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Reading "Here comes Hillary: Overlooked apology opens door for N. Korea talks" http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtr...
Hey! We're reading opposite articles!: 'Sarah Grabs the Grievance Grab Bag From Hillary' http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
- Ken Oatman
I am seriously hoping Sarah Palin considers calling on me to be a strategic image advisor. I would do wonders for her. She's got what it takes, but keeps getting herself in hot water. I could help.
- Scott M Iseman
The Power of Passed Links By Fred Wilson - http://www.avc.com/a_vc...
Liked his stats with Twitter, Facebook & Google.
- Scott M Iseman
Woman mauled by Polar Bear at Berlin Zoo - http://www.inquisitr.com/21736...
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Gee... let's pet the fuzzy, cute bear. Yes, this sounds like a grand idea, let's.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I think we can pretty much agree on who in this picture is more intelligent.
- Kim Landwehr
Darwin Award nominee anyone?
- The Dude Abides
Now what the hell did she expect to happen?
- Kevin Whalen
But its a Zoo, you mean those animals aren't tame?
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
ah, when people grow up alienated from Nature, seeing animals on TV only, and not having any idea what a wild animal is....
- Bora Zivkovic
doh!
- Susan Beebe
Crazy.
- Nation Hahn
That bear is tame, or at least not hungry. If a polar bear locks its jaws on your neck and you aren't dead, then he only wants to play.
- Bruce Lewis
Thin the gene pool.
- AJ Kohn
Ouch. But, an amazing picture. Glad she lived.
- Scott M Iseman
I posted the video here: http://www.zee.me/blog...
- Zee.
The sorry woman in question had some mental problems it is now being reported.
- Andrew Leyden
I can just about see how this is newsworthy but the images are simply sensationalist and appalling.
- Alexander Kohlhofer
Oy.
- Louis Gray
I've spent the whole day thinking people were being too quick to joke about this because I thought it was a zoo employee. Finally read the article. That's some kind of stupid.
- Louis Simoneau
And to dive in during feeding time, of all times. Presumably we won't learn much more about her mental condition due to patient privacy, but at least she survived.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Sure it always starts with the ooohhs and ahhhs but it always ends with screaming and running ..
- Tony C
Bet He Was Hungry.
- nfan12
Is Scoble too noisy? Solution: http://webworkerdaily.com/2009... Twalala. Lets you temporarily silence that noisy baaahhhhsssttttaaaarrrrrddddd.
Andrew Currie, Robert Couture, Morton Fox and 5 other people liked this
It is one of my current dilemna: how to keep track of the gems within the noise.
- Pascal Barbier
Yeah, I like the look of Twalala.com, but a mute function is something I really need in Tweetie, more than in my browser.
- Grey Drane
i just file you under "noisy bastards" on FF
- Scot Mcphee
Actually, Twalala.com in Safari on the iPhone is pretty cool. Now if it just did multiple account management....
- Grey Drane
I don't find Scoble too noisy. I enjoy following strong personalities with something to say. For me, I appreciate confidence, credibility and innovation.
- Scott M Iseman
hahahahah!!
- Susan Beebe
Overnight success takes a long time - http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2009...
Nicola Junior Vitto, Gavin, Iggy Mwangi and 184 other people liked this
Thanks Paul... great post.
- Brian Roy
Most overnight successes take an Alaskan winter.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Great post, Paul. One of the running themes of a lot of the posts yesterday seemed to come from "well, it's been a year: FriendFeed should be in a much different place," but great things take time to do.
- Mark Trapp
Scott Berkun wrote a really fine book entitled "the myths of innovaiton" (http://www.amazon.com/Myths-I...). He points out that perhaps the greatest myth of innovation is that the innovation arrives in it's entirety in a single moment in time. Essentially that the innovation was a single flash of insight and execution. The reality is it comes piecemeal over time.
- Brian Roy
Nice Paul, there are a whole boatload of startup / project myths I wish we could bust. The "overnight success" is one of the worst.
- mikepk
Brain, exactly, and the myth there is the "one idea" that precipitates success drives me crazy too. I wrote a post (and reposted it a few months ago) about this one. http://mikepk.com/2008...
- mikepk
excellent Paul and while I have expressed my thoughts before I just may take you up on the "post your ideas"
- Steven Hodson
Amen!! Peeps tend to see "web celebs," for example, once they're up there ... but no one sees the *years* of hard work prior! I like to say I'm an overnight success 10 years in the making!! :)
- Mari Smith
Another interesting effect is that the VC cycle is predicated on hyper growth and 2 to 5 year return on investment. That helps push some ideas to failure even though, if given a more natural growth curve, they might have succeeded.
- mikepk
+1 Mikepk - VC funding creates a hyper-focus on geometric growth instead of creating a sustainable company... Those two are NOT the same thing.
- Brian Roy
Hyper-growth is dangerous because it forces a lot of short term moves, such as hiring the wrong people because you need them _now_. I suspect that better companies come out of busts than booms because they are able to grow at a reasonable pace.
- Paul Buchheit
Epitome of why I love, trust, and believe in FriendFeed. Classy, Paul and thank you for sharing with the community.
- Mona Nomura
Tell me about it. I got the arrows in my back to prove it. :-)
- Dave Winer
Nice summary, Paul. As I mentioned in a comment on the post, it's clear you understand we care, and that we didn't intend to open the door for those clamoring for you to fail - but it was a natural result.
- Louis Gray
"Once we launched, the response was surprisingly positive, except from the people who hated it for a variety of reasons. "
- Clare Dibble
Although I have a love-hate affair with FriendFeed and my interest periodically peaks and wanes, Confucius says 'never trust a man who wears a beret the wrong way round'.
- Andy C
@Paul - "Yes, technically you're doing my work for me, but it's mutually beneficial because we'll do our best to create a product that you like". Was this supposed to be an indirect response to Dave W asking you to pay him consulting for his ideas?
- kartik vaithyanathan
Paul Buchheit +1
- Duncan Riley
So true. People think that from registering a domain to becoming a millonaire takes 1 idea and a couple of months. It took our company 10-years to do something "successful".
- Martin Añazco
Been around this block a few times myself Paul. There is a pheneomenon out there around second ventures after the first was a winner. Let's have a talk about this over a beer after the outcome of FF is known. And also, I wouldn't necessarily count on the experience of selling a "product" inside a juggernaut like Google as being the same thing as making something work in the blogosphere or where ever it is FF is supposed to be planted.
- Dave Winer
One more thing -- you're a very good writer -- but there's something else that isn't in your post. The odds against all startups are overwhelmingly against them. Ask Ev about Odeo someday. Your post is remarkably like the things he was writing about that product. And like the stuff I was saying after my company's IPO and was starting my second company. Unfortunately this was before blogs, so you'll have to take my word for it. I didn't really consider the possibility of failure. And of course we did fail.
- Dave Winer
at least 24 hrs... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Great post Paul. Too many companies (see Webvan and slew of others) thought rapid growth was enough. But good businesses grow slowly, even on the Internet.
- AJ Kohn
Nice post and great perspective. Nice position to be able to compare your own gmail experience to your FF experience.
- Bankwatch
Here's Joel Spolsky talking about the same thing: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/article...
- Piaw Na
The comments on your blog are awesome, e.g. "Gmail would be a lot better if it allowed registration of usernames < 6 characters wide." Proposed reply, "Oh, you can, but every single one has already been taken"
- j1m
I commented in the post, but I saw a comment in FriendFeed that noted how another well-known service had a well-executed marketing introduction, followed by rapid growth, followed by severe technical failures. Not to imply that one growth model is always right and another one is always wrong (plus, that company solved its technical issues).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Paul, keep up the good fight to properly manage FF for optimal growth, scalability and integration of features. Rushed products typically fail. However, a healthy burn rate is good too. Release timely updates in response to user demand. There are some important UIX features that should be released soon as users are clamoring for ease of use features and FF could risk losing more users if these basic UI features are not implemented within a reasonable amount of time. Good Luck! :)
- Susan Beebe
I commented over at the post. Really nice entry, with great perspective.
- Martha
Paul: I've read this post three times and it's a work of art. Thank you and thank you for creating a service that has addicted me for almost a year now.
- Robert Scoble
Not to one up Scoble, but it's the service itself that is the work of art.
- Jim Misses SP
i appreciate this blended perspective. today i am dealing with the often elusive "balancing" objective, i.e., what is an acceptable pace towards those "goals posts", while honoring the organic nature of the quest!
- Gregg
+2 Paul
- Varun Mahajan
Paul, FriendFeed just rocks... It's already great today...
- Aad 't Hart
Impressed with the loyalty I see many have for Friendfeed.
- Scott M Iseman
Nice stuff.... some great comments etc.. thanks to mona for pointing me to it. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Paul's piece got reprinted at All Things D. Nice exposure: http://voices.allthingsd.com/2009010...
- Louis Gray
Paul, I think FriendFeed is the best thing that I saw in 2008 on the web. It is still rough and needs to figure out how to best reel in the casual user, but there is so much promise in this service. The core of it is so powerful really and you guys are months if not years ahead of anyone else working in this area right now. Good luck to you and your team!
- Thomas Hawk
+1 Thomas! Couldn't agree more... keep up great work FF team!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Who here is new to Friendfeed? Use this thread to ask questions, we'll do our best to support you as a community. welcome!
John Coslovich, frank barry, Stuart Miniman and 44 other people liked this
Me. Although I've figured out how to leave comments :-)
- David Ing
I'm not new, but wanted to *wave* and say welcome to those who are =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Welcome David
- Jeremiah Owyang
I 'm not new but revisiting Friend Feed as I abandoned it. Hey all!
- Jay Gilmore
Here is a PROs and CONs to using FriendFeed conversation: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- B2B Specialist
I just signed up. I have been using Twitter but I'm looking for an easier way to follow conversations. Hoping Friendfeed will workout better.
- Kent
A week new. Learning the ropes. Love the data concatenation though (across SM). thanks Jeremiah.
- Jim Mitchem
Is a room for new FF members? That could be nice.
- Amani
I think there is a room that gives a general introduction, and I know there's a room for user profiles (that gets sporadic use at best). But having a thread like this out in the wild for users to ask questions is always a good thing.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
pico, i set up a gaza room a couple of days ago, haven't used it yet.
- ernie yacub
Pretty new, ca 1 month, heard about it a long time ago but never bothered with social networks (eg. twitter and facebook) , registered and got hooked on FF ! :) Not really a question though ...
- Thomas Bøhm
GAZA room is now #gaza which connects with twitter group
- ernie yacub
i am wat you could call a novice to the hole social networking joined up to the so called most ratted still trying to get to grips with it lol
- eric
(Raises Hand)
- Jesse Stay
Welcome new folks! If there's anything anybody needs, just ask! Don't be shy, everyone here is happy to help.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I like turtles
- Josh Haley
Jesse - you have a question?
- Amani
Amani, I have many questions
- Jesse Stay
@jeremiah: generous and brilliant. you're putting the 'friend' into friendfeed. kudos!
- .LAG liked that
Hi Jeremiah. Another new FF user here.
- Greg Guitarbuster
hi everyone, im fairly new with a day or 2 of experience
- Web20Critic
from twhirl
Thanks LAG, and welcome!
- Jeremiah Owyang
I am relatively new here and appreciate your reach out..I have found Robert Scoble approachable and have gained my greatest insight from Bill Romanos. This is a very important move on your part to assist newcomers...I have great respect for this offer of assistance to us newbies..
- bcultral
I also have a software that I have designed and I went broke having the prototype built by a firm in southern India. Ephrontech.com I want to change the world and I have been following this Vision for many years, starting in the jungles of Belize. High Tech Retribalization..the architect is a genius IT Solutions guy formally a IT manager at GE...I need direction!!!! Please point me in the right direction..SpokenWord.Tv
- bcultral
I just absorb
- bcultral
My Story: http://www.dailykos.com/story...
- bcultral
Just joined--so why is this better or more useful that other services?
- Parth
Joined a few months ago but never used it....trying to navigate through but love it so far!
- Alison
Just politely chiming in. See, there may be some action happening around these parts.
- Scott M Iseman
I am new to FF, I saw a "post" by Mr. David (Dave) Winer and now I would like to contact him, but I do not know how. I am Pat patrick.omahony@gmail.com. Is this the "
- pomahony2
@Parth-I believe this service allows you to share and discuss in a deep fashion. It also allows you to discover and learn many, many new things. Even by just going to rooms or following people, your world will open up. I think the community and depth of info here separates FF from other sites. @Patrick - if you click on some people who have posted in this thread (including myself) and...
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- Amani
Patrick, go to his feed page, find his Twitter page and contact me that way (well if you're on Twitter).
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm relatively new. Is there a way to shut off a certain person's specific feeds but not others (i.e. I want to see their blog posts but not their Flickr uploads, for example)? I'm assuming they haven't necessarily broken them into separate lists.
- YieldBuild-Jason Menayan
Jason - hide an item, then click "hide other items like this one". You'll get choices about what to hide for a single person or service for everyone.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Hutch - sweet, thanks!
- YieldBuild-Jason Menayan
Wow, look at all the cool new people, awesome!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Welcome everyone! :)
- Mona Nomura
Took me minute to wrap my head around its value--now I'm kinda hooked.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
If only I understood what "doing our best to support you as a community" means
- bcultral
It means we don't know how to welcome you and answer your questions if you don't 1) say hello and 2) ask a question when you have it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Jesse - What's your first question?
- Amani
good response...What can I do to introduce a open portal software design that will bring live video social networking to the pc/tv/phone convergence? With tvs being built with a wi-fi chip and white space opening up under new FCC rulings? I have been trying to find a listening ear to this social enterprise...
- bcultral
Hello
- bcultral
I am one those "unknown" persons seeking to make a difference
- bcultral
a prototype has been built
- bcultral
For those new to friendfeed I put together a video that will help you discover its features: http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for reminding me that I am already subscribed to the profound info source at ScobleizerTv..@bcultral :)
- bcultral
Robin - your question is a bit complex. We must be patient to get a proper answer.
- Amani
I am best friends with patience..I.know her/him well...thanks, I am encouraged...really
- bcultral
As others commented I'm not "new" in ff but I still try to figure out how to best take advantage of it. I am extremely attracted to the all-in-one, rich-media concept. It will be interesting to see how it complements/competes with twitter.
- Maurice Politis
I'm pretty new and I like it, but it's hard to keep up with. Sometimes I worry that I'm intruding on someone's conversation or something like that. I guess that's why it's here, though.
- Amy Boyack
I had FF account for a year but have not used it much until Scoble passionately endorsed it over Twitter. I like the aggregated feature and threaded discussion. I'll use it more often.
- Gee Ekachai
Hi welcome all new comers ... lets keep this thread "bacon free " please , all kidding aside .. if anyone needs help , I'll do my best to help .
- johnpiercy
Hi, I joined both FF and Twitter a few months back and although I've got the Twitter bug but not really 'got' FF yet but I'm kind to play with it and meet people.
- Steve Sponder
I'm relatively new to FF (joined in March, but came back last month) - with Twitter I had people who I knew personally and could grow my network and join conversations; seems a little harder to find followers on FF; maybe it's just me following too many big fish and not knowing smaller groups since my Twitter crowd (mostly storage industry) isn't here
- Stuart Miniman
I am also new to FF. When/if I write a message - how can I see if - IF - anyone has answered it? Thanks.
- pomahony2
If you are new to FriendFeed here is a nice conversation started by @jowyang
- frank barry
I'm new to FF. I'm trying to get the hang of it.
- Romey Louangvilay
Is there any way to find FF users by subject or interest?
- Internet Strategist
Both Fox and CNN's Twitter accounts were hacked: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... has the news.
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So was Patrick Scoble's (Seriously, I got one ?!)
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie: Patrick was phished, not hacked.
- Robert Scoble
And mine too
- Thomas Power
Interested to know your thought's on a scamming plot in the making: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- CannonGod
Not good at all. This will really force Twitter to tighten up on their security quick.
- Rob Cairns
More at http://blog.twitter.com/2009...
- Atul Arora
It's not just phishing. Someone got into the goods. http://blog.twitter.com/2009...
- Victor Ganata
Holy, this is big.
- Rutger Blom
guessing the tools had stuff like - id: admin, pw: password or somesuch nonsense. The guys at Twitter need to pick it up a notch.
- Dave Hodson
Robert - Kinda figured .... but wanted to be sure you knew. Incredible stuff.
- Charlie Anzman
In these unpredictable times, sooner or later something was going to happen in high profile cyberspace. Speaking from a practical, long term perspective, glad Twitter gets to learn from this now. As for a credibility hit to the seriousness of Twitter? Not concerned about that, at this time. If this happened repeatedly, maybe, but a one time thing, can happen to anyone. Two steps forward, one step back, and we move forward again, and hope for the best.
- Scott M Iseman
I read here that Obama's was hacked, too: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2009...
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Obama has to give up his devices soon...I would think his being hacked would invoke national security to investigate...
- bcultral
Hmm... would be a great excuse to say anything, then say, "no wait, I was hacked!" afterwards. Of course, you'd need to look like an idiot for falling for a phishing attack, but still...
- Ciaoenrico
FriendFeed Isn’t Dying, Although It’s a Nice Line - http://www.inquisitr.com/14164...
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Igor Poltavskiy, Kamilah Gill, Jemm and 29 other people liked this
Interesting perspective, but if you're right and FriendFeed is about to undergo significant growth in the next 12 months, are they prepared to capitalize on this in a business sense? Remember that the reason Louis wrote his post was because of a perception (real or imagined) that FriendFeed doesn't have a marketing strategy.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Ontario, all of that was true for Twitter to some degree as well. I just really believe that it's too early to judge, particularly with a concept that is new as well, as Twitter was to some extent. I'm also sick to death of people using Compete for stats; we live in a global market, not a US one.
- Duncan Riley
Twitter has become a Spam Hive while Twitter Gestapo censoring people.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Note my post used both Quantcast and Compete, and Quantcast went first.
- Louis Gray
FriendFeed Connect anyone ? Since FriendFeed can't gather non-public feeds (at least currently)
- Sumit Chachra
Noted, and fair, on using Compete for U.S. statistics vs. getting the global picture. I am taking a broader interest in Friendfeed. Checking out Comscore and Quantcast to help round out the picture.
- Scott M Iseman
@Sumit Chachra - I Like the idea (pun semi-intended). I suggested that they support OpenID ages ago, either as as a provider, or as a consumer, if it makes a difference.
- Tyson Key
What I've noticed is that friendfeed.com has become the number one referral to my blog. Considering that the previous number one referral was googleblog.blogspot.com, that's pretty impressive!
- Piaw Na
I haven't tweeted in nearly two weeks now, and without regret.
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I'm starting to slow my tweets and increase my FFeed activity, too. How have you supplemented the lack of DM or sending messages (ie, @jowyang I'm starting to...)?
- Matt Albiniak
why not publish your FriendFeed activity to Twitter? You've got a very large following on Twitter and if they saw that the conversation is here, you'll likely help grow FriendFeed (your hiatus brought me here). Or are Louis and Robert in charge of all FriendFeed recruitment?
- Stuart Miniman
Stuart's comment makes a lot of sense - easy to setup cross post from FF (Tools menu) to Twitter.
- Scott Loftesness
Because I have nothing better to do than speculate on Jeremiah's position, I'd assume #2 in "How I do NOT use Twitter" (from http://poprl.com/At9) might answer that question.
- Matt Albiniak
I was just going to say the same for Stuart. You can mirror your native Friendfeed items to Twitter. Just do it.
- Louis Gray
Twitter's not dead, but it's too mainstream though. FriendFeed just rocks.
- imabonehead
Sounds like one of those cigarette personal achievements, "Haven't had a puff in two weeks!"
- Hutch Carpenter
I support feeding Twitter with your FriendFeed activities.. You're a Twitter star anyway.. and I enjoy your tweets..
- Pico Seno
why?
- orionstarr
How can you desert Twitter--it's really the world-wide-web in real time.
- PhilTaylor
Matt's correct, these tools have different purposes, and therefore different uses.
- Jeremiah Owyang
me too
- Thomas Power
Did I just win a t-shirt or something?
- Matt Albiniak
why don't you just have your FF comments automatically sent to Twitter. Kills two birds with one stone.
- Waynette Tubbs
I continue to be more objective to building momentum on Friendfeed. But, not enough people and companies know about it, or are taking advantage of it, at this time. Looking at the numbers (REF: www.compete.com), I see 556,641 users for November, but there was a monthly drop (Nov 08) in growth, by -12.6%. Not sure why. In defense of Twitter, I believe we're seeing the rise of a global...
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- Scott M Iseman
Change.gov : New challenges, new opportunities | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team - http://change.gov/newsroo...
"Correction on my earliar comment. The correct spelling would be "America"."
- Scott M Iseman
Change.gov : New challenges, new opportunities | Change.gov: The Obama-Biden Transition Team - http://change.gov/newsroo...
"Thank you for this opportunity to comment my 2009 goals. As we move into the early days of your new administration, my goals are evolving daily, but here's what I feel good about now: 1.) Inspired by Web 2.0 innovator Tim O'Reilly's comment "Work on Stuff That Matters", keep goals and priorities focused on what will help my business drive positive change for both Amercia and the global community. 2.) Look for constructive and positive opportunities to help drive discussion and debate to generate new ideas and innovation. 3.) Help do my part to heal (where possible, and non arrogantly) "Anti-Americanism" where it may be found around the world. This is becoming a very big cause for me. 4.) Actively look for signals or messages from the Obama/Biden administration that I can share with friends, family, clients, community to help them identify new perspectives and opportunties. 5.) Do my part to help crack open the possibilities for Web 2.0 / 3.0 and the eco-green movement."
- Scott M Iseman
What is most under-reported tech story of 2008? Microsoft building Facebook competitor is one. Others, discuss:
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I think this went under-reported because no one wants to use Microsoft SaaS's anymore.
- Workstir
Does anyone have a link to a story about the FB competitor?
- Miles
How about Intuit building a PaaS offering? With millions of Users, tons of Data, and anchor tenants (QuickBooks, TurboTax, Quicken) we will be a significant player :-) (totally guilty of full-on bias as I work for Intuit Partner Platform)
- Alex Chriss
Miles: it is under-reported. I am working on one.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe not enough people knowing about, or utilizing Friendfeed. Statistics for "Friendfeed" (November 2008). 566.641 visitors. Down -12.6 in growth. But, 1 year growth was 4056.7%. (Ref: www.compete.com). I see the value in Friendfeed, but this is an intellectual gathering, in a very fast paced "chunk news" world. Maybe a broader selling point of Friendfeed could be for leaders and...
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- Scott M Iseman
This: http://friendfeed.com/e..., this: http://friendfeed.com/e..., this: http://friendfeed.com/e..., or this: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mark Trapp
Alex: yes, that applies!
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: You talking TownSquare? http://www.infoworld.com/article...
- AJ Kohn
I wonder if that will be as successful as Yahoo's Facebook competitor?
- Paul Buchheit
AN: no, I am talking about live.com and how microsoft has added nearly every feature of facebook to its 240 million msn messenger users.
- Robert Scoble
Based on Intuit's past offerings and customer abuses, I am not even watching for this -- Just my biased as a screwed user who threw their finger and walked away from the abuse.
- Robert Miller
@Robert: First time on Friendfeed - you finally converted me - thank you! - and if you ever want a look at what we're doing at Intuit, ping me. I run the Partner Platform
- Alex Chriss
@Robert: Interesting. I'll look for your write up. Could it be that they're simply designing for a future collaboration instead of a competition?
- AJ Kohn
Microsoft had a social networking platform they just closed called Wallop: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Doug Lawrence
@Alex: Welcome to FriendFeed.
- Robert Miller
AJ: no. Microsoft is going after Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
Google Native Client (NaCl). When they came out with Chrome, people were like "OMGWTFBBQ it's an operating system that will destroy Windows!!!111" when in fact it was just a browser. But when Google released a cross-platform runtime that has the potential to render the operating system *irrelevant*, it was greeted with a tremendous yawn by comparison. Very few people seem to understand the ramifications.
- Karim
@Robert: You sound ... certain. You have sources? Feel free to DM if you like. I'm interested because I think the only way Facebook gets out of things alive is by becoming a portal and leveraging search revenue via Live Search.
- AJ Kohn
Subsea Internet Cable Cuts and Installation of Submarine Monitoring Stations.
- Chris Clark
AJ: yes, have sources, but they will work with Facebook too. Embrace and extend.:-)
- Robert Scoble
Blackberry Bold? Android? Any smartphone that wasn't an iPhone?
- Steven Cains
رونوشت به داریوش ملکوت و مخمل
- Mil∂d
@Robert: Fascinating. Get blogging man! ;)
- AJ Kohn
Hmm, why do you say the Microsoft story was underreported? We covered the launch at VentureBeat, as did most of the other tech news sites. It kind of disappeared after that, but I'm not sure it deserved much more coverage than it got.
- Anthony Ha
Anthony: I must have missed the techmeme hype of that story. :-( I wonder how you would define underreported?
- Robert Scoble
Ha, well, here's what you missed: http://www.techmeme.com/081113... I agree that there wasn't much follow-up, so if I thought this was a big story I'd agree that it was underreported. But nothing I saw made me think this was a huge deal.
- Anthony Ha
I read it too..not noteworthy in the tech sense
- bcultral
It's interesting that the headlines always read "Microsoft goes after market X" or "Microsoft goes after competitor Y" instead of "Microsoft ships cool new product". It leaves me with the impression that the 'softies don't really care that much about what they're selling - they're not trying to ship something insanely great (to borrow a phrase from Apple), they just see other companies making money selling gadget X or application Y, and don't want to be left out.
- Pat Rice
@Pat I often find that companies, when they get large, stop innovating and start reacting to their competitors and other innovators instead. And I'm far from being the only person who has noticed this, too. Even Google isn't immune to it, although they're doing a better job than most resisting the trend.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
That analytics are so terribly flawed and how so many companies, people, etc. are completely clueless about it. Uniques mean zero without session times and repeat visitors - yet the actual internet industry/media has not even come close to reporting that way yet.
- Patricia
Lot's of acquisition activity by middleware vendors around complex event processing yet not much coverage in the tech press. I hope that changes in 09.
- Jim Posner
Interesting, never knew that Mark Hurd turned HP around, didn't seem to gain any news.
- Alvin
It would have been more widely reported if it was seen as significant. The fact that it wasn't is a story in itself and I'm glad to see you covering it.
- Greg Rollins
"...the most under-reported tech story of 2008..." is the same as in every year since 2001 ; That the 9/11 planes shown on U.S. TV had been faked. Because sheeple ignore this, we now have a recession and Obama run by SDI/Reagan/Bush/Aspen Society people.. ; Maybe u guys will figure in 2018 ; watch September Clues, 2001 a fake Oyssey, 911Octopus at...
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- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Wow. Is 9/11 Truthing the new Godwin?
- Gabe
I have absolutely nothing profound to say at this moment.
you know, if "profound" was the bar on Twitter traffic would be down by half. Or am I being too generous?
- Bill Sanders
From my perspective, I think profound is wherever it resonates. I can see your point, and know that a lot on Twitter is blurting, but I see some nuggets of profoundness. Enough to keep me intrigued.
- Scott M Iseman
The war against despair is up to you, new media - http://www.christopherspenn.com/2008...
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I like Chris, and appreciate his philosophy. But most of us are still figuring out just how deep and dark this economic crisis is. If new media is to keep its credibility moving forward it can't be used to blow smoke at people trying to make them feel better. That said, it's time to start thinking about how to help each other out long term. There are going to be a lot of unemployed and people hurt by this economic downturn. That requires a ton of innovative thinking too.
- Robert Scoble
with all due respect Chris, it's about reality - not how any media (new or old) tries to spin it.
- Chuck Boyce
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+1 Robert, +1001
- Kirill Bolgarov
Am I reading the same link that you guys are? What I read wasn't about spin or blowing smoke. What I read was a call to take responsibility as leaders - to get people to quit looking at the problem and start looking for a solution. That doesn't deny in any way deny that there is a real problem, it merely focuses the energy on efforts that will move us through this next phase of pain faster. Of course it's 1:20 AM and I've had 3 beers after a 14 hour workday, so I reserve the right to be wrong.
- Bill Sanders
Bill: the point that I was trying to make is that we're still calling in fire alarms and aren't yet able to call for much deeper help.
- Robert Scoble
And a lot of the media and portions of the business sector seem content to jam the 911 lines with false alarms, to extend the metaphor, Robert. It's up to us in the New Media to be realistic, not morbidly sensational or absurdly optimistic.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I agree with Bill (and Christopher Penn). Robert's right: there are still fire alarms yet to go off. But I can already read that on the home page of CNN, The Wall Street Journal, Google News, and a thousand other web sites. OTOH, there are a few that truly add insight, perspective and/or depth to the headlines. I think it does more good to "lead the way" than just parrot headlines. If I'm out of work, I'd rather learn how to improve my resume than hear about how many people are out of work.
- Will King
I read the same thing as Bill and appreciate Chris's point: "Despair dies in the face of confident leadership" that's exactly what's missing in the White and Congress right now - they seem to be inspiring more despair rather than stepping up to the plate and leading coherently from the front.
- Sally Church
Robert: Thanks for clarifying. I read it as a call to personal responsibility. I agree that the deeper help and rebuilding will come after the clean up. However long that takes.
- Bill Sanders
The problem with all media right now is that reporters aren't experienced enough to be talking about what's going on. 100% of those on TV are hired by their looks/performance and not necessarily by their knowledge and experience in a certain area. That we have nearly no one that can logically explain what is going should say it all. If you can't talk about what it truly means to the...
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- Patricia
Know one way not to despair? I didn't have a dime in the stock market. Too poor. Someone joked the other day, "I invest heavily in commodities, like food, and gas." But what I'm doing, and how I'm going to approach this is I'm going to find ways to equip people. I'm going to push even deeper into educating on the business applications of the tools, including when people's jobs go belly up.
- Chris Brogan
I'm not one that gets taken in by false prophets or sensationalistic journalism. Yes, this crisis is bad and there will be "casualties" - but crying about it isn't going to help the situation. The politicians are doing enough of this for us all. What I saw from Chris's post was exactly what we should always be doing - believing in ourselves and helping others where we can. I fail to see how that was "blowing smoke".
- Danny Brown
I don't think what Chris is saying is all that complicated: he's just trying to get people to realize that despair is a choice, not a fate. Regardless of how dark things get socioeconomically in the coming months/years, we're all going to have to choose our perspective. How you see things precedes how you do them. People with desperate eyes do desperate things.
- phil baumann
Chris: you'll find me doing the same as you. Helping people rebuild after a storm comes through is definitely a good role for all of us. But the storm still hasn't hit Silicon Valley yet with its full strength. That will come over the next two quarters. For me my role is to tell you how bad I see the storm being. It's not to pull back from the truth. And that's not "crying." Any more than a weatherman telling you to freaking get out of town before a storm moves in is "crying."
- Robert Scoble
It is damn hard to lead when you haven't been realistic about where the heck you are to begin with. The idea that social media can "lead" the way out of re-set of the entire financial system is laughable. This should change some of the fundamentals of how our economy works - i.e., savings rate, regulation, sound long term priorities (not making the number quarter over quarter). It isn't doom and gloom to critically assess where we are, what is coming. Leadership is what we do once we've done that.
- Brian Roy
Robert- oh I know. You're definitely on the optimistic (yet reasonably realistic) side. I mean, you've got other genetics mixed in there with that Valley living. Your post where you mentioned your brother's bar actually caught my eye. Finding those indicators like that and thinking about the downstreams of all this might be where others find an opportunity. Damn, it's a blog post I didn't want to write yet. Well, guess I have Monday ready. : )
- Chris Brogan
Brian: I don't see "social media" leading us out of anything, so there we agree. But I do hear the call to leverage all our channels of influence (including our social media tools) to help lead our way out of this mess. Obviously there will be differences in opinion on what to do and how to do it. And its a fine line to walk. Witness Robert calling it like he sees it and the angst it seems to have caused...
- Bill Sanders
I think the most important thing here is to engage in this discussion with the assumption of goodwill and do our best to understand the other person's POV. Afterall, we are (mostly) after the same things.
- Bill Sanders
I'm starting a new weekday radio show about HOPE on blogtalkradio. Starting Monday, October 13th at 3:00 PM EST. All the details are over here: http://offonatangent.blogspot.com/2008...... I'm tired of hearing all the negative talk. Join in. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/stevega... Guest call-in number: (347) 215-8647 This show will broadcast daily at 3:00, starting Monday October 13th and end on Monday November 3rd. Thanks, --Steve
- Steve Garfield
Bill: amen!
- Robert Scoble
At the risk of sounding pedantic, the fundamental difference between social media and mainstream media is that (wait for it)... it's social. If all we do with that gift is repost mainstream media reports about how bad it is, shame on us. If we can find a way to translate the social piece into action, that could help in practical ways. Here's one idea I have, which I acknowledge is vague...
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- Tom Cunniff
+1 Tom - I'll give it some thought.
- Bill Sanders
Tom: I'm holding a Twitter and FriendFeed meeting at the Half Moon Bay Ritz on Tuesday evening to do just that. Network to see where jobs are, how we can help each other as we go through this storm, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Do NOT let this economic downturn get to you. Exercise regularly, wach what you eat, and look for ways to help others. Get personally involved in outreaches to those less fortunate than you, such as the homeless. If this downturn evolves into a full blown Depression, there will be massive soup lines. Get involved in food distribution. AngelFood Ministries offers food at a significant...
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- J. D. Ebberly
In times like this. Truth is the only way we can fix things and move forward. Honest discussions are what we need from our leadership with responsible tasks that the average citizen needs to do. Need simplistic steps that we can all follow.
- Uncle CW™
@Robert, Credibility only comes from spreading doom and gloom? I don't think so. Either you're simply reporting facts or you are editorializing. If the latter, I'd prefer someone not simply ringing fire alarms.
- Howard Keziah
Hi-- I took some weekend interest in this discussion and many of your comments. First. I think the spirit of your discussion is right on, I just feel the social media movement hasn't quite figured out how to build the bridge to the next era that transcends the education factor and mass utilization barrier. It's the literate elite who really get social media and utlize. Whether the U.S....
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- Scott M Iseman
I posted the full text of this comment at http://www.acemarketingagency.com/in-the-...
- Scott M Iseman
The only thing we have to fear is ... Carrottop!
- Ernie Oporto
The future of publishing - print on demand « Scavella’s Blogsphere - http://scavella.wordpress.com/2008...
All these links. Interesting.
- Scott M Iseman
@ScottSays I tell you for all the OMG!!1!!! COMMUNIZM!!! I hear, I'm frankly worried about Nationalism.
It was a uniquely strange moment in the current era of American politics.
- Scott M Iseman
@ScottSays I only watch Nancy on The Soup, when Joel is making a quip.
I should watch the soup again. It was great when it first debuted. I was younger then.
- Scott M Iseman
U.S. Agrees to Withdraw Troops from Iraq by 2011 - http://digg.com/world_n...
"We will see."
- Scott M Iseman
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