Now, rather than from a hard drive, imagine PS loading from an audio cassette tape - a whole truck load of them. You wouldn't need an animated GIF, you'd just need a GIF.
- Micah Wittman
Go get a cup of coffee while it's loading. Fly to Columbia for a cup.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Adobe Reader also does that. One of the reasons why I use Foxit Reader for PDF's.
- Vishy
Vishy: Try Adobe Reader 9. They fixed that issue, it doesn't load all its crap on launch any more. Now it loads it on demand instead. Adobe Reader 8 did the slow load you're talking about.
- Otto
I think.. and i'm not sure here.. but I don't think it's supposed to be loading still after 3 days. Should I Force Quit? :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
from IM
What I don't understand is why no one is talking about StumbleUpon. Nowhere do they tell their users that they are slipping in ads, but one out five pages smell an awful lot like payola. No where on the page does it say that company X is sponsoring that hit, they just try and pretend like it social content that's been recommended by people with similar interests. This seems a lot more deceptive to me than most conflicts of interest
- Davis Freeberg
Cool. Would be awesome if we could dynamically add them to a post based on tags :)
- Roberto Bonini
BTW - The best ones are behind the link. :)
- Louis Gray
I've gotten a free book before but I want to level up to "some sweet gadgets"!
- Rochelle
Awesome. But where is "writer is friends on FriendFeed"?
- DeWitt Clinton
DeWitt, I assume we could have made 20 of these. But Jeannine is too good to be free! She got Mad Scrilla for this work. :) I would have added advisory roles and social networking buds, real life buds, friends of a friend, blah blah blah.
- Louis Gray
Davis - there's an icon for sponsored links on the FF and IE toolbars that looks like a dollar sign (at least the last time I used it). Disclosure: I worked on the IE toolbar and put that feature in (to reach feature parity with the Firefox toolbar).
- Matt Mastracci
Louis, these are fabulous. Although, Full Disclosure: The FTC has no jurisdiction where I live :)
- Micah Wittman
"You don’t have to fly to Hawaii to hear the sweet sounds of the ukulele. With the Make Your Own Ukulele Kit ($40) you can be strumming the four strings in just a few hours. You’ll need some common supplies like sand paper and glue, but all parts of the instrument are included. Once it’s assembled you can stain it or paint it however you want for a completely personalized look you can’t buy in any store."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
DJF, because punk irony meant seeking out things that were ridiculed and putting them in people's faces. Once that was done, people rediscovered that ukes are easy to learn to play, very portable, can be cheap (although not as cheap as they used to be), etc.
- Spidra Webster
I play ukulele too. Not as well as Josh, but well enough to impress the chicks. And by chicks, I mean small baby chickens.. And good luck keeping this in tune...
- Morgan Haley
Izzy lives! I made my own dulcimer about 30 years ago, and learned to play it pretty well. Alas, it's now in the possession of my erstwhile spouse (who doesn't play it at all, btw.) Here's a link to Izzy's best: http://1800sunstar.com/ztracks...
- Mark Jepsen
all ukes are not created equal and i've never met one that had rock solid tuning. i blame the neck and the string material.
- Joe Silence is not dead
"Why limit your mini-terrarium output to plain old jars? You can reuse a burned out light bulb to create a smaller, desk-friendly nature space."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
x_x. (but wait: i have an easy bake oven too ... that i got at 28.)
- tiffany
I think my current Easy Bake Oven was either for Mother's Day or Valentine's Day. I know I got it in '07. I have all *kinds* of stuff to bake. *happy dance*
- Admiral Anika
what's a turkey take in an easy bake? like 6 days?
- Morgan Haley
So... Looks like we're going to start P90 on Sunday. I'm way intimidated. But got to do something about my health/weight/figure. Tad is gung-ho... hopefully his enthusiasm will motivate me to get out of bed at 5:30am every day to do this.
Good luck. It definitely looks challenging
- Rodfather
We're doing P90, not P90X so hopefully we can deal.. yeah, it's gonna be tough, but if we do it we'll be a lot better off (I keep telling myself this... I HATE pushups and crunches with a passion so it's going to be very hard to keep motivated for those).
- Lindsay
you gotta tape your sessions or it didn't happen :)
- imabonehead
Somethings always bugged me about McRib... They're boneless, right? Isn't boneless ribs sort of any oxymoron?
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't question the genetically engineered workarounds McDonalds performs to bring us food. Next you're gonna tell me that McNuggets don't come from chickens.
- Mark Krynsky
Well they could call it McPork or something. Is it actually rib meat? That seems like a *lot* of work for somebody to de-bone ribs. Maybe that's why they have it for a few years, don't have it for a few, have it again. Maybe it takes a few years to de-bone all the ribs for another batch. And if you're going to name it for the part of the animal where it comes from, they should have the McBeak, McTail, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Frankly, it should have been called McMagic, because that's what it is. Something greater than the sum of it's parts.
- Adrian
Sadly I've always wanted one... but never actually gone and gotten one.
- Shawn Whitmire
Jeff, that pic of the McRib washed off to expose its pallid fakeness?? 'Nuff said.
- Kamilah Gill
Thanks Jeff but even knowing the truth behind the McRib does nothing to deter me from still wanting it.
- Mark Krynsky
You mean to tell me a magician doesn't really have a rabbit in his hat? Pfft... Seriously people, how easy is it to get on a high horse about McDonalds food. Come on... we're having fun here.
- Adrian
Who's getting on a high horse? We're merely presenting the facts. No opinion has been stated one way or the other (at least right here by me).
- Kamilah Gill
Kamilah, look at photo #2? What do you see? Pure joy! Do you think that lovely man wants to hear facts at that very moment? When you're at a bar downing a shot of tequila and cheering for your favorite football team do you want to hear about what it's doing to your liver? Nope! Anyway, some of us are pretty sensitive about our irrational affection for the McRib... and high horse was probably too strong a term... grumblegrumble...apologies...end rant.
- Adrian
Right, Adrian... we're having fun here. I think those of us who have fun deconstructing the stuff can coexist with those who enjoy eating it, no? I mean I enjoy me some Quarter Pounder now and then as much as anybody, but I don't pretend it's actually "food" per se. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It's alright, we're cool, Adrian :)
- Kamilah Gill
No worries folks...we all have vices that can be deconstructed to show their evilness...in the case of the McRib it's only around for a short time so it couldn't cause me much harm even if I wanted it to.
- Mark Krynsky
"The biggest component is the question - what is the value of Facebook? It is a very successful company and is going to get more so in the future. There is a lot of opportunity in the social and realtime. Facebook is in a unique position that will prove to be very lucrative."
- Louis Gray
Nothing wrong with pursuing the Benjamins -- that's what creative capitalism is all about. Friendfeed's founders probably couldn't have picked a better moment to sell the company for the price it did.
- Sean McBride
I still want it to stay right here .... Period.
- Charlie Anzman
Hmmmm, if we assume there is a golden handcuff situation going on, how long until Paul departs and uses the funds to build FriendFeedHD XL Ultimate Edition?
- EricaJoy
I like where you're going with this, Erica!
- Laura Norvig
So, I made this epic sandwich you're totally jealous of; fresh baguette, lettuce, tomato, onion, "cheddar", avocado, chicken...Only problem is that as big a mouth as I have, I can not eat this thing. I'm *gnawing* it.
you lost me at "onion" ... otherwise sounds fabulous
- Bren, Not Grinchy
Bren! That shocks me you don't like onion.
- Admiral Anika
I love cooking with onion, but I don't much care to eat it raw (or cooked, for that matter... I really just like the flavor it imparts in cooking)
- Bren, Not Grinchy
drop the tomato and add some ranch dressing!
- Justin Korn
Bren, that's like me with mushrooms. I'll cook with them, but prefer not to have to eat them. Justin, I skipped on the ranch this time around. Something about this chicken and ranch that just isn't pleasant together.
- Admiral Anika
Ah, okay, Adam...I thought it was about 9:30. I just saw it's almost 11:15. Time for bed!
- Admiral Anika
Her: What is this long crazy word? Me: Typewriter? Her: What the heck is a 'typewriter'? Me: It's what we typed with before computers. Both kids: *BEFORE* computers? OMG.
They're still laughing thinking that I lived before home computers. I realize it's because they're used to 50 and 60s movies with room size computers.
- Admiral Anika
And pre-cellphone? Telephones used to be connected with wires and if you were out you had to use a payphone!
- Nick B.
Oh man, when I explained payphones to them a couple of years ago, they oldest acted like I was making stuff up.
- Admiral Anika
I had to explain what a rotary phone was yesterday to mine after we saw one in a movie. The look on their faces was priceless.
- Sels
My optician showed me the eye test for young children.One picture was of a black rotary phone. Every kid identifies it as a T shirt.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
A friend in Texas took her kid to the optician and their eye chart for kids were corporate logos. She was pissed and walked out to find another doctor.
- Admiral Anika
Corporate logos seems particularly bad from the perspective of being able to test the ability to see. They are, by design, very distinctive and recognizable, even if blurry.
- Andy Bakun
Good point. I hadn't thought of that.
- Admiral Anika
Me and my friend were playing the old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles arcade game on his XBox 360, his son came in and commented "the graphics are so bad that doesn't even look like a video game." ...I suggested we wash his mouth out with soap.
- Joe Pierce
A few weeks ago, I put in some classic Atari disc in the PS2. My daughter said, "No wonder you and daddy wear glasses. These games make my head hurt!"
- Admiral Anika
This is why I've always maintained when I have kids they get the video game progression I had. Start with Atari and Coleco-vision games, move on to some old school computer games (Oregon Trail and Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego-like) then NES, then SNES/Genesis, then Playstation etc.... ....It may be for the best that I don't have kids, I've put too much thought in here.
- Joe Pierce
OMG Eric, when I told her we used to play Combat for hours, she looked at me like I lost my mind. The boy declared it "boring". And they went to play with lint to prove their point.
- Admiral Anika
I think I'd better start ours on Yars' Revenge right away. He's been playing Little Big Planet for a while- don't want him to get spolied! :)
- Matt Mastracci
My kids are weird with what versions they like to play/watch. They prefer the older versions of Sonic or Pac-Man, but the newer versions of Super Mario.
- Admiral Anika
haha..............they wouldn't know a phone with a cord
- VAL D. Zone
Have you ever tried to explain the rotary phone to them?
- Joe Pierce
...then we stood up and walked to the TV and turned a dial to change channels but it dodn't matter there were only 3 CBS, ABC, NBC but Bonanza was in COLOR... yes I am old thanx for asking
- WarLord
I don't have to. They've seen rotary phones in the wild. We almost bought one at the beginning of the year, but figured it wasn't safe. They've seen phones with cords...we do have a fax machine.
- Admiral Anika
The other day someone asked me if we still had a TELEX machine at work.
- Nick B.
And all this is pretty funny considering my daughter thinks we need to go back to using quills to write. She already told me that for her birthday, she wants a quill and ink set.
- Admiral Anika
When I was young I wanted to write with a quill, until I tried writing with one. Not so easy.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Same here. I think she'll outgrow it. I hope she will, at least.
- Admiral Anika
Maybe she does think I'm *that* old. We're watching Storyteller. I said, "I used to watch this as a kid." And she asked, "In black and white?"
- Admiral Anika
I usually tell my niece and nephews: "Before Youtube..." lol. It helps contextualize.
- anna sauce
You walked to the TV to turn the dial? The dial had fallen off our TV and we had a pair of vice grips on the stub where the knob used to be in order to change channels.
- Andy Bakun
You know, when I read this earlier, I immediately though of the scene in Ferris Bueler's Day Off where the principle is on the phone with Cameron claiming to be Ferris's girlfriend's father but thinks it's Ferris, and Ferris calls on another line and they show the blinking "on-hold" light dramatically. There's a lot of passing the receiver around and avoiding getting twisted up in cords. Then, later in the day, this movie was on.
- Andy Bakun
I shant comment on another RS post...I loves my FF peeps...We rock
- Bill Heslin
MVB: seems that everyone here wants this, so this is what I'm going to post. I don't want to rain on anyone's parade.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I have no problem with you not liking FriendFeed as a service or not getting anything out of it anymore. You had valid points about forums. What bothered me was the language and the tone of your initial post and screenshot that singled out and attacked the people of FriendFeed. You don't have to like the service or find it interesting but there are more respectful ways to communicate that...ways that don't personally offend the rest of the users and cause them to get defensive and angry.
- joey
joey: you're right. I was wrong. But I'm not getting fed here anymore and I didn't communicate that well.
- Robert Scoble
Sorry Robert, ever read the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" ? Check it out.
- ...
I guess it's like falling in love with a four-star Thai restaurant that slowly switches to some other kind of food.
- Robert Scoble
Mehmet: I've read it many times. So you're right. Fine. FriendFeed is awesome. Now what?
- Robert Scoble
The worst part is that my "best of day" is dominated by people posting all the different reasons your post was wrong.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: we're even thanks to that man-boob liking photo.
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, what kind of tech stuff are you looking for?
- Bruce Lewis
Josh: nah, yesterday's posts were bait. This is just me saying hi.
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: I've already found it, you don't need to find it for me.
- Robert Scoble
I still like you, Robert. We've had good conversations. Just... Perhaps you could have handled it a little differently, is all. Best of luck in whatever is next and I'll see you around the net.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from iPod
Bill: you are welcome to block me. Then you'll be alone without me.
- Robert Scoble
I was just answering Josh. I'm not baiting anybody myself.
- Bruce Lewis
The food's the same here, you just made a serious mistake by stiffing the wait staff. Face it Robert, you're a fast food kind of guy.
- jcunwired
jcunwired: I enjoy fast food as much as anyone but I do try to temper it with veggies.
- Robert Scoble
Not that there's anything wrong with that. If you need tech "news" you don't want to hang out on a site that's exactly the same kind of awesome it was two months ago.
- Bruce Lewis
Oh good lord, a blanket apology/explanation is plenty sufficient. He doesn't need to come to each of our houses and prostrate himself before us and beg our humblest forgiveness. We need to learn more from that Baboon that Benson played in the Lion King.
- Matthew DeVries
Bruce: I'm not going to fall for your bait. FriendFeed is awesome!
- Robert Scoble
Why is Scoble trying to kill Friendfeed?
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: why would I try to kill something so awesome?
- Robert Scoble
My "more wrong" blog post was (in tone) bait. My comments here are real.
- Bruce Lewis
I swear Robert you like to toy with people because they are so predictable : )
- Owen Greaves
Because he has the delusion that he can.
- jcunwired
Is this what it is going to come to? People ripping each other apart until there is no one left alive when the lights are turned off?
- Mathew™ one of a kind
jcunwired: I couldn't "make" FriendFeed despite pissing off thousands of people over on Twitter by constantly talking it up. I guess everyone forgets that. Same over on my blog. And I've shown FF to thousands of people during speaking engagements. But, no, all that work didn't help make FriendFeed hyper popular so, no, I don't live under any delusion that I can, then, get anyone to leave. FriendFeed is awesome and nothing I say can change that.
- Robert Scoble
At the Boston FriendFeed meetup I was the only one who found Robert Scoble through FriendFeed. Everybody else found FriendFeed through Robert Scoble.
- Bruce Lewis
I found you through FriendFeed and I'm grateful for that!
- Robert Scoble
you could say that that it's a sad sack of going nowhere, now that the team was acquired and told Steve Gillmor like 8 times in the last Gang that a bunch of the best features here were too much for the 300 million nuffnuffs that use Facebook.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
if you wanted to say something about FF not being awesome, that is.
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall: oh, you were listening to the latest Gang. There was a LOT of news in that Gang and Steve and I were wondering if anyone would notice.
- Robert Scoble
it was hard to notice with the thick fog of PR bs. mostly seemed like bad news and non-news. would love to know what I missed :)
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
i don't mean to be un-understanding, FB is a huge org with hundreds of millionso f users, billions of $ at stake. i'm sure i'd speak cautiously too
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Marshall: yeah, if I were FriendFeed execs I would speak carefully as well. The transcript comes tomorrow, we'll dig through it and highlight anything really useful in the Gillmor Gang. There were a few things that clarified where they are going a bit.
- Robert Scoble
Transcript? FriendFeed execs? Did an interview happen with Bret, Jim, Paul, Sanjeev?
- Bruce Lewis
AJ: I don't have to do those tricks anymore. Look at all the comments!
- Robert Scoble
Never satisfied. Tell me how much you love FF every waking hour.
- Jason Hill
And, anyway, I understand everyone here knows at least 60 reasons why FriendFeed is awesome, no need to iterate through that list again.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: I miss it though! You're welcome any time. In other news, the world of the Internet is a fascinating place. I wouldn't be anywhere else.
- AJ Kohn
Always here. Like every time I long-on. Robert is infinitely connected. Is it happiness? ... a disease? ... or both?? :)
- Charlie Anzman
So confused... but don't care anymore. Can't we just go back to how it was before? Everyone posts/likes/doesn't do whatever they want.
- Jan Ole Peek
Louis, Robert probably already has a real picture like that somewhere.
- Jesse Stay
Josh, I want the transcript to your video
- Jesse Stay
I enjoy friendfeed sooo much!! I hope it doesn't go anywhere but gets optimized! Great site to make great connections and meet a bunch of awesome people!
- John Tastad
Did you do the dance? Maybe they're waiting for you to do the dance.
- Sarah G.
There are other parties going on. It's official: I'm SICK of Thriller.
- Admiral Anika
OMG. The song was just started AGAIN! And yes, I think part of the reason it's annoying me, is the almost Pavlovian response I have to do the dance.
- Admiral Anika
There is a lot of history to this picture. It was taken in Mike Arrington's back yard at the last Techcrunch party to be held in his house. This was a launch party too for our book Naked Conversations. It sounded like a good idea at the time. JD Lasica shot the photo and my wife and dad were within a few feet.
- Robert Scoble
This pic totally reminds me of when SF incumbent mayoral candidate Frank Jordan posed in the shower with two morning shock jocks. Ran on the front page of all the papers. Jordan lost, btw.
- Sue Radd
Sue: I guess I never will run for mayor then! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice...just the picture to see before I walked the dog and made my coffee. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
The most damning thing is that no one from the FriendFeed team or Facebook has joined the community here that is talking about it to tell us what's happening in the future. That, more than anything I've written or said communicates the future of FriendFeed.
I keep hoping someone will tell me I'm wrong and will post a slide deck about the future of FriendFeed. But the lack of information is confirming what I'm hearing from my sources.
- Robert Scoble
Anika: geeks in both companies are online and working on a Sunday and last night is NOT the first time I've been talking about the lack of direction here. Also, over the last week lots of blogs have been posting about the traffic hit that FriendFeed has already seen.
- Robert Scoble
If there really was a team working on FriendFeed you BET they would contact us on a Sunday. They used to in this old days.
- Robert Scoble
Remember, Facebook has a PR team of more than 10 people. You think they aren't watching what people are saying about Facebook nearly 24/7? Not in my experience. They are the most engaged PR team in a new company I know of.
- Robert Scoble
The reality is that this is still a very useful service, and people stay because of the functionality and the community. There is no other service out there that accomplishes what this one does. There is still nowhere else to go.
- LogEx
LogEx: that's true, but it's also true that most people will go places where there's a clear future. Unless it's just to post non-consequential things. Me? This is both my fun time (which is why I'm still here) as well as my business (I won't be betting any of my business decisions on doing stuff here because of this lack of direction which tells me that no one is really working on FriendFeed actively anymore).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I understand the perhaps reasonable conclusions you're reaching, but breaking the silence could send too much signal to FB's competition when they'd rather send more silence which ends up, really, being noise.
- Micah Wittman
FriendFeed is like an old dying dog left out in the pasture alone; abandoned by its Master to die in the silence.
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Most social network content is ephemeral. If people really want their stuff to have a clear future, they should own and host it on their own domains.
- LogEx
Robert, so maybe you're not giving their PR _enough_ credit. It's speculation on my part, granted.
- Micah Wittman
Micah: sorry, that dog don't run. Healthy companies signal future directions, even under NDA. It would be pretty easy to meet with a few members of the community, NDA them, and tell them what's going on. If Louis Gray came on here and told me he's under NDA and that I'm wrong then I'd feel much better. The truth is I've talked with people inside Facebook and I know what the former FriendFeed team is working on. Hint: it isn't FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I still wish they'd make it open source or something so that people could continue to develop on it. :S
- Lindsay
Susan, I don't think "human master - canine pooch" analogy really applies to Friendfeed team - community that's formed.
- Micah Wittman
By the way, Facebook meets with bloggers/journalists all the time to give us secret hints at what's coming. I've been to Facebook several times this year for just that. Facebook has no serious competition, by the way, so they don't make PR decisions based on what Twitter is doing.
- Robert Scoble
I guess I'm not most people then. If I find something that works, I prefer to stay put as long as it meets my needs. New things are nice, but I don't have time to constantly try out new services to see if they are better that what I am presently using. (That's why I follow people like Robert ;-)) The new shiny service would have to be significantly better than what I presenlty use to make me want to switch.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Do you have any services that offer the same functionality, are widely available, and actually have a future, Robert? How about offering a solution for once instead of just bitching?
- LANjackal
Robert. Can you reveal the information you have from your sources. Discussions where one person has information they won't reveal is frankly frustrating. If you have some inside knowledge yet continue to make statements like this and FriendFeed is dead? then it really is frustrating to the community.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
If your business is posting to social media, and you think your content is "consequential" based on how long it will be around on the web ... I think you've misunderstood the current moment in social media.
- Joel Bennett
There's much less interaction than there used to be - but I still have faith in the users. This (was) is a vibrant and interesting place to be - and that's testament not only to the people that made the site, but also to the people who breathed life into it. I'll be following friendfeed still, but i'll also be following the friendfeeders i've met here. I'm not sure where the future is, but it'll be something to do with the people here. I'm sure of that.
- Iain Baker
Micah - lack of innovation and development on FF platform will cause obsolesence soon. Social web apps must innovate or die. When Facebook acquired FF, we all knew that FF would wind down due to this. Communities will migrate to current platforms that meet their needs. I am sensing a large contingent of the FF community is about to leave FF, myself included.
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Re Tina: IIRC she got laid off and is prolly busy trying to find new employment
- LANjackal
from IM
@Susan: "social web apps must innovate or die" really? tell that to Twitter, lol
- LANjackal
from IM
Robert, did Wolfram-Alpha indicate their future direction being a $50 iphone app? All I'm saying is Facebook's strategy may include support to FF that's not in a time-frame worth pushing through PR yet.
- Micah Wittman
My favorite thing about this whole "Facebook is dead, move on" campaign is that these guys are basically just trying to shoe you BACK to the service they talked most of you OFF of in the first place: Twitter. I'm still looking for their motivation.
- Joel Bennett
FB is dead? Anyone who's saying that in view of their soaring stats and the roaring success that FB Connect has been needs their head examined
- LANjackal
from IM
The way I see it, Robert, your constant bitching and declaring friendfeed dead is what is killing the community. While the software it runs on may be dead, the community is not. I have to separate it and explain it to you, because you don't seem to understand the difference and how being a vocal part of this community affects it. The more you put it down, the more people won't come here...
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- April Russo (app103)
Susan, social web apps need utility/affection by a set of users. If cutting/bleeding edge aficionados is the particular user set in question, then what you said generally holds true. But it's not the general case unless a true replacement (in this case for FF) is available.
- Micah Wittman
I don't think he's killing the community, he's just killing the community's participation with him.
- Alex Scoble
Robert. Can you advise the information you have from your sources?
- Johnny Worthington
I am stuck in the middle on this one...
- Allen Stern
Fair point, Alex. I think this issue needs the two Scobles to put their heads together and clear the air.
- Micah Wittman
Is Friendfeed dying ( if it is) because of it being purchase by Facebook, or by members reaction to that purchase? Did people forecast the death of Friendfeed and then leave, therefore creating the exact scenario they predicted.
- Kim Landwehr
Robert, doesn't this put the denouement on the donkey for all those who thought it too sharp a call to say what was going on in that sale and before it? It seemed fairly clear to me what had been going on mainly from seeing the actions at the time of the sale and "doing the math". As Aristotle said: "Plot is character"
- Melanie Reed
Some times the lab rats do understand and stop sniffing for the cheese, looking up at the lab coats above them with a knowing twitch of the whisker.
- Melanie Reed
Can FriendFeed be another StumbleUpon two years later? http://stumbleupon.com/sublog... EDIT: "I don't want it happen though. I hope FFers let me entertain us again on FB" (excerpted from http://ff.im/6pO0a in Japanese)
- NaHi
from f2p
I'm more of a social media *consumer* than I am a participant. From a consumer's point of view, FF is more interesting than its competitors. A nice place to hang out, enjoy, learn, and sometimes discuss. Less guesswork is involved in deciding whether to click through to sources. From a consumer's perspective, as long as it remains interesting there won't be a reason to move on.
- howard shippin
from BuddyFeed
Johnny: yes, my sources inside Facebook tell me that the FriendFeed team has been split apart and is working on Facebook items only. So far no one has refuted that.
- Robert Scoble
April: you can believe that I'm personally killing the community but that really is giving me far more power than I actually have. The community has dramatically changed in the last two months. The alpha geeks I follow and that I build my business around have largely left. Everytime I meet geeks at conferences they tell me they are not spending as much time on FriendFeed as they did before the sale to Facebook and that the lack of direction from the team is largely responsible for that.
- Robert Scoble
And, April, if you read my blog post you'll see that I believe a new community is already moving in here -- one that doesn't care if the technology will see new features.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not on FB that much, but do people from their team actually get involved on the site? Is that even possible, with the privacy controls? I said it on another thread: you can't serve two masters. If FB is paying the bills now, that's probably where erstwhile FF staff must spend their time.
- .LAG liked that
.LAG: yes. I have dozens of Facebook employees as friends over on Facebook and they do engage all over the place.
- Robert Scoble
.LAG: the head of PR at Facebook, Brandee Barker, even has a Twitter account: http://twitter.com/faceboo... and there are TONS of employees who hang out on both Twitter and Facebook like Dave Morin, head of Facebook's platform team.
- Robert Scoble
Kim: I did one of the first interviews with the FriendFeed and Facebook teams after the sale was announced (within the first hour) and even then you could tell that Facebook had no plans for FriendFeed's technology and mostly wanted the team. The fact that Gary Burd (who ran the Google Talk team and is VERY influential in Seattle technology) has already left speaks VOLUMES to what is going on behind the scenes. Guys like Gary don't leave if they are having fun and making a huge impact.
- Robert Scoble
April - Robert actions and Roberts threads have nothing to do with the death of Friendfeed. Robert's threads still have traffic and activity. The place where I see, where Robert would probably not ever be able to appreciate is the fact that there was once a time when a postless thread was impossible. Every single one of my threads had traffic. Even if it was one or 2 silly posts of...
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- Matthew DeVries
http://friendfeed.com/bwana that right there.....that is the saddest thing. That was once what I considered to be the most important account on Friendfeed.
- Matthew DeVries
That's a stupid call he made for himself
- LANjackal
from IM
I'm a new user. i quite enjoy what's here, at the moment. I can't say that I'm a sophisticated social networker, but I have already grown to trust many of the folk i've met here. Like someone earlier in the thread said, if enough of my friends on friendfeed decide to move on, i'll likely follow. i don't suspect that that kind of 'distant early warning' would arrive via Facebook.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
My experience on FF does not hinge on Robert. The community of thinkers and feelers will find a way to interact, here or somewhere else. By the way, some of us are left out of the loop 99% of the time when it comes to knowing what's next. Welcome to the club.
- Aron Michalski
from BuddyFeed
Matthew: you aren't the only one to notice this or tell me the same thing. Many won't point it out in public, either, because they just don't want to piss off those who are still here. Me? Being public with what I'm hearing, experiencing, deciding, etc is the way I deal with life and the conversations with others tend to either confirm the direction I'm aiming in, or they pull me back from the brink. So far not much has changed my opinion, and, in fact, has augmented it.
- Robert Scoble
Aron: Twitter is about to turn on lists. That's one feature FriendFeed had over it. Within six weeks they will turn on a new retweet feature that looks more like FriendFeed's "likes" than it looks like RTs, so that's another feature. Twitter is working on real time search and I'd expect them to turn on a much better search within six months. So, what's left? Comments. Those are added on...
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- Robert Scoble
I still get a lot of activity on my posts but it's not what it used to be. The big thing I've noticed is a rarely get new subscriptions yet I'm still quite active here. Going from getting several or more a day to one or so a week is a big indicator to me of FriendFeed's decline.
- Akiva Moskovitz
It's time to open source FF. Start the chant.
- Todd Hoff
is it possible that things are levelling off, naturally? can growth, here or elsewhere, expect to be exponential forever and ever?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Brent, you bring up a salient point. For some, the constant movement is what they are really excited about more than the community. This is not to say that these ones don't enjoy the community, they obviously do. But they enjoy the "building" up of it. It's like getting trapped in the "I always want to be falling in love" feeling and never, as you bring out, get to and enjoy the natural leveling off. Some do enjoy that part. And there may be enough of them to keep this version of FF going.
- Melanie Reed
There's a problem with stasis, though. For one, it almost always leads to entropy and, for two, it means that there isn't an influx of new blood. It's the same people doing the same things having the same conversations. It decreases how dynamic the experience is. It becomes stale.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'm not saying that FriendFeed's hit that stage yet but it most likely will. I'm still having a great time here but it's not nearly as exciting as it used to be and, no, that's just because the honeymoon period's worn off.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I respectfully disagree. It's like exploring a new path in an old garden. This is the place most people are either afraid to traverse or have not developed the discipline to want to go there. There are always new things yet to be discovered in the same relationship. We just get "ants in our pants" not wanting to sit still long enough to discover it. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, oh yeah? Well, you're WRONG! In all seriousness, I think it's two sides of the same coin. And I want both. It's why I hang out both on Twitter and FriendFeed. I get different (but good!) experiences out of both.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Matt - Yup, I've experienced the same thing as I have over 2,500 FF followers and now see a very low user engagement; whereas, in the past, I could get a ton of likes / comments on any topic. Now I see only crickets!! FF is dying.
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Akiva, Its more about learning to "exult in monotony". ;)
- Melanie Reed
Hah. Sorry, Melanie, but when it comes to social networking, I'm definitely polyamorous.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I've just come to appreciate the wisdom of Solomon: that there is "nothing new under the sun". lol Or as Shania Twain would say: "That don't impress me much."
- Melanie Reed
With Friend Feed I can go to the site, and watch in realtime all the action going on with those I follow. I see Likes, Comments, Pictures, Nicely grouped and can type more than 140 characters if I want to. With Twitter, it's all a kludge to add on this and that and this client or that client and I just don't see how Twitter compares technically to FriendFeed at this time. Twitter was...
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- Keith Rowland
Yeah, the 140 character cap is the most baffleing thing that makes me wish FF wouldn't die and Twitter become king. I want more than 140 characters, I want it in real time, I want it in conversation, and I want it 100% free of super poke and my highschool neighbor's grand mother following me.
- Matthew DeVries
The truth is we know nothing more than a few weeks after the sale when the team commented that they will keep it going as long as they could. We all knew development would stop. We all knew it would run on auto-pilot. No one here seriously expects FriendFeed to continue forever but a lot of us aren't pulling the plug and walking out the door. Interaction is down, to be expected, and I'm...
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- Johnny Worthington
OH MY DEAR LORD! THE FRIENDFEED TEAM ISN'T INSTANTLY AVAILABLE ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON TO TALK ABOUT THEIR STRATEGIC PLANS! ALERT THE MEDIA!
- Glen Mistletoe
Glen, the last 13 words took your statement from accurate to inaccurate
- Matthew DeVries
What Twitter client are you using these hours anyway Robert? Have you checked out CoTweet?
- Matthew DeVries
Regardless of the Friendfeed team's lack of comments, the volume on some threads like this does prove to me that life still exists on FF. I will agree that the volume is lighter but nothing has officially shown me that Friendfeed is dead, only bogus news articles trying to create news...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Look at FriendFeed. Look at Facebook. Which one needs improvement? Of course the team isn't working on FriendFeed now. But they're still using it, and would be upset if Facebook killed it. Facebook values them. They won't kill FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Mathew: I use Tweetie on iPhone for almost all Twitter tasks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You also started it at 3am in the morning on Sunday - kind of a bad time to get their attention, don't you think?
- Jesse Stay
Social Media Epertistes are vampires, they'd shrivel up and die otherwise after a night full of exsanguination orrrrrrrrr we could just fwd. this to the Feedback Room [done]
- sofarsoShawn
Great, so its over? I wonder how many times the community is going to be willing to put themselves into something like this before we realise that all this stuff needs to move over to an open platform. I have a few great great communities die because of financially/politically motivated owners. shitty.
- Jason Strachan
Which reminds me: Anybody know how the OpenFF project's going?
- Dennis Jernberg
We had this discussion about the future of Friendfeed back when the buyout was first confirmed. We assume it's treading water, and maybe some day we'll be surprised by an update.
- Vezquex: God of FF
Vezquex, yeah - how many more times do you predict this will come up again? FriendFeed just gave an excuse for people to say something's dead. I predict this will happen many more times until it is actually dead or they start really vamping it up again. No one in this thread has the authority to know that.
- Jesse Stay
Maybe we will just roll our own waves.
- Sean Oliver
Let's stop comparing elephants to fleas. Even if having 10 PR people allowed Facebook to be the "most engaged" new company, adjusted against the number of inquiries originating from members, 10 people cannot support that volume. With 250 million (or how ever many more) members, the right level of PR staffing would have to be closer to 250 (one PR person per 1 million members) to get...
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- Rich Reader
Wow, I hadn't realized Bwana had completely left. Did he blog about it?
- Laura Norvig
I'm not sure if he blogged about it, Laura, but he certainly did talk about it...I'm surprised that he made his feed go dark as abruptly as he did.
- Alex Scoble
Laura, Alex, yeah that abruptness took me by surprise too. My iphone shed a pixelated tear.
- Micah Wittman
screw this thread.... Robert Scoble crushed my friendfeed fantasy... and you people are still talking about friendfeed being dead, Now let the damn thing die quietly thank you......
- Cjay
All Hail FriendFeed. FriendFeed is dead. Long Live FriendFeed. I like it better than wave, twitter, fb. If anything the signal to noise ratio has improved.
- Robert Higgins
Roberto (and the walrus): oh, really? Did you READ what Paul wrote? How does that differ from anything I've said?
- Robert Scoble
Robert, you said FriendFeed is dead and Paul said it isn't. Keep in mind you're using said "dead" site to respond.
- Allred
Twitter is undernourished FF is chronically ill. FB is fat with clogged arteries and 10% of its users have disabled accounts including me.
- Darrell Hudson
OMG that is too funny - the static buildup must be amazing LOL
- Susan Beebe
Human-powered kittymobile! (Like a snowmobile, only a cat. And--oh, never mind...)
- Dennis Jernberg
It's the last floor cleaner your'll never need! Picks up dust, dirt, pet dander! Easy grip handle keeps you from losing control during the dirtiest cleanups. Includes patent pending see-in-the-dark headlights so you can clean up at night. Works on both wall-to-wall carpet and rugs! We're going to make America clean again, one Vacuum Cat at a time.
- Andy Bakun
I almost want to do this to my cat. However, I do value my skin. :P
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Susan, indeed, that's what I was thinking! ZAP!
- Rick Cogley
Zamanında arkadaşın kedisiyle yere dökülen ne var ne yoksa süpürürdük, hiç de sesini çıkarmazdı, o geldi aklıma. Şimdi eşimle bir kedi besliyoruz bırak yerleri süpürmeyi sevmek için bile yaklaşamıyorsun hayvana, etme bulma dünyası tabi :-)
- Suat Gençer
One of these days I'm going to have to learn Turkish
- Mo Kargas
My Fail Whale cubicle mural. I took this a long time ago to post and forgot I did... I'll be moving cubicles soon and I will probably transfer it. It has either gotten giggles or complete lack of understanding by people who visit my cube.
It was my first "rasterbation". Turned out pretty good... I'll know how to do it better next time.
- Lindsay
Love that! My coworkers would be so amused if I put that up in my cube. Maybe I should dress my cube up as Twitter for Halloween
- Tamara
Oooh isnt that exciting? Wouldnt it be a symbolism for 'fail' then if you hung such a mural in your cubicle? Wouldnt you rather want something positive?
- TrafficBug
@TrafficBug - the irony makes it funny... considering I write web software that is supposed to support lots of people. :) But really, I just like the whale and birdies.
- Lindsay
It looks like a giant unfolded Twitter fail whale picnic napkin.
- Pete Delucchi
Now I really want a Fail Whale beach towel.
- s t e v e
from iPod
I'm beginning to think there's something wrong here.
- s t e v e
been watching for almost 9 hours and it still hasnt loaded make it stop somethings broken ctrl-alt-delete cmd-shift-w ctrl-y crtl-z
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
this is starting to really piss me off, wtf like how fuck'n big is this son of a bitch file? Fuck this ctrl+alt+del adios MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
HEEHEEHEE!!!! I got my partner with it!! HEEHEEHEEEEE!!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
When my mom was really really mad she'd mutter under her breath " Dirty Name." It was her strongest curse.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Had a college roommate from Texas who always used "Dadgummit"
- Steve
Sweet Peter on a Popsicle Stick. (Which, the more I think about it, seems like a rather vulgar phrase.)
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
m9m - Are you one of the characters on Hannah Montana? They always say "sweet niblets." (I'm subjected to that show on a regular basis, thanks to having two daughters).
- Curtiss Grymala
Jackalope. When I'm driving with the kids I call people jackalope.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
god bless it! and fudge! ... I worked with kids for a long time and sometimes fudge got me into trouble cuz they thought I meant I had some to share. "But, Trisha, we want fudge." sigh.
- pea
fudge monkey is a good one. The vice principal at my middle school used to say things like "God bless America" and my mom used to say "sugar jets" a lot when I was younger.
- Curtiss Grymala
One friend used to exclaim, "Holy Hannah!"
- Louis Gray
I'm a vulgar man. Can't help it. You ask me what are some of my cuss-oriented curse phrases and I can give you a stack. Non-cuss curse phrases? Not a one. Thanks, Grandma!
- Akiva Moskovitz
@pea re: "GOD BLESS IT", I used to work at a Catholic elementary school where the staff (including some of the nuns... actually, most of the nuns!) would frequently say "BLESS YOU" in lieu of "F-YOU".
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
As the parent of a 12 yr old I have trained myself to say "FUDGE" in lieu of the alternative... But the older he gets the more I end up letting other things slip. I figure he's old enough now to figure out when it's ok to use stuff like that and when it isn't. Don't want him to be afraid of words, but realize that they are powerful to other people so he needs to only use them when there won't be negative consequences.
- Lindsay
Proof: I used to hold Audrey up in front of me and say, 'You're a fuckin' baby! Look at you!'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Son of a mother and shut the front door.
- EricaJoy
Some of these have amused me greatly. I usually just cuss too but sometimes I don't want to hurt Shelby's delicate ears.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I've been finding myself saying, "Mother of God," quite a bit lately. I have no idea where that came from. It seems horribly blasphemous somehow. I've been very good at self-censoring since the kid was born - I have to pretty angry to let loose. Last month he did very casually say, "what the fucking heck?" so I guess I was slipping for awhile, but he only said it once and that was that.
- Laura Norvig
Oh yeah, and I say "frak" and all it's variations all. the. time.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, that totally reminds me (for some reason) that I was saying 'good gravy' for awhile there but I absolutely hated it. I have no idea where it came from but I worked hard to make it go away.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Monkey out of nowhere!! (yelled in surprise (and alarm))
- Jennifer Dittrich
Actually, I say "OMG" and "What the Eff" quite frequently. My 2yr old has become fond of "What the hell," which is definitely not my fault. LOL.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
"Sweet Peter at the Pearly Gates" and "For the love of all that is holy and just!" come most readily to mind. Mostly I just curse though. @Akiva, my father loved "fargin icehole." :D
- Ayşe E.
Another friend contributes: "Cluck a Duck"... and in lieu of a**hole, "Adam Henry!"
- Louis Gray
@Melly - It's funny. Since this thread, my step-daughter has been using dipstick a lot lately. Hmm. I wonder if she's on FF and I don't know about it. :)
- Curtiss Grymala
Tune in tomorrow, when I try and look even more horrific.
- Steven Perez
i should take a camera phone shot of myself just after i take off my CPAP mask in the morning. i look like a fscking corpse, and not a fresh one.
- Joe Silence is not dead
I think I just won the Embarrassing Photo Meme. Forever. :D
- Steven Perez