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Great new blog from Better Homes and Gardens Real Estate
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
off to work ...
'bout time. :)
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Tweepz.com - search twitter profiles - http://www.tweepz.com/
Search Twitter profiles
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I'm not sold on posterous yet. Is it better than tumblr? Anybody have any links or A-HAs to share?
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Kawasaki uses posterous, if that matters. The best was Siphs, but it is defunct
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
yeah, & so does rubel & i'm noticing the recent converts, that's why i'm asking around..
- Andy Kaufman
Steve Rubel likes Posterous he now uses that exclusively for his blog, etc. I like posterous too since it is dead simple and offes great ease of use - post content quickly to your posterous profile via email; mobile uploads are super fast! Check out their mult-post options, too.
- Susan Beebe
I like Posterous because it feeds through to just about everyone. What I use it for is to feed through short posts based on other people's posts to my blog - pulling out a paragraph and commenting on it. In that sense, it's very old fashioned - that's exactly how I used to blog in 2001 :)
- Ian Betteridge
thanks for the feedback, I'm going to give it some attention this week & we'll see how it goes.
- Andy Kaufman
monitter : real time, live twitter monitor | free live twitter embed widget - http://monitter.com
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Great real time search tool for twitter with proximity search feature.
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
Trulia - A search engine? - http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/Bloodho...
Trulia is not a search engine in the sense most consumers understand it. Thus, it is misleading, IMO. It merely searches its own database.
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25 Apps that Add Form and Function to Twitter - The 2.0 Life - http://www.the20life.com/2009...
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h/t @Problogger
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The Twitalyzer for Tracking Influence and Measuring Success in Twitter - http://www.twitalyzer.com/twitaly...
Barry Deutsch, Jonathan Kong, Rob Cairns and 2 other people liked this
Check the Top Signal to Noise twitterers
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ScreenToaster - Online screen recorder. Capture screencasts instantly. - http://www.screentoaster.com/
Great tool but still having problem getting screencapture when I click links to other web pages. Marco very helpful but still stuck. Anyone know a solution?
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7 Tips to Getting SEO Value Out of Your Social Media Efforts | 4realz.net - http://4realz.net/2009...
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Great SEO tips using social media
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Rehoboth Beach Real Estate News & 2009 Lewes Polar Bear Plunge - http://bwbeach.com/blog...
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I thought they only did this in Brooklyn.
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Kevin Rose: 10 Ways To Increase Your Twitter Followers - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
"Kevin Rose: 10 Ways To Increase Your Twitter Followers"
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Bookmarking service integrated with Google/Yahoo search
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A great idea for saving information looks like I need to try this one.
- Rob Cairns
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Misread, and I'm pretty sure you know how...
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hhahahahaaa.......You. You're good you. (said like De Niro in analyse this..)
- Zee.
The best room on ff. Great work Zee!
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
agree - great room; good apps are often posted
- Peter Theill
hey you guys do the work - so thank you!
- Zee.
Cheers!
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3 Simple Ways To Send Huge Files Over The Web - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
denise, Kol Tregaskes, Khader Shameer and 22 other people liked this
This is a really good article. What people do not realize is sending large files via email protocol is very slow. I personally use yousend it for sending large files around and find it very helpful.
- Rob Cairns
I also like senduit.com
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
I like firedropper and drop.io for sending large files...Although when i share files among geeks, i'd rather create a torrent and send to everyone :P
- Keshav Khera
yousendit is also good
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Cyberhomes.com Honored by PC Magazine - http://digg.com/softwar...
"Cyberhomes is very cool. Congratulations to the team."
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The Top 100 Undiscovered Web Sites - Money and Real Estate - Reviews by PC Magazine - http://www.pcmag.com/article...
Cyberhomes is the only real estate portal on the list.
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hello from stumbleupon
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SEOmoz | No Liability for Your Co-Blogger's Content: Another Successful CDA 230 Defense - http://www.seomoz.org/blog...
h/t Jay Thompson
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RE Blogger card sells for record amount - http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/real-es...
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Jay...you are the best! If someone offers me a ton of money for it I'll let you know!
- RealSeekr
Jay is always the first one in the pool.
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
Best hosting company -- please recommend.
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I'm fond of Slicehost, but you need to know Linux, Apache, etc.
- Jason Wehmhoener
MediaTemple hasn't skipped a beat for me.
- Duncan Riley
I'm a fan of Dreamhost. Their customer service is top of the line.
- Ben Parr
Dreamhost.
- Candace
Have enjoyed an excellent experience w/Adhost. Seattle based. Good live support.
- Dave Martin
You will find someone who will glow and people who will trash nearly every hosting company. I have yet to find one I am thrilled with
- Douglas E. Welch
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Can't beat Slicehost assuming you know (or want to learn) how to setup your own server. They have excellent articles to help you out to.
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MediaTemple for easy point and click hosting and Slicehost if you know what you're doing or want to learn about setting up and managing a server. I've had no problems whatsoever with either.
- Brandon Titus
I've been using Dreamhost for a few years now and have never ever had a problem.
- Chris
Been happy with Aspnix - asp and php all in one plan - agree with Douglas though, there will be both sides no matter what you choose
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I've been using Siteground and have been very pleased!
- Mary-Lynn
Used to love Dreamhost. Then I was one of 3k users that got hacked + they are immature in their customer outreach. Moved to MediaTemple - I figure if they can handle Starbucks website they can handle me.
- Andy Wibbels
Squidhost FTW! I've had some bad experiences with a couple of the ones listed above... due to various contractual reasons, I can't say which one it is.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
MT FTW
- Morgan
What about Exchange Hosting companies?
- Alex Sauceda
web24.com.au - we host with them - they are excellent.
- Jim Stewart
lol - the 1st question is: shey what do you want to host?
- mike "glemak" dunn
@mike Nothing huge -- small sites and blogs for clients
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Are you looking for shared hosting? Is if stay away from Dreamhost. PairNic is worth every penny. MediaTemple is a close second.
- Paulo Elias
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So far it seems Dreamhost and MT are popular
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I just signed up with GoDaddy hosting. Haven't used it much yet though, but looks decent and cheap.
- Justin Korn
Johncompanies has been great for me
- Jason Carreira
Shey-I've been pretty pleased with Dreamhost adfter 2 years. None perfect so just gotta try and hope for decent. I mean even Amazon went down once
- Mark Forman
Heard a lot of good things about http://asmallorange.com/
- Vincent X
shey: do you want to maintain your own environment or have the service do that for you?
- mike "glemak" dunn
I use LayerBlue, but I'm playing around with Google App Engine for a current project. 19,723,618 servers FTW!
- Hao Chen
mike: full Cpanel access is preferred
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Dreamhost. Transparent, friendly, and stable. Never had a problem, either.
- flammable
Textdrive/Joyent. However, I got in when they were cheap. Their hosting plans are pricey now.
- Morton Fox
I would have to say Surpass Hosting http://surpasshosting.com I've had a couple enterprise level dedicated servers with them as well as their shared and reseller hosting accounts. The support has always been great and they have an active community @ http://surmunity.com
- Brandon
I'd avoid dreamhost, they once took it upon themselves to robots.txt block search engine spiders on my sites because "I was using too many resources". They massively oversell shared hosting. It's ok for small sites, but anything resembling good traffic and they ride the fail whale
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Slicehost FTW.
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have you considered aws - ping this guy if you want to get an active users pov http://friendfeed.com/alexisk...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Understanding that almost ALL shared hosting has problems now and then, I can't really recommend one, but I would say to avoid some of the bigger names (GoDaddy, Dreamhost, iPower). You get what you pay for in cheap mass hosting, really.
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+Slicehost and +Amazine AWS (-)MT
- Akshay Dodeja
i am an idiot.. Pair.com not PairNic for hosting. d'oh!
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Contegix, Contegix, Contegix. Honestly, just try it. They are so amazing it's not even funny. They are a managed hosting company, so you will pay more for their services, but they literally can replace most of your IT functions in your company. It's crazy how good and responsive they are. They also do a lot of great stuff for open source (hosting opensymphony.com, openqa.org, springframework.org, various Apache projects, etc). They are good people.
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hostmysite.com
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Godaddy.com cheap. Arizona Hosting Provider!!
- Alex Sauceda
If you are looking for Windows hosting and you need a SQL Server database and are considering GoDaddy, be aware that they do not let you connect to your db with Enterprise Manager so your only choice if you ever want to make a backup or change hosts is to pay more than $100 to have the make a backup for you. Otherwise the hosting there is ok. If you need Windows hosting with good SQL Server access look at CrystalTech.com.
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www.3liant.com y'all
- Eric Berlin
1and1.com not the best, but it works great for me.
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2nd the CrystalTech vote
- adolfo foronda
Whatever you do, don't go with AITcom.net. Their service really sucks! I've had nothing but problems with their Windows server with Front Page extensions. I have had decent service with a Linux server from them though. They do have 24/7 support, but if they are having a global issue, good luck getting through to tech support.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Bluehost is fairly good shared hosting. They're cheap and beginner-oriented, but advanced users on a budget can quickly get used to the Bluehost way of life.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I've hosted several small sites on Dreamhost for five years. Really no issues, it's dirt cheap hosting. I do recommend MediaTemple and Slicehost if you want to do something a little more serious.
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Brighten Up Your Images - http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/cool-to...
some neat code
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Real Estate Blog - Real Estate Listings on other web sites. Who controls the data? - http://activerain.com/blogsvi...
The MLS will win the game of listings accuracy if they just get in the game. Inaccuracies produced on third party real estate sites will frustrate listing agents, homeowners and buyers. This is their Achilles' heel
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@1938media we do not allow personal attacks in comments on FastCompany.tv as a matter of policy and have removed several comments like that.
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Where's the comment policy about this? I can't find it.
- Matt Craven
some of the comments I saw before they got deleted were maybe harsh but they weren't personal attacks. they were about the quality of the show not about attacking you or shel. you just deleted every negative comment.
- Marcel Weiß
All comments except one sycophantic one was deleted. And that one looked like it was written by PR. I am really surprised. My suggestion would be to turn off comments. FastCompany is a censor? That's not something their PR people would like as a lead item.
- Frank Roche
To all the folks crying here -- Here is an idea. Create a better show you can. And please don't whine if your comments got deleted. Don't want to get your comments deleted - here is an idea - setup your blog, write a blog post on your blog criticizing to your hearts content. Nobody will delete that.
- Vic Podcaster
Is there any way to delete @vic's comment here? It seems overly negative and sarcastic.
- Frank Roche
This cottage industry that has formed around criticizing Robert and Shel is getting tired and worn. I think the people who are complaining are being disingenuous when they say they are just looking after SAP's money. No one seems to complain about the production quality of certain poorly lit loudmouths spewing in front of an isight. The censorship issue is clearly a red herring. I think someone is jealous of a couple of guys who actually have a sponsorship.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
The comments were attacks and were not constructive criticism.
- Robert Scoble
That's simply not true. I read the comments myself. They were hardly personal attacks.
- J T. Ramsay
Robert, please define "constructive criticism" as you see it. It makes no sense that some of those comments were deleted.
- Slobokan
@Scoble - you are normally pretty open about stuff. But your reply seems like a pretty lame cop-out.
- Tom Quinn
blackmailismylife: well, we judged them as attacks. There is, like Jay noted, a group of anonymous people who are just saying negative things about Shel in a way that's personal and attackive. I'm not going to put up with it anymore, at least on FastCompany.tv. Wanna do it somewhere else, like here, fine.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, they are baiting you.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Constructive Criticism: next time ask a question without saying "um." Attack: you're an idiot.
- Robert Scoble
Jay: that's cool. Comment policy is important. It's not that I'm getting it right. I used to be far more open to letting people post whatever they want, but I'm definitely changing my view to match what you posted.
- Robert Scoble
Cream rises ;)
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I used to run a pretty busy community driven website, and was continually surprised at the amount of time and effort people would put into fighting with each other over the most petty and seemingly innocuous things.
- Jonathan Beckett
Tony: we wrote a book together, are friends, and I like him a lot -- he's helped launch dozens of companies in Silicon Valley. Loyalty in life has served me well.
- Robert Scoble
Tony: well, there will be major changes to the show starting on Friday. I'd love to hear your feedback about how the show goes. Your feedback IS being heard.
- Robert Scoble
1938 should shut up and move on. This crap only gets press because people keep trying to create a scandal.
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The expression "jackalling" is sometimes used to describe the work done by a subordinate in order to save the time of a superior. (For example, a junior lawyer may peruse large quantities of material on behalf of a barrister.) This came from the tradition that the jackal will sometimes lead a lion to its prey. In other languages, the same word is sometimes used to describe the behavior...
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- Oldengrey (Jay)
Trying to create a scandal? Naw, I don't think so. I think people are just concerned about legitimate comments being deleted from fastcompany.tv. It reeks of censorship from within, and it does not look good from the outside.
- Slobokan
Censorship is an issue here. Deleting comments after the fact is not a good thing. If you don't have a policy then at least have comments placed in moderation first so they never appear. The fact that they were public and then removed just looks bad.
- Tom Quinn
Only one of the negative comments was preserved in Google's cache, but I for one would have left it up. Yes, it included the statement "Shel...do yourself a favor and go away," but it did include a valid comment about having the subject of the video actually appear within the first two minutes of the video.
- Ontario Emperor
@Ontario Emperor: Just Googled the comment you mentioned. Reading the whole comment I can see why it was deleted. Have I read worse comments on say Digg? Yes, but let's agree it would have been fine for the person to leave their feedback that they wanted to see the guest Tim Ferris before 2:27 minutes into the show, sign their name to it, and leave it at that.
- Loren Heiny
Someone should setup a comment mirror site or a wayback machine of sorts for blog comments.
- Eddie Codel
Sometimes bad PR may be good PR and I wanted to watch the interview myself: But I have a question Is there a low(er) bandwidth feed available, preferably without Flash?
- Arnd Gronenberg
Matt: our policy is here and covers all Mansueto Digital sites: http://www.fastcompany.com/service...
- Robert Scoble
Lots of professional media sites remove comments for a number of reasons. I'm happy to review the comments again tonight, but FastCompany’s initial review (they were deleted by a team at FC) were that they were pretty classic “troll” attacks. Sites such as NewYorkTimes.com review all comments for personal attacks before posting comments and we have adopted a considerably more open policy than this. But we'll consider all suggestions as to how we should handle our comment policy.
- Robert Scoble
Mooney: that's not constructive. How would you improve them?
- Robert Scoble
You know who you remind me of? The U.S. Government, you subdue all dissenters
- Andrew Fielding
Andrew: really? I didn't delete your comment here, so that proves you are wrong. There are plenty of ways for you to make personal attacks on the Internet. It's just that we're not going to let you do that on our properties. That's what Valleywag, your blog, or FriendFeed is for.
- Robert Scoble
Mooney: I'll personally review your comments shortly, it's also possible our spam filter is catching some of them. A couple of mine are held in moderation too.
- Robert Scoble
I don't see the big deal. People need to stop hyping this up. Companies have a responsiblity to mitigate risk. Taking down hate speech, abusive language, etc. is not a bad thing. Scoble can use FF, and/or his blog to 'keep the conversation' pure if needed. It's not like FC is the ONLY place for a discussion to occur. 1938media needs to chill.
- Ryan
@Robert - this can be an important point "but FastCompany’s initial review (they were deleted by a team at FC)" - does that mean you and Shel (and I haven't watched, so I don't know) did or did not participate or direct the deletion? Maybe there should be some way to keep the comment, since part of it could be useful, and delete the personal attacks with [PA deleted by admin]
- Sean
Don't see what a lot of people are complaining about. FastCompany has every right to remove comments from their own site. If anyone is upset by this they can post their comments elsewhere. It's not like there's nowhere else to post such comments.
- Paul Grav
I think you may have coined the word 'attackive'. Nicely done!
- Seth Eagelfeld
As far as I see it, a blog author or company has the right to remove whatever comment they want if it reflects negatively on the site or the authors. Free speech is one thing, but it's another when you have someone's name and reputation on the line. I support Robert in the decision. Don't let the trolls bait you anymore.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Thanks for posting the link - but your terms of service open to a blank page (checked on several browsers) and are on fastcompany.com rather than fastcompany.tv - there's no link at all on the fastcompany.tv site - how is someone to know what the comment policy is? Can anyone actually open the terms of service link on fastcompany.com??
- Matt Craven
There's nothing censoring you from saying what you want but, when you are on someone else's "turf" ..even if it is virtual turf..it's their rules. They aren't telling you that you can't speak at all or, you can't say something on your own space. They are just making sure their own site has the look and feel they are striving for. Otherwise, everything would turn into Digg or YouTube with comments. It's not "censoring". It's saying "Go somewhere else."
- Candace
Sean: Shel was not involved in deleting the comments. My bosses told me they were doing that and I agreed with them. So, the responsibility is mine, but there is a team watching the comments and deleting ones that aren't constructive criticism.
- Robert Scoble
Seth -- I'm wondering if there's a way to be constructively attackive or if being attackive is inherently personal and destruckive.
- Omar Gallaga
I wasn't making a personal attack, I was just saying using a politically charged analogy to say that I believe deleting anything other than spam or vulgar comments is something that shouldn't be done as it blocks the ability for other readers or viewers as it may be in your case, to see what others are thinking. I do however appreciate that you are taking a stance on this and looking in to it. I was going to say more but it seems that there is a maximum limit for comments on FF.
- Andrew Fielding
Matt: http://www.fastcompany.com/service... works here on several browsers. Part 3.2 (i) is the part you are looking for.
- Robert Scoble
BTW I just saw Sean's idea and I think that is a great idea, keep everything but the vulgar or vitriolic personal attack.
- Andrew Fielding
Friendfeed is the new Slashdot!
- paul mooney
Strange, the Service Terms won't load for me. No 404, just no content at all. I value sites that remove nonsense comments and spam, but often find the legitimately critical comments the most interesting. The grey area, of course, is tough, and will obviously piss off people one way or the other. Sometimes the "x comments below your threshold" approach is worth the complexity. Let people see the nonsense if they really want to.
- David Sky
Think you could take a hard lesson from @garyvee - Leave everything up. Taking stuff down leads to harsh discussions like this. Leaving it up rallies your supporters and in the end leaves you better off.
- Mark Drapeau
Weird, I'm getting a blank page now too. I'll get the tech guys to figure that one out. Sorry. I think a server is barfing.
- Robert Scoble
Mark: good point, but this is a business site and we're looking for a different tone to the comment area than, say, you'll see on Gary Vaynerchuk's site, or here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
I guess I don't really understand why you folks think that you have some sort of "right" to have your comments--legitimate or otherwise--displayed on FastCompany's site. I'm not a big fan of the material, but I sure don't have any expectation that FC will "publish" my feedback, even if it is constructive. If you want free/open conversation, you have blogs, FF, twitter... lots of venues. Nobody's "rights" are being violated.
- Ken Sheppardson
@Scoble...if this was still your personal site with no affiliation with FastCompany, SAP or any other, would you have handled this the same way?
- ryangraves
At the end of the day, it’s the right of the owner of the blog to have whatever TOS they want. People have to expect that a more mainstream pub will have stricter policies than a personal blog five people read anyway, no? Still, that’s no guarantee because everyone runs things differently. (Just scan the crap on Huffington Post, YouTube or Breitbart and see that TOS mean jack there.) I’ve also seen personal blogs ban people for things like opposing viewpoints. Bottom line: It’s FC’s blog—it’s their rules.
- mtlb
I have to agree with Mark Drapeau. No matter what, it is just better to leave stuff up and let things run their course. If someone attacks and what not, they will slowly lose credibility, even if it doesn't seem that way. I do agree that having people post insulting things is never wanted. When you take an action though you'll always have those ready to pounce and try and discredit you, etc. Just everything in my involvement with online communities has taught me that. Delete dups and link porn lol
- Dean Clark
ryangraves: I've been deleting comments on my personal site too and blocking people here on FriendFeed. I've had enough of jerks in my life. I don't need to have them part of my life anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Ken -- I think it's because people expect guys who are covering Web 2.0 culture to approach it in a Web 2.0 way, not in a "We own this site and can do whatever we want with your (unnecessary) participation" kind of way. I think that's what's angering people. And given the potshots Scoble regularly takes at "Old media" I find it ironic.
- Omar Gallaga
@Mooney: what confuses me is why you or anyone would even want to insult Scoble. he does a very specific thing for a specific audience. he gets incredible access to great companies and people who open up to him because he is genuinely interested in them. that is a rare, valuable thing. he is not the most polished journalist in the world but i and many others are okay with that. i don't like airbrushed journalists who tick off the whos, whats, wheres and whys and move on.
- mike
Dean: I disagree with you. I used to agree. But then I look at how Digg has gone downhill and how YouTube's comments are totally worthless. Omar: Web 2.0 does not mean you have to put up with jerks or trolls. Sorry. If I ever gave you that opinion, then I was wrong.
- Robert Scoble
There's a fine line that needs to be established and enforced with any comment policy, but basically, anywhere you want to be a bully online, if it's not in your own schoolyard, expected it to get deleted. Robert, I think the problem here is that line needs to be more clearly defined.
- Paul Short
Andrew, philosophically i agree with you...but anyone who has run some kind of online forum or even blog comment section can tell you that if you let really aggressive, insulting comments become a regular thing, it can drive away the majority of users who would otherwise have a productive discussion. it's fast company's house and they can throw out whoever they want for whatever they want. that ability can be abused but in this case i think they did the right thing. especially since robert is talking here
- mike
I didn't see the comments, but I saw the video and I wish you had asked Tim more about BodyQUICK. I had to look long and hard to find the ingredients and then showed them to a Herbolist. She was very familiar with all the compounds, but laughed because the best of them would have been cheaply sourced and in minuscule quantities and the rest were fillers.
- paul mooney
Paul: I agree. I'm still trying to figure out where that line is too.
- Robert Scoble
Clearly, personal attacks ought to be axed but the line is fuzzy. I say err on the side of letting negative comments stay and address them head on. A negative comment, even one with a personal attack element, if properly addressed will usually do the trick, at least for the onlookers-- you will not sway the detractor, however. And like David Sky, I find the dissent worthy of notice, not negation.
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
Joseph: I used to agree. But if you let unconstructive comments run rampant it just takes over the tone and things turn worse and worse. It's one thing to do something simple like "I sorta like what you're doing, and here's how to make me really like it..." But it's a whole nother thing to come in and just try to make people feel bad. One is a constructive conversation, the other is just "I'm here to make a political point and rip you down." Er, "I wanna be a jerk."
- Robert Scoble
Mooney: why trust a content site at all? Either you like the content you see there, or you don't. If you care about the stuff you see there, but would get a little more enjoyment out of it if it were a little different, then let's have a conversation about that.
- Robert Scoble
Might it be best to deal with this sort of situation by just following a policy of turning off all comments? I don't just mean on this post in particular, but blogs in general. Push the conversation to platforms like Twitter, FriendFeed, the commentator's own blog, etc. Everybody is free to say what they'd like to say, nobody's forced to provide a platform/audience for views they don't agree with, but yet the material/discussion is still out there for anyone who wants to see it?
- Ken Sheppardson
Should the presidential candidates each have to provide some amount of time, on their dime, at the end of their ads/speeches for the other candidate to respond?
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken -- that's a dumb analogy and I mean that in the kindest, most constructive way possible.
- Omar Gallaga
If people dont have the brains to make decent comments, or the balls to name themselves, who cares if they are removed. Robert - Shel, just keep doing what you do well guys.
- Scott Purdie
I admit it. I've deleted some blog and forum comments too as well as edited out foul language when needed--though I'm more likely to delete than edit. Editing doesn't seem right. I've also walked away from people that want to endlessly argue about one thing or another, hung up on sales reps calling me and thrown away unopened mail. Should we require everyone to attend to everything anyone wants to say to them?
- Loren Heiny
Omar: I appreciate the feedback. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mike, i have had leadership roles at forums and on large IRC channels and i know it is hard to police and I also know from experience that annoying and unproductive comments make serious people less enticed to contribute but I also believe that good constructive criticism that is not overtly complimentary has an important place in the discussion (comments as it may be) as well. From what i can tell, some of the comments that were deleted fit this description while others were clearly personal attacks.
- Andrew Fielding
...(continued) that obviously did deserved to be either completely deleted or have specific parts of content censored. .... on a completely different note, I thought FriendFeed had no limit to the size of entries, i keep running into the fact that comments are limited in lenght, argh.
- Andrew Fielding
I think you should censor this type of information. I think people at the moment don't understand why it should be censored but then if a personal attack occured to them, they'd want it removed so i don't know why people are complaining about these things.
- Nicholas James
@Nicholas James I've had personal attacks taken on me in various forms at various locations and I take it all in good fun, if someone is wasting their time to make a personal attack on me I figure that means i've done something well enough to garner their attention and make them feel that i warrant a personal attack, this is all about each person's individual philosophy and what we believe should be the presiding philosophy in this instance.
- Andrew Fielding
On my blog, I ask ZDNet to kill all personal and nasty comments. Those comments inhibit serious discussion among other participants.
- Michael Krigsman
I admin a large online community. You have to be very strict moderating and remove personal attacks immediately. You also have to be very consistent. Leaving attacks up for a long time and then taking them down is the probelm here, you have set the wrong precedent. I agree that personal attacks should be removed but you need to do it consistently from now on.
- Chris Paton
I don't thnk comments need to be constructive though. It's fair to say the videos are not very good without offering solutions (as long as it's said in a non-offensive way). I personally have enjoyed watching many of the videos. Scoble and Shel are not TV personality types, they are just two geeks interested in what they are discussing. If they are discussing something I find interesting too I don't mind if they are sometimes little too close to the mic.
- Chris Paton
@mooney - you said, "Robert: You do understand how horrible your fastcompany.tv videos are?" that is pretty insulting.
- mike
@Andrew Fielding - point well taken. didn't mean to imply lack of experience. just trying to make a point that you obviously already understood. :-) and yes the limit on comment size is frustrating....usually leads me to only putting one space between periods and the next sentences.
- mike
Robert: You are getting it right, especially in the charity you grant differing views. This is the Slashdot vs Digg argument rehashed. Discussion management is the factor which determines your target audience. Slashdot routes around this with their own elaborate moderation/sliding scale system which allows individuals to decide what level of cruft they wish to be exposed to. You are catching flak due to *all powerful* editors making that decision for the populous. A common gripe when editors decide.
- Matt Bidinger
Bravo, Robert!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
@scobleizer Man, this comment thread is soooooooooooooo 2003 ;-)
- Hugh MacLeod
I agree with hugh... you should delete the whole thing and see how loud that makes the moaning and wailing! ;) Only kidding. Seriously tho... you have every right to say whatever you want on your own blog, FF, Twitter, and any other platform that allows you to say it. You do NOT have the right to say it on my blog, FF, Twitter, or any platform that I have control over. It's reality people. Learn to cope.
- Lucretia Pruitt
So what is the issue here? Pretend I'm new. Is this a matter of censorship vs freedom of speech? Is this a matter of personal attacks vs constructive criticism? Either way isn't that all best seen from the eyes of the person who has control to allow or decline those comments? No where am I shown that I am commanded to let people say anything they want on my sites.
- Mike Lewis
Simple solution - someone will register slowcorporationtvsucks.com (or perhaps even use the fastcompanytv name - it may be legally allowable in this instance). Only negative comments will be allowed. Verizon can sponsor to show that they "get it." Whatever "it" is.
- Ontario Emperor
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Loren apparently thinks "transparency" implies some kind of obligation to provide a platform for racist fuckwits and their sock puppets.
- Karim
Wow, this is one of the most serious discussions on FriendFeed ... I definitely agree with Robert on this one ... I think everyone deletes personal attacks ... u don't need a policy ... it is a rule of thumb in blogging
- Nick O'Neill
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- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
I have always had advertising even when at times I have not been focused on it. We offer a very highly targeted sought after niche market. I say good for you.
- Tom Royce
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the author has not surrendered copyright to his or her words simply by posting it as a comment-- so at least it's clear to me, the commentor owns the comments, absent some surrender of rights language on the post . The blog is given the right or license to publish them on the blog -- or unpublish them (delete them)--- but not to reproduce them elsewhere. Just this atty's opinion
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
@Joe: I definitely see that POV, but I think a lot would depend on user's expectations... and the saying that 9/10s of the law is possession. For example, when someone leaves a comment on RCG, I feel like they've added it to the "community" and have given up certain rights (such as the right to force me to delete the comment). Granted, there also seems to be an implicit understanding that I won't "change" their comment, but that doesn't change the fact that I have "possession" over their comment.
- Dustin
@Dustin Yes, they've given up rights to RCG i.e. publication on RCG, deletion (or edit according to your policy) by you. But I think that's as far is it goes.. I dont think they give you the right to republish the comments somewhere else (potential problem with Disqus). Basically you are given the right to publish on RCG only. But the right to publish is not ownership--- it comes down to copyright law which is a bundle of rights-- all severable. RCG has 1 of them
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
Wouldn't this in some way be related to that flap with AOL moderators way back in the stone age?
- G.Dewald
@G.Dewald: is this the issue you were thinking about: http://news.cnet.com/2100-10...
- Dustin
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NYC Tweetup. Meet at 5th Ave. Apple store at 10 am today. 425-205-1921. Where after that? Take us somewhere fun.
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- Robert Scoble
better choose something indoors; they're predicting thunderstorms. Stay dry!
- steveo
Is that your real phone number? I can't imagine publically posting something so private!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Yes, that is my cell phone number. It has been on my blog for years and nothing negative has happened yet.
- Robert Scoble
I've always had a number of some sort on my webpage/sig/blog. It's part of being transparent and accountable for your words.
- Andrew Feinberg
Good to know that nothing negative has ever happened. I'm just entirely too much of a private individual to be that transparent. But I don't position myself to where that sort of thing is necessary for me, either.
- Akiva Moskovitz
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- Marc Canter
right. I like 50-100 things a day so I can still access things later. Plus the search engine is where the real magic lies.
- Robert Scoble
so as I comment on your comment and you're hanging at the Apple store - disparate threads can be united, saved and commented on - and they WON'T get locked up inside of FriendFeed, Twitter or anywhere else. I mean I love FF - but those guys don't need the money, right? They're rich already!
- Marc Canter
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- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
Opinions sought: Are ads (tasteful and somewhat discrete) on a Real Estate blog good, bad, or indifferent?
Folks are used to ads everywhere. And what's wrong with a little extra dough in your pocket. If The New York Times can run ads, so can we.
- Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius
IMO a certain amount of ads is OK on a blog. When it becomes distracting to reading the content or if a blog just looks like it's sole purpose is to be monetized is when I click elsewhere.
- Brad Coy
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