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Gillmor Gang Enterprise, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Dale Lature, Robert Scoble, Tina Chase Gillmor and 3 other people liked this
Who's the gang this week?
- Aron Michalski
I'm in the gang
- Kevin Marks
Hi Kevin, good deal.
- Aron Michalski
GG G+ Hangout testing soon...
- cliveb
I'm here.
- Robert Scoble
calling u now Robert
- Tina Chase Gillmor
next Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ready to rumble?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ipad ustreaming to appletv - anyone else try watching GG live like this?
- Ankush Narula
How is your tooth Kevin
- Francine Hardaway
I just put up a 3D video of 3D manfacturing at the World Economic Forum: https://plus.google.com/1110910...
- Robert Scoble
500hats~! 500FiretrUCKs
- cliveb
And will I get dizzy watching it?
- Francine Hardaway
try calling me back, looks like skypes dumped me down to 3 fps
- Kevin Marks
isn't the 3d backwards compatible (ie it uses fields on final cut)
- Kevin Marks
Francine: you can watch it in 3D.
- Robert Scoble
how does it look Ankush?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin: no. Doesn't work.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: my new camera records separate 1080i videos. Has two separate cameras.
- Robert Scoble
ah, I see
- Kevin Marks
Gray, our studio cat, is in love with mimi. They did not get thrown outside today, therefore they are running around and making noise. Thanks cats!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't get the big deal about apps, survey after survey shows that most people ignore them(on mobile) Consumers ignore most apps on their smartphones – USATODAY.com http://usat.ly/y20Sr1
- Stephen M
http://www.theverge.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
Collections of polyglot web apps make lock down inevitable (Heroku)
- cliveb
Stephen: absolutely false. That data is simply not right and is provably so.
- Robert Scoble
thats a pew survey.. reputable
- Stephen M
if this doesn't wrok, I'll go get an ethernet cable
- Kevin Marks
Change just comes much more slowly than anyone expects. People don't whip into apps on the desktop if they already have what they think is a satisfactory solution,
- Francine Hardaway
looks somewhat better Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
didn't someone make that app last year? http://isscobleinthisroom.com/
- Kevin Marks
Davie Morin's Tumblr http://bit.ly/wNJHDA
- cliveb
...aand now the jet noise starts...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
can you mute me round i or shoudl I? I think it's a prop plane
- Kevin Marks
Tina: it looks great - we need to get to HD so I can see Steve's individual whiskers
- Ankush Narula
Kevin: yeah, but that was a hack using Twitter's location. It rarely worked right. Highlight works very accurately.
- Robert Scoble
Polyglot enterprise web apps make sandboxing a good thing, w/o no x-collection privacy security.
- cliveb
Ankush, you do not want that!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
'Capability based security' is what you want rather than sandboxing
- Kevin Marks
was PATH available in Europe yet?
- Stephen M
Tina: I've fashioned my own white beard to pay tribute to him
- Ankush Narula
Stephen: I believe it was.
- Robert Scoble
the way Europe is about privacy i wonder if they will get in trouble over there for this address book problem
- Stephen M
ankush ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Andy Baio was warning about OAuth in Wired, which is blaming the wrong piece of the stack
- Kevin Marks
Lazy Fare FTW...
- Aron Michalski
tina - check your @mentions
- Ankush Narula
I don't think what Path did was all that bad.. I mean, you are using a mobile device, and the cell phone provider has to know where you are, who you are calling... you care about privacy, use a can and some string
- Stephen M
Ankush - looks nice indeed!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks for the peak
- Tina Chase Gillmor
maybe you should publish your setup featuring your favorite show, of course! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
will do
- Ankush Narula
Cool side note stat: 360,500 texts are sent every second from Nokia phones
- Stephen M
i think by installing social apps like fourSquare, Path, Highlight - you're implicitly opting in
- Ankush Narula
exactly
- Stephen M
there should certainly be disclosures about how your data is used up front - and there should be an option to delete your data - facebook sync for iphone was doing this - and then on their website they let you delete the synced data
- Ankush Narula
Stephen - is that a lot?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sounds like it...just for one brand... of course the service providers only see $$$
- Stephen M
Android intents, web intents are better than iOS model
- Kevin Marks
Windows 8 allows apps to talk to each other
- Stephen M
stephen: very true
- Ankush Narula
I watched online!
- Stephen M
the online experience was very nice
- Stephen M
Superbowl is tiny compared to the World cup final
- Kevin Marks
or even cricket
- Kevin Marks
Why don't they use the chat room that is attached to Ustream?
- Stephen M
FF is not dead yet, it was only a flesh wound
- Todd Hoff
Stephen: because.
- Robert Scoble
NBC Press Release about Superbowl viewer stats: http://www.nbcumv.com/mediavi...
- Ankush Narula
Stephen M: iOS apps can talk to each other through the cloud. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Steve has a cold and it makes his voise deeper and louder.... hard to control
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow 4.5 million streamed the super bowl online
- Stephen M
I need to admit that my former guilty pleasure "all My Children" is still missed by me. And I bare a crudge against ABC still
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it was powered by Silverlight
- Stephen M
NCIS has a great social media presence... a lot of the actors are on twitter, and tweet during the episode, or provide behind the scenes pics of episodes they are shooting
- Stephen M
crugde = grudge
- Tina Chase Gillmor
3D is so bogus
- Kevin Marks
fishtank video
- Kevin Marks
extreme close up, nerd version...
- Aron Michalski
no one would watch it on CNN anyway
- Stephen M
Robert has found the loudest, most boomy room to broadcast from
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin: it's very clear you weren't at CES and didn't look at the new OLED screens. They were AMAZING in 3D.
- Robert Scoble
my boys have been through arrested development that way
- Kevin Marks
The Hour really was excellent.
- Hilary Talbot
CBS and American Idol are making me want to watch their shows "Live"... the behind the scenes tweeting is really nice for their shows
- Stephen M
Kevin: I listed to an interview with Chris Columbus, the movie producer behind Harry Potter and he totally disagrees with you about 3D. Interesting that this argument is happening in lots of places.
- Robert Scoble
goodness, dump the dvd drive,
- cliveb
Chris Columbus, ohhh i didn't know u were that old ;)
- Stephen M
Stephen: different Columbus: http://www.imdb.com/name... is who I'm talking about. :-)
- Robert Scoble
ah the election... Republican primaries have been very interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he, i know.
- Stephen M
3D works when you have a very big screen that fills your visual field. without that it is a fishtank that reduces suspension fo disbelief as you can see the edges
- Kevin Marks
GetGlue does that
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: hold your computer closer to your face! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Interesting that Google is trying to develop a Home Entertainment O/S
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Android at Home?
- Stephen M
One good thing about the DNC coming to town, all the cell providers are improving their networks, or upgrading it!
- Stephen M
I prefer GetGlue.. you get real Stickers!
- Stephen M
motorola already ships loads of home entertainment boxes, and Google just bought them
- Kevin Marks
do you really care what other people are watching? particularly in the age of DVR?
- Ankush Narula
Highlight sounds a little like the flappers in Gulliver's Travels.
- Hilary Talbot
yes, because I can see them reating to it on twitter
- Kevin Marks
I do... some shows I have to watch when they air
- Stephen M
Steve + JP consumer web observations turns up in Chatter Timeline
- cliveb
Microsoft played around with this in the 90's. Looks like Google is looking to make this real. A complete Home O/S, controlling Media and Electrical Systems
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I only watch sports live - maybe Daily Show or Colbert if I'm awake and home - otherwise it's pretty much all on demand
- Ankush Narula
Stephen - which ones? award shows, yes?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
was the superbowl in 3d?
- Kevin Marks
only in Indianapolis ;-)
- Ankush Narula
No.. most of the shows on CBS.. each has a member of the cast or crew tweeting little behind the scenes information... especially NCIS..
- Stephen M
i like that stuff.
- Stephen M
and I'm in the advertiser friendly Demo, so i guess its working lol
- Stephen M
stephen - it's true - that's a fun activity
- Ankush Narula
Can't wait for the Grammy's either
- Stephen M
oooh BTW "The Good Wife" is an excellent show to watch anyway
- Stephen M
yay G+
- cliveb
deadmau5!
- Stephen M
wow: Updated: More Adults 18-49 Watched Last Friday’s ‘Fringe’ Time-Shifted Than Live - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers http://bit.ly/wr4reR
- Stephen M
thanks to all!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live 02.03.12 (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2012...
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The Gillmor Gang - Robert Scoble, John Taschek, Kevin Marks, and Steve Gillmor – are recording live at 1pm PT.
- Steve Gillmor
hello all
- Kevin Marks
I'm online there.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Kevin!
- Robert Scoble
Kevin, Steve says you aren't answering your Skype.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin - answer video ...
- John Taschek
John Battelle: http://battellemedia.com/archive...
- Robert Scoble
James Fallows: http://www.theatlantic.com/technol...
- Robert Scoble
Are you familiar with http://unhosted.org ?
- Itai Frenkel
Itai: nope, thanks.
- Robert Scoble
I wrote about it in my blog. It's a different business model for "free mobile apps".
- Itai Frenkel
In the future we will have algorithms that would extract the metadata from the data automatically. All the facebook "metadata" would be less a competitive advantage.
- Itai Frenkel
Gilmor - it could be backed up in the cloud, but still have different privacy settings (such as disallowing certain type of data mining)
- Itai Frenkel
Great show! I feel very rusty!
- Robert Scoble
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
SteVe C, AJ Batac :), Brent and 254 other people liked this
You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF!
- Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys.
- Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful！
- K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro.
- Louis Gray
Cool!
- Josh Haley
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret
- Ahsan Ali
Cool
- Nimaa
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
Nice addition!
- Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
That's a cool feature
- Xitong Liu
FWIW this isn't working for me any longer. Perhaps that has something to do with my Gmail settings though.
- Mark J
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I still get them.
- AJ Batac :)
I get these every day.
- NotdaBOTTurlokin4
FriendFeed Blog: Ben Darnell joins FriendFeed: Ben++! - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Kevin Mohr, Jimminy, CoG of FF, Brent and 108 other people liked this
Welcome, Ben!
- Kevin Fox
Right on! Congrats, Ben.
- Micah
Congrats Ben! Also, congrats to FF you are lucky to have him!
- Jason Shellen
Data storage and scalability rock. :)
- Louis Gray
Ben's feed is here: http://friendfeed.com/bdarnell
- Bret Taylor
Congrats, Ben! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah Ben!!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
so i finally get my answer to this :) http://friendfeed.com/chris...
- MG Siegler
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
more...
- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Woohoo! Another Googler :)
- Tim Hoeck
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
you're building a friendfeed army there :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congrats
- Özkan Altuner
Nice, any former Google Reader-er is a friend of mine.
- Mike Reynolds
gratz Ben!
- timepilot
Welcome Bret!
- Michael_techie
So, Facebook...?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Poor Ben Darnell. The last to enter are always the first to leave in mergers.
- beersage
Either that or he scored big time with some accelerated vesting.
- Ken Sheppardson
Hiring new staff while in secret acquisition talks, not exactly classy guys. I hope Ben knew what he was getting into
- Glenn Slaven
Why on earth does he use the Duck Hunt theme?
- Vezquex
I don't know.. but it is awesome! :)
- Tim Hoeck
Wow, looks like somebody bumped this!
- Kevin Fox
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
OH HAI!
- Eric - Temp Giants Fan
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
We added a few features you might have missed recently: support for imgur.com thumbnails (http://friendfeed.com/search...) and "Best of" for users/groups on the iPhone (http://friendfeed.com/iphone...)
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Rumors of FriendFeed's death are greatly exaggerated. (Thank you, Ben!)
- Stephen Mack
Thanks, guys :)
- Friendfeed's Francisco
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that.
- Stephen Mack
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both.
- Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it.
- Josh Haley
Thanks for the update Ben
- AJ Batac :)
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, I'm not sure we know that.
- Jesse Stay
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here.
- Bruce Lewis
not enough, best of day should be like a stream that can be traced back
- ffcode
ffcode: you can do that. Here is the "Best of week" from one year ago: http://friendfeed.com/summary...
- Benjamin Golub
thanks Benjamin
- ffcode
ITS ALIVE!!!!!!! MUH HA HA
- Roberto Bonini
The Secret Behind The Real-Time Web - YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is awesome!
- Christopher Chung
with a community like this - you just can't roll-it into f.b.. keep the dream alive!
- michael sean wright
:O
- Josh Haley
Amazing, thanks for that!
- dkb
According to Ross, they used about 1030 individual pictures in the final version. Stop motion is a lot of work :)
- Bret Taylor
Sure, sure--give away all the secrets. (Are those Lego dudes union?)
- Kathy Fitch
very creative. wonder how long it took to do that stop-action?
- berchman
Ross's best work so far ! great job Ross
- goutham
Major props to Ross and Dan. FriendFeed lives on
- Shane
That's priceless. Great job, guys.
- John Craft
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
Great project!
- Anne Bouey
AWESOME!
- Kevin Fox
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That is so awesome
- Glenn Slaven
happy-making!
- Felicia Yue
I am more proud than ever for being a FriendFeeder :)
- Arvind
Wow!!!!!
- Mona Nomura
Excellent!!
- Kol Tregaskes
That's great!
- Devon Govett
Cool! The friendfeed's manufactury
- Benedetto Vacca
неплохо, неплохо! Продолжение будет?
- atner
Lots of handshaking I see :)
- Nicholas Kreidberg
hahaha very nice stop motion and music!
- Alex Huinchucleffy
BUMP
- Roberto Bonini
FULL OF WIN
- Jac Falcon
Improve FriendFeed for your friends by recommending subscriptions - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Nice! Friends, please send me recommendations :)
- joey
Excellent feature, gooood idea!
- Susan Beebe
Very cool =)
- FFing Enigma
Cool stuff.
- Mike Bracco
gr8
- حاج مهدی ©
Uh, it tells me that Scoble, among others, could use the recommendations. WTF? Perhaps I have too few subscriptions for this to work.
- Fred Yankowski
more good stuff
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Finally a better recommendation
- directeur
I'd still love an "e-mail this item" feature, similar to Google Reader.
- Jesse Stay
great idea!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Cool! Beats the heck out of #followfriday!!
- Larry Hawes
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
User-driven...I like.
- Josh Haley
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
Definitely better than #followfriday.
- Bernie Goldbach
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
fatma küfür istiyor
- Joan Miro
FriendFeed API v2: Real-time, OAuth, file attachments, and more - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
OAuth? Sweet. Thanks a lot for all the new good stuff in the API: can't wait to use it.
- Mark Trapp
very nice. great work!
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Yet another reason to like Bret. :-)
- Jesse Stay
nice!
- Daniel Rust
good job guys, I bet devs are jumping high right now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Sweet, congrats!
- Ivan Zuzak
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Thanks God it is New API.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
from iPod
Nice progress here with this release!
- Micah
I love it!
- friday night
Why is wget questionable?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
cool : )
- Gurkan Oluc
Good work, look forward to seeing what developers can create
- Joe Dawson
doublepluslike
- Vezquex
curl FTW.
- Jeremy Kunz
This is great, FriendFeed team. Good job.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
thank you;) waiting for the release :) loving clone
- abdellah
from FriendFeed API Example
Yay subscribers exposed!
- EricaJoy
Finally OAuth, I had a hard time memorizing my remote key.
- Hugh Isaacs II
This is indeed very cool, anybody started on a c# version?
- Jesper Lind
still no mention of the 3G iPhone, incidentally
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"one more thing"
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
@Dean the "OMT" is coming.
- Steve Rubel
Good catch
- John Tyra
i'm willing to trade that for a new MBP
- Anthony Citrano
as anthony ha says "god, if there's no 3g iphone, there will be rioting in the virtual streets of the blogosphere"
- Eric Eldon
I really hope it's still coming. Otherwise Apple's stocks will drop as fast as a brick
- Andre Heinrichs
@eric, the native are getting hostile!
- MG Siegler
There is the announcement
- Andre Heinrichs
@mg they sure is!
- Eric Eldon
i smell it
- MG Siegler
it's coming
- Frederic
we ran out a few weeks ago
- Frederic
next 'challenges': 3g, enterprise, 3rd party apps, more countries
- Frederic
I missed it, damn cheering crowd!
- Gez
Cheeper iPhone!
- Gez
More countries for iPhone
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6 countries today - goal 12 countries, strech goal 25
- MG Siegler
how'd we do
- MG Siegler
hey it's like risk :)
- MG Siegler
It's a small world playing
- MG Siegler
LOTS of countries
- MG Siegler
people clapping along to song
- MG Siegler
yes Latvia!
- MG Siegler
is that the annoying small world song?
- Frederic
I can has iPhone nao?
- Andre Heinrichs
35 and counting
- MG Siegler
44
- MG Siegler
50
- MG Siegler
Lalala. Something to hear...
- Andre Heinrichs
everywhere?
- Frederic
so many african countries
- MG Siegler
can anyone see if Colombia is in the list?
- felix
cheers for india australia
- MG Siegler
Please, people don't scream that loud.
- Andre Heinrichs
70 countries - huge
- MG Siegler
@felix - I've already seen a bunch in Colombia :)
- Frederic
I'm SOO waiting for September when this baby launches in India!
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
Did I hear 70 countries?
- Andre Heinrichs
@Frederic, ahh nice! When I went last year wasn't so good... Glad it'll be better next time! Hopefully AT&T makes some deals with them. :)
- felix
Crap, not yet in Israel... At least not here: http://www.apple.com/iphone...
- Eitan Burcat
@Subhasish Vodafone's press statement a couple of months back was generic w.r.t. SE Asia which was assumed to include India. Bharati made an official press release with Tim Cook that they will be launching in India in partnership. What puzzles me is the speeds that they will be able to support on their networks. popular high speed 3G technologies are CDMA based, UMTS & HSDPA: http://www.apple.com/pr... Though this was in the print edition of yesterdays BS, I can't find it online.
- Parth Awasthi
Considering that I am a very frequent user even with crappy GPRS speeds on my crummy (for browsing) SE; I will appreciate anything that is even trivially better.
- Parth Awasthi
from twhirl
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PDT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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standby .... racking everyone up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Robert - you went offline?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sorry, crashed. Up now.
- Robert Scoble
google blocked themselves from search
- Kevin Marks
hang on though haven't they failed to rank for 'search engine'
- Kevin Marks
can they still put a 'download chrome' link on the home page?
- Kevin Marks
After all that discussion -- Steve's original question -- what does this really mean?
- Brian Sullivan
practically won? 25% of vote...
- Kevin Marks
Nothing practically is my guess.
- Brian Sullivan
CES.. it ain't what it used to be.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If John would sit up higher I could maybe get his name under him without cutting his mouth off ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I am not going to CES this year
- Francine Hardaway
YES
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's a fade out
- Kevin Marks
A crisis -- a RIM style crisis -- I think not.
- Brian Sullivan
Windows Use Slides 2% Per Year; Mobility May Wedge It Farther and Faster - Lens360 http://bit.ly/ywZ4KQ
- John Taschek
I wish we could stop talking about patent lawsuits
- Francine Hardaway
vinyl sales up 44% in the UK last year
- Kevin Marks
BPI figures: https://docs.google.com/spreads...
- Kevin Marks
Were we not doing the Gillmor Gang in ''89? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin is always outside!
- Laura Norvig
the dogs are barking inside
- Kevin Marks
Robert locked up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have to reboot. Be right back.
- Robert Scoble
Getting a new improved Robert up!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The cloud is eating TV - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- John Taschek
The first Friday of 2012 and weird stuff started happening to the gang ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
I'm back up.
- Robert Scoble
HBO says cord cutting is a “temporary phenomenon”, HBO Go to stay tied to cable | VentureBeat http://bit.ly/yda1FE
- Stephen M
BItTorrent launched a new app called Share
- Kevin Marks
PhotoMatix is amazing HDR software
- Susan Beebe
my hands are super cold today. not nimble enough
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay needs to be explained better, good point.
- Susan Beebe
it's OK John
- Tina Chase Gillmor
AirPlay needs to be accessible from the Mac Pro
- Francine Hardaway
I thought Kevin said two lapdogs in the same room, but he actually said laptops #british accent
- Francine Hardaway
hahah :D
- Susan Beebe
I have 2 lapdogs too
- Kevin Marks
Directv has twitter and facebook integrated into their guide
- Stephen M
:) but are they connected? lol
- Susan Beebe
i tried it once, and i annoyed the other people watching tv with me
- Stephen M
right stephen, more than one screen is important
- Kevin Marks
what about ubuntu tv?
- Alex Williams
when Scrabble did the 'iPad for the board and iphones for the tiles" thing, it was funny, but the idea of shared plus private is important
- Kevin Marks
there is talk about ubuntu tv getting launched at ces. can it make a play?
- Alex Williams
Ubuntu? u mean linux? the OS widely known for their outstanding UI?
- Stephen M
XBOX 360 with one of the LIve TV partners is a great way to watch TV.. you just talk to it
- Stephen M
Unity is the Ubuntu UI - hated by the faithful meant for the masses.
- Alex Williams
My 70 year old mom loves her ViZio with the built in Netflix..she doesn't have to switch inputs, just just presses the Netflix button on the remote
- Stephen M
did you see the Doctor Who Literal Video of Total Eclipse of the Heart?
- Kevin Marks
And this 70 year old mom likes her AppleTV with the built in Netflix. She has trained herself (pant pant) to switch inputs. Could it be easier, I suppose. Is it great as it is, Yes.
- Francine Hardaway
Just "tuning" in and yay, sounds like this Gang is another TV show. I like those.
- Amyloo
ooooo, Kevin schooled Steve in vocabulary today. Interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hey Amy!
- Hilary Talbot
I'm not sure I want everything on one screen. I like having two screens: the iPad, the TV.
- Francine Hardaway
I don't mind 'pressing input"... thats why i hooked up a HTPC to my TV... Windows Media Center is nice
- Stephen M
Hil! Hi! Hil Hi Hil Hi Hil Hi Hil.
- Amyloo
networks can't block that :)
- Stephen M
lol - still works!
- Hilary Talbot
people still watch CNN?
- Stephen M
Did I miss any SOPA discussion? Planned blackout, etc?
- Laura Norvig
Let's talk SOPA. Why the news blackout from NBC? Hmm...
- Alex Williams
Tablet in a Minute: AirPlay Mirroring and how to watch Hulu Plus on the Apple TV http://bit.ly/AqZbfz
- Stephen M
An Airplay Crash? How novel
- Francine Hardaway
Airplay crash, call in the NSTB investigative team
- Amyloo
Al Gore.. funny
- Susan Beebe
occupy SOPA
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Alex, I meant the plans to turn sites blank on January 26th or whatever date.
- Laura Norvig
haha Tina :)
- Susan Beebe
I finally have audio-only feed, hi everyone! Happy New Year from Kaula Lumpur (for this week). Am hearing a lot of talk about TV...the reason I go online is to get away from TV. Oh the irony. :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Recording industry dismisses alternate SOPA like bill proposed by Issa and Wyden http://bit.ly/AnOpLx
- Stephen M
Oh, you are just being an Angry Elf complaining about Elf availability :)
- Charlie Isaacs
I remember the BSA. I thought it was BS with very little A
- Francine Hardaway
Good question, Steve. How will SOPA affect how enterprise uses social tech?
- Alex Williams
isn't apple a part of BSA too?
- Stephen M
black bile or yellow bile
- Kevin Marks
get a VPN that exits in the UK and you can watch iPlayer, Danny
- Kevin Marks
http://www.bsa.org/country... <--list of Companies that are BSA members and by association support SOPA
- Stephen M
Whoa.. I'm realllly late..
- Kevin Costain
is this danny's story: http://www.npr.org/2012...
- Kevin Marks
based on public comments Microsoft has a legit claim against Comet
- Stephen M
that is huge!
- Laura Norvig
pushed to perform piracy. sounds nasty
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kid's table panel LOL
- Susan Beebe
hmm...
- Kevin Costain
AT&T will be showing a 4G LTE Powered WIndows 8 tablet running Qualcomm
- Stephen M
chips
- Stephen M
sorry, scoble, no do-overs!
- Laura Norvig
what is that poker game, danny?
- Alex Williams
Stephen: will the battery life suck like it does on the Galaxy Nexus?
- Robert Scoble
which GN... CDMA or GSM?
- Stephen M
Will there ever be an Android phone that doesn't have crappy battery life?
- Kevin Costain
a really big one
- Kevin Marks
lol
- Susan Beebe
does the galaxy nexus run on a qualcomm chip(Snapdragon)?
- Stephen M
snapdragons seem to have better battery life.
- Stephen M
My Nexus S's battery life is crappppy
- Kevin Costain
DigiView digitizer wow that is old
- Susan Beebe
My HTC Titan's battery goes all day with heavy use
- Stephen M
AT&T LTE is excellent..if anyone wants to know
- Stephen M
Well, that was short (for me).. thanks everyone.. :)
- Kevin Costain
true that.. my eVO would only last a few hours
- Stephen M
i do miss the unlimited data tho :(
- Stephen M
What's the practical battery limit (normal to heavy use) of an iPhone 4S?
- Kevin Costain
bye
- Stephen M
CDMA or GSM? i think that makes a difference too
- Stephen M
I would be using GSM typically.. there are bunch of factors anyway right.. wifi, bluetooth..
- Kevin Costain
I CDMA
- uki purnama
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Standing by, waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
while that is happening ... Happy and Healthy New Year to all !!!
- studentforce
Robert you'll be next. tuning up Mike's audio now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, just hanging out reading the non news of the week.
- Robert Scoble
kevin... if you're around please turn on your video
- Tina Chase Gillmor
wow we
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry for delay everyone...aboutto go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We're having technical difficulties. Please stand by.
- Robert Scoble
Hello all - this is the right time of day for me for once :)
- Nick Halstead
wo! triple echo
- studentforce
are you all hearing an echo?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
just went away. thanks ... whatever you did
- studentforce
I'm not hearing an echo.
- Robert Scoble
didn't do a thing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry about being late, I had 1pm in my head
- Kevin Marks
john t and I had a discussion via email about the kindle fire last night ... amazon is going to be 2012/2013 NEWS re: eTextbooks
- studentforce
Hi, from the UK. (albeit I'm n Poland..long story)
- Scott Jones
hey thanks for the party invite!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
re: apps vs. browsers .... Mobile users lean toward apps over browsers [study]
- studentforce
Windows Phone won't take off. In the UK its all about Apple and Android/Google. In Europe (outside of the UK pretty much) NO ONE has an Apple...its quite astounding. Its all about Google.Android and nothing to do with Apple..which is interesting
- Scott Jones
In for the last "Gang" of the year.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Scott: everytime I'm in Europe I see iPhones all over the place. I don't know what Europe you live in.
- Robert Scoble
Samsung has already shipped a million tablets with styluses: http://venturebeat.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
ask a student what Microsoft means to them .... my prediction is that at least a third will ask: 'what is microsoft'
- studentforce
I think one of Microsoft's imperatives has to be making TOUCH versions of all thier flagship apps..
- Kevin Costain
...again with the parties!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That *is* a big indictment. I would think someone would get one just to be contrarian.
- Bruce Lewis
Heh Robert. Talking about Central Europe. I'm British but have been through Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc and in this part of Europe there are zero iPhones/iPads and basically no Apple. But every 15 year old kid in all these countries has an android phone. Apple dont exist in the new Europe. Which is surprising. I had to get a Samsung as I couldnt get an Apple. But MS....well...they have no chance in Europe.
- Scott Jones
also for MS to migrate their shit into the cloud MARGINS will be effected big time and that is assuming they execute flawlessly: http://www.businessweek.com/news...
- studentforce
I wish Steve was more Italian and used his hands to talk more ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's always a "new" world though. There was a time when Android didn't exist at all in this "new" world. Things change. Never say never. :)
- Kevin Costain
Are people talking about Roku much? One of my users was asking for a Roku channel.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I see Roku come up here and there. But this is a pretty heavy Android iOS show.
- Robert Scoble
Must say..i dont have a TV anymore
- Scott Jones
coffee anyone?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
monitors not expensive any more
- Kevin Marks
I've not had cableTV service in almost a decade..
- Kevin Costain
Scott: I'm watching TV less and less. I look at it as a huge ass monitor.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder though, when are we going to get a set-top box that can be as FLEXIBLE as simply using a computer?
- Kevin Costain
not according to my comcast support rep ....
- studentforce
Robert, what tele are you using, a Vizio 3D?
- Nir Ben Yona
spectrum plus CONTENT
- studentforce
Nir: yup!
- Robert Scoble
Occupy Broadband!
- Todd Hoff
Robert: Wow. Cool.
- Nir Ben Yona
last names only please!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...Glad I caught the last GG of 2011 - ...love you guys - 2012 needs more high power women in tech, BTW - Hey John, Scobes, Mark - ...and Hey SG!
- Rocky Barbanica
OK Gillmor! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Hi Rocky!
- Bruce Lewis
Know what you mean Robert. What's interesting though is I now stream and download everything...erm..for free. Monitisation is an issue for companies I would say
- Scott Jones
When the edge is so powerful, does an edge to core strategy really make sense?
- Todd Hoff
oh no....it's a streaming show again. oh noooooo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
come on, no offence, lets ot have a blooming streaming conversation again! ;) x
- Scott Jones
Hey Bruce!
- Rocky Barbanica
heheh
- Rocky Barbanica
Mark... heheh - I meant Hey Kevin MARKs
- Rocky Barbanica
Rocky!!!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hi Rocky
- Kevin Marks
TINA !!! Happy New Year, Doll !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
its a sereis of local monopolies
- Kevin Marks
Netflix peaked in 2011. Streaming video's becoming a commodity with Comcast, Amazon, Vudu... Netflix is actually falling behind in terms of first run films.
- Ken Sheppardson
Happy New Year, btw :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
awww Rocky. Thanks and to you and yours!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
$5 for the Louis CK show... you get two downloads or 2 chances to stream it.
- Kevin Costain
You have to build the audience first via discovery on the aggregators. Louis CK wouldn't have sold what he did without basic cable.
- Ken Sheppardson
I paid $5 to watch it.. :)
- Kevin Costain
I paid $5
- Kevin Marks
I'll bet you 99% of the folks who gave Louis CK knew him from basic cable already.
- Ken Sheppardson
weird we have a Lewis CK model now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think Louis CK made the money for production costs on the shows themselves (RE: Rolling Stone's article on his recent shows).. the money he made on the online special was allot more gravy..
- Kevin Costain
Ken: I think you're right now - but that will change. It is changing.
- Kevin Costain
People don't realize how good OTA quality is now that they've gone digital.
- Bruce Lewis
I knew louis CK from youtube
- Kevin Marks
I have no idea what Steve just said
- Kevin Marks
Bruce: I can't use OTA, got a mountain in between me and the antennas.
- Robert Scoble
I knew Louis KC from Pootie Tang.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Kevin: YouTube of his Conan appearances or cable shows?
- Ken Sheppardson
As business models content and conduit should always be separate, but look at Comcast they are trying to do both
- Stephen Pickering
Croquet
- Kevin Marks
Rounders - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Nick Halstead
hes Nick
- Kevin Marks
CROQUET !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
hee hee nick
- Kevin Marks
Predict THIS - Rocky's running for Pacifica City Counsel 2012
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert, if you live in Half Moon Bay the view looks better than anything that would be on TV anyway. :-) But seriously, I think the percentage of cable use should be lower given the signal available to a lot of people now.
- Bruce Lewis
ROCKY LANDSLIDE!
- Bruce Lewis
HEH - LANDSLIDE isn't a very good Coastline platform - especially in Pacifica ! :-)
- Rocky Barbanica
Have you read Interface by Neal Stephenson?
- Kevin Marks
I think Reich is on to something with a Biden/Clinton swap on the Democratic side
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm campaigning for Rocky!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeehaw! I GOT this, now - !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
It's like waking up and realizing you've been sold a lie all your life that we are the most special country and we run it on real principles, and we have a real democracy. At least these tools allowed us to wake up and see how fake the so called 'establishment' really are
- Stephen Pickering
Borthwick keeps sinking into the floor
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Isn't robert talking about the US economy conversion from manufacturing to an information/service economy ??
- studentforce
much like in the 1920's when we converted from agriculture to manufacturing ???
- studentforce
There is really no one talking for, or representing the 99% of the population.
- Kevin Costain
studentforce: yes.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: and that's the power they had. Not sure they really used it well.
- Robert Scoble
I think the OWS activities were just a starting point.. that is probably a sign of things to come.. I wonder if we'll see a full-scale revolt somehow. or even if that is possible.. ?
- Kevin Costain
That would be 'crony' capitalism or in Russia Oligarchy?
- Stephen Pickering
Robert Scoble: what's unfortunate is that each 'conversion' or migration caused MAJOR economic upheaval.
- studentforce
The Black Bloc is also the darker side of all this stuff.... I don't know what it all means.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Godaddy testified to congress in favor of SOPA. When they testify against I'll be satisfied. Blog posts don't cut it.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble on Reuters - Tech Trends for 2012 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Rocky Barbanica
Friday at 9 or Friday at 1pm better?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...for this show
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: are they both really that different (just a matter of timing), no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin You're right, I think. They are the same, just different names in American and Russia.
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin is a British spy. Just figured that out.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
radicals!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Giving the number of millionaires and people in power - it's clear that those with most of the money are likely to hold most of the power. They are few.
- Kevin Costain
LOL
- Rocky Barbanica
haha.. Bond, James Bond.. :)
- Kevin Costain
personalities are not leaders. Social media is the leader
- Tina Chase Gillmor
there was a chap a College called Kingsmill La Touche Godfrey Bond - best spy name ever
- Kevin Marks
the meme is the leader
- Kevin Marks
the Guy Fawkes mask is the leader
- Kevin Marks
You can look at it as "no leader" or look at it as more people exercising leadership skills -- the Yosemite trip being a good example.
- Bruce Lewis
"A penny for the old Guy."
- Stephen Pickering
Perhaps whatever is in FRONT of the masses, is the leader. It could be anything really, no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin, no, no, no, the whole meme is getting away from the power of the Lowest Common Denominator
- Stephen Pickering
I think eventually we'll see the rise of fake people leading masses (like that fake pop star in Japan).. humans created virtually to lead the masses..
- Kevin Costain
yes Stephen: "TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace
- Kevin Marks
Wow, Kevin Marks, love that quote
- Stephen Pickering
"Just because something is dead, doesn't mean it's gone" <--- funny :)
- Kevin Costain
it's from E Unibus Pluram, his essay on TV which is well worth reading in full
- Kevin Marks
Yeah, I definitely will. Thanks
- Stephen Pickering
Email is dead. Long live email?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Having set up filtering, Scobleizer will spend less time in email but get more value from it.
- Bruce Lewis
Email is most definitely NOT dead. Normal people are still learning how to use it.
- Kevin Costain
I lost Borthwick!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The only way I know how to get ahold of anyone directly is via email. Every other method is like waving frantically at someone while they are speeding away and their windows are tinted.
- Todd Hoff
Email's just as dead as paper.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Right, and NOBODY uses that ancient technology anymore.
- Kevin Costain
Exactly
- Ken Sheppardson
please help me get this out there http://www.creativeartscharter.org/news...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE !!!
- Rocky Barbanica
Thanks everyone.. Have a happy and safe New Year... see you all next year!
- Kevin Costain
gzunt tite !! (sp?)
- studentforce
Thanks, Happy New Year!
- Robert Scoble
The ending sneeze - perfect!
- Rocky Barbanica
Last sneeze of 2011!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks to everyone... always...for the whole year!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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about to go live
- Steve Gillmor
Waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
Waiting also -- with a different audio/camera connection .. see how that works.
- John Taschek
Hey this works out very well. Get to watch live for once (9 to 5er in Central time). Plus, bonus! As I'm loading up the Kindle Fire I got for my parents, there are all these real geeks in chat to whom I can ask questions.
- Amyloo
almost up...holiday delay ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
did the xmas tree fall over?
- Kevin Marks
I'm hooked on, just a couple more minutes...
- Robert Scoble
What are you hooked on? Are you sharing?
- Charlie Isaacs
now putting xmas tree back up
- cliveb
Robert is hooked on life!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hooked on Classics - famous in their day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- John Taschek
he's hooked on videodrenaline
- Charlie Isaacs
Hooked on big screens and apps, of course!
- Robert Scoble
john trying to reach you. call newsgang4 on video
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...and by John I mean Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doesn't show you're live. Let me try again.
- John Taschek
I'll tell Christmas jokes while we are waiting to stall for time. Did you hear that one of Santa's reindeer now works for Proctor and Gambel? [Its true, Comet cleans sinks!]
- Charlie Isaacs
we're up JOhn
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What nationality is Santa Claus? [North Polish.]
- Charlie Isaacs
Who delivers Christmas presents to dogs? Santa Paws
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone seems to have started the holidays early
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What did the buck say to the doe on Christmas Day? Merry Christmas, Dear!
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie's rocking the xmas jokes
- cliveb
What did Larry want for Christmas? Two more search engines and 3 more Knowledge Management Systems
- Charlie Isaacs
Howdy y'all.
- Nir Ben Yona
Happy Birthday Ella!
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't tip the booze in the Tricaster
- cliveb
Oops, Scoble's mic was hot during that Harde comment :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Is it chai or cha?
- Michael Mahemoff
That was supposed to be a joke, sorry
- Charlie Isaacs
Merry Christmas, War is Over
- Kevin Marks
Lapsang souchong
- Kevin Marks
hi Robert - I'm joining the show live now too :)
- Ramon Ray
Flipscam hehehheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
I have a way of seeing music from friends called http://www.last.fm/user...
- Kevin Marks
ok Im drinking coffee ....maybe there's some kalua in it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we gonna talk about rypple ??
- studentforce
Favorite enterprise tech - Nodejs?
- cliveb
cliveb: definitely! studentforce: absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
Steve's boss (Marc Benioff) says we must listen to this video from wil.i.am: http://youtu.be/vjIwmJMqrco
- Robert Scoble
it aint LOGISTICS !!!
- studentforce
FedEx said that they used the incident as a "learning experience"
- Charlie Isaacs
like Google and Firefox?
- Kevin Marks
Xbox launches the Xphone and Xtv http://bit.ly/s71Qk1 (tongue in cheek)
- cliveb
said that their product GA schedule was misaligned with the conference. bullshit !
- studentforce
CES feels stale
- cliveb
i just rented the spce and will be doing the keynote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- studentforce
hey cliveb I added sound effects to that FedEx video for fun :) http://youtu.be/PDF52CG71ug
- Charlie Isaacs
Exactly, Scobleizer is more real-time
- cliveb
he/she didin't buy enough this year (Best underBuy!)
- studentforce
CES is about Android.
- Charbax
Charbax: I think Mobile World Congress is a far bigger deal for Android.
- Robert Scoble
Best Buy really blew it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple/Microsoft don't want to compete. They only want to use anticompetitive tactics and bogus patent lawsuits, they are desperate.
- Charbax
Year Robert, MWC is an even bigger Android show just a month later.
- Charbax
Tina, agree on Best Buy, that is going to hurt them
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie - the old adage ship via FedX for less handling!
- cliveb
Last year there were 1500 booths at CES showcasing Android devices, 32 with Windows related devices, this year there'll be over 2500 booths at CES showcasing Android stuff and even fewer Windows Phone
- Charbax
android isn't just about phones any more
- Kevin Marks
Don’t make Amazon a monopoly... http://on.ft.com/sUsxfK
- cliveb
Google launched Google Video on a CES keynote
- Charbax
shoot I missed John doing a moose impression ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Googlet demonstrated honeycomb at the last CES http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Charlie Isaacs
my guess $40 Million (or something like that) for the main pre keynote and biggest hall and promo materials, my guess Google will take it next year
- Charbax
Steve is drinking out of his John Lennon glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the question for me is how many non-phone, non-tablet devices are running android charbax. Cameras, TVs, photo frames, etc
- Kevin Marks
Tell him to say "All we are saying is give peace a chance
- Charlie Isaacs
It sure as hell will never be Nokia ;) I agree Google will do it the year after next ... if the world hasn't ended.. obviously ;)
- kosso
Yeah Kevin, I wonder at which point Canon/Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/JVC start putting Android in their DSLR and point and shoots and camcorders, provide photo apps, direct picasa/flickr uploads. Maybe Google releases ARM Powered Google TV, Android laptops, Android platform for E Ink ereaders
- Charbax
My Jawbone Up told me that I was lethargic so I attached it to the back of Lance's bike
- Charlie Isaacs
within a year most HDTVs will have Google TV integrated
- Charbax
ARM Powered Google TV costs only $25 in parts to add to a HDTV including a 1080p webcam for Google+ Hangouts
- Charbax
War Is Over, Merry Christmas
- Kevin Marks
if Apple does a HDTV, I hope it's a Quad-HD 2160p 55" for less than $2000
- Charbax
HTC monday @ gtug (mostly Android) http://4sq.com/uiJIe0
- cliveb
But it is a good point. If stream is becoming limited by infrastructure provider plans and caps; why isn't that being solved by anyone. Last mile is limited. Spectrum is limited. What is the innovation to infrastructure that will solve it? Is anyone working on these to give us hope?
- Michael A. Romig
It'll work with White Spaces
- Charbax
plug in wires and it might work
- Jerome Hughes
WiFi spectrum was mean to use for micro ovens
- Charbax
zero wifi in the main room at le web unless you're on the ethernet tables
- Michael Mahemoff
the apple time capsule will act as a dual bandwidth access point. 2.4 and 5
- kosso
run wires to the TVs
- Kevin Marks
Homeland is good too
- Charbax
indeed: "Wires Work" ;)
- kosso
Spooks is the best show on TV (MI-5)
- Kevin Marks
"Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue" -- Arianna Huffington
- Charlie Isaacs
Boss !
- studentforce
"MI5"?? You mean "Spooks" !! :)
- kosso
Game of Thrones.. meh... Sean Bean can only play 'Sean Bean'.
- kosso
I typed Spooks
- Kevin Marks
lol
- kosso
You have to search for MI5 on netflix
- Kevin Marks
I gather the word 'spooks' has different, non-politically-correct connotations in the USA ;)
- kosso
CNN streams as does Al Jezerra (sp?) to my iPad
- studentforce
Before they lost every domain in existence
- Michael Mahemoff
There's 10 seasons of spooks?
- Charbax
Who owns Godaddy? Didn't they sell to someone recently?
- Charbax
yes, new CEO
- Kevin Marks
GoDaddy caved, and said they'll sit back and see what everyone else thinks - for now. Todd Cochrane from Geek News Central had a phone interview with Warren Adelman, the new GoDaddy CEO.
- kosso
KKR and Silver Lake Partners and Technology Crossover Ventures
- Charlie Isaacs
I think it's time Google got in to the Domain registration and DNS management business.
- kosso
@kosso - of course Sean Bean is no longer on the show ...
- John Taschek
I don't know how anyone was still on GoDaddy in the first place
- Michael Mahemoff
their advertising, especially
- Jerome Hughes
Easy to attack and also easy to move away from
- Michael Mahemoff
KKR and Silver Lake Partners paid $2.25 billion for Godaddy, maybe they want SOPA
- Charbax
I still have about 100 domains with them
- kosso
Why use GoDaddy when you can use Rackspace #shamelessplug
- Charlie Isaacs
I have google apps domains that are white label GoDaddy ones
- Kevin Marks
Wait a sec. They "caved", but if you read the press release they admit their General Counsel, Christine Jones, helped write it. Does anyone really think they are doing a full reversal here?
- Michael A. Romig
Would you buy domains from Google? And manage your DNS records through them? I would.
- kosso
Or NameCheap #shamelessfan
- Michael Mahemoff
Charlie: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
I do kosso, but they whitelabel through GoDaddy
- Kevin Marks
Google is technically an ICANN-accredited registrar
- Michael Mahemoff
it's about how many in that market take actions that are measurable
- Jerome Hughes
I'd like to host my wordpress and phpbb on Google App Engine and have Google handle domains too
- Charbax
I suggest http://hover.com/tummel Tucows (who sponsor my podcast)
- Kevin Marks
Kevin : interesting. I didn't know they did that. I think Google should do it all themselves. They could also strike some interesting info/ad deals for content etc.. it would be an interesting market. As if (someone like) GoDaddy got in to advertising a la adsense.
- kosso
baidu
- kosso
Maybe the content intermediaries don't want to loose their grip on the multi-trillion dollar content/influence industries
- Charbax
@ValaAfshar 1m What you need to know about SOPA (Stop Online Privacy Act) in 2012 - @rww rww.to/vDqJHv.
- studentforce
social media upends sopa...
- cliveb
Instead of SOPA our esteemed leadership should take out the evil Patent Trolls
- Charlie Isaacs
just move to Switzerland, we legalized piracy here last month
- Charbax
Even a Swiss watch is correct twice a day :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
The Internet Wins: Go Daddy Flip-Flops On SOPA by @JonMwords http://rww.to/u3UgwM
- studentforce
maybe Obama should just announce he'd veto any SOPA bill, that'd give him some online support
- Charbax
Then that lends credence to the SOPA purpose being much broader that safe havens. Like Forbes "The Gread SOPA Conspiracy" goo.gl/exQTR. The content providers want more "controls".
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie, definitely: Take out the evil Patent Trolls
- cliveb
yeah! aha! that password is gonna protect you
- studentforce
your printer cartridge is full, but too old
- Jerome Hughes
I think you are the victim of being an early adopter, not a conspiracy of dis-operability. Scoble's HDMI example aside.
- Michael A. Romig
We'll create an encrypted darknet if they try to block stuff, the prob is maybe they'll block or slow down all packets that look like they may be used for accessing the whole darknet
- Charbax
HDCP damages signal ON PURPOSE
- Kevin Marks
@Robert Same goes for fake Apple peripherals , they simply don't work anymore on Cupertino's iDevices.
- Nir Ben Yona
I have this image in my mind of Tina standing behind Steve with a whip making him ride faster on the exercise bike.
- Charlie Isaacs
as long as the content comes out of speakers and is displayed on the screen, it can be pirated
- Charbax
even new Macbooks have look ahead signal processor stopping streaming to > 1 daisy chained device (good luck at conferences)
- cliveb
SOPA companies can't yet install DRM in our ears and eyes
- Charbax
we only want to fly these drones over potential crime scenes
- Jerome Hughes
http://epeus.blogspot.com/2002... Charbax
- Kevin Marks
on the moon? I thought my expenses were bad
- Kevin Marks
4K2K Apple TV for under $2K, bring it on
- Charbax
Apple brings in a much bigger base than slingbox and legitimacy. People will partner with Apple rather than go to guns against them.
- Michael A. Romig
DRM Helmets - dang!
- cliveb
Charlie that's funny but instead I would like to get the bike to power the tv. If you keep the pace... no problem. If you get slow the picture deteriorates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My smartphone poll: http://gopollgo.com/will-yo... Interesting demographic detail.
- Robert Scoble
my guess an Apple TV won't support DivX and MKV
- Charbax
+1 Tina (I need that for my son...) :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Plus I seemed to have misplaced my whip ;-(
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DoubleTwist will stream to AirPlay at the moment
- Kevin Marks
TWCable TV for iPad as another example. But I still won't buy cable from them having been "unplugged" now for several years.
- Michael A. Romig
Christmas is coming Tina
- Charlie Isaacs
voice controlled tv will come from Apple. Via Siri(ish)
- kosso
on the 6th day of Christmas my true-love gave to me... a bullwhip a crackin'
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If the set-top-box hardware costs $50 external and $25 internal, these types of functionalities aren't really a differentiator on a $1000-$2000 HDTV
- Charbax
Wifi is the standard, but maybe it shouldn't be. Why couldn't the market crack the WiMax nut, for example. What about the latest wireless bluetooth, will that compete?
- Michael A. Romig
you can maybe use ethernet over power line in your home http://www.frys.com/product...
- Charbax
Scoble is like MS Applications, consumes all available memory and network bandwidth
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone in Paris is getting a gigabit/s to the home, they are pulling cables through the Paris sewer system
- Charbax
Yeah the problem in Europe is you can take a short train ride to the conference and you're paying silly international rates for 3G
- Michael Mahemoff
More Open spectrum is a very good answer.
- Michael A. Romig
I heard T-Mobile is available now, they have available spectrum
- Charlie Isaacs
CCNx routers - Van Jacobson
- cliveb
Only in iPad 2 and iPhone 4S devices.
- Nir Ben Yona
do I need to move to Paris?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Dale J. Stephens @DaleJStephens 1m Nothing is more aggravating that not being able to communicate due to lack of Internet access.
- studentforce
ipad mirroring uses few kilobits/second, a HDMI out cable can use 20Gbps
- Charbax
Ask Apple to add an HDMI output on your iphone
- Charbax
Enterasys will http://www.enterasys.com/product...
- studentforce
cat 5
- Charlie Isaacs
It could happen, but it is the early adopter problem again. All it takes are those chips that support on the fly packet inspection and prioritization to get commoditized into home devices. Of course you can do that today with higher-end network solutions. Just not your house. So I'm thinking demand just isn't there yet for the market to give you what you want.
- Michael A. Romig
Enterasys RoamAbout® wireless offerings
- studentforce
I think the demand will grow very fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android devices use the MHL connector/dock which is up to 20Gbps over HDMI, mirroring can't really compete with that. Mirroring is for glorified remote controlling
- Charbax
Scoble has an OC192 coming into his house
- Charlie Isaacs
I think you should end the show NOW !!
- studentforce
watch-out for DRM in Tricaster HD...
- cliveb
Apple doesn't want to include HDMI outputs cause they want you to buy extra devices
- Charbax
some of us have been doing this with wires and projectors for many years
- Jerome Hughes
if you have a popular YouTube account they encode your HD videos in realtime
- Charbax
are you holding your iphone with your left hand?
- Charbax
Scoble ran cables out of his windows and down the stairway
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: nope. Just wifi. But my airport express is right over my downstairs TV.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the politicians/Obama are corrupt
- Charbax
Apple needs to copy Sonos. I have Sonos setup in 8 rooms with Spotify and MOG and zero issues with wireless. They use their own mesh network in the house.
- Jim Long
Just use http://www.frys.com/product... and a second WiFi router
- Charbax
Politicians are persuadable by face to face speech. Trouble is that most people they talk to face to face are lobbyists.
- Kevin Marks
Google/Apple/M$/Intel/HP need to put the Billions on the table and buy congress
- Charbax
Hey now. We have several congressmen that overlap in Austin. Remember this just came down: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... so it all has to be redone.
- Michael A. Romig
@Jim - love Sonos.
- John Taschek
the political conversation is coming back... do I smell a NewsGang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple and Microsoft support SOPA? http://venturebeat.com/2011...
- Charbax
michael - find out when Lamar is appearing in public over xmas and talk to him
- Kevin Marks
@charbax powerline is not all that great, and very unpredictable. A better solution is MOCA if you want to get to other rooms and have coax.
- Jim Long
can you talk about sex and religion when you are done with politics? :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
invite Arianna on the show next time?
- Charbax
is robert drinking whisky out of a jamjar?
- Kevin Marks
cider here.
- kosso
Authentic local Somerset cider here in the UK.
- kosso
Created by Jon Lech - aka "DVD Jon"
- kosso
DoubleTwist.. obviously.. not the cider ;)
- kosso
First World Problems: http://www.reddit.com/r...
- Michael A. Romig
SOPA : Stop Online Piracy Act
- kosso
How about Second World Problems?
- Kevin Marks
Correct! It looks too much like Google Plus (Quora)
- kosso
Propitious Yuletide
- Kevin Marks
Happy Hogswatch
- Kevin Marks
Jolly Holidays!
- kosso
irreverent toast to all unfollow scripts
- cliveb
Kevin: I use Reidel glasses to drink my whisky.
- Robert Scoble
Happy Happy everyone!
- Charlie Isaacs
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Happy holidays!
- Nir Ben Yona
Cheers from the UK! Have a good one! ;)
- kosso
Double Cheers! Have Fun! Happy Holidays!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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- lucyjohnson91
Streaming to a nightlight is beyond wasteful. Having computers in the bedrooms of kids is not a good idea. You need to read up on your child policies.
- marstein
weird echo
- Alex Williams
Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PDT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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I'm waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
I posted this to get ready for today's show: https://plus.google.com/u... about my first CES prediction.
- Robert Scoble
hi there
- Kevin Marks
Cool if Jobsworth makes a guest appearance, even a cameo.
- cliveb
Hey guys! Tina, it's your turn now. ACTION.
- Nir Ben Yona
JP is not going to make it I'm afraid, clive.
- Kevin Marks
You're not shitting.
- Francine Hardaway
I think Tech Crunch is destroyed. I can tell it has completely changed. Softer, less interesting
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Kevin:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Hi guys!
- Daniel W. Crompton
I just got a WebOS Tablet, and I gave my KindleFire to my grandson
- Francine Hardaway
TechCrunch has dissolved fast.
- cliveb
Arrington's post: http://uncrunched.com/2011...
- Robert Scoble
Geekwire.com's taken over TC crown in Seattle
- cliveb
It depends on how you manage the acquisitions
- Francine Hardaway
Sometimes acquisitions are the fastest way to destroy value (no idea why)
- cliveb
The problem is that Huffington Post was acquired for $300 million at same time that TC was bought for about $30 million. I could see this collision coming from 100 miles away.
- Robert Scoble
Moe: I would have buried Gowalla too. In fact, I did.
- Robert Scoble
are you guys doing the gang twice a week now every week?
- Laura Norvig
Is it really the expense that's the issue? Windows 8 isn't released yet, is it?
- Brian Hendrickson
that would be amazing, Laura; or at least do one Gillmor Gang and one News Gang
- franzstehrn
Once a week, sorry. But sometimes we delay a show until Monday.
- Robert Scoble
I'd buy a Windows 8 tablet -- it's exciting that their app-building APIs are Web based. It'll be fun to make apps compared to Java.
- Brian Hendrickson
ah, I see, thanks Robert.
- Laura Norvig
Have to say Azure has mojo since ScottGu took over: Nodejs Hadoop
- cliveb
Isn't Microsoft developing for iOS now?
- Alex de Soto
cliveb yeah Node on Metro would be fun
- Brian Hendrickson
I'd rather have a WebOS tablet after the iPad. Awesome platform.
- Nir Ben Yona
Laura... maybe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
OneNote, SkyDrive, Kinectimals for iOS... all rehearsals for a Microsoft tablet?
- Alex de Soto
they don't do anything
- Tina Chase Gillmor
up and to the stage right
- Kevin Marks
Kevin's right about MS law suites. Even mid-level employees changing jobs are nailed to strict, enforced non-competes.
- cliveb
the enterprise based tablet is the iPad at the moment
- Kevin Marks
@brian - webOS had(has) nodejs. sweet.
- cliveb
wow I connect in late and I instantly get Scoble monitor envy
- Charlie Isaacs
cliveb i forgot about that -- no wonder devs are so enamored with it. I did see a cool "responsive" app for different screen sizes - built with a webos framework
- Brian Hendrickson
Governments still use MS Office.
- Nir Ben Yona
Remember when Arrington wanted to develop a tablet?
- Francine Hardaway
Everyone in health care is going to the iPad, whether there's an "enterprise" branded version or not
- Francine Hardaway
I think there is actually a 2010
- Laura Norvig
is microsoft still in business ??
- studentforce
There's still a great demand for Excel and such.
- Nir Ben Yona
crocodile tears for msft
- Kevin Marks
I am running CP/M and HDOS on my Zenith Heathkit Z89.
- Charlie Isaacs
kevin is crying over the death of office
- Tina Chase Gillmor
CTOs like the Microsoft cloud. :(
- Alex de Soto
people don't like change, obviously
- Laura Norvig
ok. not true. some of its features are pretty good. spreadsheets, ppt
- studentforce
FriendFeed never really did get @mentions working -- did it. G+ and FB and TW have it -- it's expected
- Brian Hendrickson
Word is widely used. Most people I work with in the enterprise hate Google docs
- Francine Hardaway
My wife still thinks she is running Wordstar (That's what she calls MSWord)
- Charlie Isaacs
Office / Windows 8 stakes are really high, but metro delivers tablet exp. How can MS go wrong.
- cliveb
being able to work offline is still important for some people/situations
- Laura Norvig
its a commodity
- studentforce
I write in MSWord (a lot of time on airplanes w/out wifi) and then publish to blog or pdf. I usually code in Eclipse or xCode console
- Charlie Isaacs
I would be up the creek currently at home without having a full OS/Environment. So yeah, it's still very important.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
offline I use TextWrangler or SubEthaEdit
- Kevin Marks
Kevin does your editor also work as a signaling device?
- Brian Hendrickson
Facts, Amazon already has a patent license from Microsoft...More facts...(as of july 2011: Office 2010 continues to be the fastest-selling version of Microsoft Office in history with over 100 million licenses sold since its release a year ago.
- Stephen M
You guys are dreaming. You should live in my world. Small businesses use Word, email, and .ppt. They don't want to change.
- Francine Hardaway
Sharepoint is like Yammer
- Brian Hendrickson
Really depends on teh kind of Enterprise. Some businesses are still used to needing to format documents nicely and are used to doing that in word.
- Laura Norvig
Sharepoint is your grandmother's attic -- where you go to store stuff you don't ever want to see again -- Benioff
- Charlie Isaacs
Francine nailed it.
- cliveb
Francine: yes.
- Robert Scoble
No -- Excel is
- Brian Hendrickson
Mostly documents in small business. NO, Steve.
- Francine Hardaway
Way to bring it back to reality, Francine! Although agile small businesses with younger staff tend to use cloud apps more. some work entirely with google apps.
- Laura Norvig
QuickBooks?
- Kevin Marks
they use email to send documents
- Jerome Hughes
Small businesses aren't where you think they are
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, that's right! They attach word documents to email:-)
- Francine Hardaway
...and there's MS Access, Project and Visio. They are very persistent in certain circles.
- Alex de Soto
Microsoft Has A Dozen Billion Dollar Businesses
- Stephen M
I'd like to know who (profession) uses what at different age: 50+ uses ? 15-20 yrs uses ? 20 - 25 yrs uses ? 25 - 40 yrs? 40 - 50 yrs?
- studentforce
Even though at Alcatel-Lucent we have moved to a Jive Platform people still use the MSOffice tools and store interesting docs and ppts in Jive Enterprise
- Charlie Isaacs
OFFICE is stable
- Francine Hardaway
we are a mid-size nonprofit using outlook, sharepoint, ms-office. we all hate sharepoint and smaller teams use Basecamp instead.
- Laura Norvig
Unless you are in tech
- Francine Hardaway
how many happy Sharepoint users are there? People are basically "living with it"
- Charlie Isaacs
if you're still preparing documents for print a lot, sure, you end up in office
- Kevin Marks
Charlie: right.
- Robert Scoble
Microsoft Sold 5 Million Seats Of Office 365 In Less Than Three Months and 90% of those are small businesses
- Stephen M
do you like it, or do you just live with it?
- Kevin Marks
Charlie, it's scary how awful it is, really. Only use is version control/checkout.
- Laura Norvig
Small biz likes keeping a firm grip. WinOffice over WebSocial tools
- cliveb
it doesn't matter that Sharepoint is lame -- it's cheap and IT can install it behind the firewall, that makes it important.
- Brian Hendrickson
if goog docs was more robust people would jump fast. No loyalty to MS like there used to be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: and Box.net has something like 8 million ustomers and is doubling every 11 months.
- Robert Scoble
site licensing makes it an all or nothing decision, need to mount a major project to save anything
- Jerome Hughes
sharepoint is really bad when people try to use it for knowledge management...trying to store docs that can solve customer issues in there
- Charlie Isaacs
E-mail will persist as long as there are lawyers. Where else will people place those lengthy legal disclaimers?
- Alex de Soto
When does the 2010 Web arrive Rob :D
- David Lloyd
Tina, yep. I've tried to switch to google docs but there are bugs, load issues, and lack of complexity in formatting tools.
- Laura Norvig
I used to know how to format thinsg in word
- Kevin Marks
these days I write HTML or code instead
- Kevin Marks
Google apps just suck, even LAPD is dumping Google apps gmail
- Stephen M
Tina: That's true, but maybe from the pricing point. Most people would probably use Office if it wasn't so pricey.
- Nir Ben Yona
eg I made http://xmaslabels.com to avoid having to deal with bloody Word tables and mail merge
- Kevin Marks
There's QuickOffice Pro for the iPad. That will keep Office in use for a while.
- Alex de Soto
sometimes when my kids write papers they cant do it on Google docs BUT teachers dont iinsist on Word any more because Google is free
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sharepoint is not cheap next to open source content management
- Jerome Hughes
Prezi is great for presentations.
- Nir Ben Yona
I use Google Docs because I travel so much. When I work with an enterprise client, they want me to send a Word doc because they want to download the doc to read when THEY are traveling and offline. And when I work with small businesses and startups, they don't have time to learn any new software so they use Office for Mac:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft DID NOT announce Office the ipad.. it was a rumor..why are you reporting that as fact
- Stephen M
iWork apps
- Jerome Hughes
Prezi is pretty cool, agree Nir
- Charlie Isaacs
I like Prezi
- Kevin Marks
i love Prezi.
- Robert Scoble
it's a bit weird on iPad, but works OK on web
- Kevin Marks
MS Incentives! IT admin shops serving smb/sme make careers and money upgrading servicing office. Make nothing with Goog docs
- cliveb
Outlook Express is part of Office
- Francine Hardaway
So despite all this, why was latest version of Office biggest selling version of all time
- David Lloyd
Huge sales
- David Lloyd
Beginners using Prezi tend to make the audience motion sick
- Francine Hardaway
true Clive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
inertia, David.
- Kevin Marks
Francine there is no Outlook Express
- Stephen M
I need to go in a couple of minutes
- Kevin Marks
So "dying" products have inertia?
- David Lloyd
+Steven M oops!
- Francine Hardaway
OneNote for the iPad arrived on December 13, did someone already say that?
- Charlie Isaacs
I said it was on iPad, but I haven't tried it
- Kevin Marks
ok Kevin. I just let Steve know
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wonder if they will discuss Winer's post about Apps
- David Lloyd
David: Momentum is hard to change.
- Robert Scoble
iPad isn't the word processing tool.
- Francine Hardaway
THat's YOU
- Francine Hardaway
one day...real soon...your iPad will be your office computer AND your desktop phone
- Charlie Isaacs
the liberating effect of constraints
- Jerome Hughes
how can you "work" with an ipad? the app model is like Dos..one thing at a time..
- Stephen M
iAWriter is a beautiful iPad app for writers.
- Alex de Soto
Everyone I know is still trying to find a good word processing tool for the iPad.
- Francine Hardaway
We visit websites on our computers and use APPS on our ipads..
- David Lloyd
Exactly. The entire government offices in Israel run Microsoft Office.
- Nir Ben Yona
Who cares about new apps for Windows... just go to a website
- Stephen M
I've tried iAWriter and Blogsy, and Pages. I end up drafting in Evernote and then uploading to WP
- Francine Hardaway
How about Skype?
- Brian Costello
starting with ways to convert to and from office documents
- Jerome Hughes
Yup. I use Evernote for text processing most.
- Francine Hardaway
If I am online I write in WP, but that's dangerous on the iPad
- Francine Hardaway
Nir Ben Yona, its a good thing... LA tried going to Google Apps, but they have had to drop it it sucked so bad
- Stephen M
good one Kevin
- Charlie Isaacs
does prezi let you author on iPd now?
- Kevin Marks
OK, I'm gone
- Kevin Marks
Cld be in Airplanes disconnected Cloud apps doc experience suks. (html5 local storage ~)
- cliveb
Francine -- can't you use an iPad app that hooks to your WP?
- Brian Hendrickson
...but not forgotten
- Tina Chase Gillmor
like MarsEdit?
- Brian Hendrickson
By the way, I loaded a new app today for windows... try MetroTwit..its beautiful, and awesome too
- Stephen M
Brian yes. But I write a lot on airplanes without wifi and in conferences with crummy wifi, and I need to draft offline more than you think
- Francine Hardaway
Not the cheap wine, right?
- Charlie Isaacs
@Stephen: Learning the hard way ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
Francine - a well-designed MarsEdit-a-like would handle offline mode -- not sure if that exists tho
- Brian Hendrickson
This show sounds like a bunch of Microsoft competitors complaining about them...
- Stephen M
Great video by me about Rypple: http://youtu.be/fcDHdATSjaQ
- Robert Scoble
anyone tried Microsoft Lync?
- Stephen M
I want to work with the Wookey! (hint nudge wink)
- cliveb
I am wondering about how this will affect the SAP/Salesforce relationship...
- Charlie Isaacs
My company is a huge Microsoft partner, gives me more reason to bash on them to make them better Stephen M
- Charlie Isaacs
I think eventually people will run their own cloud software the way they adopted running their own PCs in the '80s. it's the mainframe era of the cloud.
- Brian Hendrickson
you can get a Windows Phone for 99 cents :)
- Stephen M
I went to the real-time crunch-up, stood at a Mic and asked Jack Dorsey why Twitter wasn't decentralized like e-mail. he said the users didn't care if it was decentralized.
- Brian Hendrickson
Nodejs yes!
- cliveb
node + xmpp!
- Brian Hendrickson
Hey Stephen if we wanted Microsoft ads we would go here: "The worst Microsoft ads of all time" http://www.guardian.co.uk/technol...
- Charlie Isaacs
federated.
- Francine Hardaway
the problem with OStatus is it's like Atom -- a splinter
- Brian Hendrickson
Moe why denegrate RealTime by calling it CNN.. no one watches CNN
- Stephen M
there's been a lot of good real-time tech invented the past couple years -- Salmon, Pubsubhubbub
- Brian Hendrickson
that stuff can work with RSS too --
- Brian Hendrickson
That's true.
- Francine Hardaway
@Robert: Soooooo True! You nailed it.
- Nir Ben Yona
+1 Robert
- Charlie Isaacs
And I love the idea that developers wanted to build Kinect apps and the mobile platform takes no advantage of that
- Francine Hardaway
but he totally backtracked on it.
- Laura Norvig
Yes, I thought it was awesome, but the media nearly drove him under
- Francine Hardaway
MS has enough resources where they can retain their old style legacy thinking and create a new division with "new style thinking" and just let the old appendage wither and go away on its own
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is doing so bad with developers they can't sell their developer tools...oh wait, its a billion dollar business thats up 11% year over year
- Stephen M
Reed may be inline to succeed Ballmer (but up in the air now)
- cliveb
Stephen: Box.net doubled in the same year. WHich business would you rather have?
- Robert Scoble
it's not like MS is going to crash and burn, but if they don't move forward, what are they?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why do you really need email if you have threaded conversation tools?
- Laura Norvig
Microsoft had a record sales/revenue year..why replace him
- Stephen M
Have a wonderful holiday everybody
- Francine Hardaway
Regardless $$ Ballmer still needs a cloudy successor.
- cliveb
good pt Tina, also, what is their dev growth rate vs. Apple and Adroid? I paid my $99 for xcode dev without hesitation, but I don't buy ms dev licenses any more, only at my company
- Charlie Isaacs
Today you should thank me, as well for the annoying small business insights
- Francine Hardaway
Good show thanks -- where do I pay my $5?
- Brian Hendrickson
Why pay to dev for a phone?
- Stephen M
Great show #cheers
- Nir Ben Yona
Thank you, Francine. :-)
- Debi Jones
+1 for Robert. Hi Debi!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
you guys are all great, thanks for the exchange! :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Lovely time. If there's no show next week...have a great holiday!
- Alex de Soto
Happy Holidays everyone!
- Debi Jones
By the way, why isn't there a chat room? its on ustream??
- Stephen M
Good to see SFDC pick up coach Wookey.
- cliveb
call LEO!!
- Brian Hendrickson
They won't notice you
- Francine Hardaway
Leo as in Twit?
- Stephen M
thanks francine for the annoying small business insights
- Steve Gillmor
yeah gillmorgang was hosted there in 2008 i think
- Brian Hendrickson
ahhh.... no
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thanks everyone.
- Robert Scoble
I think Microsoft avoiding CES is a mistake, and seems to be based on the cost to have a keynote speaker. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
I brought the first live stream to the NFL Draft in 2007. NFL copied it in 2008. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Problem with SOPA is it gives power to fraudulent take down claims, even with the penalties. This is already a REAL PROBLEM on YouTube #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
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good morning friendly people.
- Paul E. Ester
Has anyone told Tina what a great job she does? Thank you Tina!
- Paul E. Ester
oh my gosh, how nice! Thank you for being here Paul.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Good morning! Absolutely correct Paul!
- Robert Scoble
Also a big Tina fan ==>
- Laura Norvig
wow, is this my birthday? I'll have to check facebook!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's gonna be a short one today. At least for me. I gotta leave in 15 minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Tina is a star, yes
- Kevin Marks
My web-based twitter hasn't changed yet, as far as I can tell.
- Laura Norvig
the Path thing is a demographic thing. Rich, smart, techies use Apple products. That's all.
- Laura Norvig
From (very) recent experience, developing for the fragmented Android ecosystem is a pain in the ass, compared to iOS. That's why iOS seem to come first for devs.
- kosso
They've changed it so much, we, the people who made Twitter what it is today, will leave.
- kosso
they know we won't leave, we put up with the site being down half the time for years
- Kevin Marks
Testing is a pain the ass. SAP just announced delayed release of a community platform to two million users because of problems that showed up during late testing.
- Michael Krigsman
Twitter is now a product being led by too much money, managed by people searching for a business model, hiring too many people without a clue. IMHO
- kosso
not testing is even more of a pain in the ass
- Kevin Marks
Robert, life is about putting up with third parties we don;t like :-)
- Michael Krigsman
scoble has 4000 apps on his phone
- Kevin Marks
how/why is Path any better/different than what is already out there?
- Laura Norvig
just joined ... were you talking about the Kindle? the NOOK is where the action will be ..... Barnes & Noble owns or manages 57% of College Bookstores ..... think eTextbooks
- studentforce
the first iPhone didn't have apps...
- Kevin Marks
It's just a joke. But also a mathematical truism. http://norvig.com/norvigs...
- Laura Norvig
Te and Chai are the Mandarin and Cantonese ways of pronouncing the chinese character for Tea
- Kevin Marks
Twitter App's least common redesign buried retweets and @mentions http://daringfireball.net/2011...
- cliveb
hubspot is marketing WITH customers rather than at customers ... with metrics
- studentforce
ERP is dead is where you were going. Zuora ?????
- studentforce
there we go. in the past 5 minutes there were at least three references to SCHOOL and GRADES and textbooks !!!!!!
- studentforce
steve is pushing the rewind button of his mind
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I totally agree with that. gives the salesperson confidence that the time spent is worthwhile
- studentforce
nope. eloqua solved that problem. you are talking about retail .... has not trickled down yet.
- studentforce
i think Kevin was crying.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I had something in my eye
- Kevin Marks
kevin is using the dust in his yard to cover up the sobbing ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
steve's thunking about jillian tett's: men, woman - and machines (self curating rogue chatter bots)
- cliveb
social is the ability to 'work a room' digitally ?????
- studentforce
dead to me
- Kevin Marks
OR human beings are incredibly simply and somewhat stupid
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's hard to say what is dead or not dead, but easier to say what we want: clearly defined circles and noise controls so important signals always get to us when we need them.
- Laura Norvig
reportive ?
- studentforce
rapportive
- Kevin Marks
what I also want: less platforms.
- Laura Norvig
we demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty, laura
- Kevin Marks
;-)
- Laura Norvig
thanks Kevin !!
- studentforce
to what degree does the ability to tweet begin to influence the events being tweeted about - did that make sense ??
- studentforce
smarter feedback loops
- Laura Norvig
you still need a baseline of connections to get your foot in the door
- Laura Norvig
ne1 doing a good job injecting social into ERP... (is there life on Mars)
- cliveb
"Mostly Harmless"
- kosso
how about that article
- Kevin Marks
home phones are dead
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I stopped answering my landline ages ago. 100% screened.
- Laura Norvig
You guys in the USA having to pay for incoming calls has to be the most ludicrous thing ever. I couldn't believe. It's kind of understandable for international roamers. but. still. Nuts.
- kosso
that's why the bill wont pass. gov doesnt want to be responsible for phone bills
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What OSS license will WebOS be done with? This question has yet to be answered.
- kosso
WebOS all depends on HP's open source governance, and their record is hardly pristine so far.
- Michael Mahemoff
yes, I'm assuming a sensible license there, not a Javaesque situation
- Kevin Marks
If they're smart, they'll go with a standard (permissive) license, not a weird legalese one-off license which doesn't fit into corporate policies.
- Michael Mahemoff
However, Amazon (and Facebook?) forking Android may have freaked them out against any possibility of a permissive license.
- Michael Mahemoff
Kevin: My results...We last saw Scoble 5969km away from you, 3 days ago.
- Alex de Soto
point is it's a web page that asks your location
- Kevin Marks
Chrome 16 introduced optional permissions (for apps/extensions) http://code.google.com/chrome... to stop everything having to be accepted upfront.
- Michael Mahemoff
curation tools
- studentforce
Second Economy (anchored off SF) http://blogs.parc.com/blog...
- cliveb
Live Gang - yay!
- cliveb
Evernote’s Skitch Sees 3 Million Downloads On Android http://techcrunch.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
Livegang sounds fun
- Paul E. Ester
Live Gang would be great!
- Alex de Soto
my son's birthday yesterday
- Kevin Marks
good show .... thanks!
- studentforce
happy birthday Kevin's son yesterday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sorry, but December babies are ill-timed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have two!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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well, I am recording in the town square in Redwood City. All the indoor places were noisier...
- Kevin Marks
ok Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm at home. This will start shortly.
- Robert Scoble
*tapping foot*
- Laura Norvig
hello!
- Maciej Głuszek
Hi Laura and Maciej: we're trying to get started.
- Robert Scoble
Hey everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
I am here and you can start now.
- imabonehead
hi there
- Kevin Marks
Welcome everyone.
- Robert Scoble
Greetings, y'all.
- Phil Gomes
Hi everyone. glad you're all here.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what companies already have it?
- Laura Norvig
or if you read the Wall Street Journal
- Kevin Marks
Let's get some more Rackspace swag on the wall, Robert ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
scoble has blown his dunbar stack years ago
- Kevin Marks
Robert - good to see you. Safe travels to Paris. Send the family video mail while you're there via http://iphone.eyejot.com
- David Geller
Someone who looks like Scoble was wearing a tuxedo last night at the Rackspace party.
- Charlie Isaacs
I can never find where to choose "show me less" about a person.
- Laura Norvig
The Coca Cola page is owned by Pepsi haha jk
- Charlie Isaacs
ohhh, under Subscribed. Ugh. weird terminology.
- Laura Norvig
Hmm... Speaking of "filtering out..."
- Phil Gomes
guys, behave! ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
Interesting comments, brands on FaceBook is what you pay for the "Free" Service
- Daniel W. Crompton
Robert i'm looking at the top right corner and it's a Subaru ad -- he's not *totally* wrong
- Brian Hendrickson
Court date? Look at the background...
- Phil Gomes
Phil: Kevin Marks is in Redwood City for the geek event I'm hosting in a couple of hours.
- Robert Scoble
I "Like" some brands, music bands etc. And I click "dont show me anything from..." and I don't see this in my feed ever
- Maciej Głuszek
not seeing any packet loss when listening to you....
- Kevin Marks
I miss SV geek events ,though geek events here in the Windy City are quite awesome.
- Phil Gomes
but they are starting to surface tools in the stream itself for graph cleanup. That is what needs to happen so it's "in that moment" you can do it a piece at a time.
- Jerry Schuman
So, Acquaintances is for people who don't have the balls to unfriend someone. Hmmm.
- Laura Norvig
Sorry Kevin. Your feed breaks down a bit. We'll keep trying...talk fast!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve Gillmor they changed it from 50 to 150
- Brian Hendrickson
Sites need to have "Like", "Dislike" and "Damn With Faint Praise" buttons.
- Phil Gomes
This should be called "The Random Show" ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
hey man! you're violating your friends privacy :)
- john
definitely. If I want to use Facebook for my org, share to a specific page I manage, switch roles, etc., I can't do some of that fine-grained admin stuff well on mobile.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, very true
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bet you Balmer uses an iPad2 !!
- studentforce
studentforce: I seriously doubt that.
- Robert Scoble
US snail mail just arrived. That was loud!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I tend to agree with Robert on Facebook. I like it more now than ever.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sounds like Perssonas. ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
GO 9ers! :)
- Charlie Isaacs
that is so annoying, though. I hate them trying to figure out what I want to see.
- Laura Norvig
it would be interesting to provide a Radian6-like keyword/filter mechanism that consolidates your personal "rivers of data"
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie, that's why I use lists. The ones *I* created, not the ones Facebook tried to foist on me.
- Laura Norvig
But you should be able to filter within the lists to "escalate" the important subjects/topics (to you) of that minute/hour
- Charlie Isaacs
Ah, true. Show me what my nptech friends post if it's about tech, but not about their babies. But you do kind of lose the personal touch of social networks that way.
- Laura Norvig
Facebook is doing something interesting with the way they now group together who and how many people have shared a specific link.
- Laura Norvig
agree (about the personal touch) Laura
- Charlie Isaacs
I have some technology that I'd love to sell to Betaworks that does exactly what he wants.
- Jerry Schuman
Laura: exactly right. Facebook's lists are better than Google+'s.
- Robert Scoble
Herman Cain says "Ok, there was that first woman, and then Ginger, and um, who was that third woman, um, "
- Charlie Isaacs
Rule of thumb: If you hear it from Laura N, it's generally right. :-) She set me straight twice recently.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, wait, whut?
- Laura Norvig
I hope that Scoble was watching my "Honey Badger Customer Service" video :)
- Charlie Isaacs
how 'bout the amount of money our senators and reps earn from insider trading ????
- studentforce
Laura: once on suicide statistics, once on whether Kevin Fox should visit FF more often. You were right both times.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble, yes and no. I think they stumbled by trying to foist lists on the 99% who don't use them. It seems awkward. I now have two Family lists. One I created myself and one Facebook created for me. It said I could merge them but that didn't work.
- Laura Norvig
(Insufficient bandwidth on this train to watch the video feed. Trying to infer conversation from the comments.)
- Bruce Lewis
I was watching this street skiing video. http://www.kmcmag.com/fresh-c... Pretty epic.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin Fox can check out but he can never leave.
- Laura Norvig
I am very jealous of John Borthwick's hair
- Charlie Isaacs
Chat not happening and I can't see the video. I guess I'll go back to playing with the Instagram API. Later!
- Bruce Lewis
They're talking about the Carrier IQ debacle
- Charlie Isaacs
still can't TRUST FB when it comes to privacy and choices. That's an issue
- studentforce
studentforce: that's bullshit. Don't put anything on a computer that you want to be private.
- Robert Scoble
Even on Path I don't see anything there that wouldn't be shared anywhere else.
- Robert Scoble
And Facebook gives you more privacy choices than anyone else.
- Robert Scoble
Personally I went the other way, I make everything on these things as "public as possible."
- Robert Scoble
http://facebook.com/roberts... lets you stalk me.
- Robert Scoble
3 minutes of battery left...
- Kevin Marks
Beatles app: http://whattheythink.com/news...
- John Taschek
Studentforce: and apps like Socioclean even let you see exactly what Facebook is exposing about you and you can delete everything you don't want other people to see about you.
- Robert Scoble
What *doesn't* let you stalk Robert Scoble? :-)
- Bruce Lewis
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I'm celebrating my fifth year on Twitter today!
- Robert Scoble
Good Morning all
- Paul E. Ester
Robert: Looks like you're celebrating Movember too! http://us.movember.com/
- Alex de Soto
Congrats Robert
- Paul E. Ester
Alex: yup! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Kevin Marks is always the smartest guy on GG
- Paul E. Ester
Paul: I agree with that!
- Robert Scoble
msft and aapl supporting this nonsense
- Paul E. Ester
Of course, MSFT and APPL are media businesses. Microsoft with Xbox. Apple with Disney and all the content it delivers on the iOS platform.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin almost always has the coolest British accent on GG, Paul
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina agree :)
- Paul E. Ester
fitbit and whitings ftw
- Paul E. Ester
hair grows downward and inward when you get older, grows out of your ears and other places
- Charlie Isaacs
kevin is getting blurry onme
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kindle Fire Mini-Review: Fits nicely on the nightstand. Video and music playback is very good as is implementation of the cloud. Browser OK but Flash slows it down. Reading OK (backlight helps at night) but not as good as with e-ink. Size is OK but feels heavier than the iPad because of bulk. Will not replace my iPad.
- Alex de Soto
will physical libraries die now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Libraries will become places we MAKE things: http://www.smartplanet.com/blog...
- Robert Scoble
can someone PLEASE get me some more coffee?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
ohh - Robert mentioned libraries!
- WoH: Minding her Botts
Tina: I was just thinking the same thing.
- Robert Scoble
Fire does have magazines
- Dale Lature
Gah, why is this so early now? I missed it ... wah.
- Laura Norvig
Laura: it's recorded too.
- Robert Scoble
who is the mainstream now, asks Steve. Interesting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ah, I know, tx, Robert. I just love bantering with y'all.
- Laura Norvig
Laura - we could do a show last Friday
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Gang needs a Google + page we can put in our circles so we can get notifications about when the shows are
- Dale Lature
Laura: and we love bantering with you.
- Robert Scoble
Dale: good point. It'll take Steve another few months to get Google+. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tina, are you messing with me because I haven't had enough coffee yet either?
- Laura Norvig
Steve is drinking out of his DAD mug today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe: news bites taken from Twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
tahir live http://rt.com/on-air...
- Paul E. Ester
that's because people don't read anymore ...
- Laura Norvig
Idiocracy
- Laura Norvig
hotter than pictures are live streams
- Paul E. Ester
since G plus doesn't bring stuff in, is not an aggregator, you're only getting native conversations. We need the uber real-time search combining Facebook, Twitter, G Plus, etc.
- Laura Norvig
I read Google+ for the pictures oops I mean the articles
- Charlie Isaacs
I want to hear more about the Fire
- Dale Lature
Laura: bing! Dale: what is there to talk about? It's a great device because of the price and the Amazon ecosystem.
- Robert Scoble
How it is to use, quality, etc. Ya know, review type stuff
- Dale Lature
IOW, why is it good enough to be the only other tablet next to iPad?
- Dale Lature
Dale: hasn't that been talked to death by the pros? Most of which have been pretty negative, mostly because people are comparing to iPad or other Android tablets. Why is it good enough to be the only tablet next to iPad? Amazon. Amazon. Amazon. $200. $200. $200.
- Robert Scoble
@ Dale cheap price / amazon content
- Paul E. Ester
and you guys are more positive, and are people I trust more than the Mainstream emdia
- Dale Lature
Amazon is why I was initially enthused...just the world they offer...but what's left is the usability....I think I'm getting one based on what I've heard which is basically "Not bad perfomance"
- Dale Lature
Robert, do you have one and have you written about it or talked about it elsewhere?
- Dale Lature
Dale: I've had my hands on it. I'm not interested in it. For my uses the iPad is totally superior. But I will buy them for other people, due solely to the low price.
- Robert Scoble
I have a variety of other Android tablets too. I never use them. They just don't measure up to iPad.
- Robert Scoble
Curious as to how everyone likes/doesn't like a "monday" show? Beginning of the week...do you like that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Push notification == email inbox?
- Todd Hoff
I am more likely to make the monday live than friday. Always appreciate the show and your work
- Paul E. Ester
Monday is good for me this week because we have a "forced" week off at my company :)
- Charlie Isaacs
tweets becoming literature... http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-09...
- Jerome Hughes
Most awesome is to get it to the cloud fast so I can watch it on appleTV. The NoAgenda Podcast gets posted within a couple of hours and I love the reliability of knowing it will be available if I miss it live
- Paul E. Ester
Happy thanksgiving all
- Paul E. Ester
Happy Thanksgiving week!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gillmor Gang Live (TCTV) - http://techcrunch.com/2011...
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The Gillmor Gang is recording live today at a special day and time. Monday 9am Pacific Time. Guests: Robert Scoble, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks, and John Taschek.
- Steve Gillmor
have I got time to grab a cup of tea?
- Kevin Marks
tea Acquired
- Kevin Marks
not seeing you all
- Kevin Marks
Good morning!
- Robert Scoble
Hi Robert and everybody!
- Bruce Lewis
How are Amazon's video offerings better than iTunes?
- Bruce Lewis
iPad 1 goes for ~$300 on craigslist these days.
- Bruce Lewis
(I look at Boston craigslist -- SF Bay might be different).
- Bruce Lewis
I'm amazed that we even talk about video/music creation on an iPad today -- these things were originally just large smartphones that didn't make phone calls.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: true!
- Robert Scoble
Just stunned that I found you guys on!
- Francine Hardaway
Looks like http://friendfeed.com/realtim... is what shows on the building43 sidebar...moving over there.
- Bruce Lewis
they have tools revenue
- Kevin Marks
How Apple screwed up web video: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006...
- Kevin Marks
un-crappying Flash: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2006...
- Kevin Marks
5 year old blogposts
- Kevin Marks
Yup.
- Robert Scoble
I would pay $5 *not* to use iTunes.
- Richard Carter, FCD
so exciting - you can use iMatch with your iTouch now
- Ankush Narula
FLAC is fantastic.
- Richard Carter, FCD
mp3 is killing quality hi-fi.
- Richard Carter, FCD
Note: Folks watching the video on bldg43 don't see this post. They see http://friendfeed.com/realtim... I've unliked this post and liked the other.
- Bruce Lewis
Keep calling it that... http://www.imatch.com/
- Ankush Narula
great trending topic
- Ankush Narula
Robert: they said team page management is coming very soon
- Ankush Narula
Couldn't disagree more - Google's pushing out features measured and incrementally - AND don't forget that they have a massive installed base of Google Apps users - they're poised to become a major force in B2B social networking
- Ankush Narula
Maciej: http://blog.pinboard.in/2011...
- Kevin Marks
my response: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
Stross on the evil of Klout http://www.antipope.org/charlie...
- Kevin Marks
more Klout pushback: http://www.nytimes.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
proposed SXSW panel against Klout-like nonsense; http://j.mp/influenca
- Kevin Marks
Robert would love this site: http://gimmeshiny.com/
- Kevin Marks
Cool, Kevin. Ian Gilman (my cousin) is behind gimmeshiny.
- Bruce Lewis
Google + FTW!
- Jolly Rogger Z
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hiya
- Kevin Marks
I have a place to sit and bandwidth at the w3c TPAC meeting; but I ned to nip to the bathroom for a couple of mins.
- Kevin Marks
back
- Kevin Marks
We will start shortly
- Robert Scoble
passing people like my microphone and comment on it... o_O
- Kevin Marks
you can't short GroupOn until it's been trading a while too
- Kevin Marks
maybe I should go outside by the pool now this lobby is full of people from the chatty people conference
- Kevin Marks
Hey guys
- Christian Burns
Hi Christian.
- Robert Scoble
what is klout's purpose ... who really cares ?
- studentforce
I know I have Klout when John Taschek returns my call
- studentforce
Tim Berners-Lee has 51 klout. mm-hm.
- Kevin Marks
how do they measure it ?? Quantity; quality ??
- studentforce
the problem with klout is that there really aren't many alternatives.
- Danny Starr
lol if you are basing anything like pay or hiring on klout, you're nuts and desire what you got when they changed it
- Danny Starr
ripples
- Christian Burns
an attempt at klout is worthless without incorporating personas.
- Jerry Schuman
Justin Bieber has a Klout score of 100.
- Alex de Soto
ripples - that sounds interesting
- studentforce
klout is fun for people that like their ego boosted :)
- Christian Burns
there is no specificity for klout scores...
- Jerry Schuman
define high score
- Christian Burns
Beyonce used to be the big case against Klout because she had a huge klout score and a bunch of followers but never tweeted once
- Danny Starr
actually Hanson was 2000
- Jerry Schuman
how does one access 'ripples'
- studentforce
ripples are only available on Public posts in Plus... access them from the down arrow on the right of each post
- Jerry Schuman
the fact that Neilsen has never been a player in online analytics speaks volumes
- Jerry Schuman
I thought they owned one of the web tracking co's
- Kevin Marks
played is the verb
- Kevin Marks
script kiddies
- Jerry Schuman
sensor networks are the future...
- Jerry Schuman
Jawbone's new UP bracelet...
- Jerry Schuman
there's an XKCD fro that: http://xkcd.com/300/
- Kevin Marks
tied to a mobility platform
- Jerry Schuman
Aggregation 2.0 is going to be the next big disruption
- Jerry Schuman
Hanson - MMMMMM Bop - 1997 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... / Jerry
- John Taschek
I'm going to the "real" movies tonight. Tower Heist
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Netflix doesn't have 10% of the worlds movies, Obama needs to legalize piracy, then all the movies can just go up on YouTube or any other servers and you can get any movie for just paying $10/month through taxes
- Charbax
Amazon Prime type of yearly pricing should provide unlimited access to all ebooks, articles, text etc
- Charbax
Guess they started a bit earlier... time gets fuzzy. They came to birthday party for one of my daughters band mates which was around 2001. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jerry Schuman
Hanson still performs - they've actually matured as a band -- they are not bad.
- John Taschek
I heard they were actually very talented musicians
- Jerry Schuman
nice guys in person too...
- Jerry Schuman
Apple made it buggy
- Charbax
I never used Google Reader sharing features, now I will share lots of RSS stuff from Google Reader to Google+
- Charbax
expedient
- studentforce
Never touch Google reader since my Ipad with the Reeder app.... I've never consumed RSS more efficiently
- Jerry Schuman
and they have AWS which lowers their TCO for deploying those services and new offerings
- Jerry Schuman
Google Reader Trends are cool.
- Alex de Soto
the netflix price hike is because movie studios wanted more money. Why should netflix sell the subscription at a loss?
- Charbax
AWS is Amazon's equivalent to Apple's hoarding cash.
- Jerry Schuman
Have you seen the new BloombergTV app on iPad?
- Jerry Schuman
It's pitiful that Amtrak is just getting around to putting it on trains.
- Jerry Schuman
they have a nice iPad app for Hipmunk, Steve.
- Jerry Schuman
Arrived late, enjoi reading comments
- cliveb
Thanks! Jerry: yeah, the Bloomberg app is quite nice.
- Robert Scoble
was a real good show. Thanks Gang and thanks chat room guests. We all create a dynamic show togehter.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Hello!
- Maciej Głuszek
I am in Viadeo's San Francisco office today. I'm now standing by.
- Robert Scoble
hi Robert. real soon
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and I'm at home...
- Kevin Marks
Awesome, I'm busy judging apps anyway so every minute is cool. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Scoble is racked (excuse the pun) and loaded
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin is up
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Borthwick is in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Taschek is ready
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Let's rock and roll!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you should use this test card: http://www.thesystempredicts.com/wp-cont... or recreate it
- Kevin Marks
HD version: http://gonedigital.net/wp-cont...
- Kevin Marks
Land of cranky - me too!
- cliveb
Ignoring Scoble's photo Pron is best news of week.
- Aron Michalski
John should talk about Mog vs Spotify
- Michael Krigsman
Stanford oval had been decked out with candles for Steve Jobs memorial http://yfrog.com/g09slnj
- cliveb
The Gov gave the MSM an exclusive, 3 min,
- Aron Michalski
Nice. Scoble is Siri for Twitter.
- Michael Markman
Guess It's appropriate I have him blocked. No AI for me...
- Aron Michalski
no, Siri waits to be asked
- Kevin Marks
Noise control fro google plus: unfollow scoble
- Kevin Marks
+1 Kevin, -100 Scoble...
- Aron Michalski
Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Apple working on a TV: http://www.washingtonpost.com/busines...
- Robert Scoble
Geez I blew the recording in the beginning. oh who will hire me now?!?!?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
having trouble with Kevin's stability
- Tina Chase Gillmor
seeing a lot of packet loss
- Kevin Marks
Tina: If only Richard Nixon were still alive!
- Alex de Soto
I can go get my verizon mifi as an alternative, I think comcast is flaking on me
- Kevin Marks
let's see Kevin. If it happens again - switch
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Siri is not on 100m yet, only on the new 4S's
- Kevin Marks
Having commentary hold until the event happens would improve cable news.
- Aron Michalski
The inane conjecture punditry is such a negitive gesture.
- Aron Michalski
OK Kevin - switch to verizon
- Tina Chase Gillmor
in any medium.
- Aron Michalski
How about Abe Vigoda's voice?
- Aron Michalski
switched
- Kevin Marks
Harvey Fierstein?
- Aron Michalski
aron !!! ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple will learn gobs from the Siri queries it's not yet able to answer. That's invaluable data for enhancements.
- Michael Markman
So...they're pulling a Google?
- Rah-PM 2012
Imagine that... a feature becoming a data scraper.
- Aron Michalski
more than pulling a Google, they're intercepting queries that might otherwise go to Google
- Michael Markman
siri is a layer above Google, Bing, Wolfram, etc that apple controls... they can pass queries anywhere.
- Michael Markman
my friends with autistic children all love their ipads
- Kevin Marks
Kevin: they will love this app.
- Robert Scoble
It's one of the best things about having both an Apple and Android device is seeing what's being blocked or obvoscated by one side or the other.
- Aron Michalski
MetaTalk (coming soon).
- Robert Scoble
i hear typing
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and believe me, they are.
- Aron Michalski
Throwing in a superfluous Wow! for MetaTalk.
- Michael Markman
If that interface says nutsack, I'm muting.
- Aron Michalski
Taschek is hittin the bottle hard today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apps like Siri moving HCI from academia to main stream
- cliveb
welcome back Clive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thx, Tina
- cliveb
i haven't updated to OS% yet. Everyone else in my family has and is very excited about it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i love that google is "over" facebook. me too!
- Stephen
I haven't been offered iOS 5 updates on any device yet; presumably I need to do the big slow sync first
- Kevin Marks
ooooh, Obama tracking
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I wish one of these things would display HTML. People are making Images instead.
- Kevin Marks
i'm not interested in Google+ yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what will it take for you to like G+, tina?
- Stephen
G+ for Photography is +1
- Aron Michalski
Vic said they'd stop being dicks about names
- Kevin Marks
that's a start
- Stephen
I love Google+. I get a lot of engagement
- Francine Hardaway
Google+ API more directions than Steve Yeggies 5000 word Rant indicated http://bit.ly/paMfH2
- cliveb
I just haven't been pulled in. No benefit over Twitter for me right now. Feels like duplication right now to me
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Activity Streams is what you need
- Kevin Marks
i'm surprised my kid isn't using Google hangout
- Tina Chase Gillmor
mine use skype to hang out
- Kevin Marks
mine too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
while they are playing games or doing homework
- Kevin Marks
as a teen, i would've loved G hangout over AIM
- Stephen
you'd think so but they're not using it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
does skype support 10 people in one convo?
- Stephen
it does in audio, which is what they want; they have a shared world in the game or the document
- Kevin Marks
i'm doing this in audio only today...
- Kevin Marks
I have a Circle of Gillmor Gang:-) Or more accurately, one of Newsgang
- Francine Hardaway
back to the bottle, tina
- John Taschek
i have a GIllmor Gang circle too. Is yours interesting Francine?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin here's the video
- Steve Gillmor
is it Pepsi staight or diet coke on the rocks John?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Well, as interesting as Mickeleh, Karoli, Aroniski, Rob LaG., Scoble, Taschek, Steve, Kevin, Borthwick you, etc can be
- Francine Hardaway
can you use it in a sentence?
- Stephen
Francine... right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
odd. leave the video off
- Kevin Marks
Skype has an established population. Pulling people over to g+ hangouts is as much effort as pulling people in from FB.
- Michael Markman
smack!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
video doesn't add that much if it's just faces. All it does is cost your more attention.
- Michael Markman
"There needs no ghost come from the grave to tell us that," Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
hahaha
- Michael Markman
what about Tango?
- Stephen
microsoft has a track record of acquiring things that should breathe life into it... but they never do. The Microsoft culture smothers them all.
- Michael Markman
Microsoft Research can barely do it (Kinect being the only exception I can think of)
- Kevin Marks
yes Private messages Steve doesn't see!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i like it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Xbox in general is an exception to Microsoft's patterns.
- Michael Markman
Something keeps dinging in the studio. driving me freaking crazy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
steve ipad I think
- Tina Chase Gillmor
haha i've been hearing robert talk about the noise since G+ first came out. maybe he has a point?
- Stephen
I love this Gang. you rock guys
- Tina Chase Gillmor
you don't know what is noise; how could an algorithm?
- Kevin Marks
hey Occupy Wall Street is hanging in there
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yeggie posted an update credits Google for listening and Bezos for war stories http://bit.ly/nRGLkb
- cliveb
Robert filters me out
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sometimes noise is good. You may find out about something you were not tracking but may have great impact on your life.
- Alex de Soto
Anyone here following the development of hypothes.is ?
- Debi Jones
@alex relevant noise is fine by me
- Stephen
there was buzz about hypothes.is at IIW, haven't tried it yet
- Kevin Marks
agree w/ Alex. the perfect filter puts us into a cage lined with mirrors
- Michael Markman
how about ifttt.com ?
- Kevin Marks
A retardant? Sounds like a chemical they put in children's pajamas
- Francine Hardaway
Tina: I filter you out into my "better pay attention" folder.
- Robert Scoble
there are a few Steve projects in the pipeline
- Michael Markman
aw Robert, I'm touched
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Can't we just treat all this as a stream that floats by, and reconcile ourselves to missing some things?
- Francine Hardaway
you just dont want to get smacked
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think the Apple TV stuff is much farther out.
- Michael Markman
which could be done with a software upgrade for Apple TV 2
- Jerome Hughes
He was terrified that Apple would suffer the same post-founder fate as HP
- Michael Markman
sync sanc sunc?
- Francine Hardaway
i hear the meaning of life is chocolate
- Stephen
And it will, Michael
- Francine Hardaway
It is inevitable
- Francine Hardaway
but it may be postponable
- Michael Markman
Google+ readies new features... http://bit.ly/oFoAKm
- cliveb
Sure. They sold it. They're out
- Francine Hardaway
like traffic, when it was experimental, there was plenty of detail, then it got packaged and it's a summary at best
- Jerome Hughes
i think Robert just annouced it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
battery died on the mifi. not my day
- Kevin Marks
Siri is one of those things you say "wow" about but don't use much. Like Facetime
- Francine Hardaway
I would use Siri non-stop if I had it.
- Stephen
Robert says we're all on Facebook, but that's not so. I deleted my account there.
- Debi Jones
Not after it gave you a few snarky unhelpful answers
- Francine Hardaway
What's the IP on Siri like? Can Android implement a similar feature?
- Stephen
I love a bit of snark :)
- Stephen
Debi: people who aren't on Facebook are weird.
- Robert Scoble
Nice, Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
I suppose I"m weird, too, then.
- Stephen
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Yep, that may be true Robert. I'm kinda weird.
- Debi Jones
Everyone my age has a token profile without a photo on it or anything written on their wall. Their kids put them on, but they don't engage
- Francine Hardaway
Betcha those queries that lead to snarky answers today will lead to useful results in the future as Apple learns and itierates Siri.
- Michael Markman
Android has a similar feature - voice search has been there for ages, voice command is separate. they need to unify and tune it.
- Kevin Marks
Not if they all refer to StarTrek, Michael
- Francine Hardaway
Google Translate for android is in many ways more impressive than Siri
- Kevin Marks
people who are not on Google+ are completely normal.. ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Siri is playful; not something google is good at
- Kevin Marks
haha Siri + Jersey Shore will be great.
- Stephen
Got my weird badge flying high and proud, btw.
- Debi Jones
My husband had a dictaphone strapped to his belt at all times.
- Francine Hardaway
I bet I need to reboot my router
- Kevin Marks
Siri Alpha: the Dictaphone
- Francine Hardaway
Alan Kay used to say that the intelligent assistant should be programmed to act as a slightly daft, deaf butler, so you forgive it when it can't help.
- Michael Markman
+1 Taschek
- Francine Hardaway
^2
- Stephen
:/
- Stephen
thank you Gillmor Gang +all
- Stephen
thanks!
- Aron Michalski
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks all. Great gang
- Michael Markman
thanks to allllll
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Secret service agents secured the quad for Steve Jobs memorial service http://yfrog.com/h8wcfnlj (via @kamildada)
- cliveb
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hello
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hello?
- Kevin Marks
Starting up shortly.
- Robert Scoble
hot sunny day here in northern California
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin, you on Skype?
- Robert Scoble
Call in on NewsGang 3.
- Robert Scoble
kevin can you call in on NewsGang 3 please
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hi there!
- Maciej Głuszek
OK
- Kevin Marks
Hi Tina!
- Aron Michalski
Hi all #gillmorgang
- Peter Dawson
hello!
- Hilary Talbot
Hellooo
- Kevin Costain
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Happy birthday Steve
- Michael Krigsman
lost connection
- Kevin Marks
I can hear the music in my head
- Christian Burns
Just a minute. Technical problems.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh, technology :)
- Maciej Głuszek
Poor New Yorkers standing in line for iPhone 4S - the rain just started coming down quite hard
- Ankush Narula
be this test card, John: http://www.barney-wol.net/video...
- Kevin Marks
I think ustream is buggy too
- Christian Burns
Phone companies are trouble all the way round
- Michael Krigsman
I've been pondering this new iPhone. perhaps this device is in my future.. :)
- Kevin Costain
My 4s is waiting at home.
- Eric - Temp Giants Fan
if it has a bigger aperture, it may be less sharp
- Kevin Marks
Is that Nikon film camera we saw there?
- Michael Krigsman
F100 maybe?
- Eric - Temp Giants Fan
4S improvements were mostly for low-light shooting
- Ankush Narula
Turbo C for DOS is the best...:)
- Kevin Costain
"Steve Jobs's death increased sales of iPhone 4S" - that was funny
- Ankush Narula
Oh yea @Kevin.. I used that book in College (if I remember correctly).. great stuff..
- Kevin Costain
Page views online and eyeballs in print -- same motivators, different tools. Blah.
- Michael Krigsman
Michael: yup, it's a Nikon F2 made in the 1970s.
- Robert Scoble
I've had it 22 years, and I knew exactly where it was to take that photo
- Kevin Marks
Robert: obviously there is a story there
- Michael Krigsman
Say, I've been pondering the role of journalists as so-called "experts", but they actually don't do anything other than report on things other people actually do. Is there actually the large disconnect that I think there is?
- Kevin Costain
@Kevin - I have that book somewhere at home too... be hard to find it I think.. :(
- Kevin Costain
There is no current business model for profitable newspaper publishing, and people say blogging the replacement. However, there is also no business model for bloggers, in general. Seems that news has a little problem.
- Michael Krigsman
What if the college students ranked newspapers? http://wapo.st/rrFaXr
- John Taschek
The only ones still buying newspapers turns out to be newspapers… http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...
- David Berry
ActivityStreams Facebook style
- Ankush Narula
lost Kevin. Hope not for good
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Not to spread it more...https://plus.google.com/1126787...
- Alex de Soto
@Micheal - indeed, the business model for that stuff may be worth investigation.. but I speak more of those in the technology industry (that make money by making technology work, or making technology) and those that report ABOUT it. The line that those that report and those that do it seems to be less delineated.. something is up there though I'm probably not articulating it well enough. :)
- Kevin Costain
Steve Yegge deserves Pulitzer
- cliveb
Major manufacturers have ceased production of new motion picture film cameras; cinema as we once knew it is dead -- http://www.salon.com/2011...
- David Berry
BlackBerry crumble(s)
- cliveb
my mac kernel panicked. rebooted, trying skype again
- Kevin Marks
I see allot of these BOLD statements about technology almost for the sake of being bold.. but where is the substance behind it? Are these people making these bold statements ever in the position to have to back these things up?
- Kevin Costain
It's interesting that Google continues to develop Orkut: http://en.blog.orkut.com/
- Ankush Narula
why would google abandon 70M users of Orkut?
- Kevin Marks
agreed - but why wouldn't they transition them to G+?
- Ankush Narula
G+ has fewer features and a different friend model. would be a big transition. They are ending Buzz.
- Kevin Marks
Orkut is big out in South America right? Google seems to be dumping lots fo stuff lately.
- Kevin Costain
Brazil, India, Estonia...
- Kevin Marks
Most Brazilians I know have abandoned their beloved Orkut and even MSN Chat for Facebook and Facebook Chat
- Stephen Pickering
right, the more westernized ones go FB first. I've heard 'orkut is now the myspace of brazil'
- Kevin Marks
I do wish I had gone into Brazil when I was down in Boliva last April.. it was possible..
- Kevin Costain
and we're off the air?
- Ankush Narula
bringing it back up... trying
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Of the air for me (in Toronto, Ontario).... :(
- Kevin Costain
Gonna get Footloose, Cut Footloose. haha
- Kevin Costain
we're working on it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
should be momentary
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh, speaking of outages, RIM's was pretty rough. Essentially all of my customers hate Blackberry's now. Consumers are fickle.
- Kevin Costain
Roger McNamee was on CNBC this morning. Do we believe his forecasts?
- Stephen Pickering
is gabe sitting on a bouncy ball?
- Kevin Marks
Perhaps that will pass.. I guess the good thing is people's memories tend to be short.. and when they're locked into two and three year contracts, they won't remember this when it's time to renew.
- Kevin Costain
hang in there folks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Check this out.. Gmail just gave me an obvious SPAM message.. I checked more details and it says "Important mainly because it was sent directly to you.". I'm thinking, that's not too strict if that's all they're checking.. :)
- Kevin Costain
gabe is commissioning stories for techmeme now?
- Kevin Marks
Copycats, easy and low cost to create Apps and get Distribution, more freelancers than Startups.
- cliveb
Bummer that the stream is down.
- Robert Scoble
Hey how did Calacanis get a live youtube account?
- Stephen Pickering
techmeme posts tweets now
- Kevin Marks
we're still trying to bring the stream back up.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Its off the Air at Ustream now
- Mansoor
appreciate your patience. we're goin a bit nuts here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
here we go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
:)
- Kevin Costain
Yapeee...its back up!
- Mansoor
MG was good at turning ambient twitter conversation into blogposts. Is Gabe taking that over?
- Kevin Marks
how about that.
- Aron Michalski
Well, like him or not, Fred has integrity in the community. If he lost that, he wouldn't make Techmeme, I don't think
- Stephen Pickering
So what's happened with Techmeme? I have I missed something?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: exactly. Integrity is one of my favorite words.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: we always try to figure out what Techmeme is about. :-)
- Robert Scoble
hahahaha :-)
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: What exactly is the arbiter of integrity?
- Kevin Costain
Dork Wars.
- Aron Michalski
haha.. who are you fighting.. ?
- Kevin Costain
Nas v Jay-Z?
- Eric - Temp Giants Fan
I think the arbiter of integrity is the sense they put truth and objectivity above money and personal gain
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: Integrity is "are you what you seem?" So, if you are a criminal, and everyone knows it, you have integrity. Now, if everyone thinks you are a Rabbi, but you actually are a criminal, then you don't have integrity.
- Robert Scoble
Stephen: Indeed that is one nice definition of integrity.. but I'm more interested in what decides who does or doesn't operate with integrity?
- Kevin Costain
yeah - like Omar on The Wire - that dude had integrity
- Ankush Narula
someone flew a kite in the WSJ which gabe picked up. Maybe they were trying to get valuations down.
- Kevin Marks
Why is Steve getting more credit than Bill gates? Bill put a PC in the hands of villagers in developing countries. He put them in failing inner city schools. Steve Jobs put computers in the hands of the well-off.
- David Lloyd
I do know what it's like to live with integrity. Indeed, this is essential. But, when we have those out there and we lack personal involvement with these people. What helps me know that this person has integrity.
- Kevin Costain
look back to Apple II, David
- Kevin Marks
David: because Bill put products in my hand that crash and are ugly. He will get lots of love when he dies, too.
- Robert Scoble
There's usually 2 questions you need to ask yourself; 1) is this a pot of S&^t? and 2) Am I going to stir it?
- Aron Michalski
The "Beige" Boxes heheheh
- Stephen Pickering
I consider this more of a Klout thing. Klout being a measure of influence, right?
- Kevin Costain
Klout measures online popularity and topicality. I wouldn't go as far as saying it truly measures influence.
- Robert Scoble
But it gets us at least partway down that road.
- Robert Scoble
Eh. Bill Gates changed computing as much as Steve Jobs did - the love won't be the same for Bill because the Microsoft message has become about malware, "Product Activations", and sales channels
- Ankush Narula
the Mac was the first beige box... the PCs were metal before
- Kevin Marks
There is a reasonable chance Bill Gates will help erradicate Malaria and put clean water in villages in the Sudan. I know who I think changed the world the most.
- David Lloyd
It doesn't have to be pissing contest. They've both done great things
- Stephen Pickering
Sure. Popularity and topicality are not influence. I think something like tying honesty and integrity to an identity would give words of those with more of it, more weight.
- Kevin Costain
I've read Steve Jobs was a dick at times. +1 for him right there.... :)
- Kevin Costain
The greatest geniuses always have the greatest weaknesses. Without the dick part, you wouldn't have the genius part
- Stephen Pickering
I do consider Jobs a genius. If I had met and interacted with him, I'd probably know for sure.
- Kevin Costain
Stream died again.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Oh, there it is. )
- Kevin Costain
Which article?
- Stephen Pickering
Which Journalist?
- Stephen Pickering
Names, names
- Stephen Pickering
This specific world required a new group of experts to translate what was happening. Then this world began becoming the the world around us all.
- Aron Michalski
Well, guys.. I have to run.. cheers.. thanks for the show today..!
- Kevin Costain
1-click purchasing patent - huge innovation
- Ankush Narula
"My Documents" folder patent - amazing innovation
- Ankush Narula
I like that better with the screen ratio
- Stephen Pickering
and when the money gets big enough, the old money types (all money types) take it for real. It becomes mainstream when the big dogs want a bite.
- Aron Michalski
How dare they make a beautiful product
- Christian Burns
Your hammer looks just like my hammer!
- Stephen Pickering
Thats way too pretty, make it uglier please
- Christian Burns
you can turn flash off
- Kevin Marks
I'd rather it have flash
- Stephen Pickering
Innovation is what you leave out - just as much as what you include
- Ankush Narula
it needed a stylus
- Kevin Marks
haha
- Ankush Narula
who was that? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Microsoft Metro?
- Ankush Narula
w8
- Jerome Hughes
never cared about it before
- Kevin Marks
@stephen - this is the one: http://gawker.com/5847344...
- John Taschek
@stephen - and this was a more recent post that referenced it - http://www.forbes.com/sites... - horrible journalism.
- John Taschek
Ah, thanks John
- Stephen Pickering
MeatierGazer
- Kevin Marks
ha
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how much did I miss?
- Christopher Harris
The whole thing
- Christian Burns
booo
- Christopher Harris
Big trend killing processing latency: Facebook ticker, Google Pregel. Salesforce GraphDB arch for distributed Chatter.
- cliveb
Thanks everyone.
- Aron Michalski
thanks for everyone tuning in, chatting and having a great time. Have a good weekend
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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excellent
- Kevin Marks
have I got time to grab some Tea?
- Kevin Marks
Hanging by waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
will you all be recording this?
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
We always do. Should still be on techcrunch tomorrow.
- Robert Scoble
hi all
- Aron Michalski
famous call is coming
- Tina Chase Gillmor
running a wee bit ;ate...sorry everyone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Operators are now standing by...
- Robert Scoble
No worries, Tina
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Tina... I'd expect it, I'm usually a few weeks slow after Europe.
- Aron Michalski
Thanks Robert.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
hey Francine!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
couple of glitches we are swatting away
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My 10 minutes of non-interruption must be coming up - 2 year old will be breaking and entering my office at any moment.
- John Taschek
I don't know if you saw my "in a funk" post: https://plus.google.com/1110910...
- Robert Scoble
But I'm not looking forward to today's show.
- Robert Scoble
I usually love these shows, because we talk about the future. But I have a feeling that's not what we're talking about today.
- Robert Scoble
hi Aron - hanging out in my garage on a glorious Chicago(land) October afternoon
- Jerome Hughes
Steve in black.
- cliveb
you have to be involved with a patent to be listed on it, so Steve was involved
- Charlie Isaacs
Yup.
- Robert Scoble
Moe: good way to put it.
- Robert Scoble
gah, my comcast cut out for a minute
- Kevin Marks
Mighty big hole in the World right now :-(
- Stephen Pickering
Thanks for giving Doc the first wack;
- Aron Michalski
I like Doc Searls' Buddhist point that without Jobs vacating the space, further growth is not possible.
- Francine Hardaway
That was a really good summary by Doc, made me feel a lot
- Stephen Pickering
A life well-lived. What more can anyone expect? It's a sad thing but hardly an ending.
- Karoli
I regret Steve's "hobby" -Apple TV- did not roll out in elaborated fashion before he passed. I was looking forward to Apple disrupting another hide-bound industry: TV
- r Macdonald
Robert is choked up and it's choking me up
- Robert J Taylor
r Macdonald: I agree. I can't wait to see what Apple's working on there.
- Robert Scoble
I know, I hate being sad, but that's how I feel
- Stephen Pickering
don't you all think he had enough time to lay out a vision for what he saw and time to pull in people who could execute it?
- Karoli
Data is not everything
- Francine Hardaway
struggling with Danny's audio. sorry
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina: I could hear it all.
- Robert Scoble
Karoli, I think we overestimate how far he was able to see into the future. Remember it's not that he invented the tablet, or the mp3 player, or the computer: he made them BETTER.
- Francine Hardaway
some gaps on the stream, but not enough to lose the meaning
- Kevin Marks
That's what worries me. He somehow needs to be here to help us make things better.
- Francine Hardaway
he was a worldwide influencer
- Tina Chase Gillmor
few are
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Perhaps we can that the esthetic sense and simplistic interfaces and move forward, keep it simple, keep it beautiful.
- Aron Michalski
it was about getting it done in time, not right now.
- Kevin Marks
not releasing until it was ready
- Kevin Marks
It's also part of our time. Hewlett and Packard had just as big an impact, I'd argue, but their impact was in a time before YouTube. Steve Jobs is a world-wide celebrity, arguably the first of Silicon Valley's history.
- Robert Scoble
Here is a link to the Tim Berner-Lee post yesterday, about using NeXT to support his development of URIs, HTTP and HTML http://www.w3.org/QA...
- r Macdonald
I felt that way when I heard Any Grove had Parkinson's disease. He is a hero to me.
- Francine Hardaway
here's the playboy interview: http://www.scribd.com/doc...
- Kevin Marks
Thanks Kevin!
- Stephen Pickering
Well said Steve. Disrupting powerful players and bending them to his will - indeed.
- r Macdonald
The French didn't get Steve vision. See their serious newspaper 'Le monde' : http://www.lemonde.fr/societe.... Fundamental difference marked by Americans !
- Guy Vander Heyden
Gentlemen, do you think Tim Cook can bend additional media industries, like TV content and distribution, to Apple's will & new products?
- r Macdonald
the next Steve Jobs will be a group of people, a braintrust who can work together like great musicians
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Well, Tim Cook has $60 billion to push around and he has Steve Jobs' shoes to fill, so he knows that he better do some big things. But, most of my head is saying Moe is right.
- Robert Scoble
Little known Steve's support for medical research. Stanford's Joel Dudley convinced Apple to add Ruby and other capabilities http://macresearch.org/about_m...
- cliveb
Tina: funny, I wrote just that to someone last night.
- Robert Scoble
Robert... great minds....;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe: "replacing Mick Jagger with Kenny Rodgers" ouch
- r Macdonald
Danny is right about the carriers. I can't figure out an economical way to upgrade my iPhone. If I switch to Verizon, I can get a phone for $299, and then I have to do something with whatever I left left on my AT&T contract. And it's not unlocked.
- Francine Hardaway
android is a knock-off of sidekick, but it got a great browser from Apple
- Kevin Marks
I agree - our whole world has changed.
- Teri Temme
40 million used to mean something
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Jobs was a great and powerful pitchman. He had to pitch his revolutionary trojan horses to folks like printers, cell carriers, record companies, publishers and film and video distributors. Apple will need to replace this facet of his talent. Who will be able to do this at Apple?
- Alex de Soto
funny, Tina, I was thinking the same thing.
- Karoli
Alex, Apple has other people who do that, but no-one as well.
- Kevin Marks
Alex: Kevin is right. Jobs isn't replaceable. But they will find their own voice over the next few years.
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Kevin: I really hope you are right. I'm counting on it.
- Alex de Soto
Good to have the Onion right now
- Francine Hardaway
John Lennon was shot. We knew Steve was ill. Big difference. Still painful.
- Alex de Soto
Steve. Another victim of pancreatic cancer. Help out: http://pancan.org/section...
- cliveb
12 Apostles.
- Alex de Soto
Moe: yes. It's the best way to use AirPlay. Are you throwing away your iPad or iPhones?
- Robert Scoble
AppleTV needs to take off before GoogleTV
- cliveb
Greatest commencement speech ever
- Stephen Pickering
Deep link into Steve's 2005 graduation speech segment on on the importance of remembering he will be dead soon http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- r Macdonald
Westboro Baptist Church to protest (please puncture their tires)
- cliveb
which they announced on their iphones.
- Karoli
Protest what?
- Francine Hardaway
the Angel technique still works on them. and parody signs. Violence is what they want, then they sue.
- Kevin Marks
Westboro are just culture parasites. They attack anything popular so that they can get paid attention to. If we stop paying attention to them they go away.
- Robert Scoble
What are they protesting?
- Stephen Pickering
Right. Why would they ever protest Jobs' funeral. It's not like he was gay or political
- Francine Hardaway
attention whores. that's who they are.
- Karoli
Interesting undercurrent to the discussion is the continued fight against the entrenched interests -- carriers, publishers, networks. That's a point of commonality for all us in the tech world. Interoperability will be huge, but it will take huge efforts to bring it about.
- Ian McGee
Robert, all of those pieces are teams. I suspect that will be the key to Apple's success.
- Karoli
I wonder how many people will use "Cards" to send sympathy messages to Apple once the app is released. When I first heard about "Cards" I immediately thought of Steve Jobs, even though many laughed about this seemingly silly app.
- Alex de Soto
Jobs was a critic
- Kevin Marks
Someone who gives their life to something
- Stephen Pickering
Bezos?
- Robert J Taylor
Perfection, Simplicity and Secrecy.
- Teri Temme
Bezos is the closest I think
- Stephen Pickering
Who insisted on rounded corners for software windows with a radius just so?
- Alex de Soto
thanks guys.until next time.
- Aron Michalski
Who placed FCC certifications on a cell phone more elegantly than Jobs?
- Alex de Soto
alex, steve insisted on round rects: http://folklore.org/StoryVi...
- Kevin Marks
Who ignored blu-ray?
- Alex de Soto
Bezos is a genius but he doesn't build things of beauty. Want me to pull up the videos about the original Kindle?
- Robert Scoble
Bezos and Amazon's driving force is to build things at low cost. That doesn't mean they will bring us beautiful things.
- Robert Scoble
Robert but he is similar in that he tries to remove friction from the buying process and make the process fun and beautiful
- Stephen Pickering
That just tells you about the importance of beauty, design, and ease of use
- Francine Hardaway
WWSJD?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Right Kevin :) I could go on with thousands of examples where Jobs made incredibly inspired design decisions. He was more like the old car designers who lovingly thought about every curve on a car.
- Alex de Soto
Danny, iTunes was Job's way of keeping us humble. ;-)
- Ian McGee
hi Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It could be that iTunes complexity was to try to assure the music industry that their system would be "safe" - as far flung as that might seem
- Stephen Pickering
iTunes needs a rethink. Spotify is that rethink.
- Robert Scoble
Richard Stallman: "I'm not glad he's dead, but I'm glad he's gone." http://bit.ly/n50IWd
- cliveb
Ouch. That's tough
- Stephen Pickering
Nothing wrong with Wordstar key combinations. Now vi -- that's a problem. ;-)
- Ian McGee
Spotify requires a Facebook login. Very short-sighted, and limiting.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Richard Stallman is an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
iTunes is getting a rethink with iCloud, so sync isn't t required and backup happens
- Kevin Marks
What a horrible thing to write.
- Robert Scoble
But Stallman is probably autistic. My own son does stuff that's hurtful without realizing it because he just doesn't have the brain for social cues.
- Robert Scoble
So, I should be more understanding of Stallman and his condition.
- Robert Scoble
I was talking to Rana-June Sobhany about that - iPad as musical instrument
- Kevin Marks
Most of the people in the world have Facebook. That actually is a brilliant decision and the Gillmor Gang in 2020 will discuss just how brilliant it was.
- Robert Scoble
"Stallman and his condition" well said
- cliveb
Reminds me of how Clinton can persuade you even when you disagree
- Stephen Pickering
Some have said Steve and Apple didn't "Get social" What do you think?
- r Macdonald
I don't think its they didn't get it, they just couldn't do everything
- Stephen Pickering
r Macdonald: both true and false. Jobs got how we would talk about his products and made them HYPER conversational. Why else ship an iPod with white headphones?
- Robert Scoble
Jobs jettisoned the physical keyboard and need for a stylus on a smartphone. That move alone was brilliant and gutsy.
- Alex de Soto
it's gonna be a WWSJD world for a while
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My question mark is how will Apple do with the Cloud?
- Stephen Pickering
Interesting take, Robert. Products that are inherently drivers of social discussion & adoption, but no closed gardens for social interchange.
- r Macdonald
Stephen: I do worry about what will happen next week. Hope it goes well.
- Alex de Soto
i hope Danny is talking about upgrading the phone...not the wife ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Beatles?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
4S stands for Siri...
- cliveb
SIRI's semantic intelligence could be disruptive
- r Macdonald
Tina, exactly, his impact is just like the Beatles
- Stephen Pickering
did you see the Warhol/Jobs/Sean Lennon story?
- Kevin Marks
Thanks for sharing everyone. Good show.
- Alex de Soto
stay hungry stay foolish
- cliveb
r Macdonald: yeah, I still love Siri. I remember the day I saw that tech for the first time. Really amazing stuff.
- Robert Scoble
I'm so happy I got to see what they are doing.
- Robert Scoble
Andy Warhol’s Meeting With Steve Jobs at Sean Lennon's Bday party story: http://linguisticcapital.wordpress.com/2011...
- r Macdonald
thanks r Macdonald...I'll have to read that one
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Both Andrew Ng and Peter Norvig classes start Monday ml-class.org al-class.com
- cliveb
Great link rMac and Kevin. Thanks
- Stephen Pickering
also in the playboy interview Tina
- Kevin Marks
Awesome show - thanks!!!
- Teri Temme
Thank you all
- r Macdonald
WOw, that got tough in the last minute.
- Robert Scoble
So sad to see Steve so sad...Tina, Steve...
- Francine Hardaway
sitting shiva
- Kevin Marks
thank you
- Hilary Talbot
Thanks everyone.
- Robert Scoble
Nice job. 'night
- Ian McGee
- cliveb
I think Bezos is enabling people to build awesome things especially with the Cloud. The investment in capacity and the functionality of AWS is awesome. Changes IT immensely.
- Robert J Taylor
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Hopefully the discussion today will be on "Fire." ;)
- Alex de Soto
I bet Steve hates the Fire. And he will probably utterly dismiss it.
- David Lloyd
7 min and counting.... Oops 6!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Is Robert Scoble in the house or MIA?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ahh just getting him in now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm here.
- Robert Scoble
Quick tech glitch...standby
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Standby
- Robert Scoble
Stay on target! :-)
- Robert Scoble
and it's really real…
- Jerome Hughes
taking over the world? Meh. Nice tool for the AMZ silo.
- Karoli
When you combine retail, AWS, and the tablet direction, the world is becoming Jeff's oyster.
- Michael Mahemoff
Which makes the kindle a Segway?
- Michael Mahemoff
who's letting off fireworks in the park?
- Kevin Marks
bike > car
- Jerome Hughes
Chrome browser to Android (finally) http://bit.ly/mQbBsA
- cliveb
i just have iphone - too small to read on so i use kindle on the mac/whatever
- mal
reminds a bit of eclipse plug in differences
- Jerome Hughes
What about the Amazon buying Palm OS from HP rumor. Any teeth to the rumor?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Does Microsoft get royalties on the Fire too?
- Alex de Soto
it's all about how far you fold it from your eyes
- Kevin Marks
MS will probably ask for licensing. I can't see why not.
- Michael Mahemoff
When is Apple TV going to release an app store? That will change everything.
- Fraser Cain
Walmart's on a roll with their new lab. They are probably very interested in WebOS.
- Michael Mahemoff
slowly decreasing percentage of quickly increasing market... ok
- Jerome Hughes
actually there's very little beatles on spotify
- Ankush Narula
We're going to have to turn into flies so we can watch so many screens at one time.
- Alex de Soto
amazon won't buy palm
- Kevin Marks
you got a blind, for one
- Jerome Hughes
Spotify only has Beatles covers afaict. Artists "#1 Beatles Now" and "The Ultimate Beatles Cover Band" aren't the Beatles.
- Michael Mahemoff
they only have Mozart covers too
- Kevin Marks
Kindle has no apps because Amazon was holding off on their platform, waiting for Android. Change again to WebOS and they set the clock back another 18 months.
- Michael Mahemoff
they're hiring: http://aws.amazon.com/amazons...
- Kevin Marks
More likely Oracle buys Palm for mobile strategy like SAP (funded by Android royalties)
- cliveb
Walmart otoh has a blank slate and apparently a mandate for acquisitions.
- Michael Mahemoff
The Amazon Android fork already has set them back in time. Will only get worse unless Amazon creates a full OS team to keep their fork relevent.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
a blank slate? is that one with no apps?
- Kevin Marks
Not even a web browser.
- Michael Mahemoff
A single SPDY thread, that's why it's called silk (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets...)
- Michael Mahemoff
Thanks, Michael!
- Robert Scoble
Moe: no, he's trying to keep up with Zuckerberg.
- Robert Scoble
Not sure but the Fire seems to have a better form factor for video (widescreen) than the current iPad.
- Alex de Soto
they are a shopping company. they want you to shop
- Kevin Marks
Fire is 16:9, like most Android tablets, and Mac Laptops
- Kevin Marks
and iMacs, come to think of it
- Kevin Marks
Alex: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
And you can check out Kindle books from some public libraries.
- Alex de Soto
Moe: the killer guy at Microsoft is the guy who runs the law department.
- Robert Scoble
if only microsoft had had someone 8 years ago touting the benefits of tablets....
- mal
Moe: agreed.
- Robert Scoble
Hey guys and gals
- Christian Burns
Hi Christian!
- Robert Scoble
Who would be stupid enough to invest in bandwidth when the US Gov can make you resell it to competitors at no profit? That's why
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, my google plus following has gone nuts. :) Thanks for sharing
- Christian Burns
examine some past infrastructure you know well in the present... http://www.historicaerials.com/
- Jerome Hughes
bollocks, Stephen. structural separation works
- Kevin Marks
better late than never.
- Aron Michalski
Bollocks, Kevin, there's no free market in communications. That's why we don' t have fiber connections at competitive prices
- Stephen Pickering
infrastructure evolves based on demand which also evolves
- Jerome Hughes
we have the worst of both worlds - local monopolies with no structural separation
- Kevin Marks
how about duct neutrality?
- Kevin Marks
I have dark fiber going by my house, if only I could tap it.
- Christian Burns
Where does the US rank in net performance? http://www.netindex.com/ - not in top 10. But 4th in the G8 http://www.netindex.com/downloa...
- John Taschek
they look suspiciously like record execs from 10 years ago
- Jerome Hughes
an invitation to compete
- Jerome Hughes
Grey Davies, Action star
- Kevin Marks
except for that whole Honeycomb source code thing
- Ankush Narula
That's called the free market
- Stephen Pickering
The intersection of politics and tech!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The fork is the big issue which should be the real concern for buying the Fire.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
my mac.com accounts have stopped worked
- Kevin Marks
All of this is a mute point. As soon as it is OPENED or Cracked it is a game changer. Barnes and Noble NOOK
- amarquart
From the Amazon website: "Your Favorite Apps and Games... Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, The Weather Channel and more, plus a great paid app for free every day. All apps are Amazon-tested on Kindle Fire for the best experience possible."
- Alex de Soto
woohoo!! Amazon Android free apps. I got some of those in my Dell Streak 7
- Da
so why is Google adding 3rd campus in Seattle (840 person Bothell bldg)
- cliveb
Hey another Dell Streak 7 owner :) #iwork4dell
- Susan Beebe
google is hiring all over the place - huge building in London too
- Kevin Marks
interesting... Google Social expansion?
- Susan Beebe
apple broke my mac.com accounts last night too
- Kevin Marks
friend at meetup last night was asked what his next Android would be... his response... iPhone 5
- Jerome Hughes
let me know we're eagerly anticipating the Gingerbread upgrade on the Steak 7, Susan
- Da
mmm, Steak
- Kevin Marks
hmm. thought spring cleaning could reduce Google's need for additional Engineers
- cliveb
The Huawei Honor Android Gingerbread Phone claims three days on a single charge...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
it's yummy too
- Da
This show always continues to amaze me. Packed with info and educated opinion. You guys rock! Sorry don't mean to applaud our own show but...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wait a minute. Windows 8 is focused on tablet use....
- amarquart
I don't even remember to charge the blackberry
- Kevin Marks
amarquart: exactly. It's far less interesting.
- Robert Scoble
BECAUSE of the Amazon.
- Robert Scoble
I should give it back
- Kevin Marks
One thing Rim does is product placement. Seems like every new movie and tv show the actors are using a Blackberry. Won't HTML5 help Rim hang on?
- Stephen Pickering
those Android IDEOS phones that Huawei's been selling like hotcakes in Kenya is probably optimized for long battery life
- Da
and minis (or at least the OS) ~ a good friend in that space says the best thing ever to happen to RIM is iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
Blackberry haz cheaper data plans (x3 texting kids mks difference)
- cliveb
I had to use a blackberry in London. Yuck. I hated it!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android is diversifying into all the phone niches - Huawei are replacing the feature phone niche that Nokia thought they owned
- Kevin Marks
A black hole that the (average) consumer of Facebook doesn't seem to want...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Most of the tablets I saw when I was in the Philippines in May were Samsung Galaxy 7's
- Da
popular isn't the same as ubiquitous
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft has it's relationship with Facebook? No?
- Stephen Pickering
True Kevin...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Balmer is going to try to buy their way in. And that is why it will fail. stigma
- amarquart
Facebook's Project Spartan would be big on feature phones
- Da
facebook zero was aimed at that maket
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer for nobel prize in black holes!
- cliveb
hmm, I dunno though, in the most of the world, Microsoft's still pretty unanimous with computers. It might be a no-name box but it runs on Windows
- Da
Microsoft will distribute through Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
MS has Bing! and XBox. A relationship w/Facebook, Skype. Hate to say it, but they will have a conduit into the black holes.
- Alex de Soto
what proportion of IE browsers have google toolbar installed?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin's hair and the trees behind him are moving in tandem; synced?
- Aron Michalski
It's IE 8 here with the Google toolbar
- Da
now
- Jerome Hughes
doing my bit to stress the video codecs...
- Kevin Marks
caching is learning
- Kevin Marks
I was wondering if it was a Pixar algorithm...
- Aron Michalski
The new Page rank? The whoisme rank.
- Arnie Klaus
don't concentrate on who has already made the purchase but whom influenced the decision
- amarquart
next time I'll try and sit in front of a lake with sunlight glinting off it. Codecs hate that.
- Kevin Marks
Kred==PeopleBrowsr's product
- Michael Mahemoff
wondering why Micrososft put money in Facebook a while back
- Da
it's good when your clueless score plummets
- Jerome Hughes
MSFT seems to be cooking up a new GraphDB (Redmond Blackhole)
- cliveb
sounds like Max Headroom
- Kevin Marks
companies in the business of herding cats
- Jerome Hughes
I'm glad I have no Klout. I'd rather learn a language to communicate with someone else in the world than know the t shirt preference of a 20 something in a mall...
- Aron Michalski
his Klout score is zero but he's in everyone's circle, he's the most interesting man in the world
- Da
washington general motors
- Jerome Hughes
follower spam! not a fan of sharing G+ circle
- cliveb
perhaps
- Jerome Hughes
apple's ping should approach google to be their spotify/fb
- mal
that would be a nice improvement on Ping
- Da
Primordial Ooze (social gone dark)
- cliveb
I'm oozing that comment (like plus 1...)
- Aron Michalski
ping will be subsumed in twitter
- Kevin Marks
but is Apple really into social?
- Da
what does he do about those who abstain?
- Jerome Hughes
and maybe i wont have to watch ads for domestic beer
- mal
Imagine if they could track things that don't involve sitting around in front of a screen...
- Aron Michalski
mal - by any chance do you need a truck?
- Jerome Hughes
Rather to think about Facebook aggregating yet more content. Of course, it's the Zuckerberg dream come true.
- Michael Krigsman
Here's an interesting Google+ related site that aggregates my content -- https://www.foldedsoft.at/+...
- Susan Beebe
Tera Nova is not bad lol
- Susan Beebe
Terra Novacaine
- Stephen Pickering
Hah.
- Robert Scoble
Pike Kilt Lifter sure beats Budweiser
- cliveb
lol
- Susan Beebe
RIP Tevatron … bit.ly/o2zzwC
- Jerome Hughes
I helped a friend with a problem (how would that effect my score if I didn't send them a promoted link?)
- Aron Michalski
Everyone wants to collect your most personal details with intimate fidelity, to sell more and more shit you don't really need << bad mood about this today.
- Michael Krigsman
check out San Miguel beer
- Da
PLEASE Stream it this time ...
- Susan Beebe
haha
- Susan Beebe
iWontbethere...
- Aron Michalski
your opinions are more important than your presences
- Jerome Hughes
the coffee at Apple HQ is good
- Kevin Marks
YEP - the koolaid is even better!
- Susan Beebe
great shot of Steve chuckling, Tina!
- Jerome Hughes
We need centralization to build markets and consolidate customers, but at some point it's too much. Question becomes, what is that breakover point where it becomes bad.
- Michael Krigsman
when we're all in the Matrix
- Da
Will you guys talk about the greatness of HP and Oracle, or did I miss that part yet :-)
- Michael Krigsman
competition breeds success
- Jerome Hughes
Michael: hahahahahahahhah.
- Robert Scoble
YAY, glad to see the show continue :)
- Susan Beebe
Great show! Kept me in the office until 5:30 pm (EDT). Have a great weekend.
- Alex de Soto
HP and Oracle were not waterboarded
- cliveb
real men watch this in lynx
- mal
Applause for Tina :)
- Susan Beebe
bought around the same time- my bought-new HP desktop conked out before my bought-used Dell desktop, yikes!
- Da
++ Susan
- Jerome Hughes
Ream men love HP :-)
- Michael Krigsman
thanks everybody.
- Aron Michalski
lol meant to say real men
- Michael Krigsman
Great show!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Thanks and Happy Rosh Hashana :)
- Nir Ben Yona
… and Aron.
- Jerome Hughes
L'Shana Tovah
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Will need to miss today but I just watched a few older episodes on my phone yesterday. Magical. Thanks Steve and Tina.
- Christian Burns
Starting shortly
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
thanks to you Christian.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hello everyone
- Mark Vaske
State of the twunion?
- Kevin Marks
hello!!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
44% of the active users are inactive?
- Kevin Marks
he, he
- Tina Chase Gillmor
lurkers evolve into users
- Jerome Hughes
or urkers, drop the L...
- Aron Michalski
Ex-radio listeners have become Twitter lurkers, no?
- Alex de Soto
An "edge case"?
- Brian Sullivan
if I was to ask a question and get 30,000 answers, it would be almost impossible for me to find useful.
- Aron Michalski
It's becoming so spammy too, almost Myspace spammy
- Stephen Pickering
tune out some noise
- Jerome Hughes
the other is if a keyword is sniffed I get 5 more spambot follows and misdirects.
- Aron Michalski
thats atypical for the average g+ user. FB still dominates average user conversation.
- Mark Vaske
Conversations with brands work on Twitter, Especially with customer service folks.
- Alex de Soto
it was actually a typo; Bantams are dead, he had chicken for lunch.
- Aron Michalski
definitely great for contacting developers
- Mark Vaske
Scoble reminds me of this old Dvorak column about blogging: http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Kevin Marks
Scoble looks like he's in a Peter Gabriel video...
- Aron Michalski
people use twitter, people don't use google+
- Mark Vaske
G+ devrel advice set up a circle just for Scoble (only go when u hv time)
- cliveb
Zuckerberg on G+ follows Marks's law of twitter: if you tweet you lose followers; if you're retweeted you gain followers. By not posting, no-one unfollows Zuck
- Kevin Marks
Not posting public and not posting aren't the same thing. It's possible Zuckerberg has posted, just not publicly.
- James Williams
What Google is doing is building a cloud operating system, and the value proposition is the integration of all the parts, with a Social Network being just one part
- Stephen Pickering
Counting only posts is not the same as counting all interaction.
- James Williams
Peter Norvig's researchers and machine learning are all over G+
- cliveb
Posts + comments should be used as a measure against tweets
- Brian Sullivan
true, James.
- Kevin Marks
but unless google releases figures like twitter just did, that would be hard to compare
- Kevin Marks
any thoughts about the WSJ article on Zynga? "We're an analytics company masquerading as a gaming company." Different goal makes for different business plan?
- Aron Michalski
you can spark it...
- Mark Vaske
I'm on
- Keith Teare
A tweet can be original content or a reply. Until we count posts and +1's and comments, we won't have an accurate number. +1 Brian
- James Williams
Google + might just be a placeholder.
- Aron Michalski
FriendFeed is still better than Google+ technically and functionally.
- Brian Sullivan
well not +1's - that woudl be counting favorites on twitter
- Kevin Marks
Keith, how much do you use Google + ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
but the flat nature of tweets is in some ways an advantage
- Kevin Marks
Here we go again... "Normal". Elitist crap.
- Aron Michalski
Daily peek, don't publish much
- Keith Teare
interesting. Me too.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's not so much search as it is getting content onto their system as oppossed to a competitor's cloud system that is closed off from the open web
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin, I don't think +1s are conceptually the same. I plus +1 things that I agree with, not necessarily things I want to save for later (I have a Favorites circle for that).
- James Williams
Herman Caine seemed the most Reaganesque to me. He was cool.
- Stephen Pickering
G+ is like scanning a newspaper rather than having a channel on 24/7
- Aron Michalski
I tried their exporter out when talking about microformats with Sarah Perez this week, and was surprised how few g+ posts I'd made
- Kevin Marks
Danny, I just figured out why Elliot wanted real names.com
- Keith Teare
+Aron yes, G+ prolly research
- cliveb
It's a G+ play - obviously
- Keith Teare
Elliot who?
- Kevin Marks
I have a folder of 15 actual friends...
- Aron Michalski
WTF does using a "real (sounding) name" have to with identifying a person?
- Brian Sullivan
I don't even know what yahoo does or stands for. It's ridiculous
- Stephen Pickering
Hay for the farm. Next.
- Aron Michalski
I know a lot of smart people at Yahoo, but also a lot of legacy process that needs fixing
- Kevin Marks
No one knows what yahoo is because it isn't anything
- Stephen Pickering
I should wear my Google Apps NSA t-shirt (Not Search or Ads)
- Kevin Marks
Waiting for a Combine.
- Aron Michalski
Yahoo Finance is the only reason I use Yahoo.
- James Williams
Good job Jerry + Akiko paid for Y2E2 when the stock was high
- cliveb
Are you sure NSA isn't their association with National Security?
- Aron Michalski
what about the new iPad app
- Mark Vaske
that was the joke, Aron
- Kevin Marks
Sorry Kevin, I'm a bit slow. Mentally.
- Aron Michalski
Google Desktop is the desktop app, not iGoogle.
- James Williams
What if Google+ doesn't actually take off though Robert?
- Mark Vaske
Is Big G gonna need as many engineers after all pruning?
- cliveb
Good point John.
- Aron Michalski
Groups and their homepage are still huge
- Kevin Marks
Stereo Scoble...oof!
- Aron Michalski
what happens when netflix looses starz?
- Mark Vaske
Bartz proves enterprise CEOs mismatched for Consumer Web
- cliveb
Prodigy > AOL > Yahoo! > Facebook > ?
- Alex de Soto
robert can you mute, I'm getting echo from you
- Kevin Marks
Here's a question: who do you take an established community and port them over if they don't respond to social gold stars?
- Aron Michalski
Don't solve problems, don't fix anything, do something cool
- Stephen Pickering
...and here's the part of the show where we provide major SV company's lots of free advice! You're welcome
- Tina Chase Gillmor
There are plenty of users(targets) who don't play games, don't check in, don't collect stickers ("grown ups"?) how do you bag them and get them into your universe? Purchase?
- Aron Michalski
right on Robert! notifications Red box
- cliveb
Flickr has somehow lost momentum.
- Aron Michalski
yahoo does have an activity stream: http://pulse.yahoo.com/ not used much thug
- Kevin Marks
NEXT SPRING FOR AN IPAD APP!?
- Mark Vaske
are Yahoo execs listening to GG? Google does.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think my point was how do you get people out of established Yahoo Groups and move them into a new retirement community?
- Aron Michalski
whats Facebook going to do for social tv when apple puts it out?
- Mark Vaske
Alliance with Twitter or shotgun wedding?
- James Williams
Notification bus on iPad is crap
- Kevin Marks
can't stand it
- Kevin Marks
Making a particular network a preferred community.
- Aron Michalski
@Kevin, do you have iOS 5?
- Mark Vaske
Or getting your community onto a preferred network.
- Aron Michalski
3 screens, but one of them is not the desktop? hmm....
- chrisofspades
The imac will become a touchscreen with a stand and a keyboard.
- Aron Michalski
More elitist bullshit. Guess what, the people in the back of the plane spend money too.
- Aron Michalski
ha John
- Mark Vaske
and youre not poor either.
- Aron Michalski
80% of the planet survives on a salary of $2 a day. Are you above that level?
- Aron Michalski
"Now deliver me social..." :)
- James Williams
There are smart, valid people in coach. Spending 3 times more to sit in the front of the plane to get to the same fucking place is just...dopey.
- Aron Michalski
twitter and fb
- Mark Vaske
Aron, *nods*, those in first could also be on free upgrades which I get from time to time even when I purchase coach.
- James Williams
do rich people use Facebook?
- Aron Michalski
20 yrs with Steve married. yep
- Tina Chase Gillmor
congrats
- Mark Vaske
In the early days, that was true because to be on FB, you originally had to be a college student.
- James Williams
I'll take a fat seat anytime the rich stay home. It's nice to be able to reach into your own pants pocket and pull out something (which is hard to do in coach without dislocating your shoulder...)
- Aron Michalski
Kevin he is saying that apple is driving the usage that brings notifications back to the hardware...
- Mark Vaske
Apple didn't invent multitasking....Android and WebOS had it first.
- James Williams
Danny carriers don't control apple software unlike android
- Mark Vaske
Thanks - told him the other day I didn't realize forever would mean 20 &(#($ years
- Tina Chase Gillmor
so absolute control and no choice is better.
- Aron Michalski
There are multiple app stores on Apple. There is Cydia and OpenMarket.
- James Williams
well, Apple had it in 1985 when Andy Herzfeld wrote switcher, but i know what you mean
- Kevin Marks
That's true James.
- Aron Michalski
Full circle: And Yahoo! app search has both Apple and Android apps: http://apps.search.yahoo.com/search...
- Alex de Soto
Well theres your problem.
- Mark Vaske
Sprint will not move Ma Bell and Big Red...they lease lines from them.
- James Williams
Too back the only one left to properly (legally?) crack is Apple TV and that would be interesting
- Aron Michalski
Mission accomplished, Steve.
- Aron Michalski
not seen that, cliveb - URL?
- Kevin Marks
Good to be in a museum and be staring into a phone. So 21st Century.
- Aron Michalski
They bought it to get rich elitests to pay attention to them for a day.
- Aron Michalski
zagat is all about local
- studentforce
Agree with studentforce
- James Williams
ahole
- Mark Vaske
YOL - Yahoo's Out of Luck(lives)
- James Williams
who really cares about yahoo!
- studentforce
nice time fo year to visit london
- Kevin Marks
we can dream...
- Aron Michalski
thanks everybody.
- Aron Michalski
if we had names for the episodes, Yahole has to be it
- Dale Lature
Yahole....I won't forget that one soon!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
thanks to all y'all!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
FriendFeed Blog: FriendFeed now available in فارسی - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
کیان-kian, صینا, Ahmet Yükseltürk and 197 other people liked this
FriendFeed is now available in Persian! Thanks again to all of our Persian users — it has been extremely exciting for us to see FriendFeed so widely used around the world. You can set your language preference here: http://friendfeed.com/...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Any way we could auto-translate (or even have a link with the option to?)? It'd be great to really be able to collaborate with the non-English speaking world...
- Chris Reichow
Thank you all .
- MohammadReza
wow, another language... I can't read it, but that is cool! :)
- Susan Beebe
Now if we could only filter out languages other then our own and have the lang:en search filter.
- DarknessFalls
You're welcome! We are excited to better support our Persian users.
- Bret Taylor
This feels so good to be able to view the pages in a way are eyes used to see Persian writings. Thank you so much! We really appreciate your effort! Thanks again ! :)
- انجل
Yay!
- Mitchell Tsai
that just looks so beautiful :D
- Iphigenie
محشره / غافلگیر شدم
- Shandiz
wow! thanks!
- Pasparto
Anybody know of good Farsi to English web translation tools? Google Translate doesn't seem to do it.
- Ted Gilchrist
蝌蚪文~~~
- junrxu
Great! thanks thanks :)
- Mehrdad
Thanks Dude
- Jimbooo™و لب های یار
Agora precisamos da versão em Português.
- Carlos Brefe
thanks ((((((((:
- yasin ghasemi
Thanks ممنون ;)
- Exir
merci bcp .
- Afra
ممنون
- mohammad mahdi kazzazi
Good job, Bret... Thanks a lot...
- کرگدن
Thanks
- Arash
;) It's FriendFeed.. Bravo - این فرندفید است... براوو
- امیروفسکی
Ok.
- wowfreeze.blogspot.com
Hebrew please. ^^
- David C. Cooper
تشکر جیگر
- سیدیونس
kiss to you honey
- جواد
bretçim herkes google plus'a gidiyor ama ben seni bırakmam ^^
- Aynebilim
Aynebilim'e katılıyorum Bret. Bir sürü idiotla paylaşsam da burayı, vazgeçemiyorum işte. - Ben bu yüzden hiç kimseden gidemem gitmemmmm.. la la laaa
- pippi haşmet
bretçim sana dm atamıyorum..bana abone olur musun ^^
- Aynebilim
interesting! but when will FF users have something like googe's http://www.dataliberation.org/ so we can backup our feeds?
- ovigia
تیلور دوستت داریم :خز
- Diaze.Holmes
میلاد الاغ :))))))
- || بهاره ||
کوفت چرا میخندی؟ :))))))))))
- Diaze.Holmes
روانی :))))))
- || بهاره ||
bu vesileyle mübarek ramazana hoş geldin demek istiyorum..bretçim iftara ne yapayım canım^^
- Aynebilim
:)
- Sahin.Toprak
Have a good day to all of u......
- weerah
your looking good
- Chavez Cecilia
ulan bide sitenin sahibisin arada güncelle bir şeyler yap at kafası.
- Anıl Çağlar SAKA
lan gundi öyle maaş alıp göt büyüteceğine gel de şu insanların çığlığını duy! bankamatik lolipop..
- iwfx!
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Nir Ben Yona, Aron Michalski, Ankush Narula and 8 other people liked this
So I was trying to list what companies you guys talk about: Apple, Facebook, Google, Twitter
- Vezquex
Is there anything else? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gray, our studio cat is already complaining. He knows a show is about to happen and HE's NOT HAPPY.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Where is the Gillmor Gang chat?
- Doug Ellis
this is the Gillmor Gang chat... but show hasn't started yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I have a new Google+ feature (suggested user list, just turned on) to discuss.
- Robert Scoble
Tina - can you post here as the show begins?
- Ankush Narula
from iPhone
show has begun
- Christopher Harris
You are in color for us
- Doug Ellis
Doug: well that's good.
- Robert Scoble
Metallica doesn't suit Steve
- Francine Hardaway
I bet he said no
- Francine Hardaway
Yes!
- Francine Hardaway
I thought you couldn't have a brand on + yet
- Francine Hardaway
where can I find this list?
- Christopher Harris
THen I must be on the SUL
- Francine Hardaway
I post Madonna's tweets
- Francine Hardaway
hi kids
- Aron Michalski
Hi Aronski
- Francine Hardaway
What a de-motivator distribution seems to be
- Francine Hardaway
Yay - discussion of the Google+ default list - YAY!
- Allen Stern
hey Aron
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi Tina!
- Aron Michalski
I figured it would take 3-6 months for a default list - but they did it even sooner! The problem is that celebs have no desire to interact with normals. Twitter allows them to spread the message with just talking to, here they want you to talk with - that won't work. But what the freak do I know, I don't have 100,000 followers so my thoughts are useless apparently.
- Allen Stern
You are right, Allen
- Francine Hardaway
G+ over-weighting, very astute
- cliveb
Allen: they needed to change their suggestions. Telling me to follow Mark Zuckerberg, who has never posted, is funny but really bad for new users to the service.
- Robert Scoble
hm, Kevin Rose's google plus page is result 2 for 'kevin' now (in an incognito window)
- Kevin Marks
G+ integration with Google Apps
- Ankush Narula
i find google+ a hassle to set-up let alone engage with.
- Gregg
Robert - why in the heck do you think Cashmore and Zee fought to keep his account on google+ - because they needs it for the seo juice.
- Allen Stern
Twiiter still go to communications medium for mois....
- Gregg
G+ for Apps = Chatter
- Ankush Narula
My corp doesn't use Salesforce - we are using G+ though for internal sharing...
- Max Headroom
I saw the ManyMoon team this week - smart bunch
- Kevin Marks
I reall haven't been able to get into Google+ - not sure shy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
http://bit.ly/pn4zc8 is the Schmidt /benioff interview
- Kevin Marks
0.2c Developer community: SFDC attracts older developers, GOOG younger. Late middle still MSFT, Energetic Devs doing consumer web startups
- cliveb
considering how much scoble loves google+, it's odd that this chat is still on ff
- Allen Stern
Tina: because finding people interesting to you is VERY difficult on Google+.
- Robert Scoble
Apple is a business disruptor - not a business partner. Salesforce, Google, etc don't have the same latitude.
- Ankush Narula
Allen: that's because it's hard to embed Google+ in web pages.
- Robert Scoble
and yet - my first time back in months on ff and i can see how much better this still is than google+.
- Allen Stern
tahnks scoble
- Allen Stern
Exactly, Kevin nailed it
- cliveb
yea FriendFeed!
- Gregg
taking over san francisco maybe...
- Kevin Marks
it was a non-story!
- Max Headroom
supposedly it was a fake story
- Ankush Narula
the lost iPhone never turned up. The police say it never happened.
- Michael Markman
Just trying to feed the iPhone 5 vacuum
- Max Headroom
What, no world domination Kevin?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i saw an apple 6 demo unit left on a table in the whole foods near me
- Allen Stern
My Droid just updated to Gingerbread, finally. Maybe that Motorola purchase has legs
- Kevin Marks
Gingerbread? is it a food theme or a fairytail one?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
all the UX changed...
- Kevin Marks
oh and btw - i predict 60 days and google+ will have aggregation too.
- Allen Stern
fun fact; the bit of Moto that makes set top boxes was once an independent company called General Instruments. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO at one point.
- Michael Markman
Kevin - self mute if you can. its better that way if you control
- Tina Chase Gillmor
As long as Android app revenues are lower than iOS app revenues - Android vs iOS comparisons are moot. iOS hardware profits are the bulk of smartphone profits.
- Ankush Narula
I am now, Tina, sorry
- Kevin Marks
the crane is getting further away
- Kevin Marks
Gingerbread, mango, what's up with all the sweet food names? I guess those big Apple cats aren't interested in desserts.
- Alex de Soto
tina, in either case, who is the fox? :)
- Hilary Talbot
no problem Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
coming up: Amazon's Android tablets.
- Michael Markman
"the crane is getting further away" - trademark this!
- cliveb
ah, Markman in da' house. Hello Sir
- Tina Chase Gillmor
i saw box.net in the inc 500
- Allen Stern
Hey, Tina. Hi.
- Michael Markman
Foursquare is delivering new features every 3-4 weeks
- Ankush Narula
foursquare has been on a roll recently
- Kevin Marks
i use foursquare for every check in - what features have they added?
- John Taschek
don't get me wrong either - i like foursquare and use it -- and box too.
- John Taschek
Most recently they added Lists
- Ankush Narula
I'm catching hydration today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Here's more: http://iphone.iusethis.com/app...
- Ankush Narula
Mike Aynrandington
- Ankush Narula
4sq points to using a platform for building momentum faster
- cliveb
Better late than never! Heya all.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hope Arrington invests in Seattle (funding compared to Bay Area sucks)
- cliveb
it was first and quickly being taken over by hackernews, betabeat etc
- Dan Rockwell
minute they got bought by AOL they became a mockery
- Dan Rockwell
the big question is what does calanis think? HA
- Dan Rockwell
don't most of the celebrity posters on HuffPo have similar conflicts?
- Kevin Marks
Listening in the background while babysitting Parker, 9 mos.Just gave him first popsicle. Now needs a bath
- Francine Hardaway
The Arrington VC story reminds me of FOX News giving activists/politicians a platform
- Ankush Narula
btw I seem to be unblocked by Dave Winer. I've started following him again on Twitter
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's cuz he's buddies with your hubby :-)
- Ankush Narula
or wants to be
- Ankush Narula
the value prop is fading, its had its time
- Dan Rockwell
I'm still blocked - after a year :-\
- Ankush Narula
who's got a good source or blog post to recap this discussion about arrington & tech crunch issue.
- Gregg
ahhh... well, Winer has had Steve blocked for years. Not sure about their "buddy" status
- Tina Chase Gillmor
heh - didn't realize that
- Ankush Narula
shame to see mike no longer part of Disrupt, i take thats no longer his baby now
- Dan Rockwell
Did anyone catch a glimse of Steve's GG mug?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
have a happy weekend
- Ankush Narula
a "bad" word? Are there any "bad" wordsreally?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
behind the media editorial curtain.. nice, ok so its a sham, got it, next
- Dan Rockwell
interesting that a salesforce employee who writes at tc was able to be the editor on a contributed post to tc.
- Allen Stern
some of us like it, Steve! :D
- Jerome Hughes
oh, Steve Gillmor made TC switch to Facebook comments?
- Vezquex
Major old journalism v new journalism rant
- Francine Hardaway
They're lucky Arrington didn't leave completely. They probably became part of his fund to keep him.
- Francine Hardaway
Almost every founder I know who sells his company leaves after a year
- Francine Hardaway
Arrington invests in Enterprise Web, not more Consumer Web, plz
- cliveb
+1 Francine.
- Nir Ben Yona
+ tinagillmor Are we selling those mugs to support the podcast?
- Francine Hardaway
meta-journalist
- Michael Markman
Grumpelstiltskins:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Does Robert need more Rackspace background?
- Francine Hardaway
Amazon pad?
- Max Headroom
2 amazon tabs... 7 inch and 10 inch (Android)
- Michael Markman
Mickeleh, you getting one?
- Francine Hardaway
dunno.
- Michael Markman
I predicted this, kinda http://epeus.blogspot.com/2011...
- Kevin Marks
the new Nook beats Kindle in features: touch scfreen, more contrast. ... but I'm locked in: all my books are from Amazon.
- Michael Markman
Francine - no not for support. They are available for fans just for fun!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's already not interesting to listen to.
- Michael Markman
and audible
- Max Headroom
I use Audible exclusively and I sold my Kindle
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - forgotten how to read?
- Max Headroom
Yes, but I'm a great listener Max
- Francine Hardaway
it's the new iOS that's the story. together with iCloud.
- Michael Markman
boy that guys talks fast! ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
bizarre noises galore
- Brian Sullivan
+Francine the lady who made my Rackspace logo is also the one who designed the Twitter Fail Whale. Fun little fact.
- Robert Scoble
isn't that 4 screens? TV, desktop or laptop, tablet, and phone
- Vezquex
bingo... amazon will drive volume on the amazon tablet... attracting apps, selling media. Exactly
- Michael Markman
they're demolishing the set behind me
- Kevin Marks
Why that bloody crane has to beep so much...
- Kevin Marks
Good contribution under duress Mark!
- Max Headroom
ah come on...i want some after show
- Dale Lature
Vezquex: the October stuff won't mention Macs or laptops. I don't think. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Fun fact, indeed
- Francine Hardaway
top half / bottom half - like the strategy opening
- cliveb
oh, ok
- Vezquex
good show people. thanks to ALLLLLLL!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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Laura Norvig, #Robert Redl, Nir Ben Yona and 6 other people liked this
at last, a Friday where I'm not swamped in the afternoon.
- Karoli
Yeehaaawww. What a week!
- Robert Scoble
Waiting for the famous Skype call.
- Robert Scoble
listening in
- Christian Burns
who's on today?
- Dale Lature
aside from Robert and Steve?
- Dale Lature
Scoble, Pocket Cast app had the gillmor feed and downloads the video to my android,
- Christian Burns
geez, Robert. Caught whiffs of the "Scoble turned down 500k" story...you do have your fans and your detractors, don't you? :)
- Karoli
Have yet to play it on the phone yet
- Christian Burns
standby... running a few minutes behind. line up Gang!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Karoli: yeah, I sure do, don't I? In the past week I pissed off some rich and famous people. As it should be. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Slide apps killed, overlaps G+, Max Levchin to exit (more streamlining)
- cliveb
Kevin...r u in the house?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't see anything
- Francine Hardaway
Figure you're doing it right if you get those types aggravated.:)
- Karoli
assembling the Gang... almost locked in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Count me as a friend, Robert. In fact, count everybody here as my friend.
- Francine Hardaway
no Kevin Marks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Cool, we're almost there.
- Robert Scoble
Hi Tina, Gang, and Gangsters.
- Denise Howell
Ah. I saw a lower third come up:-) That's promising
- Francine Hardaway
My two officemates made me turn Fletch back on until you all get your tech together :)
- coldbrew
I'm here at Singularity U
- Kevin Marks
Yay!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
Great to have Searls participate. [Fletch is on pause :)]
- coldbrew
Hi Dave Winer
- Christian Burns
Hello everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Dave!
- Francine Hardaway
Exactly, Doc. It's his life. I am sad because I suspect he's dying or he wouldn't have stepped down
- Francine Hardaway
those pictures on tmz are heartbreaking
- Jamie
Give the guy some peace. Just leave him alone.
- coldbrew
exactly right. The wording of that announcement was ominous.
- Karoli
I just looked at the picture on TMZ.
- Francine Hardaway
Correct, Robert.
- Francine Hardaway
You need to reexamine your principles if you ever let you browser go to TMZ.
- coldbrew
That is appalling.
- coldbrew
It's appalling that they put those up
- Francine Hardaway
yeah
- Jamie
tmz is a click-whore operation. they're going to make money off train-wreck viewers.
- Karoli
I'm more interested in the new apple campus they are building.
- coldbrew
the Apple UFO building
- Kevin Marks
Yes, Jobs recently presented a plan to the Cupertino City Council about the Apple campus. Search yourtube.
- coldbrew
Steve is right the commencement speech was 2005
- Tina Chase Gillmor
he hasn't been the pitchman for over a year anyway.
- Karoli
Karoli: he was at the iPad 2 launch.
- Robert Scoble
ok. hold on...Here you go: youtube.com/watch?v=gtuz5OmOh_M
- coldbrew
the best site to read on Apple history is http://folklore.org
- Kevin Marks
hard to better Steve's Stanford speech
- cliveb
Steve's 2005 beat Oprah's 2007
- cliveb
Kevin: good site - great book
- Ankush Narula
Oh, so right DOC!!!!!!!
- Francine Hardaway
what Jobs is great at is making the mundane into magic.
- Karoli
Hardaway: 6 exclamation points?
- coldbrew
@coldbrew I am given to bouts of wild enthusiasm
- Francine Hardaway
Apple Removes 99-Cent TV Show Rentals from iTunes Store and Apple TV - http://bit.ly/oA8gzI
- Ankush Narula
Colleen: shit happens to people. Not everyone lives to 80s. Another friend's wife died two weeks ago. She was 29.
- Robert Scoble
Hardaway: :)
- coldbrew
oops... i landed in the shot.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@coldbrew Francine sometimes takes cues from her dog Buppy, who wags his tail with seven exclamation points.
- Karoli
HDDs are on their way out for most of us. STX needs to get some SSD tech. Does anyone know if they have that?
- coldbrew
Damn, now I have to get used to Twitter as a TV network. I just got used to ShowMe App
- Francine Hardaway
2007
- Jamie
Doc and his dates today :)
- Jamie
STX has a SSD hybrid laptop drive called Momentus XT
- Ankush Narula
MU, SNDK?
- coldbrew
If you order business class Dell or HP, they are just as good.
- coldbrew
they still run windows, coldbrew
- Kevin Marks
:-) You can make them run whatever you want, depending on what you know.
- coldbrew
"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware." -Alan Kay (we can add services to that)
- Ankush Narula
Kevin we seem to have an audio problem with you. any changes to yur system or setup?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
what about gaming field?
- Contz
bringing you back in
- Tina Chase Gillmor
hard to find Product Guy CEOs who obsess product operating at scale (Jobs, Gates / Maritz)
- cliveb
i switched to new skype
- Kevin Marks
it is gapping fro me
- Kevin Marks
shoudl I go back to old skype
- Kevin Marks
send video kavin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm still one of the crazies thinking that personal servers will rule the roust once everyone understands decentralization and simple server management.
- coldbrew
Like Apple being kind of "too big to fail" - the currency of IT universe?
- #Robert Redl
We can still use load balancers on AWS but our app servers will be on-premise.
- coldbrew
That perception of perfection is what people called Jobs' "reality distortion field," which is an amazing part of his legacy for Apple's brand.
- Tom Guarriello
...and he's been aroound long enoughto set the bar very high
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"Great directors are the ones who don't have to say anything -- you know what I am saying?"
- The Ghost of Library Past
coldbrew, agreed once tacit knowledge becomes the new IP
- cliveb
Let's parrot out of context quotations...
- coldbrew
"When it's ready" is the Apple mantra
- Kevin Marks
Apple will go into printers. http://tinyurl.com/3pmksbm
- The Ghost of Library Past
Steve presents Cupertino Council http://youtu.be/gtuz5Om...
- cliveb
Sometimes I'm scared for Scoble for saying the things he does, but what he says is quite interesting.
- coldbrew
The rationale is psychological..."we have to be in the tablet business...it's growing too fast for us to miss out..." Not sound, but understandable.
- Tom Guarriello
OS protection....The more people use IOS devices, the more irrelevant the others become.
- Karoli
anyone remember the HP iPod?
- Kevin Marks
fast following is easier
- cliveb
yeah the blue ipod
- Ankush Narula
the jailbrake community is quite strong.
- coldbrew
Cliveb: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
"It takes more time to make a fake" but they are all rushing these products
- Mark Vaske
HP had a bigger vision than copying the iPad - webOS was meant to be used across many products and form factors
- Ankush Narula
The iphone was definitely a life saver during my last European trip. Great GPS, awesome camera, amazing communication with friends from all over the world and the Time Out app was brilliant.
- Nir Ben Yona
It hasn't happened because the Android OS doesn't seem to perform consistently across devices
- Ankush Narula
idk about that, apple has the most developers, and they control and make the best hardware...
- Mark Vaske
capacitive touch changed lots of things
- coldbrew
kevin yr audio keeps building up as you are silent can u switch toheadphone?
- Steve Gillmor
multitouch too
- Kevin Marks
I am on headphone. Does this build of skype do AGC?
- Kevin Marks
maybe
- Steve Gillmor
should I switch back to the old skype?
- Kevin Marks
turn off autogain?
- Steve Gillmor
how?
- Kevin Marks
we'll live with it
- Steve Gillmor
Reminds me of the original PalmOS
- Ankush Narula
Ballmer would kick you out and play Queens we are the Champions, or smash a chair if really pissed
- cliveb
App Switching != Multitasking
- Ankush Narula
iOS has very broken multitasking
- Kevin Marks
the onion article is a brilliant poke at hp.
- Mark Vaske
Kevin: I disagree that it's broken - it's "managed multitasking"
- Ankush Narula
nice analogy kevin!
- Mark Vaske
very nice analogy
- Tom Guarriello
The ADHD in me appreciates being forced to stop multitasking.
- Karoli
Kevin's right optimization (Elephants over Bacteria)
- cliveb
with lion, one of the main features is to reduce multitasking with fullscreen mode.
- Mark Vaske
the brain cannot multitask, exactly
- Tom Guarriello
well, that's why you turn off the radio when the driving gets too challenging
- Tom Guarriello
I dont want 8 apps dividing up my ipad screen
- Mark Vaske
very fast serial task switching
- Jerome Hughes
I can listen to this and do email at the same time... Multitasking?
- The Ghost of Library Past
How can I get IOS5?
- Francine Hardaway
Joe - are you focused on both?
- Jerome Hughes
try multitasking - speak all right now at the same time
- #Robert Redl
Francine - become a dev
- Jerome Hughes
to a certain extent...
- The Ghost of Library Past
Moe, we said hi to him at the beginning of the show.
- Robert Scoble
@francine - you have to be in the dev program
- Mark Vaske
Zing! This is hilarious.
- coldbrew
Well, I''m not a dev today, but tomorrow, who knows?
- Francine Hardaway
I can produce the show, switch shots and chat at once! well.... sort of...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes the brain can only do one thing at a time (generally) but the brain does it much faster than a computer. The computer has to be able to multitask in order to keep up with the brain
- Eric de Oude
@francine - I doubt steve g is doing much dev stuff either, but that doesnt mean you cant get in it. Its $100
- Mark Vaske
Multitasking over rated, talking on cell phones, watch drivers
- cliveb
Where is the Android version of the ipod touch?
- coldbrew
I have a feature phone with a low cost carrier, and a ipod touch for voip at home.
- coldbrew
@ Moe hardware speakers arent meant to be awesome...
- Mark Vaske
@Robert - Exactly. External audio is better audio
- Mark Vaske
@coldbrew you are not alone;-)
- cliveb
$900 earbuds - absurd
- Ankush Narula
what's 900 bucks to a guy who turned down 500k?
- Karoli
ding!
- Ankush Narula
I had some UEs... Went back to Shure. Love Shure
- Eric de Oude
A paddleboard
- Kevin Marks
gaga, please, Noooooooooooooooo.
- The Ghost of Library Past
here's a show for you Steve: http://huffduffer.com/kevinma...
- Kevin Marks
Those $900 ear-buds are more of a microspeaker.
- Nir Ben Yona
this is TV right?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My kids: Who watches TV on a television? :)
- Karoli
cliveb: Who do you use for VOIP? I pay $18/ yr for the ph number, and ~$0.008/ min (and $0.03 in expensive places)?
- coldbrew
GoogleTV's a slow go, no fresh content, need real-time channels like the New Hour
- cliveb
really good video from individuals is huge on youtube
- Kevin Marks
did you see the Portal mini-movie?
- Kevin Marks
Apple Closing NYC Retail Stores Ahead of Hurricane Irene - Mac Rumors http://bit.ly/r93aAJ
- Ankush Narula
will Apples privacy issues get better or worse?
- #Robert Redl
Whats next? It's a big black cube-shaped computer that the web was invented on. But that's not important right now.
- Kevin Marks
until news streams live (like Al Jazeera), I'll still have a television
- Karoli
This is my first full Gillmor Gang. Extremely interactive with a Friend Feed comments and video. A great example of how TV changing
- Eric de Oude
I get streaming MSNBC on JustinTV, Karoli
- Francine Hardaway
I went to my housmates side of the house the other night after I drank a 12-pack, then I kicked the TV of the counter. :-)
- coldbrew
Woops.
- coldbrew
weird, Francine...I've tried a couple of times and can't get it for any length of time
- Karoli
nice to bring GoogleTV and G+ together
- cliveb
steve jobs took the mammal approach to hollywood too
- Kevin Marks
There are two sources. They don't stream LockUp
- Francine Hardaway
@robert - does twitter integration stretch farther into tv as it has on iOS and Mac?
- Mark Vaske
gah, gapping
- Kevin Marks
I don't see Apple doing a TV. I see them doing a box that is a lot better than the last box
- Eric de Oude
URL for the Portal Mini-movie? Went to ShowYou and found a zillion portal videos
- Francine Hardaway
Marks: Not sure what you mean by gapping, but stream was fluid here.
- coldbrew
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6Xk
- Kevin Marks
bingo, doc.
- Karoli
thx
- Francine Hardaway
feck, I'm switching back to old skype, as I can only hear you now
- Kevin Marks
Doc is nailing it
- Ankush Narula
iPad TV is personal tv
- Mark Vaske
If only mythTV was easy to deal with (CLI mandatory).
- coldbrew
kevin is gone
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doc always nails it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
called back, but now I can see and not hear. bugger
- Kevin Marks
Apple today removed tv rentals? Streaming?
- Mark Vaske
ok back
- Kevin Marks
send video Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sports, meh
- Kevin Marks
bueno
- Tina Chase Gillmor
though I suppose that works wiht twitter
- Kevin Marks
They need to do more with the Time Capsule. Probably hurt RAX, though.
- coldbrew
Most streamers are much better than the Apple TV. Check out the new Xtreamer Prodigy http://bit.ly/9DTN38
- Nir Ben Yona
"Disapora runs on Time Capsule" would be cool.
- coldbrew
PadFone
- Ankush Narula
Did Steve resign as pitchman for sure?
- Mark Vaske
It's the shiniest thing I've ever seen!!!!!!
- coldbrew
6x! just for Hardawy :-)
- coldbrew
they're all the same size in radians
- Kevin Marks
i've had several streaming devices but the Apple TV device is by far the one that works the best for me.
- Karoli
we will watch TV not with the people on the same couch, but via a "hangout"
- #Robert Redl
Did you see TIVO's earnings? I'll be brief_> awesome. They will be acquired
- coldbrew
Robert: exactly.
- Robert Scoble
coldbrew: nope. Got a URL?
- Robert Scoble
Ignore yesterday.
- The Ghost of Library Past
Did you see AAPL today? http://www.google.com/finance...
- Ankush Narula
"ghosting" like they do on twitter
- #Robert Redl
Ignore will let you cull your incoming feed
- Christian Burns
Louis Gray might have been the one to push for the ignore.
- The Ghost of Library Past
they've been testing the ignore button on people who have odd names like violet blue
- Kevin Marks
"Ignore" is the wrong terminology - they should have made it "Mute" or "Silence"
- Ankush Narula
Scoble: seekingalpha.com/transcripts/for/TIVO
- coldbrew
mute a post, ignore a person
- Christian Burns
you're great Steve
- Christian Burns
Googe's siphoning off Microsoft's best.
- cliveb
Cheers!
- Nir Ben Yona
getting more playing the game instead of just watching it
- Jerome Hughes
this has been a really good show
- Dale Lature
Sorry I only caught the end of this, stuck in Honolulu airport. Mahalo, Aloha over and out :) Will have to watch the recording...sounds like it was great.
- Charlie Isaacs
excellent Gang. Glad I caught it live
- Tom Guarriello
Ankush: yeah, AAPL is cheap at 11 times earnings.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still vibrating (idea wise, and writing things down) as I listen to this
- Dale Lature
Great Gang guys, keep listening to the future.
- Denise Howell
Steve, JP will be on?
- cliveb
Great show. so nice to be able to view it in real time. :)
- Karoli
Thanks! Cya all next time.
- Nir Ben Yona
Thanks! Informative, and thought provoking.
- Eric de Oude
Great show
- Francine Hardaway
from iPhone
the sing u stuff is great
- Kevin Marks
thanks everyone....you're all really great and I smiled a few times.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
First time sitting down to listen/watch this & really enjoyed it.
- Ian Murphy
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Waiting for the call!
- Robert Scoble
me too
- Kevin Marks
we're gonna start in a minute. waiting on a Scoble re-start
- Tina Chase Gillmor
please tweet the show announcement for others to join
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Getting enough tissue ready to weep with the masses over WebOS
- Jerry Schuman
while we're waiting ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Just want to say I predicted WebOS was DOA even before it went to HP
- Jerry Schuman
thought it was a 'heavy metal' effect
- Jerome Hughes
I don't think it's fair to write off WebOS yet. Most of the northern hemisphere is on vacation.
- coldbrew
I'm also chatting here: https://plus.google.com/1110910... for those who would rather do Google+. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
wow John - you're not blurry and low-res anymore!
- Ankush Narula
Scoble: You are two-timing us?
- coldbrew
WebOS jinxed, Touch it, lose $1.2Bn
- cliveb
coldbrew: yes. :-) I'm using FriendFeed 1.0 AND 2.0.
- Robert Scoble
:)
- coldbrew
WebOS IS dead, I think. :(
- Kevin Costain
HP has not sold anything yet. It seems the CEO put all the options on the table. I can link to some techtarget article from today that was actually good, if you are interested.
- coldbrew
can't seem to keep Seth's feed up. Think he's having signal problems on his end
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google adding 3rd Seattle location nr MSFT campus http://bit.ly/onPBh5
- cliveb
HP Autonomy featuring Dr. Dre's Beatz
- Ankush Narula
Businesses need printers :)
- Kevin Costain
From some chatter on hackernews from former employees and consultants of Autonomy, it sounds like more of an enterprise sales org, rather than engineering and technology.
- coldbrew
for how long have we heard... who cares about Apple, they've only got x% of the unit shipment market share for computers?
- Jerome Hughes
Jerome: and they make almost all the profits.
- Robert Scoble
Is it a question of hardware vs. software or enterprise vs. consumer?
- coldbrew
just tuning in! hi guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
hi everyone, late again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
hello, Beebe.
- coldbrew
Hey there Moe :)
- Susan Beebe
Maybe the should co-brand webOS with Lil Wayne?
- Ankush Narula
WebOS has nodejs support built in, shame.
- cliveb
:-)
- coldbrew
the HP I have here has an intermittent headphone socket after a month
- Kevin Marks
hey @coldbrew :)
- Susan Beebe
Great
- Harold Carey
What?! who doesn't need page views?! :P
- Susan Beebe
scoble doesn't
- Kevin Marks
stop linking to him
- Kevin Marks
exactly :)
- Susan Beebe
WebOS can join Newton in device heaven. Name a single platform that has risen from its former ashes by a new owner after the brain trust left.
- Jerry Schuman
Oh goody, I am not the only one getting spam on Google+ ... augh
- Susan Beebe
Firefox, Jerry
- Kevin Marks
So is Steve upset that he's getting +mentioned on G+?
- Ankush Narula
script kiddies, Steve
- Jerry Schuman
everyone start posting kitty videos :) meow
- Charlie Isaacs
I think Steve is talking about random people on G+ who send you posts (not just mentions)... those posts wind up being like a DM.
- Susan Beebe
BINGO! same spam i am getting on G+
- Susan Beebe
I don't understand what random posts he's seeing - I don't see anything like that - only people in my Circles
- Ankush Narula
Firefox filled a need based on a sub par platform called IE. No such need exists in the tablet place Kevin.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert - people I do NOT follow are sending me crap that loads up my notifications!!
- Susan Beebe
I may have to do that too: Turn off email and then create a gmail filter to delete noise
- Susan Beebe
quiet chat today.... why?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Everyone's on vacation.
- coldbrew
About 10% of the shares I get this way are useful/relevant; 90% not. I have a stock message I share w/ people in the 90% column, that asks them nicely to stop. Most say "sure," and I don't hear from them again.
- Denise Howell
Oh Steve.... You are missing out. Seems like you are just not giving it a chance, especially if you aren't even posting....
- Ben Hanten
I am troubleshooting a Facebook problem :-o
- Charlie Isaacs
@Tina - great question!!
- Susan Beebe
Scoble loves noise :P
- Susan Beebe
are they trying to send you things for the show, denise?
- Kevin Marks
he loves what he finds in that noise
- Jerome Hughes
interested to hear your thoughts on the patent bubble Denise
- Kevin Marks
Robert is going to camp out again in line hahahhah :D
- Susan Beebe
agreed that the line can be fun
- Kevin A. Burton
Isn't this the 5th year? Like, in a row?
- coldbrew
Kevin - I just +mentioned you on G+ // I know you're not following me - can you see it in your stream?
- Ankush Narula
One cannot be surprised.
- coldbrew
+Kevin The 10% are, so I'm glad they can and do. The 90% are just sending random things.
- Denise Howell
no, but it is in notifications. Thanks Ankush for clearing that up
- Kevin Marks
but if you post to JUST me, what happens
- Kevin Marks
heh - no new information here (re:FriendFeed) - that's the problem - not the solution
- David Ashwood
ah, that was just me so it is in notifications only. thanks
- Kevin Marks
@Kevin - notification + email
- Susan Beebe
Does G+ Sparks have any filters ie chronological? I havent found any.
- Hilary Talbot
If there's beer involved I'll tailgate for anything...
- coldbrew
Right... I posted just to you
- Ankush Narula
Sparks seem very immature and limited right now... odd
- Susan Beebe
@Coldbrew - tailgate - nice analogy!
- Susan Beebe
thats my impression, too, susan.
- Hilary Talbot
oh somehow my comments were not updating....now I see an active chat
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the web is open - content is closed
- Ankush Narula
Beebe, thanks. I spend 5 days a year waiting for the Telluride Bluegrass Festival to start, every year :-)
- coldbrew
The dubstep rooms are always jam packed
- Jerry Schuman
there's a poetry room
- Kevin Marks
Aside from the handpicked, human-passion-driven curation, there are no commercials (right?). But that can't last.
- Denise Howell
I was thinking about a "Best of Gillmor Gang Outakes" room
- Jerry Schuman
haha
- Susan Beebe
Some fellow Coloradan's also just won the National Poetry Slam: http://www.cpr.org/article...
- coldbrew
And not in Canada either.
- Bruce Segal
well, if Seth can sell enough music through referrals, maybe it can last
- Kevin Marks
http://console.fm was the one...
- Kevin Marks
Marks: I think appeasing label execs with data will be more difficult, no?
- coldbrew
when are these services going to work without Flash player? (ed)
- Ankush Narula
eh? Ankush? You mean 'without flash' ?
- Kevin Marks
rule of thumb in US retail, room for three big players in each product category. “Good, better, and best”
- cliveb
yes
- Ankush Narula
Thanks Kevin, I forgot about that site
- Bruce Segal
haha.... it started with the advent of the BBS
- Jerry Schuman
I'm not exactly clear on how turntable is maneuvering around IP law, and such. Anyone care to explain?
- coldbrew
Ham Radio, before BBS :)
- Charlie Isaacs
they're using the DMCA exemption that Pandora uses, which is very fiddly
- Kevin Marks
smoke signals before ham radio
- Ankush Narula
Ok. So, safe harbor?
- coldbrew
I prefer pidgeons and usenet, personally.
- coldbrew
with tt, you're sharing another activity while conversing about it
- Jerome Hughes
the listener can't know what is coming up, or hear more than 3 songs by the same artist per hour on a channel, plus reporting rules etc. If those are all satisfied, there is a statutory rate of something like a tenth of a cent per song per listener. Right Denise?
- Kevin Marks
“Good, better, and best” - WinPad, DroidPad, iPad. (FB, Twitter, G+)
- cliveb
They are also a MediaNet client.
- Jerry Schuman
For example, Adam Bosworth is on G Plus: https://plus.google.com/1148568...
- Alex de Soto
Good info. Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Scoble - we're not your friends on G+ ?! hey now... ... tisk tisk! :P
- Susan Beebe
I like Scoble's wife's method :)
- coldbrew
I wish my wife would do that before she bought something, wait for me to check it out for a year :)
- Charlie Isaacs
im not super interested in Plus yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Glitz: If I got to buy it and install it on my machine? Yes.
- coldbrew
Not G+ adding Scobleizer or Zuck (don't want my stream swamped)
- cliveb
Check out this chart from NYT... feel bad for any tablet not IOS https://images1-focus-opensoci...
- Jerry Schuman
is youtube in hangouts somewhat like the group experience in tt though for a smaller group?
- Jerome Hughes
Steve: invite @EdChi (Norvig's G+ HCI) to guest on GG
- cliveb
oops.. bad URL
- Jerry Schuman
it's a hang-in
- Jerome Hughes
Never say never Steve! :)
- Susan Beebe
Biggest problem with Google+ - API isn't generally available - as such all innovation happens in the Google Walled Garden.
- David Ashwood
FB Messages unifies e-mail, IM, SMS, and proprietary FB messaging - pretty smart. Wait until they integrate that with Skype
- Ankush Narula
twitter still dosent know how to make money
- Abhijeet Desai
Twitter is gaining 20 million spam accounts per month
- Ankush Narula
making money is overvalued ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
google dosent need to make money with plus cos plus makes search better & search makes a lot of money
- Abhijeet Desai
I created 5 Twitter handles in the last 24 hours, mainly for testing
- Charlie Isaacs
may be in nokia dominated countries like india. windows phone 7 can make some impact if any
- Abhijeet Desai
John has a cute little silver box hanging over his head. like a video game. What happens when you smash it ?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
"the cream, the cream, it's on the shelf"
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks to BBM, iMessage, Disco/Huddle, FB Messages - the fragmentation will keep SMS winning - and AT&T will be happy to charge you up the butt for it
- Ankush Narula
More than teens - I see Blackberries everywhere in NYC
- Ankush Narula
Exactly! Turntable knows an API helps make the community
- David Ashwood
a turntable listen+chat app on phones would be great
- Kevin Marks
Moe: I disagree. Most teens I know like iPhone or iPod touch better.
- Robert Scoble
depends on which dead you mean
- Jerome Hughes
and kodak?
- Jerome Hughes
"Good, better, best” {Android, WP, iOS} Low cost, best tools, premium.
- cliveb
Robert: I agree with Moe - teens have no trouble carrying a Blackberry and iPod Touch
- Ankush Narula
Moto will be NFC for consumers & merchants & to push the Android hardware to the next gen
- David Ashwood
Ashwood: Are you suggesting Motorola Solutions (aka Symbol/ not Mobility) is going to help bring a POS to market with NFC capability?
- coldbrew
Patents???
- Ankush Narula
Interesting breaking: Apple seeking injunction against most Samsung Android phones and tablets zd.net/qrOrti
- Charlie Isaacs
Yep
- David Ashwood
Nice. Sounds interesting to me.
- coldbrew
Ankush: and Photobucket's CEO says Android is growing like a week. iOS is growing healthily. RIM? Headed down in usage. I don't see any way it gets out of this death spiral.
- Robert Scoble
It's what will bring Google wallet to the masses. NFC is a great idea - but it takes an age for the hardware to catch up. Moto shortcuts that problem
- David Ashwood
Maybe we will see a Vivotech acquisition.
- coldbrew
Exactly - carriers are one of the prime lags ;)
- David Ashwood
Robert: pretend most people don't run apps on their Blackberries - they use e-mail, SMS, BBM, web and maybe a few choice apps
- Ankush Narula
Carriers will be the backbone of wifi - virtual wifi providers like Fon will spring up - but carriers are still trying to understand what that means. Remember they don't want to be just a pipe
- David Ashwood
50% globally is Android at the mo
- David Ashwood
will they get the profit?
- Jerome Hughes
They should rename Netflix to MadMenTV just for Steve ;-)
- Ankush Narula
What's the content lockin on iCloud?
- David Ashwood
the iCloud storage goes away if you stop paying
- Kevin Marks
iCloud replaces Dropbox - where's the multi-user collaborative stuff - and the server-side apps?
- Ankush Narula
Aye Kevin - but from an App provider/integration perspective - could you put the same content on iCloud and iGoogle?
- David Ashwood
a great thing that didn't survive... Sunday Night... http://www.metafilter.com/64744...
- Jerome Hughes
I've been watching season one of MadMen
- Kevin Marks
and misunderstood at 1st as was the iPod
- Jerome Hughes
"I much prefer your earlier work"
- Jerome Hughes
these aren't failures, they are steps forward to the ultimate goal(s)
- Charlie Isaacs
GoogleTV aint slacken, something brewing for October
- cliveb
The cable companies have quite a bit of say on the software for set-tops.
- coldbrew
and to get the gamerz to differentiate
- Jerome Hughes
Has anyone heard anything about Boxee in a while?
- coldbrew
Get Laid or Get Paid. Sweet!
- cliveb
Moe1
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Whose making the Blackberry Enterprise Server replacement?
- coldbrew
that's Exchange currently, no?
- Jerome Hughes
It integrates with exchange, but there's also a separate PKI implementation.
- coldbrew
Airplay will end up more like http://oblong.com
- Kevin Marks
Google Music, lost at sea.
- cliveb
and his new beard
- Kevin Marks
Thanks, folks.
- coldbrew
Wishing I could go to DreamForce (had a ticket) just toooo dang busy! :) have fun!!
- Susan Beebe
thanks guys:
- Susan Beebe
thanks
- Charlie Isaacs
will attend DreamForce live stream.
- cliveb
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Waiting for the famous call. I hear John Borthwick (a Venture Capitalist from UK) will be on the call today along with most of the usual suspects.
- Robert Scoble
ok then.
- Aron Michalski
:-) Of course we're also testing out the new Skype, which is causing problems.
- Robert Scoble
stand by
- Steve Gillmor
Hey Aron, Robert. Getting a rare chance to listen live.
- Amyloo
hi there. been a while!
- Aron Michalski
Hey everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Aron. Hope your weekend is treating you well.
- Nir Ben Yona
Aron, yup, not everybody has wild-ass jobs like you! Most are more regular and mundane. Hi Nir.
- Amyloo
Hi Amyloo ;)
- Nir Ben Yona
ah, I'm kinda rocking out to spotify ... guess I'll turn that down now.
- Laura Norvig
amazing that spottily isn't available in Canada, but not surprised either
- Michael Roberts
hi, all!
- Jerome Hughes
hey j
- Amyloo
hi a - it's good to be half back
- Jerome Hughes
A half back? Like a tail back?
- Aron Michalski
yes, but at the laundry
- Jerome Hughes
like adding yourself into a list vs. leaving yourself out, provides frame of reference of flow in time
- Jerome Hughes
Is this interesting for those who get about 5 responses a week on Twitter?
- Aron Michalski
Scoble, you see the profile icons in Google Chrome 15?
- Vezquex
It's nice to know when someone is following you.. other clients do this..
- Kevin Costain
if you follow those who interact
- Jerome Hughes
I wonder...
- Aron Michalski
I guess I'm gonna go out and work on tweeting something worth responding to...
- Aron Michalski
gesture bleed from service to service, have been seeing some such things on #FB for a long time "x and x are now friends" though possibly more privately
- Jerome Hughes
Showyou is interesting...
- Aron Michalski
Showyou really rocks!
- Nir Ben Yona
will make thumbnail more important
- Jerome Hughes
sorry JohnTaschek -I dont know why I lost #4 but I did and cant fix the problem
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gotta figure out where that scrape occurs...
- Aron Michalski
Tina -- I think xfinity was jealous of my 4G speeds and something was lost. I'll be lurking here on FF.
- John Taschek
BBM; Anarchy in the UK song in new ad...
- Aron Michalski
False. Teens love the apps, which you can only get on iOS or Android.
- Vezquex
It's all about control, no?
- Kevin Costain
BBM network is fast, realtime and avoids the cloud.
- Aron Michalski
http://action.openrightsgroup.org/ea-acti... petition against twitter blocking
- Kevin Marks
For many years it was the absolute best way to communicate in realtime internationally without additional charges.
- Aron Michalski
So crazy to be frightened of the medium. Was it Doc Searls who talked about the silliness of considering monetizing your front porch? Same thing. Blame the front porch if someone is conspiring on it.
- Amyloo
they will create chaos here if they cut communications off when they think they should. what?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
An API for Google Maps that shows zombies where the riots are occurring?
- Aron Michalski
is Blackberry going to further lose business users by association with rioters?
- Kevin Marks
iPod Touch for Christmas.
- Vezquex
Have fun, missing the gang, have company over today.
- Christian Burns
from Android
The first thing they used to do in a coup was close the newspapers and seize the TV stations.
- Aron Michalski
The revolution will not be televised?
- Vezquex
exactly - sieze the central control
- Kevin Marks
no, but it will be streamed live!
- Laura Norvig
RIM could work the anti-establishment angle for marketshare ;-)
- Aron Michalski
But now if you close the cell network, the info is delayed and the realtime nature avoids the momentum.
- Aron Michalski
your quote information has been delayed by 20 minutes
- Jerome Hughes
so you set up cell scramblers for the mob frequency, the fuzz uses the upper freqs.
- Aron Michalski
Then, as is being mentioned, triangulate and use the cell phones as homing beacons.
- Aron Michalski
that's a scary thought, aron. we're lambs.
- Amyloo
they don't need to install chips under our skin; we're holding them to the sides of our heads.
- Aron Michalski
Burner phones and limited connectivity is the safest wat to use the service.
- Aron Michalski
our addiction is their greatest ability to track us, if they're cops, advertisers or data miners.
- Aron Michalski
We freely give our preferences and location for STICKERS. They get a bit more.
- Aron Michalski
you have to have the input to filter the output
- Jerome Hughes
Noise control is only important to those who actually listen.
- Aron Michalski
https://plus.google.com/notific... lets you filter
- Kevin Marks
I just realized Robert has been talking about filtering for years. I think he's a closet librarian.
- Laura Norvig
aaah, here's the class argument. You want to mine my data Scoble? I guess I'll have to become more popular.
- Aron Michalski
:-)
- Robert Scoble
Klout shout give points for shutting up. Our fearless leader often says that what is not said can be more important.
- Aron Michalski
Robert only cares about filtering because he has a million friends. Under 1000, who cares?
- Vezquex
Scoble is a hoarder. It's an interesting realm to be in, data hoarding but it's not for everyone. Or for that matter, most any individual other than Scoble.
- Aron Michalski
surely K counts babbling against you, etc.
- Jerome Hughes
not you specifically, Aron :D
- Jerome Hughes
He doesn't have access to my stream, as he stated a while back that he doesn't care. He lost my vote and access to my data.
- Aron Michalski
I don't look at his either. One less filter needed.
- Aron Michalski
Trying to decipher what Steve just said about Google Search and Twitter.
- Darren
More people does not equal more interesting!!!
- Aron Michalski
More interesting people equals more engagement.
- Aron Michalski
if you built NYC from scratch it would be like Brasilia
- Kevin Marks
If you built NYC from scratch again it would suck and not be NYC.
- Aron Michalski
Twitter hasn't evolved organically in over 2 years. If they were, they wouldn't have moved against the developer community that made them such a success story.
- Darren
+1 Darren
- Aron Michalski
+2 Darren
- Nir Ben Yona
Jack on, Jack off.
- Aron Michalski
and now that they have a reason to... let a few drops out of the pipeline
- Jerome Hughes
HE SAID "TRACK!" Take a drink.
- Vezquex
Anytime he says Track I inject a cocktail of valarian root and Cymbalta into my neck.
- Aron Michalski
…, Synthesize, Harmonize… http://www.pbs.org/idealab...
- Jerome Hughes
shock absorber
- Jerome Hughes
2 words: Games + Hangouts
- Darren
Hence the hoods.
- Aron Michalski
with enough funding
- Jerome Hughes
Imagine; parenting.
- Aron Michalski
yup. Ever look at your Picasa account and its facial stuff?
- Aron Michalski
ding ding ding
- Darren
G+
- Darren
John T... can you hop on now?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
or a basket gets woven
- Jerome Hughes
aaaaaaand the instant upload. Before you know they have it, they have it.
- Aron Michalski
Scoble, it's less about owning your own data and more about being able to personalize your experience.
- Darren
No chance for Heello unless they manage to penetrate the Chinese market or so.
- Nir Ben Yona
Putting back on my decoder ring.
- Darren
Flipboard: The full page ads included in the articles...
- Aron Michalski
which is little compared to its relations to other such items and their originators / consumers
- Jerome Hughes
that's Dave Winer
- Kevin Marks
send back a dm advising to reset password, most respond apologizing
- Jerome Hughes
DM? From people you don't know? Hmmm.
- Aron Michalski
drop your applications and change your password it should go away - some are from those you "sort of" know
- Jerome Hughes
well, scoble follows a lto fo people he doesn't know
- Kevin Marks
No different than any message on Facebook "I can't believe I can see who's looking at my profile".
- Darren
it's from people you follow
- Kevin Marks
"Did you really say this about me? one of your followers sent me this"
- Jerome Hughes
"One of my followers is saying really bad things about you heres the profile"
- Jerome Hughes
I guess it's a disadvantage to those with tens of thousands of people in their circle.
- Aron Michalski
Steve, they've provided 80% of what they're offering in the streaming APIs for the last 2 years.
- Darren
or 5k they manage - interesting how many turn out to be actual and hoodwinked instead of calculating
- Jerome Hughes
oh the irony.
- Aron Michalski
should say "Spending" event.
- Aron Michalski
or optimization, finding what matters
- Jerome Hughes
kind of like using a firehose as a Waterpik.
- Aron Michalski
parts per million -> trillion
- Jerome Hughes
I'm thinking about joining a photo sharing service where I only follow VCs who share food photos. Imagine what I could learn then!
- Aron Michalski
if there were another service's flow, perhaps
- Jerome Hughes
I want photos of rich people's food...
- Aron Michalski
smell-o-vision
- Jerome Hughes
...with a filter for brussel sprouts.
- Aron Michalski
I'll never miss a rare steak again...
- Aron Michalski
that was one thing I did this week, I patched nanoTweeter so it worked agin
- Kevin Marks
"I don't care about that". Yup, social is the wrong word for some people.
- Aron Michalski
Try talking to one person about one thing that actually matters.
- Aron Michalski
valuable workarounds
- Jerome Hughes
I just realized how utterly and completely fraught with jargon these weekly talks are. I live in two worlds. Most of my friends would be sure this is a different language.
- Laura Norvig
when is the google plus api coming?
- Michael Roberts
Thanks Kevin.
- Aron Michalski
they didn't say yet
- Kevin Marks
Thanks. Cya next time!
- Nir Ben Yona
thanks Tina, thanks everyone!
- Aron Michalski
great show!
- Michael Roberts
thanks, all
- Jerome Hughes
thanks to everyone. can't say enough how much we love and enjoy the chat and how much it adds to the show.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
be neat to have a post-Gillmor Gang - google plus hangout
- Michael Roberts
I'm glad to bring the bitterness and hold the brussel sprouts.
- Aron Michalski
anyone is free to create a hangout -
- Tina Chase Gillmor
this is the one hour a week I'm allowed to slack off...back to the grindstone...
- Aron Michalski
BTW Tina, they pushed us back to Wednesday next week. But' I should be there until Sept 10th or so.
- Aron Michalski
looking forward to it Aron
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Moe - I never left. I think the conversation left me -- but it was in great hands with the Danny and Robert discussion.
- John Taschek
Social Broadcast Network - http://techcrunch.com/2011...
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Google+ is not on this list, yet. Mostly because I haven't got a handle on its core value as a news trigger. If you're Scoble, the value is obvious as he is now demonstrating by turning it into his blog. But sooner or later the service will have to decide what it wants to be when it grows up — a conversation hub with no tools for rapid synthesis of knowledge, a social graph to challenge Twitter (it's getting there fast), or some other thing perhaps more substantial than currently appreciated, like a stalking horse for YouTube live streaming aka the social broadcast network.
- Steve Gillmor
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