is trustworthy, until they violate your trust" - Dan Farber, 9/19/14 - Jerome Hughes
This was what Toffler wrote about decades ago... - Tom Guarriello
alllllright... we just went there - Matthew Voshell
Take it off. - Murray Macdonald
nah, it'll be charging - Jerome Hughes
been a long trip I guess... ;-) - Ian McGee
The Gillmors are always having more fun - Tina Chase Gillmor
Uber and AirBnb are going to win big on mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tina: hah! - Robert Scoble
HERE YOU GO -- Gold IPhones at $3,600 as China Delay Fuels Black Market http://bloom.bg/1wNL9ut - Nir Ben Yona
Facebook and Twitter need to lose the Ads Model and move towards the Credit Cards Model - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I will say.. getting used to the sleep button being on the side instead of the top has been the greatest adjustment! - Matthew Voshell
Uber is being f'd in France and Germany, no big win there. Airbnb as well - Ludwig Ederle
As a photog... the camera on this phone is legit - Matthew Voshell
Gold iPhone at $3,600 still beats a Rolex. - clive boulton
But at least they are using the Credit Card Model. Advertising sucks on Mobile - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I want a drone that follows you down the hill shooting your run. - Murray Macdonald
Here's what i want....I order the phone....someone comes to my door and hands me the new phone with all my data on it... takes my old phone....bricks it.... hands me some money...Goodbye - Tina Chase Gillmor
That would be a nice service. - Murray Macdonald
Murray ~ flyables over wearables. yes! - clive boulton
Are people going to use Apple Pay? Thats your money.... to stay on the privacy line... - Matthew Voshell
Apple Drones Delivery Service - Moe Glitz from iPhone
there you go Moe! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Walmart and Bestbuy are not supporting Apple Pay. - Murray Macdonald
How long will WalMart and BestBuy resist Apple Pay if it gains traction? Probably not long. - Tom Guarriello
Insurance companies will be heavily involved... - christina sponselli
My bank (BofA) is sending me messages about supporting Apple Pay - Tina Chase Gillmor
Bourgie Apple users don't shop WalMart - Frank Paynter
I don't see many at Walmart with iPhones - clive boulton
People who shop at walmart.. is it likly they have iphones? gotta keep thoer retirees employed - Matthew Voshell
I was reading that they use cash in germany. - Frank Paynter
Frank: yeah, and they still read newspapers too. Way behind. :-) - Robert Scoble
Chill on the ageist bullshit Matthew - Frank Paynter
I use 1password with touch ID and then can fill forms in the web (and apps soon) and its amazing!!! my home button wont wear out in a year - Matthew Voshell
Robert, they still have trees in deutschland, so they can afford papers - Frank Paynter
1Password on iOS 8 is great - Tom Guarriello
@Frank.. just a joke.. walmart is renouned for paying those greaters shit money... - Matthew Voshell
Apple Pay be great at bars, restaurants, nightclubs, keep my CC out of unknown hands - clive boulton
John has left the building - Tina Chase Gillmor
Same with Pocket and Evernote on ios8 - Tom Guarriello
@Tom.. LOVE Pocket - Matthew Voshell
True Matthew... a WalMart job and foodstamps will get a person by - Frank Paynter
Who wrote that "burn rate bubble" article this week? Interesting. - Tom Guarriello
Isnt there a fact that like 80% of the current startups in the mobile space can't sustain thier business model? - Matthew Voshell
John is back - John Taschek
Fred Wilson wrote the Burn Baby Burn post. http://avc.com/2014... - Ian McGee
Thanks, Ian. - Tom Guarriello
Alibaba is one big bubble - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I think 80 percent of any startup can't sustain its original business model -- probably even higher - John Taschek
Medium is great... here are a couple of interesting pieces: https://medium.com/@dweinb... - Frank Paynter
So what's the 6 good for besides bigger, better camera and Apple Pay compared to the 5s? - Ludwig Ederle
Steven Levy started curating a tech section for Medium - christina sponselli
Medium definitely found an interesting niche. - Tom Guarriello
Anyone have connections to 12 south? Hoping they come out with a bookbook for iphone 6 sooner rather than later - Matthew Voshell
I'm seeing a lot of young parents abandon Facebook and take up Path - clive boulton
Steve --> The Tale of the Manson Tapes by Tom O’Neill http://bit.ly/1wOFzba - Nir Ben Yona
Medium is very social and (of course) has great hooks into Twitter - christina sponselli
I'm in DC and i've never heard Path mentioned once...SnapChat is spreading like wildfire - Matthew Voshell
Medium is excellent -- but Steve's point about it being elitist is probably true and that's why it is better. - John Taschek
John - why elitist? - Tina Chase Gillmor
"Thoughtful writing" what a concept. The anti-Buzzfeed. - Tom Guarriello
How will Medium making $? - christina sponselli
yes, the antidote - Tina Chase Gillmor
That is what Steve said -- - John Taschek
Confession: They gave me a Medium account in the early days, but I haven't written anything that I thought was high enough quality to place there. - Frank Paynter
Frank... give it a try anyway - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Christina http://thenextweb.com/media... and https://medium.com/re-form : Native Content Ads. - Satyajit
Thanks, @Satyajit - christina sponselli
The Apple/U2 blowback has been interesting. My wife's work (hospital) wasn't amused that all company iphones suddenly had the album. http://www.adweek.com/news... - Ian McGee
but its a lot harder to write in the long-form - Tina Chase Gillmor
But people miss long form and quality - John Taschek
Matthew ~ glance at young Moms phones, lots of them use Path - clive boulton
Twitter acquired Posterous, does anyone remember that? - Nir Ben Yona
Path for families - Tina Chase Gillmor
Long form will keep up quality, keeping noise down. Another great thing about Medium is it approximates how much time I am going to take to read an article so it sort of helps me to decide wheter I can read an article now or add it to read it later list. - Satyajit
Tina: yes. Path fits Apple like a glove - clive boulton
Agree, Satyajit. Plus the discoverability of seeing what your friends are reading or writing. And they have a great email digest. - christina sponselli
We need aggregation tools that allow you to control the settings. - Murray Macdonald
+10 Feedly - Tom Guarriello
How are you watching Sky Sports, Keith?? VPN plus subscription? - Tom Guarriello
Why isn't it just a chrome plugin that goes and harvests content you care about? - Murray Macdonald
Tom - VPN and sisters sub - Keith Teare
Ah, English family FTW!! - Tom Guarriello
I want a system that reads it to me when I'm driving/shaving. -- read it to me later. - Murray Macdonald
Funny... Steve said this was going to be a short show. Turns out, not so. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Forbes, yes. Atlantic...I don't think so - Tom Guarriello
i think Medium doesn't actually know what it's going to be yet - Tina Chase Gillmor
And Annotations, too! :) - Satyajit
They do have "Powered By" sponsorships as Satyajit's link showed featuring BMW. https://medium.com/re-form - Alex de Soto
You guys need to get Next Issue. Killer app for magazines - Tom Guarriello
The video froze for me. Anyone else? - Murray Macdonald
Didnt MacWorld announce they are stopping thier print edition? - Matthew Voshell
Still working here, Murray - Ian McGee
Thanks Ian. - Murray Macdonald
"Getting off without my iPhone" - Murray Macdonald
If you don't have it first it's worthless. - Frank Paynter
+1 Murray - Tom Guarriello
"I don't have my iPhone" somewhat like "I want my MTV" - Jerome Hughes
Checkout NodeRed - Murray Macdonald
Thanks for todays show. - Patrick Culleton
so great! - Jerome Hughes
Have great weekends! - John Taschek
I am weary of hearing Steve whine about his not ordering his phone. If he had planned better, he's have one now. Its not Apple's fault, its yours. - Thomas Rector
BTW - chat Center released a new version yesterday. All 3 billion mobile numbers are now enabled in the app as Chat addresses. - Keith Teare
Thanks! - Alex de Soto
Thanks everyone, especially Tina! - Murray Macdonald
Looks like Pittsburgh, Robert! - Tom Guarriello
Tx guys, great convo - Good luck w/the phone steve! - J.C. Bouvier
Thanks, All! :) - Satyajit
Good show. 'night all - Ian McGee
awwww Murray! thanks - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina = the glue. - Jerome Hughes
you guys are so nice!!! love you all - Tina Chase Gillmor
Black Market Takes Over the iPhone 6 Lines https://www.youtube.com/watch... - clive boulton
ccv xfgsrt - Filho Silva JC
European Commission Criticizes Proposed Internet Use Tax http://www.bloggersandmarketers.com/reviews... - Bloggers and Marketers
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording special edition live tonight 6pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
on boarding everyone now - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hanging out, waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble
Squeee - Kevin Costain
I can haz arrived - Chris Hale
Good evening all - Tony Stanislawski
so Robert, which cell provider are you with these days? - Chris Hale
Verizon. - Robert Scoble
No Chinese overdub please - Kevin Costain
Today is the day before tomorrow!!!! - Kevin Costain
did you see on apples site on the spec sheet it didnt mention nfc on the verizon and tmobile iphones - Chris Hale
@Chris, I also noticed those phones didn't have 802.11ac.. was that true? - Kevin Costain
Steve will get the bedazzled edition! - Chris Hale
We are restarting. - Robert Scoble
Cause we don't wanna be "f**ked." - Robert Scoble
Square is.. uhm square. Sorry, the watch (edit) looks like shit. - Kevin Costain
haha - Chris Hale
i think curved look of iphone 6 will lead to a lot of dropped phones - Chris Hale
before any rebuttles , I don't believe phones should have cases. - Chris Hale
The watch is pretty nice looking: http://www.apple.com/watch... Yes, it can be better. - Robert Scoble
Question; How does Apple make money with Apple Pay? - Kevin Costain
@kevin, they don't - Chris Hale
its more for the user experience for paying for things as a tactic to immerse you further into the ecosystem - Chris Hale
@chris - how would you protect the you $800 investment without a case? - Kevin Costain
I have been a huge fan of the new generation of glass screen protectors. - Chris Hale
I am unafraid of scuffing up the back of the device. I would rather a thin/pocketable device than a thick device that sticks to my pocket and makes it very uncomfortable to walk around with - Chris Hale
The lack of commentary on watch battery life - what does that mean? - Josh Bradshaw
Kevin: by selling you a new phone and watch. I can just see something like "At the Olympics you can use an Apple Watch to Pay but you can't use Moto 360." - Robert Scoble
The thing is, these devices are becoming worse for scratches. i look at the Apple Watch.. and in a week I see that thing scratched to shit. - Kevin Costain
well luckily the bands look replacable - Chris Hale
I think the watch screen is sapphire i think. - Chris Hale
Ahh.. Scoble.. exclusivity. - Kevin Costain
Apple can make money on Apple pay - Tony Stanislawski
Kevin: fashion. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert, i think the whole apple pay eco system wont have exclusivity for contactless payment for very long. I am guessing android will catch up quick. - Chris Hale
Also, no commentary on Watch battery life and almost no commentary on any sort of waterproofing. - Kevin Costain
Hope Tim Cook ate his hat, by mocking Android a year or so ago... 'bumping phones together, is silly, try ibeacons'... Still waiting for ibeacons to make major inroads... - Petr Faitl
I think the direction they are steering the ship will shift the whole industry in the right direction . I think the announcements today have finally solidified the movement to NFC as the next generation payment platform - Chris Hale
Anybody else notice they didnt mention any specs at all on the Watch today? - Chris Hale
or did i miss that part of the choppy video? - Chris Hale
Paywave from Visa uses NFC - http://www.visa.ca/en... - is Apple Pay going to plug right into this ecosystem with little or no change? - Kevin Costain
Chris: specs don't matter. But there are plenty on the Internet. - Robert Scoble
It was nice to see a return to the positive Apple focused on its products, rather than trying to slam others. - Ian McGee
we are bad at remembering history - Tony Stanislawski
@Tony .. WTF.. ? haha - Kevin Costain
Robert, I agree about specs in this category not really being that important but battery life and wifi and a few other things would have been helpful - Chris Hale
Today was a 'me too' day for apple. 'Unparallel' it was not. 2 iPhones is about sticking more SKUs into the market place trying to crowd it out. - Petr Faitl
@Chris - that was on purpose. If they offered those specs, that watch would look even worse. - Kevin Costain
there were a few things i really didnt like on the watch. The circular icons with differerent sizes and colors made the watch look like the screen had a weird lookin chicken pox look to it - Chris Hale
Is Scoble still getting the watch? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I want to know more about the walkie talkie feature - Tony Stanislawski
Who wants to bet the next Ipad will have NFC built into it and will possibly be a competitor to Square and other credit card readers - Chris Hale
Yes. - Robert Scoble
For a company the made devices (iPhones) that contributed to us abandoning watches, why would they make a phone? - Kevin Costain
I keep writing phone when I mean watch.. haha. - Kevin Costain
Taptic - Ian McGee
taptic engine - Chris Hale
Hiya - Ian Waring
"Not a content creation device!" - Kevin Costain
I wonder if passbook can be used legally for driver license - Tony Stanislawski
@Tony, not yet but I wonder how long it will take state goverments to adopt phones for ID's - Chris Hale
Square was quick to jump on Apple Pay support - had a story up on Hacker News right after the presentation - Ian McGee
Thing that got me was the infra red sensors under the watch. One of their hires is a specialist at measuring blood sugar levels using a non invasive, infrared sensor on the skin surface - Ian Waring
what was the synopsis @Ian? - Chris Hale
And, with fines going up for in-car phone use - what does this mean for driving with a connected Apple Watch? - Kevin Costain
Bluetooth between the Watch & iPhone? - J.C. Bouvier
@JC probably - Chris Hale
I wonder if this means American express will be in more places if it is your default card - Tony Stanislawski
The watch apparently senses some of its context, lighting up when the wrist is lifted. It also opens up a lot of contextual applications, now we know the location but we also know the heart rate when someone is in an experience. - Josh Bradshaw
It's actually really personal. This morning I was describing watch to a non-techie friend and as soon as I told about 'Haptic notifications' which I described as 'feels like a tap on wrist to notify you', I could see the excitement in eyes regarding the ideas popping about what normal person would like to use it in personal context.. - Satyajit
2 lines in the API gives Apple Pay support through Stripe (not Square sorry). Pitch was if you support Stripe now, it's trivial to support AP by iOS 8 launch. Decent strategy I thought. - Ian McGee
Wow, just found out you guys were here! - Tom Guarriello
@Tony, that is awesome... - J.C. Bouvier
I wonder if this canabalizes apples in app purchase platform. - Chris Hale
Apple has the money too to get these into stores - Tony Stanislawski
I am hoping it does. I really hated how apple has handled in app purchases or subscriptions or payments - Chris Hale
Would like to see some sleep monitoring for a comprehensive health offering from the watch but didn't see anything on that. My guess is it has to charge every night. - Josh Bradshaw
Certainly has a retail footprint to help drive it...and if banks see the value in the increased security of TouchID, they'll drive adoption...and Apple indeed may have just cornered the market on payments... - J.C. Bouvier
@Josh, i found a really cool device on kickstarter i backed recently that I really think is a good solution for sleep monitoring. - Chris Hale
@ChrisHale do share - Josh Bradshaw
I really, really like the concept of this device. I think it can do stuff like record audio when it detects sound at a certain threshold - Chris Hale
Taptic...brilliant new word - Tom Guarriello
With the demo they said it can store music, etc - Tony Stanislawski
The other thing they said is the App developers can push the processing and reduce the power used on the watch to the phone... - Tony Stanislawski
Who here will be shelling out $349 for the Apple wristwatch? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hand raised here, Tina - Tom Guarriello
349 for watch and more for straps.. :) - Satyajit
At this point - No chance I'll buy the Apple watch. I'm in for the 4.7' iPhone 6 - Kevin Costain
Not me. I have a decent multi-sport watch and it suits me much better. - Petr Faitl
Only 48% of iPhone users have a phone that will support the watch, so for most it will be much more than $349 - Murray Macdonald
@Satyajit $749 for the gold version :) - Kevin Costain
I dont know if i am going to buy one . I am a developer and I kinda think i will probably have to buy one either way. - Chris Hale
Actually, I know I'm in for 2 - Tom Guarriello
I imagine the sports band is most economical - Tina Chase Gillmor
Most of that money is offshore... - Ian McGee
Things may change until the watch is released. They may change this product drastically. Make it more compelling. - Kevin Costain
Wow, Benedict made a phenomenal point - Chris Hale
The music labels HATE iTunes, so the Film Industry may be extra cautious about licensing to Apple. - Murray Macdonald
I think it wont take long at all for Android wear to make a wearable that competes really well with this watch - Chris Hale
@Benedict whilst that might be the case (at the moment), shareholders might be looking at Apple to bring more revenue and it might be the next logical step to go. Virgin was once a record selling company... - Petr Faitl
Anybody look at the apple video today and think that this payment platform will put a ginormous dent in Paypal? - Chris Hale
Those rights are enormously expensive, Keith - Tom Guarriello
Credit Card transactions cost a percentage of sales. Bank Card transactions cost $0.10 In countries other than the US (Canada and Europe) we've had secure Chip-And-Pin transactions for many years. Most purchases are made using Bank Cards, not Credit Cards. - Murray Macdonald
I think I want to get a watch. I want to experience how the form-factor works with me. I want to see what's missing, and where my imagination takes me after the experience - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Chris there certainly are folks at Paypal who would have spent the afternoon discussing precisely that. This is a challenge in the space they are trying to maintain control of and build out. - Josh Bradshaw
@Tina, your imagination is going to take at least $349 out of your pocket :) - Kevin Costain
Me too, Tina. It's a new category. I have a Pebble and it was pretty disappointing. I want to see what Apple does with the device. - Tom Guarriello
U2 is over - Tom Guarriello
Interesting it was Eddy Cue that presented the Apple Pay stuff. Signs that Beats likely is taking over the music side. - Ian McGee
I'm with you Tina, want it. Want it the first day. - Josh Bradshaw
@Kevin $749!!! :O but yea if it's available, though strap choice would be limited, can't pair gold with metal strap.. .:) - Satyajit
Read Lefsetz on this U2 appearance http://lefsetz.com/wordpre... - Tom Guarriello
I love the metal watch bands ( I think) but Im sure I'll start with the low end - Tina Chase Gillmor
@josh I very rapidly envision a world where i can touch my watch or my phone to a friends phone or watch and seamlessly and securely give them money. Since credit card and bank companies compete on features like purchase protection or fraud prevention i feel like the usefuleness of what solution paypal used to fit is negated in a real big way - Chris Hale
@Tina I want a metal one for going out and I want one for fitness. - Josh Bradshaw
@Chris, outside the US you can do it with your phone, no touchy feely needed. @Scoble can do it in Australia. Loved that when I lived there. - Josh Bradshaw
I think this the first time that the highest-end iPhone isn't going to be the best seller. - Kevin Costain
I wrote a quick blog article today about my thoughts on the Iphone 6 and one of the things i thought about that was really cool was the notion of possibly finally getting ATM machines that use NFC for authentication. I can't wait for that transition to occur - Chris Hale
Well said, Keith - Tom Guarriello
I also had the thought that i would like to have a nice band - that the clasping area is cool because I can see that I might wear my watch facing the inside of my wrist. you know, where you turn to look at the watch face on the inside of your wrist - Tina Chase Gillmor
Do share @Chris - Kevin Costain
$299 iPhone 6 w/64GB is the sweet spot for sure... - J.C. Bouvier
I wonder if the 16 GB iPhone 6 will have so little memory that it's unusable? - Kevin Costain
Here it is. Its just a humble nerds first reaction. Please ignore the rest of the site for now, I havent had time to clean it up http://ninjaenterprises.net/apple-i... - Chris Hale
Ha ha... - J.C. Bouvier
Yayy we got our shout-out. ;-) - Ian McGee
Tx guys, nice convo as always... - J.C. Bouvier
I'd love to know the average age of GG chatroom! - Tom Guarriello
Whoo hoo! - Kevin Costain
41 years young <-- - Kevin Costain
@Tom I am 33, about to be 34 :( - Chris Hale
67 year old senior, here - Tom Guarriello
@Scoble, like seeing you standing at your new desk - Josh Bradshaw
28 :) - Satyajit
50 - Ian McGee
38... - Petr Faitl
I'm not sayin' - Tina Chase Gillmor
Set my alarm for 3am (EST) Friday morning :/ - Kevin Costain
@kevin, id love to here your thoughts on my brief little article. I am just starting to blog and if people like the content, i will probably start doing articles more frequently - Chris Hale
No worries @Chris. I will get back to you on that. I'm also a blogger, so I know where your coming from I did the same today regardign the event: https://cwl.cc/2014... - Kevin Costain
@Chris Hale NFC for ATM is quite unlikely. I cannot see the banks allowing this to be used for more than the current NFC tech, i.e. small purchases up to $80-$100. - Petr Faitl
Thanks @kevin. - Chris Hale
@Petr, I feel like with the problems with card skimmers and now flir infrared able to read finger presses on atm machines, the banks need to step up security on ATM's in a big way. You could be totally right that banks wont have this tech on ATM's but I have already seen atm makers experiment with things like QR codes for 2nd factor auth on ATM's - Chris Hale
But honestly this is all just me theorizing use cases for this technology. Time will tell what ends up happening - Chris Hale
Great show tonight! Gotta head out. Very lively debate! - Chris Hale
So, first.. the one thing designers always bitch to me about. "The font is too small". I can hear a designer saying that about your blog. I like your point about cases and designed phones.. it make sense. And, it bring something new to the discussion. I know you mentioned it here in the chatroom - but if I were reading that for the first time, I'd stop and thin "He's got a point". Oh,... more... - Kevin Costain
@Petr - using a phone + touchID to do small withdrawal transactions would probably aid the bank in cutting losses from skimmers. Phones (apps) are starting to catch on for cheque deposits too. I think the most common ATM transaction has to be a quick, under $100 withdrawal. - Kevin Costain
coda: NFC is the new GSM. - clive boulton
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
Yes, this is the chat - Steve Gillmor
Happy Friday everybody! - Chris Hale
as one of my old bosses used to say, "Happy Friday, that means there is only two days left in the work week" - Chris Hale
Bonjour - Ian Waring
I'm here! - Robert Scoble
Is Kevin M on today? - Chris Hale
Hi, all - Tom Guarriello
Hi kids. - Francine Hardaway
For those who care, I'm thinking of moving back to the Bay Area. This time for good. Just as you all leave - Francine Hardaway
Robert did Kevin friend you on Facebook? - Jan Winter
I am Kevin's FB friend. - Francine Hardaway
Jan: Not yet. - Robert Scoble
I'll be here Francine. Can't wait to see you installed on the West coast again! ;-) - Ian McGee
Tina I don't see video - Keith Teare
No one wants to be my friend :/ - Kevin Costain
I don't wear about careables - Amyloo
Yay Ian! - Francine Hardaway
I want a wearable vacuum cleaner! - Kevin Costain
Two factor wearables (oh low bat) - clive boulton
Oh no, a Man U t-shirt!! Ugh, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
I care about wearables only because I need to find a prettier watch than my Pebble - Francine Hardaway
John T's earbuds are tres festive - Amyloo
watches are more about fashion than utility - Jan Winter
Tom - Its subtle - Keith Teare
It is, but I'm very sensitive to such things! You guys are spending like drunken sailors!! - Tom Guarriello
Greeted as liberators? - Ian McGee
Switzerland are f****d! - Ian Waring
Roy better win that one, eh Keith? - Tom Guarriello
It better be an accessory that is functional standalone, not just tethered to my phone... - Simon Benvenutto
"I finally realized why I've been so depressed over the past few years. I wish my watch did more." Dave Pell - christina sponselli
Salesforce labs believes in apps; adopts web components (polymer) https://github.com/ForceDo... - clive boulton
Switzerland could adopt Android wear. you would get some great designed watches - Jan Winter
Soccer is always good for a cultural divide jibe, at least. - Amyloo
An Arsenal supporter, here - Tom Guarriello
The Beautiful Game - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Aston Villa Supporter here - Ian Waring
(long suffering) - Ian Waring
One of my direct reports designed the Demon logo on Fulham FC shirts - Ian Waring
My wife wasn't interested until she saw gold all over the back cover of the new iPhone - Ian Waring
Up Keith's iPad-watch combo, Macbook LTE watch combo, yes! - clive boulton
I guess we should go directly to implants - Tina Chase Gillmor
Ooo, Ian, could be a scary season at Villa Park... - Tom Guarriello
I don't take my Pebble off at night. - Francine Hardaway
i think wearing a watch at night is not a great thing - Chris Hale
Pebble's apps are so hard to get to and use that I never use them - Francine Hardaway
I contributed to a kickstarter campaign for this device that can monitor my sleep. All i have to do is clip this little clip onto my pillow case. Much better than a wearable at night - Chris Hale
I even turn off wifi and mobiles at night - clive boulton
The first Product model from Apple is always basic - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tina, here's Brookings new report on cyborgs http://www.brookings.edu/researc... - Tom Guarriello
misfit shine is supposed to last 6 months - Chris Hale
The first iPhone had no 3G. Only came with 4GB & 8GB storage - Moe Glitz from iPhone
My Misfit shine battery lasts about 5 months. That's why I wear it - Francine Hardaway
i think i lost my misfit shine. Stupid thing is easy to lose - Chris Hale
My Pebble lasts a week - Francine Hardaway
The first iPad had no camera - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Imagine the savings if you could implant a 4 year Stanford CS/EE degree. - clive boulton
they areALL easy to lose - Tina Chase Gillmor
i just ordered the new moto 360 smartwatch. - Chris Hale
No argument, Robert. That's why I want a watch. - Francine Hardaway
+1 Clive - Tom Guarriello
Don't know if the gillmor gang guys have ever heard of qualcomm quickcharge but its a new charging tech that allows for batteries to charge super fast. - Chris Hale
I changed my first iPad's wallpaper to a clock face and hung it on the wall. It shows the right time twice a day. - Kevin Costain
i think its supposed to take full charge times on phones down to like 15 minutes - Chris Hale
Tom ~ implant bachelors degree & go straight to PhD or work. - clive boulton
boy, we really have high hopes for this product. Hopefully, they can deliver. I'm beginning to think we might all be a bit disappointed. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Motorola's new phone they just announced supports it. It gives an 8 hour battery charge in 15 minutes. - Chris Hale
that Motorola watch looks nice - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd rather see sensors small & implantable (nod to Tina) with local xmitters. - Ian McGee
I wonder if that tech will make it into the smart watches. If it takes me only 10 min. to charge the watch that would be acceptable for me, imho - Chris Hale
This Keynote could be Apple's biggest since Macworld 2007 - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I wouldn't buy a watch that signalled how much money I have. That's crass - Francine Hardaway
Tina, did you see the cool charger that comes with the new moto 360 watch? It is really cool, it props the watch up at an angle and turns it into an almost alarm clock style display - Chris Hale
I like the Swatch 51 - Ian Waring
The 360 does look cool. - Kevin Costain
Scoble should be a commercial director! - Chris Hale
Blood Sugar for Diabetics - Ian Waring
I ordered my 360 and they said it should arrive by the 19th - Chris Hale
Should show Jack Bauer touching his iWatch and shit blows up! - Kevin Costain
There are some cultures where crass is the objective, right Francine? - Tom Guarriello
Apple is totally screwed -- or is it? http://uncrunched.com/2014... - clive boulton
They are trying very hard to get that Ian Waring, but so far the most accurate way is through tears - Francine Hardaway
Yes, Tom. Just not mine:-) - Francine Hardaway
Infrared on skin looking good - Ian Waring
Dick Tracy has an iWatch! - Kevin Costain
I expect it will embed an M7 collecting health and activity metrics, which can be synched back to the phone at a later point. iPad sync even better! - Simon Benvenutto
if Apple watch include NFC then i think it will be useful - Chris Hale
But not there yet continuously Ian W - Francine Hardaway
I know, Francine. It's amazing how different people are. - Tom Guarriello
Nike deprecated its hardware, Tim Cook on BOD, indicates Apple goes healthy - clive boulton
NFC is far east, wrong end of the sales transaction.. - Ian Waring
You always say notifications, Steve - Francine Hardaway
what do you mean Ian? - Chris Hale
i still wear a watch.. basically because i need to know the time faster than it takes to open my phone, but in the code, and look.. or even have my phone in some situations (wet.. my watch is water resistant).. - mary hodder
Robert is on to something. The fashionable iThingie has to do something useful, different than other watches or something cool that your iPhone doesn't do easily or well. - Alex de Soto
I wear the Pebble, Mary, because I like the notifications. - Francine Hardaway
I would love to know, statistically, how many people *used* to wear a watch but have stopped wearing them (mainly because of smartphones). - Kevin Costain
I gave up my watch for the iPhone, CWL, but then the Pebble brought me back - Francine Hardaway
low bat drives wearing my solar g-shock. - clive boulton
Open Garage Door, Turn down the heat, turn off the bathroom light, call home - Arnie Klaus
I no longer wear a watch due to my smartphone. for sure - Tina Chase Gillmor
i still havent found my favorite wearable yet. I do seem to have collected a bunch of them. Up, up24, misfit shine, Omate truesmart. My latest wearable toy just arrived this week after waiting a year. Its a Embrace+ band. I kinda like it - Chris Hale
NFC happens on a specialist reader at the end of a sales transaction. Better to see customer coming into store, knowing their preferences, sell ups, card details, email to send receipt to, done... - Ian Waring
Lists... ask Robert. - Frank Paynter
Will Apple launch a new iPhone, new iPad Air plus the iWatch on Tuesday. Seems abit crowded - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The big compelling feature for a return to watches has to be health services.. - Kevin Costain
in that context @Ian, I totally agree with you. I see a future where I could use my watch/wearables nfc to do 3 really cool things. 1. I could use it as a payment device (NO MORE CREDIT CARDS). 2. Use it for permiter access (Unlock my doors on my car or my house or safe) . 3. Social interaction (It would become the long awaited business card killer/drink napkin killer) . I cant wait to exchange social info via tapping watches or tapping watches to phones. - Chris Hale
What's inside that mysterious white building extension for Tuesday 's Keynote. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
High time major sites have anticipatory capabilities (Steve's twitter points) - clive boulton
@Chris Hale - you lost me at the uber dorky tapping of phones.. haha. Sounds like taking a picture with an iPad. - Kevin Costain
But I think that's right about Twitter. It was a public utility until it wasn't - Francine Hardaway
Thought there was another Apple event due in October... anyone know? - Ian Waring
1. A Catwalk. 2. Future Apple Store Demo. 3. iBeacons Showcase for the new iPhone and iWatch - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Moe: I think that building would be perfect for a fashion show and/or health/home demos. - Alex de Soto
Tim Cook's keynote rewritten..? http://online.wsj.com/article... - clive boulton
taking a picture with an ipad is pretty lame. I think tapping a watch or phone to another phone could be useful if the user experience and ease of use is done right. - Chris Hale
How about a watch as a form of ID? - Kevin Costain
watch NFC - clive boulton
I have money set aside to replace by Nexus 5 with one of the new iPhones - Ian Waring
@Kevin, that would be really awesome. I have been really , really wanting to do away with my wallet altogether. Slowly but surely the traditional wallet is approaching death - Chris Hale
Right now i am experimenting with a Loop pay since my coin credit card hasnt arrived. It is a device that is meant to replace the credit card. - Chris Hale
Funny thing is that the iBeacon code senses no signal, then can sense signal, then within 10', then immediately adjacent to handset - Ian Waring
400 is kinda pricey for a watch type device. I paid 250 for the moto 360 - Chris Hale
Effectively iBeacon can act as an NFC reader - Ian Waring
I doubt that it will fundamentally change lives - Francine Hardaway
When will this simply turn into tech burnout? - Kevin Costain
have yall seen that new bluetooth headset Motorola announced today? I think its pretty slick looking - Chris Hale
Maybe not so pricey for something that provides biofeedback, connection to your home, sends you notifications, keeps your appointments, makes payments,.... - Tina Chase Gillmor
I hope the iThingie can control my Apple TV. - Alex de Soto
So they want to be Burberry? - Francine Hardaway
Ears are a good place to measure blood flow... - Ian Waring
Chanel? - Francine Hardaway
Tina, personal digital assistant: Microsoft Cordova (they've moved best engineers to Cordova) - clive boulton
Alex... yes it would be nice to have the remote control strapped on to us so it's not easy to lose - Tina Chase Gillmor
And marketing them to create desire. - christina sponselli
Apple *affirms* new technologies - is not creating them. - Kevin Costain
@ian, have you seen the Dash? http://store.bragi.com/ It is a pair of bluetooth earbuds that monitor heart rate and bloodflow using the ears - Chris Hale
Adding Data Layers to Fashion - Moe Glitz from iPhone
On Red Jony Ive worked with Marc Newson, who designed the Atmos 566 clock, which goes for $95,000 - Simon Benvenutto
@Clive, you meant Cortana , right? - Chris Hale
Yup, Cortana (need more sbux) - clive boulton
Making Dumb Beauty Products more Human - Moe Glitz from iPhone
this could be a common functional block (electronics) packaged as various object of beauty designs, across a whole set of price points, some of it real art. - Simon Benvenutto
you writing cordova caught my eye because I develop apps using cordova/phonegap - Chris Hale
@Chris - no, not seen them. My wife is diabetic (borderline), would like non-invasive blood sugar monitoring. For me, I want daily microbiome sequencimg ... longer term! - Ian Waring
Yes.. Chanel - mary hodder
i am kinda weary of payments through apple - Chris Hale
Interesting to see if Ahrendts plays a role on Tuesday - Tom Guarriello
Beats Mixr On-Ear Headphones: $249.95. So $399 doesn't seem expensive for an Apple product. - Alex de Soto
beats is overpriced headphones as it is - Chris Hale
Ah, I've played with phonegap/cordova. Redmond needs a new name for Bob's successor - clive boulton
sandwich? now I'm hungry! - Tina Chase Gillmor
If the wearable becomes the ticket to the dance, then it WILL transform the world - Francine Hardaway
I develop mobile apps for cisco using phonegap, they really like the types of stuff you can do with phonegap - Chris Hale
Tell your wife to go vegan and cut out sugar, Ian W and she won't need anything - Francine Hardaway
It looks like Square's iPad reader - Ian Waring
Till functionality on iPad - Ian Waring
@scoble is right. He's even right-er when we talk about getting into kitchens in CANADA - Kevin Costain
did Adobe buy phonegap. Google contributes to cordova - clive boulton
ubiquity is the key to any of these mobile payment platforms. Support for IOS and android is key - Chris Hale
For this payment stuff to take off, it has to work with what exists right now (IE a prepaid credit card working in old school creditcard machines) - Kevin Costain
Adobe did buy them, that is why the platform has two names. Phonegap is adobe's and the open source version is cordova - Chris Hale
oh, no. He's gonna blow! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Sugar's already out... - Ian Waring
"Big fucking money here!" - Kevin Costain
Oh oh! - Alex de Soto
Sbux sucks in Manhattan. Anything to shorten the line. - clive boulton
duck and cover. Scoble be seeing red - Chris Hale
Scoblequake - Alex de Soto
There will be some shoplifting - Francine Hardaway
Go into a Starbucks in Rio De Janeiro and try using passbook to pay. NOPE - Kevin Costain
Francine: not much. Why? Cameras and face detection. - Robert Scoble
Ah, right - Francine Hardaway
There is queueing in Phoenix. And in every Sbux in every airport I ever to to - Francine Hardaway
Noticed Sbux wi-fi changed from AT&T to Google Starbucks in Seattle area. - clive boulton
Do banks favor cashless transactions? Read that it saves them $$ - christina sponselli
see i think if someone can really focus on potential security benefits of these new payment types and call sell it to the public well, it will win this game - Chris Hale
Some franchise Starbucks (rest stops and airports) didn't event take their own gift cards! - Alex de Soto
And the BANKS. What about the BANKS. - Kevin Costain
Same in NYC Clive - Tom Guarriello
Isn't everybody going to want to partner with Apple?? - Tom Guarriello
This week has been a big one for hacks and honestly this maybe has been the year of hacks. It is showing america we need to shape up our payment platforms - Chris Hale
you know.. i really don't ever have a problem paying for anything.. it's super easy everywhere.. so what is the value add? - mary hodder
Nike must be counting on a partnership with Apple - clive boulton
NFC is more secure - Jan Winter
RFID? - Kevin Costain
but as a business.. why would i give a coupon to someone about to buy something already? - mary hodder
I really like the notion of payments via a phone so i don't have to worry about someone stealing my credit card number. - Chris Hale
NFC, bet I end paying some elses coffee. - clive boulton
Apple restricting Beacons from retailer brand to their own app only - to stop you getting notified to death as you walk past stores - Ian Waring
@mary, a lot of times its the manufacturer of the product making the coupons, not the store necessarily - Chris Hale
Mary if I sold cereal A and "saw" you picking up cereal B I'd offer a coupon. Also if you bought just one box and I wanted you to buy 3. - Ian McGee
manufactures also use coupons to get you to get a discound on product b when paired with purchase of product a - Chris Hale
Will the iWatch have a fingerprint sensor? - Alex de Soto
I've used Square cash but it never caught on - Francine Hardaway
Starbucks invested heavily in Square - Ian Waring
fingerprint sensor watch for celebrity passwords :) - clive boulton
Chris.. yes.. but how would you see me looking at a different cereal? that's very difficult to figure out.. and then send just the person looking elsewhere .. your product coupon - mary hodder
hahah @clive i just laughed out loud - Chris Hale
I think it's more like they can't grow into other pieces of the financial industry - Francine Hardaway
Francine I use IFTTT and cash@square.com to send allowances to my kids. ;-) - Ian McGee
Square had a strange investment in one retail outfit - Ian Waring
I do not need to use square to do a transaction if apple has card transfer. - Arnie Klaus
@mary, it can be accomplished with bluetooth beacons but I think this is a very delicate space that needs some real careful attention to how its launched to keep from being creepy - Chris Hale
If Square doesn't take payments via the iWatch, they may eventually be in trouble. Card swipes should be on the way out. - Alex de Soto
order from bed ! Yes! - Tina Chase Gillmor
now.. a restaurant could see me in front of another restaurant.. looking at menu.. GPS is specific enough..and send me a coupon to lure me over.. but other than services like hair or nails or restaurants.. it seems like coupons are far fetched.. - mary hodder
(smutty!) - Ian Waring
Apple lets you do that only if you have an iPHone and you have to scan - Francine Hardaway
Coupons based on buying habits are pretty powerful. I foresee the more stuff i buy, the more relevant coupons i will start seeing. I can't wait till i get reminders or coupons when i pass an aisle i forget something. - Chris Hale
Starting with college campuses is a good idea - Francine Hardaway
Not near Princeton yet - Tom Guarriello
@robert makes an excellent point(as usual) - Chris Hale
+1 Keith - Frank Paynter
well.. people walk into restaurants and pick up to to orders and the people sitting who don't yet have food know.. it's all a queue and it's in order - mary hodder
Tina: more convenient than iWatch, tap Steve and he'll bring you coffee in bed :) - clive boulton
Their Opex will be orders of magnitude more than Downtown - Frank Paynter
Apple is coming for all of them... - Tom Guarriello
Good line - Frank Paynter
Clive....I might have to setup a payment protocol for that! - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think the publics trust in apple is a little shaken in the wake of the hacks this week. - Chris Hale
chris.. i get that coupons based upon what i buy is one way.. yes.. but frankly they have to ask me for my purchase history.. if it's a store that is different than the one i shop in.. just taking it is creepy, and weird.. and actually depending doesn't comply with various laws depending on jurisdiction - mary hodder
tina: bedcoin! - clive boulton
Clive ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
john's mic is hitting his shirt. oy - Tina Chase Gillmor
thx steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
@mary, the stores will incentivize you to grant them access to that information. Its the same idea behind rewards cards or club cards. Its the exact same information. It wont be something that just happens when you are a stranger in the store or opt out of giving your data to the company - Chris Hale
But the icloud hack used Elcomsoft.. which actually will crack into everything we use.. regardless of two-factor auth.. yes.. Apple gets the blame here publicly.. but frankly everything you touch is vulnerable.. there are backdoors for law enforcement with every serivce and technology you use - mary hodder
i have to get glasses like John. I'm out of fashion like Boy George - clive boulton
Bedcoin. I love that. - Francine Hardaway
Don't ask Steve about his Boy George story - Tina Chase Gillmor
Chris.. i hope so (re asking for my data) but I don't use any cards or reward systems due to the data sharing and lack of transparency about what is happening.. and i recommend others don't.. - mary hodder
you'll be sorry - Tina Chase Gillmor
You're not wrong, Steve. Playing both bets. Hedging - Tom Guarriello
how many bedcoin's for a sausage biscuit ;) - clive boulton
NFC can be used for stuff other than payments so what is the harm in having that alongside beacons - Chris Hale
I think you should call this show Tapingo! - Francine Hardaway
the problem with sharing data is most people are afraid to do it.. because there is so much creepy stuff going on.. i've done research on it.. 92% of the people we surveyed hide or lie about their data regularly out of fear and disgust - mary hodder
chat rooms been discussing celebrity fngerprints and bedcoins! - clive boulton
and that was before Snowden - mary hodder
well , Robert scoble has convinced me over the years to not really fear sharing of my data about me - Chris Hale
Chris: I post my naked photos to Facebook public. - Robert Scoble
The benefits outweigh the drawbacks. - Chris Hale
Well, Mary Hodder would disagree on that privacy issue - Tina Chase Gillmor
If privacy is dead.. i want you to put your credit card info here.. i need a new computer - mary hodder
Apple like most technology companies haven’t grasped the ethnography of privacy controls changes over a lifetime. - clive boulton
@clive that was very well put - Chris Hale
Chris.. you don't know the drawbacks.. people are making decisions about you based upon all this data.. and you don't even know - mary hodder
I need a sneeze switch - Tina Chase Gillmor
1Password is going to be worth a bigger fortune after iOS 8 comes out - Tom Guarriello
thanks chris - clive boulton
people always have done that though @mary. Credit scores are the same type of thing. Decisions being made based on data about me - Chris Hale
Chris, yes.. but the FCRA has some regulating effect. but most of our data isn't regulated.. - mary hodder
I think most people have way too much faith in technology companies and don't do due diligence on how to secure some of there basic accounts - Chris Hale
And how about the "interceptor" cell towers? http://www.popsci.com/article... - christina sponselli
People need security counseling. - Chris Hale
two factor harder on mobile (because phone provides auth) - clive boulton
If your insurance company raising your car rates.. based upon who you are friends with in FB.. you'll never know.. but it's legal and they do it.. its in their financial statements - mary hodder
Famous people broadcast their past on Social Media - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I love messing around with the guys when they are "off" camera - Tina Chase Gillmor
I agree with Keith - Chris Hale
Except make it a lot easier, which iOS 8 is going to try - Tom Guarriello
Too easy for Hackers to second guess Famous People's personal passwords - Moe Glitz from iPhone
but Elcomsoft will still get through to Apple's data on people.. because law enforcement gets a pass.. and a backdoor - mary hodder
now that @mary i am really not a fan of. The law enforcement back doors. - Chris Hale
Thumbprint + 1Password in iOS 8 - Tom Guarriello
Pure adult films - Ian McGee
I think someone maybe a Scoble type should really be starting to bring more attention to what types of info those systems can get at , and also what the legal bounds of what they can get at - Chris Hale
Under My Thumb - Moe Glitz from iPhone
like i dont know what types of info can be drawn without a warrant and what type of info can be obtained with different types of warrants - Chris Hale
RIP @ESLundquist - clive boulton
@mary very good points earlier, i like to see and hear different points of view. Part of why i like this show - Chris Hale
Condolences to you guys on losing a friend. It's hard getting old, and this is only one reason why. - Tom Guarriello
He wasn't old - Tina Chase Gillmor
No, I meant the process of getting old, Tina. Losing friends and loved ones. - Tom Guarriello
Sorry to hear yall's friend passed. He sounds like a great person. - Chris Hale
Chris.. it's not about warrants.. it's about the backdoors existing, then Elcomsoft writes software to get into them, then hackers steal the software.. then they hack accounts.. and the Elcomsoft stuff can get to Apple but also about 100 other sites and services.. everything you use.. and Android stuff, Blackberry, Microsoft phone os, etc. - mary hodder
It sucks when your friends start to die - Francine Hardaway
Mike's finally seen off the crazy lady. - clive boulton
thanks steve - mary hodder
Great show, thanks! - Robert Scoble
Life can be a real bitch some days - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Mary, i might try and check out G3 soon. Id be interested to see what yall talk about - Chris Hale
GG is one of the highlights of my week. Thanks, Steve. - Tom Guarriello
So sad. I love G3 BTW - Francine Hardaway
Thanks steve and gang. Great show this week - Chris Hale
You've done some good when you get a GG eulogy - clive boulton
Good show. 'night all - Ian McGee
Chris.. sure it's a little different than GG.. but now i have to go back and listen to yesterday's show.. to figure out what steve was yelling about (possibly) - mary hodder
hehe - Chris Hale
Mary.... I have no freaking idea. I'll grill him on that - Tina Chase Gillmor
moto ear bud Chris Hale 'hinted' at http://www.motorola.com/us... - clive boulton
Yeah, they looked kinda cool IMHO. I am over my limit on bluetooth headsets for the year though - Chris Hale
Steve Gillmor
here - Keith Teare
try again, my phone was trying to answer - Kevin Marks
:) - Chris Hale
Bonjour - Ian Waring
stand by. Rebooting a machine - Tina Chase Gillmor
hang in there Keith - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey ho - Ann Greenberg
Got nada - Ann Greenberg
Test card - Ian Waring
Video and a Sound :-) - Ian Waring
That darn G3 staff must have put the whammy on the board! ;) - Alex de Soto
I was hoping Krystal Kleare was gonna be on the air... - Frank Paynter
Evening! (9:15pm here) - Ian Waring
Is that Taschek? - Tom Guarriello
Penny's now saved for an iPhone 6 - Ian Waring
meh. I ditched the notion of saving for a iphone 6 and just jumped into buying a HTC one m8. So far I like it. - Chris Hale
Thanks to Scoble, I discovered "Steady" for iPhone. Great app! - Alex de Soto
Google photosphere is a UI nightmare - Ian Waring
Also, Amazon buys Twitch and Twitter opens up analytics to all users - christina sponselli
Lots of money and acquisitions happening the past few weeks in the automation/home automation realm - Chris Hale
Smart things got bought by samsung, and IFTTT just got a bunch of dough. - Chris Hale
The math to correct for motion is cool! :) - Ann Greenberg
And the August lock just announced IOS 8 homekit support.(Note: it looks like they are finally shipping august locks as well) - Chris Hale
here's my hyperlapse: http://youtu.be/UYN_Ta6PBbs - Kevin Marks
I think I saw Scoble demo this this week... - Frank Paynter
If KP says it's worth $10b... - Tom Guarriello
It's still tulips all the way down - Frank Paynter
Good to see JT back - Moe Glitz from iPhone
LG announced an android wear smartwatch this week. - Chris Hale
It doesnt look half bad. - Chris Hale
They are launching other services today. See Techcrunch - Moe Glitz from iPhone
JT back. Enterprise on! - clive boulton
I bought 18 LG 300 watt photovoltaic panels this week. - Frank Paynter
We've missed John a lot, Clive - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm calling to sell life insurance!!! :) - Josh Bradshaw
My son runs iOS 8 - has passbook putting app icons on lock screen by location - Tesco stores included - Ian Waring
And the people who write these "apps" are entrepreneurs who have something called "starts-up," amiright? - Frank Paynter
I dont know much about how the app connectivity stuff is going to work really, i think its only useful if someone builds a nice centralized directory of inter app communications - Chris Hale
Hyperlapse would seem to be a good candidate for deep linking - post directly to Instagram for instance... - Ian McGee
+10 Tina - clive boulton
iPhone6 NFC rumors are definitely heating up - Tom Guarriello
And the "starts-up" are the core of infotech and the global networking environmnet, amiright? - Frank Paynter
I'm predicting Sept. 9 will unveil the "Internet of iThings" including wearables. - Alex de Soto
"Adorable Wearables" is my new start-up, I'm hoping Kleiner Perkins will front me a few billion for the idea. - Frank Paynter
I am really hoping NFC will be on iphone 6. I am getting sick and tired of carrying around credit cards. - Chris Hale
Favorites are a great signal for engagement for brands, too - christina sponselli
Endorsements - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I see a few of us are a little loopy from being out on a school night, las tnight - Tina Chase Gillmor
I wont be buying an iphone6 but apple really needs to choose a direction on mobile payments since they are really in the industry spotlight and I think that NFC registers will become ubiquitous if apple finally throws its weight behind this communication standard. - Chris Hale
Chris... Apple is getting into payments full blast - Tina Chase Gillmor
payment industry really needs some technological disruption. It is an industry that is overdue - Chris Hale
Yo! Is notifying me every time Pmarca initiates a tweet storm - Ian Waring
Kevin: Likelihood of smartphone apps on desktop using local message passing to make up a complete business application? [chome/dart/winjs/ios...] - clive boulton
BurningMan - End-of-summer camp for Silicon Valley - Tina Chase Gillmor
Good to hear @Tina. I figured they need to do something. - Chris Hale
We don't really understand how anything works on the Internet, do we? - Tom Guarriello
is Keith drumming? - Kevin Marks
I wonder if anybody from Apple is allowed to go to Burning Man. - Alex de Soto
Favorites is also used to bookmark tweets that you want to follow up with later, such as read content via a link - christina sponselli
Kevin?...[chome/dart/winjs/ios...] - clive boulton
I have 3 technology toys I am planning on testing out soon to decide how I want to rid myself of credit cards. I will be testing out Google Wallet on my phone, Loop pay fob, and I am hopefully also getting my beta coin card. - Chris Hale
these are some ADORABLE WEARABLES! - Frank Paynter
Forget the iWatch. On September 9th, Apple may show us more than one "embodiment" of their "wearable" mobile devices. Some of them coupling with various styles of electronic wearable accessories like a wristband. With more devices and accessories to couple with (desk, travel, home and car accessories, and sports equipment) to come. - Alex de Soto
Apple need a product launch in spring cause too many products released in fall - Moe Glitz from iPhone
fall is xmas presents, spring is macs - Kevin Marks
Asus is also teasing a smartwatch release for next week as well - Chris Hale
Think the Watch will launch with Macs - Moe Glitz from iPhone
JT: Likelihood smartphone apps morph on desktop using local message passing to make up a complete micro-enterprise application? [office/crm/sap] - You (edit | delete) - clive boulton
Plus the 12.9 inch iPad - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I seriously believe these smartwatches biggest and most valuable use case will be for home automation purposes - Chris Hale
not sure about that clive- - Kevin Marks
John, can the phone use both cellular and wireless signal? - christina sponselli
Apple HomeKit is all Siri driven... - Ian Waring
I'm with John. Leave the phone behind. Chip miniaturization and efficiency will make it possible. - Alex de Soto
I envision a world here pretty soon where your watch can be used for permiter access like unlocking your lockitron or august door locks, and maybe as you walk from room to room, the home knows where you go and turns on lights, etc - Chris Hale
Continuity feature. - Alex de Soto
The piconet will have a variety of instruments. I agree that the internet of household things will be driven by an onbody instrument. - Arnie Klaus
last think I want is my watch to be another thing to ring for calls - Kevin Marks
Wait. My phone IS still a telephone? ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
+10 Kevin - Tom Guarriello
Ifttt - Ian Waring
Would not want another "telephone" but a device able to connect to the network. - Alex de Soto
I totally agree with @kevinMarks on notifications being useful use case for watches. I am totally onboard with smart watches because I would rather drain a watches battery than deal with the serious battery drain from using my phone all the time - Chris Hale
I'm guessing the big box at the announcement location is a futurama house. - Arnie Klaus
Pretty sure that the iWatch will be marketed around monitoring your Health Wellbeing - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i wish I could post a photo to this chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
Here is how the enterprise can use smart watches. It might collude with health insurance companies to offer you a discount on insurance based on how much fitness you do based on monitoring the sensors on a smart watch - Chris Hale
I agree with @keith - Chris Hale
I think you are all underestimating the fashion statement that the Iwatch will be - Tony Stanislawski
Agree, Tony - Tom Guarriello
Apple's wearable(s) must be different from all of those watches or they will fail. - Alex de Soto
Rather than piddy little screen and battery, give me a full wrist strap like Fuelband wearable like a watch 24/7 - clive boulton
Health health health - Ian Waring
quality - Tina Chase Gillmor
The Rolex of wearables - Tom Guarriello
I agree with @scoble - Chris Hale
Exactly Robert! - Tony Stanislawski
Glucose level monitor using infra red on skin - non invasive - Ian Waring
watches will only succeed if they are fashionable - Chris Hale
@scoble is right; people will use wearable technology to make a statement about who they are - Josh Bradshaw
Rolex $3000 up - clive boulton
Robert is correct. But it will be more than one thing. - Alex de Soto
does that work, ian? - Kevin Marks
The phone is 2007 - Tom Guarriello
I still wear a real watch! Can't wait to replace it. - Tony Stanislawski
Phones are also getting bigger and bigger. - Alex de Soto
I think Scoble stumbled onto an interesting idea. Using a watch to exchange information like phone numbers or contact info is a brilliant use case for watches. - Chris Hale
Poor Scott! - Tony Stanislawski
Stumbled, Chris?? Lol - Tom Guarriello
chris that's been the "beam contact" idea for years, never quite works - Kevin Marks
back in my day we used to get digits by the old fashioned pen and napkins - Chris Hale
wasn't that angstro? - Kevin Marks
I think all the doubters are seriously underestimating what Apple can do! We don't know we want one yet. 2 years from now everyone will have one! - Tony Stanislawski
Casio G Shock: one to beat. - clive boulton
Personalized iBeacons? - Alex de Soto
the problem with sending notifications to your watch about the person you are talking to is that they see them first if your wrist is facing them - Kevin Marks
I know its the "beam contact" concept but nobody has really made a simple ubiquitous/popular way to easily wirelessly transmit information. I think if apple does NFC on there phones and possibly on the watch or beacons on a watch , i think its huge for that notion of contact less close quarters information transmission - Chris Hale
I think that the big white building going up next to the Flint Center is all about fashion. - Alex de Soto
Don't know if it works. In the labs yes, but accuracy in the field is much more key - Ian Waring
Flint Center is an interesting choice - they used that for the Mac and iMac launches - Kevin Marks
Tim Cook strutting his stuff on the Catwalk - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Fire sale from Frys, still have a Fossil Palm Pilot watch, it's huge! http://www.gizmag.com/go/1641/ - clive boulton
Its the Operating System around the body, home, business with many accessories - Arnie Klaus
+1 Steve's humor today - christina sponselli
That's what I think Arnie Klaus. - Alex de Soto
above a photo of Robert from last night showing us his red wearable - Tina Chase Gillmor
HomeKit is Siri based - Ian Waring
as usual @Scoble has a good point - Chris Hale
i just make "important" emails show up on the watch - Kevin Marks
@Kevin, which watch are you sporting right now? The samsung? - Chris Hale
Siri will be key on the iWatch. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
the LG - Kevin Marks
I think the challenge will be to get men to wear the fashion wireless earing type earbuds. - Arnie Klaus
How many young people use email outside of school? They will not care about getting email on their "watch." - Alex de Soto
I don't think siri will be good on a watch. I think the hard part of UI and functionality on a watch is knowing/teaching a user what they can/can't do with the watch - Chris Hale
ok google is good on the watch - Kevin Marks
wait. That's Steve's job to call bullshit - Tina Chase Gillmor
Ok Google has started to give answers in the same accent as read to it - Ian Waring
Guardians of Galaxy - fun movie of the summer! - Tom Guarriello
that was faked ian - Kevin Marks
Awesome! Grumby need to remember that - Tony Stanislawski
Us, Australian, British... On TWIG this week - Ian Waring
I heard it and it was faked - Kevin Marks
I am holding out for the Moto 360 watch. - Chris Hale
you can switch the accent - Kevin Marks
yeah, I only work when touched, too. Oops. ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
they have "Indian English" too - Kevin Marks
My dentist put a wearable device on my wrist: blood pressure, pulse; placed over my chest. - clive boulton
Beacons already sense by proximity - no signal, can hear signal, within 10 feet, immediately adjacent - Ian Waring
Name of show: "Grumby gets an iWatch." - Alex de Soto
@kevin, brilliant observation - Chris Hale
No swipes. No taps. I'm with Keith. - Alex de Soto
No Iwatches yet in the paintings... - Tony Stanislawski
I dare say that idea could be transformative - Chris Hale
Whats in the box? - Arnie Klaus
There were no pictures of that! - Tony Stanislawski
Pictures of what? - Robert Scoble
The Ice Cream - Tony Stanislawski
Game of Drones - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Retailers + Google vs Amazon - Ian Waring
I'd like to see a drone that embodies a journalist, which can be used in war zones (no direct threat to life) - Simon Benvenutto
Amazon versus Google - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Hunch Chromedroid underway. - clive boulton
Its how they delivered the mars lander - Arnie Klaus
Google is watching too many Wile E. Coyote cartoons. - Alex de Soto
UK Terrorist Threat level raised - must be more censorship on way - Ian Waring
Fears of Great British Bake Off riots, Ian - Tom Guarriello
Drones being wrestled to the ground by puppies: adorbs! - Francine Hardaway from Android
All hardware will circle around a common OS...Apple - Arnie Klaus
The UK creates its own Terror Treats to control its own people - Moe Glitz from iPhone
One should always validate one's self - Francine Hardaway from Android
That's not legal in red states, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Jawbone's patents on lifeotypes point to medical watch http://on.ft.com/1rtDfoF / - clive boulton
Man, Scoble and Kevin M have had some exceptionally awesome points this week - Chris Hale
might need to do some editing this week... - Ludwig Ederle
Same here - for one of the iphones - Ian Waring
Ipads become are one of the appliances around the house. - Arnie Klaus
Thanks for info, Keith. Any recommendation for live sports without cable? - christina sponselli
Happy Labor Day everyone....stay safe and have fun! - Tony Stanislawski
57 Channels and nothing on - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Nice clarity too - Arnie Klaus
Yay Tina! - Tom Guarriello
Have a great weekend! Skip the grumby meat barbecue! - Alex de Soto
Kiro HD via TV antenna is stunning - clive boulton
iGrumby - Josh Bradshaw
Meet The Press? Exciting? That'll be interesting... - Tom Guarriello
Name this show: iHypnotized. - clive boulton
Au revour - Ian Waring
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 11am PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
On board :-) - Ian Waring
here - Kevin Marks
Me too - Keith Teare
Sold my Chromebook Pixel ready to fund an iPhone 6 ;-) - Ian Waring
Here. Not sure my wine is, though. ;-) - Robert Scoble
Skype is having troubles starting up for me. Hopefully it works. - Robert Scoble
Plug in the computer ! - David Malone
It looks like it might work. - Robert Scoble
OK, call now - Kevin Marks
Yo! is reporting every Marc Andreessen tweet storm to me now - but doesn't remember history if I want to go back later - Ian Waring
But I don't even see the test pattern - Francine Hardaway
I'm getting the old SF venetian blinds - Ian Waring
Twitter inserting random extras into my feed. If an RSS feed did that, i'd eject it - Ian Waring
Have real test card nw - Ian Waring
s/nw/now - Ian Waring
Have audio - Ian Waring
Bonjour - Ian Waring
lots of rubble on main street http://www.sfgate.com/news... - Kevin Marks
earthquakes are probably one of the biggest reasons i really dont think i could ever move to CA - Chris Hale
I feel the same way about the midwest and tornadoes - Kevin Marks
i went to twitter first - Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, i didn't see much on Facebook at first - Tina Chase Gillmor
i think twitter is a better source for realtime news. IMHO - Chris Hale
I just wanted confirmation that I wasn't dreaming or a dog wasn't crazy-scratching on the bed - Tina Chase Gillmor
Wonder if the Westin in Napa suffered much damage. - Francine Hardaway
Francine: I doubt it. That's a modern building. The damage is with bricks falling. - Robert Scoble
greenwalsd - Jan Winter
I was surprised that I couldn't get instant confirmation - Tina Chase Gillmor
What do yall think about state or gov involvement should be in using tech to notify the public about natural disaster type issues like this? What do yall think it should be? - Chris Hale
usgs is the place for confirmation - Kevin Marks
yeah i think there should be a break thru tweet for something like disasters or dangerous situations - Tina Chase Gillmor
they have feeds and tweets - Kevin Marks
i wonder which list I am on in Scobles FB - Chris Hale
there used to be a thing called snapkite that displayed mobile images posted against a given search terms in Twitter - Ian Waring
@tina that was what I was curious about. In TX My cell phone provider sends me amber alerts that they make a pain to opt out of. Historically radio has the emergency broadcast functions. Why doesnt someone propose a way to handle notifications of this type of thing. Seems kinda ludicrous i can get an amber alert about missing children but nothing about earthquakes. - Chris Hale
Facebook used to have a auto generated list based on places, where in the feed would be showing the news items from the places I have live or live. In events like this this would be useful since most of the people from that particular area would be posting more about the event. And combined that with commenting system and FB's media type, it would be better.. - Satyajit
@Chris - yes, agree. In these instances I want credible info fast. and I want it pushed at me - Tina Chase Gillmor
@the dutch goverment has implemented a notification system, alerting people on mobile in case of an emergency - Jan Winter
i think the assumption is that you feel an earthquake if it matters, and they can't give you advance notice - Kevin Marks
snapkite.com and search for earthquake - Ian Waring
i got a really weird warning from my cell phone company a month or two ago when there were flash floods in my area. I realized that notification was darn near useless because i had no context. I couldnt for the life of me figure out where it was that was actually flooded. - Chris Hale
All Facebook needs is a Real-time Events #Page - Moe Glitz from iPhone
did he say Kremlinology? - Tina Chase Gillmor
John Lenin - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Tina, can you modernize him please? - Francine Hardaway
only thing with snapkite.com is that searches for pizza is a safe bet, "wife" isn't... - Ian Waring
Moe he,he - Tina Chase Gillmor
I look a twitter, then http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ - Kevin Marks
its interesting to see the landscape of how peoples disaster recovery strategies have subtly changed as technology has evolved - Chris Hale
Francine - if only I could. I did give him children. Best I could do. ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Chelsea and Temple said their glass rattled, Robert. But Chelsea slept through it. - Francine Hardaway
They have modernized him a bit - Francine Hardaway
if i were in california i would look to see if ifttt has a earthquake recipe and see if you could hook it up to phillips hue lights and make them glow a certain color in case of earthquake. Seems like that is a good use case for multi colored lights - Chris Hale
The Beatles - Moe Glitz from iPhone
1:1 - they were poor - Ian Waring
Manchester Utd urgently need Di Maria - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Every brick in the wall - Ian Waring
OK we did have on thing that was on the floor in the studio but it was gingerly positioned on a shelf to begin with. It's Steve's SciFi award. You can see it on the back shelf - Tina Chase Gillmor
oooh, Kevin's drinking something very green today. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Green smoothie? - Tina Chase Gillmor
i am so angry at that coin issue - Chris Hale
I funded ScratchJr to teach kids 5-7 to program on iPads and Android Tabs - Ian Waring
I personally think coin is now dead on arrival. - Chris Hale
I bought a PONO - Francine Hardaway
yesterdays email i got from coin made me decide to switch to try out loop instead. Anybody here tried loop? http://www.looppay.com/ - Chris Hale
Or that is, I ordered a PONO. I'll let you know if I get one - Francine Hardaway
Kale, celery, apple, zucchini, lemon, ginger juice blend - Kevin Marks
And I thought you said PORNO - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i think coin will be DOA because by the time coin finally releases its generation 1 product to the masses, we will already be starting down the road of converting to chip and pin. - Chris Hale
Money Apps will win in the long term - Moe Glitz from iPhone
@Moe, what do you mean? - Chris Hale
Surprised that PayPal has not made bigger waves in the App World - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Chris Hale I agree - Francine Hardaway
I will now start re-reading Neil Young's book. I just finished Graham Nash's book, and I think I liked it better. - Francine Hardaway
I agree. Its so frustrating from a consumers point of view though. I am sure this whole thing has been talked about half to death but Google wallet seemed like a good solution, NFC payments seem like a great solution. I really want to be able to do away with all my magnetic cards. Wallets annoy me alot. I have back problems and keeping a wallet doesnt help. - Chris Hale
Whoever gets the right Money App for Mobile wins big time - Moe Glitz from iPhone
i agree. I think nothing has saturated the market as a winner because apple keeps sitting on the fence. - Chris Hale
I have finally decided to move away from an iphone as my main device. - Chris Hale
needs to be secure. see the point of sale hacks that were in the news this week - Jan Winter
@keith thats awesome you are using virtual teams. I wish more folks adopted that model - Chris Hale
I'm not super impressed with ProductHunt. - Kevin Costain
Kevin: why? - Robert Scoble
Start-ups are less and less clue-full, maybe? I mean, "Plink?" "Uber Watch?" - Frank Paynter
why what? - Kevin Marks
@Jan, i totally agree. I ultimately want to use my phone for payments. Some of the things I look forward to is the ability to quickly change credentials if somehow my account becomes comprimised. - Chris Hale
haha.. I think Robert was asking me KMarks.. :) - Kevin Costain
I could name that tune in two notes... - Frank Paynter
I should keep my receipts for my most recent startup to see how much its costing me. So far i am at about 300 , dunno what it will be by launch time - Chris Hale
Yo got much better now that it gives breaking news - Francine Hardaway
That's how I get my Marc Andreessen Tweet storm notifications now - Ian Waring
It's not entertainment, it's the successor to Twitter - Francine Hardaway
I posted that pic 20 mins ago - Kevin Marks
Product Hunt is not a major company; it's niche. The general public doesn't care much about finding new products. I, however, love Product Hunt. - Francine Hardaway
I just installed the iOS version of ProductHunt.. and I'm very interested in what it does.. Very interested. But, I look at it, and it feels very clunky. Information about each of the products feels hard to get to. I think this could really improve. I'm sticking with it for now because it's probably better than pouring over every technology post in Reddit.. haha - Kevin Costain
Kevin, try Product Hunt on the web. Much better - Francine Hardaway
hey @keith, if the pono doesn't work well it looks like it could double as a really fashionable doorstop - Chris Hale
Kevin: agreed. (Costain). - Robert Scoble
I will try that Francine. Thanks. - Kevin Costain
Why are reddit censoring Product Hunt posts? - Ian Waring
with that last cut from Kevin to Keith it looked like Keith was about to grab Kevin's drink - Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple Apple Apple - Ian Waring
shouldn't it be a user decision to opt-out on certain news events? - Jan Winter
Everything's amazing, and nobody's happy -- Louis CK - Francine Hardaway
Which is crap - Ian Waring
I watched it. It wasn't fun. - Francine Hardaway
North Americans are culturally miserable. - Kevin Costain
Anybody seen the movie, "The City That Waits to Die?" Maybe forty years old or more but interesting and contains the same kind of good info Robert is sharing. - Frank Paynter
Jean Claude Gassee has just released a Monday Note about IBM:Apple and alliances history - Ian Waring
Welp, guys and gals.. I have to run. Stay safe... have a good one. - Kevin Costain
My router went down during the Cuban missile crisis... but I was in a public school. - Frank Paynter
Duck and cover... - Frank Paynter
Big iPhone! - J.C. Bouvier
sold my Chromebook Pixel to fund mine - Ian Waring
And Microsoft is the beyond the recovery network - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Not quite - very detailed analysis - Ian Waring
agree with @kevinmarks! - Chris Hale
Anyone want to buy a Netbook! ;) - J.C. Bouvier
My son gets Tesco on his lock screen as he walks into their stores already - Ian Waring
One Annual Software Update - perfect - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Does Marks and Sparks serve up a signal? - Frank Paynter
@kevinmarks don't hate on Texans - Chris Hale
Siri vs Siri: "No, the RED ZONE is for loading and unloading. The WHITE ZONE is for...." - Dale Lature
Android Annual Software Updates - not perfect - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm not hating texas, that's just what I sound like while faking an accent for my car - Kevin Marks
Actors Studio with Robin Williams was great too - Ian Waring
One audience member had to be taken to hospital for laughing too much - Ian Waring
Robin Williams was the best Live Performance Comedian ever - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Love Bob Newhart. Wish he and Don Rickles would do more. - Chien-Yu Lin
You did put that up - Francine Hardaway
@kevinmarks I know. Just razzing you a bit. - Chris Hale
Marc Canter wrote about that recently - Francine Hardaway
Chien-Yu... that would be great. They are good friends afterall - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yo! - Ian Waring
They do comedians going for coffee - Francine Hardaway
Google+ is dead - Tina Chase Gillmor
TIna, I really disagree. - Francine Hardaway
Google- - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Google+ is a troll free zone though - Ian Waring
It isn't dead but it is wounded and falling behind. - Robert Scoble
Ian: only if you don't praise Facebook. Hah. - Robert Scoble
Really enjoyed today's show! Yall in california stay safe - Chris Hale
Thanks - see you next (Friday)? - Ian Waring
Great show - Moe Glitz from iPhone
TY - Jan Winter
Great show! - Francine Hardaway
We LOVED Chuck Todd - Francine Hardaway
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor... http://friendfeed.com/stevegi...
Hi Res Test Card :-) - Ian Waring
Yo! - Ian Waring
hello - Kevin Marks
if you can really see the zone plates something is going on - Kevin Marks
Hey @Kevin, do you have a link to the Wired article you referenced from last weeks show? I couldn't find anything resembling the mention on the Wired site... - J.C. Bouvier
what was I talking about - Kevin Marks
UK Cat present - Ian Waring
wired article about what, JC - Kevin Marks
Sorry - England Cat present - Ian Waring
Tina: Pool boy in the house? - Alex de Soto
some other tech news. Samsung bought smarthings - Chris Hale
anything else? - Kevin Marks
I just watched the White Queen.. and it was interesting to see the UK appear to develop at the very end.. where Henry IV who brought the band together. - mary hodder
so now you can start Hollow Crown? - Kevin Marks
also, its kinda interesting Motorola is scheduling a product launch almost at the time Apple is supposed to announce iphone 6 / iwatch announcement - Chris Hale
@Kevin, yah, that's the question! Steve referred to a 'multi-retweeted Wired article' and you said something like 'oh yah, the sever...I really enjoyed that...' and then you both trailed off...in the context of the messaging app splitting convo...not that big a deal, but sounded interesting and thought I would ask is all...no worries. - J.C. Bouvier
FU, Keith!!! - Tom Guarriello
That's right!! - Tom Guarriello
forgetta bout it! - Chris Hale
ah, this one about Stewart and Slack http://www.wired.com/2014... - Kevin Marks
there might be another chat. Can someone find it and redirect here please - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tx Kevin! - J.C. Bouvier
Good article on trolls by Farhad Manjoo in the NEW YORK Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014... - Alex de Soto
Anonymity makes the veneer of civility even harder to maintain online than it is off. - Tom Guarriello
:-) - Keith Teare
So @Robert. Do you think this move by samsung will spark more large companies to try and buyout these smaller home automation companies? - Chris Hale
What about Andreessen investing in Buzzfeed. Media is becoming like Software regarding upscaling and low marginal costs .... Ben Thompson wrote some nice piece here: http://stratechery.com/2014... - Frank Drews
Or abuse by every low energy bluetooth beacon you pass... - Ian Waring
Chris: the great purchases are disappearing fast. - Robert Scoble
fascinating that Twitter ignored Del on block http://www.forbes.com/sites... - Kevin Marks
Hehe. I ask because that was one of the points i made last you and I got to sit down and talk. I predicted a land grab for these types of companies. Its interesting to watch it come true - Chris Hale
Jezebel’s staff: “It’s like playing Whac-a-Mole with a sociopathic Hydra,” - Alex de Soto
"Not listening to Harvey tends to be a bad idea. Last December Twitter decided to eliminate users’ ability to “block” people they didn’t like from following and retweeting their accounts, replacing it with a mute option so they simply wouldn’t see the trolls in their feed. Harvey warned it was a terrible idea and would make cyberbullying easier. The blocking feature was pulled anyway,... more... - Kevin Marks
Same at Demon Keith - Ian Waring
ACPO visits - Ian Waring
abandon ship - Tina Chase Gillmor
So, everyones headed to 4chan? - Ian Waring
lowest common denominator - Ian Waring
Twitter needs a "Parody Account" badge too - Ian Waring
Instead of starring (favoriting) a tweet, we should have a dislike function. - Alex de Soto
like Jeff Jarvis arguing with his parody? - Kevin Marks
exactly - Ian Waring
there is a "block or report" button - Kevin Marks
though the "report" is a bit crap - Kevin Marks
Kevin: Don't really want to block or report everything that sucks. - Alex de Soto
You think every person online should do that? - Francine Hardaway
My FB comments are not a cesspool - Francine Hardaway
Facebook has 50,000 one-star ratings (95%) on its messenger app-spit. https://plus.google.com/1169918... - clive boulton
People fear authority. Full stop. - Tom Guarriello
+10 Robert - Tom Guarriello
Complex stuff - Frank Paynter
I'm a mother, therefore I believe in consequences. That's how you teach children - Francine Hardaway
And some of these trolls are only large children - Francine Hardaway
Logical consequences makes civility possible - Tom Guarriello
see j.mp/twittertheory for how twitter used to work - Kevin Marks
Yep, agree consequences are important. But not important enough to make me want to ban anonymity - Keith Teare
it will be at ustream.tv/G3 - Tina Chase Gillmor
was wondering where everybody went - Ankush Narula
Yeah G3! - christina sponselli
thanks Christina - Tina Chase Gillmor
Here is a good example of an anon article.. which I think really shows one of the best version of anon communication: http://www.forbes.com/sites... - mary hodder
Ankush - I think I may have published the wrong link somehow. glad you found this chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
Interesting info on Robin Williams found by Cory Doctorow today: insisted that all productions he was involved in hired homeless people http://mostlysignssomeportents... - Ben Werdmuller
thanks Tina :-) - Ankush Narula
Well said, Steve - Tom Guarriello
Thanks Christina - mary hodder
Huge emotional impact because he gave so much to us - Francine Hardaway
+1000 Steve - I don't think anyone thought he would go that way... - J.C. Bouvier
he was our doctor, of sorts - Tina Chase Gillmor
vulnerability - Tina Chase Gillmor
she had it. robin had it - Tina Chase Gillmor
His enormous humanity...the scope of his spirit...was distinctive - Tom Guarriello
he jumped through time. he was a time travler - Tina Chase Gillmor
I Want To Live : Robin Williams’ death helped me understand something. https://medium.com/the-nib... - clive boulton
is it just me or is there a hitch in the stream? - Frank Paynter
melding culture connecting us all - Tina Chase Gillmor
The stream is likely sharded (will sort itself out) - clive boulton
Being in Robin Williams' presence was electric. I stood in a group of four people with him at TED one day and the experience was unforgettable. - Tom Guarriello
Clive: a million people protested the news feed. Users often protest change. - Robert Scoble
Tom: I'm so jealous. - Robert Scoble
This Keith guy is pretty smart... - Frank Paynter
I listened again to his Actors Studio interview on Bravo. Woman there was hospitalised from laughing too much. Also replayed "Who's line is it anyway" with him in it. Genius. - Ian Waring
Ferguson and Gaza? they connect when the guys in Gaza give advice to the guys in Ferguson about how to deal with tear gas. - mary hodder
I am sad that WIlliams, George Carlin and Richard Pryor are all gone. I will miss them all. - Alex de Soto
I heard all that on The Sixties. And I'm reading Graham Nash's autobiography. - Francine Hardaway
Mary: great point! - Robert Scoble
Robert, it was one of the most amazing 10 minutes of my life - Tom Guarriello
Alex: agreed. - Robert Scoble
Eddie Izzard tribute to RW: http://beta.bbc.com/news... - Ankush Narula
Mary Hodder that would be funny if it weren't so terrible - Francine Hardaway
+1 Steve's comment. Militarization of domestic police forces. - christina sponselli
Tom: I bet. I've had a few of those kinds of experiences, including being on the floor at TED shooting Bill Gates while he talked with people about nuclear energy. - Robert Scoble
It's the forty-fifth annvsy of that upstate NY rock concert today. - Frank Paynter
John Cleese doing Eulogy to Graham Chapman was brilliant too - Ian Waring
Francine - Steve reading that one too. He read Neil Young's just prior. Steve's like "boy, these guys saw the same situation so differently" - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert: yes. good point. I changed enterprise apps. Almost a mutiny. - clive boulton
Robert: Thorium is the future indeed - Ankush Narula
Robert, were you at TED the year he took over the stage when BBC had technical difficulties during an interview? Incredible. - Tom Guarriello
Robin travelled through time and took us with him on a ride - Tina Chase Gillmor
What was the name of that comedy club on Clement near 9th Ave? - Frank Paynter
it could have been a medicine shift too - Tina Chase Gillmor
Right. He was struggling with many things. - Francine Hardaway
shifting meds can be deadly - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, I also read Neil Young's. - Francine Hardaway
I know a lot of comedians... they are not necessarily happy people - Tina Chase Gillmor
Does it matter how/why really? He's gone. It's awful and sad. - Ankush Narula
Cracked.com is the site - Francine Hardaway
Would somebody google that for me? - Frank Paynter
I'm not on Xanax - I'm on Klonopin - Ankush Narula
I'm on sucrose. - Frank Paynter
Psychotropic meds are no picnic - Tom Guarriello
I'm on Lexapro. Have been for 20 years. Manages my anxiety and depression quite well - Francine Hardaway
Im on a drug called awesome. - Chris Hale
+1 +1 "Comedians not necessarily happy people" - clive boulton
That's so good to hear, Francine - Tom Guarriello
and not to mention that mental health help is very difficult to get.... good help... and the help isn't always helpful - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, I am interested in hearing about your thoughts about depression in Enterpreneur types. - Chris Hale
Chris - I need some of that awesome - Ankush Narula
In the not too distant future, people will look at our era's treatment of mental illness the way we view leeches, trepanning, etc. - Andrew Hazlett
Tina: not to mention, it isn't free. Insurance often doesn't cover therapy. - Robert Scoble
It was the Holy City Zoo. Thanks everybody. - Frank Paynter
depression is when you can't feel anything.. you're black inside.. and you can't see any future.. it doesn't exist. - mary hodder
it doesn't even sound as bad as it is.. - mary hodder
mind what you EAT. this has a MAJOR effect in what you ARE. - flyinthesoup
I think it's a wind up - Daniel W. Crompton
My health plan (effectively): Mental health call this 800# - clive boulton
Let's all turn off the screens/phones for one weekday per week - I'm almost positive it will improve overall mental health - Ankush Narula
Entrepreneurs are are similar to comedians and public figures in a some ways. Sometimes that dark side is a thing that drives people forward - Chris Hale
The first part of my career, 20+ years, was spent working as a clinical psychologist. The mental health system in the US is shameful. - Tom Guarriello
We'll get to Yo! 1.1 and Slack... - Ian Waring
Corporate culture trumps strategy and intelligence. It's really amazing. - Tom Guarriello
There is enough experience in this room to discuss depression and it's very real effects upon daily life. As opposed to the heartless comments that are flying around from self proclaimed "Normal" people. - Aron Michalski
@tom what part is shameful that you are referring to? - Chris Hale
Microsoft needs to forget hardware altogether. - Alex de Soto
I am not disagreeing , just curious - Chris Hale
MSR has so many good engineers blocked - clive boulton
Chris, the failure to recognize mental health needs as equal to any other health needs, for a start. - Tom Guarriello
I completely agree Tom. - Chris Hale
TOm agreed - Tina Chase Gillmor
Can we get back to trepanning? - Frank Paynter
Getting paid for forty, work forty - Frank Paynter
you might also make your mark and go off and get funding to start something awesome - Ankush Narula
I think everybody recognizes mental health needs, but they don't want to admit they have them themselves - Francine Hardaway
I have been exceptionally intellectually curious about behavioral patterns in entrepreneurs. I am an entrepreneur and I want to see some of the patterns that can be derived from other entreprenuers. - Chris Hale
Everyone would like to people to think they are just fine. - Francine Hardaway
Insider. To get one feature added to SQL Server typically requires moving the dial by $200 million. - clive boulton
"I'm just fine" NOT - Tina Chase Gillmor
There's a lot of research about entrepreneurs: they have poor concentration, ADD, are prone to anxiety and depression, and have high risk tolerance - Francine Hardaway
I've learned to recognize, Tina, when I am just fine and when I am not. And when I am not, I go to friends, yoga, meditation, and -- interesting enough -- Facebook. - Francine Hardaway
gets back to what Nadella thinks is MS's future core competence - which is still confused - Ian Waring
my previous health insurance didn't cover ANY mental health issues. My new one does and it just required a doubling of the premium. - Aron Michalski
That's part of the "shamefulness" I was referring to, Aron. - Tom Guarriello
Some of this platform talk is a little meta-meta... - Frank Paynter
Is it too late to say Robin Williams really touched me when I was a kid? - Ankush Narula
doldrums - Tina Chase Gillmor
Network is the system... (copyright DEC 1977) - Ian Waring
(he would have laughed) - Ankush Narula
if you're building a networked refrigerator inventory product, then all the consumer platforms are just a late phase in the dev cycle - Frank Paynter
Yo! API - John Borthwick's vision realised - Ian Waring
You mean next week.. in a week.. they leave. - mary hodder
Once a hippie, always a hippie. - christina sponselli
Yo! API permits notifications, subscriptions control, with 2 lines of JS or PHP - Ian Waring
steve quit dope for bourbon - Ankush Narula
I quit acid and mushrooms for wine and dope. - Francine Hardaway
Funny that: "Das Venture Capital" - Alex de Soto
I thought acid was a prerequisite for try disrupters - Simon Benvenutto
ZOMG.. and then they'll be talking glue: https://www.youtube.com/watch... - mary hodder
quality? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve: relo to Salesforce Seattle, you can eat legal pies. - clive boulton
Headline writers VC funded - Ian Waring
or Salesforce Boulder - Kevin Marks
Steve was referring to JUST pies not pot pies - Tina Chase Gillmor
Salesforce Netherlands? - Alex de Soto
Forget Buzzfeed, I want to invest in Clickhole! http://www.clickhole.com/ - Andrew Hazlett
You'll Never Believe The 7 Reasons Steve Gillmor Gave up Dope - mary hodder
Nee toch... - Daniel W. Crompton
Vice on Ice... where the puck is heading - Frank Paynter
Steve's big vice now is eating too many cashews - Tina Chase Gillmor
5 Ways Marxism is Better than Acid - mary hodder
SketchFactor anyone? - Alex de Soto
You can get high on a large dose of cashews? - Simon Benvenutto
click economy.... it sucks - Tina Chase Gillmor
A16Z defining Digital Ocean as "Open Source Software as a Service". Growing like a weed - Ian Waring
Damn, I stepped away for a minute. Whose headlines are we quoting? - Tom Guarriello
MAry.... he, he - Tina Chase Gillmor
Aren't they one of the Quiz Companies? - Frank Paynter
they have done quizzes - Kevin Marks
I love this Clickhole Buzzfeedized headline for... ALL of Moby DIck "The Time I Spent On A Commercial Whaling Ship Totally Changed My Perspective On The World" http://www.clickhole.com/blogpos... - Andrew Hazlett
...and with animated gifs - christina sponselli
Yo! should do this now... - Ian Waring
I post a lot of tech links on my twitter feed, the only stories that get likes/RTs are a specific subset (mostly javascript these days) - Adnan
Buzzfeed...oh yeah... - Tom Guarriello
21 Reasons Not To Visit Buzzfeed :-D - Ankush Narula
I love digital ocean. They are the hosting company I use for my businesses and clientts - Chris Hale
people care about "stars" not the human condition - Tina Chase Gillmor
Likewise. My Wordpress network on them. - Ian Waring
"What YOU didn't know about linkbait?" - Ankush Narula
Church is the content side? - Daniel W. Crompton
Daniel - yes - Keith Teare
Names make news ;) - Dave Martin
"What Food Combination Represents Your Relationship?" - Ankush Narula
But then you'd turn into an ignorant rude lout, Keith! ;) - Tom Guarriello
that's some deep journalism - Ankush Narula
Bazaar pointing at Cathedrals - Ian Waring
oh, wait... "seattlepi" ... I get it. - Frank Paynter
So if I understand Dan correctly, I should be posting only javascript links, but thats no fun - Adnan
It's native advertising.. verses native content.. http://humboldtsentinel.com/2014... - mary hodder
I think the toast beats buzzfeed hands down http://the-toast.net/2014... - Kevin Marks
Cathedral and the Bizarre - Frank Paynter
John Oliver suggests that if the advertisers get to direct content.. that the journalists should get to direct ads.. see video above.. very funny. - mary hodder
The Internet's Original Sin - The Atlantic http://theatln.tc/1mS16H0 - Ankush Narula
^^^ this kinda sums it up - Ankush Narula
John Oliver++ - Kevin Marks
Bit like the guy attacked by a machete in a NY bar of ill repute - "Headless man found in topless bar" - Ian Waring
Dan, what is yr opinion of Vox? - christina sponselli
12 ways Buzzfeed is better than Marxism (which is better than Acid) - mary hodder
+1 Ian - clive boulton
Mary - nothing is better than acid - Keith Teare
Facebook unbundling grief lacks an animal logo http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... - clive boulton
Once again, someone using the word "schizophrenic" when what they mean is "multiple personality." (Pet peeve.) - Tom Guarriello
anybody read "Retreat of the State" by Susan Strange? - Frank Paynter
"native advertising" = self-promotion - Tina Chase Gillmor
is Robert Scoble still alive? let's see..... - Tina Chase Gillmor
"native advertising" puts food on the table for a lot of free-lancers - Frank Paynter
Shouldn't that be "indigenous people's advertising" or "First Nation's People's advertising"? - Andrew Hazlett
Yo! can notify you when Andreessen releases a tweet storm also :-) - Ian Waring
(It's so much easier to comment here and post links -- to NATIVE advertising John Oliver video above -- when you aren't on the show.. than when you are on.. can't do it.) - mary hodder
yep, he's ok LOL - Tina Chase Gillmor
agreed mary - Kevin Marks
I have to shut up for a bit to go get them - Kevin Marks
as part of our content marketing I've been posting listicles on BuzzFeed, it does drive traffic. - Daniel W. Crompton
Man, Durkheim shows up on GG...heavy duty show today! - Tom Guarriello
Emile Durkheim! FTW - Frank Paynter
"A long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation." - Ankush Narula
Redmond should rehire Robert... - clive boulton
Sounds like the web - Ankush Narula
First world problems Mary and Kevin - Francine Hardaway
iBracelet? - Alex de Soto
when it comes to some informative reading together with monetization, I like what medium is doing here https://medium.com/re-form - Satyajit
How about talking about Humin being released this week. I know scoble likes Humin. I have been trying it and want to see others think - Chris Hale
you can blame deleuze for that - Kevin Marks
iPud 6.0! - Frank Paynter
link to that podcast podcast? - Andrew Hazlett
doesn't kevin get any cred for podcasting? - Ankush Narula
I've been listening to GG since it wasn't a podcast, then - Tom Guarriello
Yeah, Kevin contributed one of the critical pieces - Andrew Hazlett
audioscrobbling somehow become podcasting - Ankush Narula
Steve Chen taking Kevin's place at Google Ventures... - Tom Guarriello
I made the first script that put podcasts on an iPod, yep. - Kevin Marks
Interesting story about KKR promoting desert grown alfalfa for the Chinese dairy industry... exporting Colorado River water to Shanghai! - Frank Paynter
Including your abusive ex-boyfriend.. Humin is great for data-exhibitionists.. but not so great for those of us that might not want everything out there for various reasons. - mary hodder
Wasn't able to get the voice mail set up in Humin... ;( - J.C. Bouvier
no trail - Tina Chase Gillmor
hmm. That sounds interesting as a chat concept. - Chris Hale
No social consequences, the sociopath's anthem - Tom Guarriello
Dust blows forward and the dust blows back - Frank Paynter
that could be good for speed reading too! - Satyajit
Is this a dagger? - Frank Paynter
Is Scoble In This Room? Almost certainly not. We last saw Scoble 1223km away from you, 434 days ago. - clive boulton
mary hodder: I can only see people who have handed me a business card or who has friended me on Facebook. So, DE FACTO you have stuff out there. I just wish I could keep all that stuff up to date. Contacts rot over time. - Robert Scoble
Oh, this one is definitely important to me. Cisco just announced laying off 6k employees - Chris Hale
thats withknown.com - Kevin Marks
KEVIN, why known is based on PHP ? - flyinthesoup
Is this a dagger I see in front of me, with its handle pointing toward my hand? (to the dagger) Come, let me hold you. (he grabs at the air in front of him without touching anything) I don’t have you but I can still see you. Fateful apparition, isn’t it possible to touch you as well as see you? Or are you nothing more than a dagger created by the mind, a hallucination from my fevered... more... - Frank Paynter
yes, PHP for ease of hosting - Kevin Marks
it's nicely written PHP - Kevin Marks
what are yall taking about PHP? I missed the start of that thread - Chris Hale
please suggest guys to go with nodejs + markdown - flyinthesoup
you pasted a footnote too Frank - Kevin Marks
Huge inflection point re: robots forthcoming - Tom Guarriello
Im a 10+ yr php dev and love hearing new php stuff. At the same time, I am starting to lean more towards node - Chris Hale
we are talking it is a shame this indie WEB good initiative is born dead with PHP - flyinthesoup
Kevin: collections of Android / iPhone apps on desktops? - clive boulton
nodejs is still a bit hard to self-host - Kevin Marks
Kevin, why do you think node is hard to self host? - Chris Hale
thats just silly language partisanship, flyinthesoup - Kevin Marks
Kevin, you should never believe it - flyinthesoup
I saw that! TMI - Frank Paynter
Cliff Richard on the telly again - Ian Waring
it's easy on heroku, it's hard on a generic hosting provider - Kevin Marks
I was just into the sililoquy thing - Frank Paynter
+1 Ian - clive boulton
<sarcasm>but without node how are they going to get funded</sarcasm> - Adnan
Bravos, Dan. Well said! - Dave Martin
Meteor looks good atop node.js - Ian Waring
I was a lead devops engineer at a startup that had some public node sites and it wasnt so tough. It was actually fairly easy. Just install nginx and node and its pretty seamless - Chris Hale
Known needs to be hosted in places that host wordpress, which means MySQL+PHP - Kevin Marks
Chris: yeah, sad to see problems at Cisco, lots of people are being hurt, but that helps startups too, available humans to work. - Robert Scoble
Oh, kevin, that's not right to paint a "silly language partisanship" . This is the DEFACTO standard for ANY modern thinking web app - flyinthesoup
I think it was the Gaza strip folks - Andrew Hazlett
gaza!# - Ian Waring
there are indieweb apps in node too - Kevin Marks
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. H. L. Mencken - Andrew Hazlett
Kevin: on desktop collections of Android / iPhone apps vs Polymer components? - clive boulton
I agree @Robert. It affects me since I am a contractor for them. Thankfully the axe hasnt been weilded over my head - Chris Hale
73 - Ian Waring
Superinjunction city - Ian Waring
flyinthesoup you are talking bollocks. - Kevin Marks
I build stuff in node, python, ruby, PHP, Java, whatever - Kevin Marks
Google Elm Lodge Kitty Gladys - more... - Ian Waring
Speaking of wordpress hosting, I might be open sourcing some of my nginx config stuff on how to setup wordpress sites on nginx while using hhvm for php - Chris Hale
+1 Kevin - Adnan
George Carlin - Ankush Narula
Senor wences - Frank Paynter
@flyinthesoup - Just noticed the thread. CEO / lead developer of Known here. PHP was a pragmatic decision based on research and data. Not arbitrarily chosen. Supported platform is a feature. - Ben Werdmuller
node is quick to get up, but has a lot of immature libraries too - Kevin Marks
Netcraft monitor coverage of PHP sites worldwide for Zend - Ian Waring
Meteor.js on node! - Ian Waring
I love snarcasm - Ankush Narula
Jonathan Winters - christina sponselli
+1 christina - Tom Guarriello
devops luv go hate node - clive boulton
Thanks for ending on a positive note Steve. Louis C.K. is cool. He will step up! - Alex de Soto
@Kevin, I agree about library maturity. On the flip side, I am really digging a lot of the new js and node based tools that are springing up to help make developer workflow easier. Tools like yeoman, gulp and others make development really nice - Chris Hale
Keith - BBC say more people have come forward with more info... - Ian Waring
We're all bozos on this bus, Steve - Tom Guarriello
it seems that devops love ruby more than anything else - Ankush Narula
browserify is attractive too - Kevin Marks
The guy who was mentioning meteor, have you tried sails? Do you have an opinion on one or the other - Chris Hale
call me a "bollocks sayer" and stick with PHP and you'll see what happens to the world - flyinthesoup
No experience of Sails - Ian Waring
PHP was certain doom for Facebook after all - Kevin Marks
i have been teaching myself Sails this week and like its ability to scaffold REST apis really quick - Chris Hale
Awesome show Steve and gang! - Chris Hale
Gang, as always big thanks for taking time to share your thoughts with the rest of us. - Simon Benvenutto
That was great! - Daniel W. Crompton
au revoir, over and out - until the next time - Ian Waring
Another outstanding GG - Tom Guarriello
Great show, have a nice weekend all... - J.C. Bouvier
@flyinthesoup. I still really love php as a language. Have you seen react php? - Chris Hale
wow.... it was a nice show - Tina Chase Gillmor
Love it when I catch these live. Thanks everyone; awesome as always. - Ben Werdmuller
I find bits of PHP very annoying, but you don't have to use them. - Kevin Marks
i liked it.... seems like all we could think about this week - Tina Chase Gillmor
@kevin, very true. I cheat when i write javascript i use http://php.js when i get pissed that js doesnt have some of php's cooler functions - Chris Hale
@ben, i really appretiate you stepping in and please take my comment as a compliment for your initiative. I am sorry Kevin is talking "bollocks", but i do believe the speed things happen perfectly justifies going for nodejs with ANY indie initiative. - flyinthesoup
this is due to NPM and all the ecosystem of modules and flexible app creation taht comes with it - flyinthesoup
@Kevin, where do you work again? Its cool that you get to work on writing in a bunch of different languages - Chris Hale
I'm independent, and I am advising a few startups (including Known) - Kevin Marks
I think every language has a package manager nowadays @flyinthesoup. PHP=composer, javascript web=bower, node=npm, ruby= gem - Chris Hale
yes @Chris, but we're talking about a single language in front & back end - flyinthesoup
flyinthesoup: I'm happy for you to use node for your projects - i use it form some of mine too. You seem to have a bad case of "golden hammer" syndrome when you insist everyone else should use it too - Kevin Marks
I plan to try some Go next - Kevin Marks
so @kevin, in what capacity are you advising startups. I am curious because I have a few initiatives I am working on and I know I always need advice on different aspects of things. - Chris Hale
If you want to read me saying nice things about node, try http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012... - Kevin Marks
i see you insisting in "TAGGING" me withou arguments on why would anyone build anything that can not be fully explored to become a mobile app as a single page front end app consuming as many APIs people want to and this is not ideology, this is effectivity - flyinthesoup
I'm glad you find it effective. - Kevin Marks
Ben finds PHP effective - Kevin Marks
why is that impossible for you to accept? - Kevin Marks
Great, everyone can respect that, but in fact this is not a matter of finding effective, but being effective. - flyinthesoup
I am most interested in the platforms I can use that let me be the most effective one man development team possible. - Chris Hale
Chris: It varies - sometimes I'll do day rate consulting, sometimes I'll have an ongoing advisory board role (with stock or retainer) email me kevinmarks@gmail.com if you want to chat - Kevin Marks
because it is not wroth it. if you are the one developing it, you'll certainly benefit A LOT. - flyinthesoup
what have you built, flyinthesoup? I'd love to see examples - Kevin Marks
also, Chris indiewebcamp.com/irc is a good place to talk about independent web development - Kevin Marks
Thank for the info @Kevin. Looks like that could be a helpful IRC to watch - Chris Hale
I have been trying for the past few months to work on going 100% independent developer and consultant and realize it is not as easy as I had hoped. - Chris Hale
@Chris, never give up. @Kevin is certainly a very good advisor. Try to balance selling your time to execute other people's work and gather enough experience to build your own. - flyinthesoup
thanks @flyinthesoup. I have been struggling lately to find time to complete work on my own stuff. This is one of the big reasons I am starting to get into node. Anything that can speed up my dev time is a great thing for me to utilize. Work smart , not harder - Chris Hale
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
here - Keith Teare
here too - Kevin Marks
Topic for today's GG: Sup http://techcrunch.com/2014.... App half-life now measured in weeks. - Tom Guarriello
OMG I'm available to attend a recording! - Matthew Voshell
...and go in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 - Murray Macdonald
Here is where the new FB messenger App is headed...http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tony Stanislawski
Here. - Robert Scoble
im going to watch through the roku ustream private channel i wonder how far delayed ill be - Matthew Voshell
We are gonna talk about two-app strategy for sure. - Robert Scoble
That one above is for you Robert! - Tony Stanislawski
@Robert did you see that tweet i sent to most for the Frontline piece that recently aired? - Matthew Voshell
BTW My little experiment last week, I mentioned all of you in a tweet, only Keith responded. I know that I could have got Scobles attention on FB. Steve G and Kevin not so sure how I would - Tony Stanislawski
I saw it, but as keith had responded i thought I'd be redundant - Kevin Marks
The world is coming to an end. I might as well watch The Gillmor Gang live - Francine Hardaway
Excellent plan, Francine - Tom Guarriello
Got it Kevin - Tony Stanislawski
Tony, do you mean this one? http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... - Rob Underwood
I was thinking of Robert S too when I watched the original - Rob Underwood
No I have not seen that...another thing to watch! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew, nope. - Robert Scoble
What's up Steve! - Chris Hale
ppl are turnig off push notications (in some categories) http://andrewchen.co/2014... - clive boulton
I will not install fb chat. Don't want it. Same with 4square. - Murray Macdonald
Wow. Robert jumped right in - Chris Hale
Per a story that relates to last weeks show, and what the gang is trying to understand; http://www.pbs.org/wgbh... - Matthew Voshell
Path like 4sq has 2 app strategy - clive boulton
I agree -- the FourSquare/Swarm split feels different than the messenger/FB "split" - Rob Underwood
I love the new FourSquare app, and Messenger is quite useful. I dig that too. Both are very useful. And, the new Messenger features are super sweet! You guys should check it out. - Jason Nunnelley
Can we make the Dock disappear on Robert's screen? - Tom Guarriello
These apps will have to provide value to users. They seem like distractions more than value. I communicate with my friends through other channels (text, voice, email, beer) - Murray Macdonald
I always view myself as the quintessential user, and I will now never use Foursquare and give tips. I used to do it when checking in. - Francine Hardaway
I have too many other ways to find out where to eat - Francine Hardaway
Question, can you be friends in messenger and not on FB yet? - Tony Stanislawski
But I do like and use Messenger - Francine Hardaway
Tony yes - Francine Hardaway
Yelp is my go-to app for food. I don't want people to know where I am eating. - Murray Macdonald
Agree with Robert on separating of FB apps. I think this could be an attempt to improve reputation for individual components of FB - Chris Hale
@Tony, yes, depending on your privacy settings you can control who can message you; either public, friends of friends, firends, or ony me - Matthew Voshell
Max Schrems suite was stirred by a talk from a Facebook privacy lawyer. “The message was, ‘Europeans are cute with their privacy laws... - clive boulton
My sister (reasonably technical) just made the mistake of having a private conversation on a relative's public Facebook feed. I explained the 2-app split and she's on board now. ;-) - Ian McGee
Messenger and the FB strategy are not the same as 4Square and Swarm - Francine Hardaway
whatever happened to the big "skype" integration into facebook chat? seems like they've kinda forgotten about that? - Matthew Voshell
I think instant messaging in general is a ungodly steaming hot mess - Chris Hale
My wife told me she uninstalled Messenger because of the permission requirements, to which I responded "how are you going to talk to your daughter when she's in Japan?" When in Osaka, my kid only talked to us on Messenger, because it's mobile, desktop, etc. Warren Whitlock called me on the voice calling feature built into Messenger, before I even knew it was there. Cool as hell! - Jason Nunnelley
On iOS, the lock screen notifications arent written correctly, i get a single new notification per message... its awful, they need to allow it to do a "count" of messages from the same persons - Matthew Voshell
My parents and many of my 50+ year old friends are not on facebook. Neither are my kids. - Murray Macdonald
Matthew: we can argue about that. I really like the single notifications per message coming in. - Robert Scoble
Yeah, but I see the utility of FB Messenter immediately, but my perception of FOursquare and Swarm is silly - Francine Hardaway
Swarm is getting better and better! - Tony Stanislawski
I still can't figure out the Swarm "nearby plans" -- it would seem weird to just show up in person at someone's plan (e.g., dinner), even if they are friends. - Rob Underwood
I think what they did is underestimate the gamification of it, which everyone loved and they are bringing those back! - Tony Stanislawski
Robert was talking on his fb this week about everyone who is up in arms over the permission stuff. Its just people pontificating about privacy because they have nothing better to get inflamed about. In a contextual age the notion of privacy is a radically different thing than the traditional notion of what privacy is - Chris Hale
Foursquare made a lot of mistakes. - Francine Hardaway
Good work, Tina! - Tom Guarriello
@Robert re: FB messenger chat notification; if i get 10 messages now my entire screen is full and i cant see any of the other messages (unless i scroll) i think having a count like imessage nativly does its much better to scale - Matthew Voshell
LOL Kevin I know who to message now! - Tony Stanislawski
Matthew: I do wish you had a choice. I see value in how you want to use notifications too. - Robert Scoble
Did facebook ever try to buy four square? isnt this a feature they portray in "silicon valley" when hooloui reverse engineerings the same feature as pied piper; facebook just did that wither thier "check-ins" and foursquare is dead just like that - Matthew Voshell
It all comes down to value. Can they generate more value for their users, and in some way extract that value in a form that positively affects the balance sheet? If that answer is yes, do it. - Josh Bradshaw
By leaving a tip are you not really checking in, just not in the present! - Tony Stanislawski
Bingo Kevin! - Tony Stanislawski
Hey @Robert. I had an interesting thought. Maybe these companies are splitting there apps because of a User experience crisis on mobile. Just like a webpage with too much content on it, maybe they are trying to keep there apps focused and uncluttered so people don't feel overwhelmed by an apps complexity - Chris Hale
When I use it I use it in combo with Google and 4sq - Tony Stanislawski
Really easier to type "coffee shop near me" into Google - Francine Hardaway
Worth noting Yelp has/had check-in ... just no one used it that I can tell. - Rob Underwood
As an app developer, I can appreciate how hard it can be to organize all the functions of an app when an app tries to include the "kitchen sink" in there app - Chris Hale
Don't resist FB Messenger, folks. It's worth it. I use it to talk to my friends in London. - Francine Hardaway
oye,,, a few technical weirdnesses today. its always something :-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
yelp reviews are like amazon reviews, take them with a grain of salt; biz owners check thier yelp and want it to look good; there's been stories latly of owners bullying peopel to leave good reviews or chraging for bad ones http://mashable.com/2014... - Matthew Voshell
I have had experiences like the one @Robert described. I think this is a drastically undersold feature of FB. It really has helped me meet up with friends in other towns - Chris Hale
Many Yelp reviews are years old (pre apps era) - clive boulton
FB Messenger is quite useful. especial for a small group chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
I use Google Now all the time. Its contextual awareness is great. - Murray Macdonald
There is only so many Messaging Silo's to invest time in. - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Listening to @Robert all I can think of now is Peter Brady and "Time to Change" - https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Rob Underwood
Change is not hard it is fun! What would life be like without change! - Tony Stanislawski
group chat is key. twitter is dropping the ball there - Kevin Marks
Queue steve and his notification love fest - Matthew Voshell
WhatsApp is the most popular one that friends and family use for Group Chats - Moe Glitz from iPhone
To me, i think a lot of these chat silos will be broken down in IOS 8 once apps can talk to each other. - Chris Hale
How did Facebook Messenger take over what AIM used to own? Why did people switch? - Matthew Voshell
We are using Slack a ton across our development team at Relay now. - Rob Underwood
yes, Slack is excellent - Keith Adler
We love it. - Rob Underwood
Slack rocks. - Robert Scoble
In about two weeks we've moved 80% of our internal communication to Slack .. and it integrates with stuff like Github and JIRA, etc. - Rob Underwood
I have a plane going over sorry - Kevin Marks
yes it integrates with ALL the things - Kevin Marks
Who will acquire Slack. Apple, Facebook, Google or Microsoft - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Twitter SHOULD - Keith Adler
@Moe -- good question. Maybe LinkedIn? - Rob Underwood
I hope none of them - Kevin Marks
Apple or MSFT would bugger it up - Kevin Marks
good point - Keith Adler
Facebook is too off message - Kevin Marks
maybe google, but they'd have channel conflict with plus/hangouts - Kevin Marks
Yahoo is desperate enough. - Murray Macdonald
It's great for our team because it gave a separate notifications stream that would get everyone's attention - Keith Adler
I love learning about new tools from you guys. *runs off to check out Slack* - Laura Norvig
Rob: slack does git, ok, now i'll check out the app - clive boulton
Stewart would not sell to Yahoo again - Kevin Marks
hmm. slack sounds interesting - Chris Hale
Any App that solves problems will always be in the line of fire for the usual suspects - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Remember when Whisper was the buzz? They come, they go... - Murray Macdonald
The searchable database, shared group environment is what's great - Keith Adler
@kevin: any indie concept of app-to-app notifications (yeah on the phone)? - clive boulton
It has put our work messaging in it's own separate channel (important when all the employees are overloaded) - Keith Adler
i used to work for the company that managed the backend for whisper - Chris Hale
webmentions are the indie concept, but not very app-focused - Kevin Marks
Ugh. I only didn't remove Yo because I forgot about it - Francine Hardaway
webmentions - thx - clive boulton
Yo is too small to go to the effort of deleting if it doesn't bug us too much... - Ian McGee
There is easily a Top 20 of major Messaging Apps. It's hard to get into the Top 5 and stay there - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I'm starting to turn off notifications on some apps because I'm being driven nuts by notifications - Francine Hardaway
Yo was awesome for the World Cup...just got a Yo every time a goal was scored. - Tony Stanislawski
I turn of/deny notification on all apps except the social networking apps - Adnan
Yo shows why brogrammers are a stain on silicon valley - Matthew Voshell
what the bejesus is a brogrammer? - Chris Hale
Yo is brogrammers trying to be phatic and just shouting - Kevin Marks
brogrammer is programmer who acts like a frat boy - Kevin Marks
iOS 8 could be the American Bandstand of Messaging Apps - Moe Glitz from iPhone
The device IS the app! Long term, Apple will be the best and most reliable contextual API provider. The hardware is a vehicle for the software. - Richard Hendrix
I blame Aaron Sorkin - Kevin Marks
i'd liken them to Ogar from Revenger of the nerds... that knows javascript - Matthew Voshell
apple is not a great cloud api provider - Kevin Marks
I turn noisy app notifications off / also noisy folks off - clive boulton
@Kevin... lol Aaron had nothing to do with this! - Matthew Voshell
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH @Kevin - Chris Hale
he reified the dickish programmer - Kevin Marks
The API isn't in the cloud - it's on the device and just transmitted through the cloud if need be - Richard Hendrix
Kevin So you are saying Mark Zuckerburg is a dickish programmer? - Matthew Voshell
I was going to ask Robert if he still had Yo on the phone. - JayVig
I will install it if it guarantees Arsenal will win another trophy this year, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
to some extent - Kate Losse's Boy Kings describes it more clearly - Kevin Marks
Man City are the champions i believe, ahem - Matthew Voshell
but Sorkin created a dickish programmer archetype (possibly intending to be dismissive) but it became a hero role model - Kevin Marks
There should be an intercourse Messaging App. Yes Yes Yes! That would be huge Global Big Data - Moe Glitz from iPhone
hierarchy of noise: yogrammer > brogrammer > programmer - clive boulton
I was looking for this earlier but all the Slick fans... Hipchat is very similar.. a little nicer actaully.. https://www.hipchat.com/ - Matthew Voshell
that's like google's "pay per emotion" patent - Kevin Marks
Slack's integration wins - Kevin Marks
What's that patent, Kevin? - Tom Guarriello
@Kevin.. yea price might too; but idk here are hipchat integrations http://help.hipchat.com/knowled... - Matthew Voshell
Thanks, Kevin. - Tom Guarriello
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!! - Chris Hale
googs new user tracking bridges mobile apps and web http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... - clive boulton
Once again folks the book is called "age of context" get it on amazon now http://www.amazon.com/Age-Con... - Matthew Voshell
So emotion sensing watches will start driving recommendations to restaurants where people are happy? - Murray Macdonald
The people who hate the change are most vocal - Tony Stanislawski
I did a focus group on the Nespresso machine - Tina Chase Gillmor
Vessyl an early (and ridiculous) example of something that's definitely going to become pervasive. - Tom Guarriello
makeup sex heartrate? - Murray Macdonald
Vessle is awesome cuase it tells you everything thats on the side of the can.. colbert did a nice job with it http://www.theverge.com/2014... - Matthew Voshell
Murray: chocolate for Maryam. :-) - Robert Scoble
so all those home automation protocols that apple and google are working are going to be a big key to this contextual future. - Chris Hale
Nespresso machines are yummy -- but now sounding like "The Circle" - Rob Underwood
I like having a real espresso machine. - Kevin Marks
it's a balance of trade -- are people going to be willing to continue to give up privacy for the convenience and serendipity of discovery? - Rob Underwood
Kevin: sometimes I like a 3-star restaurant. Other times McDonalds. :-) - Robert Scoble
BLE sensors have standardized discovery. - Murray Macdonald
@Rob for music? Movies? Sure... for my home... ehhh :/ - Matthew Voshell
scary future... - Adnan
Yep! That's what I'm saying. Apple becomes the arbiter of the sensors, in effect turning the bundle of sensors into a contextual API that Apple provides. The device is just a part of the programming. - Richard Hendrix
Taxi Trails App in Stockholm tracks the travels of all their taxis via GPS to discover Stockholm Hot Spots - Moe Glitz from iPhone
BLE does but Proximity UUID's do not - Keith Teare
They are trying to stop tracking the UIDs of their devices, not the sensors. - Murray Macdonald
why not push a webmentions notification at an app for scalability of permissions - clive boulton
What apple is doing with beacons is criminal. It's like doing away with DNS so that your computer could only talk to hosts through applications that embed specific IP addresses. The web would have never been born. I put some real effort into a DNS for beacons and I'm now I'm glad I didn't spend more time on it. - Todd Hoff
And Apple is banning BLE to Proximity UUID discovery - Keith Teare
I already did - Francine Hardaway
How exactly are they banning that Keith? - Murray Macdonald
See the thing that scares me about apples approach is that all the data flows directly to apple. I think its important for some of these sensors and things that will talk to each other to be localized to the app in question not to platform itself - Chris Hale
Apple is very good about explaining how they never "touch" your data.... google kind of skirts around it - Matthew Voshell
Android BLE provides a better beacon API. I can detect and respond to beacons without needing to know about them in advance. Apple requires you to pre-register your beacons for the app to respond. - Murray Macdonald
You can set whatever Major and Minor values you want on most BLE beacons. - Murray Macdonald
Can you become a beacon yet on android Murray? - Todd Hoff
Context should not be app specific. Location context is environmental, not app specific. - Murray Macdonald
Murray - yes, all accurate - Keith Teare
Are you asking if an Android phone can transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Murray it can not, yet. - Robert Scoble
Apple won't approve apps that try to discover beacons the app doesn't already know about - Keith Teare
Robert: Cannot what? Transmit as a beacon? - Murray Macdonald
Apple will make the browser ? - chris dowling
That's not true. A proper beacon browser would allow you to whitelist desired beacons. There's no reason you need to be spammed. That would just be a bad beacon browser. A good one would let you scan an environment and add the ones you like to your whitelist. - Murray Macdonald
Anybody should be able to make the browser. - Keith Teare
Hearing Apple scaling its Cassandra team ahead of something big - clive boulton
zeroconf, not zigbee - Kevin Marks
Here's a use case: I'm walking down a sidewalk and I want to get information on restaurants on my path. You want to get coupons, specials, menus etc from your local context. Using a general system I could get the id, look it up, apply filters, merge with social streams, figure out the interaction pattern, and present the UI to the user. This can't happen with an iphone. - Todd Hoff
So cute. There's a little Keith in the room - Tina Chase Gillmor
coupons meh - Kevin Marks
Sorry Kevin, yes, zeroconf - Keith Teare
A good beacon browser app would let you enable/disable types of beacons. Coupons, restaurants, etc... Users would turn on and off they things they are interested in. The browser wouldn't spam your notifications, it would present them when you asked, unless you had previously whitelisted them. - Murray Macdonald
saving money bothers you? - Todd Hoff
They don't have the majority of costco customers, just app purchasers. - Murray Macdonald
Murray: Android can not transmit as a beacon. - Robert Scoble
Maybe there will be a "discoverability" ON/OFF setting like in Bluetooth. - Alex de Soto
password heist? - Laura Norvig
It wasn't this stuff about beacons - Francine Hardaway
Robert: Agreed, but it will soon. Also I see little need as phones are already discoverable. Apple can act as an iBeacon, but what is the use? It could be useful in the future when finding friends, etc... but those apps aren't popular as most of that is done through GPS and the cloud, not BLE. - Murray Macdonald
Sprints attempted buyout of Tmobile finally got extinguished this week - Chris Hale
"Netflix subscriber revenue surpasses HBO." - Alex de Soto
And Sprint got a new CEO this week. That is also interesting new IMHO - Chris Hale
I've got to run to a 2:30 meeting. Thanks everyone! Great show. - Murray Macdonald
FCC tells phone carriers to tell users why throttling - Laura Norvig
literally dying I emant - Kevin Marks
I cannot watch World news on any channel. Regurgitation of what was on the internet 2 hours or 2 days ago! - Tony Stanislawski
HBO Vice is pretty interesting. - Alex de Soto
Oliver is a half-hour weekly Daily Show. Big success for HBO and loss for Comedy Central. - Tom Guarriello
Feeling Apple Watch focused more on personal health: sensors / notifications / analytics - clive boulton
Who is getting the new Apple iPhone? - Alex de Soto
presentate - Kevin Marks
many ppl want the larger iphone - clive boulton
What I do not get Robert is what is the key difference between these people who spend so much time worrying about this rather than using it. Your thread on FB would be an interesting dissertation..... - Tony Stanislawski
this is too small - Kevin Marks
*waves to Todd Hoff* - Laura Norvig
Special mention: Danny Sullivan's Twitter coverage of the hurricanes in Hawaii. - Alex de Soto
Good show! Time for some wine! Vivino show me the way! :) - Tony Stanislawski
When is your next show, Tina? - Laura Norvig
What's that football app again, Keith? - Tom Guarriello
Tony: we all talk about it because it's interesting and we all are gonna use it. - Robert Scoble
Now for some G3 - clive boulton
In case I don't see ya, Good afternoon, good evening and goodnight! - Chris Hale
I want the larger phone - Francine Hardaway
Nice one! - Asif Rahman
Good show. 'night all - Ian McGee from Android
thanks! - Richard Hendrix
Francine the larger phone spurs a smaller watch? - clive boulton
Ah, One Football...got it. - Tom Guarriello
Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble
Oh hey, I found the "chat room". Another great show, thanks :) - Brian Gaudenti
Steve Gillmor
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 11am PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
here - Keith Teare
I'm here, good morning! - Robert Scoble
@Robert, your Internet back up...saw you mention it was down in Half Moon Bay yesterday? - J.C. Bouvier
Oh great! GG...a "rational" excuse not to work on this project due Wednesday! - Tom Guarriello
Not just the Internet was down. Phones, cell phones, and all connectivity. - Robert Scoble
HMB like most places in SF Bay is probably sitting on an internet loop. - clive boulton
Wow...any idea what the point of failure was? - J.C. Bouvier
Backhoe Saturday - clive boulton
Stone Age Scoble - Moe Glitz from iPhone
I hate the British Government but I love my country - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Palestine=Third rail - Tom Guarriello
Please send wearables to... G3 ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert looks like he is wearing shoulder pads at some angles - Moe Glitz from iPhone
yes due to the red couch clending into his shirt - Tina Chase Gillmor
blending - Tina Chase Gillmor
With Twitters reach and influence they should be hitting the right numbers - Moe Glitz from iPhone
Twitter's numbers due almost wholly to World Cup. We'll see what next quarter's numbers are. On my screen it has slowed down again. - Robert Scoble
@Kevin, that verification process is seemingly pretty whimsical... - J.C. Bouvier
gray, the studio cat, is so glad Im back in town he won't leave me alone. he cares not that Im "trying" to direct this show ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
verification is used as a PR tool - Kevin Marks
New football season starting across Europe soon Twitter hoping to tap into that as well