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Robert Scoble
I'm looking at buying a mountain bike. For $1,000 to $1,500 what would you recommend? Answer on friendfeed so I can link to the results, link here:
I have a Cannondale that I love (though I'm lame and put road tires on it so I can take it to the post office!). http://www.cannondale.com/bikes... - Marina Martin
It depends on what you want to do/what sort of riding your going to be doing. Do you want a hard tail(just front suspension) or dual suspension? - Michael Gross
I've owned several Trek's and have been very happy with all of them. - Jeff P. Henderson
Michael: dual suspension. I'm getting old and the softer ride is worth it (I've already tested that out). - Robert Scoble
Michael: I'll be on mostly flat trails, though, but who knows? Even then, though, the dual suspension is something I felt on just street riding and like a lot. - Robert Scoble
I like my Diamondback - a bit heavier than most, but more solid - Jason
Vikrum: are there any Santa Cruz in my price range, though? - Robert Scoble
cannondale is a good bike, Trek also makes some mean mid range bikes, i use this site for info http://www.mtbr.com/ - Adam B
A professional rider today told me that in my price range Specialized and Trek are good to consider. - Robert Scoble
Giant Trance X2. High quality yet affordable. By all means check out Mountain Bike Review (http://www.mtbr.com) for user reviews, trail ratings, discussions, etc. And then sign up so I can say I was on mtbr.com before you. - Sue Radd
Cannondale all the way. Depending on how "mountain" you want. You may want to look at a hybrid. Road tires are so much easier to push. - Hans
Hans: I'm going to be mostly on dirt, but doubt I'll go out in the mud very often, so hybrid might be OK. I like the traction I get with knobby tires, though. - Robert Scoble
I have had a Specialized for almost twenty years. no shox or special suspension but worked great on bumpy Volcano dirt trails near Bend Oregon last summer. - Dave Blockhus
7 pages of them on Craigslist - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/search... - John Rubier
Specialized has always been my favorite bike brand - Jesse Stay
I also vote for canondale I have one that is 15+years old and I am a heavy rider (270) in total time owned other then tune ups 2 repairs shifter and BB axle. AWESOME AMERICAN BIKE CO. - zac_in_ak
I do have to say that friendfeed is demonstrating something very killer here: real time product feedback. I'm writing a blog post about this. - Robert Scoble
Yo Dawg, I heard you're looking for a bike. Get a Kona Dawg. http://www.konaworld.com/09_dawg... So you can ride while you ride. Seriously great bikes though. - Andrew Smith
Sorry, but I have to lobby for the Trance, 'cause that's what I ride. (modded earlier model to add disc brakes and a better Fox fork.) :-) http://tinyurl.com/cl4moa - Sue Radd
Chris: so now I have to decide whether to go Cannondale or Trek or Specialized. You all are no help! :-) - Robert Scoble
I would go with the bike that you feel most comfortable on. It is all a matter of preference. Every rider has a different riding style, body type, etc. I own a trek fuel ex8...good all around bike! I've also have two Kona hardtails, which are bomb proof! Visit your local bike shop and let them know your budget, and the type of riding you will be doing. Try as many as you can...once you sit on the bike, you will know in the first 5min. Like an interview! Ha! - nilo ayson
Can't go wrong with Specialized and Trek. Heck, go with Trek to feel some solidarity with Lance! - Troy Malone
I'd recommend a Trek. I've beaten the heck out of those things on the trails, and they just last and ask for more. Seems the 6 series are in your price range http://www.trekbikes.com/us... - Al
It really depends what you want to do. Where do you want to ride? With friends and family around some trails or do you want to do some more serious cross-country or downhill mountain biking. Either way resist getting something with dual suspention in that price range - it's slow & heavy and junky. Kona's a better value and you might want to look at the speedy street/trail friendly DR DEW http://www.konaworld.com/09_drde... or the more KULA http://www.konaworld.com/09_kula... - PS) Live to ride! - Adam Horne
I just bought a new Trek 4300. Its a nice cost-for-value solution - they are good for not-yet-professionals, yet hold up nicely even for heavy-set riders (me :)) - Yariv Zur
Victor: why? My friends are here. They aren't on hunch. I trust the people here on friendfeed and Twitter a lot more than on Hunch. - Robert Scoble
Other than Kona, I'd also recommend Rocky Mountain Bikes. Both brands huge here in Whistler. Maybe look at this one http://www.bikes.com/main+en... - Andrew Smith
you said great, now you have to pick between a cannondale, a trek, and a specialized mountain bike. That's not a problem, I actually test road all 3 at the sea otter on thursday and they are all great bike companies. The answer to chose between the three is easy. Go to your local friendly neighborhood bike shop and see which one of the three they carry. - Ilya Rivkin
Look for a Cross Country frame for light trail riding. They're usually lighter and position your body better for longer distances. Dual Suspension often have more aggressive downhill frame geometries. - timmann
You know, given that every single good MTB is going to have some mix of Shimano and SRAM parts, have suspension from a small group of companies, is made in a small selection of factories in Taiwan, etc. I think it's mostly about which one happens to be available at a nice place with non-asshole salesfolk and happens to fit you the best. - Wirehead
Oh, and unless you are in the mud, knobby tire traction is an illusion. I've gone through all sorts of bay area mountain biking trails and not once have I said "Gee, the knob between my legs isn't enough. I need a bunch of knobs on my tires!" But, given that most Hybrids are intended to be riden a maximum of 500 miles before being thrown out, you might just want to get a nice MTB and then change the tires out afterwards. - Wirehead
Ryan: here's th thing about friendfeed, though. If you ask a question and I "like" it, it goes to the same people who would see my own question. So, do you need 90,000 followers or only one follower? - Robert Scoble
Pretty interesting to see how this worked--asking for feedback. I ride a Trek Fuel EX7--probably above the range you set but not by much. My wife bought it for me asking all her mtb friends. She does XTERRA races. She was told and I agree, it was well worth the extra money to step up from the EX 5.5. And as someone said, Lance rides Treks. He road a Top Fuel at last years Leadville 100. - Bob McAllaster
I'd go with either Santa Cruz or Scott, they offer real pro bikes in wide range of levels. Oh, and Robert, I'm so waiting for the video of Scoble Doing Downhill. - Nir Ben Yona
Nir: in the $1,500 level? Trek seems better at that level than the others. - Robert Scoble
Robert: I was riding pro for many years. With bikes, you can put 5 people in a room and hear 10 different opinions. My first advice would be to go and test each one of the models for yourself. Second, is to get the exact size that fits your body (very important). Third, buy the right accessories. Fourth, join a group at your level. Finally, Trek are good, no doubt, but IMHO Scott are better, but yet again, go and ask for a test ride. - Nir Ben Yona
One more thing: if you're planning a trail ride, dual suspension won't be good. Make sure you can lock the rear suspension, otherwise it would take extra energy from you. - Nir Ben Yona
Nir: but it's a lot more comfortable. I tried that out already. - Robert Scoble
Robert: It is ! but if you ride 20 miles of flat trail, the rear suspension will force you to put more effort, that's why you should buy dual suspension with locking option. As for the gears, you won't need XTR, i think that XT will be enough at this point. - Nir Ben Yona
Robert, I took this Giant Anthem 1, some crazy places in the European Alps over 2500km and all I got was one flat. http://is.gd/tpjL http://is.gd/tplp. If you are after a smooth rolling dual suspension with propedal rear shock for 'widish' forest tracks and 'smoothish' single track I think this would be ideal. - Jan Zimak
Robert; a hard question to answer without substantially more information. Generally if you stick with the top brands you will get a good bike but, to get one that is best suited to your riding style and terrain the best approach would be to contact your local mountain bike club and ask which are the most reputable bike shops. the go to 2-3 of them to get their advice/recommendation. Word of warning: unless the sales person wants to know a lot about you, your interests and where/how you ride. walk away. - Wayne Blackshaw
Robert, you definitely want a hard-tail (i.e front suspension only) for flat trail riding. If comfort is an issue, replace the stock saddle with a really good foam-gel-filled model that has a cutaway to reduce pressure on the crotch. Also, padded short/pant liner for added cushioning. Also, I would suggest you get a model with click gear shifters, rather than the twist variety. In my experience, shifting on the fly is much smoother and easier with the click variety. - Phil Essing
Phil: I'll take another look, but I dramatically liked the ones with dual suspension better. - Robert Scoble
Robert: well, then, definitely follow the advice of those who suggest a model with a lockable rear-suspension. My advice on saddle replacement and padded short/pant liners stands. For longer duration riding, rear suspension will do nothing to ease the comfort in the crotch and seat-bone areas. - Phil Essing
Phil: cool. the trail I'll be on most has some up and down, some ruts, 30% asphalt, 70% dirt/gravel. I doubt I'd be riding more than an hour very often. I'm not that kind of guy. Someday, if I really get into it, maybe, but I'm at least two years away from that and probably never. Got two kids, so getting more than an hour for exercise is going to be very tough until they are older. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Sounds like the terrain mix that I mostly ride. One last bit of advice: never ride without an emergency kit. Get a strap on tire pump, and a saddle bag that you can stuff with a multi-tool, two or three tire levers, spare inner-tube, and a pair of latex gloves. Why the gloves? For that inevitable moment when, while shifting, your chain derails. With the gloves, you can quickly get that chain back in place without getting your hands all messed-up with grease. - Phil Essing
Oh, and if you're the DIY type, here's a site you're going to definitely want to bookmark: http://bicycletutor.com/ Lots of great video tutorials on how to maintain and care for your new trusty steed. - Phil Essing
+1 for the tips Phil, I second every word. Another good place to find relevant stuff is here: http://forums.mtbr.com - Nir Ben Yona
Nir Ben Yona: Been lurking on those forums for quite some time. Definitely, another great source of info for the MTB'er. - Phil Essing
Get a double bike trailer and take your two lovelies along for the ride. - Ken Oatman
Love my Gary Fisher. Have had it for 15 years. Indestructible. - Jeff
My top picks are Sta Cruz Blur XC or Giant Trance. You should also look at 29ers (29" wheels instead of 26"). They are all the rage and make riding over obstacles even easier. - Craig Villamor
You have a lot of good feedback so far. I bought a Trek 4300 (hardtail) 5 years ago and love it. Have upgraded almost all the components, but the lightweight aluminum frame is durable and pretty light. If I was in the market for a new full suspension, I'd look at the Trek FuelEX or Gary Fisher full suspension. You might rethink your hardtail/FS decision. You'll get better components for your $ with a hardtail, and less maintenance. If you go FS you may want to up your budget to $1500 to $2000. - Charles Hanskat
I'm a mountain biker, go check out http://pinkbike.com + http://jehlebikes.com + http://www.chainreactioncycles.com ... I would recommend Scott, Santa Cruz, Specialized. - Apostolos Papadopoulos
oh, and i want to see photos on flickr pls :D heh - Apostolos Papadopoulos
Many good choices from Specialized, Trek, Cannondale, etc. The key is getting the proper fit. Go to a decent (not high end) independent bike shop like Valencia Cyclery in SF (valenciacyclery.com). If you join the SF Bike Coalition (sfbike.com), most SF bike shops will give you a discount, too. You can often find a great deal on last year's models, too. Bike to Work Day is May 14th, so now is the time.... - Tony Wasserman
Salcano Bike is good. - N.Onur ATAHAN
Yep...don't even bother with anything other than Santa Cruz. It's what my friend Chris uses and he does 24 hour mountain bike races. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Robert: I'm in San Mateo and ride Purisima Creek Road (starting from the Skyline Side) pretty frequently. Lots of good riding in MPROSD preserves. DM me if you ever want to ride. I'm slow and non-threatening, I promise. - Sue Radd
What do you want to ride? Bike path, singletrack, doubletrack, downhill, etc... - Chris Greene
Robert, looked at your description of trails and riding conditions above and here's my most sage advice. BUY THE BIKE THAT FITS! - Don - Chris Greene
't listen to anyone that's telling you a model. Go ride some Treks, Specialized, Cannondale whatever features you like and settle on something that fits you and i comfortable. - Chris Greene
I wouldn't go fancy with suspension (front fork will do). And no need for exotic materials until you start racing (stay away from carbon fiber). If you start to pound singletrack the mainline brands (Trek, Spec, Cannon) will all fall apart on you. Buy something with a good kit (Shimano LX, XT), and again be comfortable and nice fitting. You can only decide this by test riding bikes. Don't mistake mountain biking with a mountain bike. - Chris Greene
If you are only going to ride the coastal roads in HMB or bike paths, a mountain bike is not the right way to go. - Chris Greene
- peace out - Chris Greene
Chris: except I have mountain trails all around me. - Robert Scoble
I've never had a bad experience with a Gary Fisher bike. - Tsali - A dude man
Robert: I know you do. The question is do you really ride them? If yes, then I think a god hardtail THAT FITS with a nice fork is a good choice for you. If you don't ride them and think you might, I would suggest you start off with something better suited to the stuff you do ride. The range of stuff in HMB can go from easy climbs and bike paths to super gnarly stuff on Montara Mtn. that's the kind of things I've ridden with a 50LB dual suspension bike with 10" of travel. - Chris Greene
Robert: ....my first mtn bike was a aluminum hardtail and was great for a couple of years. When I obsessed about it I upgraded. If I had never gone down the pro road I would have been fine with that simple bike for the rest of my days. The problem was that you can never "make" an expensive or simple bike fit you and it will not be fun. - Chris Greene
I had a Cannondale. Nearly took my eye out mountainbiking and falling over a cactus, so I stopped. - Francine Hardaway
Just got a new Trek! Love Trek and Giant. - Corey Marthaller from Nambu
forget the mountain bike, buy a euro style bike like the following and ride in normal clothes every day somewhere! Far better to do 1-10km every day than 50km on a sat or sun, I do 10km a day on my swiss bike and am in the best shape ever: http://usa.batavus.com/ http://www.civiacycles.com/civiaco... text me if you need further euro bike buying advice :-) ! …Roland +1 604 729 7924 - Roland Tanglao
Speak to your local bike shop. The support they will provide when things go wrong or you want to upgrade is worthwhile. You can also try the bike which is important. The larger manufacturers can probably get you a better set of components for the money but it will be less unique. Trek, Marin, Specialized are all good in my opinion. How you feel on the bike and the dealer support are more important to a new biker in my opinion, assuming you are fairly new to this? - Andrew Edwards
Robert: Andrew Edwards comment just above is great advice: find a shop you like and trust, the best result will come from that. Also key, and already said: get a bike that fits, from a shop that understands fit. There aren't many bad bikes made anymore, especially in the $1000 and up price range. That said, I work at Specialized, and follow you on twitter, so DM me if you want to talk more. @matthewscd - matthewscd
fookinner - Robert Scoble
Robert: Specialized Stump Jumper. http://tinyurl.com/owcdfw I have bought this bike 2x ( the first one was stolen out of my garage) It is way more than I will ever use as I like to ride around SF and to the North Bay, but have taken it down nutty trail rides in Tahoe as well. It certainly has the "you know your bikes" quality as whenever I take it to get tunes up the gearheads always compliment me on it. It apparently is the entry level series that uses all kinds of upgraded parts etc, which eventually get you in the the 3k, 6k area, which would be even more wasted on me. Not every shop carries specialized, but Mikes Bikes does. Good luck in your hunt. - Kevin Murray
Well, did you get one??? My advice is similar to a couple others. Work with a local bike shop who works with you to FIT you on a bike. More than anything else, finding a bike and tuning it to your body and riding style will go farther than anything to make it an enjoyable sport. - Dave Ploch
What type of riding do you want to do? XC or downhill. There's a significant difference in bike design and tech between the two. I'm an XC rider myself and rode a Santa Cruz superlight before switching to a KHS 904r. Both are dual suspension. I would highly recommend dual over a hardtail. Superior handling, climbing and comfort on those 100km rides. - Troy Forster
Wow Building 43 really is as big as Area 51! - Jan Simmonds
Cannondale Bay Boy Ultra is what I have. comes with nice road rims and front shock is in the head tube and can be turned on and off and has disc brakes. I bought a separate set of mountain bike rims and they swap on and off easily. Two bikes for the price of 1.5 - Dave Evans
Robert, I spend my whole life thinking about questions like this. The correct answer for you is "Gary Fisher HiFi." And also you need to start reading my blog: fatcyclist.com. - Elden Nelson
$799 Montague Paratrooper used by the Army. http://www.montagueco.com/bikes... - Francis Estrada
so will Cannondale sponsor the discussion? And if they do, won't that undermine the nature and quality of the discussion - andrewkeen
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