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“Eureka - Friendfeed has added the ability to include multiple administrators in rooms. Who'd like to put their hand up? Scott I've upgraded you as per our initial conversation, but don't feel obligated. I think it's just valuable to have more than one person with keys to drive the bus :)”
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Hi Mike. Just noticed your comment. Glad FriendFeed has added this. As I said, I'm happy to "have a set of keys" - although please feel free to take them back off me at any time ;-) - Scott O'Raw
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[Simpsons' Helen Lovejoy voice] Won't someone PLEASE think of the children [/Simpsons' Helen Lovejoy voice] - Scott O'Raw
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Robert Scoble posted an entry on Scobleizer -- Tech geek blogger
Working on something new
June 5 at 7:32 am - Link
Look forward to the new show - Andrew Smith
It seems like FastCompany tv is looking/sounding a lot like a traditional video/tv production company -sets, shows, producers, sponsors, schedules. Is this deliberate? An acceptance that that model is a good model? Any insight Robert? (this isn't criticism just curiosity) - Brian Sullivan
Speed is incredibly important these days so getting the message out fast is important. This is why traditional publishers are investing in new methods of communicating with their audience. - Ralph Poole via twhirl
Brian: some shows need much better production values than a cell phone, especially when a sponsor is paying for us to do a live show. But, yes, this is a very traditional model. It'll be interesting to see which one works better. At least no one will be able to complain about my audio quality or camera work. :-) - Robert Scoble
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Scott O'Raw commented on a blog post on Disqus
Re: Scoble – a one channel radio station of white noise
June 5 at 5:46 am - Link
"woah, I must have missed that one, Paul (thankfully). It's appalling that nonsense of this nature gates disseminated by someone who claims to act as a filter - where's the filtering here? And while we're at it, there should be a retraction from Robert that either a) he was taken in by this or b) he was in on the act - which if it is the latter, is, to my mind, utterly reprehensible." - Scott O'Raw
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Quote: "Scoble, I have no idea who you are, but I have heard your named mentioned more times than my mother's name in the past week. Do you give out free money?"
June 5 at 1:19 am - Link
don't hate the playa, hate the game... - john conroy
But what when tha playa brings 3000 new balls to the game EVERY HALF HOUR! - Slippy Lane
Howard is my hero - Marco
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Steven Hodson posted an entry on WinExtra
Scoble – a one channel radio station of white noise
June 5 at 12:32 am - Link
just commented on your blog but copy/pasting here: A fine, well judged analysis. Robert said something to me via Twitter recently regarding Twitter's recent problems. I suggested that, collectively, we should consider taking it easy on Twitter as it is, after all is said and done, a free service. Robert replied that it it wasn't, in fact, a free service as he paid for it in his attention. As Robert put it; "My time isn't free. Is yours?" It struck me as a curious way of looking at things, but not an approach that I would necessarily dismiss out of hand. However, if this is a model of "commerce" that he finds validity in then I think it's something Robert should do well to remember i.e. we are all paying for Robert by OUR attention and we expect a decent ROI with less supercilious 'downtime' . - Scott O'Raw
Well written Steven. Robert will probably enjoy it to be at the center of this one ;) In general I'm thinking that there is only one relevant filter of information and that is the user himself. I have serious doubts that the mass on the Internet even remotely feels the pressure of noise. Why? Because they aren't into this rat race of wanting to know everything first and then echo about it. Chose the people and sources you wish to follow carefully and the noise disappears instantly. - Alexander van Elsas
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We can still discover new things by trying out different sources, but unfollowing is more important than following. If you hit a source of noise (it's personal), then get rid of it. If the noise helps you discover new signal, well, deal with it. I'd rather not use algorithms too much, because they tend to flatten out the world, letting us all hear the same things. Having said all this, I realize I use Google on a daily basis ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Well said Alexander! We share the same opinion on filters, and how the user and I mean the lambda-user, should be the center of content filtering. As I already said, Popularity of the content is the perversion of interest. It's not because something gets popular (by any mean) that it has to be significant for "me". Thus no algorithm that doesn't explicitly consults me on my needs will be able to filter content for me. Maybe people will be interested by our thread http://friendfeed.com/e/37cf27... - directeur
But as I already said: It's up to them :) - directeur
Commented in blog, dude. - Mark Dykeman
Random thought: In one respect, social networks do not distinguish between A-listers and listers of any other letter. Thus, the feed from Scobleizer has no more, or no less, validity than All Things Jennifer. Both are different, and both are interesting. I wonder, however, about the average Twitter user with only ten followers; if you only have a few people in your network, perhaps you should only have personal friends. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
@Alexander I definitely agree that this problem is more of an early adopter problem and that the typical web traveller probably won't even consider this discussion anything more than just plain silly. - Steven Hodson
For a minute there I thought you were talking about what we're doing at http://www.fastcompany.tv (live show starts in a few minutes). I'm also broadcasting at http://www.kyte.tv/scobleizer and have a chat room there. - Robert Scoble
@OE it might be interesting if one could assign a importance value to those in our various "friends" lists so that one's near the top would bubble to the surface faster than those at the bottom. As such let's say I gave you and Alexander a higher value than Robert. I would still get Robert's input but anything from you or Alexander would automatically place higher then Robert the moment either of you posted something. Just a thought. - Steven Hodson
Robert does produce a prodigious volume. But his S/N ratio is still much higher than most bloggers/posters/producers. Even when the ratio slips sometimes the quality of the signal is so high that not listening means you are missing a lot. Others I turn off or on occasionally when their spew gets annoying (Winer, Arrington are examples) but so for I have never tuned out Scoble for even a day. Of course this is always one of those YMMV issues. - Brian Sullivan
@Brian I agree with you concerning Robert's S/N ration but I find that in FF at least I still see the more important "signals" of his via the "Friends of Friends" option so I don't *need* to be subscribed to him. Previously I was a follower on Twitter but the noise got to be too much. His blog (and link blog) I have always subscribed to except for one very short period when *everything* was video related and I wasn't interested. Like you said though YMMV - Steven Hodson
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Scott O'Raw commented on a blog post on Disqus
Re: Scoble – a one channel radio station of white noise
June 5 at 1:45 am - Link
"Hi Steve, A fine, well judged analysis. Robert said something to me via Twitter recently regarding Twitter's recent problems. I suggested that that, collectively, we should consider taking it easy on Twitter as it is, after all is said and done, a free service. Robert replied that it it wasn't, in fact, a free service as he paid for it in his attention. As Robert put it; "My time isn't free. Is yours?" It struck me as a curious way of looking at things, but not an approach that I would necessarily dismiss out of hand. However, if this is a model of "commerce" that he finds validity in then I think it's something Robert should do well to remember i.e. we are all paying for Robert by OUR attention and we expect a decent ROI with less supercilious 'downtime'." - Scott O'Raw
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Jeremy Toeman posted a message
“FriendFeed experiment: I am going to temporarily unsubscribe from the "top 12" on my page (Taylor, Pirillo, Winer, Wilson, Calacanis, Laporte, LeMeur, Mashable, Arrington, Buchheit, Scoble, Beale) to see (1) who my new top 12 are, and (2) the difference in content i see!”
June 4 at 8:02 am - Link
btw - no offense to you guys, I still subscribe to your content through other means! - Jeremy Toeman
Looking forward to the outcome here, I added many people from jowang's post (http://www.web-strategist.com/...) and my view has changed quite a bit. - Ben Hedrington
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I answered on your blog that you should subscribe to this feed: http://friendfeed.com/scobleiz... because that's who I'm reading. Then you should follow everyone on that feed who you like. Only THEN should you unsubscribe from me. That will provide you with some new voices, since I have thousands of inbound people that you probably don't know. - Robert Scoble
Let us know what you find. - Hutch Carpenter
Interesting experiment. Of course, if you're still showing "friends of friends" stuff, you may see no difference whatsoever (other than the "friend of X" in parentheses after the names). - Tony Ruscoe
Awesome idea, I've contemplated the same. Looking forward to the results - Shey
ainst Scoble's friends, but I don't want control over who's feed I'm getting. - Rudy Amid via twhirl
Ok, Twhirl messed up. Last message was: anyone know how to turn off "Friends of Friend" setting in FF? - Rudy Amid via twhirl
@robert - nice idea, but i just dont have that kind of time... i already subscribed to a bunch of FoF's... - Jeremy Toeman
I've done the same but that hasn't lessened the Scobleverse Effect :) - Steven Hodson
I am a social media fungus. I get in all the cracks! :-) - Robert Scoble
Whew! For a second there I thought Hawk might have just gotten the Jeremy Toeman axe. - Thomas Hawk
I took out a couple heavy hitters and it's slowed down the river, but I still see (hopefully) the most interesting bits since so many people I'm friends with like/comment on their posts. Let me know how your experiment goes! http://is.gd/r4F - felix
I am thinking of declaring Plurk a "Scoble-free" zone. - Robert Scoble
You're leaving Robert? - directeur
@Rudy - If you click the "Hide" link, you'll then see a link for More Options. Click that and one of the options will be "Hide Friends of Friends." It's lame and should be more visible (as Thomas Hawk mentioned 8 minutes ago). - Justin Korn
I did it on twitter for a while. the problem with deleting A-List is that they do serve a purpose. We do need them to orchestrate other people. Problem is that they have failed in that purpose. Blaming the technical problems in twitter or any social network is a diversion to the real issue which is we need to hold our A-Lister accountable. don't unsubscribe. Drive Taylor, Pirillo, Winer, Wilson, Calacanis, Laporte, LeMeur, Mashable, Arrington, Buchheit, Scoble, Beale out out of their mind. - Noah David Simon
we are already out of our minds. You can't make it any worse. :-) - Robert Scoble
What I humbly think : http://blog.feedego.com/2008/0... - directeur
Be sure to let us know how that goes! - Cyndy
don't test me Scoble. You don't know what I am capable of. We need to make the Alist involved. Make them take sides, give opinions. Too many of these guys would make best friends with President Mahmouhd Ahmenajad. These guys need their diplomacy on a leash. I'm not talking about Iran. I'm talking about Amanda Chapel. These guys are popular cuz they would toss Charles Manson's salad. - Noah David Simon
How much of the A-list content are you still getting because of the trickle-through effect? - Eric Hamilton
Maybe 40%? It' actually made FF even more useful for me, as I'm finding things that are very interesting, yet still get the majority of mainstream tech news from here + techmeme... - Jeremy Toeman
It is now June 17th and I just found this conversation. I was on the road for the first 8 days, but this conversation has legs. - Russellreno
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Colin Walker posted a message
“Going to conduct an experiment: sign up a separate FF account and behave like a 'user' rather than a geek to see what I can get out of it when outside of the echo chamber.”
June 4 at 8:51 am - via fftogo - Link
Its going to be hard to change your mindset. - David Risley
will your user profile subscribe to your geek profile? Would one bleed through into the other? This is really interesting stuff, let us know how it all goes! - Iain Baker
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David - I agree but I think it's something worth trying to gain some perspective and a different point of view - Colin Walker via fftogo
But what will you read then? - Cyndy
@Cyndy - that's my question too. Colin - to whom will you subscribe? - Hutch Carpenter
The two accounts will be completely separate and the new one will focus on non-tech stuff. I'll find to subscribe to via searches - not really worked it all out yet ;) - Colin Walker via fftogo
Colin, I do understand. My initial reaction to FriendFeed wasn't exactly positive. Then it grew on me. Still noisy, but I learned to dig it. - David Risley
pseudo handles have always been around- depends what type of online personality you want that pseudo handle to take on. - Peter Dawson
possibly, to tackle David's point about changing your mindset, you could ask a non-tech friend to sign up to FriendFeed and report back to you on their experience. Sounds like a interesting experiment at any rate, Colin. - Scott O'Raw
So THAT's why I got a signup from "NotColin_ForRealz". - Louis Gray
Scary - what if we find out there's life out there? - Aviv
@Louis, hehehe - not done it yet and nothing personal but I won't be subscribing to any of the usual suspects ;) - Colin Walker
@David, my initial reaction soon after launch was similar but I attribute that to not having many 'friends' on it at the time so it didn't really click. Once I subscribed to more people the value became apparent. As for getting someone else to do it, I don't think the experience will translate as well as I would hope. We'll see what happens. - Colin Walker
please do a lessons learned write up on this - love to see your findings! - Susan Beebe
HOW I DON'T CARE !!! - directeur
I was kidding of course! read more here :) http://friendfeed.com/rooms/ho... - directeur
Hmmm, okay ;) - Colin Walker
you're a geek?? - Mary Anne Davis
'fraid so Mary - Colin Walker
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felix posted an entry on #comments
Escaping the Scobleverse
June 4 at 7:39 am - Link
you cant. as soon as your near the gates a scoble clone snipes you with a nerd nugget. - Anthony
Need to run to work but I like this thought.. very similar to the RSS Reset plan Corvida, Caleb, Jeff and I are trying out this month. - J. Phil
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J. Phil, definitely very similar, just a little less drastic! I'm not brave enough to handle the RSS Reset! @Anthony - nerd nugget. Gross! :) - felix
Good thoughts on this on felix. I don't mind being in the scobleverse because he consistently brings good stuff. But I'm constantly looking out for the other universes that pop up. I don't subscribe to a lot of the other popular guys like Arrington, Bucheit, Taylor, etc. because their good stuff is bound to pop up one way or another. - Shey
I've actually unsubscribed from Arrington and Scoble, myself. Like Shey said, you don't have to follow the popular guys to catch the good stuff - it always pops up somewhere. - Nathaniel Payne
Heh! I'm not saying it's bad to subscribe to those guys, they're big for a reason! But I'm trying to slow down my river of news a little bit so I can see some of the smaller waves. If you see what I mean! Anything big I'll get anyway via FoaF. - felix
Just to define the Scobleverse, here's a good feed: http://friendfeed.com/scobleiz... -- this is the feed of everyone I'm reading who I've "liked" and/or "commented on." I am watching thousands of people, so touch quite a few people here. To get outside of the Scobleverse you'd really need to make sure you don't follow anyone I comment on. - Robert Scoble
Trying to avoid Scoble is like trying to avoid air. He is everywhere! :) - Mike Doeff
This is fascinating - and yes absolutely no offense intended for Scoble, et. al. I suggested this with tongue-in-cheek myself a little while back on FF (http://tinyurl.com/5uj5zn). I got spanked by some echo chamberlains - tho Scoble himself agreed. - Noah Carter
I´d like to see the the definition of the new word: "to scobleize" in Wikipedia! xD - Dieter Schwarz
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to leave the scobleverse, I'm just trying to make it easier to see some neighboring universes. :) - felix
Felix: Find any intriguing non-Scoble universes yet? - Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell - well... no, if you don't count the friendfeed universe. :) but I'm still optimistic! - felix
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Alexander van Elsas posted an entry on Alexander van Elsas's Weblog on new media & technologies and their effect on social behavior
Why noise will be tackled by scaling down the social media conversation
June 4 at 6:08 am - Link
It ties in with a theme Scott O'Raw hit earlier today on FF http://friendfeed.com/e/9b227c... - Alexander van Elsas
Well said as always. As I said before, the global conversation won't go away but we will learn what is important and only focus on what we need to. - Colin Walker
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Just posted on your blog but will copy/paste here: Excellent post (as usual, damn you ;) ). Thanks for the mention. I totally agree that following people for the sake of it is an exercise in futility. Brand Scobleizer will, no doubt, thunder along regardless of what you or I say, however. - Scott O'Raw
agreed, but the problem is that there are too many good people to follow - Dobromir Hadzhiev via twhirl
@Sprague, Google fits in just like any other filtering system. It'll help you to find answers to straight forward questions like "Who is Barack Obama". But it will be much more difficult to get to a place where politically engaged people are discussing their personal views regarding the vision of Obama. Filtering or search won't help there as the amount of hits increase dramatically. - Alexander van Elsas
Scott thanks (I think ;-) ) Actually, the point isn't that we must follow less people, that is a personal choice. Robert Scoble wouldn't do that and that is fine. But in general I'm inclined to think that as millions start to participate the concpe tof having many people to follow in order to get enough signal (or noise, whichever you want) will be a strategy we can't keep up. Add the mobile aspect to the equation and we get smaller more immersed communities. Am I right?Heck I can't look into the future ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
@Dobromir that sounds like a luxury, not like a problem to me. If the people are good, the quality is good, then you would probably not experience an overflow of useless stuff right ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
whats a "social media conversation"? is it different than a "conversation"? - Jeremy Toeman
Alexander: you define yourself by who you follow. If you only follow your family, that defines you. If you follow a crowd, like I do, that defines you too. One is not necessarily better than the other, you just gotta decide for yourself what kind of inputs you want. - Robert Scoble
Robert, very true. But I'm not really talking about who to follow, that is a personal choice indeed. I just think there will be less following, but more targeted. If 1 Bln people are engaging, then there will be just too much great stuff around. Everyone, even you Robert, then will have to scale down a bit and try to reach that critical point where you can still engage meaningfully, and at the same time get the good stuff to you asap. - Alexander van Elsas
Robert, I do like your view that you define yourself by who you follow. I am guessing when the conversation becomes as big as predicted, people are bound to stat making choices and limit to some point both their own input and the "noise (love that word)" of others. Maybe our own profiling will be much more targeted, because we are then forced to make choices ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Jeremy The biggest potential difference is the scale they can reach. Social media overcomes time and space boundaries we normally have in the Physical world. Try having this conversation with 1000 people at your home ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
I already do exactly that. I don't follow everyone. Just early adopters who are interested in Tech. That is why 12000 follow me here but I am only following 2700. - Robert Scoble
Aha, someone was already asking if there were limits to the information you can handle Robert. I said I'd ask ;-) But the interesting question is, what if about 10.000 early adopters join in from China, 20.000 from India, another 10.000 from Russia, etc,etc. What would you do then? Can you elaborate on that? - Alexander van Elsas
@Alexander - will they be posting in a language Robert can read? - Hutch Carpenter
@hutch Sure, and if they don't, Google will have figured out automatic translations by then. There will be more, no matter what language - Alexander van Elsas
http://blog.kingsley2.com/2008... - Kingsley Joseph via twhirl
Pretty obvious stuff -- people at the "head" of social media (those who subscribe to hundreds of feeds and/or just the "talk show hosts" like Scoble and Pirillo) get a lot of noise while the people at the "tail" (those who subscribe just to their core circle of friends and/or trusted colleagues) get much less noise and relatively higher percentage of insight. - Lawrence Liu
Lawrence, you may be right. But that equation might not hold when millions join in. The numbers would be amazing. We all need to watch out where to join in by then. But it's certainly a much bigger problem for the early adopters. - Alexander van Elsas
It's difficult for me to contemplate FF or some other service with a billion users. But let's say it can happen. The first thing I'd think about would be the filters: they'd have to let me cut the universe of users and content pretty finely. I think you're right that we'd have to scale back. At the same time, though, I like finding unanticipated useful information in my stream. A fancy, robust filtering tool might provide both. - Tom Landini
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Scott O'Raw posted an entry on Scott O'Raw's Journal
Why The World-Wide Talk Show Doesn’t Need A Host
June 4 at 4:02 am - Link
It might not be objective journalism, but it is one of the better personal views I have been reading out here in a while. Well done Scott. As Steven Hodson once told me, I hope you have a kevlar vest at home. Steven referred to my attempt to explain to iPhone fans why it wasn't that great of a telephone, but you are taking on a web icon ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
BTW I was thinking about a post myself on the evolution of this world wide conversation, so I might tie it in with you story if I can - Alexander van Elsas
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lol @ kevlar vest. I guess I can take solace in the fact that's it's a long way to Scotland from San Francisco ;) - Scott O'Raw
The problem is he is confused. My blog is not journalism. If you expect journalism there you'll be sorely disappointed. You might see journalism there from time to time, but it's pretty rare. Mostly I'm giving you my opinion on my blog. Now, in FastCompany.tv or in the magazine? THAT is where you should expect my journalism. Here on FriendFeed? I'm a connector, noise maker, entertainer, ranter, participant, etc. - Robert Scoble
No Robert I am not confused. Whether your blog should, or even could, be held up as a journalistic endeavor is not the point of the post. As the title suggests you are holding up the current state of the internet as a 'world-wide talk show' and, by the actions I highlight in the post, expect to be treated as the host of that show. - Scott O'Raw
@Alexander: sure. I look forward to your post on the word wide conversation - Scott O'Raw
Scott: right. Like I am going to be THE ONE AND ONLY HOST of the World Wide Talk Show. That's funny. I'm kicking myself that I didn't think of it! - Robert Scoble
....and here we go again. Did I say the ONE AND ONLY? In the post I said that I only singled you out as you coined the "world wide talk show" phrase but that there were "others whose hubristic endeavors leave me just as cold" - Scott O'Raw
You just implied that four posts above this one that you were talking specifically about me being the "host" (note singular) of that show. So, who else we talking about? - Robert Scoble
@Robert yes Robert, I feel there are others who, sadly, fall into this category. My point is that it shouldn't be "The Robert Scoble Show" or anyones SHOW for that matter - that fundamentally goes against the nature of a discussion - Scott O'Raw
@Sprague: Robert DOES provide value and I wouldn't want to suggest for a moment that he doesn't - the access that Robert has will continue to provide value well into the future I'm sure. Sorry, I disagree on the Twitter thing. From what I read I think Robert did perceive that as a personal attack - and it's my assertion that he did he do so with in order to gain more attention. - Scott O'Raw
Sometimes I wish it were possible to write posts like this without actually focusing on anyone like Scoble. The trouble for me is so many of these posts wind up seeming like sour grapes over Scoble being popular on the Internet. Some of it's linkbaiting and that's fine. The truth is, as it has always been, there are LOTS of hosts -- Scott, you're one. I'm one, lots of people with blogs are one. BUT, most of us don't have thousands and thousands following us on Twitter, FriendFeed, Facebook, etc. Those who do will often have the appearance of being more the center of attention. Just the way it is. - Robert Seidman
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