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still no mention of the 3G iPhone, incidentally
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"one more thing"
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
@Dean the "OMT" is coming.
- Steve Rubel
Good catch
- John Tyra
i'm willing to trade that for a new MBP
- Anthony Citrano
as anthony ha says "god, if there's no 3g iphone, there will be rioting in the virtual streets of the blogosphere"
- Eric Eldon
I really hope it's still coming. Otherwise Apple's stocks will drop as fast as a brick
- Andre Heinrichs
@eric, the native are getting hostile!
- MG Siegler
There is the announcement
- Andre Heinrichs
@mg they sure is!
- Eric Eldon
i smell it
- MG Siegler
it's coming
- Frederic
we ran out a few weeks ago
- Frederic
next 'challenges': 3g, enterprise, 3rd party apps, more countries
- Frederic
I missed it, damn cheering crowd!
- Gez
Cheeper iPhone!
- Gez
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Why did Facebook go public? They couldn't figure out the privacy settings either.
- cliveb
That may be the funniest joke all day
- Francine Hardaway
Hanging out, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Hanging out, waiting for the live feed. Haha. Steve must be watching the closing reports on the Facebook IPO.
- Brad Acker
I have a strong feeling we're gonna hear a lot of FACEBOOK today ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
almost ready to rumble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There's not much to say about it — other than it's overhyped, not worth the price currently. In the long run, it might be a big winner; but when you have so many investors willing to buy stock in a company that has not really figured out how to make money or is still experimenting and has a CEO who just spent $1 billion on a company without revenues, it is still a BIG RISK at the...
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- Brad Acker
I put in an order for 100 shares at 39 and it was never filled. Must have been too busy with big shareholders. I wanted to see where it would go.
- Francine Hardaway
Almost ready! On in 10,9,8...
- Robert Scoble
Yay, voices, video connection made!!!
- Brad Acker
John, are you cold?
- Brad Acker
Google chart.
- Brad Acker
The big story is the systems failure of NASDAQ.
- Jerry Schuman
The medium truly is the message
- Stephen Pickering
New Flipboard update with Soundcloud is awesome!
- Nir Ben Yona
There's always Mercedes to BMW.
- Alex de Soto
What about audio on Flipboard Robert? Sorry Ben. Typed too slow. You beat me to it.
- Alex de Soto
Ask Samsung about the 10 billion dollar market nosedive after they got tossed as a supplier
- Jerry Schuman
The problem is these two year contracts
- Stephen Pickering
do you know how many 12 year olds have iPhones? Im not sure Apple is a luxury brand anymore.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nokia is done.. The moment you start dipping into your cash.. the fat lady starts singing. Actually in Nokia's case she might yoddle
- Jerry Schuman
Google+ seems done.
- cliveb
thank my point John. Everyone has an iphone now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's one of the keys. in Mobile Apple isn't more expensive
- Stephen Pickering
BB now selling 'em for $50
- Jerome Hughes
I haven't got an iPhone
- Kevin Marks
Cliveb, I don't think Google+ is done. My friends are just coming on
- Francine Hardaway
Because of this two year thing, I still have a crappy 4, well it's not crappy, but I want a new iPhone every year
- Stephen Pickering
NPR on Flipboard is gorgeous.
- Alex de Soto
Flipscam
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe The Beatles can go on Flipboard to excite Stephen.
- Alex de Soto
Beatles on Soundcloud now
- Kevin Marks
hmmm Pintrest.... add it to flipboard... :)
- Orville Chomer
Pinterest replaces browsing through glossy magazines
- Kevin Marks
plant
- Jerome Hughes
No I'm not the plant. :)
- Alex de Soto
Kevin, I like Fab better. You can also buy
- Francine Hardaway
But Soundcloud isn't unlimited
- Stephen Pickering
It does play in the background on Flipboard and you can continue to explore other stories.
- Alex de Soto
Let's talk about whether the iPhone 5 screen needs to be bigger
- Stephen Pickering
We have beautiful walled gardens in my gated community.
- Ankush Narula
Facebook buys Karma app http://bit.ly/J3iIfc
- Nir Ben Yona
ask Steve to show you his glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook should buy Kickstarter
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a fenced garden, you can see it over my shoulder. It is next to a park though.
- Kevin Marks
The big story is the ridiculous multiples on Facebook stock and the bad timing of the IPO.
- Steven E. Streight
Facebook can't buy anything. It needs money for privacy lawsuits. Like that $15 billion one.
- Steven E. Streight
you could do something called Encouragement? ... encourage the person having the bad day of course.
- Orville Chomer
how many privacy lawyers FB has?
- cliveb
Facebook Hockey Stick curve: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
couldn't agree more with Robert about the birthday crap on Facebook
- Brad Acker
Salesforce crappy financials?
- Jerry Schuman
soundboard is interesting..thanks Robert
- Jim Posner
just kidding... bad quarter for a lot of companies
- Jerry Schuman
No problem here
- Francine Hardaway
hmm.. Karma app not in my appstore... probably US only, or limited countries, unsure...
- Jose P Isern Comas
Mining privacy's the new black gold. And why EnSW is not FB.
- cliveb
Facebook just bought another company, Karma
- Kashif Khan
sorry I didnt catch that Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think Gabe is balancing his laptop on his knees
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he's literal like that
- Kevin Marks
I find Techmeme stories on Flipboard! ;) Wonder how much traffic they get from them.
- Alex de Soto
Does TM link to Facebook stuff?
- Jim Posner
I saw an app that's kind of like 'encouragement' this week: http://taptank.com
- Kevin Marks
The Bing + Facebook connection will also be interesting to watch. I've been trying the new social search on Bing this week.
- Alex de Soto
And where do people on facebook get their autism links from?
- Todd Hoff
from autism blogs
- Kevin Marks
I'm starting to want a social network that's just a Social Network and a Search Engine that's just a Search Engine
- Stephen Pickering
Alex, has that rolled out to everyone? I didn't see it yesterday
- Francine Hardaway
Francine: By invitation only so far.
- Alex de Soto
Stephen: It would be good to turn on social search only when you want it. When searching for a movie, restaurant, etc.
- Alex de Soto
The Autism List: https://www.facebook.com/lists...
- Robert Scoble
Find Interest Lists here: https://www.facebook.com/addlist...
- Robert Scoble
I would like to see a noise filter on memeorandum...how many of the stories are truly important vs. noise ala Huffington Post...give us filters and upvotes Gabe.
- Jim Posner
and others review the output and tend the configuration tables used by the algorithm
- Jerome Hughes
reddit works well with filters
- Da
http://thinkingautismguide.blogspot.com/ is a good autism blog
- Kevin Marks
they can zero out pagerank, yes
- Kevin Marks
I like Kevin's bird noise drifting into Gabe's space. Kinda funny cause it's Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
YouTube now promotes videos from my G+ social network first and it has been a disaster. Rarely do I see anything interesting anymore. Content based ranking works best for a lot of things.
- Todd Hoff
the crows were triggering Skype silencing people. the doves are OK
- Kevin Marks
Hacker News is doing a great job...like to see more of that model on Techmeme.
- Jim Posner
Will the Editorial Bots (algorithms, filters, etc.) triumph over people?
- Alex de Soto
Missing: Google search and separate Google+ search. 2 buttons!
- cliveb
Corona needs to be served icey cold with a lime. Just saying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://pinterest.com/pin... was what I saw on wednesday
- Kevin Marks
We need a way to use parts of someone else's profile. I'd love to save the time it took Robert to like thousands of brands, yet be selective.
- Murray Macdonald
Does Techmeme have push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it pushes to twitter
- Kevin Marks
It pushes to Flipboard too and Facebook even!
- Robert Scoble
oooo that's better Gabe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
de-dupe engineers hotter than hadoop engineers...
- cliveb
ice clinking in glass sound effect?
- Kevin Marks
Steve is drinking from his John Lennon glass
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sadly not gonna happen with all the silos
- Da
Beats the McDonald's cup Tina!
- Alex de Soto
John Lennon's glasses wouldn't hold much
- Kevin Marks
true Alex. Had time to make the iced tea today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Video with Karma's founder: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Robert Scoble
size of the needle?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
market is ripe for a social/data stream processor that automates what Scoble does manually.
- Jim Posner
that was deeeeep
- Orville Chomer
hadoop social/data stream de-dup and push.
- cliveb
I thought DataSift had potential but that didn't work out.
- Jim Posner
lots of ppl waiting on new macbook pros
- cliveb
Airplay doesn't always work. I updated my Apple TV yesterday and now all I get is the audio of the show on my TV
- Francine Hardaway
does Apple TV work outside the US? SIRI doesn't "really" work outside the US
- Murray Macdonald
That was a comment from a "normal" person
- Francine Hardaway
wow the Gang is so subdued on this IPO Friday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DataSift is more targeted at selecting out particular signals than taking the whole feed and chunking it into signals.
- Todd Hoff
yes
- Kevin Marks
When is Netflix going to stream 3D?..just got a 3D tv and looking for more content from services I am paying for already.
- Jim Posner
if "unlimited data" means way more people use your network than you thought would use it and you have to spend Billions to try to make the network be able to keep up, then unlimited data can be a bad decision. Its not a bad decision for users... but it cost lots of bucks to make the network be able to handle the load.
- Orville Chomer
DataSift mines only Twitter stream?
- cliveb
the risk of demo failure prevents them from demo'ing airplay at the keynote
- Ankush Narula
I'm not sure about now, but they started with Twitter but have the ability to plug in other streams.
- Todd Hoff
but it unlimited made me so loyal to VZW, now may go to T-mobile
- Da
DataSift is twitter only...cool idea but haven't seen much compelling out of the beta.
- Jim Posner
Will iPhone 5 have to have a bigger screen?
- Stephen Pickering
the HTC One X screen is awesome
- Da
AppleTV sales are fairly viral - I haven't seen an advert for AppleTV yet
- Ankush Narula
i like Apple TV, I have two of them
- Orville Chomer
I haven't got the 1080p appletv yet
- Kevin Marks
I also have a mac mini plugged into the TV
- Kevin Marks
I have the 720 in the bedroom and the 1080 in the living room - they're great - watching GG in living room right now via AirParrot
- Ankush Narula
Wow, I advised Nanosys years ago:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Sony plug...HX929 awesome tv.
- Jim Posner
Is there an ongoing revenue stream for AppleTV beyond the initial device sale?
- Murray Macdonald
1-click iTunes sales/rentals and maybe Netflix and MLB subscription revenue
- Ankush Narula
I have two iPads and a Mac Mini, Kevin, and Apple Tv, and I use all of them with my TVs from time to time
- Francine Hardaway
can't play Modern Warfare on it though, so it's XBox for us
- Da
So I can meaningfully use the device without a subscription, as long as I don't buy premium content?
- Murray Macdonald
Kevin, will privacy be back-fitted into enterprise sharing...#pii
- cliveb
Murray - yes - you can access content in iTunes on your desktop/laptop - and you can login to existing Netflix/MLB/NBA/NHL accounts and stream that content - and of course use AirPlay from iOS devices
- Ankush Narula
Facebook to acquire the Gillmor Gang.
- Nir Ben Yona
Is the show live only or is it archived anywhere?
- Jim Posner
also youtube, vimeo some others (not amazon)
- Kevin Marks
Wow Steve really using his hands today and I didn't even prompt that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jim, it's archived on Techcrunch.
- Nir Ben Yona
thx
- Jim Posner
also on youtube
- Kevin Marks
and iTunes
- Ankush Narula
Clear that Judge Alsup has had quite enough of David Boies.
- Denise Howell
only seeing 2010 shows on techcrunch
- Jim Posner
anyone have a youtube link?
- Jim Posner
Nir :-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina, just a hunch :)
- Nir Ben Yona
judge alsup learned to write enough java code to grip the case..!
- cliveb
I agree with Scoble. We need to take in relevant info while idle. Only part of my time is infront of a screen. I want contextually relevant data while I drive my car and brush my teeth.
- Murray Macdonald
google glasses
- Da
Carburetors vs Porches: saving time vs spending time.
- cliveb
Murray... would that require push?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I shouldn't need a new device, just a new app
- Murray Macdonald
iPad are taking off in the enterprise...but device tracking is still an issue from an IT security perspective.
- Jim Posner
Perhaps... It depends on my device and desired content. I should be able to offline content.
- Murray Macdonald
Android apps can run all the time. Let's not be held back by apple limitations.
- Murray Macdonald
Tina, Is there an archive of recent shows?
- Jim Posner
until the OS randomly kills them, Murray
- Kevin Marks
they can get remote notifications too though, even if not running
- Kevin Marks
Sometime Highlight comes up and announces that Steve Gillmor is nearby. but mostly it doesn't... even when he is. Not sure how that works
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IT tracks laptops
- Da
so, why did FB buy Glancee instead of Highlight
- Da
glancee had more tech and was probably cheaper
- Kevin Marks
Sorry I missed this today
- Keith Teare
Highlight not in same league as Instagram?
- Da
being boring is exciting enterprise
- cliveb
Thanks guys... Always worth watching.
- Murray Macdonald
Great show.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Keith
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook bought Glancee because it lost. Translation it was a deal to hire the engineers.
- Robert Scoble
so Glancee had better engineers
- Da
Hi Tina
- Keith Teare
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Just joined the borg, waiting for the blue pill.
- Robert Scoble
Can you hear me, Tina?
- John Taschek
we can hear you, but you can't hear us, John
- Kevin Marks
Rock on!
- Nir Ben Yona
8 rooting in video
- Kevin Marks
seems like to me, folks in G+ are engaging more than other social networks, more quality discussions
- Da
G+ is good for talking to programmers
- Kevin Marks
I saw John in NY 2 weeks ago, that was nice
- Kevin Marks
Da - interesting that you say that. I think i need to spend some more time on Google +
- Tina Chase Gillmor
just joined in - what is this that Robert is showing?
- Ankush Narula
maybe because it's the early adopters in G+, it's the novelty
- Da
"dickheadery" ?? Is there a webster's definition on this ??
- studentforce
silos, baby
- Da
jt
- Steve Gillmor
auth =/= authenticity
- cliveb
first I hear about "warmth"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mind meld
- Jerome Hughes
Arkush: I am showing Bing, Twitter, and Google+.
- Robert Scoble
spending advertiser's patronage
- Jerome Hughes
advertisers'
- Jerome Hughes
What was that sidebar on the search page? was that Bing?
- Ankush Narula
I see John T has added some stuff to his bookshelf
- Tina Chase Gillmor
when it flocks
- Jerome Hughes
Yes, that was Bing.
- Robert Scoble
i think John is in a different location
- studentforce
no faces in #FF comments, but the conversation persists
- Jerome Hughes
hi everyone, just joined, looks like a lively discussion about warmth
- Charlie Isaacs
its still two dimensional and will NEVER replace a face to face meeting
- studentforce
Scoble-Poll®
- Ankush Narula
hey it looks like Robert lost some weight, looking svelte
- Charlie Isaacs
"the lightbulb gets brighter before it burns out ... "
- JohnBorthwick
instead it will lead to face to face later, as discovery leads to engagement
- Jerome Hughes
Charlie: yeah, I'm down a bit from my high. Just got a Fitbit scale so you can see my weight.
- Robert Scoble
I can't see the stream anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Ruh Roh
- Kevin Marks
I can hear it just fine, so will fake it as long as you can see me.
- Robert Scoble
managers
- Jerome Hughes
robert we see stream here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
applause signs, laugh tracks, rim-shots - these are all cues for the braindead
- Ankush Narula
you should too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm not getting one of those Fitbit things, still recovering from my Wii telling me I’m overweight and that I have the agility, balance and body of a 90 year-old
- Charlie Isaacs
will drop you and call u back robert
- Steve Gillmor
http://www.radiolab.org/2008... on laughter
- Kevin Marks
Woody Allen & Tony Roberts in Annie Hall
- Jerome Hughes
laughing is also a way to express nervousness and uncertainty
- Ankush Narula
Steve: I Still can't see the stream.
- Robert Scoble
lol
- JohnBorthwick
laughter isn't a singular behavior. it's nuanced
- Tom Guarriello
True. But some people laugh when they feel embarrassed.
- Nir Ben Yona
nice straightfaced lol, John
- Jerome Hughes
I prefer :-D over LOL
- Ankush Narula
Thanks, that fixed that!
- Robert Scoble
Ok... Kevin is drinking beer, John T. probably iced tea but could be spiked and robert has dropped off to do a shot. I don't know what John B. is drinking today. Any guesses?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My daughter loves minecraft too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
San Pellegrino.
- Nir Ben Yona
could be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
JohnB is drinking Makers Mark and Coke ;-)
- Ankush Narula
beer and tea, I have both
- Kevin Marks
Ankush ... good one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
good enough is good enough
- Jerome Hughes
this is true
- Tina Chase Gillmor
especially as they're misspelled
- Kevin Marks
packets and buffers and bandwidth oh my
- Ankush Narula
multi-tasking's a myth. It's sequential
- Tom Guarriello
Women can multi task, seems harder for men
- Stephen Pickering
women multitask every moment of the day ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I was reading Ondaatje's "The Conversations" with Walter Murch
- Kevin Marks
and he said that he couldn't watch films on TV, but he could on laptops with headphones, as that was immersive
- Kevin Marks
hunter/gatherer evolution
- studentforce
hunter will always be able to muti task way better than a farmer/gatherer
- studentforce
I'm multi-tasking right now. Listening/watching the show, downloading new Adobe apps and typing into FF.
- Alex de Soto
All with a cat on my shoulders!
- Alex de Soto
push notifications serialize realtime so you don't have to multitask - unfortunately ios notification center becoming another inbox for me
- Ankush Narula
Tina herds kittens while multi-tasking
- Charlie Isaacs
many new apps are creating alternative inboxes
- Kevin Marks
Push notifications do remind me of email. Constantly in my face at the office.
- Alex de Soto
"Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens" --Iggy Pop
- Jerome Hughes
i agree that SOME people have issues multi tasking while others cannot function if they are NOT multi tasking
- studentforce
Charlie this is less true these days as I have taken to locking the cats out of the studio because they become so demanding when we're doing the show. On the other hand, I'm always herding cats on the GIllmor gang ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I believe students and people born after 1995 naturally multi task as they have known nothing else
- studentforce
it's not age related
- Kevin Marks
i wish i could do two things at once on the ipad. i get so annoyed when i'm watchin a vid on a web page, and it stops when i go to a new tab to look something up
- Stephen M
I like the sunlight streaming into Borthwick's space
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I was born in 1966 and I've been doing this since I was able to
- Kevin Marks
so I guess what I'm saying is that the ability to multi task is probably a combination of physical (dopamine based whatever) and evolutionary
- studentforce
some people have a hard time accepting multiple capabilities in one person that they have not experienced in one person before
- Jerome Hughes
push notification and the beginner’s mind http://techcrunch.com/2012...
- cliveb
Steve: did I freeze?
- Robert Scoble
the street has its own uses for...
- Jerome Hughes
rapid task switching != multi-tasking
- Ankush Narula
there is actually a test for this: http://www.multitaskingtests.com/about...
- studentforce
lost Robert again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Try calling me again.
- Robert Scoble
if it's important enough, it'll keep yur attention
- Da
See, I don't people aren't actually able to multi-task..
- Kevin Costain
i prefer SMS because i can say i responded and the network "ate" the message, when i really just "zoned" out for a few minutes LOL
- Stephen M
is it a zero sum situation ?? The more multitasking the less attention one can pay to a specific subject?
- studentforce
can't do that with a phone call.. have to give undivided attention.
- Stephen M
pattern recognition accounting handled in background by subconcious
- Jerome Hughes
some people can multi-task walking and chew gum at same time
- Da
so have we developed different "modes" now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
could you clarify please.
- Stephen M
@da any "task" that is run on auto-pilot can't count as part of a "multi" task. We are not consciously thinking about walking - that is an automatic process, just as much as seeing where you're walking while you chew that gum.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Have tweets made us more succinct? More to the point? Does Facebook remind us to take photographs? Does Pinterest organize our minds in a visual way?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Intel's 'golden age’ of hybrid PCs more multi-tasking or more push-notification.
- cliveb
Is social media training us?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
quite - that's what I was saying- your brain is naturally multi-taking, and with practice things become background tasks, and the single narrative is the story a part of our brain curates for us afterwards
- Kevin Marks
or are we training it?
- Jerome Hughes
@da - but - try clearly reading two books at once while walking.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Tweets have caused me to have bad grammar/spelling
- Stephen M
@Kevin - very interesting idea..
- Kevin Costain
I still use Flickr which causes me to take lots of photos
- Stephen M
@Stephen - Computers have made my natural chicken scratch penmanship much worse..
- Kevin Costain
Finally got to enough screens to comment on Steve's mention of track today. Out me in hysterics on Devils Slide
- Francine Hardaway
same here! it started in the AIM/MSN messenger era..
- Stephen M
Did I just hear John T. talk about a coke habit?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://pinterest.com/pin... was the Ad people
- Kevin Marks
haha
- Stephen M
I'm watching this show on my TV via AirParrot
- Ankush Narula
BTW, next version of OS X will include this functionality
- Ankush Narula
very interesting
- Stephen M
Robert and Tina-Steve! Miramar on Saturday at 530 for a cocktail? I will be meeting Half Moon Bay geeks.
- Francine Hardaway
I'm watching this show on my TV via Roku :)
- Stephen M
I watched most of it on my IPhone
- Francine Hardaway
does Robert have ADHD? ;)
- Stephen M
Robert doesn't need push notifications - he has everything visible on the 25 screens around him at all times!
- Ankush Narula
Yet, but when Robert's mobile, not at home, then push becomes important
- Stephen Pickering
does my neighbour have leftover cinco de mayo fireworks
- Kevin Marks
True - particularly so we all know if he's walking vs running vs at Gold Club
- Ankush Narula
resistance is feudal?
- Kevin Marks
push a button, get a pellet
- Jerome Hughes
And with the Google Glasses Robert will see a recursive universe of information.
- Alex de Soto
I'm always that person who has to go behind something to plug something in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert have you done video chat via the Kinect? i set my parents and siblings up and they love it
- Stephen M
rummaging through the dust bunnies
- Kevin Marks
So push notifications will be the next intrusive media.
- Alex de Soto
I think there are many more ways for people to "tap you on the shoulder" now... and from anywhere
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Feed my dragon? That's a euphemism for sure
- Ankush Narula
Push notifications drive me nuts.
- Francine Hardaway
my grandmother got the biggest smile when i showed her how to say "xbox chat" or whatever it is..and they got to see their grand child on the big screen..
- Stephen M
Grandkids are always the killer app
- Kevin Marks
Fighting some idiot motorcycle without a muffler. Please be quiet!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
$99 xbox is the best thing for grand parents.
- Stephen M
He's probably right lol
- Francine Hardaway
pain points are opportunities
- Jerome Hughes
rimshot
- Ankush Narula
This is a warm conversation
- Francine Hardaway
Show Title!
- Stephen M
it's very warm here in San Jose
- Kevin Marks
The sun is shining in NYC - it's warm here as well
- Ankush Narula
Woudln't it be a different show without Skype as well?
- Stephen M
"Luke Warm" might be a good show title
- Ankush Narula
Great show.
- Francine Hardaway
anyone know if Facebook will add group video to their Video chat service?
- Stephen M
yes def!
- Stephen M
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Gillmor Gang - John Borthwick, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, Robert Scoble, and Steve Gillmor. Recording live today at 1pm PST.
- Steve Gillmor
Just joined the borg, waiting for the blue pill.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed Blog: Ben Darnell joins FriendFeed: Ben++! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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Welcome, Ben!
- Kevin Fox
Right on! Congrats, Ben.
- Micah
Congrats Ben! Also, congrats to FF you are lucky to have him!
- Jason Shellen
Data storage and scalability rock. :)
- Louis Gray
Ben's feed is here: http://friendfeed.com/bdarnell
- Bret Taylor
Congrats, Ben! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah Ben!!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
so i finally get my answer to this :) http://friendfeed.com/chris...
- MG Siegler
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Woohoo! Another Googler :)
- Tim Hoeck
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
you're building a friendfeed army there :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congrats
- Özkan Altuner
Nice, any former Google Reader-er is a friend of mine.
- Mike Reynolds
gratz Ben!
- timepilot
Welcome Bret!
- Michael_techie
So, Facebook...?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Poor Ben Darnell. The last to enter are always the first to leave in mergers.
- beersage
Either that or he scored big time with some accelerated vesting.
- Ken Sheppardson
Hiring new staff while in secret acquisition talks, not exactly classy guys. I hope Ben knew what he was getting into
- Glenn Slaven
Why on earth does he use the Duck Hunt theme?
- Vezquex
I don't know.. but it is awesome! :)
- Tim Hoeck
Wow, looks like somebody bumped this!
- Kevin Fox
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
OH HAI!
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
Nereye katiliyo pic! Sattiniz gittiniz dukkani!
- Ali Kerim
Here, let me save future spammers some time: Hello my name is ____ and I am an attractive young ____ _____ and I would like to contact with you so that together you and I can ___ with ____ while _____ in a highly ____ manner. Please to be responding as soon as is practical. Without your help, the _____ in U.S. dollars will go unclaimed, and the herbal ______ remedy will wither and die. Yours in all urgent seriousness, _____.
- Stephen Mack
:D, Stephen!
- Anne Bouey
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I'm waiting for the famous call? I wonder what we'll talk about today? Facebook IPO? Yahoo CEO? Samsung Galaxy SIII?
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert - do you have the Galaxy? What's the service behind it?
- John Taschek
Nope, not yet. It was just announced and they didn't give me a test version yet.
- Robert Scoble
http://www.techmeme.com/120503... has the Galaxy SIII info.
- Robert Scoble
Seems over-speced and over-sized. Makes the Dell Streak seem way ahead of its time.
- John Taschek
You know my Cherry Coke Zero is being zeroed-out as I wait... :)
- John Taschek
over-specced? that's a thing?
- Kevin Marks
we're beating a couple of tech glitches back... but we're winning. Stand-by please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: we're standing by. :-)
- Robert Scoble
starting our link-up calls. sorry for delay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what did I miss last week?
- Kevin Marks
I missed last week too.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah - like this:...
more...
- John Taschek
Kevin...we saved the world last week. other than that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I hear the coffee shops are being closed to tourists in Amsterdam.
- John Taschek
Howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
robert Scoble... you're being paged
- Tina Chase Gillmor
page fault
- Charlie Isaacs
hi everyone
- Charlie Isaacs
i hear lovely tina
- Charlie Isaacs
John doing his Steve Martin imitation
- Charlie Isaacs
cue John on banjo
- Jerome Hughes
Be on air shortly.
- Robert Scoble
I also have a dinosaur.
- John Taschek
oooooh he's a rambling man
- Charlie Isaacs
little tech annoyances today folks. but all will be well with the world momentarily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
testing testing 123
- cliveb
I don't see anything!
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Aaaah
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
We are on now.
- Robert Scoble
I don't hear an echo and I am the customer:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
It's a list
- Stephen Pickering
hearing FB's 30+ demographic sick to the teeth of spam app invites (regardless permissions)
- cliveb
You can have friends or acquaintances on FB
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert confirms...wake up Zuck
- cliveb
oh rats I forgot Robert's Birthday again
- Charlie Isaacs
deletes Facebook account
- Jerome Hughes
Hey Robert, what are your thoughts on the Jack Welch blowup today? - http://www.facebook.com/XXinTec... Is this something your likely to comment on in this afternoons chat? #gillmorgang
- dean collins
RIP - like!
- cliveb
except the dislike button
- Jerome Hughes
Dean: funny, Sheryl Sandberg said much the same thing, except she framed it in nicer language.
- Robert Scoble
Dean: on the other hand, look at Rashmi, who just sold SlideShare. She just had twins. That's what we should focus on.
- Robert Scoble
UK patent act, interesting
- cliveb
This intention thing seems to play right into Zaarly, right Robert?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: yes!
- Robert Scoble
Amazon ate the retail world whole
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Doc talking on our SocialMRP startup - yay.
- cliveb
retailers need to push value to the customer during the scan process
- Charlie Isaacs
B&N deal was MS way to get into eTextbooks in a big way. That is their primary reason for the purchase
- studentforce
free wifi in mcdonalds :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Content and Conduit should be separate, not by law, but from a business perspective, but it seems all these companies are trying to be both
- Stephen Pickering
Social overload!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yeah, and if Robert's screens are filled up, then that's really a lot of stuff
- Dale Lature
howmany screens was that? 6?
- Dale Lature
he's going to break?
- Kevin Marks
I feel like Robert. Can't fit another thing and can't use another thing
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert Scoble is at the breaking point! That's a quote
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Saturation overload matches Kevin's consolidation and M&A happenings
- cliveb
eh?
- Kevin Marks
The problem is that these hits like OMGPop don't seem to last
- Stephen Pickering
Phoenix?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Right. Been saying this for six months. Incubator bubble
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
I wish tech startups focused on innovation in health care, agriculture and education but I guess there's no money in it.
- Alex de Soto
everyone one's a tech user, everyone's addicted, everyone is "invested", and everyone would like a piece of the pie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They aren't starting companies. They are developing products
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
so does that mean the real opportunities lie in the ENTERPRISE ???
- studentforce
Alex, my guess is because those industries are so regulated and protected that fresh capital doesn't want to enter
- Stephen Pickering
Taschek and Scoble both product placed drinks
- Dale Lature
Skype Sulk?
- Kevin Marks
@Alex we working on agriculture from top down after failing to get traction bottom up
- cliveb
Right Steve. My Klout score has been dropping because I am engaged elsewhere for a while
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Yes steve
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Stephen: Where there's a will, there's a way. Unfortunately these are less glamorous to work in.
- Alex de Soto
top down, Charlie in McD's, case in point.
- cliveb
Francine, I find the more I engage the more my Klout score decreases. I say stop talking or ignore Klout ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Klout says I'm influential about 'vegetable'
- Kevin Marks
I need Steve to use his Beatles glasses. If only we were more orgnized
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whatever
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The register as an organ donor on Facebook was interesting. Anybody do that?
- Alex de Soto
klouchebag scores me a 75 "mostly noise"
- Jerome Hughes
@studentforce - yes. using 'web 2.0' biz dev architecture
- cliveb
Klout says I'm influential about Scobleizer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I have some funky 60 glasses on my effects ..
- John Taschek
can it tell him sitting from it being left on the table?
- Kevin Marks
the PlaceMe app sends me Push Notifications like "You're Boring" "You're a Nerd" "Get a Life"
- Charlie Isaacs
Tina, that's the first accurate thing I've heard about Klout lately.
- Robert Scoble
I turned off Placeme push notifications. Battery hog
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
On APIs and Copyright (unintended consequences) http://redmonk.com/sogrady...
- cliveb
Francine good to know. Didn't try it. Now don't have to
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Placeme inside a strip club
- Stephen Pickering
So in other words nothing's changed
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: in the future you will share even that. Why? Because the system will bring you better strip club experiences if you are really into that.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: hahahahahhahaah
- Stephen Pickering
WE can have a Boston API party !
- studentforce
Privacy is NOT the big issue of this generation. Addiction is. Stephen showed exactly why. Who cares if I want to go to a strip club? But now that you are bringing me to the best ones I'm totally addicted to the system.
- Robert Scoble
Such irony, you can buy the King James Bible on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/The-Bib...
- Charlie Isaacs
We're already seeing the first precursors to the problems we're going to have with addiction (texting while driving, marriages breaking up, etc).
- Robert Scoble
ONLY on Amazon ??
- studentforce
Someone patent the acai berry spam.
- cliveb
strip clubs while driving?
- Kevin Marks
Fine let's talk about strip clubs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Who owns the strip club patents?
- Alex de Soto
me too
- studentforce
I received four of them; three from salesforce employees
- studentforce
PC and Microsoft Windows 8 are IRRELEVANT that is why. Who cares if a PC is corrupt. Noone uses them anymore. Post PC world
- studentforce
You clicked on the url - THIS IS A PHISHING PAGE
- dean collins
See, when I get one of those crazy DMs I don't know whether to block them because I know it may be a virus
- Stephen Pickering
its not a virus at all its a phishing page
- dean collins
Steve granted tweet permissions to a rogue twitter app.
- cliveb
get 5-10 of those "Someone's saying… " weekly from among 7k followers
- Jerome Hughes
it IS NOT A HACK - YOU CLICKED ON A LINK that WAS NOT TWITTER
- dean collins
Kevin is indeed melting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HE EXPLICITLY FILLED IT IN GUARENTEED - i get these all the time because i run 20+ twitter accounts
- dean collins
Could be a hack of a service with O Auth-connection to your Twitter-account?
- Johannes Siemers
sorry, I had to go away for a minute...I assume you are talking about oauth hacks? there are sites w/info on these types of exploits: http://oauth.net/advisor...
- Charlie Isaacs
here's the explanation I send out to those who send me those that haven't yet said "I was hacked and it's now resolved." …
- Jerome Hughes
got a spammy DM, in case not yet resolved… password change or app access revoke info… http://ow.ly/6vqLd
- Jerome Hughes
oh great, now I am being called typhoid charlie, thanks for that
- Charlie Isaacs
failed twitter app startups sell their permissions to tweet to ad-networks (steve got bit)
- cliveb
Knowledge is power, with great power comes responsibility .. Charlie. :)
- John Taschek
Anyone seen Mike Arrington's latest title.. http://www.linkedin.com/in... :)
- Jose P Isern Comas
a trillion trillion quantum fluxes, one will create a Universe
- Stephen Pickering
eg check out this url as an example of what the page looks like - http://twititre.com/ilogin... - lol dont fill in your username or password otherwise your account will start sending out these fake DM's continuing the circle.
- dean collins
http://marketingland.com/the-tec... Saw this today .... funny! New investment Metric System ... gram (as in Instagram)
- studentforce
Arrington always irreverent.
- cliveb
The bubble is not because of the industry but rather because there is so much liquidity sloshing around due to Central Bank stimulation
- Stephen Pickering
sounds like the financial analysts who say salesforce is way too high on a p/e basis. They don't understand the subscription economy
- studentforce
advertising is a bubble
- Kevin Marks
gee, thanks John, I guess :)
- Charlie Isaacs
But as Oligvy says, the first time you see an ad, the 10th time you see it, you're writing a check
- Stephen Pickering
Advertising revenue surpassed financial markets in NYC this year
- studentforce
I mean the first time you see it you curse, the tenth time, your buying it
- Stephen Pickering
thank god for advertising .... paying for my son's apartment in NYC !!!!!!
- studentforce
lol sorry for the delayed response but here is the screenshot of the twitter phishing page - http://screencast.com/t...
- dean collins
Andreesen: there is a bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Steve had his voice muted. he didn't know it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andreesen - There is NO bubble: http://thoughtbasket.com/2012...
- John Taschek
Sorry Andreessen (my typo)...
- John Taschek
But since ads suck on Smartphones, the Facebook app on Smartphones also sucks
- Stephen Pickering
What is Doc's vision of Advertising or Marketing?
- Stephen Pickering
shows that word of mouth is way more powerful than ANY advertising campaign.
- studentforce
becomes you
- studentforce
The Kids are Allright
- Stephen Pickering
You don't always know what you "want." But if you catch some ads, you get what you need.
- Alex de Soto
One thing I've noticed, especially being an American, what a relief to watch TV shows on Netflix ad free! never in my life have I had this wonderful experience!
- Stephen Pickering
that's the reason I hate BBc America
- Kevin Marks
winchester this
- Jerome Hughes
Isn't the difference kids dont care about privacy because they use it to discover trust. (thus avoid bad actors)
- cliveb
"you spend hours downloading apps..." - how tone deaf can a company be?
- Jerome Hughes
Doc: " Don't lie to your wrist, Robert"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it can alert Scoble's wife when he's excited in a strip club?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: yes. And my wife will have to deal with it.
- Robert Scoble
or perhaps more importantly, when he's not
- Jerome Hughes
So when everything becomes transparent, then the Super Ego won't have so much power over us in enforcing complexes
- Stephen Pickering
he's being censored by the excitement detector
- Kevin Marks
Skype always craps out at an hour
- Stephen Pickering
Church, Strip Clubs,
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble's wife: oh, no worries, Robert is riding on the Startup Bus again.
- Charlie Isaacs
I met a chap who was starting a Church of Video Games
- Kevin Marks
So the subjective adventure overrides the objective ego conflict
- Stephen Pickering
"Batin'!" in Idiocracy
- Jerome Hughes
Charlie: maybe my wife likes strip clubs too and that's why she married me.
- Robert Scoble
Bad Sinatra
- Jerome Hughes
That was a hilarious conversation:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Robert, I'm not going there, literally and figuratively
- Charlie Isaacs
The purpose of life is to experience a subjective adventure rather than an objective achievement.
- Stephen Pickering
Bad Sinatra indeed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
rereading Neuromancer
- Jerome Hughes
if anyone want a Bad Sinatra pin,,, let me know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm totally addicted to this stuff, I'm going to try a la Kevin to spend a day without any of this stuff
- Stephen Pickering
App for acai berry diet in strip clubs coming soon!
- cliveb
Facebook is the one brand that may make Apple nervous? Or have the power to?
- Stephen Pickering
if you can't see a holodeck, how do you know you aren't in one?
- Kevin Marks
There is a serious physics theory that life is indeed a hologram already
- Stephen Pickering
so I wanna hear your thoughts on this - is it good or bad for society?
- studentforce
Good if we control it instead of it controlling us, in other words improving our lives, not making us slaves
- Stephen Pickering
great chat and Gillmor Gang today, really fun, got to run... thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
but isn't the purpose of all this tech to 'improve' our lives? Is this a case of the road to hell and good intentions ??
- studentforce
The weird freaky line. Your off phone still broadcasts intent.
- cliveb
reminded of need for the less fortunate to learn to dictate, now that they can have virtual butlers
- Jerome Hughes
I have an ad from SAP in facebook #targetingfail
- Kevin Marks
Well, it's like Star Wars, are we going to control the system or be slaves to it? That's the jist of star wars
- Stephen Pickering
and why do we have to expend the energy to 'CONTROL'
- studentforce
Yeah, I chose the wrong word, control isn't the right conotation
- Stephen Pickering
Doc's book http://www.amazon.com/The-Int...
- John Taschek
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
thanks everyone! Fun show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chat room was on fire! (cool)
- cliveb
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Now standing by. What will we talk about? Instagram is so last week! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sorry, I thought I had Skype running. Just starting that up.
- Robert Scoble
Let's talk about Mobile and the end of Web 2.0 :-) - the big picture of Instagram.
- Keith Teare
calling everyone...sorry for delay
- Tina Chase Gillmor
john T we cant hear you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hello...
- Aron Michalski
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
lets talk about the web and the death of mobile apps
- Kevin Marks
I just froze up.
- Robert Scoble
they froze up
- Kevin Marks
Oh, OK.
- Robert Scoble
Frozen
- John Taschek
Who else is on Keith?
- John Taschek
I think Gillmor HQ just went down
- Kevin Marks
i'm down here
- Keith Teare
we think we have a comcast problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Great.
- Robert Scoble
Tricaster did a North Korean rocket
- cliveb
we totally died but are back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Back on!
- Robert Scoble
WOW we never had that happen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
First time's a charm.
- Nir Ben Yona
I don't see video, Tina
- John Taschek
trying to fix John
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks!
- John Taschek
had to reboot Chrome to get audio...
- Aron Michalski
Instagram has valuable data for Facebook and the fact it's actually a mobile app. Something that Facebook isn't that good about right now. I mean, when was the last time you guys uploaded a photo to Facebook via FB app.
- Nir Ben Yona
http://techcrunch.com/2012... is Keith's post
- Kevin Marks
Is the Browser a Transitional Technology? - http://www.wirfs-brock.com/allen...
- cliveb
soo what have i missed?
- Stephen M
No, cliveb. (all headlines that ask a question can be answered 'No')
- Kevin Marks
begat, begat, begat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I can't figure out what I clicked "like" on because I keep getting funeral home and cremation services ads on facebook.. kinda macabre
- Stephen M
the WSJ hackathon was all about this: http://www.hackerleague.org/hackath...
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, (only so much attention time) native browser usage is fading as mobile apps use is surging
- cliveb
Pinterest seems to be losing users now. Flash in the pan?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
I can't post anymore cuz I am watching on my MOBILE DEVICE!
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Apple seems to be exiting a bubble. the Stock tanked today, and over the last week...wow
- Stephen M
Phil Schiller jumped the shark?
- Kevin Marks
A bigger picture, the browser fades having incubated high performance JavaScript, which is shifting to the server. The next Canonical platform
- cliveb
Google AdWords does not give searchers the control to interact with ads that Facebook provides. Facebook is also improving advertisers' tools every day. On mobile: there's a big difference between phones and tablets. Me thinks that tablets will allow much better monetization than phones. One example: Buying image rights right from 500px.
- Alex de Soto
Javascript that works on both client and server is a model, yes cliveb
- Kevin Marks
And this may be the new paradigm,. But I have to be able to interact, not just consume
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
anybody notice how cluttered the Google search page is? the first actual search result is like half way down the page now
- Stephen M
my intent is not being satisfied by google either ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The market share for mobile web: http://netmarketshare.com/ - Google is not a small player, but it is boosted by search
- John Taschek
To monetize mobile apps do collections of apps (linked like stories or enterprise apps) emerge?
- cliveb
a bing search for New York hotel is pretty excellent on desktop and mobile
- Stephen M
Most of my friends use Twitter for that. Like: Best restaurants or hotels in south Italy...etc. Friend's recommendation is more valuable than search.
- Nir Ben Yona
And if Siri would connect with apps, things would be even better.
- Alex de Soto
totally weird audio problems today. what's up?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
So we could tell Siri: Use X app for my hotel searches from now on.
- Alex de Soto
Asking twitter is a good point, Nir Ben Yona
- Kevin Marks
bandwidth probs today i think
- Tina Chase Gillmor
plane, sorry
- Kevin Marks
we need an app to control overhead planes!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a towel over my mic so reaching the mute button is tough
- Kevin Marks
Flurry has the mobile app data http://www.flurry.com/
- cliveb
Whoo ha.. hello everyone..
- Kevin Costain
just kidding Kevin.... it's fine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I just got choked on my grandfathered AT&T plan:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Uhmm... talking about Client/Server? Isn't that old school now?
- Kevin Costain
Canonical JavaScript architecture, missing is collections of Apps and monetizing the interest relationships
- cliveb
Apple is certainly not skeptical about advertising (TV, billboards, etc.). These things must be done delicately, or you'll ruin the spell.
- Alex de Soto
I've been ad blind for a while but it's changing. I'm inclined to agree with Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
here's the ad I get on facebook: https://skitch.com/kevinma...
- Kevin Marks
I agree - Facebook has decreased my ad blindness - the relevancy of the ads has been increasing over time - particularly with usage
- Ankush Narula
pushing the knobs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Kevin - that's great :-)
- Ankush Narula
and turning the buttons, Tina?
- Kevin Marks
http://pestagram.com/tag... monetize that
- Kevin Marks
why isn't xbox kicking ass right now? they did not seize the moment
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Flurry shows games holding 44 pct of mobile app usage (> social apps) http://www.flurry.com/product...
- cliveb
xbox vs Apple battle for TVs?
- Kevin Marks
just realized I haven't played draw something for a week
- Kevin Marks
talking of site-specific browsers
- Kevin Marks
how are those revenues over at Twitter?
- Ankush Narula
Instagram started in the same office as Twitter in South Park...
- Kevin Marks
Everything has to start somewhere.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Ulyanov
- Kevin Marks
Ankush: who cares? They are doing just fine, thank you very much! I hear they are making enough to pay the salaries of its 600 employees. Certainly the investors aren't leaving in droves.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: wrong. Instagram started at Dogpatch labs at a single table.
- Robert Scoble
that's great - but at the end of the {insert time interval here} they need to monetize
- Ankush Narula
Getting the thinkers easier than pulling a Kobayashi Maru
- cliveb
heh
- Kevin Marks
you know location 1 on instagram is dogpatch labs? http://pestagram.com/loc/1
- Kevin Marks
Asteroid mining
- Kevin Marks
is Pestagram your node.js weekend hack?
- Ankush Narula
yes
- Kevin Marks
nicely done
- Ankush Narula
it's on github
- Kevin Marks
ooooh, me thinks that Mr. Keith is an expert stock trader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Instagram's 'find photos by location' APIs started working again?
- cliveb
not that I've noticed
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - I'm not a node dev - just wondering - is Jade independent of Express?
- Ankush Narula
yes
- Kevin Marks
er, I think so
- Kevin Marks
hmmm
- Kevin Marks
node makes it very easy to just require things and they appear
- Kevin Marks
geddy.js anyone using? http://geddyjs.org/
- cliveb
I want to be there just before real time
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why is no one inviting me to these Rackspace parties? hmmm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I only wrote one thing in node.js a year ago - a remote control app for Grooveshark desktop client
- Ankush Narula
didn't use express though
- Ankush Narula
trying https://api.instagram.com/v1... on http://instagr.am/develop... still gives a bogus error
- Kevin Marks
Steve has to recall all his fake name names
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin, nudge Steve for Node Gillmor Gang guest (said yes, hasn't yet)
- cliveb
Can we use Pestagram for Pinterest now ;)
- Kevin Marks
I always thought Foursquare should have an option to just check you in automatically
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: you need to follow me on Facebook. That's how I invite people (they are always public). But this was more for OpenStack geeks.
- Robert Scoble
Latitude has auto-checkin
- Kevin Marks
Tina: that's hard to do because of user expectation and battery life issues.
- Robert Scoble
Robert... I don't follow you on facebook? What?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cost Per Pinch?
- Kevin Marks
I don't follow robert on facebook, too noisy
- Kevin Marks
Yes Kevin because cost per touch just doesn't sound right.
- John Taschek
Kevin: that's cause you don't know how to use Facebook. I can follow noisy people. You can turrn down their flow.
- Robert Scoble
Cost per touch is measured in years -- sentenced in prison
- Ankush Narula
Tina: maybe you have me turned down or don't see my event recommendations.
- Robert Scoble
Tina: but I'll make sure you get to key parties. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Gmale and Siri - a Love Story - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- John Taschek
just subscribe to ScobleOmniMediaLLC.com
- Da
Apps fueled by Node...server/client
- cliveb
Cheers!
- Nir Ben Yona
another awesome G+ feature: G+ SMS opened to more countries http://googleindia.blogspot.in/2012...
- Da
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Hi, waiting for the famous call. What will the theme be today? Nokia? Google? Instagram? Real time ambient information? Firebase and Fluidinfo? The freaky line?
- Robert Scoble
hello there, also awaiting the call
- Kevin Marks
loading up the lineup now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, looking forward to it.
- Robert Scoble
The Filters were easy
- Stephen Pickering
It's emotional.
- Kevin Marks
Easy, fun, and it worked, plus attractive interface
- Stephen Pickering
http://www.wired.com/epicent... was a good piece
- Kevin Marks
I'd be interested in hearing Roberts thoughts on the Google Glasses...didn't he see them first hand?
- Jim Posner
Plus Facebook hasn't worked out how to monetize mobile, right?
- Stephen Pickering
and the masterly Paul Ford piece: http://nymag.com/daily...
- Kevin Marks
and a marxist analysis: http://interconnected.org/home...
- Kevin Marks
try this, robert: http://gramgrab.com/
- Kevin Marks
So how do they monetize and or facebook monetize its app?
- Stephen Pickering
problem with Dan's audio
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Makes Facebook relevant on iOS
- Jim Posner
again, moe? they already tried once
- Kevin Marks
FB monitize by increased traffic, eyeballs
- Da
Scoblizer's granular immutable integration play priceless
- cliveb
cool word
- Jim Posner
Plus with Instagram 90% of the app is content. Google+ needs to learn from that.
- Stephen Pickering
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... Phatic_expression
- Jim Posner
the G+ redesign makes the pictures bigger
- Kevin Marks
Robert- Will Google Glasses be a game changer?
- Jim Posner
jetpac
- Kevin Marks
Is it a picture sharing app?
- Jim Posner
Robert for G+ chief phatic officer.
- cliveb
I lost picture, want to call me back?
- Kevin Marks
kevin send video pls
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it won't let me - can you call back
- Kevin Marks
tipping point when photo sharing turns into big data signals
- cliveb
can you send vidoe tina?
- Kevin Marks
I am surprised Google hasn't done a better job of contextualizing social networks
- Jim Posner
pete warden is the chap behind jetpac http://petewarden.typepad.com/
- Kevin Marks
Tips for fixing your Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RobertS...
- Robert Scoble
why is robert having sex in a church?
- Kevin Marks
if we're having sex?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Recommend the best escort service? :-)
- Stephen Pickering
you just vanished
- Kevin Marks
should I try the Verizon 4G again?
- Kevin Marks
Is OpenStack starting to gain traction Robert?
- Jim Posner
sounds a bit like couchdb
- Kevin Marks
The content has been deprecated, bad, although photos have become bigger. Looks awful on a big screen Mac.
- Stephen Pickering
Firebase http://www.firebase.com/ sounds interesting
- Jim Posner
Jim: yes. OpenStack is going to have a huge week next week.
- Robert Scoble
I saw that IBM just joined...which was good to hear
- Jim Posner
PlaceMe is cool but it makes errors
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
As for the new UI, I like it
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
I'm with you, Robert. Some of the new tools are freaky. But cool.
- Thomas Rector
Can you view hangouts if you are not participating?
- Jim Posner
I want Gillmor Gang as a hangout:-)
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Google+ will get there, still haven't noticed any top draw social scientists contextualizing.
- cliveb
Steve is resistant to everything
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Jim, last time I tried it you can't view an in-progress Hangout, if they cap out at 10, you can't view the Hangout in progress.
- Charlie Isaacs
if it records the hangout, does it record the chat too?
- Kevin Marks
twitter's innovation seems to have plateaued
- Jim Posner
jim - you can if i bring it in as a feed, like I bring in one person
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Capitalism is like Quantum Mechanics, messy details, but produces a lot of neat things.
- Stephen Pickering
charlie - you can through the youtube integration, but you need to be in the beta for that - what they used for the Obama hangout
- Kevin Marks
isn't IMAP a cloud-based format?
- Kevin Marks
gray, the studio cat, is trying desperately to open the door from the outside. It is DEADBOLTED GRAY!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
whoever said G+ is going after Twitter, hazard a guess, spot on
- cliveb
Why are we even talking about Microsoft
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft resonates on saving time (not spending time) unsocial mind share.
- cliveb
"The case against Apple will be more difficult to prove given that Apple was a new competitive entrant into that market and was trying to find a way to compete with a dominant market player, Amazon," - Lucas
- Charlie Isaacs
steve keeps killing my double shot when he looks down. Bah1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Bezo defends Amazon approach: http://www.geekwire.com/2012...
- cliveb
Tina, the double shot I like is espresso
- Charlie Isaacs
when Steve says Office is dead, take a double shot?
- Kevin Marks
I keep forgetting to bring a bottle into the studio
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Fair Trade fair? Do we care?
- Frank Paynter
I might get much more creative if I was drinkin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sony moved to a new pricing model..similar to Apple's.
- Jim Posner
take another shot - he said it again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie that's a good idea , too!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
<unbreakable> Ellison buys RIM - after securing Android rights thru settlement </unbreakable>
- cliveb
usually we can get drunk on Beatles references
- Tina Chase Gillmor
every beatles reference, take a tab
- Kevin Marks
twitter is the new AP feed isn't it?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Peter Thiels cs183 not the real http://startuppity.tumblr.com/
- cliveb
Tina: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Every Dylan reference, shot of whiskey.
- Denise Howell
fu money - ha ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not crazy about the Google play/games placement on my browser
- Jim Posner
I need to get me some of that fu money, my wife keeps spending it :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
we need a GG shot spreadsheet... cheatsheet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
let's not forget Firesign refs
- Tina Chase Gillmor
was that the new database robert was talking about? Firesign?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin maybe but not the firesign I was thinking of
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google+ is not an offensive against Facebook or Twitter. It's a defensive move, to unify their scattered product line. Only after they unify will they be able to compete with either Facebook OR Twitter.
- Kevin Bryan
Kevin's right, it's for google to improve the ways it organises the world's information
- Kevin Marks
Lets talk about Nokia and RIM melting down next week. Amazing. And where does that put MS?
- Thomas Rector
and Sony
- Kevin Marks
Re. Facebook... this cracked me up: http://theoatmeal.com/comics...
- Frank Paynter
Friendfeed had the potential to truly integrate social networks but that seems to have stalled.
- Jim Posner
Talk to Tina's hand. :)
- Denise Howell
had a great chat with Andy Baio about selling companies last night on tummelvision http://tummelvision.tv/2012...
- Kevin Marks
frank I laughed out loud last night when I read that
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jim: FriendFeed is dead.
- Robert Scoble
Nice show, as always, guys. Robert...you always amaze me with how connected you are to EVERYTHING!
- Thomas Rector
Robert do you think there will be a similar service that works?
- Jim Posner
for more and more people, it's an Android phone and an Windows laptop. Slight growth in PC worldwide recently http://www.techspot.com/news...
- Da
I would like to see all my social networks aggregated in a meaningful way.
- Jim Posner
thanks to everyone LOVE the chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what's aggregated in a meaningful way, automatically integrated, but with granular privacy controls...
- cliveb
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Patents! luv em / hate em
- cliveb
I'm here, waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
Live now! Lots of geeky fun ahead.
- Robert Scoble
and Robert's wearing a beard
- Jerome Hughes
trying to avoid feelling little shocks
- cliveb
sergey gave him the beard, not the glasses
- Kevin Marks
ha ha
- cliveb
Is it technologically possible to capture smells digitally?
- Stephen Pickering
growing sergey disguise
- cliveb
I mean in theory
- Stephen Pickering
not easily, stephen, smells are complex molecules in your nose. you'd need a list of molecules found
- Kevin Marks
Sergey's beard is...?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks Kevin
- Stephen Pickering
Crap, my diet coke is not. It's regular Coke. Can't drink it. Pls Help!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
skull guns are so de classe
- Jerome Hughes
he needs a pair of Sights™
- Kevin Marks
rubbing shoulders with billionaires. The great Silicon Valley past time
- Tina Chase Gillmor
reco Being Elmo
- Jerome Hughes
Once the cars drive themselves, the glasses will be cool to wear.
- Alex de Soto
being John Malkovich glasses?
- Kevin Marks
stage right, even
- Jerome Hughes
mostly he drives
- Jerome Hughes
an aggregation of power systems
- Jerome Hughes
will other cars crash into gCars?
- Jerome Hughes
If they're about to crash they'll warn you on the Googles.
- Alex de Soto
will gang members crash into gang members?
- Jerome Hughes
how did I do that. Corss fade weirdness
- Tina Chase Gillmor
live multiple exposure!
- Jerome Hughes
someone make Steve use his hands please!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
talk backwards… http://www.youtube.com/watch... (for later)
- Jerome Hughes
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were/are duopolies, but of course "Crony" duopolies
- Stephen Pickering
Jerome: if other cars threaten to crash into a Google car it will try to take evasive action. If it can't, it could smartly fire off airbags to better protect humans inside.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: yes, and the liability determinations will be interesting
- Jerome Hughes
it fires off airbags at the other cars
- Kevin Marks
It's like Duck, Duck Goose
- Tina Chase Gillmor
aol was popular
- Jerome Hughes
Duck Duck Paté
- Kevin Marks
Jerome: it will have video and 3D data about what happened so exact fault will be easy to prove when someone hits a Google Car.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: that has already happened with handlebar-top GPS data disproving bs story from driver, dropped by insurance co
- Jerome Hughes
The Mac Virus? Is that a real issue or just a headline?
- Stephen Pickering
http://duckduckgo.com/ Duck Duck Go.
- Robert Scoble
glasses patents, who has em
- cliveb
Let's hear from the neighbor, Danny.
- Kevin Bryan
Danny's peripheral vision not so good with those Googles.
- Alex de Soto
We want to be deserving of great love, like Apple
- Zato Gibson
How about MS paying app developers to beef up their app catalogue?
- Alex de Soto
haven't seen MSFT giving away free dev phones. just the emulator tools
- cliveb
Apple's going to have to come out with a bigger screen iPhone. They're gonna need two SKUs
- Stephen Pickering
the eye of Robert
- Jerome Hughes
hmm, thinking we're gonna see hacked glasses very soon
- cliveb
Ricotta pie!
- Alex de Soto
combine kinect gestures with the glasses
- Jerome Hughes
Kevin's mouth is not moving
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They already did with Steven Van Zandt, and it's lame
- Stephen Pickering
http://duckduckgo.com/ quacks no crap
- cliveb
Where's all the coke?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I thought you wanted diet
- Kevin Marks
87 current / 763 total views
- Jerome Hughes
welllll....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ashton
- Stephen Pickering
yahoo trained so many engineers for others
- cliveb
Scoble said Cocaine like 20 times. New record for this show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
many also hate SJ, perhaps he'll be able to create a convincing portrayal
- Jerome Hughes
Cocaine beats Scoble - http://www.googlefight.com/index...
- John Taschek
genius
- Jerome Hughes
silence is golden, and here's your mark!
- Jerome Hughes
someone patent the gillmor gang
- cliveb
Moe... Steve don't fly that way
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Viacom vs YouTube
- Zato Gibson
violation of ToS
- Jerome Hughes
Is Yahoo! going to win its patent lawsuit against Facebook?
- Kevin Bryan
And Pinterest managed to become #3 or something among social networks.
- Alex de Soto
in the past the 3 major networks made for a "shared experience"
- Jerome Hughes
Facebook counter sued Yahoo same day Chris Cheah granted patent http://1.usa.gov/HItpFf
- cliveb
Good Sinatra
- Jerome Hughes
Steve accuses Danny of pulling sun tan lotion out of his ass.Oh my god
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Really we need Apple and Google to work together. Will we see a detente?
- Stephen Pickering
What's Steve's problem. There are matzah balls in his near future. usually that makes him happy ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is all about giving nerds what they want. That's their main strategy.
- Zato Gibson
nice, teleport to ipad
- Jerome Hughes
Is it an app? Airdisplay?
- Stephen Pickering
(jobsworth) Augmented reality seen from plane seat http://pic.twitter.com/aLEYB3K...
- cliveb
it opens an "analog hole" of a new type
- Jerome Hughes
Steve's happy again! Yay! :)
- Kevin Bryan
http://avatron.com/apps... is the Air Display.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks everyone!
- Robert Scoble
heh
- Robert Scoble
thanks John
- Jerome Hughes
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Hi Tina. I'm glad to see ya.
- Aron Michalski
Hi Aron
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Happy Friday, everybody!
- Jerome Hughes
paging Robert Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Getting hooked up!
- Robert Scoble
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
It's the Joyce section of the FST...
- Aron Michalski
Cool, the guy who hired me at Rackspace, Rob La Gesse, is on today. We're still having lots of audio troubles, please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Great to see a NGL-er on the Gang. Makes us proud...sniff sniff.
- Aron Michalski
Hey Kids.... @kr8tr, Scoble SG etc etc
- Hugh MacLeod
Actually Skype works better on Windows :-)
- Stephen Pickering
It's a floor wax and a desert topping - http://www.nbc.com/saturda... - or a tablet, a refrigerator, and a PC.
- John Taschek
hey Hugh!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We need Jack from 30 Rock on for those truly multi function devices.
- Aron Michalski
Nice to see my "We need to talk" print hanging behind Scoble.
- Hugh MacLeod
'@scobleizer on Taptera - As iPads gain more work adoption, startups start up… http://bit.ly/H3r3Ua
- John Taschek
I think the reason Apple is so successful is that they have the best product but also this time around their prices are the same as competitors
- Stephen Pickering
I came to see Rob LaGesse:-) Yay, Newsgang Live
- Francine Hardaway
studentforce looks GREAT on salesforce.touch.com or ... as I refer to it: campus.touch
- studentforce
Hey Kevn... How's JP?
- Hugh MacLeod
not only for iPad ... html5
- studentforce
Scoble wants your data...braaaaaains...
- Aron Michalski
Scoble- I'm looking with great interest at the Galaxy Note 10.1.
- Hugh MacLeod
3M in the first weekend.
- Nir Ben Yona
Android will have a solid offering thanks to the size of Android user base. Rim and Nokia are toast.
- Aron Michalski
Note to RIM: It's the apps, Stupid.
- Hugh MacLeod
Interesting fact: Google generates four times more revenue from iPhone than Android http://bit.ly/HlKiGF
- Nir Ben Yona
Kevin's muted - I think on purpose.
- John Taschek
He's thinking. Debate skills are in full play.
- John Taschek
What happened to JP, Hugh?
- Francine Hardaway
schools are handing out iPads to students as they arrive as freshmen (Seton Hill University; Albeline Christian University, etc.) ...... http://chronicle.com/blogs...
- studentforce
Francine... JP is fine, when I saw him at SXSW.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have Paper on my iPad. It's phenomenal. Even I can illustrated using it
- Francine Hardaway
Scoble just justified why Rackspace pays him the big bucks.
- Hugh MacLeod
(Apple in the background chain sawing down the competition...)
- Aron Michalski
Francine, I'm still waiting for a decent stylus for iPad.
- Hugh MacLeod
I have muted. I think I shoudl go indoors
- Kevin Marks
did you try the Samsung Touch Hugh?
- Kevin Marks
I bought a Stylus in a Verizon store that seems okay.
- Francine Hardaway
The only weakness I see with Apple is data, like I can't get my Garageband projects from previous iPad to the new one or to the desktop, that's the place where the cloud has an advantage, but it will take time
- Stephen Pickering
camera and mic access is coming to HTML5
- kosso
My friends at the Audubon apps are moving to HTML5
- Francine Hardaway
The Wacom bamboo stylus seems good to me.
- Hilary Talbot
Launching this summer
- Francine Hardaway
I see you Rob! I'm happy to see you! NGL FTW
- Francine Hardaway
always has to be an alternative
- studentforce
@Hilary Is it? they guys over at The Verge said the Wacom Bamboo sucks.
- Nir Ben Yona
Camera and mic access is defined in HTML5, but no-one has implemented it
- Kevin Marks
Ooh, Kevin changed locations!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Paper app- Meh. I HATE drawing with my index finger.
- Hugh MacLeod
@Nir Ben Yona OK, I was just using it for simple drawing, and it was okay for that
- Hilary Talbot
Have you seen the touch interface for the Samsung TV? You cant stop kids from touching it, might as well make it a giant tablet...
- Aron Michalski
@Hilary OK cool :)
- Nir Ben Yona
It's because Apple charged to much for their PCs back then, whereas back then the Windows PCs were just as powerful, but Apple has their pricing right on the mobile, that's why no one can touch them
- Stephen Pickering
iPad 3 screen will be good for medical images
- Kevin Marks
I have already heard that from doctors, Kevin. They all love the iPad.
- Francine Hardaway
The hospitals, however, don't love the iPad as much as the docs do. SOmething about security:-)
- Francine Hardaway
What I'm seeing these last few years is the erosion of the separation of work and non-work.... tools included.
- Hugh MacLeod
Kinect style control of the screens around the house would be good
- Kevin Marks
Kinect gestures for a Windows tablet would be interesting...
- Aron Michalski
iPad is a big gaming platform already
- Kevin Marks
Yes, Hugh. And that's why BYOD is taking over. If you are always on all the time, you want a device you really like
- Francine Hardaway
Great minds, Kevin... ;-)
- Aron Michalski
having some weird tech problems today. audio fluctuations, bah
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google showed off face recognition api on android already
- Kevin Marks
or switch to Mac
- Jerome Hughes
Francine, and BYOD makes it easier to keep your employees always on.
- Hugh MacLeod
yeah, i would hope to Apple in that case
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If Microsoft stays with days of old methodology, they are screwed, if they go up against iOS they are also likely screwed. IMHO
- Erik Lagerway
I'm so old I can still remember when coffee shops didn't have laptops or Starbucks logos :D
- Hugh MacLeod
@hugh lol
- Susan Beebe
oddly just watched the last show on tc hello from a londoner in, erm, poland
- Scott Jones
I just downloaded the most gorgeous Audubon app. It will soon be in HTML5, so it can have a social component.
- Francine Hardaway
I am SO IN THE MARKET for a new tablet I can actually draw with properly. iPad's styluses are a BIG limitation. Waiting for the Galaxy Note 10.1 to come out.
- Hugh MacLeod
io12 sold out in 20 mins, student tried for academic tix, came up sold out after 30 seconds (same old, same old)
- cliveb
Apple is gonna screw themselves however with their iBook strategy
- studentforce
Hugh, is the Note 10.1 Android or Samsungs?
- Aron Michalski
What's wrong with iBook?
- Stephen Pickering
Samsung tablet, powered by Android.
- Hugh MacLeod
there are so many OHTER and better distributors of eTextbooks
- studentforce
Apple has been training people on iOS UI for a while. First the phone (training wheels), then the iPad, followed by Lion, new Apple TV, etc. MS has a long way to go but can eventually achieve this if enough businesses buy into Windows 8.
- Alex de Soto
just lost the feed
- Susan Beebe
Oops! I did not do that.
- Alex de Soto
studentforce: how about Inkling?
- Robert Scoble
Me too
- Hugh MacLeod
Well, though I like ibook interface better I buy all my books for Kindle just so it's a little more open
- Stephen Pickering
boinggg
- kosso
WebRTC is needed for HTML5 to really take off in relation to communications at least.
- Erik Lagerway
just lost the entire feed
- studentforce
We will get you back on feed.
- Robert Scoble
feed down guys
- Scott Jones
REFRESH... working now
- Susan Beebe
back
- kosso
got it back after a browser refresh
- Jerome Hughes
The gestures are becoming universal. Look at the Cadillac CUE system for their newer cars.
- Aron Michalski
I'm actually starting to like my Galaxy Note more than my iPhone. Who woulda thunk...
- Hugh MacLeod
Bigger screen + you can use a Wacom stylus on it. #Win.
- Hugh MacLeod
you like the pressure sensitive stylus? is the lag low enough?
- Kevin Marks
it's about the social
- Jerome Hughes
devs like apps, because they're easier to sell and make money for the devs. a lot harder to do with web.
- kosso
Apps and the Web will both grow and co exist
- Stephen Pickering
We like the Cloud for data and the native apps for the interface and performance
- Stephen Pickering
haha :)
- Susan Beebe
I'm so old I can remember when Steve Gilmor used to talk about whether Facebook will become more open or not.
- Hugh MacLeod
The browser is the engine for many apps in the Android. It's actually brilliant as a single engine so that apps are not as bloated. Everything is just a tab to open.
- Aron Michalski
easier to charge for an app via itunes (despite their 30%) than it is to do with an html5 mobile app/site. obviously there are existing subscription/access/paywall models for access to the app, but Apple did make that shockingly easy.
- kosso
apps that integrate with the web
- Jerome Hughes
Designers learning about touch and other "NUI." Check out this book: http://books.google.com/books...
- Alex de Soto
Android is more URL friendly than iOS
- Kevin Marks
yes, why are there no psychic apps? that know exactly what you want to do? ;p
- kosso
Apps are unapoligetically Fisher Price.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin, agreed, it's almost like iOS doesn't want you to go to the web, hehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
@Kevin - Right, but your Mom doesn't care :)
- Susan Beebe
Browser already fading away, replaced by Apps UX, and canonical JavaScript (V8 / Node)
- cliveb
my Mum has an android phone
- Kevin Marks
Apps and the web can compliment each other
- Stephen Pickering
100 million Elvis fans can't be wrong...
- Aron Michalski
gyroscope
- Nir Ben Yona
Thanks Nir.
- Robert Scoble
they're (the computers in our pockets) sort of like the PS/2s that ran only terminal emulators, plus a little word processing and spreadsheets, 'cause there wasn't yet better stuff around
- Jerome Hughes
Browsers is a transitional technology, incubated Apps, UX and high perf JavaScript
- cliveb
Apps are for creating and consumption and the web is for communicating
- Stephen Pickering
Apps are for electrons and the web is for photons. We need both to work together
- Stephen Pickering
nice try hugh
- Steve Gillmor
Someone will have to develop a Mother App to keep track of all the millions of apps that will be available. The Mother App will probably function pretty much like the Web does today.
- Alex de Soto
Chrome or a chromy browser is the platform that all the Google stuff works off of. I used to be miffed about it until I saw that one single engine was steering the functions through a central point. Saves space and lets the cloud feed the device.
- Aron Michalski
Apps are the factory, the web is distribution
- Stephen Pickering
exactly
- kosso
front end guys turning attention to server side async programing using chromium, v8, node
- cliveb
Everyone always says HTML5 is right around the corner, but by the time it comes, we will have moved beyond it
- Francine Hardaway
Standards take a long time. 802.11 (WiFi) too almost a decade.
- Rob La Gesse
right on Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HTML5 video with canvas manipulation, doing a lot of pushing of image data-uri per second is all that's really needed.
- kosso
What comes after HTML5 ?
- Susan Beebe
.. once we've got the video/camera access
- kosso
just HTML
- Kevin Marks
Susan, I don't know, but I do know something WILL
- Francine Hardaway
@Kevin - gotcha... @Francine :)
- Susan Beebe
Susan : If Apple have anything to do with it, it'll just be "The New HTML"
- kosso
@moe lol
- Susan Beebe
Exactly, Steve
- Francine Hardaway
wifi is everywhere
- Kevin Marks
and it was on Apple first
- Kevin Marks
starbucks
- cliveb
hahah
- Susan Beebe
Hotels and airlines
- Kevin Marks
Poor Steve. He has such terrible data problems. #firstworldproblem
- Francine Hardaway
mmm bandwidth
- kosso
Because of Steve, I have now watched all of Downton Abbey and gone on to MadMen. I am broke
- Francine Hardaway
Gillmor gang is the bandwidth hog
- Kevin Marks
WebRTC will replace skype
- Kevin Marks
Kinect for Italian politicians...
- Aron Michalski
WebAudio safari and chrome
- cliveb
it's like a a third party buying your mortgage
- Tina Chase Gillmor
heroku,,,y-comb
- cliveb
cloudant,,,,yc
- cliveb
Francine - Mad Men is back. Watch in season, save dollars!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mentoring
- kosso
I have created the same thing in Arizona, but nobody gives a crap/
- Francine Hardaway
Dropbox is a Y-Combinator company. So does OMGPOP (DrawSomething).
- Nir Ben Yona
And I mentor every week, and so do 28 other execs and angels. Arizona is just off the radar.
- Francine Hardaway
who bought lottery tickets?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Arizona is not alone
- cliveb
I forgot
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think we may have lost Rob for good... Rooooob1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That much bread...scary. could pay my cable bill.
- Aron Michalski
Gangplank does this in Arizona. I'm going to keep saying this until someone hears it.
- Francine Hardaway
nokia?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
SFBA + NYC then the rest, even Seattle is a red dwarf
- cliveb
WebRTC (the proposed standard) could potentially help propel Skype and others (webrtc is protocol agnostic)
- Erik Lagerway
Robert should check out @clipboard runs on Rackspace
- cliveb
cliveb: I will and have checked out clipboard, but I'm not the target market for these things. :-)
- Robert Scoble
more mentors available too.
- kosso
more experience out there.
- kosso
I just interviewed Springpad, which competes in the Clipboard space too.
- Robert Scoble
and after the Facebook IPO, more money.
- kosso
that's a good point Steve makes.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve needs Simple.fi, an automated simplicity filter...
- Aron Michalski
It does feel like Google throws away a lot. Makes people reluctant
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert should check out Arizona. Arizona. Arizona. I am on a tear.
- Francine Hardaway
Robert: crunching the dom http://www.meetup.com/seattle...
- cliveb
Francine, devs walk the gangplank, is there capital?
- cliveb
They offer free services that they can data mine.
- Aron Michalski
Highlight keeps telling me people I don't care about are near me
- Francine Hardaway
stalkerlicious apps
- Susan Beebe
Francine - exactly
- Susan Beebe
Dog!!!
- Francine Hardaway
That sound you hear from the app is telling you to walk your dog...
- Aron Michalski
I'm not his friend...
- Aron Michalski
is that my dog?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Someone's dog is locked in somewhere
- Francine Hardaway
my dogs just came in
- Kevin Marks
Little red roosters back, dogs begin to howl
- cliveb
Girls Around Me App Takes Creepy to a New Level - NY TIMES - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...
- Susan Beebe
Where is Boys Around Me? Once again, sexism
- Francine Hardaway
Nice doggie!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the app does both. Also, see grindr
- Kevin Marks
I know, cute doggie Kevin!!
- Susan Beebe
Streamboard - isn't that an iOS app only?
- Susan Beebe
Creep in my general vicinity
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have Streamboard, and I like it
- Francine Hardaway
We're wandering into the "I don't care about normal people" territory again. Look at the stream but you won't see me.
- Aron Michalski
American Idol broadcasts Lorem Ipsum: http://pinterest.com/pin...
- Kevin Marks
I can name that tune in two notes
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey he's the Jimmy Iovine of Social Media...
- Aron Michalski
I move outside to avod the dogs, and a plane goes over
- Kevin Marks
Streamboard is iOS, yes.
- Robert Scoble
a Recublican
- Jerome Hughes
Streamboard is crack :)
- Susan Beebe
Repubhubsublican...
- Aron Michalski
Kevin cdant win today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Repubsubhubbublican
- Jerome Hughes
THat's hilarious Aronski and Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
Doggies around me - new app
- Kevin Marks
Oh well at least the guys are getting a point in befroe the show ends. not like last week where they saved all their insight for AFTER the show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Here's the slam dunk for Kevin: https://plus.google.com/u...
- Robert Scoble
sounds effects all around
- Kevin Marks
I totally agree about the massive disruption. Most of these old line companies will go away
- Francine Hardaway
that's how you can tell it's real
- Jerome Hughes
Do I have to put one of thoswe graphics up the movie theaters do... please turn off all your devices before the show?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
GOod luck with that, Tina
- Francine Hardaway
my kids don't even know what microsoft is
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Great point Tina!
- Erik Lagerway
symphony & opera in Chicago have been disrupted by a) mobile and b) fistfight recently
- Jerome Hughes
Buy JohnT's lowest common denominator couple yr's out - hello Node.js
- cliveb
it took me and my son 15 minutes to work out how to add a table of contents to Word
- Kevin Marks
Steve needs an app.. find me, help me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I never could figure that out Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft is a big old tree falling slowly
- Francine Hardaway
I used to be able to, but they now have huge menus with graphics in
- Kevin Marks
APNS is the bomb!
- Erik Lagerway
Steve wants Urban Airship?
- Kevin Marks
Exactly. They have made their menus impenetrable.
- Francine Hardaway
@Tina - wow - re kids not knowing what Microsoft is...
- Susan Beebe
I haven't looked at a windows os in a while. Wouldn't know what to do I'm sure
- Tina Chase Gillmor
CSO/CMO ? from Skype just went to Urban Airship
- Erik Lagerway
word menus designed by Escher
- cliveb
Is Urban Airship the same as Boxcar for iOS ?
- Susan Beebe
It seems developers hate Android more than Apple simply because of the number of devices their apps need to support
- Erik Lagerway
Susan... my older one, yes, but not my 6th grader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does AMC have an App?
- Stephen Pickering
wow that is amazing... Microsoft did not innovate beyond core OS. I suspect they will continue to dominate in Enterprise, but lose their consumer base.
- Susan Beebe
Missing was good
- Kevin Marks
breaking bad ftw
- kosso
for a second there, thought we might be heading into George R closing MI plant to move production to WI
- Jerome Hughes
I have no idea what channel they're on
- Kevin Marks
those wacky screen writers
- Tina Chase Gillmor
channel numbers… increasingly irrelevant
- Jerome Hughes
Google's strength is not premium content but the amateur, 'long tail' content
- Stephen Pickering
well put Stephen, toss my GTV away, nah not yet (hoping)
- cliveb
Great show guys. Thanks!
- Erik Lagerway
I loved this show
- Francine Hardaway
Very enjoyable show. Thanks to all.
- Zato Gibson
Microsoft will lose their enterprise base too, Susan. Just slowly
- Francine Hardaway
good robust dialog (& chat channel)
- cliveb
aw Francine, so glad you liked it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks to ALLLLLLLLLL!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We added a few features you might have missed recently: support for imgur.com thumbnails (http://friendfeed.com/search...) and "Best of" for users/groups on the iPhone (http://friendfeed.com/iphone...)
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Rumors of FriendFeed's death are greatly exaggerated. (Thank you, Ben!)
- Stephen Mack
Thanks, guys :)
- Ac0n (former Franc)
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that.
- Stephen Mack
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both.
- Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it.
- Josh Haley
Thanks for the update Ben
- AJ Batac ('_')
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, I'm not sure we know that.
- Jesse Stay
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here.
- Bruce Lewis
not enough, best of day should be like a stream that can be traced back
- ffcode
ffcode: you can do that. Here is the "Best of week" from one year ago: http://friendfeed.com/summary...
- Benjamin Golub
thanks Benjamin
- ffcode
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!! MUH HA HA
- Roberto Bonini
GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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patents...sue me, sue you
- cliveb
sue sue suidio...
- Aron Michalski
gather 'round
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Scoble is locked and loaded ...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Was there ever a doubt?
- Aron Michalski
Awesome.
- Robert Scoble
calling Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin Marks... where are you?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry for delay folks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'll show off the Canon 5D MKIII on the show. Just arrived.
- Robert Scoble
everyone is ready... here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gizmodo gave it a great review: http://gizmodo.com/5895239...
- Robert Scoble
Flip down Steve's lapel, Tina :)
- Denise Howell
Hey guys!
- Nir Ben Yona
Wow thrilled to see you're still using FriendFeed @scobleizer :-) It's still my search engine for tweets
- Tony Hollingsworth
thanks Denise
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes: Push back Facebook
- cliveb
its like sexual harassment
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tuesday’s Supreme Court ruling, written by Justice Stephen Breyer, “focused heavily on a trio of software patents”
- cliveb
facebook is like your home
- Tina Chase Gillmor
How's it any different than giving permission to get a credit report on you to get a job
- Stephen M
late to the party... what did I miss? ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Not much.
- Robert Scoble
what about the SPDY protocol that Google is tryin to implement?
- Stephen M
surprised to see Dan Farber on the show, welcome back.
- Jerry Schuman
SPDY protocol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Stephen M
yep Dan's back inmany ways. glad to see him too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't read the NYTimes
- Stephen M
the always present "analog hole"
- Jerry Schuman
I happily Pay for The Wall Street Journal
- Stephen M
and The Daily on the iPad
- Stephen M
My Starbucks cup isn't covered with ads
- Jerry Schuman
Actually the NYTimes pay wall isn't doing to well... three months after it was launched they announced they had 200k subscribers.. here we are 9 months later and they only have 435k users
- Stephen M
most of those 200k subscribers in the first 3 months got a deal of 99 cents
- Stephen M
Google has already implemented SPDY; firefox is now doing it too
- Kevin Marks
I got subscriptions to WSJ, economist, forbes, atlantic with airmiles. They pile up, I throw them out. Not sure anyone reads them
- Kevin Marks
i prefer the WSJ ipad app
- Stephen M
taschek please move so I can see if you are locked up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
adapt or die... simple.
- Jerry Schuman
I pay for the NYT and Harpers, but not the WSJ. Get dead tree versions of Atlantic, and New Yorker.
- Frank Paynter
john taschek ... trying to get you back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I pay for the National Review and Weekly Standard..the digitial editiions
- Stephen M
Somebody should set up Craig's List parking lots where people can bring their stuff for exchange.
- Frank Paynter
how can you include NPR, they get gov funds
- Stephen M
Frank: that's a good idea. But when I did a garage sale that is pretty much how people got to my house anyway.
- Robert Scoble
my name super says salesaforce - is that an italian version?
- Kevin Marks
It's not a problem on my end. Should I try calling you?
- John Taschek
Al Jazeera? lol anti-american
- Stephen M
Good to see Dan back on the gang again.
- Hilary Talbot
we'll have to change that super. Good catch Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert, I'm not sure I want many strangers at my house.
- Frank Paynter
FT.com paywall more convenience than having to Google articles
- cliveb
It took 3 days for Anderson Cooper to get to Japan for coverage
- Jerry Schuman
Frank, i use a consignment shop to sell my stuff..its kinda like craigs list
- Stephen M
None of use newspaper classified ads!
- Frank Paynter
that's one paper I don't pay for..the local paper
- Stephen M
Fox News now has live streaming of the channel on the ipad app.. woohoo
- Stephen M
I'm watching live CNBC via my Ameritrade app on my iPad... all day long.
- Jerry Schuman
ok.. so now talk about Aereo
- Jerry Schuman
Am reminded of the recent documentary on the NYT where at a conference panel David Carr held up the printed homepage of http://www.newser.com/ with all of the NYT articles cut out... there was nothing left on their homepage. Swiss-cheese.
- Johnny C
the secret to Al Jazeerah's success is their relationship with people on the ground. When something happens, they are looking to be the 'one' brand for news for people to share the event(s) LIVE until one of their journos gets there to report. Great use of citizen journalism and professional journalism. They build their news sharing model/architecture focussed on the community with a view back to their services for global amplification.
- iconic88
Nice, the ability to consume your lame Verizon or AT$T LTE data plan in 30 minutes
- Jerry Schuman
Roku has a techcrunch and engadet channel
- Stephen M
Shotgun marriage...
- cliveb
Journalism matters - this storify by Charles Arthur of the geeklist twitter storm made it news: http://storify.com/charles...
- Kevin Marks
ARM or intel versino of Win8?
- Stephen M
lol.
- Stephen M
exactly, iconic88 - that's what I was saying about stringers
- Kevin Marks
has anyone been paying attention to the leaked information about Office 15? it looks really interesting
- Stephen M
Moe: not on my iPad.
- Robert Scoble
I'm waiting for Sprint LTE..they have announced that their data on phones will still be Unlimited!!
- Stephen M
Moe: it rocks just like the old one (new iPad battery).
- Robert Scoble
so logical
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook in deal to beef up patent portfolio: http://on.ft.com/GI8YqN
- cliveb
Moe: it's slightly warmer than old one, but no.
- Robert Scoble
Are privacy controls patentable...?
- cliveb
Get the bloody broadcast television spectrum... blow the doors off the carrier stranglehold
- Jerry Schuman
Jerry AT&T and Verizon bought the old analog broadcast spectrum
- Stephen M
exactly jerry, we need white spaces to expand wifi
- Kevin Marks
true that
- Stephen M
I do not have an overheating problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Was watching on my iPhone from the car and ran into the house just as I heard my name!!!
- Francine Hardaway
Office is in the cloud
- Stephen M
So happy to be somewhere where I can not only watch, but chat.
- Francine Hardaway
How did Steve know I was here?
- Francine Hardaway
Tina, exchange it. (no bacon and egg breakfast for Steve...)
- cliveb
he didn't francine.. just likes to talk about you
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Social graph personalization.... hmmm... I knew a company once that did that. ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
Hey, Scoble, you win about Highlight. Chelsea told me she has actually met Andy from HMB because they appeared several times in each other's Highlight:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Streamboard. I use it
- Francine Hardaway
I don't trust twitter.. people may get things wrong
- Stephen M
Speaking of Al Jazeera I just got back from DrupalCon where their lead developer did a talk where on how they built out a custom implementation using Drupal. It includes an editorial process for their writers that is optimized to get news published quickly on top of an extensive caching layer. Very impressive based on their site traffic. You can learn more and see screenshots of their...
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- Mark Krynsky
Stephen: people get things wrong in mainstream press all the time.
- Robert Scoble
who do you think doesn't get things wrong, stephen?
- Kevin Marks
"so hot it cooks eggs! Just kidding." http://instagr.am/p...
- cliveb
Stephen: 35,000 people die while driving in the US every year. You saying you never leave the house?
- Robert Scoble
lol no
- Stephen M
Case in point on getting it wrong... the guy that did the video of him flying with his wings... freaking saw him all over mainstream media...
- Jerry Schuman
maybe wrong was the incorrect word...
- Stephen M
cliveb: you like that photo? Having fun with Apple.
- Robert Scoble
with Twitter there isn't any context
- Stephen M
I should have spiked my iced tea
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jerry: exactly. The mainstream media gets fooled all the time too.
- Robert Scoble
you'll find out that someone was shot... i'd like to know they why, and the who..
- Stephen M
I need a studio bar
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I need a bar, studio
- Jerry Schuman
I have a tiki bar on the deck
- Kevin Marks
i could go for a long island ice tea.. :)
- Stephen M
TikiBar.. now there was a podcast.
- Jerry Schuman
yummmm... bring it on
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's a beautiful day in AZ -- for a Tiki Bar
- Francine Hardaway
You folks are making me thirsty and I still have work to do today. Kevin makes me want to put an umbrella in my drink tonight.
- Mark Krynsky
fresh oranges and lemons here
- Kevin Marks
adapt or die
- Jerry Schuman
Francine, you're pretty much fulltime in AZ now/
- Amyloo
just ask Loic
- Jerry Schuman
?
- Amyloo
Loic was pretty stand up..
- Stephen M
how does Flipboard get away with having the news article without an ad?
- Stephen M
Loic has pivoted so many times he has to be getting dizzy. He shouldn't have drank the Microsoft kool-aid
- Jerry Schuman
synthesize some fresh oranges and lemons on the conveyor belt. Juice!
- cliveb
they put ads in the middle of n pages
- Kevin Marks
ah, i guess i just haven't seen it hm
- Stephen M
Sold my house in HMB when daughter moved to London.
- Francine Hardaway
He fell for Silverlight
- cliveb
i guess dan doesn't care for Huffington Poast
- Stephen M
Poor Loic
- Francine Hardaway
try adding the Guardian to your flipboard
- Kevin Marks
Huffington poach :)
- Stephen M
hm ok
- Stephen M
Links are not overrated. They are a common courtesy
- Francine Hardaway
OOh an ad
- Stephen M
Tina, did Dan F change jobs?
- Francine Hardaway
Same stories, right. Same thing on cable news.
- Amyloo
The thing I appreciate most about Flipboard is the instant drilldown and out capability. Example, click on a hashtag and hit Show Section.... instant gratification
- Jerry Schuman
+1 Amy Loo
- Francine Hardaway
Hey Amy
- Hilary Talbot
When my stories were published via engadget, it only increased my traffic; Big time.#justsaying
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil! Hi Hil!
- Amyloo
ABC News is getting a lot of traffic from Yahoo News
- Stephen M
:)
- Hilary Talbot
Flipboard is nice but they need logic other than sorting by newest content in descending order. I'm a huge fan of Zite which is spot on for bringing me relevant content.
- Mark Krynsky
Let's all cheer for the 24 Hour News Cycle!!
- Frank Paynter
Agree Mark. Always like Zite
- Francine Hardaway
Yahoo!-ABC News Network Becomes the New #1 Online News Source - http://abcn.ws/GL6ypn reached a total audience of over 89 million people in the first month since they combined traffic as the Yahoo! – ABC News Network
- Stephen M
Mark, congrats on the 5 year anniversary for the lifestream blog..
- Jerry Schuman
I find much more value in "best of day" content over "latest" in app interfaces.
- Mark Krynsky
Thanks Jerry!
- Mark Krynsky
Check out Aereo!
- Jerry Schuman
Ok I will.
- Mark Krynsky
argh. Back finally.
- Aron Michalski
Aereo is capturing HD video from OTA broadcast television then streaming it.
- Jerry Schuman
ICA owns Aereo
- Jerry Schuman
Scoble's story re "want a newspaper" like the grocery checkout person who actually asked me last week if I also wanted to buy stamps and some film. I said "WHAT?"
- Amyloo
We did this with QuickTime TV a decade ago
- Kevin Marks
they have servers that are nothing more then a giant array of HD antenas
- Jerry Schuman
that's why i have to sign in with my directv account to watch the fox news stream on their ipad app
- Stephen M
film...funny
- Hilary Talbot
Jerry, "Aereo is available exclusively in New York City"
- Frank Paynter
At this moment... yes only in NYC
- Jerry Schuman
Glad I have a daughter with a Brooklyn address
- Jerry Schuman
I watch the NFL live on my ipad
- Stephen M
Office is dead, long live Office
- Jerry Schuman
The National Forensic League? I'm watching that this weekend... https://www.facebook.com/events...
- Kevin Marks
lol
- Stephen M
I just filled a dumpster with ten years or more of MS Partner crap.
- Frank Paynter
Interesting article says Facebook, Twitter still not THAT important for news http://bit.ly/wDv6RH
- Nir Ben Yona
Office 2010 was the fastest selling version of Office in history
- Stephen M
OnLive Desktop... office is dead, long live office
- Jerry Schuman
Coroner Gillmor: Ding Dong, everything's dead http://hosting.opml.org/amyloo...
- Amyloo
I have to use Office because clients do
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft doesn't care why you have to use it... just that you purchase it
- Stephen M
Just keep watching the Microsoft quarterly earning reports... Office is dying a slow but imminent death
- Jerry Schuman
here we go into the Microsoft competitors bashing on Microsoft
- Stephen M
Totally buzzword compliant
- Francine Hardaway
Tiles
- Stephen Pickering
Windows 8 looks like GeckoBoard
- Jerry Schuman
Windows 1 had tiles, overlapping windows came with windows 2
- Kevin Marks
Just downloaded Streamboard on the new iPad. What should I track?
- Stephen Pickering
Ask Loic how the whole Microsloth thing worked out for him.
- Jerry Schuman
Just pick a hashtag, Stephean
- Francine Hardaway
Stephen: I watch the word "app" on it.
- Robert Scoble
what's funny is the vaunted Windows Vista is still used by more people than Ios android and Mac combinded
- Stephen M
But can't you switch back and forth between Metro and the older look
- Stephen Pickering
Consumer Windows is a whole different thing from corporate Windows.
- Frank Paynter
Is Windows 8 a consumer play?
- Frank Paynter
Oh well, then
- Francine Hardaway
is that like Angry Birds? It's the pigs who live in glass houses
- Kevin Marks
Cognitive dissonance: realtime content, yet shift to asynchronous programming.
- cliveb
This Streamboard is too cool!
- Stephen Pickering
Hey Steve, I'm doing a backbend over my fit ball. If you had me on, your audience could see:-)
- Francine Hardaway
@Robert: Rovio just updated their announcement: http://reut.rs/GViFlk
- Nir Ben Yona
Like Android tablets have taken off
- Stephen M
Rovio's HQ is in the same office park as NOK's. If NOK can't get a Windows 8 deal done, you know it's a different world altogether
- Johnny C
well, Kindle and Nook do OK
- Kevin Marks
Android is fragmentation hell and it's only just begun.
- Jerry Schuman
Corporate IT has had a hard time keeping up with migrations to each new generation of Microsoft ...
- Frank Paynter
Angry birds isn't even a good touch app
- Stephen M
Excel is still a good spreadsheet
- Frank Paynter
Microsoft has been paying developers for everything for quite some time now. Wholesale defection off the platforms.
- Jerry Schuman
Outlook 15 has social built in
- Stephen M
Why do you think Ozzie bailed out?
- Jerry Schuman
the microsoft office is still good but Google docs is free and you can pass it around easily
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good points Robert!
- Frank Paynter
Office web apps are free
- Stephen M
What about MSFT's Facebook relationship?
- Stephen Pickering
microsoft office is creaky as heck. I used to be a huge Word jockey, and I can't make it do anything anymore
- Kevin Marks
I use Google docs and spreadsheets because of collaboration
- Francine Hardaway
Kevin I can't even find the menus to do the things I used to do
- Francine Hardaway
New disruptive systems that are currently being developed in the BI space is going to finally kill off spreadsheet mentality. Pair good cloud based BI with an intuitive iPad interface and backed by things like Wolfram Alpha = game over.
- Jerry Schuman
in more important news, Justin Bieber is releasing a new single next week :)
- Stephen M
big data systems will lead the way regarding data interaction in the post-pc era
- Jerry Schuman
What is Dan Farber going to do now?
- Francine Hardaway
Man's ability to create a pair of wings for self propelled flight is DEAD
- Jerry Schuman
Agreed. Cnet and even ZDnet
- Nir Ben Yona
Jerrry: big data systems - right on
- cliveb
I think Les Moonves would be a good interview dan..get his take on the web and stuff
- Stephen M
Happy to see Dan Farber back at CNET
- Francine Hardaway
Why is there no CBS app like there is an ABC and NBC?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: it won't matter soon.
- Robert Scoble
CBS want's u to purchase the show on itunes
- Stephen M
BTW you can use the TV.com app to watch some of the CBS shows..its not the best quality, its an iphone app that is expanded
- Stephen M
Ah thanks Namesake!
- Stephen Pickering
YouTube live account fails on my Chromebook, feels like needs Sandybridge / Nvidia processor
- cliveb
no prob
- Stephen M
I have a plug...
- Kevin Marks
Give that man a better Tricaster please!
- Alex de Soto
I think its weird that CBS doesn't even let you stream their shows from their website using an ipad...they only have clips
- Stephen M
It's caused me to lose interest in 2.5 Men
- Stephen Pickering
anyone free this weekend? https://www.facebook.com/events... https://www.facebook.com/events...
- Kevin Marks
I can't believe you don't get a response from the universe from saying that
- Francine Hardaway
oo, i just checked out the tv.com app again.. they've increased the video quality
- Stephen M
Tricaster HD or YouTube live hangouts - TBD
- cliveb
if you don't provide a better unit, negative gestures will ensue
- Jerome Hughes
thanks to allllllll! Wonderful day... great show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
looking forward to catching the first part as got here later
- Jerome Hughes
Did anyone notice that Amazon formed a studio and is testing a movie on Prime - http://amzn.to/GJKtuk
- John Taschek
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Hello Gang and Chat Gang!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Let's see, should I use Steve Gillmor's iPad? :-)
- Robert Scoble
you would touch it, Robert?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nah, I still haven't taken it out of the case. I took mine out, though. I'm using it on this call.
- Robert Scoble
ok calling up. Please tweet show!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My iPad is now fully functional!
- John Taschek
Who is on today?
- John Taschek
Stop showing off John!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My iPad can't get its apps downloaded
- Francine Hardaway
Ooooo, Francine has a new iPad?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
standby Folks. We are getting KEvin back on
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hm, skype just launched and then quit
- Kevin Marks
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey guys. Happy iPad day!
- Nir Ben Yona
I haven't ordered one, should I?
- Kevin Marks
john tripped the 5 minute funny loop
- Kevin Marks
beautiful Steve...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not till they straighten out the app store download issues
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Killer? Everyone can see you ?
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Tailor made for Scoble!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I do that. I scroll thru Scoble's contacts
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
Until they bury me
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
there was a custom made one for scoble last SXSW http://www.isscobleinthisroom.com/
- Kevin Marks
Steve looks fetching today... don't you think?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Klik (by Face.com)
- Nir Ben Yona
"We last saw Scoble 136km away from you, 8 hours ago." Phew. We're safe.
- Alex de Soto
oh, great... where our house is?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
this show sounds nasty today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
robert's mic is less good than usual
- Kevin Marks
systems like this would be invaluable at places like trade shows.
- Jerry Schuman
Im gettin a little tired of Foursquare
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I liked foursquare last week when all my friends did sxsw tips of mine
- Kevin Marks
I go to Home Depot a LOT. You wouldn't want to know how many times
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There were too many of these services to gain critical mass and break out at SxSW. Everyone I talked to about social discovery apps at the event laughed and said they weren't using them.
- Evan Prodromou
Think about extending the system to support brands. You get within 100 yards of a geo-fenced brand location and it sends you collateral etc...
- Jerry Schuman
a drinking two shot.... I never did that before
- Tina Chase Gillmor
a well distributed scraping swarm of compromised mobile devices
- Jerome Hughes
really.. this isn't a Leo Laporte produced show... schedule? what the hell is that...
- Jerry Schuman
I don't know whether I will use a social discovery app; I might not want to be interruprted by someone who is 100 yards from me and wants to chat
- Francine Hardaway
http://hipswitch.com/ <-- somebody's got it
- Evan Prodromou
Highlight ("Hipswitch") would be overwhelming in high population density locations like Manhattan or D.C. Less so in a place like Alaska, unless moose start using social networks.
- Alex de Soto
If that happens and brands start to send me collateral I will scream, Jerry
- Francine Hardaway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... <-- I assume Steve's thinking about this town
- Evan Prodromou
foursquare gives you the choice
- Kevin Marks
day after #cloudstock feeling slightly tender (long day, longer night)
- cliveb
Francine: you're wrong about that. Highlight was used by a LOT of people at SXSW. You only need a small percentage to make it useful.
- Robert Scoble
francine can't be wrong about herself, robert
- Kevin Marks
Ping...
- Jerry Schuman
I bet they'll take longer than Vic Gundotra
- Kevin Marks
And #SXSW isn't the ordinary use case
- Francine Hardaway
so the government doesnt have to be Big Brother... we do it for them... perfect!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Or even Phoenix
- Francine Hardaway
Dodgeball too
- Kevin Marks
And he took a J.O.B.
- Francine Hardaway
New iPad
- Francine Hardaway
Fake coverage of Foxconn.
- Nir Ben Yona
On This American Life
- Francine Hardaway
cant keep Scoble's audio up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
TweetMap on Android from Staircase 3. map of local tweets, I like
- Da
Is anyone else annoyed with the new @YouTube layout? Moderator removed :(
- cliveb
" just opening up an API would pollute the stream"
- Kevin Marks
I have a blog post about why Google+ has no posting API: http://evanprodromou.name/2011... . tl;dr they require that you be _present_ in order to post, to keep the quality of the conversation high. Lesson learned from Buzz.
- Evan Prodromou
I love the conversations on Google+. I am meeting new people and getting comments, and seeing/reading my friends.
- Francine Hardaway
YouTube designers seemingly removed social engagement... perhaps G+ will be back-fitted...
- cliveb
+evan prodromou, that's good to know.
- Francine Hardaway
lesson mis-learned from buzz
- Kevin Marks
StatusNet!
- Evan Prodromou
Facebook is my public network- there's people on my FB that I wished I didn't add, but now I "can't" remove. G+ is my private network with people I'm close to.
- Da
Da: why can't you remove them? I removed thousands over the years from Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
the drama would be huge if I removed then, ie my annoying uncle for example
- Da
two Kevins!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
LOL Kevin
- Jerome Hughes
Da: ok, there are other ways to hide those folks, then. Mark them as an acquaintance, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
Google does not pay attention to detail and they dont listen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey fellas
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert's social neutered YT layout http://www.youtube.com/user...
- cliveb
See ya, Robert
- Rocky Barbanica
So my uncle's daughter, my kinda favorite cousin, will see posts intended for her but not him. He'll eventually find out / hear about it., bla bla bla- it's a mess. Better to just start over with a new network
- Da
12
- Rocky Barbanica
I don't see the point in getting the LTE version. 5GB? That's one HD movie!
- Stephen Pickering
I think I'm back now.
- Robert Scoble
Google+ is awesome... this just came across my stream.
- Jerry Schuman
'KONY 2012' HONCHO JASON RUSSELL Detained for Allegedly Masturbating in Public
- Jerry Schuman
famous last words
- Rocky Barbanica
Loren Feldman is having a field day
- Jerry Schuman
that's been on twitter for 30 minutes, Jerry. It's trending
- Kevin Marks
and it's free there, though not on iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
I've been distracted...
- Jerry Schuman
and waved his camera around
- Jerome Hughes
and it ..........
- Rocky Barbanica
the good news is…
- Jerome Hughes
who's going to go register http://hipswit.ch ?
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer, frozen like a Rodin sculpture.
- cliveb
LOL
- Rocky Barbanica
I have the Verizon Galaxy Nexus, 4G grandfathered to unlimited is awesome, Netflix in my pocket is the best
- Da
Hey Steve - Tina
- Rocky Barbanica
hey Rocky
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What about apps that don't support the new Retina display? Heard they look bad.
- Nir Ben Yona
iPad is great like the Model T Ford is great - any color, as long as you get black. Got an Android Asus EEE Slider tablet because it has a slider keyboard. Can't get that choice from Apple, so they don't get my business.
- Kevin Bryan
Where is Google's flagship Tablet, ...Nexus gOne...
- cliveb
Keeping my iPad1 from hearing all this chatter about the new iPad...could cause domestic issues
- Jim Posner
Benchmark results are great, compared to ASUS Transformer Prime http://aol.it/yHGTb7
- Nir Ben Yona
have you gor readability on it yet?
- Kevin Marks
Does it say hotspot?
- Rocky Barbanica
only on Verizon... does he have Verizon?
- Jerry Schuman
I have a verizon hotspot already
- Kevin Marks
it'd be nice to have one with an iPad's battery life though
- Kevin Marks
Switchcam and WeVideo
- Rocky Barbanica
does this work on new iPad yet? http://sunglass.io/#democanvas
- Kevin Marks
WeVideo rocks
- Rocky Barbanica
saw a case for Air this week that looks like a vintage book
- Jerome Hughes
Windows + Steam means the PC will not die any time soon at all. Too much investment from gamers in their rigs.
- Kevin Bryan
Drift: an iPad app for GitHub https://github.com/blog...
- cliveb
Jon Taschek go to general/network/personalhotspot and then turn on over wifi
- Francine Hardaway
Can't wait for it to die
- Francine Hardaway
Thank you, Francine!
- John Taschek
not quite understanding that death & dying thing
- Jerome Hughes
Need Github to not carry MBP
- cliveb
Some folks like the larger real estate of the PC screen
- Jim Posner
Have an AIR, but now have a Stylus for new iPad so won't need to carry Air
- Francine Hardaway
wow, FriendFeed is still up?
- Jamie
What's it called, Kevin?
- Rocky Barbanica
Use a mirroring display with your iPad. I do that at Gangplank
- Francine Hardaway
Fake it with your fingers?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
euphemisms
- Jerome Hughes
Hi Rocky. Love you. You come to Phoenix with Robert and use our video studio!
- Francine Hardaway
Love u too, Francine! ALWAYS
- Rocky Barbanica
Francine saves the day.....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tina. And I'm a grandmother, too. Everyone puts us mature people down, but we know shit
- Francine Hardaway
upsells for logic pro
- Jerome Hughes
who leapfrogs tablets forward next. Google, Microsoft, Apple...
- cliveb
Damn, I did use up my first 2GBs of Verizon. Updated my account.
- Robert Scoble
cliveb … rhetorical?
- Jerome Hughes
strange how Samsung puts Apples displays together yet their consumer electronics arm cant come close to either the iPhone display or this..
- Jamie
Oakland-area VZW LTE doing great today
- Da
Robert, that is HILARIOUS!
- Francine Hardaway
Scobleizer frozy like Rodin c/o LTE
- cliveb
with extra dropouts!
- Jerome Hughes
OMG!
- Francine Hardaway
Damn! Looks like Tweetbot guys were right.
- Nir Ben Yona
@jerome black swan!
- cliveb
15 GB of VZW LTE for February on my GNex
- Da
marketing ploy
- Rocky Barbanica
kevin it says my browser doesnt support it when i try with the ipad
- Jamie
Yahoo? Patents? Facebook? Did they get covered?
- Evan Prodromou
no, didn't mention those - we should
- Kevin Marks
nothing too demanding
- Jerome Hughes
this was the funniest situation. Think how the non technical people feel about all this!
- Francine Hardaway
maybe we can cover patents next week
- Kevin Marks
I'd love to hear about patents next week as well.
- Kevin Bryan
the issue isn't going away
- Kevin Marks
npimh Lene Lovich
- Jerome Hughes
Good to see you back Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
Great show, though!
- Evan Prodromou
it was fun
- nchenga
Oh my Gosh... fun show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
cya
- Nir Ben Yona
+1 "maybe we can cover patents next week - Kevin Marks"
- cliveb
thanks francine
- Kevin Marks
np on 12" vinyl… New Toy
- Jerome Hughes
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- Robert Scoble
I think I have a feeling about the theme for today's show.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you forgot iPad. :P
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Jimminy: Apple covers both iPad and Apple TV.
- Robert Scoble
The old adventures of new iPad.
- Eric - 100% Choice Cuts
We are trying to get everyone online. I'm on.
- Robert Scoble
Has anyone heard about a new iPad? Can't remember the name ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir: yeah, the name is wacky.
- Robert Scoble
Sooo strange. There must be a reason for that.
- Nir Ben Yona
I know Steve will tell me why Im wrong but it just seems like an iPad, no? The New Apps are nice but not selling me to go out and buy one or feel bad I bought a 2 in Sept last year! Why am I wrong?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Discussion point: Lack of killer feature (I don't see display as killer) give Android Tablets a chance to catch up!
- Phillip Molly Malone
The HD display is definitely a game changer.
- Nir Ben Yona
the IOS 5.1 update changes the logo to 4G
- Jerry Schuman
oh dear God
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, crud. I accidentally hung up
- Robert Scoble
Danny is correct...
- Jerry Schuman
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Correct... their marketing calls HSDPA+ a 4G connection
- Jerry Schuman
So what can you do on HD iPad I can't do on iPad 2 without crippling the software the way Apple have with Siri? By the way, if you answer with anything, doesn't that mean that Apple just caused Fragmentation in the iPad community? Or is now that choice! (yes, that is an Android/Apple/Koolaide jibe)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Oh, the Apple TV dropped the ball not having Apps! This is the year of Google TV baby! (I hope ;-) )
- Phillip Molly Malone
BTW the guys over at The Verge are saying the European version has LTE support. http://vrge.co/zeNYgh
- Nir Ben Yona
iPad as a consumable
- Jerry Schuman
Philip: you're wrong. AirPlay is the killer app.
- Robert Scoble
Agree with Rober that Airplay is the killer app.
- Jerry Schuman
3.1 million pixels
- Nir Ben Yona
AirPlay is a great and I may get it but as someone said, its just an adapter! Was thinking that I only use my PC upstairs as a TV now (Media Center). I would replace PC with Google TV! Apps overlaying TV killer. I want a Fantasy AFL app to overlay the Football coverage!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Print to PDF is the New Printer!
- Phillip Molly Malone
iPhoto for iPad is pretty impressive, isn't that a killer app as well ?
- Euro Maestro
Go on John, Get a funny engraving!
- Phillip Molly Malone
the thing I noticed the most on this announcement was that I never heard the phrase "reality distortion field" once in the twitterverse
- Jerry Schuman
iPhoto looks great but I get that on the iPad 2, right?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Just updated my existing Apple TV. Interface changes applied. Dictation available on the iPhone 4s not on the iPad2 (boo!)must need a new chip. Will test Downton Abbey stream to the iPad2 from iTunes later tonight.
- Alex de Soto
I am not saying the New iPad isn't great, it is. But it isn't making me sad I got a iPad 2 in September. I would have hated myself if I got an iPad 1 in September before the iPad 2 was released!
- Phillip Molly Malone
If you're buying a new iPad, I'd recommend the 64GB WiFi model so you can shoot video and edit aplenty.
- Alex de Soto
Speaking of iPads, does any one know if there is a way to watch or listen to this from an iPad ?
- Euro Maestro
@euro isn't there a uStream app?
- Phillip Molly Malone
I didn't get an iPad 2, so upgrading from a iPad 1 to an iPad 3 is a big speed upgrade.
- Phil Windley
9 hours on 4G :)
- Nir Ben Yona
steve makes me get the upgrades whether I like it or not
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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- Ben Kepes
GarageBand is the number one reason to upgrade.
- John Taschek
haha. Thats crap Robert! What Ben said!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Boys boys boys “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
- Ben Kepes
Who cares what the book looks like, you should be listening to it on Audible anyway!
- Phillip Molly Malone
iPad envy.
- Alex de Soto
So we are going to see iPad Fragmenation Robert?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Flifboard? I thought they were in the deadpool already.... Oh maybe that was cuil.... whatevers...
- Ben Kepes
agree about the high resolution screen, going on how much I love it on the phone.
- Hilary Talbot
Philiip: yes. Ben: Flipboard is the best app for iPad and Apple named it app of the year in 2010.
- Robert Scoble
I want to know what the audio components are --- the iPad has been only slightly above average so far.
- John Taschek
yeah yeah yeah/.// someone put koolaide in your coffee ;-)
- Ben Kepes
Tweetbot just tweeted a very interesting thing: "With 4G speeds you can theoretically hit your monthly limit in ~30 secs for the $15 plan and about 10 minutes for the $50 plan."
- Nir Ben Yona
what?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Nir: I never hit my 3G limit even with the kids watching YouTube videos. I guess we'll see.
- Robert Scoble
The ability to edit (trash photos) from the Photo Stream is one of the best features in iOS 5.1. That was one of the most frustrating things about the iCloud.
- Alex de Soto
Definitely worth looking at.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hey Scoble - Graham Weston is on Glancee as well
- Ben Kepes
If you think the NY times has an issue with the Google Privacy Policy, what are the going to say about Highlight?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Android apps a almost always distant, dim relations to what is found on iPhone.
- Phil Windley
yeah I'm here John
- Ben Kepes
Android has a killer app now iOS doesn't: Chrome! That this is pretty! (tongue slightly in my cheek)
- Phillip Molly Malone
I love Danny!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I think old Windows users tend to look for an alternative to Apple just because. Android has taken Microsoft's spot as the yang to Apple's ying.
- Alex de Soto
You can do screen shots on the iPad and then edit in iPhoto.
- Alex de Soto
I could use my iPad to swat flies but doesn't mean its easy or a good idea! (unless there is an App for that I don't know about)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hooking up a projector to the iPad makes presentations a breeze. No need to cart around a laptop.
- Alex de Soto
Can't believe there hasn't been a rant about the naming convention for "the new" iPad
- Jerry Schuman
There wasn't much to the iPad to talk about!
- Phillip Molly Malone
The Verge got a DDos attack during the keynote event.
- Nir Ben Yona
Twitter continued to serve up tweets about the event at a much greater rate that the live blogs. Scale.
- Phil Windley
As an Aussie, it makes me sad that your talking about Netflix! :(
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hey - as a Kiwi I can't get Netflix either....
- Ben Kepes
Apple is already rolling out Retina Display apps. iTunes U and Keynote just got the updates.
- Jerry Schuman
Airplay and 1080P are the two reasons I'm getting a second AppleTV for the living room.
- Alex de Soto
But didn't the old AppleTV already have AirPlay?
- Phillip Molly Malone
Phillip: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Phillip: Yes it does but it does not handle 1080P as far as I can tell.
- Alex de Soto
My original AppleTV has Airplay.. not the little black box one
- Jerry Schuman
Don't need content deals, GoogleTV hookes into your HDMI cable box!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Add overlay apps that that and you got something!
- Phillip Molly Malone
size matters?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google TV is due for a comeback.
- Vezquex
Downton Abbey Season 2 is only available on iTunes no?
- Alex de Soto
I don't think most of the world has the amount of online TV content that the US has. I know Australia doesn't! Apps and Websites!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Roku is on the clearance rack at my local Walmart
- Jerry Schuman
Other than on Blu-ray, where else can one stream 1080P?
- Alex de Soto
Can you call back? Sorry.
- Robert Scoble
Haha... John is rocking back and forward like he just wants the voices in his head to stop! ;-)
- Phillip Molly Malone
@Alex - my TV streams 1080p all the time Free over the air! ;-)
- Phillip Molly Malone
Hulu+ has an app on iPad! So what's the issue?
- Jerry Schuman
Sorry, I think I got a good connection again. Tina, can you call me back?
- Robert Scoble
working on it Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
over the air is 1080i
- Vezquex
ahhh Robert is back
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd like to move where Phillip lives as 1080p is not available over the air where I live. It's more like 1080i60 encoded with MPEG-2.
- Alex de Soto
Hey Danny, Why did no one mention @ based searches in Google showing Twitter first change? (or am I just in a special search experiment group)?
- Phillip Molly Malone
gray the studio cat is throwing himself against the door!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google doesn't need regular TV shows. They run YouTube!
- Vezquex
Okay.It might not be 1080p but its good enough!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Vezquex. Exactly.
- Robert Scoble
So who is causing that reaction from Gray?
- Phillip Molly Malone
No Robert didn't! He said everybody had Apple TVs!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I think most people learn about and buy Roku from its partnetship with Netflix. Don't have one but my brother and parents have it and love it for Netflix.
- Amyloo
Gray is a very social cat. When he hears voices he gets excited and wants to hang out
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple is about an "experience", hardware is the means to end. It is what separates Apple from everyone else.
- Jerry Schuman
Tina, I have a voice-activated cat, too. She goes especially nuts if anybody dares to sing!
- Amyloo
Oh, I thought he wanted out of this conversation in the worst way in much the say way John looked like he wanted out a few minutes ago!
- Phillip Molly Malone
amy - funny
- Tina Chase Gillmor
One of our cat will continue to stand in front of my monitor until I feed her in the morning!
- Phillip Molly Malone
Apple’s press conference showed a brand unraveling - http://venturebeat.com/2012...
- Phillip Molly Malone
Danny and Scoble really make this show a scream!
- Alex de Soto
By the way, that wasn't me agreeing with that article just thought it might interest this crowd!
- Phillip Molly Malone
quit losing your damn remotes
- Vezquex
Vezquex: you obviously don't have young kids if you say that. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Apple needs an App called "Find My Remote."
- Alex de Soto
Maybe the coming soon is TV content network?
- Amyloo
Apple TV flatscreen will appear this year. iPhone 5 will see the light of day by the end of the year. Full refresh on Macbook and desktop lines..
- Jerry Schuman
Amen Robert and Alex! Its called iPod Touch as remote! Our "cable style box" has iPod based remote and that works for everything except turning the dam thing on and there is no on button! D'oh!
- Phillip Molly Malone
That isn't the point... I can access the content. I can even display it on the 50" tv via AirPlay. I don't get the point.
- Jerry Schuman
That was perfect "The role of flash..."
- Phil Windley
People have jailbroken the AppleTV to play Hulu: http://www.google.com/url...
- Alex de Soto
Nobody cares about broadcast television. That's the real truth.
- Jerry Schuman
I don't get it, there's an hulu app for ipad and you can airplay it on TV http://bit.ly/cDtQjH
- Nir Ben Yona
Apple buys Roku. End of argument. Just to put them out of their misery Robert.
- Alex de Soto
You can watch TED on Roku
- Tracy Sheridan
i think John Taschek has fallen asleep with his eyes open.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple wanted higher margins than Hulu would allow.
- Vezquex
I love this! Thanks guys.
- Teri Temme
just checked my blood pressure. Thankfully, I can keep watching.
- Jerry Schuman
HBO GO and Cinemax apps do not work with Apple TV including airplay.
- Ryan
Oh well. Have to go. Wife is fixing some green mango thai salad and i"m starved (EST).
- Alex de Soto
Alex: my battery is almost dead. See ya!
- Robert Scoble
Watching the show live via airplay on TV!
- Ryan
Ryan: exactly!
- Robert Scoble
But I can't watch Game of Thrones. They need to make those deals soon.
- Ryan
Funny fact: TED has given all 2012 speakers a Roku device as a gift :)
- Nir Ben Yona
Nir: cool. When I went to TED they gave me a Android phone.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Nir Ben Yona
Who remembers Jason's parodies of Steve's ad pitches?
- Ryan
Great show. Until next time!
- Nir Ben Yona
thanks everyone... how fun... the chatroom always makes it great
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ryan, I remember
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ha trying to find my apple tv remote...funny enough!
- Ryan
Thanks Tina, so many good times listening/watching the Gillmor Gang.
- Ryan
Downloading an Apple TV update. Anyone know whether it includes the new GUI?
- Ryan
Looks like that is the case from what I'm reading on engadget.
- Ryan
again thanks everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keep heart Danny...
- Todd Hoff
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Gillmor Gang - John Borthwick, Robert Scoble, John Taschek, Doc Searls, and Steve Gillmor . Recording live at 1pm PT.
- Steve Gillmor
Hanging out waiting for the call.
- Robert Scoble
what did I miss? What is being demo'd?
- Kenny
hmm, there are no ads on those articles... the content providers can't be too pleased
- Stephen M
news.me
- Stephen M
Foxnation.com has had "reactions" for about a year or so
- Stephen M
Ooh, did ya'll hear the good news! Chevy Volt production has been suspended!
- Stephen M
Stephen - Yeah I was just reading about that..laying off people as well, right?
- Kenny
well its temporary layoffs.. but i'm wondering if those workers will still get paid since its a union
- Stephen M
I have a question about the News.me, do the comments you make in news.me show up on the articles "home" website?
- Stephen M
Stephen: pretty clear that the answer is "mostly no."
- Robert Scoble
Facebook comments!
- Stephen M
that makes sense.
- Stephen M
Do news websites have the oppurtunity to put ads on the articles in the news.me app?
- Stephen M
ah.. i prefer to leave comments on the providers site.. some sites have better conversation than i'd have in a silo.. example-a comment left on Wsj.com would get better convo than somewhere else about the article.
- Stephen M
I doubt they have thought that through very far. They need to get to millions of users first. Flipboard is way ahead here.
- Robert Scoble
France? the same france that said Google can't offer Google maps for free because it hurts a company that charges. hehe
- Stephen M
I think we have a show title.. Invasion of the body snatchers!
- Stephen M
death to DRM
- Stephen M
Pretty Big news: When you log out of Facebook you will now get an ad... first advertiser: Bing!
- Stephen M
wow 37 million people log out of facebook eachday.. 105 million a month.. For now those users will get a Full recreation of the Bing Homepage
- Stephen M
I just logged out of Facebook and didn't get an ad. sob.
- Robert Scoble
lol Techcrunch reported i thought it was true ;)
- Stephen M
hm, Myspace Music is awesome... i use it as my source for listening to music now.. 42 million free songs!
- Stephen M
awesome moment from Doc Searls "all companies are closed systems -- that's the problem. companies are closed systems. companies die, but cities thrive because their networked."
- Brian Hendrickson
/their/they're/
- Brian Hendrickson
This is pretty interesting: Group’s $5 Million Buy Targets Social Media - Washington Wire - WSJ http://on.wsj.com/xefUaQ
- Stephen M
Amazon Video gives you a discount if you buy a season in advance...itunes doesnt
- Stephen M
Artists want to sell albums because most times only 1 to 3 songs are good on an album, forcing u to pay $15 for just those
- Stephen M
I didnt know foursquare used Google maps.. the version of foursquare i use, used Bing Maps.
- Stephen M
bye
- Stephen M
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Ustream a little choppy for anyone else?
- Aron Michalski
im seeing some latency
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so it's just you Aron ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It figures...or them gamer kids down the block crushing my bandwidth...
- Aron Michalski
I hope so. All the service they've given me, it's certainly time for me to give back...
- Aron Michalski
John Borthwick can you tip your screen up?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I wonder what the service that curates news.me conversations will be called.
- Hilary Talbot
news.you&others...
- Aron Michalski
Similar enterprise network - Yammer ($85mn?)
- cliveb
;)
- Hilary Talbot
Push is track with Apple clothes on ;-)
- Aron Michalski
Aron I think you might be right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
or just 2012 track
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They sure are.
- Francine Hardaway
Everything about blogs is broken: comments, links, etc
- Francine Hardaway
WebSockets (socket.io) and Node.js to push notifications?
- cliveb
Robert is getting to know himself
- Francine Hardaway
He's pulling while we talk about push.
- Aron Michalski
All software. Freshbooks, Evernote,
- Francine Hardaway
I license my house now, too.
- Francine Hardaway
Doc's: Edging toward the fully licensed world http://me.lt/7Ibaa
- cliveb
Agreed. Everybody has built their worlds on other people's platforms
- Francine Hardaway
family, Steve does not talk with his hand. Kinda wish he did
- Tina Chase Gillmor
People are running out of time in this Pushy world. Gotta aggregate and make it fast nowadays.
- Aron Michalski
what happened to the beginning of my comment? what I meant to say is, unlike people in my family, Steve does not talk with his hands
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I thought you were referring to his puppetry career.
- Aron Michalski
you know what I mean....
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Me neither. I want to subscribe, and then be free to cancel
- Francine Hardaway
Doc is great. It usually gets down to a few simple points that are timeless.
- Aron Michalski
Scoble - living in the next world
- Tina Chase Gillmor
:-)
- Francine Hardaway
very id of Scoble. "I have an impulse and want it satisfied"
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ask any business traveller what connectivity is about; paying for hotel internet, finding free access points, delivering your mortgage to your telco every month...
- Aron Michalski
how true Aron. You should know ;)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Granular consumption licences plz
- cliveb
finding a way to provide us with a connection to our infostream and maximize the connection is really important. There's no time to accidentally find important news.
- Aron Michalski
I like having books too. But I'm realizing I use them VERY little now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I used to like having books, and then I started moving every couple of years, and I got rid of them. Everything I've ever read is now digitized.
- Francine Hardaway
Doc or Steve, which one of you wants to debate Scoble at the Arizona Entrepreneurship Conference? 10/30. Come on down:-)
- Francine Hardaway
This is becoming TV or Not TV..
- Aron Michalski
is the argument maybe just about tangible and intangible items
- Tina Chase Gillmor
but do those black holes contain large licensed or copyrighted pieces of content like books and movies?
- Laura Norvig
Lets chip in and get Borthwick a lighting source.
- Aron Michalski
You mean a bulb?
- Francine Hardaway
And a fixture and a cable. Let's not cheap out.
- Aron Michalski
Aron, I was just looking around the studio to see if I could find that album. Found Martian's Space Party
- Tina Chase Gillmor
IKEA, FTW
- Francine Hardaway
John knows Tumblr killing Facebook for highly social demographic 15-30.
- cliveb
I have them both. TVONTV is like DNA for me. The charger card slot for watching, the bandwidth pirates, the inability to know when realtime is/was...
- Aron Michalski
Where's Kevin Marks? He was talking about identity systems and who would win in this space three years ago
- Francine Hardaway
His dad passed, he's in the UK.
- Aron Michalski
enough of this online social shit. Let's have more live parties
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin will be back with us next week. We are all thinking of him and his family
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. I will reach out.
- Francine Hardaway
That's because Telcos are inherently part of a "Crony" Capitalism type of arrangement, and not a Pure Capitalism environment
- Stephen Pickering
New Captial, from "White Holes" won't flow to highly regulated environments, which are "false vacuums"
- Stephen Pickering
Facebook's an interest restricting social graph, compare to Tumblr.
- cliveb
Steve hand is moving. Someone take a picture
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's a phantom touchscreen control gesture...
- Aron Michalski
Beatles... everyone take a drink
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i only drink when Scoble waves a product in the camera...I'm usually pretty smashed.
- Aron Michalski
This could be one big drinking game if we drank whenever anyone did their customary tics
- Francine Hardaway
A city is a place for people, but it doesn't feed and entertain them. Companies do that.
- Laura Norvig
we'd get pretty damn drunk Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That's because Apple, Amazon, Facebook operate in a total free market, so they have to be productive and competitive. AT&T and Comcast have no incentive to innovate
- Stephen Pickering
he doesn't get into Winer that much anymore
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Santorum's a Theocrat
- Stephen Pickering
Tina nailed G+ strength and weakness. No partying.
- cliveb
Romney wants a 25% tarriff on China which is worse for the economy than Obamacare
- Stephen Pickering
I smell NGL...\
- Aron Michalski
Steve wishes he could do NewsGang Live again
- Francine Hardaway
I know all these boys so well by now:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Steve's a little irritated with me today. Says I'm missing some shot due to my new monitor... whatever
- Tina Chase Gillmor
shots
- Tina Chase Gillmor
NGL NGL NGL
- Francine Hardaway
Rush Limbaugh the musician
- Francine Hardaway
I really would like to crush that guy... Rush
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think I'm gonna start calling him a whore
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh good. MadMen is coming back
- Francine Hardaway
Just finished Deadwood on HBOGo
- Aron Michalski
I am renting Mad Men. Or licensing it, or whatever
- Francine Hardaway
Is MadMen on HBO? Bravo? I forget
- Francine Hardaway
I watched 5 seasons of 30 Rock in a week or two, same for Larry Sanders
- Stephen Pickering
he will not wait for MadMen
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Romney is to polishing the silver upstairs what Rush Limbaugh is to splashing in the latrines downstairs.
- cliveb
Everybody drink.
- Aron Michalski
Robert can't hang with real life.
- Aron Michalski
@Moe Glitz Why? Where's the need?
- Francine Hardaway
It is weird how these companies are becoming Vertically integrated but that's because the price of techonology keeps halving every 12-18 months.
- Stephen Pickering
I take that back.
- Aron Michalski
do the benefits outweigh the risks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
non-reaction reaction shots...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't that FOursquare +Highlight?
- Francine Hardaway
Even the speed of innovation is increasing
- Stephen Pickering
Negative gesture video switching...
- Aron Michalski
From your lips to God's ears, Moe:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Google Maps not charging for lumpy bursts.
- cliveb
Is there a Rumor that Office will be announced for the iPad?
- Stephen Pickering
Yes, there's a rumor to that effect, Stephen
- Francine Hardaway
ive heard that as well
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And that Bill Gates may announce it? Or did I dream that part?
- Stephen Pickering
Making 13 billion every Quarter, they can close a lot!
- Stephen Pickering
The "environment" the "frontiers" are like the Quantum Foam, which ultimately makes everything go, give it energy
- Stephen Pickering
thanks everybody.
- Aron Michalski
thanks for Aron thanking everyone!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OLD: Mail2FF Tutorial - http://www.vimeo.com/1190377
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SUPER BUMP!
- AJ Batac ('_')
OLD: FriendFeed Tour - http://www.vimeo.com/1348436
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Gillmor Gang Enterprise, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Who's the gang this week?
- Aron Michalski
I'm in the gang
- Kevin Marks
Hi Kevin, good deal.
- Aron Michalski
GG G+ Hangout testing soon...
- cliveb
I'm here.
- Robert Scoble
calling u now Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
next Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ready to rumble?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ipad ustreaming to appletv - anyone else try watching GG live like this?
- Ankush Narula
How is your tooth Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
I just put up a 3D video of 3D manfacturing at the World Economic Forum: https://plus.google.com/1110910...
- Robert Scoble
500hats~! 500FiretrUCKs
- cliveb
And will I get dizzy watching it?
- Francine Hardaway
try calling me back, looks like skypes dumped me down to 3 fps
- Kevin Marks
isn't the 3d backwards compatible (ie it uses fields on final cut)
- Kevin Marks
Francine: you can watch it in 3D.
- Robert Scoble
how does it look Ankush?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin: no. Doesn't work.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: my new camera records separate 1080i videos. Has two separate cameras.
- Robert Scoble
ah, I see
- Kevin Marks
Gray, our studio cat, is in love with mimi. They did not get thrown outside today, therefore they are running around and making noise. Thanks cats!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't get the big deal about apps, survey after survey shows that most people ignore them(on mobile) Consumers ignore most apps on their smartphones – USATODAY.com http://usat.ly/y20Sr1
- Stephen M
Collections of polyglot web apps make lock down inevitable (Heroku)
- cliveb
Stephen: absolutely false. That data is simply not right and is provably so.
- Robert Scoble
thats a pew survey.. reputable
- Stephen M
if this doesn't wrok, I'll go get an ethernet cable
- Kevin Marks
Change just comes much more slowly than anyone expects. People don't whip into apps on the desktop if they already have what they think is a satisfactory solution,
- Francine Hardaway
looks somewhat better Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
didn't someone make that app last year? http://isscobleinthisroom.com/
- Kevin Marks
Davie Morin's Tumblr http://bit.ly/wNJHDA
- cliveb
...aand now the jet noise starts...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
can you mute me round i or shoudl I? I think it's a prop plane
- Kevin Marks
Tina: it looks great - we need to get to HD so I can see Steve's individual whiskers
- Ankush Narula
Kevin: yeah, but that was a hack using Twitter's location. It rarely worked right. Highlight works very accurately.
- Robert Scoble
Polyglot enterprise web apps make sandboxing a good thing, w/o no x-collection privacy security.
- cliveb
Ankush, you do not want that!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
'Capability based security' is what you want rather than sandboxing
- Kevin Marks
was PATH available in Europe yet?
- Stephen M
Tina: I've fashioned my own white beard to pay tribute to him
- Ankush Narula
Stephen: I believe it was.
- Robert Scoble
the way Europe is about privacy i wonder if they will get in trouble over there for this address book problem
- Stephen M
ankush ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andy Baio was warning about OAuth in Wired, which is blaming the wrong piece of the stack
- Kevin Marks
Lazy Fare FTW...
- Aron Michalski
tina - check your @mentions
- Ankush Narula
I don't think what Path did was all that bad.. I mean, you are using a mobile device, and the cell phone provider has to know where you are, who you are calling... you care about privacy, use a can and some string
- Stephen M
Ankush - looks nice indeed!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks for the peak
- Tina Chase Gillmor
maybe you should publish your setup featuring your favorite show, of course! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
will do
- Ankush Narula
Cool side note stat: 360,500 texts are sent every second from Nokia phones
- Stephen M
i think by installing social apps like fourSquare, Path, Highlight - you're implicitly opting in
- Ankush Narula
exactly
- Stephen M
there should certainly be disclosures about how your data is used up front - and there should be an option to delete your data - facebook sync for iphone was doing this - and then on their website they let you delete the synced data
- Ankush Narula
Stephen - is that a lot?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sounds like it...just for one brand... of course the service providers only see $$$
- Stephen M
Android intents, web intents are better than iOS model
- Kevin Marks
Windows 8 allows apps to talk to each other
- Stephen M
stephen: very true
- Ankush Narula
I watched online!
- Stephen M
the online experience was very nice
- Stephen M
Superbowl is tiny compared to the World cup final
- Kevin Marks
or even cricket
- Kevin Marks
Why don't they use the chat room that is attached to Ustream?
- Stephen M
FF is not dead yet, it was only a flesh wound
- Todd Hoff
Stephen: because.
- Robert Scoble
NBC Press Release about Superbowl viewer stats: http://www.nbcumv.com/mediavi...
- Ankush Narula
Stephen M: iOS apps can talk to each other through the cloud. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Steve has a cold and it makes his voise deeper and louder.... hard to control
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow 4.5 million streamed the super bowl online
- Stephen M
I need to admit that my former guilty pleasure "all My Children" is still missed by me. And I bare a crudge against ABC still
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it was powered by Silverlight
- Stephen M
NCIS has a great social media presence... a lot of the actors are on twitter, and tweet during the episode, or provide behind the scenes pics of episodes they are shooting
- Stephen M
crugde = grudge
- Tina Chase Gillmor
3D is so bogus
- Kevin Marks
fishtank video
- Kevin Marks
extreme close up, nerd version...
- Aron Michalski
no one would watch it on CNN anyway
- Stephen M
Robert has found the loudest, most boomy room to broadcast from
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin: it's very clear you weren't at CES and didn't look at the new OLED screens. They were AMAZING in 3D.
- Robert Scoble
my boys have been through arrested development that way
- Kevin Marks
The Hour really was excellent.
- Hilary Talbot
CBS and American Idol are making me want to watch their shows "Live"... the behind the scenes tweeting is really nice for their shows
- Stephen M
Kevin: I listed to an interview with Chris Columbus, the movie producer behind Harry Potter and he totally disagrees with you about 3D. Interesting that this argument is happening in lots of places.
- Robert Scoble
goodness, dump the dvd drive,
- cliveb
Chris Columbus, ohhh i didn't know u were that old ;)
- Stephen M
Stephen: different Columbus: http://www.imdb.com/name... is who I'm talking about. :-)
- Robert Scoble
ah the election... Republican primaries have been very interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he, i know.
- Stephen M
3D works when you have a very big screen that fills your visual field. without that it is a fishtank that reduces suspension fo disbelief as you can see the edges
- Kevin Marks
GetGlue does that
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: hold your computer closer to your face! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Android at Home?
- Stephen M
One good thing about the DNC coming to town, all the cell providers are improving their networks, or upgrading it!
- Stephen M
I prefer GetGlue.. you get real Stickers!
- Stephen M
motorola already ships loads of home entertainment boxes, and Google just bought them
- Kevin Marks
do you really care what other people are watching? particularly in the age of DVR?
- Ankush Narula
Highlight sounds a little like the flappers in Gulliver's Travels.
- Hilary Talbot
yes, because I can see them reating to it on twitter
- Kevin Marks
I do... some shows I have to watch when they air
- Stephen M
Steve + JP consumer web observations turns up in Chatter Timeline
- cliveb
I only watch sports live - maybe Daily Show or Colbert if I'm awake and home - otherwise it's pretty much all on demand
- Ankush Narula
Stephen - which ones? award shows, yes?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
was the superbowl in 3d?
- Kevin Marks
only in Indianapolis ;-)
- Ankush Narula
No.. most of the shows on CBS.. each has a member of the cast or crew tweeting little behind the scenes information... especially NCIS..
- Stephen M
i like that stuff.
- Stephen M
and I'm in the advertiser friendly Demo, so i guess its working lol
- Stephen M
stephen - it's true - that's a fun activity
- Ankush Narula
Can't wait for the Grammy's either
- Stephen M
oooh BTW "The Good Wife" is an excellent show to watch anyway
- Stephen M
yay G+
- cliveb
deadmau5!
- Stephen M
wow: Updated: More Adults 18-49 Watched Last Friday’s ‘Fringe’ Time-Shifted Than Live - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers http://bit.ly/wr4reR
- Stephen M
thanks to all!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 02.03.12 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2012...
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The Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor – are recording live at 1pm PT.
- Steve Gillmor
hello all
- Kevin Marks
I'm online there.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Kevin!
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, Steve says you aren't answering your Skype.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin - answer video ...
- John Taschek
John Battelle: http://battellemedia.com/archive...
- Robert Scoble
James Fallows: http://www.theatlantic.com/technol...
- Robert Scoble
Are you familiar with http://unhosted.org ?
- Itai Frenkel
Itai: nope, thanks.
- Robert Scoble
I wrote about it in my blog. It's a different business model for "free mobile apps".
- Itai Frenkel
In the future we will have algorithms that would extract the metadata from the data automatically. All the facebook "metadata" would be less a competitive advantage.
- Itai Frenkel
Gilmor - it could be backed up in the cloud, but still have different privacy settings (such as disallowing certain type of data mining)
- Itai Frenkel
Great show! I feel very rusty!
- Robert Scoble
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
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You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF!
- Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful！
- K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro.
- Louis Gray
Cool!
- Josh Haley
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret
- Ahsan Ali
Cool
- Nimaa
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice addition!
- Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Ac0n (former Franc)
That's a cool feature
- Xitong Liu
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I still get them.
- AJ Batac ('_')
I get these every day.
- Me
The Secret Behind The Real-Time Web - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is awesome!
- Christopher Chung
with a community like this - you just can't roll-it into f.b.. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
:O
- Josh Haley
Amazing, thanks for that!
- dkb
According to Ross, they used about 1030 individual pictures in the final version. Stop motion is a lot of work :)
- Bret Taylor
Sure, sure--give away all the secrets. (Are those Lego dudes union?)
- Kathy Fitch
very creative. wonder how long it took to do that stop-action?
- berchman
Ross's best work so far ! great job Ross
- goutham
Major props to Ross and Dan. FriendFeed lives on
- Shane
That's priceless. Great job, guys.
- John Craft
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
Great project!
- Anne Bouey
AWESOME!
- Kevin Fox
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That is so awesome
- Glenn Slaven
happy-making!
- Felicia Yue
I am more proud than ever for being a FriendFeeder :)
- Arvind
Wow!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
Excellent!!
- Kol Tregaskes
That's great!
- Devon Govett
Cool! The friendfeed's manufactury
- Benedetto Vacca
неплохо, неплохо! Продолжение будет?
- atner
Lots of handshaking I see :)
- Nicholas Kreidberg
hahaha very nice stop motion and music!
- Alex Huinchucleffy
BUMP
- Roberto Bonini
FULL OF WIN
- Jac Falcon
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :)
- joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea!
- Susan Beebe
Very cool =)
- FFing Enigma
Cool stuff.
- Mike Bracco
gr8
- حاج مهدی ©
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work.
- Fred Yankowski
more good stuff
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation
- directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader.
- Jesse Stay
great idea!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!!
- Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like.
- Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday.
- Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
fatma küfür istiyor
- Joan Miro
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it.
- Mark Trapp
very nice. great work!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-)
- Jesse Stay
nice!
- Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats!
- Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
from iPod
Nice progress here with this release!
- Micah
I love it!
- friday night
Why is wget questionable?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
cool : )
- Gurkan Oluc
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
doublepluslike
- Vezquex
curl FTW.
- Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone
- abdellah
from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed!
- EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key.
- Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version?
- Jesper Lind
More countries for iPhone
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6 countries today - goal 12 countries, strech goal 25
- MG Siegler
how'd we do
- MG Siegler
hey it's like risk :)
- MG Siegler
It's a small world playing
- MG Siegler
LOTS of countries
- MG Siegler
people clapping along to song
- MG Siegler
yes Latvia!
- MG Siegler
is that the annoying small world song?
- Frederic
I can has iPhone nao?
- Andre Heinrichs
35 and counting
- MG Siegler
44
- MG Siegler
50
- MG Siegler
Lalala. Something to hear...
- Andre Heinrichs
everywhere?
- Frederic
so many african countries
- MG Siegler
can anyone see if Colombia is in the list?
- felix
cheers for india australia
- MG Siegler
Please, people don't scream that loud.
- Andre Heinrichs
70 countries - huge
- MG Siegler
@felix - I've already seen a bunch in Colombia :)
- Frederic
I'm SOO waiting for September when this baby launches in India!
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
Did I hear 70 countries?
- Andre Heinrichs
@Frederic, ahh nice! When I went last year wasn't so good... Glad it'll be better next time! Hopefully AT&T makes some deals with them. :)
- felix
Crap, not yet in Israel... At least not here: http://www.apple.com/iphone...
- Eitan Burcat
@Subhasish Vodafone's press statement a couple of months back was generic w.r.t. SE Asia which was assumed to include India. Bharati made an official press release with Tim Cook that they will be launching in India in partnership. What puzzles me is the speeds that they will be able to support on their networks. popular high speed 3G technologies are CDMA based, UMTS & HSDPA: http://www.apple.com/pr... Though this was in the print edition of yesterdays BS, I can't find it online.
- Parth Awasthi
Considering that I am a very frequent user even with crappy GPRS speeds on my crummy (for browsing) SE; I will appreciate anything that is even trivially better.
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
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standby .... racking everyone up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert - you went offline?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry, crashed. Up now.
- Robert Scoble
google blocked themselves from search
- Kevin Marks
hang on though haven't they failed to rank for 'search engine'
- Kevin Marks
can they still put a 'download chrome' link on the home page?
- Kevin Marks
After all that discussion -- Steve's original question -- what does this really mean?
- Brian Sullivan
practically won? 25% of vote...
- Kevin Marks
Nothing practically is my guess.
- Brian Sullivan
CES.. it ain't what it used to be.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If John would sit up higher I could maybe get his name under him without cutting his mouth off ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I am not going to CES this year
- Francine Hardaway
YES
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's a fade out
- Kevin Marks
A crisis -- a RIM style crisis -- I think not.
- Brian Sullivan
Windows Use Slides 2% Per Year; Mobility May Wedge It Farther and Faster - Lens360 http://bit.ly/ywZ4KQ
- John Taschek
I wish we could stop talking about patent lawsuits
- Francine Hardaway
vinyl sales up 44% in the UK last year
- Kevin Marks
BPI figures: https://docs.google.com/spreads...
- Kevin Marks
Were we not doing the Gillmor Gang in ''89? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin is always outside!
- Laura Norvig
the dogs are barking inside
- Kevin Marks
Robert locked up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have to reboot. Be right back.
- Robert Scoble
Getting a new improved Robert up!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The cloud is eating TV - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- John Taschek
The first Friday of 2012 and weird stuff started happening to the gang ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
I'm back up.
- Robert Scoble
HBO says cord cutting is a “temporary phenomenon”, HBO Go to stay tied to cable | VentureBeat http://bit.ly/yda1FE
- Stephen M
BItTorrent launched a new app called Share
- Kevin Marks
PhotoMatix is amazing HDR software
- Susan Beebe
my hands are super cold today. not nimble enough
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay needs to be explained better, good point.
- Susan Beebe
it's OK John
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay needs to be accessible from the Mac Pro
- Francine Hardaway
I thought Kevin said two lapdogs in the same room, but he actually said laptops #british accent
- Francine Hardaway
hahah :D
- Susan Beebe
I have 2 lapdogs too
- Kevin Marks
Directv has twitter and facebook integrated into their guide
- Stephen M
:) but are they connected? lol
- Susan Beebe
i tried it once, and i annoyed the other people watching tv with me
- Stephen M
right stephen, more than one screen is important
- Kevin Marks
what about ubuntu tv?
- Alex Williams
when Scrabble did the 'iPad for the board and iphones for the tiles" thing, it was funny, but the idea of shared plus private is important
- Kevin Marks
there is talk about ubuntu tv getting launched at ces. can it make a play?
- Alex Williams
Ubuntu? u mean linux? the OS widely known for their outstanding UI?
- Stephen M
XBOX 360 with one of the LIve TV partners is a great way to watch TV.. you just talk to it
- Stephen M
Unity is the Ubuntu UI - hated by the faithful meant for the masses.
- Alex Williams
My 70 year old mom loves her ViZio with the built in Netflix..she doesn't have to switch inputs, just just presses the Netflix button on the remote
- Stephen M
did you see the Doctor Who Literal Video of Total Eclipse of the Heart?
- Kevin Marks
And this 70 year old mom likes her AppleTV with the built in Netflix. She has trained herself (pant pant) to switch inputs. Could it be easier, I suppose. Is it great as it is, Yes.
- Francine Hardaway
Just "tuning" in and yay, sounds like this Gang is another TV show. I like those.
- Amyloo
ooooo, Kevin schooled Steve in vocabulary today. Interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hey Amy!
- Hilary Talbot
I'm not sure I want everything on one screen. I like having two screens: the iPad, the TV.
- Francine Hardaway
I don't mind 'pressing input"... thats why i hooked up a HTPC to my TV... Windows Media Center is nice
- Stephen M
Hil! Hi! Hil Hi Hil Hi Hil Hi Hil.
- Amyloo
networks can't block that :)
- Stephen M
lol - still works!
- Hilary Talbot
people still watch CNN?
- Stephen M
Did I miss any SOPA discussion? Planned blackout, etc?
- Laura Norvig
Let's talk SOPA. Why the news blackout from NBC? Hmm...
- Alex Williams
Tablet in a Minute: AirPlay Mirroring and how to watch Hulu Plus on the Apple TV http://bit.ly/AqZbfz
- Stephen M
An Airplay Crash? How novel
- Francine Hardaway
Airplay crash, call in the NSTB investigative team
- Amyloo
Al Gore.. funny
- Susan Beebe
occupy SOPA
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Alex, I meant the plans to turn sites blank on January 26th or whatever date.
- Laura Norvig
haha Tina :)
- Susan Beebe
I finally have audio-only feed, hi everyone! Happy New Year from Kaula Lumpur (for this week). Am hearing a lot of talk about TV...the reason I go online is to get away from TV. Oh the irony. :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Recording industry dismisses alternate SOPA like bill proposed by Issa and Wyden http://bit.ly/AnOpLx
- Stephen M
Oh, you are just being an Angry Elf complaining about Elf availability :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I remember the BSA. I thought it was BS with very little A
- Francine Hardaway
Good question, Steve. How will SOPA affect how enterprise uses social tech?
- Alex Williams
isn't apple a part of BSA too?
- Stephen M
black bile or yellow bile
- Kevin Marks
get a VPN that exits in the UK and you can watch iPlayer, Danny
- Kevin Marks
http://www.bsa.org/country... <--list of Companies that are BSA members and by association support SOPA
- Stephen M
Whoa.. I'm realllly late..
- Kevin Costain
is this danny's story: http://www.npr.org/2012...
- Kevin Marks
based on public comments Microsoft has a legit claim against Comet
- Stephen M
that is huge!
- Laura Norvig
pushed to perform piracy. sounds nasty
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kid's table panel LOL
- Susan Beebe
hmm...
- Kevin Costain
AT&T will be showing a 4G LTE Powered WIndows 8 tablet running Qualcomm
- Stephen M
chips
- Stephen M
sorry, scoble, no do-overs!
- Laura Norvig
what is that poker game, danny?
- Alex Williams
Stephen: will the battery life suck like it does on the Galaxy Nexus?
- Robert Scoble
which GN... CDMA or GSM?
- Stephen M
Will there ever be an Android phone that doesn't have crappy battery life?
- Kevin Costain
a really big one
- Kevin Marks
lol
- Susan Beebe
does the galaxy nexus run on a qualcomm chip(Snapdragon)?
- Stephen M
snapdragons seem to have better battery life.
- Stephen M
My Nexus S's battery life is crappppy
- Kevin Costain
DigiView digitizer wow that is old
- Susan Beebe
My HTC Titan's battery goes all day with heavy use
- Stephen M
AT&T LTE is excellent..if anyone wants to know
- Stephen M
Well, that was short (for me).. thanks everyone.. :)
- Kevin Costain
true that.. my eVO would only last a few hours
- Stephen M
i do miss the unlimited data tho :(
- Stephen M
What's the practical battery limit (normal to heavy use) of an iPhone 4S?
- Kevin Costain
bye
- Stephen M
CDMA or GSM? i think that makes a difference too
- Stephen M
I would be using GSM typically.. there are bunch of factors anyway right.. wifi, bluetooth..
- Kevin Costain
I CDMA
- uki purnama
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Standing by, waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
while that is happening ... Happy and Healthy New Year to all !!!
- studentforce
Robert you'll be next. tuning up Mike's audio now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, just hanging out reading the non news of the week.
- Robert Scoble
kevin... if you're around please turn on your video
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow we
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry for delay everyone...aboutto go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We're having technical difficulties. Please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Hello all - this is the right time of day for me for once :)
- Nick Halstead
wo! triple echo
- studentforce
are you all hearing an echo?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
just went away. thanks ... whatever you did
- studentforce
I'm not hearing an echo.
- Robert Scoble
didn't do a thing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry about being late, I had 1pm in my head
- Kevin Marks
john t and I had a discussion via email about the kindle fire last night ... amazon is going to be 2012/2013 NEWS re: eTextbooks
- studentforce
Hi, from the UK. (albeit I'm n Poland..long story)
- Scott Jones
hey thanks for the party invite!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
re: apps vs. browsers .... Mobile users lean toward apps over browsers [study]
- studentforce
Windows Phone won't take off. In the UK its all about Apple and Android/Google. In Europe (outside of the UK pretty much) NO ONE has an Apple...its quite astounding. Its all about Google.Android and nothing to do with Apple..which is interesting
- Scott Jones
In for the last "Gang" of the year.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Scott: everytime I'm in Europe I see iPhones all over the place. I don't know what Europe you live in.
- Robert Scoble
Samsung has already shipped a million tablets with styluses: http://venturebeat.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
ask a student what Microsoft means to them .... my prediction is that at least a third will ask: 'what is microsoft'
- studentforce
I think one of Microsoft's imperatives has to be making TOUCH versions of all thier flagship apps..
- Kevin Costain
...again with the parties!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That *is* a big indictment. I would think someone would get one just to be contrarian.
- Bruce Lewis
Heh Robert. Talking about Central Europe. I'm British but have been through Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc and in this part of Europe there are zero iPhones/iPads and basically no Apple. But every 15 year old kid in all these countries has an android phone. Apple dont exist in the new Europe. Which is surprising. I had to get a Samsung as I couldnt get an Apple. But MS....well...they have no chance in Europe.
- Scott Jones
also for MS to migrate their shit into the cloud MARGINS will be effected big time and that is assuming they execute flawlessly: http://www.businessweek.com/news...
- studentforce
I wish Steve was more Italian and used his hands to talk more ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's always a "new" world though. There was a time when Android didn't exist at all in this "new" world. Things change. Never say never. :)
- Kevin Costain
Are people talking about Roku much? One of my users was asking for a Roku channel.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I see Roku come up here and there. But this is a pretty heavy Android iOS show.
- Robert Scoble
Must say..i dont have a TV anymore
- Scott Jones
coffee anyone?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
monitors not expensive any more
- Kevin Marks
I've not had cableTV service in almost a decade..
- Kevin Costain
Scott: I'm watching TV less and less. I look at it as a huge ass monitor.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder though, when are we going to get a set-top box that can be as FLEXIBLE as simply using a computer?
- Kevin Costain
not according to my comcast support rep ....
- studentforce
Robert, what tele are you using, a Vizio 3D?
- Nir Ben Yona
spectrum plus CONTENT
- studentforce
Nir: yup!
- Robert Scoble
Occupy Broadband!
- Todd Hoff
Robert: Wow. Cool.
- Nir Ben Yona
last names only please!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...Glad I caught the last GG of 2011 - ...love you guys - 2012 needs more high power women in tech, BTW - Hey John, Scobes, Mark - ...and Hey SG!
- Rocky Barbanica
OK Gillmor! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Hi Rocky!
- Bruce Lewis
Know what you mean Robert. What's interesting though is I now stream and download everything...erm..for free. Monitisation is an issue for companies I would say
- Scott Jones
When the edge is so powerful, does an edge to core strategy really make sense?
- Todd Hoff
oh no....it's a streaming show again. oh noooooo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
come on, no offence, lets ot have a blooming streaming conversation again! ;) x
- Scott Jones
Hey Bruce!
- Rocky Barbanica
heheh
- Rocky Barbanica
Mark... heheh - I meant Hey Kevin MARKs
- Rocky Barbanica
Rocky!!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hi Rocky
- Kevin Marks
TINA !!! Happy New Year, Doll !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
its a sereis of local monopolies
- Kevin Marks
Netflix peaked in 2011. Streaming video's becoming a commodity with Comcast, Amazon, Vudu... Netflix is actually falling behind in terms of first run films.
- Ken Sheppardson
Happy New Year, btw :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
awww Rocky. Thanks and to you and yours!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
$5 for the Louis CK show... you get two downloads or 2 chances to stream it.
- Kevin Costain
You have to build the audience first via discovery on the aggregators. Louis CK wouldn't have sold what he did without basic cable.
- Ken Sheppardson
I paid $5 to watch it.. :)
- Kevin Costain
I paid $5
- Kevin Marks
I'll bet you 99% of the folks who gave Louis CK knew him from basic cable already.
- Ken Sheppardson
weird we have a Lewis CK model now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think Louis CK made the money for production costs on the shows themselves (RE: Rolling Stone's article on his recent shows).. the money he made on the online special was allot more gravy..
- Kevin Costain
Ken: I think you're right now - but that will change. It is changing.
- Kevin Costain
People don't realize how good OTA quality is now that they've gone digital.
- Bruce Lewis
I knew louis CK from youtube
- Kevin Marks
I have no idea what Steve just said
- Kevin Marks
Bruce: I can't use OTA, got a mountain in between me and the antennas.
- Robert Scoble
I knew Louis KC from Pootie Tang.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Kevin: YouTube of his Conan appearances or cable shows?
- Ken Sheppardson
As business models content and conduit should always be separate, but look at Comcast they are trying to do both
- Stephen Pickering
Croquet
- Kevin Marks
Rounders - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Nick Halstead
hes Nick
- Kevin Marks
CROQUET !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
hee hee nick
- Kevin Marks
Predict THIS - Rocky's running for Pacifica City Counsel 2012
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert, if you live in Half Moon Bay the view looks better than anything that would be on TV anyway. :-) But seriously, I think the percentage of cable use should be lower given the signal available to a lot of people now.
- Bruce Lewis
ROCKY LANDSLIDE!
- Bruce Lewis
HEH - LANDSLIDE isn't a very good Coastline platform - especially in Pacifica ! :-)
- Rocky Barbanica
Have you read Interface by Neal Stephenson?
- Kevin Marks
I think Reich is on to something with a Biden/Clinton swap on the Democratic side
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm campaigning for Rocky!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeehaw! I GOT this, now - !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
It's like waking up and realizing you've been sold a lie all your life that we are the most special country and we run it on real principles, and we have a real democracy. At least these tools allowed us to wake up and see how fake the so called 'establishment' really are
- Stephen Pickering
Borthwick keeps sinking into the floor
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't robert talking about the US economy conversion from manufacturing to an information/service economy ??
- studentforce
much like in the 1920's when we converted from agriculture to manufacturing ???
- studentforce
There is really no one talking for, or representing the 99% of the population.
- Kevin Costain
studentforce: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: and that's the power they had. Not sure they really used it well.
- Robert Scoble
I think the OWS activities were just a starting point.. that is probably a sign of things to come.. I wonder if we'll see a full-scale revolt somehow. or even if that is possible.. ?
- Kevin Costain
That would be 'crony' capitalism or in Russia Oligarchy?
- Stephen Pickering
Robert Scoble: what's unfortunate is that each 'conversion' or migration caused MAJOR economic upheaval.
- studentforce
The Black Bloc is also the darker side of all this stuff.... I don't know what it all means.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Godaddy testified to congress in favor of SOPA. When they testify against I'll be satisfied. Blog posts don't cut it.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble on Reuters - Tech Trends for 2012 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Rocky Barbanica
Friday at 9 or Friday at 1pm better?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...for this show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: are they both really that different (just a matter of timing), no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin You're right, I think. They are the same, just different names in American and Russia.
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin is a British spy. Just figured that out.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
radicals!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Giving the number of millionaires and people in power - it's clear that those with most of the money are likely to hold most of the power. They are few.
- Kevin Costain
LOL
- Rocky Barbanica
haha.. Bond, James Bond.. :)
- Kevin Costain
personalities are not leaders. Social media is the leader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there was a chap a College called Kingsmill La Touche Godfrey Bond - best spy name ever
- Kevin Marks
the meme is the leader
- Kevin Marks
the Guy Fawkes mask is the leader
- Kevin Marks
You can look at it as "no leader" or look at it as more people exercising leadership skills -- the Yosemite trip being a good example.
- Bruce Lewis
"A penny for the old Guy."
- Stephen Pickering
Perhaps whatever is in FRONT of the masses, is the leader. It could be anything really, no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin, no, no, no, the whole meme is getting away from the power of the Lowest Common Denominator
- Stephen Pickering
I think eventually we'll see the rise of fake people leading masses (like that fake pop star in Japan).. humans created virtually to lead the masses..
- Kevin Costain
yes Stephen: "TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace
- Kevin Marks
Wow, Kevin Marks, love that quote
- Stephen Pickering
"Just because something is dead, doesn't mean it's gone" <--- funny :)
- Kevin Costain
it's from E Unibus Pluram, his essay on TV which is well worth reading in full
- Kevin Marks
Yeah, I definitely will. Thanks
- Stephen Pickering
Email is dead. Long live email?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Having set up filtering, Scobleizer will spend less time in email but get more value from it.
- Bruce Lewis
Email is most definitely NOT dead. Normal people are still learning how to use it.
- Kevin Costain
I lost Borthwick!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The only way I know how to get ahold of anyone directly is via email. Every other method is like waving frantically at someone while they are speeding away and their windows are tinted.
- Todd Hoff
Email's just as dead as paper.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Right, and NOBODY uses that ancient technology anymore.
- Kevin Costain
Exactly
- Ken Sheppardson
please help me get this out there http://www.creativeartscharter.org/news...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
Thanks everyone.. Have a happy and safe New Year... see you all next year!
- Kevin Costain
gzunt tite !! (sp?)
- studentforce
Thanks, Happy New Year!
- Robert Scoble
The ending sneeze - perfect!
- Rocky Barbanica
Last sneeze of 2011!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks to everyone... always...for the whole year!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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about to go live
- Steve Gillmor
Waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
Waiting also -- with a different audio/camera connection .. see how that works.
- John Taschek
Hey this works out very well. Get to watch live for once (9 to 5er in Central time). Plus, bonus! As I'm loading up the Kindle Fire I got for my parents, there are all these real geeks in chat to whom I can ask questions.
- Amyloo
almost up...holiday delay ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
did the xmas tree fall over?
- Kevin Marks
I'm hooked on, just a couple more minutes...
- Robert Scoble
What are you hooked on? Are you sharing?
- Charlie Isaacs
now putting xmas tree back up
- cliveb
Robert is hooked on life!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hooked on Classics - famous in their day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- John Taschek
he's hooked on videodrenaline
- Charlie Isaacs
Hooked on big screens and apps, of course!
- Robert Scoble
john trying to reach you. call newsgang4 on video
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...and by John I mean Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doesn't show you're live. Let me try again.
- John Taschek
I'll tell Christmas jokes while we are waiting to stall for time. Did you hear that one of Santa's reindeer now works for Proctor and Gambel? [Its true, Comet cleans sinks!]
- Charlie Isaacs
we're up JOhn
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What nationality is Santa Claus? [North Polish.]
- Charlie Isaacs
Who delivers Christmas presents to dogs? Santa Paws
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone seems to have started the holidays early
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What did the buck say to the doe on Christmas Day? Merry Christmas, Dear!
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie's rocking the xmas jokes
- cliveb
What did Larry want for Christmas? Two more search engines and 3 more Knowledge Management Systems
- Charlie Isaacs
Howdy y'all.
- Nir Ben Yona
Happy Birthday Ella!
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't tip the booze in the Tricaster
- cliveb
Oops, Scoble's mic was hot during that Harde comment :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Is it chai or cha?
- Michael Mahemoff
That was supposed to be a joke, sorry
- Charlie Isaacs
Merry Christmas, War is Over
- Kevin Marks
Lapsang souchong
- Kevin Marks
hi Robert - I'm joining the show live now too :)
- Ramon Ray
Flipscam hehehheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
I have a way of seeing music from friends called http://www.last.fm/user...
- Kevin Marks
ok Im drinking coffee ....maybe there's some kalua in it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we gonna talk about rypple ??
- studentforce
Favorite enterprise tech - Nodejs?
- cliveb
cliveb: definitely! studentforce: absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
Steve's boss (Marc Benioff) says we must listen to this video from wil.i.am: http://youtu.be/vjIwmJMqrco
- Robert Scoble
it aint LOGISTICS !!!
- studentforce
FedEx said that they used the incident as a "learning experience"
- Charlie Isaacs
like Google and Firefox?
- Kevin Marks
Xbox launches the Xphone and Xtv http://bit.ly/s71Qk1 (tongue in cheek)
- cliveb
said that their product GA schedule was misaligned with the conference. bullshit !
- studentforce
CES feels stale
- cliveb
i just rented the spce and will be doing the keynote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- studentforce
hey cliveb I added sound effects to that FedEx video for fun :) http://youtu.be/PDF52CG71ug
- Charlie Isaacs
Exactly, Scobleizer is more real-time
- cliveb
he/she didin't buy enough this year (Best underBuy!)
- studentforce
CES is about Android.
- Charbax
Charbax: I think Mobile World Congress is a far bigger deal for Android.
- Robert Scoble
Best Buy really blew it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple/Microsoft don't want to compete. They only want to use anticompetitive tactics and bogus patent lawsuits, they are desperate.
- Charbax
Year Robert, MWC is an even bigger Android show just a month later.
- Charbax
Tina, agree on Best Buy, that is going to hurt them
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie - the old adage ship via FedX for less handling!
- cliveb
Last year there were 1500 booths at CES showcasing Android devices, 32 with Windows related devices, this year there'll be over 2500 booths at CES showcasing Android stuff and even fewer Windows Phone
- Charbax
android isn't just about phones any more
- Kevin Marks
Don’t make Amazon a monopoly... http://on.ft.com/sUsxfK
- cliveb
Google launched Google Video on a CES keynote
- Charbax
shoot I missed John doing a moose impression ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Googlet demonstrated honeycomb at the last CES http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Charlie Isaacs
my guess $40 Million (or something like that) for the main pre keynote and biggest hall and promo materials, my guess Google will take it next year
- Charbax
Steve is drinking out of his John Lennon glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the question for me is how many non-phone, non-tablet devices are running android charbax. Cameras, TVs, photo frames, etc
- Kevin Marks
Tell him to say "All we are saying is give peace a chance
- Charlie Isaacs
It sure as hell will never be Nokia ;) I agree Google will do it the year after next ... if the world hasn't ended.. obviously ;)
- kosso
Yeah Kevin, I wonder at which point Canon/Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/JVC start putting Android in their DSLR and point and shoots and camcorders, provide photo apps, direct picasa/flickr uploads. Maybe Google releases ARM Powered Google TV, Android laptops, Android platform for E Ink ereaders
- Charbax
My Jawbone Up told me that I was lethargic so I attached it to the back of Lance's bike
- Charlie Isaacs
within a year most HDTVs will have Google TV integrated
- Charbax
ARM Powered Google TV costs only $25 in parts to add to a HDTV including a 1080p webcam for Google+ Hangouts
- Charbax
War Is Over, Merry Christmas
- Kevin Marks
if Apple does a HDTV, I hope it's a Quad-HD 2160p 55" for less than $2000
- Charbax
HTC monday @ gtug (mostly Android) http://4sq.com/uiJIe0
- cliveb
But it is a good point. If stream is becoming limited by infrastructure provider plans and caps; why isn't that being solved by anyone. Last mile is limited. Spectrum is limited. What is the innovation to infrastructure that will solve it? Is anyone working on these to give us hope?
- Michael A. Romig
It'll work with White Spaces
- Charbax
plug in wires and it might work
- Jerome Hughes
WiFi spectrum was mean to use for micro ovens
- Charbax
zero wifi in the main room at le web unless you're on the ethernet tables
- Michael Mahemoff
the apple time capsule will act as a dual bandwidth access point. 2.4 and 5
- kosso
run wires to the TVs
- Kevin Marks
Homeland is good too
- Charbax
indeed: "Wires Work" ;)
- kosso
Spooks is the best show on TV (MI-5)
- Kevin Marks
"Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue" -- Arianna Huffington
- Charlie Isaacs
Boss !
- studentforce
"MI5"?? You mean "Spooks" !! :)
- kosso
Game of Thrones.. meh... Sean Bean can only play 'Sean Bean'.
- kosso
I typed Spooks
- Kevin Marks
lol
- kosso
You have to search for MI5 on netflix
- Kevin Marks
I gather the word 'spooks' has different, non-politically-correct connotations in the USA ;)
- kosso
CNN streams as does Al Jezerra (sp?) to my iPad
- studentforce
Before they lost every domain in existence
- Michael Mahemoff
There's 10 seasons of spooks?
- Charbax
Who owns Godaddy? Didn't they sell to someone recently?
- Charbax
yes, new CEO
- Kevin Marks
GoDaddy caved, and said they'll sit back and see what everyone else thinks - for now. Todd Cochrane from Geek News Central had a phone interview with Warren Adelman, the new GoDaddy CEO.
- kosso
KKR and Silver Lake Partners and Technology Crossover Ventures
- Charlie Isaacs
I think it's time Google got in to the Domain registration and DNS management business.
- kosso
@kosso - of course Sean Bean is no longer on the show ...
- John Taschek
I don't know how anyone was still on GoDaddy in the first place
- Michael Mahemoff
their advertising, especially
- Jerome Hughes
Easy to attack and also easy to move away from
- Michael Mahemoff
KKR and Silver Lake Partners paid $2.25 billion for Godaddy, maybe they want SOPA
- Charbax
I still have about 100 domains with them
- kosso
Why use GoDaddy when you can use Rackspace #shamelessplug
- Charlie Isaacs
I have google apps domains that are white label GoDaddy ones
- Kevin Marks
Wait a sec. They "caved", but if you read the press release they admit their General Counsel, Christine Jones, helped write it. Does anyone really think they are doing a full reversal here?
- Michael A. Romig
Would you buy domains from Google? And manage your DNS records through them? I would.
- kosso
Or NameCheap #shamelessfan
- Michael Mahemoff
Charlie: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
I do kosso, but they whitelabel through GoDaddy
- Kevin Marks
Google is technically an ICANN-accredited registrar
- Michael Mahemoff
it's about how many in that market take actions that are measurable
- Jerome Hughes
I'd like to host my wordpress and phpbb on Google App Engine and have Google handle domains too
- Charbax
I suggest http://hover.com/tummel Tucows (who sponsor my podcast)
- Kevin Marks
Kevin : interesting. I didn't know they did that. I think Google should do it all themselves. They could also strike some interesting info/ad deals for content etc.. it would be an interesting market. As if (someone like) GoDaddy got in to advertising a la adsense.
- kosso
baidu
- kosso
Maybe the content intermediaries don't want to loose their grip on the multi-trillion dollar content/influence industries
- Charbax
@ValaAfshar 1m What you need to know about SOPA (Stop Online Privacy Act) in 2012 - @rww rww.to/vDqJHv.
- studentforce
social media upends sopa...
- cliveb
Instead of SOPA our esteemed leadership should take out the evil Patent Trolls
- Charlie Isaacs
just move to Switzerland, we legalized piracy here last month
- Charbax
Even a Swiss watch is correct twice a day :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
The Internet Wins: Go Daddy Flip-Flops On SOPA by @JonMwords http://rww.to/u3UgwM
- studentforce
maybe Obama should just announce he'd veto any SOPA bill, that'd give him some online support
- Charbax
Then that lends credence to the SOPA purpose being much broader that safe havens. Like Forbes "The Gread SOPA Conspiracy" goo.gl/exQTR. The content providers want more "controls".
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie, definitely: Take out the evil Patent Trolls
- cliveb
yeah! aha! that password is gonna protect you
- studentforce
your printer cartridge is full, but too old
- Jerome Hughes
I think you are the victim of being an early adopter, not a conspiracy of dis-operability. Scoble's HDMI example aside.
- Michael A. Romig
We'll create an encrypted darknet if they try to block stuff, the prob is maybe they'll block or slow down all packets that look like they may be used for accessing the whole darknet
- Charbax
HDCP damages signal ON PURPOSE
- Kevin Marks
@Robert Same goes for fake Apple peripherals , they simply don't work anymore on Cupertino's iDevices.
- Nir Ben Yona
I have this image in my mind of Tina standing behind Steve with a whip making him ride faster on the exercise bike.
- Charlie Isaacs
as long as the content comes out of speakers and is displayed on the screen, it can be pirated
- Charbax
even new Macbooks have look ahead signal processor stopping streaming to > 1 daisy chained device (good luck at conferences)
- cliveb
SOPA companies can't yet install DRM in our ears and eyes
- Charbax
we only want to fly these drones over potential crime scenes
- Jerome Hughes
http://epeus.blogspot.com/2002... Charbax
- Kevin Marks
on the moon? I thought my expenses were bad
- Kevin Marks
4K2K Apple TV for under $2K, bring it on
- Charbax
Apple brings in a much bigger base than slingbox and legitimacy. People will partner with Apple rather than go to guns against them.
- Michael A. Romig
DRM Helmets - dang!
- cliveb
Charlie that's funny but instead I would like to get the bike to power the tv. If you keep the pace... no problem. If you get slow the picture deteriorates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My smartphone poll: http://gopollgo.com/will-yo... Interesting demographic detail.
- Robert Scoble
my guess an Apple TV won't support DivX and MKV
- Charbax
+1 Tina (I need that for my son...) :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Plus I seemed to have misplaced my whip ;-(
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DoubleTwist will stream to AirPlay at the moment
- Kevin Marks
TWCable TV for iPad as another example. But I still won't buy cable from them having been "unplugged" now for several years.
- Michael A. Romig
Christmas is coming Tina
- Charlie Isaacs
voice controlled tv will come from Apple. Via Siri(ish)
- kosso
on the 6th day of Christmas my true-love gave to me... a bullwhip a crackin'
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If the set-top-box hardware costs $50 external and $25 internal, these types of functionalities aren't really a differentiator on a $1000-$2000 HDTV
- Charbax
Wifi is the standard, but maybe it shouldn't be. Why couldn't the market crack the WiMax nut, for example. What about the latest wireless bluetooth, will that compete?
- Michael A. Romig
you can maybe use ethernet over power line in your home http://www.frys.com/product...
- Charbax
Scoble is like MS Applications, consumes all available memory and network bandwidth
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone in Paris is getting a gigabit/s to the home, they are pulling cables through the Paris sewer system
- Charbax
Yeah the problem in Europe is you can take a short train ride to the conference and you're paying silly international rates for 3G
- Michael Mahemoff
More Open spectrum is a very good answer.
- Michael A. Romig
I heard T-Mobile is available now, they have available spectrum
- Charlie Isaacs
CCNx routers - Van Jacobson
- cliveb
Only in iPad 2 and iPhone 4S devices.
- Nir Ben Yona
do I need to move to Paris?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Dale J. Stephens @DaleJStephens 1m Nothing is more aggravating that not being able to communicate due to lack of Internet access.
- studentforce
ipad mirroring uses few kilobits/second, a HDMI out cable can use 20Gbps
- Charbax
Ask Apple to add an HDMI output on your iphone
- Charbax
Enterasys will http://www.enterasys.com/product...
- studentforce
cat 5
- Charlie Isaacs
It could happen, but it is the early adopter problem again. All it takes are those chips that support on the fly packet inspection and prioritization to get commoditized into home devices. Of course you can do that today with higher-end network solutions. Just not your house. So I'm thinking demand just isn't there yet for the market to give you what you want.
- Michael A. Romig
Enterasys RoamAbout® wireless offerings
- studentforce
I think the demand will grow very fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android devices use the MHL connector/dock which is up to 20Gbps over HDMI, mirroring can't really compete with that. Mirroring is for glorified remote controlling
- Charbax
Scoble has an OC192 coming into his house
- Charlie Isaacs
I think you should end the show NOW !!
- studentforce
watch-out for DRM in Tricaster HD...
- cliveb
Apple doesn't want to include HDMI outputs cause they want you to buy extra devices
- Charbax
some of us have been doing this with wires and projectors for many years
- Jerome Hughes
if you have a popular YouTube account they encode your HD videos in realtime
- Charbax
are you holding your iphone with your left hand?
- Charbax
Scoble ran cables out of his windows and down the stairway
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: nope. Just wifi. But my airport express is right over my downstairs TV.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the politicians/Obama are corrupt
- Charbax
Apple needs to copy Sonos. I have Sonos setup in 8 rooms with Spotify and MOG and zero issues with wireless. They use their own mesh network in the house.
- Jim Long
Just use http://www.frys.com/product... and a second WiFi router
- Charbax
Politicians are persuadable by face to face speech. Trouble is that most people they talk to face to face are lobbyists.
- Kevin Marks
Google/Apple/M$/Intel/HP need to put the Billions on the table and buy congress
- Charbax
Hey now. We have several congressmen that overlap in Austin. Remember this just came down: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... so it all has to be redone.
- Michael A. Romig
@Jim - love Sonos.
- John Taschek
the political conversation is coming back... do I smell a NewsGang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple and Microsoft support SOPA? http://venturebeat.com/2011...
- Charbax
michael - find out when Lamar is appearing in public over xmas and talk to him
- Kevin Marks
@charbax powerline is not all that great, and very unpredictable. A better solution is MOCA if you want to get to other rooms and have coax.
- Jim Long
can you talk about sex and religion when you are done with politics? :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
invite Arianna on the show next time?
- Charbax
is robert drinking whisky out of a jamjar?
- Kevin Marks
cider here.
- kosso
Authentic local Somerset cider here in the UK.
- kosso
Created by Jon Lech - aka "DVD Jon"
- kosso
DoubleTwist.. obviously.. not the cider ;)
- kosso
First World Problems: http://www.reddit.com/r...
- Michael A. Romig
SOPA : Stop Online Piracy Act
- kosso
How about Second World Problems?
- Kevin Marks
Correct! It looks too much like Google Plus (Quora)
- kosso
Propitious Yuletide
- Kevin Marks
Happy Hogswatch
- Kevin Marks
Jolly Holidays!
- kosso
irreverent toast to all unfollow scripts
- cliveb
Kevin: I use Reidel glasses to drink my whisky.
- Robert Scoble
Happy Happy everyone!
- Charlie Isaacs
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Happy holidays!
- Nir Ben Yona
Cheers from the UK! Have a good one! ;)
- kosso
Double Cheers! Have Fun! Happy Holidays!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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- lucyjohnson91
Streaming to a nightlight is beyond wasteful. Having computers in the bedrooms of kids is not a good idea. You need to read up on your child policies.
- marstein
weird echo
- Alex Williams
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I'm waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
I posted this to get ready for today's show: https://plus.google.com/u... about my first CES prediction.
- Robert Scoble
hi there
- Kevin Marks
Cool if Jobsworth makes a guest appearance, even a cameo.
- cliveb
Hey guys! Tina, it's your turn now. ACTION.
- Nir Ben Yona
JP is not going to make it I'm afraid, clive.
- Kevin Marks
You're not shitting.
- Francine Hardaway
I think Tech Crunch is destroyed. I can tell it has completely changed. Softer, less interesting
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Kevin:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Hi guys!
- Daniel W. Crompton
I just got a WebOS Tablet, and I gave my KindleFire to my grandson
- Francine Hardaway
TechCrunch has dissolved fast.
- cliveb
Arrington's post: http://uncrunched.com/2011...
- Robert Scoble
Geekwire.com's taken over TC crown in Seattle
- cliveb
It depends on how you manage the acquisitions
- Francine Hardaway
Sometimes acquisitions are the fastest way to destroy value (no idea why)
- cliveb
The problem is that Huffington Post was acquired for $300 million at same time that TC was bought for about $30 million. I could see this collision coming from 100 miles away.
- Robert Scoble
Moe: I would have buried Gowalla too. In fact, I did.
- Robert Scoble
are you guys doing the gang twice a week now every week?
- Laura Norvig
Is it really the expense that's the issue? Windows 8 isn't released yet, is it?
- Brian Hendrickson
that would be amazing, Laura; or at least do one Gillmor Gang and one News Gang
- franzstehrn
Once a week, sorry. But sometimes we delay a show until Monday.
- Robert Scoble
I'd buy a Windows 8 tablet -- it's exciting that their app-building APIs are Web based. It'll be fun to make apps compared to Java.
- Brian Hendrickson
ah, I see, thanks Robert.
- Laura Norvig
Have to say Azure has mojo since ScottGu took over: Nodejs Hadoop
- cliveb
Isn't Microsoft developing for iOS now?
- Alex de Soto
cliveb yeah Node on Metro would be fun
- Brian Hendrickson
I'd rather have a WebOS tablet after the iPad. Awesome platform.
- Nir Ben Yona
Laura... maybe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OneNote, SkyDrive, Kinectimals for iOS... all rehearsals for a Microsoft tablet?
- Alex de Soto
they don't do anything
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin's right about MS law suites. Even mid-level employees changing jobs are nailed to strict, enforced non-competes.
- cliveb
up and to the stage right
- Kevin Marks
the enterprise based tablet is the iPad at the moment
- Kevin Marks
@brian - webOS had(has) nodejs. sweet.
- cliveb
wow I connect in late and I instantly get Scoble monitor envy
- Charlie Isaacs
cliveb i forgot about that -- no wonder devs are so enamored with it. I did see a cool "responsive" app for different screen sizes - built with a webos framework
- Brian Hendrickson
Governments still use MS Office.
- Nir Ben Yona
Remember when Arrington wanted to develop a tablet?
- Francine Hardaway
Everyone in health care is going to the iPad, whether there's an "enterprise" branded version or not
- Francine Hardaway
is microsoft still in business ??
- studentforce
I think there is actually a 2010
- Laura Norvig
There's still a great demand for Excel and such.
- Nir Ben Yona
crocodile tears for msft
- Kevin Marks
I am running CP/M and HDOS on my Zenith Heathkit Z89.
- Charlie Isaacs
kevin is crying over the death of office
- Tina Chase Gillmor
CTOs like the Microsoft cloud. :(
- Alex de Soto
people don't like change, obviously
- Laura Norvig
ok. not true. some of its features are pretty good. spreadsheets, ppt
- studentforce
FriendFeed never really did get @mentions working -- did it. G+ and FB and TW have it -- it's expected
- Brian Hendrickson
Word is widely used. Most people I work with in the enterprise hate Google docs
- Francine Hardaway
My wife still thinks she is running Wordstar (That's what she calls MSWord)
- Charlie Isaacs
Office / Windows 8 stakes are really high, but metro delivers tablet exp. How can MS go wrong.
- cliveb
being able to work offline is still important for some people/situations
- Laura Norvig
its a commodity
- studentforce
I write in MSWord (a lot of time on airplanes w/out wifi) and then publish to blog or pdf. I usually code in Eclipse or xCode console
- Charlie Isaacs
I would be up the creek currently at home without having a full OS/Environment. So yeah, it's still very important.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
offline I use TextWrangler or SubEthaEdit
- Kevin Marks
Kevin does your editor also work as a signaling device?
- Brian Hendrickson
Facts, Amazon already has a patent license from Microsoft...More facts...(as of july 2011: Office 2010 continues to be the fastest-selling version of Microsoft Office in history with over 100 million licenses sold since its release a year ago.
- Stephen M
You guys are dreaming. You should live in my world. Small businesses use Word, email, and .ppt. They don't want to change.
- Francine Hardaway
Sharepoint is like Yammer
- Brian Hendrickson
Really depends on teh kind of Enterprise. Some businesses are still used to needing to format documents nicely and are used to doing that in word.
- Laura Norvig
Sharepoint is your grandmother's attic -- where you go to store stuff you don't ever want to see again -- Benioff
- Charlie Isaacs
Francine nailed it.
- cliveb
Francine: yes.
- Robert Scoble
No -- Excel is
- Brian Hendrickson
Mostly documents in small business. NO, Steve.
- Francine Hardaway
Way to bring it back to reality, Francine! Although agile small businesses with younger staff tend to use cloud apps more. some work entirely with google apps.
- Laura Norvig
QuickBooks?
- Kevin Marks
they use email to send documents
- Jerome Hughes
Small businesses aren't where you think they are
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, that's right! They attach word documents to email:-)
- Francine Hardaway
...and there's MS Access, Project and Visio. They are very persistent in certain circles.
- Alex de Soto
Microsoft Has A Dozen Billion Dollar Businesses
- Stephen M
I'd like to know who (profession) uses what at different age: 50+ uses ? 15-20 yrs uses ? 20 - 25 yrs uses ? 25 - 40 yrs? 40 - 50 yrs?
- studentforce
Even though at Alcatel-Lucent we have moved to a Jive Platform people still use the MSOffice tools and store interesting docs and ppts in Jive Enterprise
- Charlie Isaacs
OFFICE is stable
- Francine Hardaway
we are a mid-size nonprofit using outlook, sharepoint, ms-office. we all hate sharepoint and smaller teams use Basecamp instead.
- Laura Norvig
Unless you are in tech
- Francine Hardaway
how many happy Sharepoint users are there? People are basically "living with it"
- Charlie Isaacs
if you're still preparing documents for print a lot, sure, you end up in office
- Kevin Marks
Charlie: right.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft Sold 5 Million Seats Of Office 365 In Less Than Three Months and 90% of those are small businesses
- Stephen M
do you like it, or do you just live with it?
- Kevin Marks
Charlie, it's scary how awful it is, really. Only use is version control/checkout.
- Laura Norvig
Small biz likes keeping a firm grip. WinOffice over WebSocial tools
- cliveb
it doesn't matter that Sharepoint is lame -- it's cheap and IT can install it behind the firewall, that makes it important.
- Brian Hendrickson
if goog docs was more robust people would jump fast. No loyalty to MS like there used to be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: and Box.net has something like 8 million ustomers and is doubling every 11 months.
- Robert Scoble
site licensing makes it an all or nothing decision, need to mount a major project to save anything
- Jerome Hughes
sharepoint is really bad when people try to use it for knowledge management...trying to store docs that can solve customer issues in there
- Charlie Isaacs
E-mail will persist as long as there are lawyers. Where else will people place those lengthy legal disclaimers?
- Alex de Soto
When does the 2010 Web arrive Rob :D
- David Lloyd
Tina, yep. I've tried to switch to google docs but there are bugs, load issues, and lack of complexity in formatting tools.
- Laura Norvig
I used to know how to format thinsg in word
- Kevin Marks
these days I write HTML or code instead
- Kevin Marks
Google apps just suck, even LAPD is dumping Google apps gmail
- Stephen M
Tina: That's true, but maybe from the pricing point. Most people would probably use Office if it wasn't so pricey.
- Nir Ben Yona
eg I made http://xmaslabels.com to avoid having to deal with bloody Word tables and mail merge
- Kevin Marks
There's QuickOffice Pro for the iPad. That will keep Office in use for a while.
- Alex de Soto
sometimes when my kids write papers they cant do it on Google docs BUT teachers dont iinsist on Word any more because Google is free
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sharepoint is not cheap next to open source content management
- Jerome Hughes
Prezi is great for presentations.
- Nir Ben Yona
I use Google Docs because I travel so much. When I work with an enterprise client, they want me to send a Word doc because they want to download the doc to read when THEY are traveling and offline. And when I work with small businesses and startups, they don't have time to learn any new software so they use Office for Mac:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft DID NOT announce Office the ipad.. it was a rumor..why are you reporting that as fact
- Stephen M
iWork apps
- Jerome Hughes
Prezi is pretty cool, agree Nir
- Charlie Isaacs
I like Prezi
- Kevin Marks
i love Prezi.
- Robert Scoble
it's a bit weird on iPad, but works OK on web
- Kevin Marks
MS Incentives! IT admin shops serving smb/sme make careers and money upgrading servicing office. Make nothing with Goog docs
- cliveb
Outlook Express is part of Office
- Francine Hardaway
So despite all this, why was latest version of Office biggest selling version of all time
- David Lloyd
Huge sales
- David Lloyd
Beginners using Prezi tend to make the audience motion sick
- Francine Hardaway
true Clive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
inertia, David.
- Kevin Marks
Francine there is no Outlook Express
- Stephen M
I need to go in a couple of minutes
- Kevin Marks
So "dying" products have inertia?
- David Lloyd
+Steven M oops!
- Francine Hardaway
OneNote for the iPad arrived on December 13, did someone already say that?
- Charlie Isaacs
I said it was on iPad, but I haven't tried it
- Kevin Marks
ok Kevin. I just let Steve know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wonder if they will discuss Winer's post about Apps
- David Lloyd
David: Momentum is hard to change.
- Robert Scoble
iPad isn't the word processing tool.
- Francine Hardaway
THat's YOU
- Francine Hardaway
one day...real soon...your iPad will be your office computer AND your desktop phone
- Charlie Isaacs
the liberating effect of constraints
- Jerome Hughes
how can you "work" with an ipad? the app model is like Dos..one thing at a time..
- Stephen M
iAWriter is a beautiful iPad app for writers.
- Alex de Soto
Everyone I know is still trying to find a good word processing tool for the iPad.
- Francine Hardaway
We visit websites on our computers and use APPS on our ipads..
- David Lloyd
Exactly. The entire government offices in Israel run Microsoft Office.
- Nir Ben Yona
Who cares about new apps for Windows... just go to a website
- Stephen M
I've tried iAWriter and Blogsy, and Pages. I end up drafting in Evernote and then uploading to WP
- Francine Hardaway
How about Skype?
- Brian Costello
starting with ways to convert to and from office documents
- Jerome Hughes
Yup. I use Evernote for text processing most.
- Francine Hardaway
If I am online I write in WP, but that's dangerous on the iPad
- Francine Hardaway
Nir Ben Yona, its a good thing... LA tried going to Google Apps, but they have had to drop it it sucked so bad
- Stephen M
good one Kevin
- Charlie Isaacs
does prezi let you author on iPd now?
- Kevin Marks
OK, I'm gone
- Kevin Marks
Cld be in Airplanes disconnected Cloud apps doc experience suks. (html5 local storage ~)
- cliveb
Francine -- can't you use an iPad app that hooks to your WP?
- Brian Hendrickson
...but not forgotten
- Tina Chase Gillmor
like MarsEdit?
- Brian Hendrickson
By the way, I loaded a new app today for windows... try MetroTwit..its beautiful, and awesome too
- Stephen M
Brian yes. But I write a lot on airplanes without wifi and in conferences with crummy wifi, and I need to draft offline more than you think
- Francine Hardaway
Not the cheap wine, right?
- Charlie Isaacs
@Stephen: Learning the hard way ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
Francine - a well-designed MarsEdit-a-like would handle offline mode -- not sure if that exists tho
- Brian Hendrickson
This show sounds like a bunch of Microsoft competitors complaining about them...
- Stephen M
Great video by me about Rypple: http://youtu.be/fcDHdATSjaQ
- Robert Scoble
anyone tried Microsoft Lync?
- Stephen M
I want to work with the Wookey! (hint nudge wink)
- cliveb
I am wondering about how this will affect the SAP/Salesforce relationship...
- Charlie Isaacs
My company is a huge Microsoft partner, gives me more reason to bash on them to make them better Stephen M
- Charlie Isaacs
I think eventually people will run their own cloud software the way they adopted running their own PCs in the '80s. it's the mainframe era of the cloud.
- Brian Hendrickson
you can get a Windows Phone for 99 cents :)
- Stephen M
I went to the real-time crunch-up, stood at a Mic and asked Jack Dorsey why Twitter wasn't decentralized like e-mail. he said the users didn't care if it was decentralized.
- Brian Hendrickson
Nodejs yes!
- cliveb
node + xmpp!
- Brian Hendrickson
Hey Stephen if we wanted Microsoft ads we would go here: "The worst Microsoft ads of all time" http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
- Charlie Isaacs
federated.
- Francine Hardaway
the problem with OStatus is it's like Atom -- a splinter
- Brian Hendrickson
Moe why denegrate RealTime by calling it CNN.. no one watches CNN
- Stephen M
there's been a lot of good real-time tech invented the past couple years -- Salmon, Pubsubhubbub
- Brian Hendrickson
that stuff can work with RSS too --
- Brian Hendrickson
That's true.
- Francine Hardaway
@Robert: Soooooo True! You nailed it.
- Nir Ben Yona
+1 Robert
- Charlie Isaacs
And I love the idea that developers wanted to build Kinect apps and the mobile platform takes no advantage of that
- Francine Hardaway
but he totally backtracked on it.
- Laura Norvig
Yes, I thought it was awesome, but the media nearly drove him under
- Francine Hardaway
MS has enough resources where they can retain their old style legacy thinking and create a new division with "new style thinking" and just let the old appendage wither and go away on its own
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is doing so bad with developers they can't sell their developer tools...oh wait, its a billion dollar business thats up 11% year over year
- Stephen M
Reed may be inline to succeed Ballmer (but up in the air now)
- cliveb
Stephen: Box.net doubled in the same year. WHich business would you rather have?
- Robert Scoble
it's not like MS is going to crash and burn, but if they don't move forward, what are they?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why do you really need email if you have threaded conversation tools?
- Laura Norvig
Microsoft had a record sales/revenue year..why replace him
- Stephen M
Have a wonderful holiday everybody
- Francine Hardaway
good pt Tina, also, what is their dev growth rate vs. Apple and Adroid? I paid my $99 for xcode dev without hesitation, but I don't buy ms dev licenses any more, only at my company
- Charlie Isaacs
Regardless $$ Ballmer still needs a cloudy successor.
- cliveb
Today you should thank me, as well for the annoying small business insights
- Francine Hardaway
Good show thanks -- where do I pay my $5?
- Brian Hendrickson
Why pay to dev for a phone?
- Stephen M
Great show #cheers
- Nir Ben Yona
Thank you, Francine. :-)
- Debi Jones
+1 for Robert. Hi Debi!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
you guys are all great, thanks for the exchange! :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Lovely time. If there's no show next week...have a great holiday!
- Alex de Soto
Happy Holidays everyone!
- Debi Jones
By the way, why isn't there a chat room? its on ustream??
- Stephen M
Good to see SFDC pick up coach Wookey.
- cliveb
call LEO!!
- Brian Hendrickson
They won't notice you
- Francine Hardaway
Leo as in Twit?
- Stephen M
thanks francine for the annoying small business insights
- Steve Gillmor
yeah gillmorgang was hosted there in 2008 i think
- Brian Hendrickson
ahhh.... no
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks everyone.
- Robert Scoble
I think Microsoft avoiding CES is a mistake, and seems to be based on the cost to have a keynote speaker. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
I brought the first live stream to the NFL Draft in 2007. NFL copied it in 2008. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Problem with SOPA is it gives power to fraudulent take down claims, even with the penalties. This is already a REAL PROBLEM on YouTube #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 9am PDT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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good morning friendly people.
- Paul E. Ester
Has anyone told Tina what a great job she does? Thank you Tina!
- Paul E. Ester
oh my gosh, how nice! Thank you for being here Paul.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good morning! Absolutely correct Paul!
- Robert Scoble
Also a big Tina fan ==>
- Laura Norvig
wow, is this my birthday? I'll have to check facebook!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's gonna be a short one today. At least for me. I gotta leave in 15 minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Tina is a star, yes
- Kevin Marks
My web-based twitter hasn't changed yet, as far as I can tell.
- Laura Norvig
the Path thing is a demographic thing. Rich, smart, techies use Apple products. That's all.
- Laura Norvig
From (very) recent experience, developing for the fragmented Android ecosystem is a pain in the ass, compared to iOS. That's why iOS seem to come first for devs.
- kosso
They've changed it so much, we, the people who made Twitter what it is today, will leave.
- kosso
they know we won't leave, we put up with the site being down half the time for years
- Kevin Marks
Testing is a pain the ass. SAP just announced delayed release of a community platform to two million users because of problems that showed up during late testing.
- Michael Krigsman
not testing is even more of a pain in the ass
- Kevin Marks
Twitter is now a product being led by too much money, managed by people searching for a business model, hiring too many people without a clue. IMHO
- kosso
Robert, life is about putting up with third parties we don;t like :-)
- Michael Krigsman
scoble has 4000 apps on his phone
- Kevin Marks
how/why is Path any better/different than what is already out there?
- Laura Norvig
just joined ... were you talking about the Kindle? the NOOK is where the action will be ..... Barnes & Noble owns or manages 57% of College Bookstores ..... think eTextbooks
- studentforce
the first iPhone didn't have apps...
- Kevin Marks
It's just a joke. But also a mathematical truism. http://norvig.com/norvigs...
- Laura Norvig
Te and Chai are the Mandarin and Cantonese ways of pronouncing the chinese character for Tea
- Kevin Marks
Twitter App's least common redesign buried retweets and @mentions http://daringfireball.net/2011...
- cliveb
hubspot is marketing WITH customers rather than at customers ... with metrics
- studentforce
ERP is dead is where you were going. Zuora ?????
- studentforce
there we go. in the past 5 minutes there were at least three references to SCHOOL and GRADES and textbooks !!!!!!
- studentforce
steve is pushing the rewind button of his mind
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I totally agree with that. gives the salesperson confidence that the time spent is worthwhile
- studentforce
nope. eloqua solved that problem. you are talking about retail .... has not trickled down yet.
- studentforce
i think Kevin was crying.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I had something in my eye
- Kevin Marks
kevin is using the dust in his yard to cover up the sobbing ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
steve's thunking about jillian tett's: men, woman - and machines (self curating rogue chatter bots)
- cliveb
social is the ability to 'work a room' digitally ?????
- studentforce
dead to me
- Kevin Marks
OR human beings are incredibly simply and somewhat stupid
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's hard to say what is dead or not dead, but easier to say what we want: clearly defined circles and noise controls so important signals always get to us when we need them.
- Laura Norvig
reportive ?
- studentforce
rapportive
- Kevin Marks
what I also want: less platforms.
- Laura Norvig
we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty, laura
- Kevin Marks
;-)
- Laura Norvig
thanks Kevin !!
- studentforce
to what degree does the ability to tweet begin to influence the events being tweeted about - did that make sense ??
- studentforce
smarter feedback loops
- Laura Norvig
you still need a baseline of connections to get your foot in the door
- Laura Norvig
ne1 doing a good job injecting social into ERP... (is there life on Mars)
- cliveb
"Mostly Harmless"
- kosso
how about that article
- Kevin Marks
home phones are dead
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I stopped answering my landline ages ago. 100% screened.
- Laura Norvig
You guys in the USA having to pay for incoming calls has to be the most ludicrous thing ever. I couldn't believe. It's kind of understandable for international roamers. but. still. Nuts.
- kosso
that's why the bill wont pass. gov doesnt want to be responsible for phone bills
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What OSS license will WebOS be done with? This question has yet to be answered.
- kosso
WebOS all depends on HP's open source governance, and their record is hardly pristine so far.
- Michael Mahemoff
yes, I'm assuming a sensible license there, not a Javaesque situation
- Kevin Marks
If they're smart, they'll go with a standard (permissive) license, not a weird legalese one-off license which doesn't fit into corporate policies.
- Michael Mahemoff
However, Amazon (and Facebook?) forking Android may have freaked them out against any possibility of a permissive license.
- Michael Mahemoff
Kevin: My results...We last saw Scoble 5969km away from you, 3 days ago.
- Alex de Soto
point is it's a web page that asks your location
- Kevin Marks
Chrome 16 introduced optional permissions (for apps/extensions) http://code.google.com/chrome... to stop everything having to be accepted upfront.
- Michael Mahemoff
curation tools
- studentforce
Second Economy (anchored off SF) http://blogs.parc.com/blog...
- cliveb
Live Gang - yay!
- cliveb
Evernote’s Skitch Sees 3 Million Downloads On Android http://techcrunch.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
Livegang sounds fun
- Paul E. Ester
Live Gang would be great!
- Alex de Soto
my son's birthday yesterday
- Kevin Marks
good show .... thanks!
- studentforce
happy birthday Kevin's son yesterday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry, but December babies are ill-timed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have two!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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