"This outdoor staircase is for those who like extreme experiences. Hope this is not the… emergency exit :) . Located at Palace of Congresses in Biel, Switzerland."
- Jackie
from Bookmarklet
I wish you had linked this story directly to the copy. I could not find it. Thanks for taking me down memory lane. To think how far we have come from Hotwired's genius of coining the term to the ridiculous amounts of money people paid and still pay for PPC.
- Gabriella Sannino
il conte di montecristo a me è piaciuto tantissimo, consiglio :)
- natzuka
conte di montecristo forever. appassionante
- Pietro Izzo
il conte mi è piaciuto parecchio, quello sì
- procionegobbo
io lo adoro (mi sono sciroppata anche Vent'anni dopo e il Visconte di Bragelonne, che non sono certo allo stesso livello - ma per Porthos questo e altro). Non puoi farti mancare il Conte di Montecristo. Certo, il gusto è pur sempre quello: ottocentesco e di consumo. Ma una volta che ti sei calato nel clima...
- PaperDoll
se esce in questa collana me lo compro anche montecristo, io sono un patito delle uscite settimanali, mi danno sicurezza.
- Adamo Lanna
Ci sono parti chiaramente scritte per tirar su i soldi della settimana e altre che invece sono spettacolari. Purtroppo prevalgono le prime.
- buoni presagi
ha ragione Nipresa, basta ricordarsi che il buon Dumas percepiva un tanto a riga, per cui (com'è noto) invece di scrivere "X si alzò", scriveva: "X si alzò in piedi dalla sedia sulla quale era seduto". Ciò spiega la paginazione mostruosa di questo e simili romanzi usciti originariamente a puntate.
- Ilaria K
la trilogia di Millennium non ha neanche quell'alibi :D
- PaperDoll
Non ricordo dove leggevo che aveva inserito un personaggio che pronunciava solo battute di una parola, per aumentare il numero di righe con poco sforzo. Fino a che l'editore non decise che le righe si contavano valide solo al di sopra di un certo numero di battute e allora il personaggio a un certo punto scompare allegramente dal libro :-D
- buoni presagi
@nipresa credo ne parlasse Eco in qualche Diario minimo o simili. E' un tema che gli piace riprendere spesso (benché anche lui quanto a romanzi fiume non scherzi; ma appunto, forse è per esorcizzare lo spettro dell'editor con le forbicione in mano).
- Ilaria K
@Adamo il Conte di Montecristo in tomo unico c'è della BUR costo sugli 11-12€
- prezzemolo
forse nel libro di saggi sulla letteratura, dove dice gli piacerebbe provare a curare un'edizione editata di Montecristo
- buoni presagi
Confesso di non essere andata oltre gli estratti scolastici, ma la considero una mia grande mancanza. Per di più moschettieri e le loro ambientazioni mi son sempre piaciuti oltre misura, ma non ho mai tentato la lettura del tomone. Che sia la volta buona, leggendo questo thread? :)
- prezzemolo
Io l'ho letto un bel po' di anni fa e non è male. A volte è un po' lento e quindi tutto il thrilling e l'azione che ci si aspetta sono stemperati però vale la pena di legerlo.
- Michela Cimnaghi /cimny
ah @prezzemolo ho capito quale dici, quella serie blu, diciamo così! sì sono molto tentato soprattutto perché vedo che piace a moltissimi di voi e sinceramente mi fido
- Adamo Lanna
si copertina azzurra monocromatica quasi (credo ci siano delle bollicine d'acqua). L'ha comprato mio fratello l'anno scorso per i compiti delle vacanze :)
- prezzemolo
The Count of Monte Cristo, Excellent & unlike procionogobbo I did not fall asleep :)
- Gabriella Sannino
come tutti i bambini perbene, questa roba me la sono letta prima dell'adolescenza. ^^ (più salgari, verne e scott, però.)
- paolo beneforti
@P(aper)Doll .... ma parliamo di quanti caffé si bevono .... per non dire ti tutti i sandwich con annesse le ricette
- RobbyC
l'ho letto per la prima volta nell'estate dei 13 anni, ora: se un libro di cappa e spada è stato in grado di appassionare così tanto una regazzina in preda alle prime distrazioni ormonali, è bello di sicuro. (forse perché è ben altro che cappa e spada...)
- frine
Per me va inserito senza dubbio nell'ipotetica lista dei 10 libri da salvare.
- Stego
Mi piacerebbe provare, quello stile di letteratura francese mi manca. (Non la trovi scomoda quell'edizione?)
- Sed Non Satiata
Stessa cosa di PDoll :) 'ho letto ed ho letto pure Vent'anni dopo ed il Visconte di Bragelonne. A dirla tutta ho letto anche I Quarantacinque :D E' un feuilleton con tutti i pregi/difetti del caso :D I "Quaantacinque" te li consiglio se ti piace il "cappa e spada" o se hai visto "La Regina Margot" :D
- Annarella G.
"School's right around the corner, goddammit, which means another year of lies, overpriced textbooks and underpaid teachers. While you're sitting in class reading Cracked and pretending to be taking notes on your laptop, why not take a look at what school would be like if books, teachers and administrators were honest?"
- Oğuz Serdar
from Bookmarklet
Anadolu ajansı rss feedlerini takip etmek lazım
- Osman Üngür
Denizin soğuk sularından çıkıp gelecektir yine! Gelmezse gelişme kaydeden sektörlerimizden biri olan film endüstrisi büyük bir ustasını kaybetmiş demektir? Doğruysa üzülürüm :(((
- Cem Şahin
ya gercek olmasin michael jackson dan sonra dayanamam
- denizoktar
oha, birinin eksisozlukte arkadaşımdan duydum olmuş demesini kaynak olarak almıyorsunuz heralde. ona bakılırsa biz ortaokulda lisedeyken hep birileri ölüyordu arkadaşlara göre. düzgün kaynak göstermek lazım. çünkü amy winehouse ölmüş benim arkadaş söyledi.
- D. Eda Goze
eda abla dur belki sene başında mj öldü dediğimizde gerçek diye tv'lerin inandığı gibi bir effect yaratabiliriz.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Haber kaynaklarımdan gelenleri Şahin K. filtresine sokup bulunca gerçek sandım. Meğerse isim benzerliymiş. Böyle isim benzerliğimi olur ya, ödümüz koptu #$!!%%% Haberi okumadım eşleşme var diye, hayvan zehirleyicisi çıktı. http://www.haberciniz.biz/haber...
- Burcu Dogan
@Zekai, bahsettiğimiz kişi Şahin K. kimin ödü kopmadı ki sabaha kadar tetikte ölmediği haberini dumak için beklicez :)
- Hamdi Kavak
ulan sanki ne muhterem adam:D aklıma oflu hocayı getirdi bak:) sonra sorarlar nasıl bilirdiniz? nasıl bilelim hiç görmedik ki:D http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Zekai KIRAN
peff oflu hoca değil ki bu. zekai hocam cehalet içindesin. cinnet.mp3 indir sen bi :) oflu hoca neymiş gör. hatta git bi sezyum eli öp :)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
@Ahmet, bu orijinali.. geyik olan ile ben muhatap olmuyorum..:)
- Zekai KIRAN
Killed yazıyor orada diyorum kimi öldürmüş ki adam. :) Diyorum ilişkiye girdiği hatun falan mı öldü. :)
- Ferhad Fidan
Ferhad, ingilizlerin manşet anlayışı böyle diyelim :)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
"ölmüsümde haberim yok _.q" demis facebook hesabindan.
- weashell
FriendFeed has been almost completely blocked in Iran as far as we can tell. We have a large number of very active Iranian users, and we noticed a steep decline in activity yesterday. Graph below.
این نمودار نشاندهنده افت فرندفید به دلیل بسته شدن آن در ایران است
- Mycaptain
Bret: Is this based on IP numbers located in Iran, or actual activity from those users? If it's IP based, it'd be interesting to see the activity on a user basis and see if they've been able to route around the blocking.
- Ken Sheppardson
If Twitter were blocked and FriendFeed weren't, I'd expect an uptick in FriendFeed activity, not a 92% drop.
- Kevin Fox
I.e. given all the users who've previously accessed the site from an Iran IP number, how many have been active from different numbers in the past 2 days.
- Ken Sheppardson
Instead of "liking" this, shouldn't we have an "unlike" button?
- Steven Melfi
:( Bret: According to Stephen fry, these are the iran proxies: 218.128.112.18:8080 218.206.94.132:808 218.253.65.99:808 219.50.16.70:8080 . Can you track these IPs?
- Roberto Bonini
I knew this day was coming. Too bad.
- Robert Scoble
Steven - same feeling here. I always feel weird "liking" bad stories on FF
- Mike Bracco
How does traffic from China look? Or North Korea?
- τorƍue
like for spread but not like for the situation
- Imprenditore
I wonder what the international community can do about stuff like this. Eventually the "bad guys" will lose.
- Michiel Sikkes
Hopefully, we'll never see a graph like this for Turkey...
- Onur Şentüre
that's because the government has blocked access to friendfeed,twitter,facebook,youtube and ... after election and after protests in Iran cities !
- Farshad
Man... :( That's really a corrupt government. Hope it gets better soon.
- Peter
Kheyzaran mentioned over the weekend that both Twitter and FF were blocked for Iran starting I believe on Friday. He is using a proxy when possible to keep us updated
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Bret, any analysis about how many people unable to access FF directly are still able to access it via proxy?
- Daniel Dulitz
Daniel: Well, we are still getting a bunch of Farsi comments and posts. They may be Persians from outside Iran or from Iranians using proxies. We don't have a detailed analysis breaking those down at this point.
- Bret Taylor
Watching the "guerrilla cyberwarfare" aspect of the elections and reactions has been fascinating. Iran's universities are obviously full of resourceful, passionate geeks.
- John Craft
this is really bad. i hope there's some resolution to this. the people or iran have shown a lot of strength and courage to protest the illegitimacy of recent events. i don't think this will stop things
- Cee Bee
Is it possible that the same folks from Iran that are active on Friendfeed are the ones out protesting?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
please help us , we are under attack ,change friendfeed logo if you can
- فرزاد
make a room for us, invite your friends we will fill it with latest news
- Farshad
I'm completely for having a fair vote, but I'm not sure that I'd want to try and align FriendFeed with a particular candidate, which is what a green logo would imply.
- Kevin Fox
Many iranians using proxies to access FF. and therefore their IPs changes to fake IP .
- آدمیرال
MohammadReza: Maryam's mom is still able to call her relatives and friends in Tehran, so they are keeping some voice traffic open, if not all.
- Robert Scoble
@Kevin, totally understandable.
- EricaJoy
from IM
If Iran thinks they have nothing to fear, then why block Friendfeed?
- Frode Stenstrøm
Frode: because the government is like China: they believe that by retarding the flow of information they will reduce the threat of protests and governmental overthrow.
- Robert Scoble
Very reminiscent of the prelude to the fall of the Shah
- Alan Morris
I don't speak Persian, so I don't know all the searches, but there are still (luckily) a lot of Persian users posting: http://friendfeed.com/search.... If you are Persian and looking for updates, try our search engine to find the few users who still have access.
- Bret Taylor
Frode: and in Iran's case, they are run by conservative religious authorities and they don't like the fact that they are not in control of information flow like they used to be. They like to think they can still control information sources and, since they can't, they try to block places where their citizens can go to share information.
- Robert Scoble
is it a joke? iranian users seems the %90 of friend feed. it could not be real!
- Fırat DEMİREL
Firat: There are no units on the vertical axis of the chart.
- Ken Sheppardson
Firat: This is a chart of traffic from Iran, not of FF's total traffic.
- Kevin Fox
Firat, i doubt that this graph is a percentage graph... probably more likely that it's measuring hits, sessions, or total data transfered (mb, kb, etc)
- Chris Heath
Kevin: what impact did this have on FF's overall traffic?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Iran is the #6 country for FriendFeed in terms of page views per day.
- Bret Taylor
Thanks all for answers. i told that it could not be real.. :) excuse me, i ve just read Bret's notice and looked at breaking point. i saw what i've missed before.. bad news for ff and iran.. :(
- Fırat DEMİREL
These statistics are incredible, especially the normally heavy useage of FF in Iran.
- Curt Mercadante
Bret Taylor, we can tag our pix and vids about iran election by an english keyword such as 'iran' or 'iranelection'. I think it will help to ff non-persian users to find out more about unrests in iran.
- آدمیرال
Iran restored cell phone service Sunday that had been down in the capital since Saturday. But Iranians still could not send text messages from their mobile phones, and the government increased its Internet filtering in an apparent attempt to undercut opposition voices. Social networking sites including Facebook and Twitter were also not working.
- Üstün Üzüm
martin: those words are not mine actually from a news article from washinton post.
- Üstün Üzüm
On twitter people are retweeting the IPs and ports of unblocked proxies, can we do something like that here?
- Canageek
martin, i'm from iran. twitter is blocked. what evidence you wanna? screenshot!?
- آدمیرال
yes Canageek. we use proxies for tweeting
- آدمیرال
Authorities blocking the internet are just reinforcing solidarity between people, can't they understand ?
- Stanislas Jourdan
Stanislas: not to mention they encourage their smartest and richest people to leave (the ones who have technical skills). There's a reason why Silicon Valley has 10,000 or more Iranians living here. Their government sucks and the people are getting tired of it. Of course if their government was great I would never have met my wife (who grew up in Tehran). So, there is good to come out of a crappy government! :-)
- Robert Scoble
it has always seemed to me that the iranian user base is ENORMOUS here. wow. unbelievable.
- edythe
It is interesting how much civil unrest that is brewing across the globe towards their governments. The knee jerk reactions in attempting to block certain websites shows how much they didn't expect the net to become such a widespread conduit for cutting through the bs and informing those that wish to know. I wish those who take a stand all the best.
- alphaxion
Another way for those that are in Iran is to access through Netvibes (but I don't know if it works or if it's blocked too), adding Friendfeed, Gmail and so on such as modules
- Roberto
Thanks for sharing this, Bret. It's valuable evidence of what's going on, evidence which wouldn't have been available even a few years ago.
- Michael Nielsen
Very interesting...so much for democracy and voting rights in Iran...
- freedom fighter mom
If anybody in Iran feels up to it, can you temporarily disable your proxy and run a traceroute to friendfeed.com and twitter.com then post the results here?
- EricaJoy
Bret and Paul, can you let us know if the traffic comes back, which would tell us they've unblocked FriendFeed?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: absolutely, we will let everyone know when it comes back up
- Bret Taylor
from email
Steven: You Like that it was posted, not the content of the post.
- Tanath
Bret, thanks for sharing the info about the dive. Shame, but what could we have expected from the Iranian status quo?
- Jon Osterholm
البته یه چیز هم هست اونکه بعد از فیلترینگ همه با آی پی غیر ایرانی می ان فرندفید و برای همنی آمارشون اینجا ثبت نمیشه ... وگرنه فکر نمی کنم از لحاظ تعداد نفراتی که میومدن کم شده باشه ... بلکه هم بیشتر
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
Yes, it happend and we have to use proxy to access friendfeed. Look at democracy in Iran...
- Zahra (raoros)
The coversations and comments here are educational.
- Seek Ground
Good luck to all of you trying to get around the censorship. I hope the big sites are doing what they can to help out.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Looking at the potential of this event in the future for numerous causes is mind-boggling. Really amazing.
- Charlie Anzman
Come to think of it, does FF have a presence in China? I'd imagine it's blocked there. I've seen Chinese on here, but never sure if that's from China or speakers outside.
- anna sauce
Yes, Friendfeed is blocked in Iran. Right now the papers and TV channels here are controlled by the government and our access to satellite channels is blocked too. Friendfeed and Twitter are quite vital for us now. Our main source of exchanging information and news is Friendfeed. Via Friendfeed we let everyone know that where people need help and where to go and how to help them and...
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- Selma
Nope, they have blocked all https addresses, we have had to sign in to Friendfeed via anti-filters for the past few months.
- Selma
its a shame. it was one the main media we used to inform ppl. thats why they filtered it. now many users cant sign in
- Myri∂m
Can't we "help" in some way? Providing proxies, I don't know, the kind of stuff pirates do. Pirates, and people trying to make a Revolution happen....
- Zackatoustra
It may not be long before Turkey joins the party.
- Sarp Tüzün
I just spoke with my friend Andres, the main BBC correspondent for the Middle East/Afghanistan, and he mentioned the web is being fire walled in Iran much the same as the the "Great Firewall" during last year's Olympics in China.
- sofarsoShawn
The Iranian websites that people used to exchange information about the election protests in Iran are under cyber-attacks by the government forces and from anonymous sources. Many of them are down right now. These Iranian websites were our few last remaining channels to inform people. What can we do about that? Is there anyone out there who can help us with this?
- emin
i was 53rd active user in friendfeed until this filtering. now i can open FF with proxies and if i can fine. a Vpn but many Vpn here come from companies that have relations with security services, i thunk they allow us to bypass filternig and then, they will arrest who has wrote against their goals
- خیزران kheyzaran
Can't we transfer the data/databases of the sites you, iranian guys, use to any new domain we could buy? I want to help. Not by throwing rocks to "security service" forces, but, at least, by making possible for what YOU have to say to go public, worldwide.
- Zackatoustra
FF is a useful website for Iranian People to get reliable information about demonstration against presidential election.
- پارسـا
so so sorry for iran people... I hope they will win...
- Tanaydin Sirin
and Now Yahoo messenger and google talk blocked in iran :((((
- پارسـا
Selma: 1- I don't use a proxy but clearing all but one (deleting them all logs me out) instance of each friendfeed.com cookie name and refreshing the page always solves this for me in Firefox. Has never happened on Lunascape or IE. Good luck.
- Alexandros Georgiadis
google block fftogo for iranian users!!!
- ★amin.m★
The reason I ask is because if you can email a post, then try sending it to share@friendfeed and also to YourUserName@friendfeed. Then when someone comments you'll receive an email about it and you can comment back to the thread via email as well.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Alexandros Georgiadis:for frienddeck.com I see this:You are accessing this page from a forbidden country! but dev.ctor.org/f2p worked! thank you :)
- ★amin.m★
from MojiPage
+ don't use your ISP's DNS server, verify your Firewall, search for rootkits.. + If you really wanna use Tor, be 'mobile', check the onion's status, don't be too confident, continue to use encrypted protocols & 'mobile' ports. At least, read Tor's docs and articles about Tor & privacy/security..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
now chat like gmail or yahoo messenger are blocked too
- egza
for me,yahoo messenger is not blocked yet!
- ★amin.m★
from f2p
Alexandros: Frienddeck could work for certain parts - posts and queries against user accounts are proxied through the App Engine, searches are direct against Friendfeed so they could probably not work.
- Paul Kinlan
We wish the people of Iran well in these difficult times
- Marc
Not good at all. Best wishes to the Iranian FFers. I hope this whole mess gets cleared up quickly and with as little violence as possible
- Kamilah Gill
definitely DON'T LIKE this... >_< ...would love to be able do more than retweeting proxies
- Daniele
Best regards from Chile to all iranian people, we know a lot about bad government and human rights. Good luck, strength and courage to all of you.
- Roberto Arancibia
It's to bad there is such attempts to block free flow of information, how long will it be before there is more amazing differences happening? Such limits, hmm.
- Ray Marr aka Knatchwa
They have to keep the militants in check. Thank goodness for the pipes that were broken.
- tony
Interesting censorship- same can happen in America - I would like to talk to you abt Friendfeed and bringing over some large groups do you have time?
- JanSimpson
I've seen those censorship about FriendFeed (Iran). Do you know some interesting and objective blogposts about it?
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
And China now has a similar blockage. You should also check on it.
- Kenyth
Sometimes we forget how easy we have it than other countries. But until people revolt & I mean a HUGE revolution injustices will still go on.
- Gabriella Sannino
che jaleb , oonvaght por comment dartarin feed kodoome? bebinim mishe feed 2khtare mardom e farzad davan davan ro be oon beresoonim?
- HΛMΣD ƧΛFΛ
from IM