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Facebook's Purchase Is Bid to Own Social Media - washingtonpost.com - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
Jesper Kjær Hansen, Sean Rasmussen, Ho John Lee and 48 other people liked this
"Facebook's purchase of FriendFeed, an obscure social-media platform, is potentially momentous. To understand why, we must understand FriendFeed, a start-up that is ubiquitous among techies and unknown to everybody else. It's a sleek application that acts as a clearinghouse for all of your social-media activities."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Excellent and perceptive article and a no brainer purchase by Facebook.One only wonders why it took them so long
- Michael Q Todd
Washington Post, who you callin' obscure? ;-)
- Laura Norvig
Indeed, "obscure" has suspect or somewhat negative connotations! Guess the Post is still catching up ...
- Bo Stern
You tell 'em, Laura.
- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Next Article>> "Internets Show Promise as Communication Medium"
- thegeniusfiles
Michael, it took so long because friendfeed didn't want to be bought. i'm sure it was a tough decision, but they did eventually decided to sell and let's hope it was all for the better
- Chris Heath
facebook and friendfeed together are a game changer. I'm surprised more people don't seem to understand why
- Helen M Overland
LOL no kidding, FF is really only FB's rival on the world wide net, 50ms Twitter was only going for bout 70 with a huge user base discrepancy, both negotiators, those on each side knew it for about 2 years, I've been told. Remember Louis G, it's all about the river duh...Know who contributed to that article?
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Who do you think contributed to the article, Shawn? I didn't see any quotes. It was more of a summary.
- Louis Gray
Time for another sosial media platform?
- Thyge
Cool, I am now one of the techie and obscure. ;-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
How to add "Send to Instapaper" into Google Reader - http://www.willw.net/adding-...
Helen M Overland, HealingBrush, Mona Nomura and 4 other people liked this
Thanks for this Steve
- Ian Wright
As far as I can tell, there's still no way to send links to instapaper, etc from the iPhone greader ui :/
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Metaphysical question: if FriendFeed is "dead" why do I see the fail whale almost daily on Twitter but not on FriendFeed?
Fuad Arshad, Ladyepiphanybug, Susan Beebe and 35 other people liked this
duh, the answer is *always* 42
- acedanger
Something like that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
because twitter has more users and use more resources?
- Stalyn☂
Stayly: wrong. Absolutely wrong. Twitter crashed all the time before I even had 1,000 friends.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I think Twitter's model may not be scalable enough....it was fine when the geeks are on it. . .but after the "Oprah" effect everyone from celebrities to the the Tom,Dick and Harry generation....Twitter cannot take it. Correct me if I am wrong, but FF -may- go down that path, but we have yet to see the same number of people jumping on FF like Twitter. Maybe the founders of FF should have an interview with Oprah?
- Wei-Yen Tan
from IM
Twitter hasn't gotten any new features in almost three years, either while FriendFeed has gotten tons.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
At this point it doesnt matter why FF will never be what it was. the only thing certain is its end.
- Stalyn☂
Just being realistic hannahnicklin
- Stalyn☂
hannahnicklin: that isn't why I joined Twitter. I liked having a blog that was like IM.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I can't see us here having a conversation about FF by next august. FB don't have time to invest on FF the domain.
- Stalyn☂
Prediction: Twitter will be the next Friendster/Altavista/AOL.
- Gary
Stayln I disagree. Lots of things are "dead" but still are popular. Hotmail. Delicious. Flickr. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I guess, after all plurk still around. somehow.
- Stalyn☂
So long as they use the Facebook social graph., I'm not sure that they would care. They could use FriendFeed as a premium brand under a larger Facebook umbrella.
- Gary
It's all trending. MySpace, AOL, and Friendster are dead, but at least the first two have more users than FriendFeed and maybe even Twitter.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
hannahnicklin thats funny
- Wei-Yen Tan
from IM
I need to know why plurk still alive?
- Stalyn☂
Hannah, not everyone will wear blue. Enterprise users will all wear red. Remember that Oracle buys stuff. :)
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Because there are less people on Friendfeed. A lot less!
- Devon Govett
from iPod
Edward http://www.plurk.com
- Stalyn☂
The Russian Mafia.
- Dean Clark
Dean you fail.
- Stalyn☂
When Louis Gray did a panel with Bret Taylor, he talked about how when they were at Google how obsessed they were with page load times. It's built into their DNA.
- Stephen Pickering
Twitter was not built to scale. Their infrastructure is not redundant and is not catching up with their growth. FriendFeed has also had the benefit of fewer users, and a smart, experienced team that knows how to build for growth.
- Louis Gray
Plurk is more popular than Friendfeed so maybe that's why they are still around? http://trends.google.com/website...
- Stephanie
sometimes have to wonder if Twitter has jumped the shark #failshark now that would make an interesting graphic...
- George Hall (Australia)
from BuddyFeed
Maybe Twitter jumped the shark when the celebrities competed for 1M followers. #failshark
- Dennis Jernberg
Devon: totally wrong. Twitter fail whales when it had a lot fewer people on it than FriendFeed does.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Twitter cant manage itself and with out a quick investment soon they will not be able to pay the hosting ,the site is working like shit and they do not care,maybe a deal with Google is done and they just dont publish that
- Johni Fisher
FriendFeed +is+ my reality.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Because twitter has been able to capture people's imagination. Friendfeed has/had a much better team/technology/feature set, but one ingredient seem to have been missing. I am not sure why they gave up so early.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
So who's going to come up with an actual "fail shark" pic/graphic?
- George Hall (Australia)
"fail shark" http://dl.getdropbox.com/u...
- April
If anyone else wants to take a crack at it, I found some free, royalty-free shark vectors here: http://www.vectorjungle.com/2009...
- April
Mark: 42
- Roberto Bonini
Is there any connection between Twitter being down & Facebook being super buggy this morning? What do you think? Discuss:
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疯狂的糯米, 夜の猫, Thierry Lhôte and 101 other people liked this
OMG, I can't even stay connected to Facebook at all. Been trying to chat with a friend (using Adium) and connect...disconnect...connect...etc.
- Kenley Neufeld
I just reset my router twice thinking it was me.
- Kenley Neufeld
A feedback loop that keeps knocking both services down?
- Paul Jacobson
Helen :)
- Susan Beebe
This is teaching us something about the framework of the current Internet traffic patterns. We're watching cascade scale problems from one major Internet program going down.
- Melanie Reed
Mashable article: Twitter Down: Twitter Doesn’t Know Why ---> http://mashable.com/2009...
- Susan Beebe
Just checked with my FB peeps, and the weather over here is much better. Was very hard to get posting done over there.
- Brenda Young
This is the longest outage twitter's had in a LONG time... something is definitely wrong... ouch
- Susan Beebe
Yes, FB is receiving more traffic and twitter says its a DOS attack http://status.twitter.com/post...
- cheapsuits
interesting possibility: a massive DoS attack on all SNS properties at the same time! with no SNS people might go at each other tooth and nail. this would make a great Onion report!
- MikeAmundsen
I'm with Helen on this one - after Scoble's Great Unfollow, Twitter's database is so full of holes they're having to do a massive reorg...
- Andrew Terry
Twitter Status: "Update: we are defending against a denial-of-service attack." http://status.twitter.com/post... -- 11:00 am EST
- Susan Beebe
(can something be *full* of holes or is that oxymoron?)
- Andrew Terry
Andrew -LOL
- Susan Beebe
Posterous seems to be down, too, for what it's worth.
- Eric Johnson
Posterous is working for me (for now)
- Susan Beebe
You can read "panic tweets" from Twitterers about Twitter being down: http://bit.ly/lA7HK
- Gus
@ Andrew - there's a model in Chaos Theory where you take a cube, hollow a hole in the exact centre of each side, then keep repeating the process - end result? A finite cube containing an infinite number of holes :)
- Iain Baker
Susan - Posterous is back for me, too. And was a 500 server error, so probably not DoS related.
- Eric Johnson
So I guess we ought to help the folks at Twitter out and shut down our Twitter clients? I expect that zillions of API calls aren't helping their situation right now...
- Eric Johnson
Facebook, LiveJournal, and Twitter all down, to much of a coincidence to be a coincidence? API calls all the way
- courtney benson
Wondering now if that suggestions a massive DDoS attack launched against a bunch of sites, or possibly also infrastructure issues as well?
- Susan Beebe
@Iain - Really? That's so cool!
- Andrew Terry
Some post mentioned a major core router being down in GA, not sure how reliable that is.
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
TWITTER suffering a dDOS attack official at 11am EDT
- OLDBEACHBUM
Jack - Thank you, something big is brewing here...not looking good
- Susan Beebe
Ooooh - let's blame North Korea! (or are we not allowed to since they let the reporters go yesterday?)
- amygeek
I'm assuming this will take CNN a few days to report.
- Derek Huether, PMP, CSM
Derek - hahaha good one!
- Susan Beebe
my FF has crashed every time I've tried to subscibe
- WarLord
It does feel like everything's either under treacle or attack. I'm hoping it's treacle.
- Dan Biddle
@biz ---> Thursday, August 06, 2009 Denial of Service Attack On this otherwise happy Thursday morning, Twitter is the target of a denial of service attack. Attacks such as this are malicious efforts orchestrated to disrupt and make unavailable services such as online banks, credit card payment gateways, and in this case, Twitter for intended customers or users. We are defending against...
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- Susan Beebe
Thought that was just my slow Australian connection - or the huge full moon in the sky tonight o)
- Chris Loft
Of course there is, the two sites are highly interconnected and trouble with one will cause problems with any service which continues to access twitter to update their users profiles
- Lillian Banchik
Ohhh... I don't recall Twitter being down for such a long period of time, although I must say I've seen a sudden rise of spam lately.
- Bruno Mertins
God, just figured out that we would all have to go back to talking to one another in person or on the phone if this continues.
- courtney benson
cnet article, "There has been no indication that any of these various attacks are connected. But it's probably not a coincidence that they all coincide with the annual Defcon hacker convention." (Twitter crippled by denial-of-service attack) -- http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
- Susan Beebe
Baffled I've been trying to post this to you at Twitter -- I knew a hooter / thought - did she have a suitor / or was I too late? /// #haiku #haikuchallenge
- Chris Loft
I wonder how much impact (think overhead) those stupid Spam Bots cause for twitter? 24% of all twitter traffic is due to spam bots - augh!
- Susan Beebe
Courtney - LOL ... that is too funny!
- Susan Beebe
They're probably both the government. Real talk.
- professor daddyo
military is testing inet/SNS preparedness/vulns.
- MikeAmundsen
They're being hit by a DOS attack, http://status.twitter.com/post...
- Rob Fahrni
CNN finally picked up the story. Slooooooow
- Derek Huether, PMP, CSM
About 8-12 hrs ago, Facebook kept giving me "Database Write Failed" errors: "An error occurred while writing to our database. Please try again later or contact customer support."
- Mitchell Tsai
Yep, I've been getting all kinds of Facebook "transport errors" while attempting to wall post, comment, etc.
- Susan Beebe
Derek - that was slow, but CNN is getting better! LOL
- Susan Beebe
Twitter Status Blog - 2nd Update: "Ongoing denial-of-service attack -- We are defending against a denial-of-service attack, and will update status again shortly. Update: the site is back up, but we are continuing to defend against and recover from this attack."
- Susan Beebe
my Blog post --> http://www.susanbeebe.com/social-...
- Susan Beebe
Coordinated attack by FriendFeed? ;)
- Jemm
No way! Remember Paul Buchheit, one of FriendFeed's founders, coined the term "Do No Evil" when he was at Google. The FF team is really cool, no bad dudes over there!
- Susan Beebe
YAY twitter is back up!!! :)
- Susan Beebe
@Susan: I know, just kidding by stating a thing which is way too absurd to be true;)
- Jemm
LOL
- Susan Beebe
FWIW, I always thought Google's catchphrase "do no evil" would have been better when qualifying a statement, like this: "Let the old lady finish crossing the street; don't be evil"
- Richard Walker
See GigaOm's VISUAL on the Twitter outage (web traffic data provided by AlertSite.com) -- http://gigaom.com/2009...
- Susan Beebe
Twitter Status Blog UPDATE [12:46pm EST] : "Update (9:46a): As we recover, users will experience some longer load times and slowness. This includes timeouts to API clients. We’re working to get back to 100% as quickly as we can."
- Susan Beebe
Update: Now FACEBOOK admits they too were subjected to DDoS attack today too!! --> RT @AdamOstrow: Facebook Problems Also the Result of DDoS Attack - http://mashable.com/2009... (via http://ff.im/6fTyC)
- Susan Beebe
Here's a Facebook "Database Write Error" I saw repeatedly last night ~1-3 am ET, before the DDoS attacks this morning. http://ff.im/6fUfO I'm not sure if there weren't precursors to the main DDoS attacks at 6 am today, but Facebook was having weird issues a few hours earlier.
- Mitchell Tsai
Facebook kept giving me the ol' "transport error" messages - tons of 'em too!
- Susan Beebe
Funny. I could not log into Twitter, Tweetdeck or Facebook for over an hour. Then I had this sudden horror that an aweful event, such as a terrorist attack, would flood both sites with traffic and cause this. I went to CNN- there was the story of Twitters DDoS Attack.
- E-Advocate Network
Pretty scary stuff, huh? I wonder who would be behind all this. Hope they catch 'em and lock 'em up!
- Susan Beebe
Susan, I also got lots of AJAX transport errors & long delays at Facebook, but those happena ll the time. This was the first time I've seen the "database write error".
- Mitchell Tsai
I blame North Korea
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
To deal with future network problems, we need an emergency backup mechanism to access twitter: carrier pigeons. http://crankypm.com/2009...
- DGentry
Hope they catch them too Susan. I sure was releived to find it was a cyber attack causing the flood instead of people reporting on a real life attack though! I do worry about real time events right now that are lagging coverage due to this: #iranelection.
- E-Advocate Network
Yay!! Google, facebook and twitter are investigating the DDoS attacks today! See Mashable's post about it here: http://mashable.com/2009...
- Susan Beebe
Seriously, even Friendfeend, via Buddyfeed client, was unavailable a few times. I'll venture a guess the DoS attack targetted a whole heap of social media at the one time.
- George Hall (Australia)
That bird pic at the top of the thread is intriguing. Is it public domain?
- George Hall (Australia)
Hardly use Facebook. When I update facebook it's when I do a mass update through Ping.fm, other than that I hardly use it.
- Patrick
Where did you get the dead bluebird icon? I love it.
- shelisrael1
I think this is a definite competitor for the Fail Whale!
- Justin Davey
Are they both routed through the same Bay Area server network? Just askin'. Maybe there's a rapid growth of Twitter-to-FB feeds that's screwing up everything? I also like the dead bluebird & upside down FB graphics!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I had much trouble w/ FB this morning as well. It got better after the rain stopped. A day w/o SM is a day without sunshine.
- shelisrael1
AP reports that a pro-Abkhazia activist blogger, who uses the account name "Cyxymu," (the name of a town in the Republic of Georgia) is related to the attacks on SNS. Whether the pro-side (Georgia) or con-side (Russia) coordinated the attacks is unknown. "There's very little way of distinguishing which side was taking this action, because either side could hypothetically benefit from...
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- Mitchell Tsai
lots Blogger as well and Livejournal. It was a concentrated attack.
- Rob Cairns
Mitchell - wow, thank you for the awesome insights into the DDoS attack story. I truly appreciate the info and citations you kindly provided here. Good stuff, as always!!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Cathryn - I flipped the facebook logo upside down - glad you like it!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Thanks for the photo credit details, Susan.
- George Hall (Australia)
I think the dead twitter bird is cute!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
yes, I belive there is close connection.
- eva
Iran
- heretic_twit
wondering what the final verdict will be on the DDoS attack and how we can prevent them in the future .... hmmm
- Susan Beebe
Down but not own.................
- Kevin J Hatton
seems like whatever Google did mitigated the attack on their end, it'd be interesting to see what data google could provide to twitter and facebook on how to protect from ddos attacks in the future
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
Mike - agreed!! Google's insights would be really important for future hardening of systems to defend DDoS attacks
- Susan Beebe
Fri 8/7 UPDATE: @Twitter: "Due to defense measures some Twitter clients are unable to communicate with our API, and many users are unable to tweet via SMS."
- Susan Beebe
Fri 8/7 UPDATE: Twitter STATUS Blog: "Restoring API and SMS [12:42pm EST] Due to defensive measures we’ve taken against the ongoing denial-of-service attack, some Twitter clients are unable to communicate with our API, and many users are unable to tweet via SMS. We are working as quickly as possible to restore our full service. "
- Susan Beebe
Why do you use Facebook ? I mean it's a site for < 17 years old
- Thierry Lhôte
Twitter Outage Explained: What’s a Distributed Denial of Service Attack (DDoS)? - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Denial of Service Attacks Being Investigated by Google, Twitter, Facebook - http://mashable.com/2009...
Sam Harrelson, Helen M Overland and Carlton Hackett liked this
I see there's tons of new people here on friendfeed participating. How do I know that? Because there are tons of white icons in comments. That means I am not following you yet. Just a month ago all I saw were blue icons. That's cool and welcome to all the newbies!
Tyson Key, Robert Freeze, Steffan Antonas and 72 other people liked this
I'm not really a newbie, per se. Been on here a while, just haven't commented much, Robert.
- John Fox
i am trying to bring some of my tech/faith minded friends on here over the next couple days.
- Tony
you da man Robert always interseting... ha ha from Sydney australia
- Chris Henderson
John: well, you now are a blue icon. :-) Thanks.
- Robert Scoble
good to hear Robert. we needed some new blood.
- Carlos Ayala
Build it and they will come. "Supply Creates Demand"
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: Thanks for the follow. You completely rock. I love your insight into all things social media.
- John Fox
FriendFeed should offer something to people who join from Twitter. Perhaps a delicious pastry or a fetching t-shirt.
- Brett Kelly
Using FF more because I've figured out I can use Twitter for news ... and FriendFeed for actual conversation :)
- Curt Mercadante
Curt: bing!
- Robert Scoble
Curt: ooh, nice distinction.
- Tony
Robert, Bing is something entirely different altogether ;-) Welcome to all the new faces!
- FFing Enigma
Curt has got it on! I stick by my complaint that that it's not actual discussion, just comments. Discussion would entail threads, + better management when discussions get too overwhelming at 50 comments.
- Malcolm Bastien
welcome x
- David Lloyd
@malcolm how can you make that assertion with such limited participation here? i disagree with your comment...it is the "actual discussion". i think we may have successfully redefined the terminology.
- Carlos Ayala
And friend feed new people - Avoid this link like the plague - http://ff.im/3EcXi
- Brent - Yes I am
How's that nap going, Robert?
- Brent - Yes I am
Thanks to my new iPhone I can now be more active and addicted to Twitter and friendfeed.
- John Ford
Brent: it's not, someone just invited me to a private party. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
This proves the point that you are sub'd to the entire base. Interesting...
- anna sauce
Should I be offended that you're not following me yet :(
- John Meagher
follow the white rabbit, mr. scoble. (me) :P
- Oguz Serdar
We're proud newbies too (on friendfeed) - make our icon blue to you
- HippyGourmet
As long as Oprah doesn't come to visit, welcome n00bs!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
anna: actually I'm not. Most people don't participate. I only subscribe to those who participate. And even of those I only follow a small number. For instance, I only follow those who speak English. There are tons on friendfeed who don't speak English.
- Robert Scoble
First day on FriendFeed, glad to connect Robert.
- Gabe Taviano
Yeah I haven't been here in a while. Everything has changed. It isn't as small as it used to be (I was here right after it started).
- Jake (aka Jawee)
I'm a newbie to Friendfeed as a result of the interview with Don Tapscott. Thanks!
- Brian Ostrovsky
Jake I'm with you. I left Friend feed for a very long time because there was nothing here. The times they have been a changing.
- Brent - Yes I am
I'm still trying to figure out how to really make use of this other than just lurking.
- John Meagher
Friendfeed is for lurking
- Charbax
There is a video that Johhny Worthington made which might answer that question mark, on participating, if I can find it, John.
- Brent - Yes I am
Yeah, but there's got to be more to it than *just* lurking
- John Meagher
Twitter's for lurking and blasting links, FF is for conversation and community engagement.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Brent: is this the video you meant? http://friendfeed.com/jworthi...
- John Meagher
You start some interesting discussions here, I'll have to try & comment more.
- Steve de Mena
Thanks for the welcome. Looking forward to contributing to the conversation ;)
- art jones
Yes that is it John
- Brent - Yes I am
I totally agree Mark....I do lurk on Twitter with an occasional tweet, but love the "conversations" on FF, and find that I have been participating more and more lately.
- Bonnie Foster
Sometimes it takes a while to catch on. Friendfeed is much more interactive than the others. If yo have interesting friends they post interesting stuff. No filtering necessary. The spammers do not get followed.
- Alan Morris
I am not really a FF newbie. I started with a private feed, shared with some friends some times ago. Then, Brome convinced me to turn my account into public. I then started to comment in english... And here I am!
- DAL
I was asking to myself why there are blue and white icons on comments.. I have tons of whites though.
- Jacque
I never knew any blue comment, maybe I should follow more people and start commenting
- Hendra Saputra
from Nambu
twit, twit, twit, what more can I say
- Cace Ackerson
Robert, perhaps it's also related to Friendfeed being picked up in Feedburner count?
- Brian Wallace
FriendFeed rocks the house and i am totally happy with it!! Have to say: I luv it :)
- Ronald
FriendFeed does rock, but it is very much a geeks tool. My wife has gotten into twitter but no luck with friendfeed
- Chris Patterson
Tip of the hat to you too
- Bret Rowe
Yeah, I'm been a lurker on here on FF for the past age and am only getting "in to" it in the last while... Have to turn a lot more of those whites to blue :)
- Paul OFlaherty
Thread hijack: Worst Photoshop of a Woman ever? http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter...
- David Lloyd
The Dam Just Broke: Facebook Opens Up to OpenID http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... WOW
ʕʘ˕̥ʘʔ Нейродинамика, Kol Tregaskes, Jesper Lind and 28 other people liked this
Great news! It's about time. Now I will really start worrying about keeping my OpenID account (I use http://claimID.com) and contacts up to date.
- Ruby Sinreich
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Wow, this is major. My congratulations to the whole OpenID community.
- Meryn Stol
I actually can't see how to log in with openid (or Google account). There's only a username/password option.
- Meryn Stol
It's about time!! Good on ya OpenID.
- Drew Lucas
Otherwise, I think that nowadays, the question of identity pales with the question of data portability, and especially the real-time exchange between networks. Singular identity is just a tiny, tiny bit of it all. And given Facebook's "legacy" with privacy settings (and privacy demands from users), I don't think they can truly open up any time. Twitter and FriendFeed, while neither one of them are accepting openid, can open up "all the way" in the future. They can go where Facebook can't.
- Meryn Stol
Marshall, Great article, and I like that you argued a point made on another tech blog. I can't remember the last time I saw that done (well).
- Brandon Mendelson
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
VEry very sweet.. Can't wait till I see it on my acct... well I can see it but it seems to be a bit buggy. If you go to "Settings -> Account Settings -> Linked Accounts" you can hook up your open id provider. So far I haven't gotten it to work with either my claimid one or my chi.mp one. I only tried the chi.mp one becuase my primary (claimid) wasn't being recognized by facebook. If someone gets this to work please let me know!
- Bill Rawlinson
I'll be more impressed when Facebook becomes an outy versus an inny. Good move though. I score it a "meh +"
- tomturnbull
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
has anyone actually logged in facebook using openid? there's no such form on the site :( you can only link your account, but not use it for login
- arty
Meryn and arty, I noticed the same thing. I was able to link my openid account, but what's the point if I can't login with it? nor is there the ability to register using openid. did they just make the announcement w/o rolling out functionality?
- chrisofspades
Twitter Tees: Twitter Launches Official Threadless T-Shirt Store - http://mashable.com/2009...
James Armfield, Helen M Overland, K.D. and 4 other people liked this
TWITTER MONETIZES!!! Hah.
- Robert Scoble
Good article. Here's the direct link to the threadless store for twitter (http://twitter.threadless.com/). Save you some time looking for it.
- AJ Batac :)
Where is the Fail Whale tee?
- Hiro Asari
BREAKING NEWS: Twitter's business model revealed ... T-Shirts! - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Reading: The IAB Sets Some Standards For Social Ads http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Twitter Client War: Twhirl vs. TweetDeck - http://scobleizer.com/2009...
Helen M Overland, Adrian, Nigel Kitchen and 79 other people liked this
i still like tweetdeck better :)
- Rodney Rumford
I'm sure Twhirl is fabulous and I really appreciate @Loic and his engaging method of development, but I just can't beat TweetDeck's multi-column layout. It's ideal for a 30" cinema display but equally at home running full screen on MBPro
- Conor Ogle
TweetDeck uses too much memory for my computer, so I use Twhirl
- @LarsenTweet
Neither, I still prefer Twitterific on a Mac. If I had to decide between these both: probably Twhirl, even though I hate their scrolling implementation.
- Holger Eilhard
I like them both but prefer tweetdeck for single account mgmt. Twirl works well for multiple account mgmt
- Tim FitzGerald
I go back and forth between the two. TweetDeck: love the multi-column group management, but hate the memory usage and inability to sync group lists across machines. Twhirl: I like the FriendFeed and Seesmic integration, but I miss the group list management offered by TweetDeck. To TweetDeck's credit, they are soliciting input on what issues to tackle next; group sync and memory issues were on the list.
- Brian Shoemaker
I prefer the Tweetdeck interface but am using Twhirl because I need to manage multiple accounts.
- Herb Hernandez
At home, Tweetdeck. What about when mobile though? I used tweetdeck on a UMPC at MBC09 (saves my mobile phone for other duties!) and will have a bunch of mobile PC devices at SXSW to do the same (i'm testing them) Seems to me that Tweetdeck + powerful browser on the go would be perfect for microbloggers.
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I prefer to use clients that extend beyond twitter.. Preferably Friendfeed and Facebook as well. feedalizr is good. Any other alternatives?
- Abhishek Kumar
from feedalizr
Twhirl feels clunky and it's UI is too complex. Twitterific is perfect for day to day personal use, but Tweetdeck is great for corp accounts.
- Giovanni Ghignone
I use TweetDeck primarily, but it needs Twhirl's lookup feature in the worst way. That one feature keeps me going back and forth. Oh yeah, and multiple accounts. Love Twhirl for that.
- Gimme Blu Frog!
neither of them, They just don't feel right to me. I developed my own which has what I need.
- Darren Stuart
I use Twhirl more, just got Tweetdeck a day ago, like the layout for management. I love Spaz though, sorry!
- Jay Cameron
I started as a big Twhirl fan, til the day it wasn't working. I desperately seek for an option and tried TweetDeck. It was too big in my screen, too annoying with its sound alerts, but then, ok: it got me! groups features became very handy and good to use Twitter for working tasks. I still think TweetDeck could benefit from some Twhirl features - specially after Seesmic acquisition, but can't see myself going back to it anymore.TweetDeck is my favorite one! =]
- May
iam sticking with twhirl for now...
- Stephan Linzner
@ninjamonk which tool did you develop?
- Abhishek Kumar
from feedalizr
i'm liking the new twhirl has some great features and looks like the tool for seesmic users for sure, tweetdeck would be my pick if i was following loads of people
- Adam Gersbach
@Abhishek Kumar I did crowdstatus.com and have built an AIR client based on it but its still not ready as I am in an arms race :p
- Darren Stuart
I use both. Twhirl allows both of my accounts open side-by-side and it's integration with Seesmic is VERY cool. Tweetdeck's layout has superior advantages - especially "sub-groups" and topics to follow.
- Stan Dubin
Twhirl
- Vishy
I like Tweetdeck but recently added a second Twitter account so now using Twhirl. If Tweetdeck had multiple account functionality (and Friendfeed connection) I would switch back.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
I'm using Friendfeed Realtime and Tweetdeck if I'm not on my Samsung NC10 Netbook.
- Marius QúådflÌÊg
http://twtpoll.com/r/jaqtnw still, more people use Twitter from the web...
- Orli Yakuel
I love Twhirl, but it only lacks the groups of users feature of Tweetdeck. I love Tweetdeck, but it lacks the notifying popup for each twit of Twhirl.
- americanm
Tweetdeck on my personal laptop (usage times vary - not always on). Last night app wasn't working right!
- Susan Beebe
I prefer Tweetdeck. Don't ask me why, call it design or robustness but I like it better.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Some sort of hybrid of the two would be perfect, until then I use both.
- Iain Baker
I really agree with this :)
- Liviu Lica
I can't decide, I like Tweetdeck because its nice and big and love the muliple colums, but I like twhirl because I can pick up Friendfeed, Seesmic and TWitarmy.... hard to decide
- Kim Landwehr
I use tweetdeck because of the groups. I have a tab for my favorites and one for people in my country/language (Netherlands). I don't care much for other features like video or integration with other services. Ideally tweetdeck would have the possibility of one column with tabs and save groups and searches.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Robert, this goes back to your recent "real-time web" post: how do you gather together the outcomes of discussions on the various sites? Someone could post a great comment on the post at scobleizer.com, but it wouldn't show up on your FriendFeed unless you or someone else did an equivalent of a re-tweet. What's the preferred reply etiquette these days?
- Paul Robertson
twhirl, far better
- Richard A.
I had thwirl, but never really used it much. I did switch to tweetdeck a while ago (for the second time and have grown to like it a lot. However, I use mobile apps most (slandr/twitstat mobile).
- Arne Hulstein
Tweetdeck is lifesaver by allowing groups.
- Kenley Neufeld
I don't use any Twitter clients. I use Twhirl for Laconica
- LouCypher
While my first choice is still the Web, for TwitApps I am a Twhirl Girl.
- Martha
twhirl will always rule for me until someone else allows me to do ff in the same client. Although Tweetdeck has some great features, the future of client apps is clearly in supporting multiple networks, which only twhirl does, so it's no contest.
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
If TweetDeck handled multiple accounts, I'd probably switch back. I like grouping folks so I'm not forced to unfollow those who leash bouts of Twitterrhea ;)
- webojunk
I switch between both depending on the mood of the day.. The one feature I am waiting on is the group feature in Twhirl.. then hard to judge..
- Bill Moore
from twhirl
I love Twhirl. This may seem weird, but tried TweetDeck and it seemed too masculine for my tastes.
- Julie Bovee Hill
Tweetdeck hands down
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
I still just use the web interface, or Cellity Tweeter or one of the WAP/mobile web-based clients, if I'm Twittering on my phone.
- Tyson Key
TweetDeck. No doubt.I love groups and searches for monitoring things. Especially once I wrote backup/restore scripts so I could move settings between machines.
- Scott Kingery
I rotate between Twhirl and the Firefox add-on, Friendbar.
- Doug
DestroyTwitter is a really nice program as well.. and fast...
- Jaap Willem
from twhirl
Twhirl does FriendFeed, laconica, and seesmic too. Support bit.ly + api for stats. winner hands down.
- Glenn Batuyong
Will have to try the new Twhirl, but if its anything like the old, then I will probably still prefer Tweetdeck's multi column interface
- Peter Efland
Until Tweetdeck supports multi account I won't even consider leaving Twhirl
- adolfo foronda
I just tried twhirl again and shut it off immediately and went back to tweetdeck. I like the groups in tweetdeck a lot. It allows me to follow a group more closely as it lowers the noise for that group.
- Shamir Katsu
Alert Thingy just made a new release too. TC wrote them up. From the post, "...AlertThingy has added support for six more services: Ping.fm, Basecamp, Huddle, TwitPic, TwitterSearch, and Yammer. That makes for a total of 13 services, which already included Digg, Facebook, Flickr, Jaiku, TinyURL, Tumblr, and Twitter."
- coldbrew
Here's the link: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- coldbrew
I use twhirl 4 multi-accounts and tweetdeck 4 main account. I also use 3 monitors running on the same computer & tweetdeck dedicated to one.
- Moses Kpetigo
I like twhirl because it supports identi.ca as well as FriendFeed. If TweetDeck supported FriendFeed, I'd make the switch. Oh, multiple accounts - Twhirl does that, TweetDeck is lacking
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
tweetdeck is broken for me right now... not sure why. Only displays @replies and searches; NO feed and no DMs (not complaining there!)
- Susan Beebe
I use both
- andy brudtkuhl
sounds like the stupidest war ever
- sean percival
They're both unfree. Don't use either of them. Use a free one. If there is no free one, then don't use one till there is.
- Gregg H.
Gregg: what do you mean? I haven't paid for either one.
- Robert Scoble
Agreed- both are free. Who is paying? I think twhirl is great for general use and multiple services (as you pointed out), Tweetdeck is good for those that really, really want (or need) to organize their stream. The interface is daunting however and I found Tweetdeck was slow to update. Now if you are talking iApps- Twitterfon FTW! I also love the "get more people to talk about it!" line- Scoble continues to tell it like it is.
- Alyx
from twhirl
Robert: Free, as in freedom. But, I suppose if you're using a completely user subjugating OS that has no respect for your freedom like Mac or Windows, then one more little freedom killing app like this won't matter anyway.
- Gregg H.
Tweetdeck it is for me ... sadly it just got borked and refused to work on my Ubuntu 8.10 desktop
- Murali
TweetDeck is my choice as well.
- Darrell Madore
falling in love with Alert Thingy... similar than Tweetdeck and more usable
- Luca Filigheddu
Now, if AlertThingy would work on my machine, I'd give that a try, but unfortunately, it doesn't populate the window with posts on my end. :(
- Alexander Kucera
I am still trying to figure out which one I like best, but for the most part I think twhirl is best for sending and TweekDeck is best for viewing.
- Chris Patterson
I use them both but mostly use Tweetdeck. It would be great to have better picture submission with Tweetdeck and a reduced memory footprint as I have to shut it down regularly as it becomes sluggish.
- Kirti Vashee
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