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[SteroidFeed]: Here is my new way of watching feeds on FriendFeed. I call it SteroidFeed but it is also a "Multi-Talk" style interface ... the file sits locally and allows me to view multiple topics. I've attached a copy of the simple html. Feel free to modify the html but please leave attribution and share your changes. Leave a URL if on Internet.
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Dan Morrill AKA Techwag, Tommy Keene, Mike VanLare (slayerboy) and 52 other people liked this
Of course, the version I uploaded does not include my own entries but instead has the iPhone entry as an example. My local copy uses "from:lph" so I can see my entries and add comments quickly. (e.g., this comment is added through steroidfeed.html and not through the site.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
If Adrian Veidt had FriendFeed instead of just satellite TV, this is totally how he would have read it.
- Andrew C
There is a danger, Chrome has trouble with this many connections to FF.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I borrowed it here, LPH. http://friendfeed.com/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
I've changed this file a bit so that a fourth column is available, and this holds a rowspan of my own entries. This makes tracking easier.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
I should state that the fourth column is an embed so that I can add comments, photos, files, etc. - That code is similar to the one on my personal blog: http://www.layneheiny.com
- LPH™ and his dog P™
SteroidFeed 1.01 is now available: http://friendfeed.com/lph...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Really cool!
- matiasjajaja
hey i like this!
- Susan Beebe
Have fun Susan
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via iPhone
The Most Incredible Collaborative Music Video You Will Have Ever Seen. http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Greg Santos, Graphic Identity Blog, Jack Frizzell and 37 other people liked this
must watch. genuinely.
- Zee.
Yeah, this is incredible.
- Robert Scoble
see that guys? you got Scoble's seal of approval...now go watch! :)
- Zee.
Clever stuff
- Simon Wicks
Now that's collaboration! Very cool, creative use of simple technology to create a complex end product.
- Larry Hawes
That is a very cool video. And cool they used their fans for it.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
I want to see how they did this.
- Morgan Collins
via BuddyFeed
Amazing creativity! and what a wonderful message of UNITY! Love it :)
- Aline Ohannessian
that's amore;)
- Patrizia Filippetti
That is really awesome. I don't care for the song, but the concept and execution is wonderful.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Absolutely wonderful.
- Jim Carter
Wow. Just shows what is possible in this age
- Jamie Craig
via Alert Thingy
I am so buying stock in Asus. They continue to impress me with each new model they release. 1005HA is a killer netbook. Can't wait for the next gen which will hopefully pair the N280 Atom chip with the nVidia Ion. Can't wait for DVI support.
LPH™ and his dog P™, J. Abdul-Qahhar, Jeff Douglass and 8 other people liked this
how does it compare to the 1000HE?
- Alfredo
@Alfredo - I have 3 of the 1000HE models. Main difference: full size right shift key, bigger battery (10.5 hours supposedly), and it's a lot slimmer and sleeker than the HE,
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
One more big diff - the multi-touch mouse pad and key are pretty much built into the shell now. Single mouse button.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
They also changed the hinge design and moved away from the circular hinges and replaced with a more recessed design.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
how much is the 1005HA?
- Alfredo
$389 at Amazon
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I'll be using this one to stream the fireworks over Lake Union on Saturday.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wow. The touchpad is like nothing I've ever used. It's got tiny bumps on it. Going through XP setup now....
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
The screen seems a lot brighter and crisper too as compared to the 1000HE
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another difference - the power input is on the left side as is the VGA out, single USB, and laptop lock.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Another diff: There are only 2 buttons above the row of function keys - one for power (on the right) and one the interestingly enough - turns the touchpad on/off.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
did you upgrade to a 2GB stick?
- Alfredo
Yes Alfredo. 2GB
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
waiting for ion here also...
- Adi Rabinovich
If I cop a 1005HA, can I swap the 2gb stick I put in my 900 into it?
- Richard Lawler
Here's their chart on Google Finance http://www.google.com/finance...
- Alex Scoble
Hmmm. Looking at their historical numbers, seems pretty flat Alex. I'm into real estate, not stock, so I wouldn't know the first thing about how to really assess their performance / potential.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@Richard - I think you should be able to. I swapped one of mine from my 1000HE just now. As long as it's 200 pin DDR2 RAM, you should be all set.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Click-dragging is going to take some getting used to with the new single mouse button.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
New features in FF and Twitter (Scripting News). http://www.scripting.com/stories...
romanzolotarev, Svartling, Milton Ramirez and 10 other people liked this
Dave misses that FriendFeed search can be constrained by groups of people YOU pick. This is the real "track" that Steve Gillmor keeps talking about. Oh, and by the way, my blog items (via RSS) get into FriendFeed within 60 seconds. Anyone figure out how I do that?
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Dave, though. Real Time search raises more questions than it answers and FriendFeed's UI has too much duplication and not enough tools to help you manage it. Until that happens it's going to be as geeky as a command line interface. Lots of people will use it, yes, but there's something better out there and the minute a company figures it out we'll go "of course" just like we did when we saw the Mac UI.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, when is your flight?
- Dave Winer
Tonight at 7.
- Robert Scoble
It's *really* nice to see the Frontier community get proper credit for its pioneering role in developing weblogs. http://tawawa.org/ark...
Paolo Valdemarin, Michael J. Cohen (mjc) and Robert Scoble liked this
Billions stolen in online robbery - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2...
Tapio Kulmala, J. D. Ebberly and Robert Scoble liked this
Seesmic changes direction and Loic Le Meur gives a brutally honest assessment (video) <-- must watch if you're into seesmic, a techie or web entrepreneur - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Craig [deakaz], Josh Asbury, Roman and 52 other people liked this
Definitely the right move. I look forward to seeing the new site as well as the iPhone app when they release it. I know it's more of the norm in web/tech companies but it's really refreshing to have people who run companies and make business decisions communicate those directly to the user base instead of through some PR person.
- Mike Bracco
THIS is what a Company Leader should be willing to do! Bravo!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
if only Loic could refrain from shooting videos of himself and, instead, merely post what he has to say. His accent is unbearable (no improvement since he moved to the bay area) and obviously (but will he ever?) not prepared hence a poor delivery.
- lelapin
i don't think the accents too bad really - heck, its a french accent...not much can be done there
- Zee.
Yeah I must admit his accent has gotten me once or twice. But I quite enjoy it.. Does everyone have to sound the same all the time? On the video, I must say I like his decision and the passion he shows for that decision. Looks like it was tough but he did it.. Kudos
- Rasmus Lauridsen
@lelapin His accent is not CA-based, obviously, but Loic speaks with his heart, not reading a PR. You may see it as not prepared where others would just see genuine sincerity.
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
accent? hey he's french, the things is what he says not how he says. good luck @loic
- alex
Perhaps he should have just given it in French - I love speaking French - It's a lot nicer language to listen to when compared to English. And @Loic, about your accent - never try to loose it.
- Robert Freeze
Yeah I can clearly understand what Loic is saying so I'm fine with his accent. Regarding the actual message, I'm thinking that this is a smart move as well. Starting to build community from ground up and bringing videos back later might be something what we read later from web business related books as an example. Well.. at least if he succeeds.
- Petteri
I remember writing that this wasn't going to work when Scoble et al were singing Seesmic's praises. Geeks often call me an idiot (like when I predicted the Kindle would do well), but I'm usually proven right in the end. This is the problem with Silicon Valley, IMO. Too many of you guys create only for yourselves, expecting the wider world to think and behave like you do.
- Dawn
i guess i'd give more props if they hadn't raised TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS... loic's a fine leader and all, but there's just something amiss with the amount raised and the lack of success on the investment. then again, maybe this'll get them where they need to be... ?
- Jeremy Toeman
i support loic and this move, you people need to be less focused on the funding here.
- sean percival
good for you. you people need to stop lumping us people in with each other.
- Jeremy Toeman
i say that not just to these comments, sorry, but to comments left all over the place on this news.
- sean percival
but maybe some of us feel it is extremely relevant... are we not entitled to feel that way?
- Jeremy Toeman
Wow... I can understand. That has to be tough, but necessary.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Must be a hard move for Loic, but its the right one if there is no growth in video, you can't build and maintain a company based on it. I wish him and his company the best.
- Kim Landwehr
To be able to openly admit your product and direction needs re-thinking is admirable. Frankly, I thought he was a brown-nosing walking cluster of fluff, but this makes me see him in a completely new light. Best wishes to Loic and Seesmic.
- Mona Nomura
He's making the decision that is necessary for the company to move on. Why is he doing that? Hes doing it to protect amongst other things those "TWELVE MILLION DOLLARS" that have been invested. Most companies don't start out making the products that they end up finding competitive advantage in. A good leader is not afraid to take a company in a new direction when it is needed. It looks...
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- Rasmus Lauridsen
@loic Hard move! but the best choice these days; you've got all my support big guy (if needed) ; )
- ledretch
lelapin, maybe we could find you a board titled "really great accents that know nothing about business" you would feel more intelligent commenting on. I am sure Andy Grove had an unbearable accent when he arrived here but thankfully he did not take his accent and his company back to Europe early in the game. I think that to highlight someone's accent and miss the business lesson is the...
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- Chad Harris
I agree. This is the right move for seesmic, and I am happy that it was announced in this fashion. Leaving stuff like this to PR people or some random web site announcement wouldn't have nearly the same impact. With that said, what a great use for video....
- Josh Asbury
Micah Wittman to Micah's feed, FriendFeed Hacks, FriendFeed Talk, Robert Scoble, Jason Huebel, Rochelle
friendfeedTranslate user script - Translates title and comments of a friendfeed entry (e.g. Farsi to English) - http://wittman.org/friendf...
Svartling, Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), David Bausola and 57 other people liked this
In the Configuration section of the code, you can change the language From and language To settings. When viewing a single friendfeed entry, near the upper right corner by "Tools", the the link to perform the translation will appear (e.g. Translate Farsi to English). Tested/compatible with Firefox and Safari.
- Micah Wittman
Featured image: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Micah Wittman
cool idea :)
- Susan Beebe
The script utilizes the google translation api, of course.
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Susan.
- Micah Wittman
friendfeedTranslate 's permanent home is here http://wittman.org/project... (where previous versions will be archived).
- Micah Wittman
yay! I've been asking about this for a few weeks. I will use firefox for FF for a while so I can use all of your scripts. edit: I usually use chrome
- metalerik
Well done Micah! Installing and taking it for a spin now. Thank you.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@micah Just wanted to let you know that the permanent home site is giving the "The site's security certificate is not trusted!" message in Chrome 3.0.189.0
- metalerik
metalerik, thanks for letting me know. I removed the secure protocol in the above link - it got there by mistake. I only pay the piper for one signed SSL certificate, and it's on a different domain, so that's why you got the warning.
- Micah Wittman
Thank you, Brian. Let me know how you fare with it.
- Micah Wittman
Here's a recent post about people wanting a language filter where I wish for a translation button (did I mention yay!) http://friendfeed.com/friendf... I just went back there to link to this post. Hope that's cool.
- metalerik
Thanks, Micah, Awesome of you to invest the time to enable this. I am personally appreciative and I have friends that will also be, I am quite sure. :) I hope to eventually share the messages I have received as a result of signalling others efforts.
- Eric Logan
Eric, your words are very much appreciated, Eric. I hope this helps people understand each other, even if only just a tad more.
- Micah Wittman
Micah sorry to be gushing but I think this is huge. I mean really huge.
- metalerik
are you not seeing the translate link?
- metalerik
Thanks, I got it, :)
- Eric Logan
metalerik, re. linking to the post - absolutely ok (you probably saw I commented over there already too). Thanks for the feedback :)
- Micah Wittman
ok cool. I was just messing around and tried to get the from to work with "auto" vs. "fa" or whatever. I wonder why it doesn't work. Do you know?
- metalerik
I was planning to experiment with auto language detect in the next update to two. Let me look something for a second.
- Micah Wittman
metalerik, just set var languageCodeFrom = ''; (empty string) - wow, that's all it takes to get auto-detect working, and the first post I tried just now with Farsi in it worked! http://friendfeed.com/infinit...
- Micah Wittman
duuuuuuuuuude! pls hold. :)
- metalerik
check it out! http://friendfeed.com/lovepho...
- metalerik
(that's your friend K.D.)
- metalerik
Great, Micah! What's the translation service (e.g. Google Translate) under this?
- Roberto (postoditacco)
via fftogo
Roberto, yes, exactly: http://code.google.com/apis...
- Micah Wittman
I was using Highlight2Translate Script for this job! Thanks Michah!
- Alp
Welcome, Alp.
- Micah Wittman
UPDATE RELEASE [v0.1.2] - Added auto-language detection handling (in Configuration, you can set an explicit language with var languageCodeFrom; the default is set to auto-detect). Also added an autoTranslate option in Configuration. To automatically translate title/comments when a single entry page is loaded, set var autoTranslateEnabled = true;
- Micah Wittman
well done!!
- K.D.
No problem, K.D. This feels like the most important user script I've worked on. I hope everyone who needs it can find it :)
- Micah Wittman
thank you again, I'll share this script to other groups, the auto-detection is unbelievable cool!!
- K.D.
This is probably great, and this is going to sound like a stupid question. How do I make this work? View a single entry? How do you do that?
- Gilbert Harding
You win once again Micah! Another great script. Thanks for all the time you pour into making things easier for everyone. :)
- Simon Wicks
@Gilbert: To view a single entry click the text that says when the post was posted (e.g. "4 hours ago" or "5 seconds ago")
- Mark
Also... awesome script. Feels like the world just got a little bit smaller.
- Mark
Mark: Thank you, something else I have learnt today.
- Gilbert Harding
My quick couple of screenshots using friendfeedTranslate under Safari 4.01 w/GreaseKit: http://friendfeed.com/jhuebel...
- Jason Huebel
Another screenshot of comments being translated: http://friendfeed.com/jhuebel...
- Jason Huebel
Micah - This IS the most important script I've seen in a long long time and the sole reason for me to reinstall Greasemonkey on Firefox. Mad props to you.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It would be nice to have this built into FriendFeed. Any possibility of that happening?
- Brian Sullivan
Brian, hold on, let me pickup the the red phone in the Commissioner's office ;)
- Micah Wittman
FOR ALL AVAILABLE GOOGLE TRANSLATION API SUPPORTED LANGUAGES SEE CODES HERE: http://code.google.com/apis... - Then in the script's Configuration section, change var languageCodeTo = 'en' to whatever code matches the language you want a post translated TO.
- Micah Wittman
This is great, Micah... I've been mystified why that last piece is always missing... the auto-translate from languages you don't understand. This really should be built into the low-levels of twitter, friendfeed, etc., so that static stuff is translated once and shared if poss., the dynamic stuff just cache invalidates any translations.... or something like that.
- Richard Walker
This is one of my favourite auto-detect translated pages so far: http://friendfeed.com/lovepho... - man, even as rough as programmatic translations are today, it really helps open up inaccessible worlds :)
- Micah Wittman
Another fun thing I learned in translation today: "what in English is called the bungee cords, but in Russian formerly known as espanderom"[translation] http://friendfeed.com/spb...
- Micah Wittman
UPDATE RELEASE [v0.1.3] - No new features in this one. Minor code cleanup. Reference copy of Google language codes added to Configuration section.
- Micah Wittman
There's a bookmarklet now too! See http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
That looks like..Scotty, beam me up shit
- Chris Harris
Micah: you might have a use for the JS script in one of my projects: http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums... My friend Krishean did the script for it (the same guy that did the dragable bookmarklet hack). I have another version from him that I haven't compiled yet, that self-updates the language list, so I won't have to release a new version if Google decides to add new languages.
- April Russo
Thanks again, April. I'll check it out asap.
- Micah Wittman
SCRIPT UPDATE HERE: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
SCRIPT UPDATE [v0.1.5] - Added autoProtocolMatchingEnabled and onlyUseSecureProtocolCompatibleFeatures Configuration options. Now a secure protocol (https) for the current page is detected and all script references will be set to https in that case. Since userscripts.org does not support https, the onlyUseSecureProtocolCompatibleFeatures options controls whether to use that feature (which connects with http) or not. ~~~ As requested here: http://friendfeed.com/baiyssy...
- Micah Wittman
SCRIPT UPDATE [v0.1.6] - Fix to v0.1.5 so that onlyUseSecureProtocolCompatibleFeatures only prevents feature use if a secure connection is present.
- Micah Wittman
SCRIPT UPDATE [v0.2] "Real-time" http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Thank you Micah. Well done again
- zsafwan
Great work. But I found one issue that after the translation, some links are converted to plain text that no longer work.
- Yinfei Zhang
That's a good point, Yinfei. I'll see what I can do for a future release. For now, if you go into single post view (click timestamp) you will see the original html which should always have the working links. Thank you for the feedback - I really appreciate it.
- Micah Wittman
The Most Incredible Collaborative Music Video Ever - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Robert Scoble liked this
Wow. I can't even imagine how long this took to put together.
- Robert Scoble
Google Voice Now Lets You Change Your Number. It’ll Cost You $10. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Hal, Daniel Brusilovsky, Dan Hsiao and 11 other people liked this
Number portability can't be far off
- Russ Jackson
yep. you saw this right? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- MG Siegler
Why can't I "not like" this :P
- Adam Jackson
Still waiting on my invite even though I signed up for it the first day they offered invites.
- Noah White
Google is always thinking. I need my invite, I have been waiting for what feels like a year!
- Jay Farmington
Frode Stenstrøm, Marcel Weiß, Sam Harrelson and 123 other people liked this
How did you get Kevin to agree on tags?
- Shakeel Mahate
Maybe a little too twittery but I like it! An easy way to quickly share searches. I would like to see it somehow encompass multiple word searches though.
- Brandon Titus
Good point. I'll add comments later today.
- Paul Buchheit
awesome!
- Alfredo
what about multiple word queries?
- Frankie Warren
Sneaky!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
See! Paul is _SO GOOD_ he just says... "I'll do it later today". Well done, sir.
- Louis Gray
so can we get a combo on the search. .search only "comments" {y/n}; "tag" (y/n") ; "title" {y/n} ? In that manner we can SearchRT in various methods of text in and byitself.. !
- Peter Dawson
AWESOME!
- iTbay
fine new feature. congrats.
- metageoff
it's getting better and better by the minute. Thanks Paul. Well done
- zsafwan
Excellent feature! But seems like hashtag linkifying works only for FF posts, not imported content... Though maybe it's better this way =)
- Anton
Is there any control / logic / params / api to tweak the sort order for real time results?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Now I'm crying
- Bwana
I noticed that earlier - didn't realize it was new. Awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Hey Paul, Nimaa is right, linkifying for other languages apparently doesn't work: http://friendfeed.com/genieyc...
- Mohomed Abdullahi
Friendfeed does not need that IMO
- Stanislas Jourdan
Somewhat confusing - some # tags go to FF some go to Twitter.
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian: tags that go to Twitter are posted from Twitter
- LouCypher
so will imported tweets containing hashtags link to twitter search or friendfeed search? in the past I think they linked to twitter
- chrisofspades
LouCypher - yes and I block Twitter (but it does still show up in real time searches/filters) -- that combined with the fact that it is not easy at a glance to identify the source of the posts makes it confusing.
- Brian Sullivan
linkifying?
- Charlie Anzman
I thought I was done with hashtags after leaving twitter. Ugh
- Rodfather
Great add on the comments Paul. Native hashtags + Twitter hashtags. Awesome.
- Hutch Carpenter
Sweet.
- Shey
Very nice.
- Micah Wittman
O.K. I'm impressed. So much for the theory that you guys are releasing things slowly. I think you completely destroyed that today. Nice work!
- Michael Fidler
Cool! So: what are the most popular #tags? The most popular #tags recently? Perhaps http://www.ffholic.com/ will get on that...
- Tim Tyler
Shouldn't we be able to tag posts directly - without using a comment to do so? Comment - Like - Share - Hide - Tags? "Tags" should show you existing comment tags - and allow the adding of new ones.
- Tim Tyler
I'm with Tim. Genuine tagging would be a Good Thing.
- Chris Lasher
I'd love 'real' tags, but do I see the utility of leveraging hashtags, especially w/ all the tweets that come into FF. If they linkified twitter hashtags, and then also built their own tags system, it'd a) be more work for little more reward, and b) be confusing for some users, as there would effectively be two tag systems in FF. Lesser evil, and all that. *grin*
- Ken Kennedy
Brilliant! What happens to tags in tweets? Weren't they linked to Twitter searches?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah, given that hashtags in tweets link to Twitter Search, hashtags in other types of content should link to FriendFeed search, but WITHOUT the hash sign in the search term. But I agree that "real" FF tags would be even better. Maybe when you type a hashtag, it could get automatically converted into a real tag?
- Grey Drane
Really great improvement guys! It would be i nice feature to see the most popular tags. #improvement
- Jan Friman
Real-time search. We have it. It's here. - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Daniel Chow, Kaan Bingol and 359 other people liked this
Try http://friendfeed.com/search... It's also fun to watch the embedded search on the blog blog post (http://friendfeed.com/search...). You can see people discussing the blog post, from the blog post, in real time!
- Paul Buchheit
cooool
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
coooool
- zsafwan
GREAT !
- Stanislas Jourdan
Eeee. Awesome.
- Mark Trapp
via iPhone
Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it?
- Ian Wilker
YAY!!! FriendFeed staff rocks, that's all there is to it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust!
- Jorge "JungleG" Escobar
WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement.
- Frankie Warren
Twitter Killer!
- David Schmidt
Thanks so much Paul & Co. Excellent work!
- Leo Laporte
hey love they way they launched search.. espcially when its close to "Search Marketing Day 2009" !1
- Peter Dawson
Thanks Leo. Jim and Gary did most of the work on this one though.
- Paul Buchheit
Track is back! This is a gamechanger.
- Mike Doeff
via iPhone
Track is back!
- Christian Burns
via iPhone
Excellent news.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
I think I'm going to scream if I hear "track" again - someone please define it for me
- Jesse Stay
Wow, great work!
- Meryn Stol
I stand in awe of your hackfullness.
- Ted Gilchrist
Good work. Much-anticipated.
- Louis Gray
@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track"
- Jesse Stay
you guys rock.
- Karoli
...wowsers! Very nice!
- JA Castillo (جاسون)
The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track"
- Frankie Warren
Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track.
- Jesse Stay
That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track
- Jesse Stay
/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Killer feature. I'm watching news about Honduras scrolling by. Very useful.
- Chris Baskind
Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :)
- Frankie Warren
BTW, integrating this into my blog right now
- Jesse Stay
Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned
- Daniel J. Pritchett
this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way.
- Ted Gilchrist
awesome!:)
- m.0
kewl!
- phil baumann
Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;)
- Brandon Titus
I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems.
- Chris Lamprecht
I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Awesomeness! I'm loving this right now.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Wow you guys rock!
- Alfredo
I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please?
- Marg Uerite
You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that...
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- Mike Doeff
Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track.
- Jesse Stay
Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code.
- Dan Hsiao
Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, it's in beta and available to developers, but it's back, minus SMS support: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts).
- Mike Doeff
Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :)
- Rick Turoczy
Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track".
- Jesse Stay
BTW this is on staynalive.com now (look in the sidebar): http://staynalive.com/
- Jesse Stay
for my italian friends: stica...
- Alberto D'Ottavi
via fftogo
Jesse - you can hide the ugly search bar with a little quick CSS - it's <h1> under an easily identified class.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
via IM
Daniel, good idea - I'd love to change the title more than that though.
- Jesse Stay
just a few minutes work and I have a FriendFeed realtime search embedded in a blog http://www.amsterdam20.nl (web 2.0 event)
- Jeroen De Miranda
My #laterzheenu tags can be of some use nao. Like right nao.
- Mohomed Abdullahi
Yeah
- Brian Sullivan
FF guys: we like your style :) --- way to go!!
- Harscoat
I think I'm going to cry
- Bwana
awesomesauce!
- Simon Wicks
This is a really great innovation, congrats friendfeed team!
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
Thanks, Jim and Gary! Lots of hard work for a very cool result!
- Anne Bouey
HhhhhUuuuuuGggggEeeee !!!
- Harold Cabezas
I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks!
- topo
The first step in a storystreaming platform!
- Kevin Sablan
Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team.
- Micah Wittman
Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work.
- Ferruh Mavituna
OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:)
- Michael Fidler
Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :)
- Ross Miller
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :)
- alfred westerveld
How can we embed FriendFeed search?
- Mike Reynolds
Mike - There's a link at the top of the search just beneath the red bar.
- Mitch
A box will pop up, take the HTML code from the bottom of that box.
- Mitch
Thanks Mitch!
- Mike Reynolds
Nice the embedding code can be dynamic.... <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/search..." frameborder="0" height="600" width="400" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe>
- Mike Reynolds
Thanks @Ross it works fine now, love the RSS output.
- Ferruh Mavituna
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- tabbr
Woo! So: will this cause a FF server meltdown anytime soon?
- Tim Tyler
very good!
- standin
Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more?
- Matt Cutts
two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;)
- Franc ☺
We are there, in the battle against Twitter
- Michael_techie
Best search engine became better :)
- Chirag Chamoli
I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's amazing!
- Lizunlong
I've been waiting for this since the new UI, excellent, thank you Paul and FF! I'll give this a play later. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Micah, really looking forward to having your scripts work in Chrome. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is great. Well done, guys.
- James Myatt
Awesome :D
- Praveen Vasudev
great!!
- Mike Chelen
One more thing: All of our iframe embeds (including search) support a css=URL parameter to enable custom style. We haven't documented it yet, but see http://friendfeed.com/buildin... for an example and howto, and http://www.building43.com/ to see it live.
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Amazing
- zsafwan
I was wondering how they did that! Thanks
- Frankie Warren
But how do I customize the title so it's not the long search string?
- Jesse Stay
We're going to fix that very soon Jesse.
- Paul Buchheit
Could that (improper instancing of by louisgray.com) be the cause of http://ff.im/4J6lp ?
- ianf ⌘
Thanks Paul - that will make me feel much better about keeping it there. :-) I've got some huge community improvements coming soon that I'm hoping to integrate FriendFeed with.
- Jesse Stay
I may be missing the howto, but developed my own way awhile back using object tag, and placed in a drupal block.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
Freaking GENIUS.
- Jason Huebel
Paul, first tried to embed in the post, but did not work out. Then I embedded the search in a sidebar widget, that worked: http://www.amsterdam20.nl - any tips how to make the embedding working in a regular WP 2.8 post? Or is this not possible b/c it is an iframe? TIA!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Ah this was what i was looking for.
- Burcu Dogan
Nice - very cool.
- Cliff Gerrish
Is there any chance of losing the scroll bar? I know you can manually increase the height but would really like this frame to automatically grow on my site. Or is this technically impossible atm? Either way, a very cool feature. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Be Social and a New Uploader- July 1st, 2009 - http://blogs.smugmug.com/release...
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photo uploaded! thanks!
- Greg Birch
Wonderful news. Just started seriously using SmugMug as an alternative to flickr.
- Alex Williams
FriendFeed Debuts Real-Time Search Spanning 50+ Social Sites - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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ego search is fun again
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
you lost your ego? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
Real-time search is a great feature.. Yeah!
- John Serra
FF FTW!
- Shane
Why I am using Peoplebrowsr for real-time search: I can quickly skim through 16 searches with three keystrokes using the right cursor key in just a few seconds. Bam. Zap. Mainlining the net with zero friction. I like it like that.
- Sean McBride
@ sean - using Peoplebrowsr for the same thing. seems a little heavy though.
- nicefishfilms
A bit heavy, indeed, but I don't know of any other real-time search service that comes close to providing the ability to navigate so much info so quickly and efficiently. Monitoring dozens of feeds on what is essentially a single screen is a breeze.
- Sean McBride
So does this replace Google Reader?
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Top Ten Traffic Sources to louisgray.com Over the Last 30 Days
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This is following on to Charlie Anzman's post, here: http://friendfeed.com/charlie... and leverages Google Analytics.
- Louis Gray
Wow I was suprised to see friendfeed at #3
- Nicholas James
Should it have been higher, Nicholas?
- Louis Gray
Nicholas: I'm not. That's how it's been in my referers for months. Why do you think I've focused so much of my energy here?
- Robert Scoble
I'm seeing new source of traffic: Bing :)
- Orli Yakuel
google images is an interesting entry at #6
- chrisofspades
I'm not seeing Bing much yet... Twitter is 3, FF is 4 for me -> http://ff.im/3vlxz
- andy brudtkuhl
Not only does this show the effect of FF specifically - but also the importance of aggregated content outposts in general - http://louisgray.com/live...
- andy brudtkuhl
Maybe I should spend bit more time on FF as well. It's nowhere near the top for me. Now if we could see the right side of the Analytics screenshot as well to get a better sense of how well it really does.
- Marko Saric
@Marko good point... Of my top 10 traffic sources, FriendFeed has the lowest bounce rate and highest time on site
- andy brudtkuhl
Honestly never saw this until I tried the new real time search ... Was wondering where that HUGE increase in traffic came from :)
- Charlie Anzman
Gary Vaynerchuk and the wine family business - http://www.building43.com/videos...
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MediaPost Publications Most Americans Still Befuddled By Smartphones 07/02/2009 - http://www.mediapost.com/publica...
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Women are far more eager to rate texting as very important (71% compared to 46% of men), cameras (55% of women versus 30% of men), listening to music on their mobile devices (44% of women versus 25% of men) and game functions (14% versus 9% of men.) Women were also more likely to rank GPS and book reading features as very important. Men, on the other hand, are far more likely to rank calendar functions that link to their computers as very important (46% versus 39%).
- George Kelly
Looking forward to attending Reboot Britain http://www.rebootbritain.com/
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How FriendFeed Could Become the Ultimate Social Media Tracking Service http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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@derrickharris also thinks the cloud conversation has shifted from "what" to "how": http://pro.gigaom.com/2009... (My take: http://news.cnet.com/8301-19...)
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Who says blogging is dead? @photomatt says posts to Wordpress.com have almost doubled from 2008 to 2009: http://wordpress.tv/2009...
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The only place I ever hear about blogging being dead is right here on Friendfeed. Meanwhile, back in the real world, my wife blogs every day and her friends are always talking about this blog and that blog. Why do all these social media types keep claiming blogging is dead?
- Luke Stay
Because they're on FriendFeed and aren't blogging anymore would be my guess. :)
- Bryan
Luke, what Bryan said. With the advent of Twitter and FriendFeed the "experts" are all saying you don't need to blog any more. I was on a panel with a few of those several months ago and I had to argue with them why these technologies have actually gotten me to blog more than before, not less. The early adopter types are usually the ones that start a trend, and eventually the rest of...
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- Jesse Stay
I just signed on with word press. Very nice site for blogging.
- James Hague
Yeah, sorry social media folks, Friendfeed will never replace blogging in the real world. In fact, Friendfeed will never catch on in the real world. Facebook has too strong a hold on mainstream users. Yes, I understand that they're very different, but the average Joe doesn't care about those differences.
- Luke Stay
Luke, sites will change and FB dominance will die just as MySpace died. It'll take time but will happen.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
Luke, whether it's FriendFeed or some other site Facebook can't hold onto their dominance forever. Others will compete - never say never. At the same time FriendFeed and Twitter are far from replacements for blogging.
- Jesse Stay
I agree, FB dominance will die someday, but not any time soon, and FriendFeed certainly won't be the one to cause its fall. FriendFeed attempts to add features and solve problems on the internet that the average Joe just doesn't care about. Show your mom FriendFeed and watch her reaction. I predict you will see complete indifference, "What do I need that for?" Any of my non-geek friends...
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- Luke Stay
Jesse, I never said Facebook will never lose it's dominance. I said FriendFeed will never catch on in the real world.
- Luke Stay
Luke, that's the same with Twitter - they each have their niche. Is Twitter mainstream? "Mainstream"'s such a vague word.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, the minute Twitter was featured on Oprah, it became mainstream. Not to mention all the local news coverage across the US and the huge feature on the cover of TIME magazine a couple of weeks ago.
- Luke Stay
Luke, yet millions of moms and dads still don't use it, despite Oprah.
- Jesse Stay
But they know about it. Mainstream is not a vague word, it's a relative word, and relative to the US, Twitter is mainstream. You can't watch Prime Time television without hearing it mentioned at least once.
- Luke Stay
I asked someone at work if they were on twitter and they just gave me a blank stare- they never even heard of it! OR Facebook for that matter.
- James Hague
James, wow, Twitter is one thing, but Facebook too? That surprises me. They are in the minority, that's for sure.
- Luke Stay
And, just like that, @technosailor and all of our conversations are gone from FriendFeed...
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I'm not "liking" the actions but just acknowledging it.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
It's his choice to delete them. I don't begrudge him that. It's just not a very community-like thing to do.
- Karoli
Yeah this isn't meant to begrudge him - I'm just finding it interesting that FriendFeed deletes *everything*, even if some of those conversations belonged to me. Facebook doesn't delete the entire past when you leave, something they've been criticized for, but I think it's wise.
- Jesse Stay
The way it should be done is if I go back to past conversations I was involved in they'll still appear, but if I visit his profile it will be gone - it's a much more complicated task to accomplish on FriendFeed's end
- Jesse Stay
Tweetcraft - A World of Warcraft Twitter client - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Geek And Poke: Realtime In A Downturn - Part 1 - http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/geekand...
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In other news, I am no longer going to publish to my blog. Posterous and my lifestream there will be home base http://www.steverubel.com/its-off...
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I think this is a mistake - you're completely relying on others to own your content. If any of them go down that content's gone forever.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, you can find Wordpress plugins that do the auto-posting on self-hosted Wordpress installations.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, don't you post to posterous via e-mail? Seems like everything you create will at least be in your Sent folder.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That's very pro-posterous ...
- Mark Bean
Akiva, it just seems like you're losing control by doing that. I can post to my blog via e-mail as well with the right plugins.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, true. I'm just wondering if something like posterous might be a good solution for people who have had their urge to fully blog sapped away by sites like FriendFeed. I barely post anywhere now but often wish I had something more flexible than FriendFeed but without all of the hassle and overhead of running a WordPress blog. People don't seem to complain about giving up e-mail to Google; why is posterous different?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I think you are right-on here Steve. I'm following your example. The DNS records are in place for Posterous to host my domain and the whole lot of my content. Jesse is surely correct about the risk but the flexibility of directing via email second-destination posts is too enticing. For now anyway.
- Daniel K. Boyd
That's a change, but have just started utilizing them as well in addition so it's easy to see why.
- James Stratford
Akiva, I'm trying to bring more of the FriendFeed, Twitter, etc. conversation over to my personal blog, personally. IMO that's something e-mail can't backup - the conversations are what I'm trying to own even more than the content.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, ah, yeah, that's a great point. I didn't even consider the comments. You would almost think that there was a business idea in here somewhere: some kind of cross-platform/cross-site back-up solution for people who blogs and comments strewn all over the Internet.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Its difficult to control the formatting in posterous: its great for photos plus captions, but will you be attempting to publish long-form essays or other articles there too? I use posterous/tumblr for quick little things and blogger for longer articles.
- DGentry
Akiva, technically, you could use Disqus or Backtype to do that, but again, I want it all happening around my blog and my brand. I want control, not another company to control.
- Jesse Stay
Technically you could use Disqus or Backtype, but that is not the easiest implementation and then the commenters need accounts, don't they? I agree with Akiva, there is a great need for an easy product that could integrate disparate comment threads and bring them back to a blog.
- Laura Norvig
I don't even necessarily want them in a blog. I want them in some kind of format that I can store them, manipulate them, and/or re-consume them without having to rely on all of the original source sites/formats. I'm talking about a back-up system and not an import system.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Laura, the commenters don't need Disqus accounts. See Fred Wilson's breakdown: http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
- Bruce Lewis
@DG I will be. Try posting to it from GMail.
- Steve Rubel
One thing. Posterous converts all embedded media links into internal references, so you will NOT be able to get your content off their servers if anything ever goes wrong. Go into the source view of one your posts on Posterous which includes a YouTube video or whatever, and you'll see what I mean.
- Marlin Forbes
And another thing, you want control over your brand? Posterous doesn't allow much in the way of customization of the blog design. Last time I used it, every blog on their system looked exactly the same. Way to stand out from the crowd. Wanna adjust the behaviour of the blog by adding plugins? No can do. I like the idea, but if the only reason you're doing it is for the auto-posting by e-mail, then there's loads of ways of doing that without losing control over your content.
- Marlin Forbes
Posterous SEO has room for improvement. They are aware of this but have no immediate plans to address this. Just something to consider.
- jh
You can also see your lifestream here: http://ff.amplifeeder.com/user...
- Paul Kinlan
@JH how?
- Steve Rubel
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if people will be using gmail or yahoo mail to post to posterous it would be best for them to download and use Zemanta to make the email look more like a blogpost. I tried it out here and I couldn't believe I did this on my email: http://robsanchez.posterous.com/the-cha...
- Robert Sanchez Jr.
@Robert Zemanta is great, but why is "look more like a blogpost" a desireable trait?
- Wade Dorrell
@Jesse I agree with everything you are saying... but regarding ownership -- what about all the content you pump into FF, FB, and twitter? you don't own that
- andy brudtkuhl
Jesse and Andy - As I understand it, content you create is yours. But Steve would be relying on Posterous to display that content. A couple of backup strategies come to mind. It's there in your email, nicely backed up. You could autopost that content to Tumblr or, say, a Wordpress.com blog, where it will be there as a live backup. Comments, though, are for now stuck on Posterous, and it would require screen scraping to retrieve them. I don't know if/when the Posterous guys intend to make them exportable.
- Eric Johnson
Actually, the Posterous API supports export of posts, media *and comments*. So with a little scripting, you can take it all with you should you need to leave. http://posterous.com/api...
- Eric Johnson
Good debate here with very valid points (re: control, SEO, etc.). I would say that Posterous (or Tumblr) should only be 1 of the many elements of your social media presence. Can see Steve's need for a shorter outlet though, as I've been using Posterous myself in this way for the last 6 months, as a "Quick Hits" outlet to post excerpts and brief responses to -...
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- Alex Schleber
I agree with those who do not agree: you lose conreol, tracking data, referrers etc. You have far less conreol over the communications (and gaining that is the main reasin to blog anyways ;) )
- oliver gassner
Oliver that's not the case with Posterous.
- Steve Rubel
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friendfeedCommentBottomLink - released today (greasemonkey script): Adds a Comment Link to the bottom of a FriendFeed Post thread [EDIT: v0.27 now has option to disable enter key submits comment - NOTE: See functionality caveat in comments] http://userscripts.org/scripts...
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- Micah Wittman
Did a quick update to version 0.2 - The [Comment] link was getting sandwiched as new comments appeared in realtime. Fixed!
- Micah Wittman
Would you please have it disable itself on individual thread pages? (Since the comment box appears by default.)
- ...Vezquex
vezquex - excellent point. Version 0.21 has the fix ("Bottom Comment link is not needed on a permalink page since the comment field is open by default. Fixed.") and it's ready for download http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Micah Wittman
I just upgraded earlier today and now the comment link isn't showing up at all :-( I miss it
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
zoblue, are you on v0.23 ? There's been a quick succession of releases.
- Micah Wittman
Thanks...This is really helpful
- Arafat Hossain Piyada
You're most welcome, piyadasworld :)
- Micah Wittman
thank-you from the bottom of my heart....
- David HC Soul
David, just doing my part to reduce frustration-induced casting of stones :) #civil (appreciate the words - you're welcome).
- Micah Wittman
Ah, that did it, I uninstalled then reinstalled and now it's up to the latest version 0.23. YAY!!!!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Doesn't work in Chrome. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, are you on Chrome on XP/Vista? Inside a VM? Is your script file in C:\scripts and named friendfeedcommentbottomlink.user.js ?
- Micah Wittman
Coolness! Is there a way I can align the [Comment] text to the left rather than the center? I tried modding the code, but I'm not good at parsing javascript. EDIT: I'm also using AJ's Cleaner FriendFeed style, if that makes a difference.
- Jandy
Jandy, yep, just give me a second. *scanning code...*
- Micah Wittman
Jandy, line 79 (or there abouts) starts with: [CODE]$(this).after('<div class="bottomCommentLinkDiv" style="margin:-.5em 0 1em 40%">[/CODE] —change the 40% to 5px (or whatever margin-left spacing you want :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Micah! I was looking in totally the wrong place. That worked perfectly.
- Jandy
Ok, great. Glad the script is helpful to you :)
- Micah Wittman
Micah, Vista and it's here: C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\User Scripts with the rest of my scripts. And it's called "friendfeedCommentBottomLink.js".
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, try changing the script file name to exactly: "friendfeedcommentbottomlink.user.js" and restart Chrome (with "--enable-user-scripts" flag of course). I tested on XP, you're on Vista, but let's normalize the other factors at least.
- Micah Wittman
thanks; just installed it. [edit: removed it, kinda fugly. :( ]
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, I didn't think it looked too good either...till I changed the left margin from 40% to 1em and added a space before & after the word Comment (within the brackets). Looks great, now: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u...
- April Russo
Nice one, April! More oars in the water will get us there quicker :)
- Micah Wittman
much needed mod
- MikeAmundsen
Ok, thanks for the feedback everyone here. I just posted v0.24 which now has some key layout/style options in a Configuration section near the top of the script. The default position of the "[ Comment ]" link is left (instead of centred). I had originally gone with centred because I found my mouse pointer was thereabouts when I was wheel scrolling up and down the page, so it was a shortest-distance-to-the-target that drove the decision. But April's style is better looking, so it's the default config now :)
- Micah Wittman
how about combining with the expand comments button since it is only needed on very long discussions
- Mike Chelen
Mike Chelen, but an important use case is you've already expanded a long thread, have read from top to bottom and are now ready to comment (the expand N more comments link is gone at that point).
- Micah Wittman
Issue with the latest update: It's adding like links to a user's own items, which as we all know you aren't allowed to like your own stuff.
- April Russo
Thanks, April - I'll fix that.
- Micah Wittman
April, just released [v0.26] http://userscripts.org/scripts... which fixed the Like problem. Thanks again for the feedback :)
- Micah Wittman
No problem, and thanks for the great work.
- April Russo
Thanks again, April.
- Micah Wittman
[v0.27] Added feature that, while in a comment box, pressing the enter key does not submit and inserts a new line instead (submit by clicking Post button). Off by default; enabled it in Configuration by setting var enableEnterKeyDoesNewlineNotSubmit = true. http://userscripts.org/scripts...
- Micah Wittman
Nice update! Thanks!
- Andy Bold
Just added to a Fluid SSB for FriendFeed. Works like a charm. Thanks!
- nadezhda
Andy, nadezhda, thanks for letting me know :)
- Micah Wittman
Awesome. I'm going back to FF 3.0 to read FriendFeed until Greasemonkey is available for 3.5 (what's taking so long?)
- Brad Kligerman
How do we "disable enter key submits comment?"
- DarknessFalls
@DarknessFalls: Right-click the Greasemonkey icon. Select "Manage User Scripts..." Highlight the friendfeedCommentBottomLink script and click the "Edit" button. (If this is your first time doing this then you will be prompted to locate a text editor. Windows has Notepad.exe, and Mac has Textedit in Applications.) Find the enableEnterKeyDoesNewlineNotSubmit setting near the top of the script and change "false" to "true". Save the change and refresh the Friendfeed page and you're done.
- Andy Bold
@Micah: One thing that I have noticed - when you enable enableEnterKeyDoesNewlineNotSubmit the comment entry box does not resize. It stays stuck in single-line mode. I'm using Firefox 3.0.10 on Mac. :)
- Andy Bold
Andy, I must have something set wrong somewhere because when I try to edit, a window opens to the Firefox directory. No file to edit. Where does Greasemonkey store the scripts?
- Curtis Jackson
Alan, it will be different per machine, for instance Firefox stores my scripts something like: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\agf0etrd.default\gm_scripts\friendfeedcommentbottoml\friendfeedcommentbottoml.user.js But you don't have to go there directly if GreaseMonkey has been associated with a text editor. Right click, manage scripts, then there a button or checkbox of some sort that allows you to choose an editor (notepad.exe, or whatever).
- Micah Wittman
[[[ FUNCTIONALITY CAVEAT HERE ]]]: Andy, regarding box resizing - yes, I should state the caveat that (until I can figure out a way to achieve a more nuanced approach in the code) the keypress event bound to the comment box is disabled, which includes multi-line and re-sizing, and character count display (when it goes past the threshold). I'll make this clearer in the post. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
Alan, What Micah said :-) Any Mac peeps reading this can find the scripts in ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox/Profiles/SomeRandomString.default/gm_scripts
- Andy Bold
<ahem> After reading the Title Bar of the window, I now realize Greasemonkey was asking me for my default editor. Whoopsie!
- Curtis Jackson
No prob, Alan.
- Micah Wittman
Micah, thanks for clearing that up! I'll file it under "Feature" for now, and install this : http://userscripts.org/scripts... :-) (Been meaning to do this for a while anyway. It's one thing from Safari that I miss in Firefox - the ability to re-size any text box.) (Edit: Blah - script doesn't work. Never mind. :)
- Andy Bold
Alan : I just updated my original post. Thanks for reminding me that Greasemonkey does this! :-)
- Andy Bold
Andy, no problem. It's a shame Greasemonkey doesn't ask when it's installed. THAT would be the time I'd expect configuration questions. :)
- Curtis Jackson
was anyone able to get the bottom comment and like to work on Chrome 2.0 on Vista?
- Harold
@Kol: not sure why my last comment didn't bump this back up to the current topics... but were you able to get this working on Vista & Chrome 2.0 ?
- Harold
Harold, it's not just you. Chrome 2 has some odd hangup with certain general purpose code that should execute fine but doesn't. When I (or someone else - please let me know) figures it out, I'll update you. I'm sure it's frustrating for you, I know it is for me. Stay tuned :)
- Micah Wittman
Harold, I think the reason our comments aren't bumping this up to the top of this group is there's an algorithm that considers the age of the post (based on creation date I'm thinking) as part of the decision to bump to top or not upon additional comments.
- Micah Wittman
@Micah, I started working on integrating the bottom comment with the Cleaner Friend Feed script. If I get it working, I'll be sure to let you know.
- Harold
Harold, cool. Keep me posted.
- Micah Wittman
Harold, if I remember correctly last time I was in the code with Chrome 2, execution never even made it out of the GM_wait function.
- Micah Wittman
Micah: the comment box would appear the first time you click expand, so it is ready when reaching the bottom of the post
- Mike Chelen
Mike, ok, I get you now. I should be able to work that in as a configurable option. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
Micah: hey great, that would be cool, thanks for all these great FF tweaks, been having a lot of fun trying them out!
- Mike Chelen
How much overhead is there in running greasemonkey? Any chance FriendFeed will finally fix this themselves after all this time?
- Internet Strategist
A FriendFeed intern just acknowledged my request in another thread for them to look into fixing these usability issues.
- Internet Strategist
In my experience, the overhead of the greasemonkey extension itself isn't perceptible. The script(s) you have activated on the other hand can be - it all depends on what the script tries to acheive and how well optimized it is (lag can often be a consequence of scripts that make requests to other web services that may not be responsive).
- Micah Wittman
Thanks Micah. I may test it. I just realized there is already a "fix" for the screen jumping when you subscribe that works on at least some pages although it can be a little tricky. Right click on the Subscribe link and open it in another tab.
- Internet Strategist
Micah just started using FireFox 3.5 and when trying to install this received this error message: Script could not be installed [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIChannel.open]" nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://greasemonkey/content/utils.js :: getContents :: line 244" data: no] Is there something I need to change on my side?
- Peter du Toit
Peter, thank you for alerting me. Hmm. Was this Firefox 3.5 on Windows?
- Micah Wittman
Yes Windows XP
- Peter du Toit
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It works fine on FF 3.5 on Vista.
- flapic
Peter, it may be a problem with the gm_scripts directory SEE http://www.nabble.com/unable-... (context is WinXP): "This error is usually caused by a missing greasemonkey configuration file or gm_scripts directory. Please go to your firefox profile directory (on windows something like c:\Documents and Settings\<user>\Application...
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- Micah Wittman
Thanks Micah will check it out and let you know. Was working perfectly with F/Fox 3.0.11
- Peter du Toit
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the gm_scripts directories are there but config.xml file missing
- Peter du Toit
Added empty config.xml and it fixed the problem! Thanks Micah!
- Peter du Toit
Great news, Peter! :)
- Micah Wittman
Google Apps Go Social With Improved Contacts & A New API http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs: There will be blood - http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2009...
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But hey. Maybe you'll lure away some of our developers. Maybe you'll lure away some customers too. So this is your business plan: You're going to set up a Camaro car lot across the street from the Mercedes dealer, and put up some bright balloons and streamers and maybe some huge signs about how your cuh-raaaazy prices can't be beat! Oh, and maybe some kind of big inflatable dog or something. And a bouncy castle for the kids! Free hot dogs! Girls with big hair, wearing shiny shorts and tiny T-shirts! A year's worth of free gas!
- MG Siegler
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God, I missed Fake Steve.
- Kevin Pedraja
Fantastic.
- Morgan Collins
"Palm, which has reinvented itself with a business model that basically involves doing whatever Apple does, only two years later" Great line....
- Frank Valletutti
Great to see FSJ back in full force.
- Patrick Jordan
Google won't run all the Wave servers | Webware - CNET - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
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"Google has said it will "federate" Wave. That means it will make it possible for anyone to operate their own Wave server and have it communicate with other Wave servers. This is just how e-mail works today: Anyone can run an e-mail server that can send messages to and receive messages from any other e-mail system. The Internet routes messages from server to server."
- LANjackal
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But note how many people moved to centralized web based email like yahoo, gmail, etc.
- Todd Hoff
I'm just curious as to how identities will be managed across different Wave servers, as well as spam (Spave, or Wam lol?) prevention
- LANjackal
The key with federation is that it enables private, public and third party servers that can communicate using wave protocol. Apps on those servers may not be all-wave, but it creates autonomy that corporations and business partners will need. It's a deep, deep rethink of the Web that's been sorely needed. Email is a travesty.
- John Blossom
A) Identities will be managed by OpenID identity providers. You'll store your ID with someone, potentially even your own company, but more likely with a Google, or Facebook or Yahoo -most likely someone we "all" trust to ensure that you are your own unique individual. B) John & LANJackal are correct. The wave federation principal makes it such that any and all entities can run their own...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@guruvan: Isn't all email centralized? :P I'm just saying. And yeah being the first to debut a technology is likely to get you most of the users. However, the article does point out that Wave is likely to be tough to develop for. That will need to change for widespread adoption to be the case.
- LANjackal
I think it will be hard for people and companies to get to the point where they can have a client that's equal or better than Google's version of it. We do need more clients than just the Google one.
- Peter Stuifzand
I'm not sure that I agree. I think there's plenty of potential client developers that could do an equal or better job. But, what I really think is that where client developers are going to succeed is in the niche products that support Wave. Google's product is likely to be good enough for nearly everyone for personal use, so I don't know that there's a big win for developers in that area, but specialized corporate wave applications and servers are likely to be a big hit.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@guruvan: +1 on the corporate wave apps. That is, if you have a forward looking IT department. Those are vanishingly rare
- LANjackal
Still struggling to get my head around just where this can go. The possibilities are endless.
- Jamie
@Jamie: I'm sure you're not the only one, lol. I'm cautiously optimistic, though I'd be really excited if Facebook deployed it atop their messaging/chat system, which is currently horribly limited. I'm from the engineering field where IT departments still use IE6, so I'm not holding my breath to see it in any office I sit in anytime soon :(
- LANjackal
Jamie: unless you're a developer or running a company that's in a space that's deeply affected by this, you have plenty of time to get your head around it. Realistically it's going to be at least 18mos before we really see any of this note into corporate environments. Remember, they're still at the point of blocking social media sites, so it's going to take a fundamental shift in attitudes before they'll want to adopt all of the technologies that a wave can encompass.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
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LANJackal I don't think that this is something that facebook can deploy wave on top of their chat. What they SHOULD do is rip that crap chat out and replace it with wave
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
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@guruvan: Yeah I know. It seems to me though that Facebook deliberately avoids adding advanced capabilities to some of its features to prevent users from being scared off by a steep - for non-tech people - learning curve. As a result, chat is *really* dumbed down, and so is Notes, which has glaringly lacked a WYSIWYG editor since its inception. It's rather saddening :(
- LANjackal
Having just watched the wave demo video, and now more intimately understanding the full implications of the idea (and the product) - I stand by my above statements, and my blog post. Facebook needs to catch the wave or get trounced in the marketplace. In my blog I mentioned that FriendFeed is the only one of the social networks that's supremely poised to take advantage of the wave....
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@guruvan: "Facebook needs to catch the wave" ... Facebook has succeeded *despite* lacking advanced features such as WYSIWYG or proper chat formatting that other services have. Twitter has boomed despite having a featureset that could fit on the back of a business card. Don't get me wrong, Wave is great, but clearly as far as widespread adoption of a technology goes, it's not all about...
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- LANjackal
when can i get Google wave!!!
- Joe Azzara
@Joe: Go to Mountain View, CA. Buy bottle of water. Douse self with said bottle ...
- LANjackal
LANJackal, you're absolutely right. And I did point out somewhere, that a) Facebook has time, and B) Facebook just raised $200million. That buys them a lot, IMO. But, The fact is, that wave IS going to be easy to develop for, and it IS going to see rapid widespread adoption. (but that IS on the timeframe of 18months or so, so the above points still stand...there is time, but only if...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
this article is a good clarifier. just because it's google, it doesn't mean we should expect them to do all the work and hand it down to us on a silver platter. this requires cooperation of third parties for it to happen well. they're facilitating a change across services by introducing a new protocol, api, and federation based on existing technologies. to help others grasp an...
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- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
I just hope Wave is going to be simple and user friendly unlike Google Friend Connect. Well, to me anyway. Most of you probably are not having the same troubles but I am having a hard time uploading those two files after downloading them to my computer. It's just giving me a blank screen. Anyone knows why that is? Please message me on Twitter: RONJeremiah thanks a lot!
- RON08
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