Gray, our studio cat, is in love with mimi. They did not get thrown outside today, therefore they are running around and making noise. Thanks cats!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't get the big deal about apps, survey after survey shows that most people ignore them(on mobile) Consumers ignore most apps on their smartphones – USATODAY.com http://usat.ly/y20Sr1
- Stephen M
if this doesn't wrok, I'll go get an ethernet cable
- Kevin Marks
Change just comes much more slowly than anyone expects. People don't whip into apps on the desktop if they already have what they think is a satisfactory solution,
- Francine Hardaway
I don't think what Path did was all that bad.. I mean, you are using a mobile device, and the cell phone provider has to know where you are, who you are calling... you care about privacy, use a can and some string
- Stephen M
there should certainly be disclosures about how your data is used up front - and there should be an option to delete your data - facebook sync for iphone was doing this - and then on their website they let you delete the synced data
- Ankush Narula
NCIS has a great social media presence... a lot of the actors are on twitter, and tweet during the episode, or provide behind the scenes pics of episodes they are shooting
- Stephen M
CBS and American Idol are making me want to watch their shows "Live"... the behind the scenes tweeting is really nice for their shows
- Stephen M
Kevin: I listed to an interview with Chris Columbus, the movie producer behind Harry Potter and he totally disagrees with you about 3D. Interesting that this argument is happening in lots of places.
- Robert Scoble
3D works when you have a very big screen that fills your visual field. without that it is a fishtank that reduces suspension fo disbelief as you can see the edges
- Kevin Marks
One good thing about the DNC coming to town, all the cell providers are improving their networks, or upgrading it!
- Stephen M
I prefer GetGlue.. you get real Stickers!
- Stephen M
motorola already ships loads of home entertainment boxes, and Google just bought them
- Kevin Marks
do you really care what other people are watching? particularly in the age of DVR?
- Ankush Narula
Highlight sounds a little like the flappers in Gulliver's Travels.
- Hilary Talbot
yes, because I can see them reating to it on twitter
- Kevin Marks
I do... some shows I have to watch when they air
- Stephen M
Steve + JP consumer web observations turns up in Chatter Timeline
- cliveb
Microsoft played around with this in the 90's. Looks like Google is looking to make this real. A complete Home O/S, controlling Media and Electrical Systems
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I only watch sports live - maybe Daily Show or Colbert if I'm awake and home - otherwise it's pretty much all on demand
- Ankush Narula
I wrote about it in my blog. It's a different business model for "free mobile apps".
- Itai Frenkel
In the future we will have algorithms that would extract the metadata from the data automatically. All the facebook "metadata" would be less a competitive advantage.
- Itai Frenkel
Gilmor - it could be backed up in the cloud, but still have different privacy settings (such as disallowing certain type of data mining)
- Itai Frenkel
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that.
- Stephen Mack
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both.
- Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it.
- Josh Haley
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here.
- Bruce Lewis
not enough, best of day should be like a stream that can be traced back
- ffcode
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
@Subhasish Vodafone's press statement a couple of months back was generic w.r.t. SE Asia which was assumed to include India. Bharati made an official press release with Tim Cook that they will be launching in India in partnership. What puzzles me is the speeds that they will be able to support on their networks. popular high speed 3G technologies are CDMA based, UMTS & HSDPA: http://www.apple.com/pr... Though this was in the print edition of yesterdays BS, I can't find it online.
- Parth Awasthi
Considering that I am a very frequent user even with crappy GPRS speeds on my crummy (for browsing) SE; I will appreciate anything that is even trivially better.
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
when Scrabble did the 'iPad for the board and iphones for the tiles" thing, it was funny, but the idea of shared plus private is important
- Kevin Marks
there is talk about ubuntu tv getting launched at ces. can it make a play?
- Alex Williams
Apple prefer selling Hardware rather than Software.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Ubuntu? u mean linux? the OS widely known for their outstanding UI?
- Stephen M
XBOX 360 with one of the LIve TV partners is a great way to watch TV.. you just talk to it
- Stephen M
Unity is the Ubuntu UI - hated by the faithful meant for the masses.
- Alex Williams
My 70 year old mom loves her ViZio with the built in Netflix..she doesn't have to switch inputs, just just presses the Netflix button on the remote
- Stephen M
did you see the Doctor Who Literal Video of Total Eclipse of the Heart?
- Kevin Marks
Would Siri on an Apple TV, make Search on TV more fun and interesting
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
And this 70 year old mom likes her AppleTV with the built in Netflix. She has trained herself (pant pant) to switch inputs. Could it be easier, I suppose. Is it great as it is, Yes.
- Francine Hardaway
I finally have audio-only feed, hi everyone! Happy New Year from Kaula Lumpur (for this week). Am hearing a lot of talk about TV...the reason I go online is to get away from TV. Oh the irony. :)
- Charlie Isaacs
re: apps vs. browsers .... Mobile users lean toward apps over browsers [study]
- studentforce
Windows Phone won't take off. In the UK its all about Apple and Android/Google. In Europe (outside of the UK pretty much) NO ONE has an Apple...its quite astounding. Its all about Google.Android and nothing to do with Apple..which is interesting
- Scott Jones
In for the last "Gang" of the year.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Scott: everytime I'm in Europe I see iPhones all over the place. I don't know what Europe you live in.
- Robert Scoble
That *is* a big indictment. I would think someone would get one just to be contrarian.
- Bruce Lewis
Heh Robert. Talking about Central Europe. I'm British but have been through Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc and in this part of Europe there are zero iPhones/iPads and basically no Apple. But every 15 year old kid in all these countries has an android phone. Apple dont exist in the new Europe. Which is surprising. I had to get a Samsung as I couldnt get an Apple. But MS....well...they have no chance in Europe.
- Scott Jones
I wish Steve was more Italian and used his hands to talk more ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's always a "new" world though. There was a time when Android didn't exist at all in this "new" world. Things change. Never say never. :)
- Kevin Costain
Are people talking about Roku much? One of my users was asking for a Roku channel.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I see Roku come up here and there. But this is a pretty heavy Android iOS show.
- Robert Scoble
...Glad I caught the last GG of 2011 - ...love you guys - 2012 needs more high power women in tech, BTW - Hey John, Scobes, Mark - ...and Hey SG!
- Rocky Barbanica
Know what you mean Robert. What's interesting though is I now stream and download everything...erm..for free. Monitisation is an issue for companies I would say
- Scott Jones
When the edge is so powerful, does an edge to core strategy really make sense?
- Todd Hoff
Netflix peaked in 2011. Streaming video's becoming a commodity with Comcast, Amazon, Vudu... Netflix is actually falling behind in terms of first run films.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Louis CK made the money for production costs on the shows themselves (RE: Rolling Stone's article on his recent shows).. the money he made on the online special was allot more gravy..
- Kevin Costain
Ken: I think you're right now - but that will change. It is changing.
- Kevin Costain
People don't realize how good OTA quality is now that they've gone digital.
- Bruce Lewis
Predict THIS - Rocky's running for Pacifica City Counsel 2012
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert, if you live in Half Moon Bay the view looks better than anything that would be on TV anyway. :-) But seriously, I think the percentage of cable use should be lower given the signal available to a lot of people now.
- Bruce Lewis
It's like waking up and realizing you've been sold a lie all your life that we are the most special country and we run it on real principles, and we have a real democracy. At least these tools allowed us to wake up and see how fake the so called 'establishment' really are
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: and that's the power they had. Not sure they really used it well.
- Robert Scoble
I think the OWS activities were just a starting point.. that is probably a sign of things to come.. I wonder if we'll see a full-scale revolt somehow. or even if that is possible.. ?
- Kevin Costain
That would be 'crony' capitalism or in Russia Oligarchy?
- Stephen Pickering
Robert Scoble: what's unfortunate is that each 'conversion' or migration caused MAJOR economic upheaval.
- studentforce
The Black Bloc is also the darker side of all this stuff.... I don't know what it all means.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Godaddy testified to congress in favor of SOPA. When they testify against I'll be satisfied. Blog posts don't cut it.
- Bruce Lewis
Giving the number of millionaires and people in power - it's clear that those with most of the money are likely to hold most of the power. They are few.
- Kevin Costain
Perhaps whatever is in FRONT of the masses, is the leader. It could be anything really, no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin, no, no, no, the whole meme is getting away from the power of the Lowest Common Denominator
- Stephen Pickering
I think eventually we'll see the rise of fake people leading masses (like that fake pop star in Japan).. humans created virtually to lead the masses..
- Kevin Costain
yes Stephen: "TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace
- Kevin Marks
The only way I know how to get ahold of anyone directly is via email. Every other method is like waving frantically at someone while they are speeding away and their windows are tinted.
- Todd Hoff
Waiting also -- with a different audio/camera connection .. see how that works.
- John Taschek
Hey this works out very well. Get to watch live for once (9 to 5er in Central time). Plus, bonus! As I'm loading up the Kindle Fire I got for my parents, there are all these real geeks in chat to whom I can ask questions.
- Amyloo
Doesn't show you're live. Let me try again.
- John Taschek
I'll tell Christmas jokes while we are waiting to stall for time. Did you hear that one of Santa's reindeer now works for Proctor and Gambel? [Its true, Comet cleans sinks!]
- Charlie Isaacs
Apple/Microsoft don't want to compete. They only want to use anticompetitive tactics and bogus patent lawsuits, they are desperate.
- Charbax
Year Robert, MWC is an even bigger Android show just a month later.
- Charbax
Tina, agree on Best Buy, that is going to hurt them
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie - the old adage ship via FedX for less handling!
- cliveb
Last year there were 1500 booths at CES showcasing Android devices, 32 with Windows related devices, this year there'll be over 2500 booths at CES showcasing Android stuff and even fewer Windows Phone
- Charbax
android isn't just about phones any more
- Kevin Marks
my guess $40 Million (or something like that) for the main pre keynote and biggest hall and promo materials, my guess Google will take it next year
- Charbax
Steve is drinking out of his John Lennon glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the question for me is how many non-phone, non-tablet devices are running android charbax. Cameras, TVs, photo frames, etc
- Kevin Marks
Tell him to say "All we are saying is give peace a chance
- Charlie Isaacs
It sure as hell will never be Nokia ;) I agree Google will do it the year after next ... if the world hasn't ended.. obviously ;)
- kosso
Yeah Kevin, I wonder at which point Canon/Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/JVC start putting Android in their DSLR and point and shoots and camcorders, provide photo apps, direct picasa/flickr uploads. Maybe Google releases ARM Powered Google TV, Android laptops, Android platform for E Ink ereaders
- Charbax
My Jawbone Up told me that I was lethargic so I attached it to the back of Lance's bike
- Charlie Isaacs
within a year most HDTVs will have Google TV integrated
- Charbax
ARM Powered Google TV costs only $25 in parts to add to a HDTV including a 1080p webcam for Google+ Hangouts
- Charbax
But it is a good point. If stream is becoming limited by infrastructure provider plans and caps; why isn't that being solved by anyone. Last mile is limited. Spectrum is limited. What is the innovation to infrastructure that will solve it? Is anyone working on these to give us hope?
- Michael A. Romig
GoDaddy caved, and said they'll sit back and see what everyone else thinks - for now. Todd Cochrane from Geek News Central had a phone interview with Warren Adelman, the new GoDaddy CEO.
- kosso
KKR and Silver Lake Partners and Technology Crossover Ventures
- Charlie Isaacs
I think it's time Google got in to the Domain registration and DNS management business.
- kosso
@kosso - of course Sean Bean is no longer on the show ...
- John Taschek
I don't know how anyone was still on GoDaddy in the first place
- Michael Mahemoff
I have google apps domains that are white label GoDaddy ones
- Kevin Marks
Wait a sec. They "caved", but if you read the press release they admit their General Counsel, Christine Jones, helped write it. Does anyone really think they are doing a full reversal here?
- Michael A. Romig
Would you buy domains from Google? And manage your DNS records through them? I would.
- kosso
Kevin : interesting. I didn't know they did that. I think Google should do it all themselves. They could also strike some interesting info/ad deals for content etc.. it would be an interesting market. As if (someone like) GoDaddy got in to advertising a la adsense.
- kosso
maybe Obama should just announce he'd veto any SOPA bill, that'd give him some online support
- Charbax
Then that lends credence to the SOPA purpose being much broader that safe havens. Like Forbes "The Gread SOPA Conspiracy" goo.gl/exQTR. The content providers want more "controls".
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie, definitely: Take out the evil Patent Trolls
- cliveb
yeah! aha! that password is gonna protect you
- studentforce
your printer cartridge is full, but too old
- Jerome Hughes
I think you are the victim of being an early adopter, not a conspiracy of dis-operability. Scoble's HDMI example aside.
- Michael A. Romig
We'll create an encrypted darknet if they try to block stuff, the prob is maybe they'll block or slow down all packets that look like they may be used for accessing the whole darknet
- Charbax
on the moon? I thought my expenses were bad
- Kevin Marks
4K2K Apple TV for under $2K, bring it on
- Charbax
Apple brings in a much bigger base than slingbox and legitimacy. People will partner with Apple rather than go to guns against them.
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie that's funny but instead I would like to get the bike to power the tv. If you keep the pace... no problem. If you get slow the picture deteriorates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
voice controlled tv will come from Apple. Via Siri(ish)
- kosso
on the 6th day of Christmas my true-love gave to me... a bullwhip a crackin'
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If the set-top-box hardware costs $50 external and $25 internal, these types of functionalities aren't really a differentiator on a $1000-$2000 HDTV
- Charbax
Wifi is the standard, but maybe it shouldn't be. Why couldn't the market crack the WiMax nut, for example. What about the latest wireless bluetooth, will that compete?
- Michael A. Romig
It could happen, but it is the early adopter problem again. All it takes are those chips that support on the fly packet inspection and prioritization to get commoditized into home devices. Of course you can do that today with higher-end network solutions. Just not your house. So I'm thinking demand just isn't there yet for the market to give you what you want.
- Michael A. Romig
Android devices use the MHL connector/dock which is up to 20Gbps over HDMI, mirroring can't really compete with that. Mirroring is for glorified remote controlling
- Charbax
Scoble has an OC192 coming into his house
- Charlie Isaacs
I think you should end the show NOW !!
- studentforce
Apple doesn't want to include HDMI outputs cause they want you to buy extra devices
- Charbax
some of us have been doing this with wires and projectors for many years
- Jerome Hughes
if you have a popular YouTube account they encode your HD videos in realtime
- Charbax
are you holding your iphone with your left hand?
- Charbax
Scoble ran cables out of his windows and down the stairway
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: nope. Just wifi. But my airport express is right over my downstairs TV.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the politicians/Obama are corrupt
- Charbax
Apple needs to copy Sonos. I have Sonos setup in 8 rooms with Spotify and MOG and zero issues with wireless. They use their own mesh network in the house.
- Jim Long
michael - find out when Lamar is appearing in public over xmas and talk to him
- Kevin Marks
@charbax powerline is not all that great, and very unpredictable. A better solution is MOCA if you want to get to other rooms and have coax.
- Jim Long
can you talk about sex and religion when you are done with politics? :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
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- lucyjohnson91
Streaming to a nightlight is beyond wasteful. Having computers in the bedrooms of kids is not a good idea. You need to read up on your child policies.
- marstein
Cool if Jobsworth makes a guest appearance, even a cameo.
- cliveb
Hey guys! Tina, it's your turn now. ACTION.
- Nir Ben Yona
JP is not going to make it I'm afraid, clive.
- Kevin Marks
Just before the first iPad was shown by Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer showcased upcoming Tablets at CES, that were suppose to be released in that fall in partnership with HP.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Sometimes acquisitions are the fastest way to destroy value (no idea why)
- cliveb
The problem is that Huffington Post was acquired for $300 million at same time that TC was bought for about $30 million. I could see this collision coming from 100 miles away.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook recently brought Gowalla and just burried it!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Moe: I would have buried Gowalla too. In fact, I did.
- Robert Scoble
are you guys doing the gang twice a week now every week?
- Laura Norvig
Is it really the expense that's the issue? Windows 8 isn't released yet, is it?
- Brian Hendrickson
that would be amazing, Laura; or at least do one Gillmor Gang and one News Gang
- franzstehrn
Once a week, sorry. But sometimes we delay a show until Monday.
- Robert Scoble
I'd buy a Windows 8 tablet -- it's exciting that their app-building APIs are Web based. It'll be fun to make apps compared to Java.
- Brian Hendrickson
wow I connect in late and I instantly get Scoble monitor envy
- Charlie Isaacs
cliveb i forgot about that -- no wonder devs are so enamored with it. I did see a cool "responsive" app for different screen sizes - built with a webos framework
- Brian Hendrickson
I write in MSWord (a lot of time on airplanes w/out wifi) and then publish to blog or pdf. I usually code in Eclipse or xCode console
- Charlie Isaacs
I would be up the creek currently at home without having a full OS/Environment. So yeah, it's still very important.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
offline I use TextWrangler or SubEthaEdit
- Kevin Marks
Kevin does your editor also work as a signaling device?
- Brian Hendrickson
Facts, Amazon already has a patent license from Microsoft...More facts...(as of july 2011: Office 2010 continues to be the fastest-selling version of Microsoft Office in history with over 100 million licenses sold since its release a year ago.
- Stephen M
Can you invite Steve Ballmer onto the Show?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
You guys are dreaming. You should live in my world. Small businesses use Word, email, and .ppt. They don't want to change.
- Francine Hardaway
Really depends on teh kind of Enterprise. Some businesses are still used to needing to format documents nicely and are used to doing that in word.
- Laura Norvig
Sharepoint is your grandmother's attic -- where you go to store stuff you don't ever want to see again -- Benioff
- Charlie Isaacs
Way to bring it back to reality, Francine! Although agile small businesses with younger staff tend to use cloud apps more. some work entirely with google apps.
- Laura Norvig
Small businesses aren't where you think they are
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, that's right! They attach word documents to email:-)
- Francine Hardaway
...and there's MS Access, Project and Visio. They are very persistent in certain circles.
- Alex de Soto
Microsoft Has A Dozen Billion Dollar Businesses
- Stephen M
I'd like to know who (profession) uses what at different age: 50+ uses ? 15-20 yrs uses ? 20 - 25 yrs uses ? 25 - 40 yrs? 40 - 50 yrs?
- studentforce
Even though at Alcatel-Lucent we have moved to a Jive Platform people still use the MSOffice tools and store interesting docs and ppts in Jive Enterprise
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft Sold 5 Million Seats Of Office 365 In Less Than Three Months and 90% of those are small businesses
- Stephen M
do you like it, or do you just live with it?
- Kevin Marks
Charlie, it's scary how awful it is, really. Only use is version control/checkout.
- Laura Norvig
Small biz likes keeping a firm grip. WinOffice over WebSocial tools
- cliveb
it doesn't matter that Sharepoint is lame -- it's cheap and IT can install it behind the firewall, that makes it important.
- Brian Hendrickson
if goog docs was more robust people would jump fast. No loyalty to MS like there used to be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: and Box.net has something like 8 million ustomers and is doubling every 11 months.
- Robert Scoble
site licensing makes it an all or nothing decision, need to mount a major project to save anything
- Jerome Hughes
sharepoint is really bad when people try to use it for knowledge management...trying to store docs that can solve customer issues in there
- Charlie Isaacs
E-mail will persist as long as there are lawyers. Where else will people place those lengthy legal disclaimers?
- Alex de Soto
When does the 2010 Web arrive Rob :D
- David Lloyd
Tina, yep. I've tried to switch to google docs but there are bugs, load issues, and lack of complexity in formatting tools.
- Laura Norvig
I used to know how to format thinsg in word
- Kevin Marks
these days I write HTML or code instead
- Kevin Marks
Google apps just suck, even LAPD is dumping Google apps gmail
- Stephen M
Tina: That's true, but maybe from the pricing point. Most people would probably use Office if it wasn't so pricey.
- Nir Ben Yona
Office is still huge in Overseas Markets like Africa and the Middle East
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
There's QuickOffice Pro for the iPad. That will keep Office in use for a while.
- Alex de Soto
sometimes when my kids write papers they cant do it on Google docs BUT teachers dont iinsist on Word any more because Google is free
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sharepoint is not cheap next to open source content management
- Jerome Hughes
I use Google Docs because I travel so much. When I work with an enterprise client, they want me to send a Word doc because they want to download the doc to read when THEY are traveling and offline. And when I work with small businesses and startups, they don't have time to learn any new software so they use Office for Mac:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft DID NOT announce Office the ipad.. it was a rumor..why are you reporting that as fact
- Stephen M
By the way, I loaded a new app today for windows... try MetroTwit..its beautiful, and awesome too
- Stephen M
Brian yes. But I write a lot on airplanes without wifi and in conferences with crummy wifi, and I need to draft offline more than you think
- Francine Hardaway
I want to work with the Wookey! (hint nudge wink)
- cliveb
I am wondering about how this will affect the SAP/Salesforce relationship...
- Charlie Isaacs
My company is a huge Microsoft partner, gives me more reason to bash on them to make them better Stephen M
- Charlie Isaacs
I think eventually people will run their own cloud software the way they adopted running their own PCs in the '80s. it's the mainframe era of the cloud.
- Brian Hendrickson
you can get a Windows Phone for 99 cents :)
- Stephen M
I went to the real-time crunch-up, stood at a Mic and asked Jack Dorsey why Twitter wasn't decentralized like e-mail. he said the users didn't care if it was decentralized.
- Brian Hendrickson
Yes, I thought it was awesome, but the media nearly drove him under
- Francine Hardaway
MS has enough resources where they can retain their old style legacy thinking and create a new division with "new style thinking" and just let the old appendage wither and go away on its own
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is doing so bad with developers they can't sell their developer tools...oh wait, its a billion dollar business thats up 11% year over year
- Stephen M
Reed may be inline to succeed Ballmer (but up in the air now)
- cliveb
Someone needs to replace Steve Ballmer fast
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Stephen: Box.net doubled in the same year. WHich business would you rather have?
- Robert Scoble
it's not like MS is going to crash and burn, but if they don't move forward, what are they?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why do you really need email if you have threaded conversation tools?
- Laura Norvig
Microsoft had a record sales/revenue year..why replace him
- Stephen M
Regardless $$ Ballmer still needs a cloudy successor.
- cliveb
good pt Tina, also, what is their dev growth rate vs. Apple and Adroid? I paid my $99 for xcode dev without hesitation, but I don't buy ms dev licenses any more, only at my company
- Charlie Isaacs
Today you should thank me, as well for the annoying small business insights
- Francine Hardaway
I think Microsoft avoiding CES is a mistake, and seems to be based on the cost to have a keynote speaker. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
I brought the first live stream to the NFL Draft in 2007. NFL copied it in 2008. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Problem with SOPA is it gives power to fraudulent take down claims, even with the penalties. This is already a REAL PROBLEM on YouTube #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
My web-based twitter hasn't changed yet, as far as I can tell.
- Laura Norvig
the Path thing is a demographic thing. Rich, smart, techies use Apple products. That's all.
- Laura Norvig
From (very) recent experience, developing for the fragmented Android ecosystem is a pain in the ass, compared to iOS. That's why iOS seem to come first for devs.
- kosso
They've changed it so much, we, the people who made Twitter what it is today, will leave.
- kosso
they know we won't leave, we put up with the site being down half the time for years
- Kevin Marks
Testing is a pain the ass. SAP just announced delayed release of a community platform to two million users because of problems that showed up during late testing.
- Michael Krigsman
Twitter is now a product being led by too much money, managed by people searching for a business model, hiring too many people without a clue. IMHO
- kosso
not testing is even more of a pain in the ass
- Kevin Marks
Robert, life is about putting up with third parties we don;t like :-)
- Michael Krigsman
how/why is Path any better/different than what is already out there?
- Laura Norvig
just joined ... were you talking about the Kindle? the NOOK is where the action will be ..... Barnes & Noble owns or manages 57% of College Bookstores ..... think eTextbooks
- studentforce
the first iPhone didn't have apps...
- Kevin Marks
OR human beings are incredibly simply and somewhat stupid
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's hard to say what is dead or not dead, but easier to say what we want: clearly defined circles and noise controls so important signals always get to us when we need them.
- Laura Norvig
I stopped answering my landline ages ago. 100% screened.
- Laura Norvig
You guys in the USA having to pay for incoming calls has to be the most ludicrous thing ever. I couldn't believe. It's kind of understandable for international roamers. but. still. Nuts.
- kosso
that's why the bill wont pass. gov doesnt want to be responsible for phone bills
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What OSS license will WebOS be done with? This question has yet to be answered.
- kosso
WebOS all depends on HP's open source governance, and their record is hardly pristine so far.
- Michael Mahemoff
yes, I'm assuming a sensible license there, not a Javaesque situation
- Kevin Marks
If they're smart, they'll go with a standard (permissive) license, not a weird legalese one-off license which doesn't fit into corporate policies.
- Michael Mahemoff
However, Amazon (and Facebook?) forking Android may have freaked them out against any possibility of a permissive license.
- Michael Mahemoff
Interesting comments, brands on FaceBook is what you pay for the "Free" Service
- Daniel W. Crompton
Robert i'm looking at the top right corner and it's a Subaru ad -- he's not *totally* wrong
- Brian Hendrickson
Court date? Look at the background...
- Phil Gomes
Phil: Kevin Marks is in Redwood City for the geek event I'm hosting in a couple of hours.
- Robert Scoble
I "Like" some brands, music bands etc. And I click "dont show me anything from..." and I don't see this in my feed ever
- Maciej Głuszek
not seeing any packet loss when listening to you....
- Kevin Marks
I miss SV geek events ,though geek events here in the Windy City are quite awesome.
- Phil Gomes
but they are starting to surface tools in the stream itself for graph cleanup. That is what needs to happen so it's "in that moment" you can do it a piece at a time.
- Jerry Schuman
So, Acquaintances is for people who don't have the balls to unfriend someone. Hmmm.
- Laura Norvig
Sorry Kevin. Your feed breaks down a bit. We'll keep trying...talk fast!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sites need to have "Like", "Dislike" and "Damn With Faint Praise" buttons.
- Phil Gomes
This should be called "The Random Show" ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
hey man! you're violating your friends privacy :)
- john
definitely. If I want to use Facebook for my org, share to a specific page I manage, switch roles, etc., I can't do some of that fine-grained admin stuff well on mobile.
- Laura Norvig
that is so annoying, though. I hate them trying to figure out what I want to see.
- Laura Norvig
it would be interesting to provide a Radian6-like keyword/filter mechanism that consolidates your personal "rivers of data"
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie, that's why I use lists. The ones *I* created, not the ones Facebook tried to foist on me.
- Laura Norvig
But you should be able to filter within the lists to "escalate" the important subjects/topics (to you) of that minute/hour
- Charlie Isaacs
Ah, true. Show me what my nptech friends post if it's about tech, but not about their babies. But you do kind of lose the personal touch of social networks that way.
- Laura Norvig
Facebook is doing something interesting with the way they now group together who and how many people have shared a specific link.
- Laura Norvig
I hope that Scoble was watching my "Honey Badger Customer Service" video :)
- Charlie Isaacs
how 'bout the amount of money our senators and reps earn from insider trading ????
- studentforce
Laura: once on suicide statistics, once on whether Kevin Fox should visit FF more often. You were right both times.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble, yes and no. I think they stumbled by trying to foist lists on the 99% who don't use them. It seems awkward. I now have two Family lists. One I created myself and one Facebook created for me. It said I could merge them but that didn't work.
- Laura Norvig
(Insufficient bandwidth on this train to watch the video feed. Trying to infer conversation from the comments.)
- Bruce Lewis
Studentforce: and apps like Socioclean even let you see exactly what Facebook is exposing about you and you can delete everything you don't want other people to see about you.
- Robert Scoble
What *doesn't* let you stalk Robert Scoble? :-)
- Bruce Lewis
msft and aapl supporting this nonsense
- Paul E. Ester
Of course, MSFT and APPL are media businesses. Microsoft with Xbox. Apple with Disney and all the content it delivers on the iOS platform.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin almost always has the coolest British accent on GG, Paul
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kindle Fire Mini-Review: Fits nicely on the nightstand. Video and music playback is very good as is implementation of the cloud. Browser OK but Flash slows it down. Reading OK (backlight helps at night) but not as good as with e-ink. Size is OK but feels heavier than the iPad because of bulk. Will not replace my iPad.
- Alex de Soto
hotter than pictures are live streams
- Paul E. Ester
since G plus doesn't bring stuff in, is not an aggregator, you're only getting native conversations. We need the uber real-time search combining Facebook, Twitter, G Plus, etc.
- Laura Norvig
I read Google+ for the pictures oops I mean the articles
- Charlie Isaacs
Laura: bing! Dale: what is there to talk about? It's a great device because of the price and the Amazon ecosystem.
- Robert Scoble
How it is to use, quality, etc. Ya know, review type stuff
- Dale Lature
IOW, why is it good enough to be the only other tablet next to iPad?
- Dale Lature
Dale: hasn't that been talked to death by the pros? Most of which have been pretty negative, mostly because people are comparing to iPad or other Android tablets. Why is it good enough to be the only tablet next to iPad? Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. $200. $200. $200.
- Robert Scoble
and you guys are more positive, and are people I trust more than the Mainstream emdia
- Dale Lature
Amazon is why I was initially enthused...just the world they offer...but what's left is the usability....I think I'm getting one based on what I've heard which is basically "Not bad perfomance"
- Dale Lature
Robert, do you have one and have you written about it or talked about it elsewhere?
- Dale Lature
Dale: I've had my hands on it. I'm not interested in it. For my uses the iPad is totally superior. But I will buy them for other people, due solely to the low price.
- Robert Scoble
I have a variety of other Android tablets too. I never use them. They just don't measure up to iPad.
- Robert Scoble
Curious as to how everyone likes/doesn't like a "monday" show? Beginning of the week...do you like that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Most awesome is to get it to the cloud fast so I can watch it on appleTV. The NoAgenda Podcast gets posted within a couple of hours and I love the reliability of knowing it will be available if I miss it live
- Paul E. Ester
The Gillmor Gang is recording live today at a special day and time. Monday 9am Pacific Time. Guests: Robert Scoble, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks, and John Taschek.
- Steve Gillmor
How are Amazon's video offerings better than iTunes?
- Bruce Lewis
iPad 1 goes for ~$300 on craigslist these days.
- Bruce Lewis
(I look at Boston craigslist -- SF Bay might be different).
- Bruce Lewis
I'm amazed that we even talk about video/music creation on an iPad today -- these things were originally just large smartphones that didn't make phone calls.
- Bruce Lewis
Couldn't disagree more - Google's pushing out features measured and incrementally - AND don't forget that they have a massive installed base of Google Apps users - they're poised to become a major force in B2B social networking
- Ankush Narula
Both Google+ and Google Buzz are dead pool!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Google should just buy Twitter and play to their strengths. Advertising on Twitter
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I'm going to the "real" movies tonight. Tower Heist
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Netflix doesn't have 10% of the worlds movies, Obama needs to legalize piracy, then all the movies can just go up on YouTube or any other servers and you can get any movie for just paying $10/month through taxes
- Charbax
Amazon Prime type of yearly pricing should provide unlimited access to all ebooks, articles, text etc
- Charbax
Guess they started a bit earlier... time gets fuzzy. They came to birthday party for one of my daughters band mates which was around 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jerry Schuman
Hanson still performs - they've actually matured as a band -- they are not bad.
- John Taschek
I heard they were actually very talented musicians
- Jerry Schuman
It's one of the best things about having both an Apple and Android device is seeing what's being blocked or obvoscated by one side or the other.
- Aron Michalski
microsoft has a track record of acquiring things that should breathe life into it... but they never do. The Microsoft culture smothers them all.
- Michael Markman
Microsoft Research can barely do it (Kinect being the only exception I can think of)
- Kevin Marks
Yep, that may be true Robert. I'm kinda weird.
- Debi Jones
Everyone my age has a token profile without a photo on it or anything written on their wall. Their kids put them on, but they don't engage
- Francine Hardaway
Betcha those queries that lead to snarky answers today will lead to useful results in the future as Apple learns and itierates Siri.
- Michael Markman
What about people who are not on Google+ Robert
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Android has a similar feature - voice search has been there for ages, voice command is separate. they need to unify and tune it.
- Kevin Marks
Alan Kay used to say that the intelligent assistant should be programmed to act as a slightly daft, deaf butler, so you forgive it when it can't help.
- Michael Markman
Say, I've been pondering the role of journalists as so-called "experts", but they actually don't do anything other than report on things other people actually do. Is there actually the large disconnect that I think there is?
- Kevin Costain
@Kevin - I have that book somewhere at home too... be hard to find it I think.. :(
- Kevin Costain
There is no current business model for profitable newspaper publishing, and people say blogging the replacement. However, there is also no business model for bloggers, in general. Seems that news has a little problem.
- Michael Krigsman
@Micheal - indeed, the business model for that stuff may be worth investigation.. but I speak more of those in the technology industry (that make money by making technology work, or making technology) and those that report ABOUT it. The line that those that report and those that do it seems to be less delineated.. something is up there though I'm probably not articulating it well enough. :)
- Kevin Costain
Major manufacturers have ceased production of new motion picture film cameras; cinema as we once knew it is dead -- http://www.salon.com/2011...
- David Berry
my mac kernel panicked. rebooted, trying skype again
- Kevin Marks
I see allot of these BOLD statements about technology almost for the sake of being bold.. but where is the substance behind it? Are these people making these bold statements ever in the position to have to back these things up?
- Kevin Costain
Perhaps that will pass.. I guess the good thing is people's memories tend to be short.. and when they're locked into two and three year contracts, they won't remember this when it's time to renew.
- Kevin Costain
Check this out.. Gmail just gave me an obvious SPAM message.. I checked more details and it says "Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.". I'm thinking, that's not too strict if that's all they're checking.. :)
- Kevin Costain
gabe is commissioning stories for techmeme now?
- Kevin Marks
Copycats, easy and low cost to create Apps and get Distribution, more freelancers than Startups.
- cliveb
I think the arbiter of integrity is the sense they put truth and objectivity above money and personal gain
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: Integrity is "are you what you seem?" So, if you are a criminal, and everyone knows it, you have integrity. Now, if everyone thinks you are a Rabbi, but you actually are a criminal, then you don't have integrity.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: Indeed that is one nice definition of integrity.. but I'm more interested in what decides who does or doesn't operate with integrity?
- Kevin Costain
yeah - like Omar on The Wire - that dude had integrity
- Ankush Narula
someone flew a kite in the WSJ which gabe picked up. Maybe they were trying to get valuations down.
- Kevin Marks
Why is Steve getting more credit than Bill gates? Bill put a PC in the hands of villagers in developing countries. He put them in failing inner city schools. Steve Jobs put computers in the hands of the well-off.
- David Lloyd
I do know what it's like to live with integrity. Indeed, this is essential. But, when we have those out there and we lack personal involvement with these people. What helps me know that this person has integrity.
- Kevin Costain
I consider this more of a Klout thing. Klout being a measure of influence, right?
- Kevin Costain
Klout measures online popularity and topicality. I wouldn't go as far as saying it truly measures influence.
- Robert Scoble
But it gets us at least partway down that road.
- Robert Scoble
Eh. Bill Gates changed computing as much as Steve Jobs did - the love won't be the same for Bill because the Microsoft message has become about malware, "Product Activations", and sales channels
- Ankush Narula
the Mac was the first beige box... the PCs were metal before
- Kevin Marks
There is a reasonable chance Bill Gates will help erradicate Malaria and put clean water in villages in the Sudan. I know who I think changed the world the most.
- David Lloyd
It doesn't have to be pissing contest. They've both done great things
- Stephen Pickering
Sure. Popularity and topicality are not influence. I think something like tying honesty and integrity to an identity would give words of those with more of it, more weight.
- Kevin Costain
I've read Steve Jobs was a dick at times. +1 for him right there.... :)
- Kevin Costain
The greatest geniuses always have the greatest weaknesses. Without the dick part, you wouldn't have the genius part
- Stephen Pickering
I do consider Jobs a genius. If I had met and interacted with him, I'd probably know for sure.
- Kevin Costain
This specific world required a new group of experts to translate what was happening. Then this world began becoming the the world around us all.
- Aron Michalski
Well, guys.. I have to run.. cheers.. thanks for the show today..!
- Kevin Costain
and when the money gets big enough, the old money types (all money types) take it for real. It becomes mainstream when the big dogs want a bite.
- Aron Michalski
I like Doc Searls' Buddhist point that without Jobs vacating the space, further growth is not possible.
- Francine Hardaway
That was a really good summary by Doc, made me feel a lot
- Stephen Pickering
A life well-lived. What more can anyone expect? It's a sad thing but hardly an ending.
- Karoli
I regret Steve's "hobby" -Apple TV- did not roll out in elaborated fashion before he passed. I was looking forward to Apple disrupting another hide-bound industry: TV
- r Macdonald
Robert is choked up and it's choking me up
- Robert J Taylor
r Macdonald: I agree. I can't wait to see what Apple's working on there.
- Robert Scoble
true Karoli, but who is there to lovingly build it and cast a magic spell on it
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
Karoli, I think we overestimate how far he was able to see into the future. Remember it's not that he invented the tablet, or the mp3 player, or the computer: he made them BETTER.
- Francine Hardaway
some gaps on the stream, but not enough to lose the meaning
- Kevin Marks
That's what worries me. He somehow needs to be here to help us make things better.
- Francine Hardaway
It's also part of our time. Hewlett and Packard had just as big an impact, I'd argue, but their impact was in a time before YouTube. Steve Jobs is a world-wide celebrity, arguably the first of Silicon Valley's history.
- Robert Scoble
Here is a link to the Tim Berner-Lee post yesterday, about using NeXT to support his development of URIs, HTTP and HTML http://www.w3.org/QA...
- r Macdonald
I felt that way when I heard Any Grove had Parkinson's disease. He is a hero to me.
- Francine Hardaway
the next Steve Jobs will be a group of people, a braintrust who can work together like great musicians
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Well, Tim Cook has $60 billion to push around and he has Steve Jobs' shoes to fill, so he knows that he better do some big things. But, most of my head is saying Moe is right.
- Robert Scoble
Little known Steve's support for medical research. Stanford's Joel Dudley convinced Apple to add Ruby and other capabilities http://macresearch.org/about_m...
- cliveb
Tina: funny, I wrote just that to someone last night.
- Robert Scoble
Tim Cook seems a smart guy but its like replacing Mick Jagger with Kenny Rodgers for the Stones
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
Moe: "replacing Mick Jagger with Kenny Rodgers" ouch
- r Macdonald
Danny is right about the carriers. I can't figure out an economical way to upgrade my iPhone. If I switch to Verizon, I can get a phone for $299, and then I have to do something with whatever I left left on my AT&T contract. And it's not unlocked.
- Francine Hardaway
android is a knock-off of sidekick, but it got a great browser from Apple
- Kevin Marks
I agree - our whole world has changed.
- Teri Temme
Jobs was a great and powerful pitchman. He had to pitch his revolutionary trojan horses to folks like printers, cell carriers, record companies, publishers and film and video distributors. Apple will need to replace this facet of his talent. Who will be able to do this at Apple?
- Alex de Soto
funny, Tina, I was thinking the same thing.
- Karoli
Alex, Apple has other people who do that, but no-one as well.
- Kevin Marks
Alex: Kevin is right. Jobs isn't replaceable. But they will find their own voice over the next few years.
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Kevin: I really hope you are right. I'm counting on it.
- Alex de Soto
the Angel technique still works on them. and parody signs. Violence is what they want, then they sue.
- Kevin Marks
Westboro are just culture parasites. They attack anything popular so that they can get paid attention to. If we stop paying attention to them they go away.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting undercurrent to the discussion is the continued fight against the entrenched interests -- carriers, publishers, networks. That's a point of commonality for all us in the tech world. Interoperability will be huge, but it will take huge efforts to bring it about.
- Ian McGee
Robert, all of those pieces are teams. I suspect that will be the key to Apple's success.
- Karoli
Both Newsweek and Time are having special Tribute issues for Steve. He was a Rock Star
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
I wonder how many people will use "Cards" to send sympathy messages to Apple once the app is released. When I first heard about "Cards" I immediately thought of Steve Jobs, even though many laughed about this seemingly silly app.
- Alex de Soto
Right Kevin :) I could go on with thousands of examples where Jobs made incredibly inspired design decisions. He was more like the old car designers who lovingly thought about every curve on a car.
- Alex de Soto
Danny, iTunes was Job's way of keeping us humble. ;-)
- Ian McGee
It could be that iTunes complexity was to try to assure the music industry that their system would be "safe" - as far flung as that might seem
- Stephen Pickering
But Stallman is probably autistic. My own son does stuff that's hurtful without realizing it because he just doesn't have the brain for social cues.
- Robert Scoble
So, I should be more understanding of Stallman and his condition.
- Robert Scoble
I was talking to Rana-June Sobhany about that - iPad as musical instrument
- Kevin Marks
Most of the people in the world have Facebook. That actually is a brilliant decision and the Gillmor Gang in 2020 will discuss just how brilliant it was.
- Robert Scoble
Reminds me of how Clinton can persuade you even when you disagree
- Stephen Pickering
Some have said Steve and Apple didn't "Get social" What do you think?
- r Macdonald
I don't think its they didn't get it, they just couldn't do everything
- Stephen Pickering
r Macdonald: both true and false. Jobs got how we would talk about his products and made them HYPER conversational. Why else ship an iPod with white headphones?
- Robert Scoble
Jobs jettisoned the physical keyboard and need for a stylus on a smartphone. That move alone was brilliant and gutsy.
- Alex de Soto
Still waiting for Apple to release their own Mapping Product
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
My question mark is how will Apple do with the Cloud?
- Stephen Pickering
Interesting take, Robert. Products that are inherently drivers of social discussion & adoption, but no closed gardens for social interchange.
- r Macdonald
Stephen: I do worry about what will happen next week. Hope it goes well.
- Alex de Soto
do you think there were problems with the iPhone 5
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
i hope Danny is talking about upgrading the phone...not the wife ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why take 15 months to release the same phone
- Moe Glitz
from iPod
I think Bezos is enabling people to build awesome things especially with the Cloud. The investment in capacity and the functionality of AWS is awesome. Changes IT immensely.
- Robert J Taylor
Kindle has no apps because Amazon was holding off on their platform, waiting for Android. Change again to WebOS and they set the clock back another 18 months.
- Michael Mahemoff
More likely Oracle buys Palm for mobile strategy like SAP (funded by Android royalties)
- cliveb
Walmart otoh has a blank slate and apparently a mandate for acquisitions.
- Michael Mahemoff
The Amazon Android fork already has set them back in time. Will only get worse unless Amazon creates a full OS team to keep their fork relevent.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
a blank slate? is that one with no apps?
- Kevin Marks
Is Jeff Bezos trying to be the 'new' Steve Jobs?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Bollocks, Kevin, there's no free market in communications. That's why we don' t have fiber connections at competitive prices
- Stephen Pickering
infrastructure evolves based on demand which also evolves
- Jerome Hughes
we have the worst of both worlds - local monopolies with no structural separation
- Kevin Marks
Through Motorola, Google will copy Apple by opening Google Stores, selling Google Phones, Tablets, Netbooks, TV's and everything Android
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
The fork is the big issue which should be the real concern for buying the Fire.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
my mac.com accounts have stopped worked
- Kevin Marks
One week after Apple launches their next iPhone, Google will showcase their new Smartphone. Just how good is their latest Andriod Sweet sounding Software upgrade.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
All of this is a mute point. As soon as it is OPENED or Cracked it is a game changer. Barnes and Noble NOOK
- amarquart
From the Amazon website: "Your Favorite Apps and Games... Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, The Weather Channel and more, plus a great paid app for free every day. All apps are Amazon-tested on Kindle Fire for the best experience possible."
- Alex de Soto
woohoo!! Amazon Android free apps. I got some of those in my Dell Streak 7
- Da
so why is Google adding 3rd campus in Seattle (840 person Bothell bldg)
- cliveb
This show always continues to amaze me. Packed with info and educated opinion. You guys rock! Sorry don't mean to applaud our own show but...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wait a minute. Windows 8 is focused on tablet use....
- amarquart
I don't even remember to charge the blackberry
- Kevin Marks
amarquart: exactly. It's far less interesting.
- Robert Scoble
One thing Rim does is product placement. Seems like every new movie and tv show the actors are using a Blackberry. Won't HTML5 help Rim hang on?
- Stephen Pickering
those Android IDEOS phones that Huawei's been selling like hotcakes in Kenya is probably optimized for long battery life
- Da
and minis (or at least the OS) ~ a good friend in that space says the best thing ever to happen to RIM is iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
facebook zero was aimed at that maket
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer for nobel prize in black holes!
- cliveb
Just hope Robert doesn't disappear down one
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
hmm, I dunno though, in the most of the world, Microsoft's still pretty unanimous with computers. It might be a no-name box but it runs on Windows
- Da
companies in the business of herding cats
- Jerome Hughes
I'm glad I have no Klout. I'd rather learn a language to communicate with someone else in the world than know the t shirt preference of a 20 something in a mall...
- Aron Michalski
his Klout score is zero but he's in everyone's circle, he's the most interesting man in the world
- Da
follower spam! not a fan of sharing G+ circle
- cliveb
If the iCloud goes social by allowing all iOS users to share their photos, music and other forms of media. Couldn't Apple be a Social Player
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I helped a friend with a problem (how would that effect my score if I didn't send them a promoted link?)
- Aron Michalski
Everyone wants to collect your most personal details with intimate fidelity, to sell more and more shit you don't really need << bad mood about this today.
- Michael Krigsman
great shot of Steve chuckling, Tina!
- Jerome Hughes
We need centralization to build markets and consolidate customers, but at some point it's too much. Question becomes, what is that breakover point where it becomes bad.
- Michael Krigsman
Scoble looks like he's in a Peter Gabriel video...
- Aron Michalski
people use twitter, people don't use google+
- Mark Vaske
G+ devrel advice set up a circle just for Scoble (only go when u hv time)
- cliveb
Zuckerberg on G+ follows Marks's law of twitter: if you tweet you lose followers; if you're retweeted you gain followers. By not posting, no-one unfollows Zuck
- Kevin Marks
Not posting public and not posting aren't the same thing. It's possible Zuckerberg has posted, just not publicly.
- James Williams
What Google is doing is building a cloud operating system, and the value proposition is the integration of all the parts, with a Social Network being just one part
- Stephen Pickering
Counting only posts is not the same as counting all interaction.
- James Williams
Peter Norvig's researchers and machine learning are all over G+
- cliveb
Posts + comments should be used as a measure against tweets
- Brian Sullivan
but unless google releases figures like twitter just did, that would be hard to compare
- Kevin Marks
any thoughts about the WSJ article on Zynga? "We're an analytics company masquerading as a gaming company." Different goal makes for different business plan?
- Aron Michalski
It's not so much search as it is getting content onto their system as oppossed to a competitor's cloud system that is closed off from the open web
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin, I don't think +1s are conceptually the same. I plus +1 things that I agree with, not necessarily things I want to save for later (I have a Favorites circle for that).
- James Williams
Herman Caine seemed the most Reaganesque to me. He was cool.
- Stephen Pickering
G+ is like scanning a newspaper rather than having a channel on 24/7
- Aron Michalski
I tried their exporter out when talking about microformats with Sarah Perez this week, and was surprised how few g+ posts I'd made
- Kevin Marks
Danny, I just figured out why Elliot wanted real names.com
- Keith Teare
what happens when netflix looses starz?
- Mark Vaske
Bartz proves enterprise CEOs mismatched for Consumer Web
- cliveb
Prodigy > AOL > Yahoo! > Facebook > ?
- Alex de Soto
robert can you mute, I'm getting echo from you
- Kevin Marks
Here's a question: who do you take an established community and port them over if they don't respond to social gold stars?
- Aron Michalski
Don't solve problems, don't fix anything, do something cool
- Stephen Pickering
...and here's the part of the show where we provide major SV company's lots of free advice! You're welcome
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There are plenty of users(targets) who don't play games, don't check in, don't collect stickers ("grown ups"?) how do you bag them and get them into your universe? Purchase?
- Aron Michalski
There are smart, valid people in coach. Spending 3 times more to sit in the front of the plane to get to the same fucking place is just...dopey.
- Aron Michalski
In the early days, that was true because to be on FB, you originally had to be a college student.
- James Williams
I'll take a fat seat anytime the rich stay home. It's nice to be able to reach into your own pants pocket and pull out something (which is hard to do in coach without dislocating your shoulder...)
- Aron Michalski
Kevin he is saying that apple is driving the usage that brings notifications back to the hardware...
- Mark Vaske
Apple didn't invent multitasking....Android and WebOS had it first.
- James Williams
Danny carriers don't control apple software unlike android
- Mark Vaske
Thanks - told him the other day I didn't realize forever would mean 20 &(#($ years
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so absolute control and no choice is better.
- Aron Michalski
There are multiple app stores on Apple. There is Cydia and OpenMarket.
- James Williams
well, Apple had it in 1985 when Andy Herzfeld wrote switcher, but i know what you mean
- Kevin Marks
FriendFeed is now available in Persian! Thanks again to all of our Persian users — it has been extremely exciting for us to see FriendFeed so widely used around the world. You can set your language preference here: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Any way we could auto-translate (or even have a link with the option to?)? It'd be great to really be able to collaborate with the non-English speaking world...
- Chris Reichow
wow, another language... I can't read it, but that is cool! :)
- Susan Beebe
Now if we could only filter out languages other then our own and have the lang:en search filter.
- DarknessFalls
You're welcome! We are excited to better support our Persian users.
- Bret Taylor
This feels so good to be able to view the pages in a way are eyes used to see Persian writings. Thank you so much! We really appreciate your effort! Thanks again ! :)
- انجل
Great Bret! I remember that in the past some persian people wrote here that whould be nice to have FF interface also in persian, probabilly because their language is very different and english isn't so diffused such in Europe. A welcome to persian friends! :)
- Roberto
from fftogo
bretçim herkes google plus'a gidiyor ama ben seni bırakmam ^^
- Aynebilim
Aynebilim'e katılıyorum Bret. Bir sürü idiotla paylaşsam da burayı, vazgeçemiyorum işte. - Ben bu yüzden hiç kimseden gidemem gitmemmmm.. la la laaa
- pippi haşmet
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum..bana abone olur musun ^^
- Aynebilim
I figured it would take 3-6 months for a default list - but they did it even sooner! The problem is that celebs have no desire to interact with normals. Twitter allows them to spread the message with just talking to, here they want you to talk with - that won't work. But what the freak do I know, I don't have 100,000 followers so my thoughts are useless apparently.
- Allen Stern
Allen: they needed to change their suggestions. Telling me to follow Mark Zuckerberg, who has never posted, is funny but really bad for new users to the service.
- Robert Scoble
hm, Kevin Rose's google plus page is result 2 for 'kevin' now (in an incognito window)
- Kevin Marks
oh and btw - i predict 60 days and google+ will have aggregation too.
- Allen Stern
fun fact; the bit of Moto that makes set top boxes was once an independent company called General Instruments. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO at one point.
- Michael Markman
Kevin - self mute if you can. its better that way if you control
- Tina Chase Gillmor
As long as Android app revenues are lower than iOS app revenues - Android vs iOS comparisons are moot. iOS hardware profits are the bulk of smartphone profits.
- Ankush Narula
Why did he get so dang sick in the first place? He's too young. However, people do retire as they approach 60. Could he just be ready to work on the UFO?
- Colleen
from iPhone
@coldbrew I am given to bouts of wild enthusiasm
- Francine Hardaway
I'm still one of the crazies thinking that personal servers will rule the roust once everyone understands decentralization and simple server management.
- coldbrew
Like Apple being kind of "too big to fail" - the currency of IT universe?
- #Robert Redl
We can still use load balancers on AWS but our app servers will be on-premise.
- coldbrew
That perception of perfection is what people called Jobs' "reality distortion field," which is an amazing part of his legacy for Apple's brand.
- Tom Guarriello
...and he's been aroound long enoughto set the bar very high
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"Great directors are the ones who don't have to say anything -- you know what I am saying?"
- The Ghost of Library Past
coldbrew, agreed once tacit knowledge becomes the new IP
- cliveb
That quote was used to calm down shareholders
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Let's parrot out of context quotations...
- coldbrew
"When it's ready" is the Apple mantra
- Kevin Marks
Sometimes I'm scared for Scoble for saying the things he does, but what he says is quite interesting.
- coldbrew
The rationale is psychological..."we have to be in the tablet business...it's growing too fast for us to miss out..." Not sound, but understandable.
- Tom Guarriello
OS protection....The more people use IOS devices, the more irrelevant the others become.
- Karoli
"It takes more time to make a fake" but they are all rushing these products
- Mark Vaske
Steve Ballmer told everyone that a HP Windows Slate would be out soon. That quote came 3 weeks before Steve Jobs showed the iPad.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
HP had a bigger vision than copying the iPad - webOS was meant to be used across many products and form factors
- Ankush Narula
The iphone was definitely a life saver during my last European trip. Great GPS, awesome camera, amazing communication with friends from all over the world and the Time Out app was brilliant.
- Nir Ben Yona
It hasn't happened because the Android OS doesn't seem to perform consistently across devices
- Ankush Narula
idk about that, apple has the most developers, and they control and make the best hardware...
- Mark Vaske
capacitive touch changed lots of things
- coldbrew
kevin yr audio keeps building up as you are silent can u switch toheadphone?
- Steve Gillmor
Well, I''m not a dev today, but tomorrow, who knows?
- Francine Hardaway
I can produce the show, switch shots and chat at once! well.... sort of...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes the brain can only do one thing at a time (generally) but the brain does it much faster than a computer. The computer has to be able to multitask in order to keep up with the brain
- Eric de Oude
@francine - I doubt steve g is doing much dev stuff either, but that doesnt mean you cant get in it. Its $100
- Mark Vaske
Multitasking over rated, talking on cell phones, watch drivers
- cliveb
Where is the Android version of the ipod touch?
- coldbrew
Wish Apple would make better speakers for all of their products
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I have a feature phone with a low cost carrier, and a ipod touch for voip at home.
- coldbrew
@ Moe hardware speakers arent meant to be awesome...
- Mark Vaske
@Robert - Exactly. External audio is better audio
- Mark Vaske
Sorry I only caught the end of this, stuck in Honolulu airport. Mahalo, Aloha over and out :) Will have to watch the recording...sounds like it was great.
- Charlie Isaacs
HP has not sold anything yet. It seems the CEO put all the options on the table. I can link to some techtarget article from today that was actually good, if you are interested.
- coldbrew
can't seem to keep Seth's feed up. Think he's having signal problems on his end
- Tina Chase Gillmor
From some chatter on hackernews from former employees and consultants of Autonomy, it sounds like more of an enterprise sales org, rather than engineering and technology.
- coldbrew
for how long have we heard... who cares about Apple, they've only got x% of the unit shipment market share for computers?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: and they make almost all the profits.
- Robert Scoble
Is it a question of hardware vs. software or enterprise vs. consumer?
- coldbrew
WebOS can join Newton in device heaven. Name a single platform that has risen from its former ashes by a new owner after the brain trust left.
- Jerry Schuman
Oh goody, I am not the only one getting spam on Google+ ... augh
- Susan Beebe
About 10% of the shares I get this way are useful/relevant; 90% not. I have a stock message I share w/ people in the 90% column, that asks them nicely to stop. Most say "sure," and I don't hear from them again.
- Denise Howell
Oh Steve.... You are missing out. Seems like you are just not giving it a chance, especially if you aren't even posting....
- Ben Hanten
I am troubleshooting a Facebook problem :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
I prefer pidgeons and usenet, personally.
- coldbrew
with tt, you're sharing another activity while conversing about it
- Jerome Hughes
the listener can't know what is coming up, or hear more than 3 songs by the same artist per hour on a channel, plus reporting rules etc. If those are all satisfied, there is a statutory rate of something like a tenth of a cent per song per listener. Right Denise?
- Kevin Marks
may be in nokia dominated countries like india. windows phone 7 can make some impact if any
- Abhijeet Desai
John has a cute little silver box hanging over his head. like a video game. What happens when you smash it ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There will be only iOS, Android & RIM phones in the future
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
"the cream, the cream, it's on the shelf"
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks to BBM, iMessage, Disco/Huddle, FB Messages - the fragmentation will keep SMS winning - and AT&T will be happy to charge you up the butt for it
- Ankush Narula
Ankush: and Photobucket's CEO says Android is growing like a week. iOS is growing healthily. RIM? Headed down in usage. I don't see any way it gets out of this death spiral.
- Robert Scoble
It's what will bring Google wallet to the masses. NFC is a great idea - but it takes an age for the hardware to catch up. Moto shortcuts that problem
- David Ashwood
Maybe we will see a Vivotech acquisition.
- coldbrew
Exactly - carriers are one of the prime lags ;)
- David Ashwood
Robert: pretend most people don't run apps on their Blackberries - they use e-mail, SMS, BBM, web and maybe a few choice apps
- Ankush Narula
Carriers will be the backbone of wifi - virtual wifi providers like Fon will spring up - but carriers are still trying to understand what that means. Remember they don't want to be just a pipe
- David Ashwood
Waiting for the famous call. I hear John Borthwick (a Venture Capitalist from UK) will be on the call today along with most of the usual suspects.
- Robert Scoble
I guess I'm gonna go out and work on tweeting something worth responding to...
- Aron Michalski
Mainly follow Sports, Tech and News Streams
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
gesture bleed from service to service, have been seeing some such things on #FB for a long time "x and x are now friends" though possibly more privately
- Jerome Hughes
For many years it was the absolute best way to communicate in realtime internationally without additional charges.
- Aron Michalski
So crazy to be frightened of the medium. Was it Doc Searls who talked about the silliness of considering monetizing your front porch? Same thing. Blame the front porch if someone is conspiring on it.
- Amyloo
they will create chaos here if they cut communications off when they think they should. what?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
An API for Google Maps that shows zombies where the riots are occurring?
- Aron Michalski
Most teenagers can't afford a Smartphone, but they can afford a cheap Blackberry.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
is Blackberry going to further lose business users by association with rioters?
- Kevin Marks
Klout shout give points for shutting up. Our fearless leader often says that what is not said can be more important.
- Aron Michalski
Robert only cares about filtering because he has a million friends. Under 1000, who cares?
- Vezquex
Scoble is a hoarder. It's an interesting realm to be in, data hoarding but it's not for everyone. Or for that matter, most any individual other than Scoble.
- Aron Michalski
surely K counts babbling against you, etc.
- Jerome Hughes
He doesn't have access to my stream, as he stated a while back that he doesn't care. He lost my vote and access to my data.
- Aron Michalski
I don't look at his either. One less filter needed.
- Aron Michalski
Trying to decipher what Steve just said about Google Search and Twitter.
- Darren
More people does not equal more interesting!!!
- Aron Michalski
More interesting people equals more engagement.
- Aron Michalski
if you built NYC from scratch it would be like Brasilia
- Kevin Marks
If you built NYC from scratch again it would suck and not be NYC.
- Aron Michalski
Twitter hasn't evolved organically in over 2 years. If they were, they wouldn't have moved against the developer community that made them such a success story.
- Darren
I just realized how utterly and completely fraught with jargon these weekly talks are. I live in two worlds. Most of my friends would be sure this is a different language.
- Laura Norvig
Google+ is not on this list, yet. Mostly because I haven't got a handle on its core value as a news trigger. If you're Scoble, the value is obvious as he is now demonstrating by turning it into his blog. But sooner or later the service will have to decide what it wants to be when it grows up — a conversation hub with no tools for rapid synthesis of knowledge, a social graph to challenge Twitter (it's getting there fast), or some other thing perhaps more substantial than currently appreciated, like a stalking horse for YouTube live streaming aka the social broadcast network.
- Steve Gillmor