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It's about frickin' time, Guy! You're the guy who handed Steve Balmer a Macbook Air as a symbol of good design and yet you've been using Twitter all this time? Either start using friendfeed or switch to using Dells. You can't have it both ways. :) - Alex Scoble

You missed out on the earlier days of FriendFeed, but then it's never too late to start using it. - imabonehead

I don't think Guy understands he can write comments to his posts, instead of new posts to conversate - Stephen Pickering

Welcome, we arent experts here but we manage to muddle through some how - Robert Higgins

Alex: Can I get a Dell through you? - Guy Kawasaki

Welcome! - Jason Huebel

If you need help, just ask. I'm a Social Media Expert! - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

Guy you just can't resist that Windows 7 can you :-) - Stephen Pickering

LOL, Guy, I've helped many a person get a Dell. :) - Alex Scoble

Oh and welcome...and now I'm going to faint...Guy Kawasaki commented on my comment on friendfeed. - Alex Scoble

I'm a social media expert, too. Like Glen. Honest. - Brett Kelly from iPhone

It's just the heat Alex :-) - Todd Hoff

Alex, YFTE: you faint too easily - Guy Kawasaki

Ah now he's gettin the hang of it ;) - BairdWilliamson

Guy, it must be the heat. ;) - Alex Scoble

Hi Guy welcome :-)) - Johni Fisher

Howdy - Rodfather

I have always wondered why a social media guru type like you would be solely on Twitter. FF offers a lot. - Stu Rich

About time! - Chris Spizzirri

Welcome. Twitter's for Quitters. Its FriendFeed indeed. Ok, I've embarrassed myself enough now. :) - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Welcome to the world of Mobs - Michael_techie

brinnnnnng it sugar!! - sofarsoShawn

Seriously? I thought you would have been lurking over here the whole time! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

As a wise FFer once said, "Welcome to the Wild Wild West" - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

hi guy - sean percival

nice work... don't know if you really need it? - Jeffrey T. Sooey

Just had to comment on Guy's first FriendFeed-originated post. I'm so excited! (yet not as excited as Alex it would seem) - Jesse Stay

Welcome, sir. - Louis Gray

Hello and welcome to FF :) - WorldofHiglet

nice to see you post here. - tomit

Welcome, indeed - Brett Kelly

welcome on board. i expect your feedback / analyse in a few weeks :-9 - Laurent65

Welcome, Guy! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Get it on! FF is just great, even for using it as a Twitter-app. - Kolja from Viigo

I use Both Twitter and FriendFeed and I'm happy with it. - Svartling from iPhone

Really! I thought you invented it ;) - Bulent Keles

Friendfeed consolidates most all of the other social networks into one feed and then echos it out to twitter also, for the masses. FF is a well developed web app! The bookmarklet and web widgets work very well. - Keith Rowland

Enjoy the ride, pun intended! - Toby Graham from iPhone

and? - Patrick Ostertag

u like it? - Alemsah Ozturk

@ahsan you surely mean Wild Wide Web ;-) - Yann Leroux from iPhone

welcome Guy. I hope you use it frequently. It will be nice to see you around here. - Ahmet Alp Balkan

@Yann, that too ;) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

at last... welcome Guy :) - Goktug Gedik

well welcome to friendfeed Guy! - (jeff)isageek

Yes Welcome Guy, it's a good thing! - Allen Harkleroad

After twitter of course again Guy :) welcome :) waiting for your great comments and sharings :) - Taylan Demirkaya

How do you like it? - Randy Allen Bishop

collectors item.. :-) - John Serra

And that sums up FF"s problem: you can have a presence on it without ever being actually present. - Ian Betteridge

but being present w/o watching/reading along to see comments makes it kind of a waste - Susan Reynolds from twhirl

This is literally the first time I've read a post by Guy Kawasaki made directly on friendfeed. - Slappy Line

Most excellent, welcome. Literally. - DGentry

and it's about time.....! :) - Charlie Anzman

wait, so this whole time the alltop twitterati were chosen by...who? - David

I really didn't notice much because your twitter feed is included on my FF list - so its like you were already a FF user. - Chris Jackson

Welcome! Check out ways to sync content here back to Twitter (bookmarks, google reader, etc) but also network in here :-) - Courtney Engle from iPhone

Welcome Guy. Hope to see more from you in FF.. - Murat Buyurgan from iPhone

Welcome aboard! - funkyboy from iPhone

Welcome. Let's knock of twitter ! - Krishnamoorthy

Welcome to the feeding frenzy! Just wait till you discover Micah's great tools. :-D http://friendfeed.com/ffhacks - April Russo (app103)

congrats Guy! I think you'll like it :) - Glenn Hilton

This is """literally""" the first time I commented on your feed. As always, welcome to new users such as yourself. Self + for my improper use of air qoutes. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com from iPod

Welcome. - Pete Delucchi from iPhone

as you can see, it is comment oriented. We expect you to read comments and reply. - denizoktar

Welcome!!! Big hugs for u!!!! <3 - Magdalena Day

Aloha! - Lisa Duhamel

that's funny. - DanielthePoet

Glad you have you on FF. Welcome! - Chris Gardner

Welcome, Guy- make sure to leave the door open behind you, there's a nice breeze!... - Thom Kennon

Guy has anyone told you you look like Jet Li. Do you do any wushu by any chance ? :P - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

welcome to the dark side. we have conversations here ;) - BEX

Where have you been? Great service here, hope to see you around more. - jcunwired

No turning back now. The only question is what took so long? - Jim Goldstein from iPhone

WOW! welcome dude! - Jason Pollock

you are going to love it here! watch out! Its great to have u here! - Jason Pollock

Welcome, you'll have a lot of work to do setting things up but once you do you will realize it is an awesome tool! - Brian

Yeah, FF rocks! - Janice

Welcome Guy! Please introduce yourself. j/k - AJ Batac

Welcome aboard. Enjoy your new status (AKA: Friendfeeder). - Nir Ben Yona

Finally :) - Ozkan Altuner

Guess you passed the 'new adopters' torch. Welcome to the jungle~ - Liza

woohoooo! stick around :) - Frankie Warren

Guy, at least you don't have someone posting for you like other "celebrities" ;-) Good on you sir! - ChangeForge | Ken Stewart

@Guy - welcome! FF is a great place to follow discussions and threads. - Valeria Maltoni

welcome to FriendFeed Guy! - MB Linder

Welcome :) - Fatih Küçükbaltacı

It can be crazy at first but it's more robust than something like Twitter IMO - David LaMorte

The water's fine, come on in ;) - Clare Dibble

Welcome Guy... - Mitchell Tsai

Welcome. Add some more stuff to your feed so we can really get to know you. - Amani

I beg to differ: http://friendfeed.com/guykawa... - Edward Zwart

Except Ed, it was via the bookmarklet, not directly into ff like this one... - Janice

congratulations! - Steve Borgman

welcome on board :) - Muge Cerman

Welcome aboard! FF rocks! - dhamza

welcome to 2009 ;) - Lee

Dive in, the water is churning! - LauraLee Dooley

Welcome to the party Mr. Kawasaki. - David Damore

Bit late in the day aint ya? :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Guy, are you paying someone to write this for you? - Joe

lmao @ J Deakins. :o) - Rob Sellen :o)

Better late than never! - Donna Payne

A marketing master - cool ; ) - Mark Harai

welcome - Jeremiah Owyang

Come on in, the water is fine! - Sean Powell

Howdy! - Jesse P. Luna

Welcome - Peter Kelley

Welcome Guy - Jose Luis Santos

I think you'll like it, Guy. Just stay away from that Robert Scoble character and you'll be fine ;) - dougcoleman

ようこそ、FFへ。コメントしないと！と思いまして、コメントしました。 - Carloe Stamp

Welcome aboard. - Richard Leiter from iPhone

Invading FF now are ya? It is obvious everyone is excited about your entrance. Love ya on Twitter! - Brady

This was so 20 hours ago, I'm no longer excited. - Geoff Schultz

I only hope this results in something positive. Welcome, etc. - Evil Librarian

Great More EGO's here - johnpiercy

Interaction is good! :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

@Janice oic - Edward Zwart

It's about time! :P - Joel Lovato

Meh. ya rookie! - Robert Kenney

me too.. don't know what i'm doing. - leslie mills

about damn time - Brian Appleby

let the addiction begin - Monique

twitter not enough visuals and too much clicking , i love ff! - Wsvdesign

Funny thread and yes I read it! - Myrna

Poor Myrna must be bored everyone pile into her feed and entertain her! - Geoff Schultz

I'm listening to Howard Dean and Bill Frist discuss Healthcare on Charlie Rose after hearing John Bolton on Jon Stewart destroy my mood about Iran, nuclear and WW3 - Myrna

War is soooooo 20th century. They need to get with it. - Geoff Schultz

You know there are always laggards. - Myrna

you'll get addict'd - Goktug Okan Oguz

Don't worry Guy - you can spam links in here too :) haha, I mean welcome to Friendfeed :) - Brian Wallace

Welcome! - Fer Isella

Next you're going to tell us that you switched to Mac last month - adam garrett

about time...welcome to FF! - Freddie Benjamin

Welcome here, maybe it takes people like you to bring the finesse of FriendFeed to the world! (can't let @scobleizer do all the work on his own, can you?) - Ruud van Wijngaarden

now figure a way to have my friendfeed autopost alltop content, maestro! - adam garrett

I was slow too :-) - Marco Raaphorst

hi! who are you? - Terry O'Fee from BuddyFeed

welcome - Jacob

logically that's impossible, because i follow you on FF for quite a while now. - adam garrett

@llort threadkill, not directly on FF, over twitter or somthing else - Muge Cerman

congrats :D - eci

have you ever tried siberalem.com ? :) - Yalcin Parmaksiz

That is classic! I actually just got started a little over a week ago myself. - Chris Denker

I'm with ya.... just started this afternoon. So far, so good. :) - Ben Daugherty

late to the conversation, but I do notice that this appearance by Guy was only a cameo *sigh* - Susan Beebe

What take you so long ? - TiTi

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Bicycle helmets were designed to save lives, I don't care how good you think you are wear a helmet no matter your age or ability please!

July 25 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum, Appetite

MyNameisE (http://mynameise.com) now has Friendfeed integration - which means if you're both signed up to mynameise.com and have friendfeed accounts...the moment you exchange cards, you'll automatically become friends on here too.

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For those of who haven't heard of it...MyNameisE is really the future of exchanging business cards. You just share your own MyNameIsE account and you become friends across all the social networks you've made public. - Zee.

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Swapping business cards is not an indication of friendship (or intent therof). But otherwise, its a great idea. - Roberto Bonini

@Roberto agreed, but you have different business cards for different people...as many as you like i believe - Zee.

Similar (better) than Chimp.me? - Marcos

@Marcos does Chimp automatically make you friends across all your social media when you add each other on there? Genuine question...not rhetorical :) - Zee.

@zee thanks for sharing :o) pretty awesome - Aline Ohannessian

@Zee, I have no idea, but I don't think it does ;) I (shamefully) admit to only joining Chimp.me because of the invites hype, but never got any real interest in it. The services seems similar, thou; and that was the intention of my question. Are they? MyNameIsE is better? Anyway, my question was partially genuine partially rhetorical :) - Marcos

http://www.mynameise.com/loucyph... although I prefer DandyID http://www.dandyid.org/id... - LouCypher

@Marcos: no it's different. On chi.mp (not chimp.me), you can do lifestreaming, mini-blogging, contacts organizing, etc. as well as OpenID provider and email forwarding. - LouCypher

Shame. No microformats. And why the heck they don't use semantically nice tags? <address> for eg. ? - directeur

I'd say, MyNameisE is similar with http://dandyid.org/, http://unhub.com/, and http://start.io/ - LouCypher

... and directeur's http://www.socialwhois.com/ sorry I forgot :p - LouCypher

Oh no problem LouCypher ! Thanks for the mention :) - directeur

I pass my virtual biz card out everyday. It’s Internet-based and instantly updatable. There are Blackberry and iPhone apps that allow for direct calls to whichever telephone number I choose at that instant (to be followed by similar apps for other platforms). It’s simple and cheap. There are built in privacy levels so some people get more contact info than others. This virtual business card is my last name. Followed by .tel - A Mitchell

Live4Emma (L4S)

AWWWWWW - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

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x_x - Live4Emma (L4S) from Bookmarklet

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cuuuuuuuuute!!! x_x - Anna Haro

OMG >>dies<< - rowlikeagirl

that puppy dialed cute to 11 - Geoff Schultz

ahhh so cute - Kim Landwehr

I have enough pets, and have spent the last three years raising separate puppies. Suddenly I want to go through it all again. - jcunwired

I hear ya jcunwired.... - Live4Emma (L4S) from iPhone

most baby animals are cute (some cuter than human babies, to most of us, if we look at it without cultural pressure. eg: ducklings, puppies, kittens etc.)- i wonder if that is also an evolutionary effect that helps the survival of species (species with not-cute-to-humans babies more likely to be wiped out by humans than species with cute-to-humans babies) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Babies have full sized eyes, so proportionally they are large. It's a thing that makes people go "Aaaaw, I want to take care of it!" and it applies to most fuzzy things we see. Puppies get extra adorable points because their paws are out of proportions (based on full grown size) and their ears. *steals puppy for much snuggling* - Heather

It needs my kisses!!!! Come here baby..awwwwwwwwwwwwww.... - Bash

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Awesome fireworks! - Nia

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WOW Carlos, AMAZING stuff here -- best firework captures I've seen in a while! - Nicholas Kreidberg

Very nice, Carlos! - Scotty Perkins

Great Fireworks pictures:) - Rob Cairns

great shots - (jeff)isageek

Despite the trees, I think these came out pretty awesome! - Justin Korn

Steve Rubel

Why Your Email Inbox Is NOT a Good To-do List - http://zenhabits.net/2009...

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iPhone 3G speed performance compared in 13 U.S. cities [PIC] - http://androgeek.com/2009...

July 1 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

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Pretty clear that ATT lags Verizon almost everywhere especially in NYC and SF - Alan Morris

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Blogging Is Still the Foundation In A World of Streams - http://www.louisgray.com/live... tip @techmeme - http://www.louisgray.com/live...

Blogging Is Still the Foundation In A World of Streams - http://www.louisgray.com/live/2009/06/blogging-is-still-foundation-in-world.html tip @techmeme

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Good points! This also relates to http://dipot.com/2009..., where I argue that posts usually have a "given" destination according to content, size, timing etc. - Alexandros Georgiadis

Zee. to Zee.'s feed, TheNextWeb Forum

The Twitter Time Traveler - Best pair of tweets i've ever seen! Genius! - http://thenextweb.com/2009...

June 27 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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seriously genius. - Zee.

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i rarely do this, but i'm bumping this one - its just the best online thing i've seen this weekend - Zee.

Inventive. Good fun end to the weekend. - Conor Ogle

oh crap... - J. Abdul-Qahhar

Seriously funny, thank you Zee - Rasmus Lauridsen

oh i'm glad everyone appreciates this just as much as i did :) Bloody fantastic stuff...hope he's got a heap of new followers - Zee.

Oh no, now he's going to start getting Time Travel Spam: http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/timetra... - Michael R. Bernstein

Mike Bracco to Mike's feed, building43, TheNextWeb Forum, Appetite, RWW: The Future of Tech

What are your top 3 favorite paid online subscription services? Mine are Evernote Premium, Lynda.com and Pandora One.

June 26 - Comment - Like - Share

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Mine: Evernote, Skype and Last.fm - Leandro Ardissone ⍨ from IM

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I think currently NOD32 & Netflix are only online services I pay for - LANjackal

Netflix - chrisofspades

Evernote and Pandora definitely....I would add flickr pro to that - Freddie Benjamin

oh, and flickr.. there are more than 3 - Leandro Ardissone ⍨ from IM

I only pay for last.fm, netflix, and flickr. - ·[▪_▪]·

The only subscriptions I have are Netflix, Gamefly, and XMRadio. Not sure you'd call any of them online services, though. I'll probably renew flickr when I can more cash flow, though. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Remember the milk, Flickr and Mvelopes. I've been thinking about upgrading to Pandora One but haven't done it yet. - Ward Seward

Spotify! - Lasse Johnsen

Netflix, Pandora & Wall Street Journal - Jay Clark

Evernote (can't live without it) - petes2cents.com

Rapidshare, remember the milk, evernote, mobile.me, last.fm ... - Ugur Aydogdu (jnbn)

ehm.. let add: rapidshare, mobile.me, (a seedbox), and lastpass - Leandro Ardissone ⍨ from IM

Evernote, Mozy, and Flickr - Matt

Evernote, Remember the Milk and Flickr - Brett Kelly

Also Evernote, Mozy and Flickr. - Oliver Bouchard

Evernote Premium, Dropbox (50GB), and MindMeister - Jim Tierney

Flickr. - Morton Fox

Evernote, Jungle Disk, You Mail, Flickr ,Skype, Netfilx - metalerik

I only have one: reqall. - Jim Iz Not on Ur List

Mozy, Flickr, Github, Amazon (S3, EC2, SQS), Rackspace CloudFiles, Jungledisk - Berk D. Demir

Cecily: Love Backblaze! - been using it for a couple months. Best Mac online backup solution - IMHO. - Mike Bracco

MobileMe, Flickr, Google Web Storage (10GB extra/year), SpanningSync, DropBox, DreamHost. - Nick Humphries

Among some of those already mentioned I use LovelyCharts a lot: http://lovelycharts.com/ - Peter van Teeseling

Mike Bracco: What other Mac online backup solutions did you try and what are the features separating Backblaze from others to be the best? - Berk D. Demir

Last.fm, Flickr, Jajah - Bertrand Doux

Berk: I tried Mozy as well and also played around with a friends machine that had carbonite. I like Backblaze b/c is just works...I literally don't have to ever think about it. It was started by some ex apple guys I believe and it can definitely show in the final product. Very few options - it just backs up in the background. It also stores versions of a file so sequential backups are... more... - Mike Bracco

and Jing Pro - metalerik

Hosting & Domains (I've set some to auto-renew) ;) - Nicholas James

Flickr, Zenfolio, MobileMe, and (maybe soon) Animoto - Victor Panlilio

Evernote, Flickr, Last.fm - jbrotherlove

I loves me some Lynda. Lots to learn. Evernote and reQall http://www.reqall.com/ round it out. - Christopher Harley

flickr, photoshop.com, Zune - John D Reasor

Evernote, Mozy, and Flickr - Russellreno

Evernote, Flickr, Toodledo, BitDefender - Wei-Yen Tan

Hosting for my blog. Also pay for flickr, but that wasn't really worth it. - TobiasVerhoog.com

Flickr and Remember The Milk. Hosting accounts: Media Temple and Dreamhost. - Jorge Gobbi

Evernote is my favorite. It is the one application I will not do without. - Rob Cairns

Cecily & Mike: I've tried Mozy, Carbonite, Backblaze, iDrive and settled with Mozy for no obvious reason. Pretty much they are all the same. A very similar software, same slow initial backup process, versioned backups, easy restore, scheduling and background backup features, bandwidth throttling, being easy with the system resources and close yearly fees: $49.50 (iDrive: 150GB), $50... more... - Berk D. Demir

I must have tried Evernote five times, but can't really get what is SO useful about it. Maybe it's the "how" - can someone direct me to how they use it and why it's useful to them? As far as paid apps, Pandora, Carbonite and Extra Storage on Google. That's it. - Vince DeGeorge

Vince: check out Evernote's blog http://blog.evernote.com/ as well their tumblr blog http://evernote.tumblr.com/ They have some great use cases on both sites. Maybe that will spark some ideas on how to utilize it. It's one of those things where you have to kind of be conscious of it and make yourself use it - then after a while it naturally becomes part of your workflow - at least that is how it worked for me. - Mike Bracco

Was forgetting Animoto for which I will subscribe very soon - Bertrand Doux

Thanks for those, Mike, very helpful. I think you're right... I just need to make an effort to get it into my workflow. I think it may work well to document ASP.NET snippets I use often (maybe). - Vince DeGeorge

Vince: Yeah and what's helpful as Evernote progresses is that the service is getting faster and better integrated into the OS - which makes it less obtrusive and easier to work in. - Mike Bracco

DropBox, Skype and Pandora One. - Jason Huebel

flickr, MobileMe, WSJ - Johnny from BuddyFeed

flickr, last.fm, rememberthemilk - Jason Toney

Evernote, Dropbox and Skype - Sally Church

Mobileme is the only one I pay for right now. - DGentry

Evernote, Flickr, TinySpell and WinPatrol (last 2 Windows only) - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

Jott, Netflix, Zune. Flickr dropped off the top 3 some time ago. - Wade Dorrell

Flickr, Zune, Netflix. - Jordan Hofker from fftogo

Flickr, Netflix, Dreamhost - Logan Lindquist

Trying mobileme. - ashish

Napster, and MobileMe - Edgar Rodríguez

also, emusic. How could I forget them? - Jason Toney

SugarSync, Evernote, LastPass - Johan Bakken

Its got to be Evernote, Flickr and Skype. Noticing a lot of love for Evernote on this list - Robert Davies

For all you Evernote peeps, if you're not already in it, we have a pretty active room on FF: Feel free to join us! http://friendfeed.com/evernot... - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Remember The Milk, Flickr. Thinking about subscribing to Evernote but not sure I really need the premium version. If they add export option to their amazing recognition tool, I may switch. - Jean-Charles VERDIE

Damn me, I forgot the one I use the most: skype... - Jean-Charles VERDIE

freshbooks is great for small business invoicing. I use Pandora One also and Remember The Milk. trying Action Method (really good!) - Julian Seery Gude from BuddyFeed

Spotify.com, ProvideSupport.com, EverNote.com and soon e-tipi.com :-) - Elian Chrebor

@elian what does Spotify premium brings? I would subscribe for an offline and/or iPhone feature. E-tipi probably but I hope you won't have to pay ;) - Jean-Charles VERDIE

Can someone tell me what lynda.com does? And what do you get extra with a paid Pandora account? - Mark Traphagen

Mark: Lynda offers professional video tutorials or classes on pretty much any software imaginable (classes are streamed in browser via QuickTime and range anywhere from 2-12 hours. Pandora One is the pay Pandora account. It offers more skipping per day, double the bit rate quality (192 - huge difference from free account) and also a longer timeout period. - Mike Bracco

I thought the bit rate quality with Pandora One wasn't going to be a big deal but it's night and day...big difference. - Mike Bracco

Thanks, Mike! - Mark Traphagen

Hmmmm, $25/mo for lynda.com isn't bad. Wish they had more stuff that was non-Web-related, though. - Jason Huebel

I pay for Flickr, Plaxo and Me.com - Boris

Flickr is the only thing I pay for. At work we pay for Wufoo and love it. - Laura Norvig

Netflix, DeviantArt and that is it. That is all I pay for online besides GoDaddy for web hosting. - Mathew™ one of a kind

spotify :). - Tobias W.

I only pay for one at this point: Flickr. I am considering Evernote as well. - Adam

Likely Evernote. still test driving it. - Carolyn Chan

No test driving necessary for me, now a premium subscriber :) - LANjackal from IM

giganews unlimited usenet for $25/mo is always tempting - Mike Chelen

Other than my Web hosting, I don't have any paid subscriptions to online services that I can think of. I tend to gravitate toward ad-supported free services. - Curtiss Grymala

Clint

So Michal had an epic battle tonight with a kid who placed 4th at nationals last year they went right down to the wire and into sudden death. Unfortunately, it was not to be. Noah beat Michal. But the judge was very impressed with the match and Noah told Michal that no one had played him that hard in a really long time! Congratulations to you...

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http://twitpic.com/8j4g5 - SICK!

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Iran Elections: Quit Turning Your Twitter Avatars Green And Do Something | Air America Media - http://airamerica.com/blog...

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Air America makes a case against green Twitter avatar overlays, in favor of real action http://sn.im/greenav... - thx @Judieell [from http://twitter.com/CleverC...] - Marjolein Hoekstra

what the hell can people do about the Iran election that are on the other side of the planet? Seriously Air America needs to go off the air for good. - John Blanton from twhirl

There are many things that people across the world can do for people in Iran. Turning avatars green is a simple thing that helps to show them that there are many people out here trying to help, and that we have not just left them to die in the streets alone. Money, letters, proxies, spreading news of the situation there. Every little bit helps. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert Scoble to Robert's feed, building43

I'm talking to a bunch of marketers showing them Twitter and FriendFeed. Come here and tell them good examples of "now marketing:"

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I'm showing them Zappos. Tiny Prints. Four Seasons. And a few others. - Robert Scoble

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You'll be up on the screen, by the way. - Robert Scoble

Ah man. those guys don't need help. They already beat me half to death with direct mail. - Jason Nunnelley

Jason: heheh. - Robert Scoble

Zappos was on the Apprentice, weren't they? And on Oprah? After that, they need marketing? - RobinDotNet

Robin: Zappos has 400+ people on Twitter. They did a billion in sales last year for a reason. - Robert Scoble

And I'm very happy to have contributed to their success. :-) - RobinDotNet

http://www.mavericksroadhouse.com/ is a new restaurant near my house. I like their instinct to use Twitter and Facebook. - Robert Scoble

don't forget threadless - viv j

Most businesses around the world don't know how to use Twitter and Facebook. - Robert Scoble

isn't there a bakery somewhere that tweets when the fresh bread comes out of the oven? - Capn' One Eye - adrift

I like it when companies have people online tweeting. There are a lot of positive stories on the Consumerist web site about experiences using twitter to get help from businesses. - RobinDotNet

Viv: threadless is a great example, thanks for the reminder. - Robert Scoble

metageoff: URL? I'd love that example. - Robert Scoble

It is like searching for people using adwords and talking directly to that person NOW - Matthew Hillis

Advice, if you're on Twitter, and you are a brand Respond to your @ replies. It looks selfish and like you don't care if you don't. - Dan Harbison

A client, OrangeSoda uses it to track happy and unhappy customers and people that might buy their product. - Jonathan Bacon

bakery: http://twitter.com/AlbionsOven - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Smithsonian Institution's FB page is awesome: http://www.facebook.com/pages... - Vital Design

Just the fact that the Consumerist keeps printing the stories (I get their RSS feed) makes people think that's going to work, so I don't see how it can not benefit a company to be on twitter and/or FF. (Unless they're annoying, but don't get me started on the Lands' End e-mail overuse). - RobinDotNet

The same client uses Twitter to build credibility in the industry for recruiting. - Jonathan Bacon

The Tea Garden in New York always uses Twitter http://www.teagarden.com/index... Finest Tea from the Master Dr. Tea - Randy Nacol

Sweet Leaf Tea is using Twitter/Facebook to provide customer service, let people know about discount promotions, notify certain areas of events they'll be giving product away. Now I'm helping them produce a slew of rich media content we'll be using to showcase their product, people & fans at events & we'll be using T/F to be the primary promotion point for it. - Lyn Graft

Sorry, but marketing people of "the old" don't belong in the new. Their tactics are unchanged, un-evolved, and will provide little to no value to Twitter, the now, or FriendFeed. Thankfully I don't have to pollute my timeline with their nonsense. Maybe that's short-minded, but my target subscription base is innovation, technology, and tomorrow. Rarely does it include "Marketers" - Enrique Gutierrez

Yeah Zappos is the Golden Boy. - anna sauce

In PR I use it for keeping up on reporters (aka Robert Scoble) and finding out about opportunities for clients. Excellent tool. - Jonathan Bacon

Robin- I totally want to hear about Land's End email abuse! - anna sauce

When Ashton Kutcher was racing to a million, one of the digital billboard companies threw up free ads for him. I think this is going to be one of the most effective ways to get a now message out. Because they can update the billboards by throwing a switch, it allows companies to respond to whatever the hot topic of the day is. Even if only a few people see the billboard, because it will end up on twitter and what not, the innerweb will still see it. - Davis Freeberg

bakery: I seem to have been mislead - don't see any "come and get it!" announcements in that twitter stream - Capn' One Eye - adrift

guess anything or any business that evokes some kind of emotion ought to be on FF, FB or Twitter - viv j

Enrique - but new or old Mkgt is about forming the relationship with the consumer - it's just faster now. - Jeff Bishop

anna -- I signed up to get marketing e-mails from Lands' End (rare for me), and I get like 10 a week. Every day all the time. My friends complain abou the same thing. But you hate to unsign up because they have those free-shipping offers all the time, and sometimes you DO want to order something. - RobinDotNet

The interesting thing is that "now" marketing is more about a long-term strategy than instant "bang for the buck". You've got to put yourself out there for a good long while and have unique and genuine interaction before anything "big" ever happens. Get involved, but with a long-term view. - Inside Alaska

I'm all for people trying to learn to do things differently. - metalerik

Being able to connect directly with your customer. Give invites to or announcing special events via twitter. Giving your business a "social face". Why just today I got an invite to Google Voice (well I'm still waiting), because I follow the Google Team on twitter, and they (out of the goodness of their heart) offered to invite all their followers. I think it strengthens your brand by... more... - Wilfredo Guerrero

You can follow the event on Twitter here: http://twitter.com/CrownPe... - Robert Scoble

If you want a lesson in how not to do it, check this. Habitat spammed Twitter with voucher offers etc that incorporated iran election # tags. Egregious.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1... - Mark Littlewood

taco truck on twitter, tweets location http://twitter.com/kogibbq - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Oh, and don't treat it like another marketing project. Just share things that are cool or interesting about your business. If you're genuine, and the things you share 'really are' cool or interesting, people will catch on and spread the message. - Inside Alaska

Dave- can I quote you on that? I will write a blog post- I do "adventures in email marketing" and always on the lookout for folks' experiences. http://www.banane.com/workblog - anna sauce

The great thing about the real-time web is that it makes people attention to what is going on with your account. Think "Blue Light Special", but instead of having to be IN your store, they just have to be on the internet..... - Steve Lynch from twhirl

Jeff, yes -it's all about connecting to the customer - but how the "old" will go about it will typically include legal filtering, PR loops, spin, etc, and lack the genuine interaction Social Media actually requires to make it work the way it should. Even when it is done the "right way" Marketers will just copy what's already been done in hopes to mimic results of the people who innovated. Creates a meaningless Twitter/FF existence. - Enrique Gutierrez

For marketing, it is just like all the basic social media laws: be honest, be transparent, be interesting, be creative - anna sauce

show them this: http://www.twitscoop.com/search... and activate the graph button - twitscoop

I hope they've taken a bath today. Suggest the book Groundswell. - Benjamin Taylor

check out dell's latest twitter announcement: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009... (our client fyi) - amanda

One of the biggest issues I've seen with marketers embracing social media: losing the control of message they had with broadcast media. - anna sauce

You can't forward the twitter to PR and wait a week for htem to get back to you, regarding an issue with the product. That just doesn't play well. And like Motrin, you can't create an anonymous "mom" (see: transparency) - anna sauce

Murphy-Goode Winery hit the right note with their combined HR/PR/SMMarketing stunt http://www.areallygoodejob.com/overvie... - Ben Robbins

Show them the comcastcares and Bank of America on twitter. Helping people causes great word of mouth advertising. http://twitter.com/COMCAST... http://consumerist.com/5137806... - Karl Evard

Realizing that SM is not like any other channel you've used for mkgt before. If you're not going to have dedicated people to staff it (and not once a week) don't get into it. If you don't do it right - don't bother. - Jeff Bishop

Example: A cool paper was published, and I share it on FF through a bit.ly link. Then people see it, maybe follow the link to read it; I can then track the number of follow-ups through bit.ly. - Jason Miller

@Karl - New media channels make these companies appear much smaller than they really are. A sense of intimacy is a huge benefit to any conversation. - Benson Miller

a customer just tweeted that a certain (software product) feature isn't working great for them - Alexei Zheglov

How not to market: http://friendfeed.com/poppy... - J.D. Deutschendorf

Agree with J.D., you have to show them how not to market on social media. - Dilip Dand

Jeff Barr of Amazon uses products like Tweetdeck to observe real-time conversations about each of the AWS offerings in a separate stream. This has changed the way I consume activity streams. - Benson Miller

Who is to define "right", the vagueness of the proper way to approach Social Media platforms is at best an underwhelming set of platitudes. Get in and get some rug burn, there is nothing wrong with that. - Patrick Boegel

I might add: Keep it simple and creative. Don't SPAM your potential customers (followers); That's the fastest way to have them UNFollow you. - Sean E Brown

If you're a company and you're on twitter, you need to answer your tweets. I tweeted Tweetdeck to ask a question, and they didn't answer. That's just annoying. I think they use it to post new info about Tweetdeck and do marketing. :-P - RobinDotNet

South Food and Wine Bar (@SouthFWB) letting locals know about new dishes, new wines. Symantec (@netbackup, @enterprisevault, @nortononline, @backupexec, and so on) connecting with customers both happy and unhappy, helping to resolve complaints and letting users know of new articles, releases, and more. I could go on. - Nick Wade

Illustrate good examples with bad examples, Feedly, as recently as Tuesday provided a direct response, even though I was about to uninstall their product. Once I sort out my mess of an RSS feed list I'll go back to their product. It was a simple @reply that made the difference even though I wasn't an active user. Marketers don't like hearing that people don't like the product they represent, but once they start listening, it changes the dynamic. - Benjamin Taylor

It was said above, its about relationships. Social media provides another channel to connect and make an impression with people... its part of the communications engine that needs to stay well oiled and tuned. - Jeff Fishburn

http://twitter.com/wholefoods - Carlos Ayala

http://twitter.com/jetblue - Carlos Ayala

Provide a service AND market a product, if the MTA can do it - NYC subway system now has Twitter alerts by line: @NYC_F_trains, @NYC_2_trains, etc.. - Benjamin Taylor

The interesting dynamic to me, a large brand needs to work a bit harder whereas smaller businesses have a lower threshold for problems. There are tons of examples of crappy executions of mindless quotes streaming from smallish brands on twitter. This behavior is politely ignored, imagine if Microsoft, Google or GE decided to tweet every famous quote in history? - Patrick Boegel

I'm tired of the famous quote tweets. If someone starts tweeting famous quotes, I unfollow them. - RobinDotNet

If they want to talk about the famous quotes and discuss ideas around them, that's a different matter. Like Jeff Fishburn said above, it's about relationships. - RobinDotNet

Hmmmmm - Study: Twitter Drives a Lot of Traffic to Media Sites, but Doesn't Bring a Lot of Customers to Online Retailers http://bit.ly/13JyDE - ReadWriteWeb - PXLated

A few twitter opportunities include, listening to your customer base- polls, announcements of discounts, new products, giveaways, asking for help and helping others, generally broadening your horizons. - Donna Boley

I agree that companies need to answer their tweets! And, it's okay to use humor. A local retailer in my town gets a lot of traffic by making silly offers like, "Make me laugh and get 10% off." It makes me want to visit their shop even though I wouldn't ordinarily think to go there. http://twitter.com/merchbot - Coyote

the simply elegant way for a bizz to get started on twitter is to stream the comments customers are making. Trader Joe's let's their shoppers speak for them. I like how Vetrazzo suggests home and design conferences as events on Facebook. - Lane Rapp

Dell has had great success marketing over Twitter. It isn't traditional marketing, but when done well it's very effective. - Keith Bourgoin

Remember this is all about turning business models on their heads. Do all your aftersales first , be helpful, be an ally, be useful first and then hope you've done enough for someone to come and purchase. - Crispin Heath

Mint.com's a pretty good example in the FS space - Crispin Heath

There is a lot of arrogance in this thread. Perhaps the old school needs to be better learners and the new school be better teachers. - Matt Soreco

Great Mashable article, how to twit for brands: http://mashable.com/2009... - anna sauce

Please ask them not to respond to every mention of their brand on Twitter. I don't always want to be asked "Can I help?" when I moan about something's poor performance. You can't own the conversation like that. - Ian Betteridge

Commenting on posts can be a surprise, and it helps to have professional feedback. - Mark Essel

Brilliant post. This is a huge problem, how can a company engage people without using robots? Ultimately, they need a transparent culture (eg. Quicken Loans.) That way the employees can respond on behalf of the company. - Greg

I'm from Chicago, I found Leo on a podcast and have been following him since! - Mark Williamson from BuddyFeed

I meet people online that I find interesting and follow them like Robert Scoble. - Randy Allen Bishop

Show them @habitatUK as a counter example - 77Agency

Thanks for the Tiny Prints plug @scobleizer! somehow I missed the conversation yesterday. Threads like this are very useful to us to help mature our social media strategy. Lots of great examples. - Rick Bucich

http://adcause.com of course. I hope to demo it for you someday soon in half moon bay over some beers at the fire pit ;) - Andy A.

my involvement with #areallygoodejob has brought some great opportunities for me all the way off in Germany--surprising for me is that twitter has been the key driver for traffic and leads for me (for employment options in Germany). - Andrea Schmitz

Bret Taylor to Bret's feed, FriendFeed News

FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...

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"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com." - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet

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That's the new hawtness! - Alex Scoble

wow - michael sean wright

whoa! - vijay

SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA - Josh Haley

Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

the game just changed - chrisofspades

Haha! Nice... - WorldofHiglet

nice - endiaferon

This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list. - Kol Tregaskes

Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint... - sean andersen

Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again. - Kol Tregaskes

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit? - Frankie Warren

this has awesomesauce all over it - Alfredo

is video an option? - Zee.

We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff. - Bret Taylor

Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication? - Mark Trapp

No video at the moment, Zee. - Ross Miller

Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com? - chrisofspades

So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox> - nickrw

nice! - Mike Bracco

So, no BluRay rips, then :p - Josh Haley

Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable). - Bret Taylor

Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect. - Bret Taylor

Very Nice - Brent - Loving Life

neat-o! - t i n y m

Bret - is music an option? - Zee.

WIN - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Any other files that don't work with it? - Kol Tregaskes

What's the file attachment size limit? - imabonehead

Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that? - Frankie Warren

@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff." - Dan Hsiao

@Dan, thx - imabonehead

Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported - Dan Hsiao

Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above. - Kol Tregaskes

MP3s? - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day). - Bret Taylor

Yay, no more rapidshare! :) - Kaan Ertürk

OK, but any format? - Kol Tregaskes

I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me] - Philipp Lenssen

Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

LOL, Tina. - Kol Tregaskes

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported? - Kol Tregaskes

Tina++, Holy Crap! :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga... - Alfredo

Bret: What about attachments to comments? - sean andersen

Swwwweeeettttt!!! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry.... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Greatissimo :) - Stanislas Jourdan

Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw? - Kol Tregaskes

Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server? - Frankie Warren

Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock. - Mitch

Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images? - Kol Tregaskes

Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating? - Akiva Moskovitz

I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :) - Carlos Ayala

I think you can support them by buying the FF swags. - imabonehead

cool - Siavash

and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY - chrisofspades

NIIIIIIIIIIICE - Pedram

Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :) - JA Castillo

JA, agree. - Kol Tregaskes

Chris, cool. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code. - imabonehead

mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really! - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Thierry, yep MP3s are supported. - Kol Tregaskes

this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind. - Mike Elliott

Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood. - JA Castillo

Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?! - JA Castillo

If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it). - Kol Tregaskes

JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Cool stuff - Tyson Key

Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest? - Tyson Key

Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition! - Holger Eilhard

NaFFster! :) - jcunwired

Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;) - Tyson Key

this is GREAT! - Cee Bee

Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1.. - Daniel Sims

Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :) - Victor Ganata

Hey Bret, are these virus-checked? - Jordan Hofker

@Jordan - good question - andy brudtkuhl

Jordan, good shout. - Kol Tregaskes

The moment I read this I updated my AV program. - jcunwired

Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type? - Cliff Gerrish

Jordan- yes, we virus scan them. - Casey Muller

Cool, Casey. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

LOL Victor ... true that. Well done FF team. - Amani from IM

Awesome, thanks Casey. - Jordan Hofker

Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time. - Casey Muller

Haha, Victor. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit? - Jordan Hofker

search by file type? - Jason Wehmhoener

Jason, good shout. - Kol Tregaskes

Jordan - what is **AA's ?? - Jannifer @wordsforliving

This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's. - Gil Francisco III

This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community. - Johnny

Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF. - Kol Tregaskes

This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;) - Frankie Warren

Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned - Richard pancakhaus Walker

Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky. - Jordan Hofker

Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea? - Jason Nunnelley

.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line? - Christopher Harley

How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good! - Richard pancakhaus Walker

yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc. - Nathan Chase

Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment." - Ross Miller

\m/ - metalerik

abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love** - Ahmet Alp Balkan

Jason, I might be with you on this one. - Johnny

This is nice! Very nice! - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

Yippie-kai-yay :)))) - A.T.

Thanks, Ross. The paid app, iProRecorder http://www.iprorecorder.com/ suffers the same limitations. - Christopher Harley

NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team! - AJ Batac

Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :) - Dilip Dand

Very Cool !!! - Eric Logan

I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato. - Miss Elle

Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target? - Travis Koger

@ Travis: I was just wondering the same. - Brian Chang

Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message? - Jason Nunnelley

"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler. - Christopher Harley

seriously useful. - Calvin Ayre

I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred. - Jimminy Fuller

Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users? - Fleagle

this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done! - K.D.

that is AWESOME! - Lindsay is in 20-ten

Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks. - Jimminy Fuller

Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work! - michael silverton

Kudos on the added features! - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。 - 老巫师

哇塞，这个强的。 I like it. - xiawinter

Wow. Just wow. Thanks. - Laura Norvig

NICE! Thanks for the info. - Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom

Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>. - ianf ⌘

Oh, very awesome! - Scott Magdalein

It's *machine code*. - Karl Knechtel

Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- - Chris, Without Direction

So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy... - Jimminy Fuller

Excellent! Thank you! - Diego Barros 

"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...) - Ozkan Altuner

Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool! - Ozkan Altuner

Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please? - Richard pancakhaus Walker

Must you force downloads on HTML files? - raphaeL

This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity. - Rick Cogley

Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start. - Ubuntu101

Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast? - Ubuntu101

Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit?? - Chris Loft

embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat. - John Blanton from twhirl

I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice. - John Blanton from twhirl

:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net) - raphaeL

Thx! FF continues to rock :) - Krishnamoorthy

why the limit on audio files? - Tyler Gillies

Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format... - Tyson Key

Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far. - Tyson Key

wow :) - Mucio

I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more? - Dnl

anyone know the file size limit? - Julian Seery Gude

My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right? - Daniel J. Pritchett

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice! - Micah Wittman

FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means... - Mitch

*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :) - Susan Beebe

oh heck yes - Shey, Jamaican of FF

Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-( - April Russo (app103)

LOL at the FF secret plans.pdf!! - Darren Heydon

Myrna to Myrna's feed, The Iranian Green Wave

(persiankiwi) on Twitter [This is BAD! Her tweets start 4 hrs ago and stop at 2 hrs ago.] - http://twitter.com/persiankiwi

June 24 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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4 hrs ago: 6PM Iran Time: "just in from Baharestan Sq - situation today is terrible - they beat the ppls like animals - #Iranelection RT RT RT. I see many ppl with broken arms/legs/heads - blood everywhere - pepper gas like war. they were waiting for us - they all have guns and riot uniforms - it was like a mouse trap - ppl being shot like animals. saw 7/8 militia beating one woman with baton on ground - she had no defense nothing - #Iranelection sure that she is dead. so many ppl arrested - young & old - they take ppl away - #Iranelection - we lose our group. ppl run into alleys and militia standing there waiting - from 2 sides they attack ppl in middle of alleys. all shops was closed - nowhere to go - they follow ppls with helicopters - smoke and fire is everywhere. phone line was cut and we lost internet - #Iranelection - getting more difficult to log into net. rumour they are tracking high use of phone lines to find internet users - must move from here now. reports of street... more... - Myrna from Bookmarklet

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from:http://aricmayer.blogspot.com/2009... "nicole said... I have been following Persiankiwi since last week, and I was thinking the same thing this morning. I think about this person(s) and what he/she/they are going through as I sit at my desk and ignore my work to follow the story. However, persiankiwi dropped off the grid a couple times last week and scared me, only to resurface with more hope and inspiration. I'm crossing my fingers that we hear more..." - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I also had not seen anything from @oxfordgirl in some time today, and just saw a couple tweets come through from her. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Yes, I saw them today also. We get the real 'nitty gritty' from these brave souls. I'd like to meet them some day. - Myrna

I had been following @persiankiwi as well. I wish there was a way to more easily follow this post without using the term "Like." - tollie williams

I went through the same feeling about not wanting to click like and then someone said, here it means support or RT. You RT things on twitter that are important so just think of retweet when you click like. - Myrna

:| - Shandiz

As I reminded some folks on twitter. Twitter accounts are disposable. People are not. We can hope and pray that both @Change_for_Iran and @PersianKiwi have laid low for a bit, gotten some new, as yet unknown gear (IP addresses, phones, proxies, etc etc) and likely some new accounts on twitter.) After rereading PK's last handful of tweets - I'm certain if there is anything left to their group, they had to scrounge new net connections, and would have ditched the account. (for now). - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob, did you see Jon Stewart tonight with Reza Aslan? If not tomorrow it will be posted. - Myrna

I can proudly say that I've never owned a TV! (well, for 1 month I had a 9" b&w) - So I watch the next day :( I keep jumping up and down that I would watch at showtime if they would just broadcast it on the web already! I can also say that my TV news comes from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

I can proudly say that I own a TV...lol - Myrna

Robert Scoble

Neda is on my thoughts as I go to sleep and am holding my son.How will the world have changed by when I wake up?

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I was effected by that Video and can only hope the people of Iran get a chance to see it too. She didn't need to die. - joebrooks

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She is in my thoughts too! - Eduardo Loyola

We can only hope things will change. - WorldofHiglet

Joe: I read on YouTube that it was her dad holding her as she died. I can't even imagine. - Robert Scoble

I couldn't sleep last night / it could be me or my sister or any of my friends here .... - Shandiz

that's right/ it was her dad/ can't even imagine it :||| - Shandiz

The video was way intense. There's no way I can go to sleep after just watching it. Can't even imagine being there right now. Oh, and there will be change ... I have absolutely no doubt about that, WorldofHiglet. - Matthew Horton

Has Maryam written any of her thoughts on this? I would very much like to read what she thinks... - Karoli

Karoli: she hasn't. She doesn't want to get anyone in trouble. I think she also wants to travel there and doesn't want to be marked as a troublemaker. - Robert Scoble

They also are worried it will get worse. It is almost like she and her family are holding their breath. - Robert Scoble

Understood, Robert. Give her a hug from me. My sis-in-law's SO is Persian, many relatives there. He is very worried. - Karoli

it was told to accompany your family for more security. It happened to be a disaster to go out today - شوخی

it is not enough to keep her in our mind,we have to do something that they don't dare to do these things again,please do whatever you can that more people become aware of what happens now in Iran and react to that. - Mary

And all of this is done in the name of God. Isn't free will the will of God. May peace be upon Iran again. - Abhishek Rai

No one can put the genie back in the bottle, things can't revert to what they once were. Destination unknown. Either the government falls or the repression will be unspeakable. I can't see a middle path. - Bob Morris (polizeros)

Here's the video, in case you missed [hard to watch] http://open.salon.com/blog... - Nir Ben Yona

Steve Clemons of Washington Note: "One of DC’s best Iran experts Barbara Slavin wrote to me through Facebook and said, Steve, Iran ceased being an Islamic republic a week ago. now it’s just another military dictatorship." http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archive... - Bob Morris (polizeros)

As I spend the day with my own children today I will be thinking of Neda and her father. Terrible. I saw the video last night and thought it was scary, saddening, and enraging. - Lon Cohen

Knowing it was her father makes sense; the cries that come out in the last 15 seconds are absolutely ones of profound loss. The video is also his story. - James Watters

"Neda Agha Soltan didn't believe that we always have to fight and quarrel and be violent and have death," said Makan. "There's only one thing (Iranians) must fight and that's ignorance. And you don't fight ignorance with a sword or a gun. You turn on a light." Neda Agha Soltan, music student martyred in Iran, June 2009 - Carol

http://en.balatarin.com - Mahsa Z

I just cried when I saw it and I also could not get it out of my mind all day Saturday. I pray for the people of Iran that their struggle is not in vain. - Robert Freeze

Robert Scoble

Interesting analysis of Twitter's Suggested User List, which @timoreilly objects to in comments: http://twittercism.com/suggest...

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Scoble, do you feel you're should have been on that featured twitter users list? Or do you feel you deserve a time on it? - Doubledown_inSL

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Interesting. But how did the people on SUL get there on the first place? - Alex M.

Well said Robert. - Leo Laporte

Newt Gingrich?? Why *is* Newt Gingrich on the SUL? - RobinDotNet

I would think having Newt Gingrich on the list would invalidate the entire list. I mean, really. - RobinDotNet

Doubledown_inSL: I don't want to be on any default list by a platform vendor that I didn't earn my way onto and that YOU can't earn your way onto it either. This is not a meritocracy. It's a royalty system. One that picks stars and gifts them huge audiences. - Robert Scoble

Ahmed: Twitter picked their favorite people and removed anyone that they saw as a threat to their future business model. Me for talking about friendfeed too much. Leo for complaining about the name. Calacanis for being a pimp. Kawasaki for being too obvious about building his business (Alltop) on top of it. Shall I go on? - Robert Scoble

Doubledown_inSL: you need to take a look at the original conversation if you haven't already... http://ff.im/4iPSZ - Travis Koger

Robert: I see - Alex M.

reminds me of way clubs in NYC let people in #1.Star Power (BIG NAME), #2 Beauty #3 Wealth - courtney benson

one thing would be interesting to map - how many of the people on the list have ties to kevin rose... i am betting some interesting trends would show up. - Allen Stern

Courtney: You forgot women to men ratio! ;) - Travis Koger

Travis, right! - courtney benson

Allen: Leo and I both have ties to Kevin Rose and aren't on the list. - Robert Scoble

Media has always been star-driven... so one of the measures of success of any star-maker is the editorial judgment and wisdom of their anointed ones. Same in Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Nashville, Bollywood... print, radio, tv, movies... it's inescapable... and, Robert, no matter whose list you do or don;t make it onto, you are already a MAJOR star ;-) - Fred Davis

robert - im talking about "in his posse" - justine is(was?), gary, etc. it's something that I've wondered about for a while. - Allen Stern

It's the Web 2.0 Mafia ;-) - Jesse Stay

Fred: thank you (for those who don't know, Fred is one of the co-founders of Wired Magazine and a star in his own right). But I wasn't gifted my "stardom" by a media platform. ;-) - Robert Scoble

Fred, agreed that Robert is top notch but so is Leo, Guy and Jason as well as Kevin - courtney benson

Allen: if you said it's "San Francisco gadflys" or "insiders" then I think you're correct. It's just that Kevin is one that's very visible in that circle. Funny, Howard Lindzen and Jeff Pulver and Fred Wilson are investors in Twitter and they aren't on it. I think all three of them deserve it too. I wonder why they aren't gifted a spot? - Robert Scoble

Robert: surely having investors on the SUL would be a little too inbred, even for twitter? - Travis Koger

Travis: probably. I sure would love to see the thinking that goes on behind the scenes when they decide this list. By the way, I've heard from someone close to the Twitter team that complaining about the list gets you added to a black list where you never will get onto it. Which, funny enough, freed me to complain even more. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: I guess it would be a little liberating knowing that technically you could not offend them more than you already have. ;) - Travis Koger

there's always been old boys clubs, the SUL is just twitter's form of it. - BCK

Dave Winer is very quiet tonight. - Mark

Mark: I think he's traveling. - Robert Scoble

I do like his posts. I wish Dave contributed more on Friendfeed though. I think he is a little reluctant because he doesn't want to evangelise FF at all. He isn't interested in getting people from twitter to here, he considers that FF's problem and not something he should freely help towards. I suppose he is the opposite of you Scoble in that regard. - Mark

wow, I met Steve Johnson recently @MarketingProfs B2B and I did not connect his real life self with the Twitter suggested list :D - Valeria Maltoni

also, looks like the editors at People magazine picked who they put on the list :) - Valeria Maltoni

I swear I typed that before I saw People magazine on the list! - Valeria Maltoni

Robert, I think you're engaging in one of the oldest forms of media self-promotion here: attacking others as a way of drawing attention to yourself. I like you a lot and you're generally very positive. But when you start claiming that twitter "took you off the list" because you promote Friendfeed too much, I think you're playing the same kind of media game that led talk radio and its ilk astray. It doesn't speak well of you. - Tim O'Reilly

I wondering if there has been anything showing whether being on the SUL effects a business bottom line, if it does or starts to I definitely can see a problem. - Kim Landwehr

Just guessing but I find it really hard to believe that half the "stars" on the SUL actually write their own tweets. Betting it is all run by a bunch of PR flacks. - Dave Hodson

Tim: you keep making this about me but I am far from the only one hurt by this list. But you are right and it demonstrates just how many strings are attached here even for people who are not on the list. We can't even discuss the list and how anti-community and how it sets up a corruptible system without looking like a selfish jerk. But you forgot one thing: I will not accept a spot on... more... - Robert Scoble

Tim: but I have written my last word on this. You are right that it serves me no good to talk about this and waste my energy on it. It's just shocking to me that you are defending something that isn't a meritocracy. I was expecting you to be the first one to decry this system of royalty and corruptible systems. The fact that you're all for it and, worse, saying I'm doing this just for self promotion, makes me sad. Really sad. - Robert Scoble

You are out of order O'Reilly. - Mark

Robert, you definitely earned your "stardom" but don't forget you also had a helpful platform as a Microsoft house blogger. - Michael Markman

Thats a pretty weak point, Michael. - Mark

Michael: and for that I had to interview and win my job (which wasn't easy). Also I had thousands of readers per day BEFORE getting that job and being a Microsoft employee didn't get me on a default list that was included in a platform service. I also didn't get an unfair advantage against other Microsoft employees and Bill Gates didn't "pick" the winners -- the marketplace did (when I... more... - Robert Scoble

Speaking as a non-celebrity looking in: I'm really bugged by this whole thing. First of all, Robert, I didn't need a SUL to follow you. Or Leo or Tim or iJustine or TechCrunch or anyone else on my list. The SUL means nothing to me. I never even looked into it ( I've been on twitter since 2006 way before the SUL was in place) until this whole SUL scandal started coming up. I understand... more... - Lise

Obviously the SUL is a bad idea all around, or at least the way it is implemented. I can see why they want it; most likely to help with retention of new users. Most people sign up and have no idea what to do. Unfortunately it puts Twitter, those on the SUL, and the people who point out what a poor system it is in a bad spot. There is no way Twitter can say they would be fair and... more... - W_B_K

Robert, hey, I know you weren't gifted your stardom, you earned it by being RELENTLESS about doing your thing, and doing it in public forums (whatever the forum), i.e.: sharing!!! - Fred Davis

I think, ideally, SUL's would be personalized, based on your interests, your profile(s), your friends, FOF's, etc. We'd all get a different one, that was (hopefully) more tailored to each of us. The web is about micromedia, and the one-SUL-fits-all approach is so mass media that it doesn't fit in very well... as this whole discussion (and the many others on the SUL topic) underscore. - Fred Davis

http://friendfeed.com/davew... - Mark

Fred: I agree and its a great point. This is almost what Facebook and LinkedIn do to recommend connections. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Some interesting points here. Being somewhat of a lightweight compared to some of the visionaries here, I appreciate the opportunity to comment on something that has been bugging me for some time. I wrote about the follower issue a little while ago on my blog, http://bit.ly/NhVQa, and I feel very strongly that Twitter has become a popularity contest for some of its users. The fact the Robert engages others equally, regardless of their VC level, is why I follow him. His value to the community is tangible. - Chris Sparno

I thought LinkedIn had a similar issue a few years ago with the number of connections and they capped the visible connections at 500 and evened the playing field. I like that approach. But it seems that acquiring twitter followers is baked into the twitter dna and they would never create a visible cap at 500. - Jim Posner

Robert, I love you to death man, but why do you waste so much time and energy on this topic? I certainly don't care who is on the list, it just doesn't matter in the scheme of things. Make you own SUL if you feel others deserve to be heard, you have the webspace and the star power to do it, so just do it. Big hug dude. - Rob Fahrni

Fred: I'd love a system like that. Sort of like Alltop or WeFollow.com. That would have been the right thing to do. Jim: exactly. Lise: there is a disconnect between those who do this as a business and those who do it just for fun. Audience size means money. Let me know how you feel when someone at work gets a huge raise without deserving it/earning it (especially worse if you've been... more... - Robert Scoble

Rob: I do have my own SUL. It's http://www.friendfeed.com/scoblei... and everyone on it earns their way on it every day by posting great content. - Robert Scoble

So all those sales people and "MAKE MONEY WITH TWITTER" people -- do they make money off of me if I don't follow them back? - RobinDotNet

I like what Fred said. It really would enhance the service. Tumblr has the right approach, at least in part, on the micro-level with Tumblarity. Each user has their own benchmark. In terms of twitter's SUL, it's fine, there's nothing wrong with it. Twitter is a business. The SUL is one method they use to promote their brand. There's a level of inherent familiarity built into the brand... more... - Benjamin Taylor

PS It's great to see the hulk back, in solidarity. - Benjamin Taylor

So if there was a revolt and nobody followed people on the SUL who they thought should not be on the SUL, would Twitter leave them on the SUL? If you don't follow someone because they are on the SUL, is that as bad as following them because they are? (Did that make any sense, or did I not get enough sleep last night?) - RobinDotNet

Exactly Robert, you work your butt off, and I appreciate you for what you bring to the table. I guess being a z-lister, like myself, leaves me on the outside of understanding why this is such a hot topic? Does this really boil down to money? I'm not trying to be an ass here, I truly don't get why it's so important? - Rob Fahrni

Let's not forget that you can't be the "media darling" if you don't cater to celebs and the popular.Twitter has grown down distinct paths. On one branch are the value creators - they share and create meaningful content, dialog and discourse. On another, are the media hounds, who crave attention and are collecting followers like Pokemon. Those of us who value the former don't pay attention to the SUL. - Chris Sparno

Isn't it kind of like going to google and searching for something, and the first links that show up are the ones that people have paid google money to give them precedence, and they might not even necessarily be the best search result? - RobinDotNet

Chris, nicely put. - Rob Fahrni

Robin, its exactly like that. Good analogy. - Chris Sparno

Benjamin: you don't want to see me when I'm angry! Rob Fahrni: absolutely it's about money. And sex. And influence. And other kinds of measuring I won't mention here. :-) - Robert Scoble

Rob Fahrni: but mostly it's about building a platform that is a meritocracy. I'm an American. I don't like royalty based systems. If you can't earn your way onto this list I don't want any part of it. - Robert Scoble

Oh Robert, you're killin me man! - Rob Fahrni

Rob Fahrni: I'm in a good mood. Peter Himmelman is rocking! http://peterhimmelman.com/furious... Come join us, more fun than debating stupid lists. - Robert Scoble

Then Google isn't an exact model, because it IS a meritocracy, even though it's based on cash. - RobinDotNet

Robin: I've never paid to be on Google. So far Google is a pretty darn good example of a good platform vendor that lets the marketplace decide winners and losers. - Robert Scoble

Don't they have paid links that take precedence? I guess the diff is that though they might have that (and I don't know that they do for sure), they also show everybody else that fits the search criteria. - RobinDotNet

Robin: absolutely not. The paid links were always separate on Google and never were mixed in with the free ones. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I meant killin me in a good way, I'm grinning ear-to-ear. I see your point but doesn't all this attention, even negative attention, just add to the popularity of the thing you despise? You're one of the good guys Robert, don't let this drag you down. I think this is great fodder for a very long essay on Scobleizer. - Rob Fahrni

Got it. That's good to know. So the links that best meet the search criteria are on the top. Hmmm. Sounds like meritocracy to me. You're right, not like Twitter's SUL. - RobinDotNet

It's kind of interesting Robert that you are righteously condeming Twitter for removal from the SUL. As if it a) really matters in the grand scheme of things, b) like this is supposed to be a true meritocracy (I'm uncertain where one exists in the real word), and c) complaining on friendfeed or yourblog will change twitters mind. You are not @aplusk kutchner, or one of the Jonas bros... more... - derikp

derikp: if my son is better at playing soccer and isn't chosen I'd certainly go and talk to the coach and plead his case. But we're not talking about soccer and anyway I'm done discussing this. Onward. I'm glad there are so many people who like royalty based systems and don't understand why meritocracies are important to defend. I guess that's how we end up with countries like Iran and China. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

It's interesting, a number of you have heavily criticized the SUL, yet you're all still using Twitter. Speaks to the power of numbers in the platform. - Bill Kinney

Why should there be a list at all? Follow people that interest you. You make twitter what it is. - Ryan Gerritsen

Bill: You can not like the SUL and still use Twitter. Apples and oranges. I don't like many of the people who live in my town, yet I still live here and like the town. - Curt Mercadante

Granted. I just think it would be more interesting if someone critical of Twitter put their money where their mouth is and stopped using it. Actions speak louder than words, yadda yadda. It seems unlikely given the audiences some people have over there even if it's not a million plus. I also think the tech celebrity is jealous that traditional media has co-opted the platform. It's a fascinating topic. - Bill Kinney

oh when will lame twitter SUL get corrected?! *sigh* - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

And, by the way, it seems like the SUL is being used like the same "mass follower" tools that the Twitter folks are seeking to diminish by killing the accounts of those who use them. - Curt Mercadante

Reason I still use Twitter, I still get more responses from my Tweets than in FF. Yet I tend to be more engaged in FF these days but I think the FF celebs usually spark the most engaging threads and the rest of us are trying to get that engagement from our posts. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

manielse: there's no audience more engaged than one you build yourself by being of service to them. It's tough work and I'll be watching and engaging! - Robert Scoble

Sorry I wasn't complaining, just saying many of us built that in Twitter and find it a little tougher to get traction on FriendFeed with our posts. I think tools like WeFollow, Twellow (and even #followfriday) help build relevant audiences easier. You can even argue that SUL is even a good starting place for n00bs. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

manielse: yeah, the eco system that's built up around Twitter is quite powerful. On the other hand here all you need to do is follow someone active and they bring other people into your view (every time I click "like" or comment on someone's items I push those items into your view, for instance) so finding new people to follow here is much nicer and much less of a competition. Plus you find new voices that aren't on any list a lot faster here, I've found. - Robert Scoble

Manielse, ditto Robert S - Myrna

Maybe they could reward early twitter users with a day on the list for every month on twitter before 08. If new social networks would promise props in the future I could live without twitter. - Greg Birch

Although the SUL is obviously distorting of the natural community growth of Twitter, and does not really fulfill the functions @Ev and @Biz intended, "power users" not on the SUL who criticize it should know: they sound really vain, chippy, and silly. - Jason Pontin

I don't care who is on the Twitter SUL, and I pay no attention to it. I look for the Twitter feeds that are most interesting to me -- they are not difficult to find, with a bit of searching. I don't understand the preoccupation with that list -- like everything on the Internet, it is simple to route around or ignore entirely. - Sean McBride

Jason: we know that. If I lived in fear of looking vain, chippy, or silly, I'd just stay off the Internet! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert, I do not know you or Tim but I do follow and have great respect for you both. IMHO (I am an amateur when compared to you guys), Tim was not saying that he supports the SUL. Do I agree with his comment? Nope. Do I like the SUL? No. But it does happen that if you criticise a list while you mention that you have not been included it can sound like you are "jealous" even if you are not and you do have good reasons for not liking the list... so this can be a tricky one! - Pablo Melchor

Really, the personalized way is the only good way... I mean, sheesh, Twitter recommends people like Ashlee Simpson to me, ferchrissakes! So most of the people on the SUL are a total waste for me, and I suppose for most people, when you get right down to it... if I had some $ to burn I'd get some outside research firm like Insight Express to scope out how the SUL is actually viewed,... more... - Fred Davis

I still think most people find suggested users through word-of-mouth and their own social circles. That's the only way to get the people you really want to follow based on your interests. I've also found that using hashtags properly will get the kind of users you want to follow to you before you get to them. - Fleagle

John Shafer

Park City goodness: http://gallery.photographyreview.com/showpho...

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Really nice stuff, John. - Scotty Perkins

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Photography Show - International Color Awards - http://emmeffe.tumblr.com/post...

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Wish i could have been there. - Gwen Sutton

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that's hysterical - Laura Pritchard

awesome! - Mycaptain

از چپ ب راست : من ، اتل ، امین تک سلولی ، اونم سردسته همه فرفریا :))) - Papak

That would be me! No doubt! - Arlene Smith G.

من چه شادمان هستم =)) - atalmatal

Robert Scoble

It's only pixels. Little dots of color that represent #'s underneath. But Boston.com's Big Picture always grips: this week more than ever. - http://www.boston.com/bigpict...

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This is my favorite site for photojournalism. How they get such great photography every week is a story I'd love to hear more about. Gripping, especially this week. Amazing what simple pixels on a screen can do to grab you. - Robert Scoble

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I urge everyone to click through and view these pictures. This is not about an election; it is about people's right to be heard. - Mark Traphagen

i'm sure rackspace and b43 could get you into boston.com to interview somebody... right? - Chris Heath

Chris: yes, someday. I need to visit Boston, but just so freaking busy lately. - Robert Scoble

totally understand... but don't forget... what am i thinking... of course you won't - Chris Heath

Saw this link elsewhere earlier - these are AMAZING pictures! - Alex Hellstrom

Great photos. - Rick Cogley

As an aspiring photographer I have always hoped to get a photo on that page. Maybe one day. - John Ford

Robert Scoble

53% of my 96,000 followers don't follow directions. They are useless. The others will discuss this on FriendFeed here:

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you mean like so? :) - Iwan

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huh? - Rasmus Lauridsen

:-) seriously, everyone wants followers but what good are they if they won't do anything you tell them to do? Useless! - Robert Scoble

hahah that is soo funny - Susan Beebe

yet sooo true. wondering just how long until people figure it out - Susan Beebe

huh? - Gabriel

is this a timed challenge? - Iwan

Hmmm... - Adam

Literally LOLing at this, Robert. - ha3rvey (big appetite)

Yes master... - Chris Forbes

You're not the boss of me! :) - jcunwired

i'm not sure what you mean ;) - Suzannah Archibald

I want to know how many of them consider themselves social media experts? - Colin Anawaty

bit of a pompous mood today? when have you ever expected anyone to follow directions on the net? - Doubledown_inSL

I was lost when Robert was at the 140 conference - he wasn't active here so I didn't know what to read...haha - Mike Bracco

*looks around for FF koolaid* - Susan Beebe

Fine, so I am useless. - Julie Anderson

Getting people to follow directions on the internet is akin to herding cats. Best of luck. :) - Keith Bourgoin

Any reccomendations for friend feed convos on the iPhone? - Stuart Tracte

lol - Miguel Rodriguez

FF sux nardz - Doubledown_inSL

How could I defy the techno-hulk? - Amanda Magee

ahah, like most of the followers on twitter =) - Pierre TAMISIER

You are fired up today...you might want to switch to decaf. GOOD GODS, WHAT AM I SAYING. - M.L. Stone

but 47% of people go on FF? that is quite good - Billy Fung

So, 47% or your followers are expected to discuss here? The comment counter is going to explode. - Brome

http://friendfeed.com/iphone works well. At least, it works well on my Android - Keith Bourgoin

3% of Scobes followers are still trapped on Myspace - Doubledown_inSL

twitter wasn't an interactive medium was it? :P - jaspio

What? - fanch_guy

Kevin: only about 42,000 of my 96,000 followers are here. Useless! I think they are all spammers or bots. - Robert Scoble

I'm amazed how fast this thread is growing. - Nick Prince

You mean 95,999 followers. - Robert Peterson

Very clever. - Nicole

that mass growing of the thread would be the 47% who can follow instructions ;o) - Carl Grint

I keep having to block spammy, icky followers on twitter, mostly porn and get-rich schemers..augh! - Susan Beebe

I refuse to respond to such a claim! - Al Fuller

seriously, how much is FriendFeed paying you? - Greg Hollingsworth

"I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11 - don manu

What am I not supposed to do? Where is the line? - Brian Goss

Spammers and bots eh? Great minds think alike? - ralphsaunders

What prize are you going to give your 100,000 follower? - Mike Bracco

Greg: I got a free t-shirt. - Robert Scoble

*reading and where is my popcorn? ;) ;)* - Ronald

LOL - Schneider Mike

Flame bater - Ron Hudson

promised to cure cancer at 100k - Doubledown_inSL

following on twitter AND NOT subscribing on FF = useless? - Alexei Zheglov

I won't comment this thread ;) - DAL

Does it count if I follow you on FF, but not twitter? - Keith Bourgoin

Spammers are everywhere though including here. - Brian Sullivan

@Doubledown_inSL Now that's funny. - Mike Dowden

Power is a double-edged sword, Robert...lol... can be tough to galvanize one's - Carol Lynn Martens

wow... think we could crash friendfeed with this thread? - Chip McComb

ROBERT! I sent you like 500 @ replies on twitter, wth aren't you replying? j/k - Justin Hopkins

I don't get it - Amelia Rangel

Do you want followers or slack-jawed lackys? - Mark Petzold

how many comments per minute will appear in average :D - Flavio

LOL @ Justin - Doubledown_inSL

Huh, what? Should I comment here? - Kandeezie

No one has to do anything anyone says/ - Paul Kinlan

let's see how 'stableizer' FF really runs *bumping up this thread *g* * - Ronald

No. I refuse to. But that doesn't make me useless. :-P - Ladybug Heather

show me a bridge - I'll jump after you! - BEX

FF is great, it just requires a higher level of interaction that many people don't have time for or interest in. - Stuart Tracte

new game: instead of "simon says" it is now "scoble says" - Chris Rogers

That's truth but I am one of the direcitons follower - Gent Thaqi

Just following instructions. - Larry Roth

Glad I caught this in my Twitter feed - I'd hate to be a bad directions-follower. - Shawn Farner

whatever you say - George Deane

^^ yeppers, i robot :D - Ronald

If you're happy and you follow (Scoble), clap your hands! - Carlos Granier-Phelps

I may of missed something, my bad.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Must do what Scoble says... Slow down comment box... forgot what this tread was about. - Drew S

Doh! Sorry, I clicked that link by accident - I'm in the 53%. As you were... - Andrew Jordan

/claps hands - George Deane

do what? - Mick

I agree that FF is better for tracking conversations, and hopefully @Twitter will get that. I still spend more time on Twitter - Matthew Scott Horbund

I follow directions but am often useless. Where do I fit? - Aaron Ball

53% your numbers are inaccurate. - Carlos Ayala

This should be interesting... - Robert Lee

YES O LORD AND MASTER, WHAT IS THY BIDDING :) - ftg888

wow, I'm not the only one who has no clue what's going on.. - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Grr... shouldn't have commented... Now I'll be getting IM updates forever!!!! - Carlos Granier-Phelps

I think this is just a psychology experiment... - Chip McComb

lol - Sebastiaan van den Akker

Commenting so as not to appear useless - Herb Hernandez

hahaha - Ronald

Carlos: lol - Larry Roth

what is actually ment by "directions"? - Clemsen

yes how is the number 53% found. - Daniel Graversen

as usual im in the minority (43%), Im never in the majority :( - George Deane

I hope you're wrong, Chip. Otherwise, you didn't see me here. - Shawn Farner

reporting for duty... - Todd Goldstein

baaaaah - mikepk

Scoble does have a lot of followers... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

I thought men were basically incapable of asking for directions, so why would they follow them? ;-) - Julie Bovee Hill

Robert, you are looking angry today. Take it easy, man! - Walter Lounsbery

d'oh! I meant 47% - George Deane

I am in building 44. Can you give me directions to 43? - David Connell

??? is this a test of the national broadcasting system? - Robert Wilkins

damn it scoble! get a real job! =) - Jonathan Crossland

Wow--never thought I'd wish for a "Don't Like" button or link, Robert! - Kathy Fitch

Robert's comments are very important particularly for political & development work. - Justin Long

Also important for business marketing. - Justin Long

U made me upset in first look then I realized what u mean and I found Im not not one of those. Hope you are not angry sir and wont fire me.. - Abhijeet Singh

I need a job like Scoble's... but in Miami. - Carlos Granier-Phelps

to comment or not to comment.... that is the question... - Kim

Are trending topics on friendfeed called "friending topics"? - Larry Roth

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) What was the question again? - don manu

hehehe... nice trick - Gustavo Munoz from twhirl

Robert, I'm up to the CHALLENGE of not being "useless." Actually, my business communication students at SFSU just heard my initial remarks which included THREE RULES FOR SUCCESS in BUSINESS [and everything else!] The rules: LISTEN CAREFULLY, READ CAREFULLY and FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS! - Shari Weiss

i think this thread goes 'epic' on FF ;) - Ronald

Apathy is the big killer of networks. - Justin Long

I'm here. That makes me not useless, I guess? - Celia

Robert Wilkins: it is my test to see how many spammers, bots, or jerks are following me. - Robert Scoble

I get alot of spam about sites who gives you followers, whats the point of the followers have no interresting to give to you? And whats most crap is that they have enabled auto-follow back.. grrr :P don't sign up on those sites people.! - Qbat

I like the constantly refreshed list but it doesn't half distract me from my own comment! - Joshua Davidson

hahahahaha, ok.. now I get it - Sebastiaan van den Akker

I Welcome our FF Overlords! - Al Fuller

Does this mean that you expect there to be 45,120 comments here? - Andrew Pass

I like Viagra. - Paul Puri

:-P - Lorenzo Strambi

a spammer... - Sebastiaan van den Akker

this is the only ff link of yours i followed. - moogs

You are usefull for us Robert =) - Qbat

I am getting a few new people to follow here, which is good! - Robert Scoble

Qbat aka Larsen: Agreed! - Larry Roth

I am not a bot! I am a free man! - Jeff Newfeld

Talking directions? - Sardar Mohkim Khan

i guess i've been lucky - i don't think i've seen any bots yet on FF (going now to check my short followers list) - Chris Rogers

Why do you think that people take the time to comment here? - Andrew Pass

This thread is like watching the real time web on steroids.I can't type fast enough to keep the comment box in view....yikes! - Dana Fosburgh

Robert - me too, thanks! :) - Susan Beebe

All you have to do is insult people and then they come :-) - George Deane

Notice how many of us follow when we are told we are not following. - Sandy McMerty

So, you're saying that people who don't use FF are spammers, bots or jerks ? - Djordje Lukic

So when you figure out how many there are, How are you going to auto filter them out? - Robert Wilkins

I read, I clicked, I arrived. I guess that means I'm not useless. - Mike

This comment intentionally left useless. - phil baumann

Seriously though let's not take the term 'followers' too literally. Just because I read a column doesn't mean I share the authors views. Just because you say lets discuss this on friendfeed doesn't mean I log onto FF and.......ah. OK....What is thy bidding?! - Joshua Davidson

You suck, man. I refuse to be a minion. Oh, wait... shit... - Joey Gibson

<Insert clever comment here.> - CAJ, somewhere else

Am I in the 53% or the 47%? - Tony Connor

What type of followers do you need Robert? Tell us and maybe we will try to be better. - Qbat

DeVries: oh, I understand. We need better notified control. - Robert Scoble

150th - Harscoat

Well, those who don't do what you tell them are actually more useful. No for you directly, but for the society. They mix your directions with their own to create new ones. - Kirill Petrovsky

Is this a roll call :) - Boon Kwee

i'm just commenting to hang with the cool kids - ukgrad98

^^ Nope 'happy hour' at Scoble's ;) ;) - Ronald

"Follower" is a weird term. "Watcher" may be better. Follower implies action and engagement, and anybody who's used social media for more than 20 minutes knows that just isn't true. - Jared Smith

Have I responded quick enough not to deemed useless. I feel a little baaaaa now. - Crispin Heath

Jared: bing! - Robert Scoble

So if you ever figure out how to deal with the bots and all the "I will teach you to make millions with Twitter" junk let us all know! - Marshall Huwe

you are talking about twitter, they would be useless but they are numbers and number always count. - Madhav Tripathi

If we need to use friendfeed to be useful, are there any clients or is it only the webinterface. - Daniel Graversen

Marshall: this is how. Bots and spammers don't get FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Daniel: what is wrong with the web? - Robert Scoble

inscribo ergo sum (I write therefore I am) - Jeff Newfeld

Nothing, just seem deficult to follow more threads. But that is probably not needed because the whole conversation is in once place. No need to multitask. - Daniel Graversen

is it just me or is the most used "plugin" on FriendFeed twitter? - Qbat

Actually, I find FriendFeed useless. I was reading an article about Twitter being useless, but the news get faster there. We'll have to say thanks to TwitScoop for that. - Dragos Pirvu

I never use FriendFeed. it just agregates all my other feeds into one feed. thats all :D - Zafarali

Dragos: wait until you compare search here to Twitter before calling it useless. Among other features. - Robert Scoble

No bot me, no. Count me out for that one. - Ton Zijp

dragos: all the news on Twitter is on FF, plus FF has better conversation - what do you think is missing? - Chris Rogers

FriendFeed enables comments on your tweets.! - Qbat

Robert Scoble: I think the proliferation of tools for Twitter let you slice and dice the data the way you want it and that is helpful to many. I do like the Web interface for FriendFeed, but imagine the possibilities that some cool tools could bring. No? - Larry Roth

So then we need someone in your vast network to write us a little app that will map the Twitter users who comment on FF and then block all the rest! Or at least create a "Real" Group in TweetDeck for me. - Marshall Huwe

You don't want followers, Robert—you want minions. I've got a few myself, and they're great. - Glen, Bespectacled Elder

ha! - Ned Baugh

there are SO MANY COMMENTS HERE - Zafarali

haha :) - Johnny from BuddyFeed

the best part is u can track em - Zafarali

Is this the way to San Jose? err ... I mean Friend Feed? - Tom Horn

Twitter should have a option that people who want's to follow you must write a small text for WHY you should let them follow you or the other way around - Qbat

Did you know that more than 90% of all statistics are made up? ;) - Tim Young

I'm getting tired of having to block the spam followers everyday. - Ron Hudson

Working on both FF and twitter - but FF is easier to follow comment threads - kathysd

What is interesting is I am already following most of the people who commented here which proves my point. - Robert Scoble

I was carefully looking at this list the other day http://spinn3r.com/rank... - turns out many people on it barely/if at all - use friendfeed. - Nir Ben Yona

Can you guys slow down - I can't keep up :( - Al Fuller

I think Twitter and FF provide different things and there is space on the internet for both :) - Tom Griffin

I've had friendfeed for quite a while, but I've not used it much, how do I expand this chat? - Ron Hudson

How does this post check for bots? - Amit Morson

Followers can not be useless. At least you can be proud of the sheer scale. And I believe, you don't want to have a conversation with thousands people at once. That would be truly useless. - Grigori Milov

I am here with you - I think it is that only half want to have a say. - Robert Freeze

On Twitter I talk strangers V on Friendfeed I am among friends - Asgeir

I'd like twitter to have a "report spam" button, this would avoid quite a lot of hassle... - don manu

Ron: just click on comments link under the topic - Qbat

ya like that! thanks. How do I do that? - Ron Hudson

Why is it important that followers comment & discuss U2, @Scobleizer? BC U R green? - Petter Griph

Amit: bots don't follow directions from people who are not their owners. No bots here. - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed should get a comment button under all the comments - Qbat

So, 47% will choose to do their own thing and not comment on here. Wait - what? Doh! And 65% won't read the comments that have already been made because there are already 'too many' :-D - Andy Bold

Qbat: click on the time under the post and open it in a new window - Robert Freeze

Andy: I'm in the 35% that read the comments. Didn't want my lame joke to be a REPEATED lame joke. :D - Tim Young

Robert Freeze: aaah.! Thank you =) - Qbat

Robert: unless perhaps the bot has directions to comment on every Scoble post? - Brian Sullivan

This reminds me of that "following directions" test from grade school. 1. Read all instructions before beginning. (2 -> N-1). Lots of crazy instructions which we all did. N. Don't do any of the previous instructions. Turn the page over, write your name, and wait. - Don Faulkner

Robert Freeze, that never worked for me - Amit Morson

Go watch Perez Hilton's video about being beaten up last night and going on techcrunch - Mark

time for a pint :-p - tony bland

Robert Freeze that worked. that should be labeled a bit better - Ron Hudson

Andy: I didn't tell you to read all the comments! :-) - Robert Scoble

If I reply here that I think it's less than 53% I may actually prove myself wrong. So be it. - Arnd Jan Gulmans

Should be a rewind and play button so you can play back all the comments.. like google wave - Qbat

Lots of users are already on the service but, under utilize it. Really still don't understand how powerful the service is or how to use the filtering system. - Eric Logan

And how many minutes/comments-in does the Scobalizer stop reading the comments? Opps, I just see that we are not supposed to "read" to comments...only discuss them. - Stephen Price

Thats cause they were busy seeing what I am doing!! LOL, your not the only person bossing people around. - T.S. Elliott

How big is the percentage of your followers that doesn't follow you? - Arnd Jan Gulmans

I love Friend Feed! - Robert Freeze

Click here for 101 ways to get rich ... Woooops, sorry wrong percentage group. - Chris Spencer

The reason I don't use friendfeed very much is because there is no SocialScope support on my blackberry. As soon as I can get a sweet blackberry app I'll be here more. - Ron Hudson

Now if I can just get my mom on here. http://www.building43.com/blogs... - Robert Freeze

I don't want to be in the wrong group. :P - Sheryl

Ron: http://fftogo.com - Tom Griffin

Tim: I'm a 65%er :) Though I am now in the 13.9% that skim comments to see what's going on. And also in the 29.4% of people managing to find replies to their comments in the Scobleflow. Definitely in the 100% of people wanting a Comment link at the end of each conversation since I moved back to Safari. Oh, and also in the 100% of people who take conversations off topic while making up statistics. - Andy Bold

Done, in. - Thom Kennon

Tom Griffin, I saw that, and it's "usable" but it's nowhere near the elegance and simplicity of say UberTwitter,SocialScope, or TweetGenious. I use SocialScope. It is an absolute Killer app. - Ron Hudson

Do I get partial credit for skimming the comments? No? Sorry, master. - malackey

Cool, so, I'm in the 47%, 35%, 29.4%, 100% and 100% ranges! I'm all over the place. Thanks Scoble and Andy for helping me learn something new about myself. - Tim Young

I see the "224 more comments" bit on FF and know I don't need to add another comment. Erm... - Ian Betteridge

FFtogo doesn't auto-refresh - Ron Hudson

To follow or not to follow, or to passive follow versus have an active conversation? - Peter Simoons

More stats: 41% will miss Robert's reply to them in the reply flood, 26% will see it and not answer, 22% will have ADD (the tech curse) and already be doing something else, and 1% will see the reply and see it as an excuse to make up some more statistics. (And reply that I definitely have not read all the comments ;-) ) - Andy Bold

It's all about the user experience though - it's easier to comment to someone's question on Twitter by quickly clicking @ than click a link through to FF, faff about sizing the screen on the screen to wait for the comments to load, read them and then post, so yeah, I can see why many respond on Twitter than FF. I'm doing that more myself as currently very busy with work projects. This... more... - Sally Church

And, somewhere in the horde, somebody will belatedly realise that he somehow manages to fall into Robert Scoble's "useful" list. Darn it - will need to post more signal and less noise now! ;) - Andy Bold

I refuse to fall prey to this ruse, Robert. Oh...wait... ;) - Robert J Taylor

I added you to my Live acct weeks ago. No reply. - Bret

I'm too sleepy to read all this right now. - Daniel Zarick

clever early morning link-bait - Jake Ludington

nice one :) you should do an NHST on that hahaha - The Pageman

They should change that from "followers" to something like "watchers" or "subscribers". As in "I have a subscription to the Scoble lifestream." - Steve Lynch from twhirl

discuss (Would hate to be useless) - Charlie Anzman

So is this a casual social experiment to determine rough percentages of active/rabid users who like to engage/participate with those they follow? - Eden Hensley

I completely agree! Unfortunately I might be considered part of that 53%! The only reason I am responding is because someone else I follow re-tweeted it. I personally have over 5000 followers but only regularly interact with 50 or so. Isn't Social Media about conversation and being engaging? Hmmm...... - Robert Dominguez

Robert: Very interesting experiment, one should use there own judgment over there (twitter) regarding bots and spammers. - Eran Even-Kesef

@Scoble: I'm listening. What are you going to say, or what did I miss? - Jason Cronkhite from Alert Thingy

It is a direction. Anybody must walk all alone ... so, what is the point? - bishoph

same here, most people don't read - Michael Reese

Smile and wave boys, smile and wave:) - Rick Bucich

I too am tired of blocking spam followers on twitter... - W_B_K

great man！！no protect update.... and i just follow ..i 'd like be the unless fllower..lol~~ - HealingBrush

Not being a bot, I am compelled to follow directions. - Randall Fink

I am useless :-( - Andrew

Re blackberry access, try http://friendfeed.com/iPhone - it's supposed to look good on BB too - Andy Bold from email

Andy Bold, I played with iPhone page too, but it's just a pain to have to open the browser. The blackberry environment is all about easy simple communication. If I have to jump through hoops it breaks down. Not to mention a friend feed experience without push is not a friendfeed experience.\ - Ron Hudson

99% of your followers will not read the 250 comments proceeding this one, and I am one of those 99% - Steve C

That'll teach me for ignoring Twitter for a few minutes a couple of hours ago! Late as usual. - Graham Stewart

Hey, much better here! Twitter sux.... after getting locked out of @freddavis for months with NO reply from Twitter, even after you tweeted @ev and @biz (thanks!)... so I my new Twitter name is @fucktwtr ... but much better to use FriendFeed! - Fred Davis

I almost thought that you have a big ego. :) - Shuuro

followers are for cults. twitter should change to readers/reading, because at the end of the day this is all about reading - Jim Posner

Adding my opinion to the rollcall, though I've just realized that i actually have no opinion on this. - Chris Foley

Clever. :-) - Patrick Ward

To much noise, the good data is lost. - Adam Mesenbrink

Yes to much noice. Maybe a way to mark comments as good could be a way to filter the comments. - Daniel Graversen

Adam, I think that's a limitation with the threaded discussion model of FriendFeed - it becomes very, very difficult to follow a conversation once it goes beyond a hundred or so comments. Of course, Scoble will come up with a search filter which makes it easy in about three comments from now, just to prove I'm wrong... :) - Ian Betteridge

I didn't realize followers were supposed to do what their followees said. Does that mean I have to open those links to help me make money on twitter? I was just using it for communication. Silly me. - RobinDotNet

Robin: communication takes someone on the other side listening and talking back. - Robert Scoble

Useless to YOU, perhaps. I'll bet they are getting value from the info you rpovide. Social media doesn't have to be about communication, it can be about "transmitting information" or some other morer restrcitive definition of what goes on. Some people just like to listen! - Jim Tierney

Useful post :) - Krishnamoorthy

Agreed! There are those like me who sit in shadows, read and do not comment... oh wait, crap! - Danny F Santos

Talking back is definitely good, but I'm still not clicking on those links telling me I can make money on twitter. I do talk back to people (as evidenced here). :-) So you have a lot of followers who don't. Do they even tweet? Can anyone explain why people join twitter and don't tweet? - RobinDotNet

Jim: I'm not a broadcast, though. Are people who just consume really useful? - Robert Scoble

And BTW, if you don't realize the value your personal brand gets from having those 48,000 followers whether they reply back or not, you're missing something! - Jim Tierney

Robin: people are used to consuming info and not talking back. I understand that. Jim: there is some value in having lots of consumers, yes. I just aspire to more. - Robert Scoble

lucky you that non all of them have an active role in your FF... how can you think of have an interaction wth so many people? - Paolo Galli from IM

I think you math is waaaaaaaay off. Looks like somewhere around 0.3125%(300/96,000 - rounding up) of your followers are useful, meaning you should edit your comment to say 99.7% of your followers. Really makes me wonder the true value of twitter if one of the top uses gets this percentage of useful following. The other possibility is that as followers increase, the percentage of attentive/usefull/whatever-you-want-to-call-it decreases. - Robert D. Fraser

Paolo: I've had interactions with tens of thousands of people here on friendfeed, just not all at the same time. Robert: you're right. :-) - Robert Scoble

Do you think those non-tweeting-twitterers sit at their desk and read all the tweets coming across? Or are they looking for something specific. - RobinDotNet

Scoble: You are asking questions and experimenting with stuff that I find interesting. Just reading through this thread provides some interesting insights into users' perspectives on Twitter. - Matthew Schrock

Is that southeastweb thing from a bot or some kind? - RobinDotNet

Robin: I think it's a spammer. But at least it's a spammer that follows directions. That said I think I'm going to block it. - Robert Scoble

Blocked. - Robert Scoble

Scoble you really can do it? I'm very impressed :) I'm jocking... I think many users on the web just read information but doesn't partecipate... it's to difficult ;) - Paolo Galli from IM

97.2% of all statistics are made up. - Jason A. Nunnelley

Tekany: and the statistics that aren't made up can mislead. :-) - Robert Scoble

Seeing a spammer blocked just makes me feel warm all over. It's so awesome. - RobinDotNet

I am exceptionally useless. - Geoff Schultz

Geoff: that's why I follow you! :-) - Robert Scoble

Following instructions is way overrated - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

That's what I'll have on my next business card: Scoble found me useful, what about you ? - Antoine Bertier

RTFM or GTFO said the BOFH. - Jon Winters

I like threads like this. As well as pointing out who it may be useful for me to subscribe, that I haven't already, you get the occasional comment that allows you to increase your "People blocked" count by 100%... - Andy Bold from email

Although at this point I would welcome someone giving me instructions as to the next steps in life - far too many options. Maybe I should crowdsource it, but I am certain not to like the results - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Robert: To be honest, I think sometimes folks are intimidated by the breadth of knowledge that you and others on FF seem to have and your ability to engage in discussions. They may feel that they need to say something 'brilliant' or not say anything. I will admit that that I fell into that category up until recently. To your (and others') credit, once I took the plunge I found that this wasn't the case. You guys still know WAY more than I do, but that's one of the reasons I'm here - to learn! - Alex Hellstrom

@scobleizer you crack me up sometimes! There, see this post went to you in both places... But I don't really feel like discussing it... ;-P - Walt Ruppar

Walt: heh. - Robert Scoble

LOL! Great job of being satirical! You have a lot of great followers. :) - James Stratford

Just sayin I could follow directions and discuss here if I wanted, but not interested in this discussion. However it did make me laugh that you called 53% of your followers out on not being able to follow directions. - Walt Ruppar

Alex, uhm like totally and stuff ... and uhm. Ya know. Cool. - Jason Nunnelley

BTW: where'd you see my reply come in from first? FF or as a mention over on twiiter? - Walt Ruppar

Walt: here on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

Robert, you dropped your twitter response button. Makes sense, but was it purely to reduce redundancy? - Jason Nunnelley

viewing people as "useful" is problematic..useful to who?..tools are "useful'...people not so much...helpful may be a more precise word. - Jim Posner

Jim, wordsmith! - Jason Nunnelley

Hi - Tyler (Chacha)

.LOLz...great thread! - .LAG liked that

Twitter to me seems a big mess of information, I can't keep up with it! FF sorts the mess out nicely and without the spam. I much prefer FF. - Matthew Davis

Jim: you're right of course. I was just trying to be an egotistical bbbaaaahhhhssssttttaaaarrrrrdddd to get a conversation going. Jason: what did I drop? I didn't do it on purpose. - Robert Scoble

Damn it Robert, you got me to make an account here three days ago, what more can I do for you? ;-P - Shane Trammell

Robert, you are smart - Arvind

This is an easy way to get rid of bots. They don't have anything intelligent to share (like me)! - Carlton Prest

WTG sheeple for getting conned into commenting here... wait. um. - Scott Breakall

Robert, what if people want to reply and be engaging but don't feel like they have anything of value to say / to add to the discussion? - Wang Yip

Scott: Perhaps, but at least I un-liked it... - Walt Ruppar

Robert - what is the point of this? I took carrot... - Liza

Robert, I just put the lime in the coconut. Now what? - Sue Radd

Robert-Great discussion at 140, BTW. On another topic just watched the Perez Hilton video and trying to get my head around that rant..if you haven't seen it you should watch both sides of the feud with will.i.am. Interesting use of twitter and video to address insult/outrage. - Jim Posner

Sue, like it. - Liza

Yahoo Inbox: 178 messages. 132 are notifications of new comments here. Good job. :) - Tim Young

Ok now I "get" this FriendFeed experience. - Ron Hudson

lots of people commenting here--I wonder if it has to do with the time of day more than the topic - Brent R Jones

I have a fear of being useless. - Ron Wening

I hope I'm not within the 53% - Michela Cimnaghi /cimny

I follow Mr. Scoble, but I feel no particular obligation to be useful to him for anything. - Pat Rice from twhirl

Twitter rocks, but I'm starting to see more value in FriendFeed - Adam

I just drove from Pierre SD to Fort Totten ND, so I'm a little bit groggy. What exactly was I supposed to do to pass Robert Scoble's version of a Turing Test? Also, is it really important that people think I'm not a bot? I bet there is still money in AI. - Matthew McCowan

Is that percentage of useless followers greater or less on Twitter. (I think I can predict your answer!) - Curt Mercadante

"I would never want to belong to any club that would have someone like me for a member." - jacek

This thread is taking me a long time to read when I haven't had coffee yet today. - Jannifer @wordsforliving

So, my understanding is.. one who doesn't give 'directions' to his followers is useless too. Mmhhh! yeah - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Robert - there's nothing egotistical about it! I'd also be remiss if I didn't add that I get plenty of thought-provoking value from you even when in "read-only" mode. Understandably my usefulness to you is nil in those cases. However (and I'm echoing at least one other commenter here: IRONY ALERT) I've found that by the time I comment in this type of thread, my exact thoughts have... more... - Jim Tierney

I just hope Scobleizer never directs me to do something self-destructive. I hate it when that happens. - DGentry

I don't think lurker are useless :), I don't think number of followers have a great significance, Friendfeed is a Virtual Life Streaming, and in virtual life (as in real life) some people don't have a direction, they live (however i prefer LIVE with all capital letters, and have a direction!!!). - CantorJF

90% of community members lurk. - l0ckergn0me

Twitter has become useless for any sort of participation - Jorge Escobar

Really, you Are scaring - Eta from Nambu

here. - metalerik

Yay for the other 47%. - Colette

Does this post count as "discussing?" - Mark +lil green Marky

So if we post here, are we teacher's pets? :) - Daynah

Members of the "TV Generation" are just not used to follow directions... (they sit and consume with chips&beer and maybe do some shopping via telephone - these are a well trained habits and hard to change)... - Arne Krueger

I thought I'd contribute further to this discussion... you're welcome. - Mark +lil green Marky

I'm jumping up for another cup of tea, be right back... - Deborah E. Bifulco

There clearly comes a point of scale where FriendFeed fails to delivery clarity...nothing useful on the first screenful or last... does that mean that 47% of your followers are unable to provide significant value? - David Race

Will there be and end of this direction? Do we want to close directions? I think somewhen even directions become useless - Vedran Rudelj

delivering significant value to ff and/or the subscribers depends on the roi they get... some people are just not using it - as it is intendet to be used. so what!? - Arne Krueger

If technology fails you, next time you are in Memphis lets get together for lunch. Great value remains in human contact. - Jeff Milton

That is priceless - Keith - @tsudo

I am not a bot, I am huma ... wait, oh yeah, I am a bot .... never mind, back to being useless. - John

Bots are human too. - Thom Kennon

No one say anything useful, otherwise this will have meaning. - Liza from email

Liza: shhhh. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

I found this thread useful. - Mike Nencetti

Love these types of threads - quite enjoyable! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Oh, yeah? - Baard @ Pixum

O Captain! My Captain! - Nicola Mattina

Commenting so I'm not included in the useless category... Also, I'd love to chat about this the next time you're around the FF office. - Ross Miller

There are 3 kinds of people in the world: 1. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he doesn't act like he's too good to talk to us. 2. Those that follow Robert Scoble because he is known to follow everyone back, and therefore he is good for "inflating" their follower count. 3. Those who have no idea why they are following Robert Scoble. - April Russo (app103)

4th type of person follows for great feeds that generate discussion on FF. - Mike Nencetti

April, you forgot the fourth category: 4. Those who don't subscribe to Robert Scoble but find far too many of his posts liked and commented by their friends. - Scott of Two Countries

But the only reason why Robert generates great discussions is because he is part of that discussion. He doesn't just drop & run, or only talk to people he thinks are "somebody", completely ignoring the rest of us. While he may have a big ego, it isn't so big that he thinks he's too good to have a real conversation with us. - April Russo (app103)

53%? That seems a generous estimate. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

Rob: I have almost 42,000 followers here and 96,000 followers on Twitter, which comes out to 43%. Glad someone caught me on my math! :-) - Robert Scoble

My casual research indicates about 1% will respond. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

I can't put my finger on it, but I feel somehow manipulated...? - Mark +lil green Marky

even if they don't respond there is something to be said about passive observing- no? - michael sean wright

You call this a discussion? - Phil Boiarski

Phil: this is not a discussion. It's a lot of people following directions. :-) - Robert Scoble

Hi Robert, nice experiment! - Luis Enrique León

Aye aye Cap'n Scoble. Sorry I'm late but I just got done eating a plate of waffles in some diner in midtown NYC... - Aaron Strout

53% of your followers aren't followers in the sheep sense. That's a good thing. Lose the other 47% - C. K. Sample III

C. K. why must you self loathe on my thread? - Robert Scoble

I feel kind of funny. - Mike Nayyar

It's not easy being part of the 47% - Aidan Mann

I am not a sheep! Oh wait, maybe I am. - adam garrett

RS - The puppet master : ) - Mark Harai

I feel compelled to comment here... odd - Jan Ole Peek

Mark: who is the puppet master and who is the puppet? I'm answering you now. - Robert Scoble

Just following directions. Too many Mark's here though, I wish FF signed thing with our usernames. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

You can change your display name any time by clicking on your name in the top right corner. - Mark

Robert: communication still occurs when unidirectional, surely the works of Socrates convey concepts to readers even today? - Mike Chelen

Wow! It wasn't till I finished reading through almost all the comments that I got what Robert was trying to say :) FF good, Twitter bad. But I can't complain since it was Leo Laportes constant references to FF that got me to join and Roberts comments that got me to try and really understand what FF is all about. Initially FF was a little overwhelming and the only reason I've stuck it through so far is because of the higher quality of content for a (mostly) passive FFer. - Anant Gairola

Writing that last comment took me 10 minutes! Really really wish there was a good FF iPhone application!!! - Anant Gairola

Anant: the content here keeps getting better as more and more people join (which is quite a few every week lately, my numbers are going up much faster here than on Twitter, the tides are starting to move). - Robert Scoble

baa baa - Kim Landwehr

I'm sorry... did you say something? - Sean

You have no Idea how tempting it is to reshare this - and discuss it over there >>>>>>>>>> - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

No rain, no rainbows.. - BryanSchuetz

FF is the only place I can dip into your content 'at will', Twitter is to noisy and makes me dig a lot further to see the flow of conversation and any associated references. - Threepwood

I like to lurk most of the time. I usually don't have much to add by the time I am able to read the whole thread. - Dan Douglass from Nambu

I'm with Dan (above). - Miss Elle from fftogo

Better late than never! - John Rubier

tag - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Testing the maximum for FF comments? :P - Barbara

Are you happy with how friendfeed is developing? What would you change, if you were in control? I love the daily digests, I prefer something filtering the best content from those I follow - Ryan Singer

first post... wait. - Aaron Baer

following........ - sirishkumar

amazing post. - Guy Vander Heyden

Suivez moi? - Gordon Joly

Oui, monsieur Gordon ! Où allons nous ? - Brome

<----- not a bot so what percent does that make me? - Howell Selburn from BuddyFeed

bleet bleet - Sriks7

Master is our friend! - Rick Cogley

Adding myself to the list :) - TiTi

Why a follower must follow direction? :) - Christine Yang from BuddyFeed

Lead, follow or whatever...Info on Neda http://tinyurl.com/nm9xdn - JoWazzoo

:) - Tony

This is a wicked and interesting post on FriendFeed =) - Qbat

by the way some of my twitter followers complain that, like you, I redirect them to friendfeed on every post there. Some say I have to choose between the two and they will follow me there, but not on both services. - Kostantinos Koukopoulos

Kostantinos: it's an open question how best to interconnect FF and Twitter. remember that there are a wide range of options, including sending comments or posts, and sending posts automatically or manually. the feedback from readers is helpful if it can be used to find the right balance - Mike Chelen

53% of your followers will leave you and then what? insult the other 47%. You can't just say it that way. You need to treat your followers with respect. Especially when you are your biggest fan. People will leave you in a heartbeat. - Jack Scalfani

Be a nice little follower, and drink the damn kool-aid! - James

Robert Scoble

Happy Father's Day. My thoughts are with one father. Here's who and why:

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My worst nightmare is losing one of my own sons in front of my eyes. Yesterday we saw a father hold his daughter as she died in the most horrific way I could imagine. Those images kept me from sleeping well last night. Neda is her name. Her dad was holding her as she died. He named her Neda, which means "beautiful voice." Yesterday his beautiful voice was silenced. Today he is the father I'm thinking of. - Robert Scoble

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Yes, her eyes looking up at the camera and father repeating "stay with me" strike to the core of life (and death) - Ronald Barnett

"We make a few simple points about the events transpiring over the past week in Iran. The Iranian regime is an evil tyranny. It supports terrorists and terrorism. The United States has a debt of honor to settle with it for the kidnapping and mistreatment of American hostages thirty years ago. That disgrace is not simply a matter of history. It is a disgrace in which Iran's execrable president personally participated. We remember." -- http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive... - Craig Eddy

She has become the face of an entire generation in Iran. I can't even imagine being this father. His daughter's face is going to be lots of places he looks and it won't be a pretty smiling face, but the one we all saw on YouTube yesterday. That's not how I'd like to remember my sons, if that ever happened to me. - Robert Scoble

Craig: I've been thinking about that too. Iran has sacrificed any moral authority it had to tell USA off. Now we see how brutal its government is. - Robert Scoble

Seeing her [Neda] look directly in the camera for her last breath was more sad & horrifying than seeing all the blood rush out of her seconds later. My heart broke at that moment. - Michael J. Carrasquillo

Michael: yup. And she, at that moment, became the face of Iran's new generation and -- I believe -- changed the world forever in a way thousands of deaths couldn't. But what a father's sacrifice it took. - Robert Scoble

Here is a comment by a spectator "At 19:05 June 20th Place: Karekar Ave., at the corner crossing Khosravi St. and Salehi st. A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed... more... - Amiroo ™

Amiroo: that is another thing that has changed. The fact that so many of us have the ability to tell the world about what we are experiencing and show it to others via video has changed the world in ways we are just starting to understand. - Robert Scoble

It's a terrible tragedy for any father to witness the death of his own children. May their sacrifices make it all the more less likely that more people have to suffer in the same ways. This shows that no longer can governments hide tyranny with repression of the people. The people will be heard, and their voices will change the world. Yes Robert, this changed the world forever in ways that a war with thousands of deaths could never. This is much more personal, to anyone who sees it. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

She knew the risk she was taking by being on the street, and thus even by 'standing aside' was taking part. “Those who join the battle are all in the front lines” - Aaman (Clone of FF)

no doubt about it. Now we all can feel the importance of UGC for the future of our world. If we don't have these social movements around you may not even know about the things happening in Iran. (remember CNNFail!?) - Amiroo ™

Michael: for me as well, it was her eyes looking (or not) that has stayed with me vs. the bloodied image at the end. - Ronald Barnett

Aaman: all those who go on the streets are brave. My wife's relatives in Iran all say they haven't left their homes since Saturday. - Robert Scoble

Aaman:There's no battle, there is one sided murder - Amiroo ™

What stayed with me the most is the father's reaction. That was truly horrifying. - Leon Freyermuth

Amiroo: There is one sided murder, but that doesn't mean there is no battle. Those people in the streets are battling plenty. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

My father used to say, to be willing to achieve anything, you have to be willing to pay any price. - Aaman (Clone of FF)

Aaman: Your father was right - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob: yes but we hope they don't. The only possible way to win this is by silent resistance (you know like Gandhi). There's isn't any winner when violence steps in. - Amiroo ™

Amiroo: Neda wasn't violent. She was silent and her "crime" was just being in the streets. That's one reason her image has even more power. If she had been violent her image wouldn't have had as much power. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I need to post your first comment. It is heartbreaking, thoughtful and filled with compassion! - Myrna

Yeah that's the way to go though such a sad way unfortunately - Amiroo ™

Happy father's day to you too :) - FFTornado

Robert is correct, and that is the sort of non-violent protest that starts and completes great movements. I have not seen many images of violent protesters. I have seen an image of protesters caring for a wounder policeman though. This IS the behavior that the likes of Ghandi taught. To engage in true non-violence protest, you must be willing to pay any price. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Amiroo: It is unbelievably sad, but the power that she and her father bring to this struggle, may just be the power that's necessary to avoid any further large scale conflict, either between the people of Iran and their government, or between the US (or Israel) and Iran. We can hope. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob:Hopefully, but the anger that this may generate between people may lead to violent acts and slogans that actually I think the government needs to block them. I really hope people continue that way they did till now - Amiroo ™

Amiroo: I cannot agree with your statement "I think the government needs to block them" . That is precisely the problem, is the governments around the world trying to dictate what their people can say, do, and watch, and listen to. That is precisely the problem in Iran today. I pray that that image doesn't lead to more violence, but I also understand that at a certain point, there is a necessity to fight fire with fire. Let's pray that the government of Iran can see the light before the violence escalates. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Rob:If it goes that way it won't be any fight fire with fire it will be punch with fire - Amiroo ™

Amiroo: Don't underestimate the power of the people, and don't overestimate the loyalty of the military to the government. Often it is the combination of these two factors that make violence all the more unnecessary. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Robert Your powerful comment of Neda's face not being what her father wants to remember recalled for me a recent case right here in the USA of a family that has made desperate efforts to get their daughter's fatal car accident photos off the Internet which were leaked by the police. What is this saying about us and our use of the Internet? It's the same argument that was brought against... more... - Melanie Reed

Melanie: I am a free speech advocate. While I would not like it, I am going to defend it. Her face has become one of the iconic images of this struggle. How much has it changed the world? But yes, free speech is not always fun and games. I have to defend speech that often is objectionable if I am to defend our first amendment. - Robert Scoble

this moment is the perfect time to remind everyone that the most successful resistance is the kind that allows you to live for another day; to _continue_ the fight. yes, there are times when tragic things happen, but this is _not_ the goal. martyrdom is not success. i know this video will reverberate around the world. i only hope the proper message will accompany it, too. - MikeAmundsen

Rob:Well the problem is most (if not all) of this violence hasn't made by typical military forces, there are lots of so called Basij forces which are in the same side with the government also I think even if it succeed by fighting violently there would be such a big price to pay - Amiroo ™

Robert, I am as well. Ironically, I am in the midst of writing a piece on this to expose a particular rhetoric that cuts it off. However, as with all things, there is always a line that protects us from extremes (which are very horrific things) while protecting that freedom of speech we cherish. Any freedoms we have, if not exercised with love, become in themselves a prison to ourselves and to those who are hurt by their corrupt exercise. - Melanie Reed

Amiroo: Then let's ensure that all our own thoughts are on the side of success without violence. The more people that think about a given outcome (and talk about it, etc) the more likely that is to become the truth. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Would like to second the early comment about Iran's leaderships lost ability to claim moral authority of any kind. Its clear their oppressive government is more than willing to use brutal, thoughtless, violence to keep control. Imagine what they would do to the world with a nuke. They may not have ordered her killing but they built their power on the backs of brutal militias willing to do it and have not called them back. - James Watters

Good G*d, I didn't know that was her father with her. That is just heartbreaking. :..( - Laserone

:( Happy father's day to you, and god bless your sons:( - Mah/Mah

I too would like to add to the heart felt comments left here. Nothing quite brings it home more than seeing that innocent young woman lose her life like that. I only viewed it the once as I felt it was wrong to want to view a second time and felt almost voyeuristic in the worst way imaginable. It was brutal, sad and upsetting. Let us think of her family at this time aside from all the politics. - Kevin J Hatton

Robert I have been thinking of: Neda, people who want to "be heard", raising awareness to influence change, and the green overlay on our icon... Why don't we do a "Web Neda's day" vs a "minute of silence" by putting all an overlay of Green on our websites for 24 h (a little bit like Google put a different logo once in a while on its home page) . Her name was Neda, you explained it means "beautiful Voice". Robert You are the incredible hulk, I am sure you could be the one turning the web in green for 1 day. - Harscoat

Chris Baskind

A lot of the Western tweets regarding Iran I'm seeing are doing more harm than good. We cannot spread rumors -- they're not useful to the folks inside Iran. The worst thing I'm seeing now are tweets about making weapons.

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Well said Chris - Charlie Anzman

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Iranians are far more acquainted with war then we are -- we needn't tell them how to do battle. The Green leadership has repeatedly called for non-violence. And militaristic outside prattle gives credence to government claims of foreign agitation. - Chris Baskind

BTW, I don't mean discussion amongst ourselves. I'm talking about broadcasting rumors as fact on Twitter. Robert has been talking about the tanks rumor, for instance, but he's not telling Iranians to dig tank traps in the streets, nor presenting it as gospel. - Chris Baskind

Agree Chris! - Myrna

Is the Iranian internet community really paying attention to us westerners anyway? I got the impression that the bulk of their traffic was in Persian with a few interfaces to update us and exchange proxy info. I would think they are weeding out poor info on the other side of the language gap. - Shane Trammell

David Brooks (http://www.nytimes.com/2009...) has been conveying a good perspective on this, IMHO. He noted two things: first, that the signs at the protests were in English, meaning the message was for US. Second, we in the West like to think we have a strong point of view, but there are tens of thousands of local authorities of all sorts of ideologies on the ground over there and we shouldn't expect we can shout our perspective over top of all of that. - Scotty Perkins

Well, I certainly hope the Iranian demonstrators know of our love and concern for them. But they have better info about what's happening than we do, and the help we can offer isn't tactical. As far as proxy info goes, I hope they're only paying attention to known and trusted sources. - Chris Baskind

Scotty: Yes, the English signs are for the outside world, and it's good to let them know we are seeing them. - Chris Baskind

We need to help them with guides on how to set up public Wi-Fi network to help them to link up and pass info around - Michael Mooney

Micheal- I believe the dark underbelly of the internet (The Pirate Bay, Anon ect) have been doing just that and more. - Shane Trammell

Shane: The impression I had after watching a great number of tweets yesterday was that you're absolutely correct. I get more the impression that those involved have brief moments to tweet outbound information, and may pay attention to a VERY small number of their own friends' tweets. I find it valuable to tweet information of A) Confirmed Events (i.e. w/video) B) Suggestions for Westerners' Action (how to set up proxies, where to send proxy info - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Chris Baskind

Iran's Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani says that a majority of Iranians believe election results were different than announced. He's calling on the Guardian Council to respect the will of the people. He also implored Iranian media not to inflame the opposition. And he did all this on state-run TV Saturday night....

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This is amazing. Not only did the Speaker make these statements on official TV, it's being reported on PressTV.ir -- the Iranian government's English language website. - Chris Baskind

And here's the link, sorry: http://www.presstv.ir/detail... - Chris Baskind

Robert Scoble

An Apple iPhone 3GS sunset: - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...

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Hope tomorrow brings you a great Father's Day. Here is my first sunset with the iPhone 3GS. The penultimate sunset. Tomorrow is the longest day of of the year. - Robert Scoble

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Nice! - David

Impressive - D Lets

So I guess that makes tomorrow the shortest day in the year for me - here in the Southern Hemisphere of course. - Clifford Kennedy

same to you! tomorrow may need to be a Sam's Chowder House day...followed by a nap and some US Open of course. - Tim Connors

Nice picture.I'm jealous. I dropped my iPhone 3G in a glass of water in January (don't ask how) and had to buy a new one, and Apple gave me a price break, so now I'm not eligible to buy an iPhone 3GS unless I pay $699 - RobinDotNet

Very nice, Robert. Missing the Bay Area already. - Scotty Perkins

So here's the question, dude. Is it worth $699 to upgrade from an iPhone 3G? - RobinDotNet

And is it colder in Half Moon Bay than it is over here in the East Bay (it's 60)? - RobinDotNet

Didn't Apple/AT&T adjust the prices for current iPhone owners to upgrade? - David Damore

David -- some of them. If I hadn't bought a new one in January and Apple gave me the discount so I only paid $299 then, I'd probably be able to get a new one for $299 now. Dang. - RobinDotNet

It's only a price break for people who are "upgrade eligible". - RobinDotNet

I hear the new iPhone OS lets you email more than one photo in a single message. How do you do that? - Bruce Lewis

Bruce -- I opened one of the folders of photos on my iPhone showing all the pics in the folder, and clicked the button in the bottom left-hand corner that is usually used to e-mail a picture. It lets you select multiple photos. (Click again to deselect) . Then click the Share button. - RobinDotNet

You can also click Copy, then go create a new mail message, click in the body of the e-mail, and click on Paste. It pastes in the pictures. - RobinDotNet

I think you still can't attach the pics from e-mail; you have to start in the photos. - RobinDotNet

Robin: It is much colder here in HMB, heavy onshore winds are making it even colder. Its about 50°F if that less with the wind chill. - Luke Kilpatrick

Robin: I paid $400 for a 16GB because I wasn't eligible for an upgrade either. Is it worth it? It is for me. But then I paid $600 for my first iPhone. - Robert Scoble

Luke -- Thanks. That sounds great. Had a friend visit last summer. It was 107 here, and I told her to bring warm clothes to go to Pt. Reyes. She didn't believe me. It was 50 up there. Awesome. - RobinDotNet

welcome home - Josh Haley

Robert -- that's kind of how I feel about it. But $700 is a lot of cashola. But then, all I ever buy is books, music, and electronics. So it's probably worth it to me too. - RobinDotNet

Here is Robert taking the above picture of Sunset in Half moon bay. http://twitpic.com/7z7jp - Luke Kilpatrick

Luke -- that's great! Pretty funny. - RobinDotNet

Nice shot Luke! :-) - Robert Scoble

Thanks, decent subject matter :) - Luke Kilpatrick

If you guys get any more chummy, you'll have to get a room. ;-) - RobinDotNet

Beautiful shot! I was just getting around to trying the camera myself:) - Michael Fidler

Rub it in, all you iPhone3GS-ers. I thought I was going to be able to hold out a year until my contract runs out, but I'm lying to myself. It's a miracle I haven't already bought one. - RobinDotNet

I am still hoping to get a Pre, I can't stand AT&T anymore. Anyone compared the camera's on the Pre to the 3GS? - Luke Kilpatrick

I love the 3.0mpix on my new 3GS iPhone ... the picture focus-box thingy is very cool; plus, nice closeups. overall picture quality is really sharp, excellent stabilization too. I uploaded a iPhone video to YouTube in very easily... super fun and useful!! - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed

Great shot - Patrick Jordan

Luke: I will tomorrow. - Robert Scoble

Luke -- I hate AT&T too. I'm thinking if I pay $699 this year, then when (she says hopefully) Verizon is signed as the new carrier next year, I can get one w/o having to worry about my AT&T contract. Dirtbags. Bottomfeeders. Scumbugs. Idiots. Lowlifes. PantyWastes. (Not that I'm bitter.) - RobinDotNet

I'm betting Apple isn't too keen on AT&T any more either, after being pretty much laughed at during the WWDC last week. - RobinDotNet

Is there a FriendFeed application for the iPhone? - RobinDotNet

Robert Scoble

The girl who died this morning in Iran died for a simple human need: to be heard. I will think about her every tweet I do for the rest of my life.

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Do we take our rights to free speech for granted? Yes we do. No more. - Robert Scoble

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Bet you have the most likes on this thread Robert! Tears.... - Myrna

Also taken for granted: Access to technology. - Justin Hopkins

Thank you, Robert. I will remember too. - Mike Lewis

Re-read the FIrst Amendment of the US constitution, and be thankful that there is separation of church & state. - Donald Wilson

Don't forget to think about the few million people who are going to die from hunger this year too: http://www.google.com/hostedn... - Sergi

@Donald Huh? - Dave "Freedom 35"

It's over for the Mullahs now. - Mike R

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. - Donald Wilson

I just saw the video. I'm not sharing it here, but I'll remember it for the rest of my life. I really have no words. - Orli Yakuel

Thanks Robert, sometimes we forget what means to be FREE! - Simone Lovati from BuddyFeed

Heart wrenching!! - Donald Wilson

Simone: being free is not the same as being heard. The Iranians aren't fighting for freedom. They are fighting to have their voices listened to. The guy they are supporting isn't all that great either, if you look into his past and, anyway, above them is a religiously-run government. A fight for a free Iran will play out another day. This fight is simply to be heard. That's what that girl died for this morning. - Robert Scoble

No Robert! This is the key point! They are not free to speak, they are not free to say NO and for this reason they are not be heard! - Simone Lovati from BuddyFeed

Simone: that makes sense, I agree, that if they were heard they would be free. I'd rather focus on what they want, rather than pushing American values, though. Freedom is gained step by step. Heck, even here in the United States we aren't completely free and aren't completely being listened to. Just try to get a gay marriage, for instance. - Robert Scoble

I agree sometimes people just forget there is always someone worse off than you... Life is crazy.. - Chris Henderson

Hi Robert why aren't you in Green overlay for your icon? (or in your hulk icon). I think it is simple to show the world we are green in support of free Iran election. but maybe I miss sthg you know as you are more up to date on the situation than many of us. - Harscoat

Harscoat: because being green isn't going to help anything. I'd rather spend the time building better searches and trying to find more information. - Robert Scoble

We should all # her name but what was it - Michael Mooney

Thanks Robert. I agree with what you say. For me being green just show the people in Iran in a very simple visual manner that we are in thoughts with them. This is only a first and not very concrete step I agree... and we should do more in sincere and respectful memory of this women of Iran... This image of the abyssal waste of a life, her life is devastating. - Harscoat

Harscoat: Then why are you not green? - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

LOL Rob, she's green on twitter. Hey CNN person calling in from Iran just said he uses FF, fb and twitter. - Myrna

sorry Rob not on ff but I am green on twitter... - Harscoat

Harscoat, same with me. Just changed to green avatar on twitter. Don't know why I didn't on FF. - Myrna

Robert: I don't necessarily agree. It helps people ask "why are you green?" And people who weren't paying attention (because it wasn't in the news spotlights) are because they noticed that /everyone/ was green. I am green on Twitter/FF/FB. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Totally agreed Robert, locally i hear continuous arguments whether the opposition in Iran is any different regarding Nukes or Politics. My only reply was that it's not the issue now, Iranians simply yearn liberty and freedom of speech that we were born with. The opposition has progressive views about freedom and the people deserve our support. With all that said, i personally fear the... more... - Majento

Every tweet we make (for good or ill) is possible because of the sacrifices of those who came before us (great or small). We did not earn these freedoms. They are a gift given to us without merit. In many ways, those who are on the streets of Tehran today have earned the very freedoms that we casually discount. I am grateful that someone like myself has been given the many gifts necessary to speak freely about the issues I care about - whether noble or ignoble. - Lorin Olsen

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