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I just spoke with FriendFeed cofounder Paul Buchheit. Did you know that he promised family that FriendFeed would continue? More:
He told me they messed up by not communicating better last week. The deal happened so fast that they didn't pay attention to everything. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I like how this is starting - Robert DeBord
o0o0o0 - Mark
Promises ? - johnpiercy
as its own service? - Lee
you are the one who keeps proclaiming its death - Mark
That's what Compaq said when they purchased DEC. (for those of you old enough to remember) - RobinDotNet
A promise is not a guarantee. - Amit Morson
Such a tease, Robert. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
More smoke-blowing. I don't care of Paul swore on the graves of his ancestors. Actions speak louder than words. Some vague promise to a group of people I'm excluded from doesn't do much to assuage my unease. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, you're right, but it's not smoke. - Louis Gray
Okay, Louis, true. I retract that first sentence. The rest of it, however, I'm sticking by. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: well I feel a lot better about things today. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Continue just as it is? Or with key changes? - Karma Martell
I would expect them to post more on this topic soon - on their personal blogs. - Louis Gray
If that's what Paul wants to promise us, he needs to release some kind of official statement, not send a message through Robert. - Rochelle
Soon. - Louis Gray
I bet you as part of the contract, its in there not to shut this down - Stephen Pickering
Rochelle: there are too many unknowns to make a definitive statement yet. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
keeping my hopes up. but i do remember working at a few radio stations that were bought, we'd get a memo saying 'the format is not going to change' about three weeks before we switched to spanish. i think there is just too much here for ff to vanish. keep the dream alive! - michael sean wright
How can he when it`s lost all of its autonomy? Supplanted by Facebook, bought outright no? - sofarsoShawn
It couldve been part of the deal not to let the site die - Stephen Pickering
Robert, like you said, one can hope. However both of us know how corporates work and it takes one small decision from share holders to close down the service, no matter what. - Nir Ben Yona
They want to get to Facebook and get those unknowns nailed down first. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Holden and Rochelle, etc., let's be patient. If you see the post I put up last night and add Robert's comments here, we should be feeling a lot better today than we did on Monday. - Louis Gray
Robert, all right. Well, after my initial freak-out over this, I've gone into complete wait-and-see mode. More of these vague promises and 'coming soon' messages don't really do much for me. When someone say something definitive, then I'll be there to consume it. The rest of this just doesn't add up for much. - Akiva Moskovitz
That was a great post Louis - Stephen Pickering
Thanks, Stephen. I thought it was important. - Louis Gray
Akiva, exactly, waiting for official word. - Kol Tregaskes
Nir: the way it was told to me contractually it can't be closed down anytime soon. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I hope they don't change it so you have to have a Facebook account to use it. I have one, but share it with very few; I use Twitter and FF for everyone. I want to be able to use it the way I do now. - RobinDotNet
Like any takeover/merger, some details just take time to work out. Hopefully FF can stay around in some form and help make FB better. We'll just have to wait and see. Thanks, Robert, for the info. - Mark Edwards
I agree, we haven`t seen anything substantive in the way of contract etc but fingers crossed. - sofarsoShawn
But doesn't mean it won't be shutdown at some point? - Kol Tregaskes
And, Louis, I didn't see your post from last night but I'll read it as soon as I get back from the store. - Akiva Moskovitz
was Pownce a bit like Friendfeed? I never used it - Mark
I can't get my hopes up when Facebook is in the picture. :-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I am very happy to hear that! I hope it gets bigger than Twitter. It's a much better service. - Sam Guzman
Stable Door and Horse comes to mind. - Kevin J Hatton
The fact that the FF folks haven't yet said "This is how we want it, so this is how it's going to be" is just evidence that they don't have the final say on the matter. If it's subject to some additional authority/approval, nothing is certain at this point. - Ken Sheppardson
Kol: it won't be shut down anytime soon. He was quite clear about that. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Kol, the truth is they work for Facebook now, and therefore, FriendFeed can/will change, and it may not change 100% how you and I want. It may be part of Facebook's site later, and it may not. But Facebook is changing from what we know of it now to something new where they overlap. - Louis Gray
In other words that was in the contract. Makes sense, since they were hesitant anyway - Stephen Pickering
Robert, OK but maybe at some point though. - Kol Tregaskes
I sure would like it if FF continued indefinitely. - Jason Nunnelley
Kol: nothing in life is guaranteed. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Patience is a good thing. That said, if FriendFeed wasn't growing at a rate much higher than it has been, something would have to change. You don't bottle up such talent and experience and have it work on a product that was losing. - Louis Gray
Robert, What about death and taxes? - RobinDotNet
Good to hear. I am sure they will take time to decide what exactly to do with FF. How to integrate them together. What to do etc. FF the R&D for FB I think it could be - Robert Anderson
Robert, true. All a bit vague still though. - Kol Tregaskes
Scoble: encourage Facebook to keep FriendFeed as a premium brand. Let them tie it to Facebook data or whatever, but keep the system separate. - Gary
Louis, right, this gives them legitimacy and exposure - Stephen Pickering
Kol... if they wanted to grow they way they "deserved" to grow, this place would have changed underneath your feet to something you might hate. This is one way to put real capital and people behind the site as it is now. - Louis Gray
So what? Do they continue try to grow friendfeed as an individual product? Or do they just leave it alive for those of us who actually use it? - Sam Guzman
If this thing grows by leaps and bounds, FB is not going to close it - Stephen Pickering
Mark: anytime a blogger says something is dead ALL that means is that it is less interesting than yesterday. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Over time, we will learn, Sam. It's a classical marketing/engineering decision. Do you build for the current user base, or the potential user base? With change. some were bound to leave anyway. - Louis Gray
Louis, not arguing that at all. My point was about shutting it down or not. I'm at the wait-and-see stage, waiting for more news from FF. - Kol Tregaskes
And any time I write a headline that says it's NOT dead... maybe I know what I'm talking about. :) - Louis Gray
But this service grows more useful the more users there are - Stephen Pickering
Something needs to happen. Twitter is useless now - maybe a new denial of service attack. I would love to see the Friendfeed technology spread to the mass user base that Facebook has. - Frode Stenstrøm
Yeah, I understand. Maybe some of the extra publicity from the acquisition will lead to an increase in users...curious people signing up to see what it's all about. - Sam Guzman
Well, at least he acknowledged they messed up. - Rodfather
oh sweet, I just spent ages adding friendfeed people, setting up privacy and setting up FF to stream to my FB....now this might be a waste of time? - Franz Sittampalam from IM
Frode: that was what Paul told me too. He wants the tech here to be used by everyone. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
I don't understand why Google didn't buy it instead. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rod, FriendFeed has no PR or Marketing. Maybe if they did, this would have been handled differently. Some things come naturally, and others are hard. But I bet you will see a lot more soon. - Louis Gray
I've heard the same from another founder, Robert. - Anne Bouey
Franz, no official word, just wait for an announcement from FF. - Kol Tregaskes
They didn't want to work for google again. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Makes you wonder about a due diligence ckecklist and the speed of getting this deal done - courtney benson
Kinda why they left. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Right, look at Google Reader. They don't know how to do social - Stephen Pickering
It's all wonky and hard to understand - Stephen Pickering
But GR is going in that direction. - Kol Tregaskes
Companies come and companies go. They can go by closing their doors or by being acquired. Only time will tell whether FriendFeed has come and gone. - Jeff Sayre
Google Reader is nothing like FF. No one really uses the social features. - Sam Guzman
GR is trying, but its all wonky and totally un understandable - Stephen Pickering
Oh. I just don't trust Facebook at all and can barely stand using it after being here. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer, I think we have to look beyond the caricatures of people like Zuckerberg, and recognize that he too may want the same things we do. Facebook is growing up and I bet FriendFeed and its team is a big part of that. - Louis Gray
Louis, hope so. - Kol Tregaskes
courtney: Paul talked about that too. He said once the team made the decision they knew it had to be closed overnight to prevent it from leaking. - Robert Scoble
Louis I think its a perfect marriage, genius engineers + genius Marketers - Stephen Pickering
Real real time would be awesome in Facebook. I really hope it comes soon. - Sam Guzman
Well, he didn't quite say "prevent it from leaking" but he said "it's important to do it all at once." I knew what he meant, though, that it had to be done fast to keep things from getting crazy, like they do once decisions like this get taken into public sphere. - Robert Scoble
I am sure paul is truthful in that he would like for it to go that way, but this is a M&A situation, and even if it is written into the agreement, there are a million ways around it. At the end of the day, shareholders make the rules in a majority vote. If ff isn't integrated in fb somehow, I fail to see how it benefits fb. - Erik Boles from iPhone
Kol: Paul was emphatic that Facebook is a far more interesting company at this time in both company's history. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Somehow this doesn't sound too convincing. If Friendfeed has been losing a LOT of regular users because of their deal with Facebook, they'd be concerned. Friendfeed is likely to get you to speak on their behalf, since you are their most popular user. Maybe Paul is trying to convince you, so that he can indirectly convince others too. That might save an early end to Friendfeed brought on by the rapid loss of users. - K N Ajit Narayan
I totally agree with Paul, by the way. Facebook is a much more interesting company to join right now than Google is. - Robert Scoble
Facebook = Microsoft 2.0 - scott anderson
Robert: Did he mention anything about Mashable reporting an acquisition had been talked about since `07? - sofarsoShawn
YAY! thanks Scoble for letting us know - i feel alot better today! - Chris Clayton
Hey, Microsoft had a decent run - Stephen Pickering
Louis: yeah, Zuckerberg is a lot smarter and a lot more down to earth than most of the press gives him credit for. He's always been straight up with me. Much better than other companies have treated me. - Robert Scoble
And that's even including getting kicked off of Facebook for 24 hours. - Robert Scoble
@ Scott, LOL Facebook = Microsoft 2.0! I see your point, but it far surpasses Microsoft Live attempt at a social network. - Nakeva Corothers
Erik: technologies that have great audiences don't get killed. If anything will kill it, it will be us. By leaving. - Robert Scoble
Robert, cool. Well if they can ditch a lot of their annoying features, like this FB Lite might be, then I might be interested in moving over with all the FF features implemented but I just can't work with FB in it's currently state. I had another go this weekend and still didn't like it. But I'd be even happier if FF stayed here. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
this is gonna be an interesting story to follow for sure. For now I am just using friendfeed the way I have been and see what comes out down the road. life is about changes. - (jeff)isageek
sofarsoShawn: I don't know what you're talking about regarding Mashable. - Robert Scoble
Maybe I missed it earlier in this thread but why can't they just come out and say something directly to the community? Obviously a lot of people are concerned and anxious about it... Why do we have to hear second-hand? And why has it all been so vague? No news is not necessarily good news in cases like this. - Fa La La La Lindsay
Robert, Leo called himself Leo Scoble today because he deleted his 5000 FB friends and moved them over to his fan page - Stephen Pickering
jeff: yeah. Visiting Facebook is going to get more interesting. He also said that the first month at Facebook (which starts Monday) will be all about learning about Facebook's code. So, no new features will come quickly. - Robert Scoble
Ok. I hope Facebook changes a LOT so it's more tolerable. Although I don't like it, I need to set up a good Facebook page for business so I can remain competitive. - Jannifer @wordsforliving
I hope they do right by you. You brought them to the party. I hope that gets recognized somehow monetarily. - Jim Posner
Saying that it might be shut down at some point doesn't tell us anything new, though; after all, any site might be shut down at some point due to going out of business etc. - Tristan Seligmann
When anything comes out of this it was always going to be long term. - Kol Tregaskes
Can i just add - Paul never said friendfeed was going to die in the first place... instead they said the complete opposite - "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." - Chris Clayton
I'm not sure why everyone dislikes Facebook. What's wrong with it? - Sam Guzman
sofarsoShawn, yes, Facebook had been talking to FriendFeed since 2007. - Louis Gray
Lindsay, I bet the FriendFeed team has a very busy week and maybe you hear from them on all this soon. - Louis Gray
Robert: "technologies that have great audiences don't get killed..." oh, come on, you know better than that! My dad worked at IBM so I've been seeing tech companies kill great stuff that their customers liked for most of my life!!!! - Fred Davis
Jim, Scoble has gotten no money from FriendFeed (nor have I). Neither one of us expects to, as that would change the relationship. - Louis Gray
He said FF would continue operating normally "for now". That was what freaked people out. But I'm glad to hear that Paul and company have plans to keep the service running for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't want to wake up one morning and find my favorite service was shut down. - Jason Huebel
Fred, right, the Innovators Dilemma, but in this case its cost of running a website is halving every year - Stephen Pickering
Louis: yes, but Paul told me that when I last was in the office they hadn't yet decided to go to Facebook. Everything happened in the past two weeks. I think you even walked in on one of their key decision points. He said they worked all weekend long on the agreement. - Robert Scoble
Fred: nothing in life is guaranteed, yeah, you're right. But there's no business reason to turn this off anytime soon. If we all leave there will be. - Robert Scoble
Robert: e.g., consumer company changes focus to biz or gets acquired... new company direction leads to consumer products getting killed despite popularity... that's just one of many ways that good tech gets killed all the time!!! - Fred Davis
No disagreement on that at all, Robert. I know I walked in on something big, and that was my mistake for not calling ahead. - Louis Gray
Seems their valuation stood on Roberts shoulders to some degree. At the least, a public thanks would have been nice. - Jim Posner
Jason: i know, thats what got me freaked out too - i just thought i would add it in incase anyone missed it :) and because im a little bored! lol - Chris Clayton
If FF were Twitter, we'd be screaming bloody blue murder about how they don't "get" user communication, etc., etc. - Chris Baskind
Fred, can you give any examples? Any software I used to use that is no longer available was replaced with something better. - RobinDotNet
No business reason that WE understand... 'cuz we don;t go to Facebook board meetings ;-) Facebook may have their own agenda... in fact, I assume they do... - Fred Davis
Jim: I do this because I love it, not because I expect thanks or goodies. - Robert Scoble
Why even bring this up if they can't talk about it? Nothing has changed just more innuendo and smoke and mirrors and a lot of 'what ifs'. Wake me when there's something concrete. - Derrick
Robert: when you talk to paul next, can you push him into doing a public announcement on it all? Just give him a nudge in the right direction! :) - Chris Clayton
RobinDotNet... god, too many to count! First one I was bummed about was in '85 when Musicworks was the best MIDI program on the Mac... got acquired by some jerky game company that decided it wasn't a game and stranded all the users! Yeah, eventually new better stuff came along... but that didn't do the users of the current any good at that time... - Fred Davis
Derrick: sorry, I totally disagree. I didn't know that contractually they can't kill the service anytime soon. - Robert Scoble
Derrick, there is more than smoke. - Louis Gray
It makes sense, they had leverage to make that deal - Stephen Pickering
Fred -- Okay, so that was one that was 24 years ago. Have any more recent examples? If you can't think of any, then they obviously weren't that important. - RobinDotNet
Because they were hesitant, they had the leverage to make that part of the deal. Makes total sense - Stephen Pickering
Um, apple buys leading music sequencing package and kills of PC version because, um, they want to force you to use a mac... come on, the list is endless!!! Companies screw customers by killing good products for their own reasons all the time.... - Fred Davis
Sorry, things are moving fast in this thread. There's a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running? - Jason Huebel
Fred, you keep saying the list is endless, but the only one you can name is one that came out about 2 years after the 1st Mac, 24 years ago. I'm just saying.... - RobinDotNet
Fred, but what if part of the deal was not to kill it? - Stephen Pickering
This whole "Friendfeed is dead" mantra is, has, and always will be nothing more than an attempt to get attention. Friendfeed is successful and Facebook would never do anything to destroy that. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
Derrick: believe me, Louis and I have been talking and concerned about the messaging coming out of this deal more than anyone. We both invested a lot of our time/careers here. Louis has been talking with the team too and that's where his post came from yesterday. I suggest you read it and read between the lines too. - Robert Scoble
Understand Robert, Really not about your motivation, just good manners in my opinion for Friendfeed to thank you publically. Maybe they have and I missed it. I think you did more for promoting the service than the founders. - Jim Posner
now, what facebook decides to do with friendfeed... who knows... Yahoo kept Flickr going... so far... but that seems like the exception... no one's really using jabber any more, but it lives on in the upcoming Wave and as XMPP at Google... - Fred Davis
agreed scoble promoted the service in a big way - Franz Sittampalam from IM
Jim: thanks, appreciate it. Paul did thank me in the interview I did with him right after the announcement was made. - Robert Scoble
If there is a contractual obligation on FB's part to keep FF running, the obvious question is what does this contract state and does it give a duration. Hopefully we'll hear more later. - Kol Tregaskes
Why? What would be the point? I respect you two enough and all that you do in the world of social media and that's fine. I want a place I can converse, post my pictures, air my gripes, and continue to establish the friends I've made via Friendfeed. Will I be able to do that or not? I'm so tired of the conjecture. Some of us, are just people who love the service and more than anything, very simply, we just want to be able to utilize it. - Derrick
Kol: I call it the "Paul is sleeping on the couch for a month" clause. ;-) - Robert Scoble
LOL, Robert. - Kol Tregaskes
For a company like Facebook, I would imagine that the consolidation of branding advantage would lead me to suspect that even if Friendfeed is kept going in some way, it will be re-branded as Facebook... just like Longs, Wamu, and Wells Fargo are going through right in Facebook's backyard. - Fred Davis
Derrick, this is the place to do that. :) - Louis Gray
"For now". ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Throws sheep at Kol - Louis Gray
Hehe, Louis. - Kol Tregaskes
The other main issue I have is that, now we are creating content for Facebook. Facebook owns our data. For some reason I didn't mind Paul and his team, they were blacksheep. If I wanted to make Facebook richer I would type in Facebook in the URL. I dont want to make Facebook richer. - Robert Higgins
What are the alternatives to FF? Isn't there Streamy, Plurk, SocialThing? - Eric
Louis, I'll be counting sheep soon, need sleep. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Eric, we've been evaluating alternatives in the CloneFeed/OpenFF room. None of them really come anywhere close to what FF offers. - Jason Huebel
Eric, none of those services are really similar. SocialThing is closest, but FF is still quite a bit different. - Sam Guzman
Of course, since I'm hoping Grabbit will replace Friendfeed for most people, I'm more than a little biased, and that makes me care a lot less about what happens to Friendfeed... even though I love the service, and hope Facebook keeps it going. We're already planning to support Friendfeed in Grabbit, and the new Friendfeed API is awesome, so who knows what the extent of the disruption... more... - Fred Davis
Sam, I know there is something. I am upset, because I wanted to buy FF someday! :) - Eric
So the word now is that FF will be around for a while AND Paul's mentioned the possibility that parts of FF might be open sourced. Any idea what parts? - Jason Huebel
There has to be an alternative. - Eric
Jason: too early to know that for sure. I'd start with the API. From what my friends are telling me who are good developers the API is actually very well thought out. - Robert Scoble
Eric: Not really. Make one. - Sam Guzman
There was an alternative, but I think it shut down. - Eric
There is no need to replace FriendFeed. That there are options to decentralize our info is great, but I'm not going anywhere. - Louis Gray
It was called SocialThing. - Eric
Fred: I just don't like Facebook's service for WHAT I DO. For my wife? It's freaking awesome. And the execs there have always treated me very well (Zuckerberg walked around Davos with me, while every other journalist was drooling over the opportunity to do that -- he's a lot nicer and smarter than most people give him credit for). - Robert Scoble
SocialThing got bought by AOL, and it wasn't as good as FF anyway. You could see people's activity, but there was no real interaction. FF is what it is because of the interaction. - Sam Guzman
Eric & Jason: my new web thingie Grabbit, will do everything Friendfeed does and more, so much more... it's still in alpha, and the beta won't be out until next month... but already the alpha features better Facebook and integration than Friendfeed, IMHO... so, check out grabbit.net and ask to be on the beta list, and we'll keep you posted... - Fred Davis
@Louis, I'm not going anywhere either. But this acquisition not only scared people that FF might go away but also that their data would go with it. So there is /some/ need for alternatives. - Jason Huebel
It was called Rejaw, and it was shut down. - Eric
Fred: can't wait to see more about Grabbit. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Hey dude, I TOTALLY agree with you about Facebook! I've been telling people for a while that I think Facebook is in the process of Yahoo-ing themselves... and that ain't no compliment! - Fred Davis
FriendFeed family or real family? - Mona Nomura
FF is crazy to sell. They should've sold to Google, what were they thinking? - Eric
I think someone needs to create a web dashboard like FF, but that somehow integrates e-mail. - Sam Guzman
louis i agree with you. i am not going anywhere either. this is the place i love and think is awesome - (jeff)isageek
Robert, is Paul referencing his FriendFeed family or real family? (not expanding thread - too long) - Mona Nomura
Mona: real family AND FriendFeed family. They are one and the same if you look at it the right way. - Robert Scoble
Sam: what do you mean "intergrate email" friendfeed already has email features so it depends on what you mean... - Chris Clayton
Same here, Jeff. If FF is still around I'm not budging. It it goes FB on us then it's bye-bye. - Kol Tregaskes
Google Wave is like FF? - Eric
Sam, got that in Grabbit... email, RSS, blog alerts, news alerts, and more... plus the coolest friend management stuff to help you sort all that out, not just the messages, updates, and alerts... - Fred Davis
Mona: if you want me to do something for you, talk Maryam into it first. :-) - Robert Scoble
Fred: Then I am really excited to try it. - Sam Guzman
Eric: just like the others you mentioned, it has 1 or 2 similar features, but completely different! - Chris Clayton
and twitter, facebook, friendfeed, etc., of course... we're starting a signup on grabbit.net... - Fred Davis
I used to use FeedEachOther which was like FF. - Eric
Chris: Like the friendfeed stream, you could login and see all your friend's activity, but also see your latest e-mails (Could be easily accessed with a sidebar link, like direct messages). By commenting on an e-mail, you could reply. Just like FF direct messages, but it would send a real e-mail response. Does that make sense? - Sam Guzman
Now there is Google Reader. - Eric
Google reader is improving, but still has a long way to go. On the social side. - Bluesun 2600
That's the one thing I've always liked about FriendFeed - the founders (and staff) interacts with the community, as do their family members. The community members were treated like family, too. :) Whatever which way, hopefully Facebook will integrate FriendFeed's functions to carry on the "feel" over there as well. Personally, I have the more the merrier approach! BTW see you Thursday, Robert! Gnomedex sold out! - Mona Nomura
I'm not up to speed with this discussion, but FB must have bought FF to merge FF tech into FB. FF for everybody, not just Scoble and tech friends. - Zato Gibson
...would continue as independant application or as zombie inside "failbook"? ;-/ - Claude LaFrenière
Sam: i was actually looking for a way to have the subjects of my emails show up on my friendfeed dashboard awhile ago - do you mean like that? Because that would be awesome! - Chris Clayton
i would love to see friendfeed get a killer mobile app...maybe improve on fftogo a little more - (jeff)isageek
Google Reader is my current alternative btw. I've found the share box today and now using it like FF's share box. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Google Reader is great, but it's not built to replace FriendFeed. It's not an aggregator, for one. - Louis Gray
one thing is I don't think you can share images from pages as easily as FF's share. - Bluesun 2600
Life2front has anyone heard of it? - Eric
Chris: Yes, maybe have a subject show up in your feed, and clicking would expand to reveal the full e-mail. Reply's could be generated by commenting on the e-mail. I'm sure FF won't integrate this, but I'm just throwing it out there. It's something I wish some social service would integrate. Either that, or make e-mail inboxes more social. Kind of like Yahoo e-mails new features, but better executed. How cool would it be to login to your e-mail and be greeted by a FF like social stream. - Sam Guzman
i think you can look at two services that were bought up and never really changed all this time in flickr and delicous so hey maybe friendfeed stays around as it is...maybe just integrates a bit more or something with facebook - (jeff)isageek
Well you can put your services into a folder then create a bundle and share it. But no not quite like FF. It lacks a lot of features and Comments view is awful. - Kol Tregaskes
and look how long google had grand central before they really even started doing anything with it. - (jeff)isageek
I guess what I'm saying is, don't keep e-mail so separate from the rest of your online social activity. It should be more integrated than it is now, in my opinion. Why not include it in a service like FF? - Sam Guzman
So Friendfeed stays on as a side project instead of being abandoned. Does that really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? The service isn't going to grow by leaps and bounds either in audience or functionality now. I guess a slow death is easier for people to deal with than a quick one. - Dare Obasanjo
Sam: i love that idea... email services dont have RSS (not that i can find anyway) i was looking for 5 hours for one afew months ago so i could put it in a private group to show up on my FF stream. but i ended up being dissapointed! - Chris Clayton
I hope we all converge over to Google Wave and that some clever sod codes a FF-type service built on the Wave protocol. :-) GWave is great fun to use! - Kol Tregaskes
Kol: are you going to send me a download link? :P im still waiting for it from the 'sneak peek' survey i filled out AGES ago! - Chris Clayton
Whhhhhhat how`d you try it already? - sofarsoShawn
Dare: there are lots of things that don't get many new features but are still very popular. FriendFeed still has way more features and is better technology than anything else I've seen in the marketplace. Maybe someone will eclipse it, but that won't happen soon and, yes, a slow death is definitely better than a quick one. Why? Cause you can make plans and change your behavior. - Robert Scoble
Download link for GWave? Don't work like that. ;-) Just wait until 30th September, Chris. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Chris, yeah, and I think what I'm describing would take more than just RSS integration. But Kol is right, maybe Google Wave will be the answer :) I can't wait to try it! Especially if other services can be integrated like in FF. - Sam Guzman
Kol: but september is too long to wait :( blame scoble for making me a social media addict! :) - Chris Clayton
Hehe, it will fly by. - Kol Tregaskes
Robert: if this is just about whether they'll shut off the servers or not then why is this even causing hubbub? Given the complaining of a vocal set of users I'm sure that even if they planned to shut off the site, it'll keep going for a while. However it seems obvious that all their innovative ideas and day time hacking should be filled with innovating on Facebook not here. - Dare Obasanjo
As both Louis and I have said - these guys have been nothing but actions thus far and haven't let us down. I see nothing changing from that yet, so I suggest everyone continue that trust. They have done nothing to break that trust yet. And like I wrote about, Facebook needs them as much as they need Facebook - Facebook wants to change into something more of what FriendFeed is, from what I've seen and read. - Jesse Stay
It's not about shutting the servers off for some (most?) folks, it's a matter of how you reconcile FriendFeed and Facebook's views on content licensing, ownership, and privacy; whether we'll continue to see innovation at a pace faster than what Facebook's user base has historically been comfortable with; and whether we'll see a continuation of Friendfeed's openness towards third party developers and the open source community. - Ken Sheppardson
And as I've said over and over again, Jesse, I think most of us trust the FriendFeed folks as individuals, but that trust doesn't necessarily transfer to Facebook as an institution. - Ken Sheppardson
I second Ken. Zuckerbergs plans/dreams are also a kind of wild-card here. They could be favorable to us FriendFeed users, or not. Up till now, Zuckerberg hasn't done much favorable for me. That sucks. I wish it were different. - Meryn Stol
Say what you want about Facebook but Zuckerberg and/or Facebook has revolutionized the Internet by forcing people to be real. (not real-time) It even reflects on Youtube - the commenters aren't as moronic as they were say three years ago, since more and more people are using their real names and identities. - Mona Nomura
It's always like this and it never turns out the way Paul says it will, though I believe his intentions are honorable. At some point you no longer work for the old company and you start working for the new one. My guess is this has already happened. Soon people from the old team will have their new assignments, and then one day the server will go down. They'll bring it back up, but... more... - Dave Winer
Damn, Dave. And I thought that *I* was a cynic. - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I've been through it myself, and been in Paul's position. - Dave Winer
Dave, I don't doubt that at all. It's just amazing from my perspective to see it put so honestly. Well put, sir. - Akiva Moskovitz
Only when I was in Paul's position, I had a simpler situation cause we were developing shrinkwrap software and our mission was supposedly unchanged. We didn't have servers that had to be kept up 24-by-7. Even so, six months after the merger, the whole thing was turned upside down and the team had all-new priorities and tons of people had left, including the top guy (me!). I would get... more... - Dave Winer
Well put, Mona! - Jesse Stay
Dave, I expect it to change, but I also expect that Facebook is doing this for not just the team they just acquired. I think Facebook really wants this technology. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, that may be true but they'll want it for Facebook. And if you're a fan of Facebook, that's great, Facebook's going to get better. But if you're not? If you're a a fan of FriendFeed? Then all you're going to end up with is a bastardized FriendFeed with lots of dipshit apps. - Akiva Moskovitz
Jesse: I'm not so sure. The technology will need to be rebuilt for the Facebook infrastructure. That's one reason why Paul doesn't have good answers for us yet. He said he needs a few weeks to really dig into Facebook's code base before he even has a good idea of where he and the FriendFeed'ers can really add value. - Robert Scoble
Akiva, I'm a fan of both. And you know you can ignore those apps - that's not something you can do on FriendFeed or Twitter. FriendFeed would have gotten just as bad as it grew. - Jesse Stay
Dave: thinking back on why I joined FriendFeed, it was because I expected that the team would do something interesting in the future. That reason has now been fulfilled and now that these guys are at Facebook it'll be interesting to see what they do. - Robert Scoble
Jesse, where is the button to ignore the apps? I want to ignore all of them, all the time. Instead, I have to click hide on every single bloody one of them and still get notifications from people wanting me to add apps. I'd tolerate Facebook better if there was a magic "no apps, ever" button. - Rochelle
Somewhat selfishly, I have just gained a whole load of new friends on Fb, here and on Google Reader and have learned loads about sharing and subscribing for which I thank you all :-) I will just watch and wait now, but I do agree that if everyone dashes off somewhere else and deserts FF, it could well hasten its demise. Best to try and use all the services and interlink them if we can. - Julia Ault
Rochelle: I want you to install the FriendFeed app. :) - Louis Gray
I am sure that FB was not happy if FF was going into MS hands or Google hands ,they bought it and now they will be the most important live and live search player on top of the best social community,,I am happy for them and for us as well ,they will keep our home and thats great news - Johni Fisher
Jesse, this is true. I guess my real point is—aside from the easy-as-punch Facebook app snarking—that the very philosophies on which each service was built are essentially different. I'm not saying that these divergent ideas can't be unified. I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. I'm sure the... more... - Akiva Moskovitz
Wish I was a millionaire like him :/ - Mark
"I'm just not convinced that they're compatible enough to be integrated without irritating one group and overwhelming the other. " - very well put, Akiva. - Meryn Stol
Akiva, who says they will become one site? Why not enable the two communities to remain separate if they want, under the Facebook brand? I don't think we know yet what will happen. - Jesse Stay
Good news because I love friend feed in it's current format. - Rob Cairns
Robert, yes, we don't know for sure, but then again we don't know for sure - I don't see reason to change too much of our trust until something actually happens. I do know Facebook wants to open up more, while still retaining your right to privacy. The privacy thing is something FriendFeed (or Twitter) doesn't have, and I think would be a welcome addition. - Jesse Stay
Rochelle, you have to do it either by app, or individual (unless I've missed the option). That said, I would kill for the ability to do that on FriendFeed or Twitter. They don't even have that. - Jesse Stay
Jesse: FriendFeed doesn't have apps, so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to; if you mean the ability to hide posts aggregated from a particular service, that's already there. - Tristan Seligmann
Last I checked, Jesse, FriendFeed didn't have MafiaWars or Superpoke. - Akiva Moskovitz
(If you click on "Hide", and then "hide other items like this one", you get a whole list of options) - Tristan Seligmann
FriendFeed has a finite number of things to hide ("all items from Bob", "all Flickr posts", etc.). That's much more easy control than the thousands of apps on Facebook. It's like playing whack-a-mole over there. It feels like the more I hide, the more they appear. - Rochelle
Akiva, Tristan, it's only a matter of time before the auto-dm apps appeared on FriendFeed. So long as FriendFeed grows, they will come. So long as it doesn't grow, it *does* disappear. There's no "hide all from the app that generated this DM" option on FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, and, with all of the hide options already present on FriendFeed, you don't think the devs would have had the presence of mind to include something similar for any supposed FriendFeed apps? - Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, I trust that they'll add that as much as I trust they'll continue to fight for FriendFeed at Facebook. - Jesse Stay
They don't even need any extra options; you can already hide direct posts based on the application that created them. For example, if you hide this post of Robert's, you'll get the option to hide all posts by iPhone. - Tristan Seligmann
Jesse, I think no-one doubts that *they* will fight. The question is if they win. They're just employees now. - Meryn Stol
Again, I'm surprised that my own cynicism—legendary in its own right—is being beaten about the face and neck in this thread. - Akiva Moskovitz
Meryn, I also know the Facebook team - they're just as competent as FriendFeed's. Their original audience started different than FF's, but they too have to expand. - Jesse Stay
Holden: engagement. - Robert Scoble
It's hard for innovators to stop innovating, and for entrepreneurs to lose the total freedom and self-reliance that drives them. Every entrepreneur that I know personally (only a few, alas!) who has sold for the big bucks has eventually gone on to create something else. - Kathy Fitch
Jesse, as I said earlier, my lack of knowledge on the plans of Zuckerberg is the problem. Do you know Zuckerberg? In the end, he's gonna decide what appears on Facebook or not. Also, it's not so much a matter of competence than it is a matter of vision and taste. - Meryn Stol
I'm sure the FB engineers are competent. - Meryn Stol
And wouldn't it be fascinating to have a gander at the kinds of separation agreements folks who leave FB must sign? Almost as interesting as seeing the acquisition agreement in this case. - Kathy Fitch
It's totally unclear if future conversations we might have on FB will ever be indexable by Google. (or any other search engine) That all depends on Zuckerberg's final say. I can't look in the guy's head. - Meryn Stol
Sure seems like you're scrambling, Robert, to place yourself in the center of this when you were completely blindsided by the sale. Justs sayin' - Mattb4rd
Louis, nope! Those are two separate worlds for me and I intend to keep it that way. - Rochelle
Once you stop owning something you lose the ability to make promises about it. Good intentions or no. One hard headed business decision like FF is not earning its keep or we need the resources elsewhere and it's done. Been on both sides. - Todd Hoff
The only thing that would make a real difference in this case would be an unambiguous statement from Mark Zuckerberg himself. Let him address the FF community and actually say what he will commit himself to. I suppose he's a man of his word. - Meryn Stol
Good news. Doin' the right thing! - Rob Schieber
Yeah sure! Promises Promises!!! - Jose Luis Santos
Hmm. A whole lot of the sale was in stock options. Takes awhile to get fully vested. The next few years should prove very interesting. - Kathy Fitch
How can you live up to that promises when you no longer own it? - John D Reasor
....hmmmm, we got the wrong impression then? - Mark Essel
Nevermind, I'd feel a helluva lot better with an unattached open social media where I could rely on keeping contacts and connections however weak for as long as I chose to continue using the service. - Mark Essel
Actions speak louder then words, and the key is the final decision is no longer up to him. I am sure Paul means every word he says I just not sure he is going to be able to keep it. - Kim Landwehr
I don't expect FF to go away right away. I just expect things will definitely be different. I do hope that FB does improve, but I am also branching out given the sale. - Kevin Whalen
"Promises are a bourgeois invention and, anyway, they're meant to be broken." [V. I. Lenin quoted from inexact memory] by - ianf ⌘
@louisgray's »If you see the post I put up last night...« <http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...> If you cared for others to read that post, you'd have included a direct link to it. It's the essence of hypertext, and any "Silicon Valley early adopter, tech geek blogger" worth the name would have done just... more... - ianf ⌘
It would make some business sense to keep FF as some kind of separate site/module, if just to stop another site taking it's place and becoming another competitor. - Robert Littlejohn
Hi Ian! I get what you are saying, but sometimes, dropping links to my own posts in other people's threads looks like spam. I also believe a good number of people saw it, and know how to get it otherwise. That said, it's right here: http://www.louisgray.com/live... - Louis Gray
Robert - To say Facebook is more interesting to work for than Google may be a stretch. While Facebook is growing exponentially and has challenges, Google faces HUGE challenges just staying Google ... while exploring new areas of growth. Keeping the index relevant is a big challenge in itself. On the other hand ... the 'FF guys' have worked there already and know how they feel about what direction they wanted to go ... which .. I think ... makes a little more sense? - Charlie Anzman
Charlie: remember most of this team already worked at Google. Facebook is pre IPO. Google is not. The potential rewards are much larger at Facebook and the potential to have an impact is much larger at Facebook too. - Robert Scoble from iPhone
Posting links (references) to one's other posts "looks like spam"? That's news to me, and a lame excuse. In any event, given main difference between worlds of analog and digital publishing being ability in the latter case to refer back to source in unambiguous and granular fashion (rather than, as in analog, to indicate issue, chapter, page, verse, line, etc - if at all), not including... more... - ianf ⌘
ianf, I agree, but it feels like spam when you're doing it. Encourage him nicely. - Bruce Lewis
i suspect that, if FF were to survive relatively unchanged it will be through an open-source effort. i doubt FF will survive as a stand-alone site w/ Fb paying the freight. - MikeAmundsen
Why don't the FF founders release an official statement saying how long the site will continue and what we can expect if we stay? - Tomy Thomson
Keep in mind that despite the best intentions, nearly half of all sincere promises end in divorce. - April Russo (app103)
Robert: I agree that the technology with great audiences don't get killed off, but the name of the game to the shareholders is money. It makes a ton more sense for facebook to integrate friendfeed into facebook, an already monetizable model, vs. leaving it as a de-coupled technology that has to have a new revenue model built for it. - Erik Boles
like x1000 - Raphael, Raphael
With so much money still on the table in the form of stock options, there's certainly plenty of motivation to make FB stellar. If FF ends up being treated well, too (for whatever reason--a promise, a warm fuzzy feeling, its potential role in helping to make FB stellar), then I'm all for that. - Kathy Fitch
There is a way to argue keeping FF going makes sense to FB: The important thing in social software ISN'T the software, it's the people who use it. If the people who use FF are sufficiently different to those on FB, then it could make sense to keep both services. Possibly they may end up using the same software, but have different brands. Think of VW group in cars (SEAT/Skoda/VS/Audi are... more... - Nick Lothian
That makes me feel better about trying to switch mainly to Friendfeed. - Hunt from iPhone
Interesting thread. I think that Paul has the best intention and he will do everything he can to keep the existing service up. Dave Winer has a good summary of the forces he will have to fight against. Making a Facebook vs. Google vs. Microsoft decision was probably a hard one. I am wondering if Twitter was in the race too...Twitter + Friendfeed could have been a great team to go... more... - Edwin Khodabakchian
Why the outreach now and not earlier in the week? Has something spooked the FF team? Seeing people looking for alternatives, and poking around Google Reader, Streamy, SocialThing, perhaps? Robert said it himself, if people leave here, FF dies, and the team doesn't have a whole lot to sell to FB (yeah, arguably) and that could scotch the whole deal. So I'm just wondering why the outreach now? - Dominic Jones
ianf: don't you know, links are dead? ;) - Tristan Seligmann
read it from the begining, I'm happy FF crew is beginning to acknowledge the questions, Dave definitely has a point, but all-in-all I thought death was near, it looks like it gets delayed for some time. The main thing is ppl are still here although reader is the new playground...unfortunately the communication with their team isn't all that good... - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, "read [297 more comments] from the begining" is not a good advice for anything, least of all here, in the Kingdom of Perpetual Constant Fragmentary Attention Overload, where realtime fly-by comments are the rule. - ianf ⌘
Robert, thank you for sharing this info. I hope everyone got the message clearly. Wonderful news! - Michael Fidler from iPhone
Ok, I hadn't time to read all the comments on this thread. But this sure sounds promising, and I do trust Robert and Louis when they're saying something. So I'm hopeful:) - Patrik Johansson
It is not whether Friendfeed lives or dies. It's whether our free-wheeling, anarchic, community-driven approach will be replaced by the bland family-oriented guidelines of Facebook. Will we still be able to chuckle of Asian men on a beach, for example? - Aaman (Clone of FF)
hey all, we can't return to the past, what happen has already happened, now the question is this one, may a micro community survive inside a large community, the answer is YES, FF community can and may have the same social behaviour it has here, and when move to FB, we need just to preserve our connections, and to maintain the same behaviour. that all, but even ancients tribes don't survive without scarifying some of their tradition. - abdellah
Will Friend feed just get - morphed into Facebook now? clearly they want to take on Twitter. I noticed that I tryed to remove my Friend feed from facebook recently because less techy friends complained that I take over there Friend feeds...! But I can't... mmmm - PRBristolco.uk
FaceFeed. Nom nom nom. - Marlin Forbes
My goodness, there needs to be a way to search comments...I scanned to see if Paul had chimed in, but didn't see that. - Chad Gesser
Scobe: I hope he does chime in. I think he needs to since you broke that. - Chad Gesser
Chad: I think he'll say more after he has a little time at Facebook and can give definitive answers as to what the FriendFeed team is going to do there. He told me that will take several weeks. - Robert Scoble
no i didnt know that - Chris Nwakalo
if so wonderful news - Ronald
Facebook is genuinely interested in best in class customer experience. I can't yet envision what features or practices are incorporated or left behind, but it seems a positive move for users. There is always a die-hard loyal following that doesn't want to see their Freind (feed) go away. Heck, I still record The West Wing on Bravo. - Jeff Marmins
Yeah i sure hope so robert. . i really rather not be on facebook. - RamirezG
Chad, to aid in scanning, you can do a Ctrl-F (or equivalent) and search the current page for "- Paul Buchheit" and/or install my user script that adds a mini avatar to the beginning of each comment http://friendfeed.com/friendf... - Micah Wittman
Scoble, why do you think FriendFeed won't get sacrificed by Facebook management? Most sensible thing, to me, is to get FriendFeed integrated as a feature of Facebook, then eliminate the individual brand. Fact is, it's Facebook's decision at this point, unless the FriendFeed guys got something in writing to the contrary (which likely didn't happen). Sometimes you've got to go with your... more... - Jason Nunnelley
Jason: it doesn't really matter. I've been on Facebook all morning and they already have a lot of FriendFeed's features. Soon the rest will be moved over too. And the servers won't get turned off anytime soon, based on conversations with FriendFeed and Facebook. So, for now, use it and be happy. Me? I've already been spreading out my social networking time just in case. - Robert Scoble
and before he disappears into a part of the web that I can't find.....how do you say his last name? Boo-Kite? Buck-heat? Really, I don't know and I wanna know. Just so I know, You know? - Morgan Haley
Robert Scoble
Did TechCrunch get removed from Twitter's Suggested User List? http://twittercounter.com/compare... Punishment? More:
The stats seem to say that TechCrunch got removed from Twitter's Suggested User List. I'm off to check it out with a new account. Is this punishment for TwitterGate? Sure seems so. - Robert Scoble
It looks like they got removed on July 26th. Mashable and ReadWriteWeb are still there. - Louis Gray
The TwitterGate posts were in the July 14-16 timeframe, if I remember. - Louis Gray
Who cares - erwin blom
The suggested user list is still Twitter decided right? No buy-in yet? - Michiel Sikkes from iPhone
yes, Thats right - Roberto Bonini
Probably wise from a pr kind of standpoint. Maybe Twitter had to step up to leaking material or they closed somekind of deal with TC - Michiel Sikkes from iPhone
Michiel: that you know of. Lots of big brands are on the SUL. We don't know the kind of deal they made to get on the SUL. For instance, Cisco provided a lot of "support" during the latest outage. Is that why Cisco's CTO is there? We'll never know because this list is totally biased and totally at Twitter's whim. - Robert Scoble
They are losing several hundred followers a day - Mark
the whole recommended user list should really have a little more end user input and maybe some or other qualifying criteria. - nathan
Robert: So it's even more likely they closed a deal because there is no transparency. "Publish but we will remove you from the list" - Michiel Sikkes from iPhone
nathan: the whole suggested user list should be done away with, but the damage is done. Before @techcrunch was put on the list I had more followers than it did. - Robert Scoble
Michiel: well, now, it sure seems a lot more likely that no deal was really reached. - Robert Scoble
And, by the way, TechCrunch's credibility just went up in my eyes because they did something that got them taken off of the list. I know I never trust anything someone says on this list when they talk about Twitter. It's like they got a $250,000 gift. Would you believe anything someone said about me if I handed out $250,000 gifts to all of them? - Robert Scoble
I was thinking more along the lines of recommended user of the month or something like, most influential user, recommended by the twitterverse... - nathan
Techcrunch probably knew that they would be taken out of the list if they published it and still they did it. Wonder how many people would really do that? - Sumanth Kolar
I think that twitter should work on some form of TEO or something that automatically grades accounts. - nathan
I would tend to agree, TechCrunch's cred would go up, but they're also drawing additional attention to twitter. - nathan
Sumanth: not many, I'm sure. Mashable has switched its business to be almost entirely about Twitter. - Robert Scoble
Mashable had an entire series around retweeting. Why? Because people retweet Mashable constantly. - Louis Gray
How do you get on the suggested user list anyhow? - Eric
Louis -- it's amazing how many retweets Mashable gets, I wonder how many people are on their 'zombie retweet' list... there's a form on Mashable.com (or used to be) where you could give them your Twitter creds and they'd auto-RT anything @mashable sent out. - Jonathan Coffman
Jonathan: I never knew that. Is it still there? - Jalada
So Twitter now sensors or did Michael Arington peeve someone off again... - Rob Cairns
Can you blame Twitter? My take on Twittergate was that it was a fairly shady move by Techcrunch/Arrington. They would have gotten much more mileage if they would have worked with Twitter, gotten consensus, and then developed the story. - Matt Martin
Eric: most of the things on Twitter's Suggested User List are now brands. So, get on the list by creating a brand. Other than that? I heard bringing them cupcakes works. - Robert Scoble
Robert, Allen Stern says that doesn't work any more - Jesse Stay
Perhaps it had something to do with this article? Maybe a bad fall out? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Erica OGrady
Oh yeah. *That* article. Much retweeted, even. - Dennis Jernberg
I noticed the list down from around 200 to 20 and even those I"d never heard of! - Ange Recchia/angesbiz
my hope is that his will push techcrunch to push rsscloud - the realtime web is too important to be owned by twitter - Michael Pinto
they were prob removed for tying to spam twitter with #techcrunch50 contest - tipplewhip
sofarsoShawn
Why does the business world vehemently rejects the iPhone? Security of information. "Dear iPhone Users: Your Apps are Spying on You" - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Why does the business world vehemently rejects the iPhone? Security of information. "Dear iPhone Users: Your Apps are Spying on You"
"Recently, Palm came under fire when programmer Joey Hess discovered the Pre's smartphone OS was sending users' GPS locations back to Palm on a daily basis. Although this information was disclosed in the company's privacy policy, the majority of the phone's owners were unaware. The incident raised questions about consumer privacy and the extent to which both handset makers and developers were gathering data on mobile users. If you think you aren't affected by these types of troubles because you don't own a Pre, think again. Multiple iPhone applications - yes, even the ones approved by Apple - are also busy tracking your personal data and "phoning home." Which applications? What data? As an end user, determining this information is difficult. But some iPhone developers have been digging into this issue and the results of their findings may surprise you. Is Pinch Media Spyware? One Developer Says "Yes" As far as we know right now, Apple itself is not performing any user tracking via its... more... - sofarsoShawn
It's completely spying reading the article it goes on: "What's worse is that you're often never told that the app will be performing this level of detailed tracking and you're often never given the opportunity to opt-out. The data recorded is continuously tracked every time you use the application. This violation of user privacy is so egregious that the developer even goes so far as to... more... - sofarsoShawn
Jason Calacanis
Usain Bolt Breaks His Own 100M World Record! - http://www.mahalo.com/usain-b...
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Tweetlejuice Helps You Overcome Boring Tweets [VIDEO] - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Usain Bolt's 9.58 at world championships shatters 100-meter record (ESPN) — un.be.lieve.able! - http://sports.espn.go.com/oly...
Usain Bolt's 9.58 at world championships shatters 100-meter record (ESPN) — un.be.lieve.able!
all kinds of wow. video - http://www.youtube.com/watch.... finally showed what he can if runs through the tape. wow. - chrisofspades
Is he real? Wow! - Michelle
I think Tyson Gay ran a really really good race - 9.71 is really really fast, I think it might even be the fastest non-Usain time. I really liked Usain's press conference before the races though, where he said 'I just wanna run, ya know? I can't wait 'til Saturday'. He's a freak. You don't just take .11 off the 100. Nobody since it's gone under 10s has taken off more then 0.05s on the previous record. - Will Higgins™
unbelievable. - Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Will ...to put this race in perspective: Tyson Gay's 9.71 is the second-fastest 100m time EVER... and he wasn't even close. http://bit.ly/1QXzkm - .LAG liked that
9.71 is actually the 3rd fastest...Bolt ran a 9.69 before. - chrisofspades
Chris... right, right. I meant that -- if Bolt wasn't in the race today, a race where he ran the fastest time and broke his own record -- Gay's 9.71 would be the second fastest time ever ...semantics, I know. ;-P - .LAG liked that
He has to be on Steroids. When Ben Johnson ran 9.79 everyone said he was what about Usain Bolt. I am not saying what he did was not amazing but the relity is he took something somewhere. - Rob Cairns
@RobCairns ...drug-testing is pretty rigid in track-and-field these days... but then, in these times, nothing will surprise us. - .LAG liked that
right LAG. Tyson probably didn't wake up this morning thinking, "if I run a 9.71, I'll get smoked." - chrisofspades
Chris... and yet, amazingly, he DID! - .LAG liked that
this man is super and unbelivable run run run - SERKAN GÜNEL
Eh, rob these days you can't trust anybody, that said, -- I don't trust those other guys and he's STILL smoking the field like it's nothing. What we're seeing is incredible - Richard Lawler
Bolt is awesome...amazing speed and he's a riot. - Jeunelle Foster
Amazing. He just obliterated the old record. Not even close. And he's got some showman in him too. Great for the sport. - Hutch Carpenter
amazing. - mjc
You have to feel a little sorry for Tyson Gay. I do think it's a good thing though that American track has been served a big fat slice of humble pie recently, as sometimes the attitudes of the athletes can be excessive. @Jeunelle - Seeing Usain win just makes you happy, doesn't it! And it's obvious that he really enjoyed winning yesterday, his 'Superman' pose was especially emphatic. - Will Higgins™
And LAN: The wikipedia page has been vandalized. Aditya Dabas apparently ran a 9.48 yesterday at the Jawaharlal Nehru Stadium, India. It's true. Fixed now. - Will Higgins™
Gay's Personal Best prior was a 9.77, so he shaved 0.06 seconds off his PB. THAT is a great performance. - Will Higgins™
@Willl....I usually root for the underdog and hell yes it makes me happy when I see someone from the poorest regions of the earth suck it to America. Roflmao Why should America have all the fame and glory? Don't we ALL strive to be great too? :) - Jeunelle Foster
He's either on steroids - which seems unlikely to me - or Bolt is a mutant. :) - Bill Sodeman
Bill if he was on drugs at that speed he would have a heart attack and collapse already. Now he may have smoked some weed and inhaled as any Jamaican would but I strongly doubt he's on drugs :) - Jeunelle Foster
How long can records in these races keep on falling? It's just amazing. - Kathy Fitch
Tyson wouldn't have probably run 9.71 if Bolt wasn't there ahead of him. Sprinters normally do better when there's someone ahead of them. You see a lot of personal bests for sprinters/swimmers who end up at no 2. - Nikhil Dandekar
@Nikhil ...that's a good point. and maybe with Bolt competing, we'll start to see average times of the world's top sprinters start to drop as they train with him in their sights. i think he can probably go faster. he's already broken the WR three times in the last few years. - .LAG liked that
@Kathy: They said on TV yesterday that an University (can't remember the name) released a study saying that the limit for a human being is to run 100 meters in 9.29 seconds. We'll see if he gets there. ;) - Alejandro
UNREAL - THE TOURNAMENT - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Usain "Lightning" Bolt: man or machine? - Dennis Jernberg
Usain: the quickest man of the world... impressive!! http://www.foldier.com/items...? - Luca
Wow, that's fast! - Mike Reynolds
LAG, most definitely he can go faster. he's only 22, and an athlete's prime is 25-28 or so, which is about the age other sprinters were breaking records. - chrisofspades
The Flash! - AJ Batac
CannonGod
"TwitMusic is a very simple Twitter client app for you to tweet the song title, artist and the music genre you are listening to right now on your iPod Touch or iPhone" - CannonGod from Bookmarklet
Currently trending on Twitter as 'Playingなう♪' - or you can alternately search #TwitMusic - CannonGod
Great. More stream clogging. - Kevin Pedraja
Zee.
Why Quicksilver is still the greatest Mac app of all time. - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Why Quicksilver is still the greatest Mac app of all time. - http://thenextweb.com/2009/05/04/quicksilver-mac-greatest-app-time/
Why Quicksilver is still the greatest Mac app of all time. - http://thenextweb.com/2009/05/04/quicksilver-mac-greatest-app-time/
can't agree more. - vijay
want to agree but mine crashed alot - Franz Sittampalam
I dunno, I've been using Launchbar (the beta) for a while and I prefer it. - Jalada
i dont mean to sound aggressive Jalada, but I'll put my house on it that Quicksilver can do everything and more better than Launchbar - Zee.
Oh yea zee. Qs can do a lot more than Launchbar. I do prefer Launchbar anyway :) - Zio Bonino
I couldn't use QS for more than search & running apps. And for that the Spotlight works well, which made me remove QS. BUT, knowing it now posts to friendfeed directly, I guess I'll try it again... - Arnaldo M Pereira
After reading this review I guess I should install this as the next level of **Pimping my Mac** - Jonathan.Rivera
I'm a long time fan of QS, but -for the sake of infosharing- you can do quick unit conversions using the Google Quick Search Box as well. Simply double-tap the command key and when the search box comes up type, for instance: 100 miles into km. - The first choice offered should be "Search Google..." - Hit that, and Google will do the unit conversion in your browser. - Carlos Granier-Phelps
ça me plait - andré
I'm sure Quicksilver can do it all, but I always found Quicksilver's configuration to be cumbersome and complicated. Maybe I was just doing it wrong :P - Jalada
I used QS for a long time and love it but found it ate a lot of resources on my old powerbook so I stopped using it. I tried Butler and although very different metaphor it did everything QS did but again found the same thing with resources. Now I use the google quick search which is nowhere as hungry but doesn't really cut it yet. As I'm doing more and more in firefox now I'm using ubiquity more and more and that is rocking. - Brett Jackson
is quicksilver under active development? - Franz Sittampalam
Shedali: as far as I know, there is still some active development ongoing by members of the quicksilver community. However, Alcor, the creator and lead developer of Quicksilver, is now heading up a team at Google developing the Google Quick Search Box: http://code.google.com/p... - Brandon Titus
I would love to have a Quicksilver guru help me use Q more effectively. Seem like I'm mostly using it as an app launcher. Any tips INS goodsite for this? - JR Holmes from Nambu
I was a satisfied user of Quicksilver until OS X 10.5 came out. Quicksilver became unstable on it and some plugins didn't work anymore. I now use Google Quick Search Box which looks more stable and promising than QS. - Brome
I dumped it last year - Quicksliver is too complicated and it's balky on Leopard. - Bill Sodeman
I just bounced back over to Quicksilver after an extended relationship with Butler. Butler's interface seems a little more simple to me, but QS is fast, super extensible, and I like the QS plugins. - Joel Zehring
I can't live without QS and will be heartbroken if it stops being compatible with the upcoming os releases. - wynlim
Quicksilver tutorial: http://bit.ly/kGNY Manual: http://bit.ly/Fa7FC QuickRef: http://bit.ly/11d3vT - Howard Melman
I can't live without Quicksilver, first thing I install on a Mac - Simon Tracey
My problem with Quicksilver is that I become SO dependent on it on my own mac that I can't seem to do anything when I get on a Mac that doesn't have it. - Jeff Smith from twhirl
+1 Jeff lol... - Zee.
@Jeff, and the same applies to Windows! Now I can never go back... - Vincent van Wylick
JR Holmes, I'm no expert, but: http://friendfeed.com/micahwi... - Micah Wittman
Recently I haven't been using it that much, but that's because I've been spending less time at the computer. - Richard A.
Quicksilver was indeed ahead of it's time ESP for those us us who prefered not to use mice - before spotlight using the GUI on a Mac wasn't my favorite - chad calease from Nambu
+1 Jeff; would be happy if apple integrated something like quicksilver; I thought spotlight would become a quicksilver killer but it doesn't offer the same indispensable object-action style of interacting with items etc. I must have OCD because I've accumulated over 1000 address book cards and quicksilver just cannot handle this without crashing for me! - Franz Sittampalam
I wish I had a nickel for every second of time QS has saved me...It's a must have. - Chris Rossini
Brad Williamson
SimplyNoise.com - The best white noise generator on the Internet. - http://simplynoise.com/
SimplyNoise.com - The best white noise generator on the Internet. - http://simplynoise.com/
Uses of White Noise: * Aid Sleep * Enhance Privacy * Block Distractions * Mask Tinnitus * Configure Audio Equipment * Soothe Migraines * and more... - Brad Williamson from Bookmarklet
Throw on your headphones and check this out! It's FREE! - Brad Williamson
I can make the brown noise!!! - Lokei Atikus™®
Oooh, if I can pull this through WMP, then I can play it through my alarm clock program. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
What kind of alarm clock program do you have? - Brad Williamson
Nice work, Chris. P.S. Any sales you make with this white noise player I, and ONLY I, discovered need to be split 50/50 with me ;-) - Brad Williamson
SimplyCrazy - Ahmed
@Lokei ZING!!! - Brad Williamson
white noise can help babies fall asleep. - James
They piped in white noise at my last call center job to help prevent people from hearing other conversations. In related news...I slept like a baby. - Mike Lewis
Anyone know if white noise helps with meditation? - Brad Williamson
Zee.
xPad. The Ultimate Notepad. - http://getxpad.com/#
xPad. The Ultimate Notepad. - http://getxpad.com/#
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trying it out now update: i can't see/understand why this is 'ultimate'. Looks pretty mediocre to me so far - Zee.
better than Textmate? - bnoise
Looks good, but I've been using TextWrangler because of color coding needs. Does xPad have anything along those lines? - Kenley Neufeld
notepad++ - Alfredo
Alfredo: I belive that notepad++ is Windoze only. - Kenley Neufeld
if has to be free I'd go with Smultron for everything else there's TextMate - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Emacs. :D - mjc
Is it web-based? A web based editor would be awesome :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Ohohohoh - editor war! Let me be the first to say 'vi' :-p - Andy Bold
xPad isn't really a notepad in the sense of windows' notepad. it's more like windows' wordpad. not the best editor for programmers. for a web based editor, rahsheen, check out http://www.createworkspace.com/ - tiffany
@mjc, microemacs, too. No excuse not to use it really for text-wrangling purposes <http://www.jasspa.com/>. All commands are executable from the keyboard, no mouse needs apply. - ianf ⌘
Très utile - andré
Carlos Granier-Phelps
Best Twitter client that I have ever found. :) - Stephen
Looks nice. - Kol Tregaskes
What about it makes you like it so much? - amygeek
They spent way to much time making it look pretty, and very little on making it functional. This is the only native Windows twitter client that I've heard of though. - Daniel Sims
I currently use Digsby as my IM and Twitter/Facebook/etc.. client... Though it's severely lacking much of what a "Twitter Client" should be, I really DON'T want to use a second app just for twitter (I need all the screen real estate I can get, even with dual 21" 1600x1200 screens). Not to mention, I WANT A FRIENDFEED CLIENT! FUCK TWITTER! - LarchOye
tried it 'cause I'm a fan of beautiful UI. came away completely disappointed. - vijay
good app, needs better UI though - TheHenry
Robert Scoble
Wow. http://www.xlhit.com is a game changer for real time web (Twitter/friendfeed). Imagine if we had this during Chinese earthquake!
Robert, your relentless FF love is affecting me. And also, I've had a weird surge in FF followers this last week. I'm not the only one. Has it reached critical mass? I'm starting to submit to the FF love. Why'd I even fight it? - Melissa
Melissa: it's a doubling penny. Ever study how a doubling penny works? For the first 20 days most people think it's lame. Then it starts seeming like it's important. :-) We're at about day 15 for friendfeed. Twitter is on day 34. :-) - Robert Scoble
does it keep translating and streaming? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It's on our list :-) - Charles Ying
I guess so. Still, I find that I have a FB window, FF window and Tweetdeck open simultaneously. I have yet to find a way to cohesively put them together. - Melissa
Steven Perez
Guess What I Was Watching While The Bread Was Baking
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MULTIPASS! - Chris, Taskerrific Guy
5th Element, awesome movie! - Glenn Slaven
fifth element - Alfredo
All too easy. - Rob Haas
Yes, she knows it's a multipass - Glenn Slaven
My all-time favorite movie! - jcunwired
Yes, great movie. - Micah Wittman
badda big boom! - Joe Pierce
Ethan wins. He knows all about MULTIPASS. :D - Steven Perez
Raggedy Ann in the 31st Century? - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
"ecto gammat!" - MikeAmundsen
LOVE. Stop making me want to rewatch sci-fi movies I've already seen. I already watched Blade Runner last night. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Hi I'm Corbin Dallas - Lokei Atikus™®
Pippi Longstocking? - Todd Hoff
I love this movie for some reason - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Never without my permission. - jcunwired
The Bridges of Madison County? - Matthew DeVries
Rah, you love it because it was filmed through a filter of concentrated awesome and Milla Jovovich. - Joe Pierce
Funny - I baked bread BEFORE I watched this today! - Sparky
Oh, wow - is that the girl from Lazytown (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)? No, wait... her hair is pink. Gosh, call me stumped! - Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
GAH, Lazytown is the most frightening kids show I've ever had to endure. That guy with the chin freaks me out. - Joe Pierce
awesome movie - Ryan Dadey
Was just watching this the other night...still love this movie! - Carlton Hackett
colored hair went in cuz of this movie - Noah David Simon
عنصر پنجم می بینی و عمرا بتونی این جمله من رو بخونی اخوی خارجی - خیزران kheyzaran
Beautiful movie. One of my favourites. - Chris Nixon
:D - Mo Kargas
:) I still don't understand why, but I like this movie. - Parth Awasthi
@Parth Cos it rocks ;) - Mo Kargas
MUUUULITEEEEE PASS! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
give me the CAAHHHHSSSSHHHHHH - Trish Haley
Negative. I am a meat popsicle. - Joe Pierce
Supergreen. - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
That's the best show I've ever done. :) - Steven Perez from IM
Aziz! Light! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Can you believe my lovely significant other has never seen it? - Mark Essel
at least I got a free lunch. - Joe Pierce
Mr. Rhod, you are going to have to assume your individual position. - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I DON'T WANT ONE POSITION. I WANT ALL POSITIONS! - Steven Perez from IM
You can call me Ruby. - Steven Perez from IM
Good. That... that whole thing's your name, huh? Do you have, uh... a shorter name? - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
ZERO STONES, ZERO CRATES!!! - Steven Perez from IM
Watched this the other day. Good movie in its own special way..... - Roberto Bonini
LOVE!!!! - Katie is Frittering
"I love to sing!", she recently confessed to me! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Count ... to ... ten. - Steven Perez from IM
BEL BADABOUM :) - Ale♫nastrorosa
Lady, I only speak two languages: English and bad English. - Steven Perez from IM
I love this movie...hot. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Love the Alien Diva aria - one of many small victories in this movie. Also, orange strappy fashion by Gaultier. - Richard pancakhaus Walker
Yeah, Gaultier's fashion in this movie is so awesome! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Great movie! - Martha
We watch this movie almost once a month. It's just one of those things. Need to initiate the new TV with this one soon. And the Matrix! - Josh Haley
I adooooore - Mary
<3 - Anna Haro
Raggidy Ann and Andy Enter the Matrix? - Mike Lewis
Carlos Granier-Phelps
Zee.
E.Factor - Does anyone use this? Anyone a member? http://www.efactor.com/
E.Factor - Does anyone use this? Anyone a member?  http://www.efactor.com/
it's really nicely designed and appears to have a huge membership but I struggle to meet anyone who actively uses it. - Zee. from Bookmarklet
figured as much! :) - Zee.
There are many people who use it regularly. I will be glad to introduce you to them. Also, a large part of E.Factor is the offline events to bridge the online and offline worlds. Get people meeting in person, face to face. Check out the events calendar here: http://www.efactor.com/p... - Stephanie
In addition we want to open it up to third parties who want to create business applications to use on it. If you know anyone send them my way! have a great day! - Stephanie
Hey Stephanie, thought you might show up! Means you're doing your job! :) I've asked around and I just can't find enough people in the tech circle...Is it mainly non-tech industry folk that attend? If not, send them this way and have them comment and share their thoughts - Zee.
We have a great mix of traditional vs. new & avant garde entrepreneurs that come out. I will send them your way. At your service!! That's what we do, we hook it up! - Stephanie
i use it a lot! as there lots of people that can give you advice and help you out!I got some new clients from them.as well as some great brainstorm sessions and seminars.so just try it.I am trying to get some action on the forum as well so please ask you questions. greets martijn - martijn zijerveld
Hi Zee, I'm a happy eFactor member. They organize foray with interesting speakers, e.g. Joop Braakhekke, Peter R. de Vries here in The Netherlands at Spaces. But also elsewhere in the world. The events also attract a lot of interesting attendees. - Paul
You can also check this link http://twittgroups.com/groups... And see what others are saying about it. - Stephanie
I am totally impressed with the overall vision of The E FACTOR. The E Factor is linking LIKE MINDED PEOPLE (Entrepreneurs) like never before ON & OFF LINE! Check out an E FACTOR LOUNGE in a city near you. Eric M. Dye (Brazil) - Eric Dye
What I like the best is the speakers and the events that E FACTOR has. It is always necessary to keep in the mix of entrepreneurs who are positive, motivated, and ambitious. I find that E FACTOR does a great job of connecting me with others who are equally (if not more) motivated than myself. - Mike Davis
Sardar Mohkim Khan
Mixcloud: Radio and Podcast the YouTube way | Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News - http://startupmeme.com/mixclou...
Mixcloud: Radio and Podcast the YouTube way | Startup Meme - Technology Startup and Latest Tech News - http://startupmeme.com/mixcloud-radio-and-podcast-the-youtube-way/
Chris Weige
Kevin Bondelli
You know what's creepy? Taking a super macro close-up of your eye.
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I concur... - Mona Nomura
Made creepier by the fact that Domo is no doubt behind you with a knife! - Mark Krynsky
That's only because your eyes don't reflect the Dark Side of the Force. - Steven Perez
My mum makes me take literally dozens of pictures of her eyes, SHE IS OBSESSED! - Michael Forian
Luckily this was taken before Domo infiltrated my residence. - Kevin Bondelli
it's only creepy if you're giving yourself a Voight-Kampff test and you have no idea why you're watching the tortoise trying to turn itself over and you're not helping. WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING IT, KEVIN??? - Karim
bump for Kevin - Josh Haley
nice brown eyes! - Susan Beebe
Dan Hsiao
My Macbook Pro is now complete
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HAHAHAHAHA! - Mona Nomura
Dan, are you hiding being your MBP? hehe - imabonehead
Where do you get the sticker, or is it custom? - Eric @ CSTechcast.com
+1 Dan! - Larry Kless from twhirl
@imabonehead i'm taking the picture with my cameraphone :) - Dan Hsiao
@Eric my sticker = http://www.cafepress.com/friendf... + scissors/exacto knife + lots of focus/patience - Dan Hsiao
friendfeed fans? - junrxu
so... proud... tears... - Rajiv Bhatia
how do we get some of those...or do laymen friendfeeders miss out - T-Ho
Beaaauuuuutiful :-) - Jenny
Traci, read my comment that's four comments above your comment. :) - Dan Hsiao
If at all possible, cover it with another clear layer of something. The color rubs off fairly easily. - EricaJoy
when it says "7 more comments" and indicates to click there, it requires too much work ;-) Sorry I didn't expand the comments before commenting. Will remember to click through it all next time! - T-Ho
looks pretty good although i probably wouldn't do that to a macbook pro - Cee Bee
proselytizer! - Rebecca Sun
Richard
@audaciousgloop, yes I do see RWW as a startup. it took 3 years or so to get revenue, so I think that qualifies it ;-)
Mona Nomura
Finger-Mounted Toothbrushes - Compact Travel Hygiene (pictures, images, etc.) - http://www.trendhunter.com/photos...
Finger-Mounted Toothbrushes - Compact Travel Hygiene (pictures, images, etc.)
that looks like a condom - Trish R
:O - Josh Haley
SO GROSS - Mona Nomura
i had something like that for the babies, but it only had nubbins on the tip, not a full on brush! - Admiral Anika
Finger cot! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think I have one like that for my dog! - Michael Forian
I had to look at that picture 3 different times and from 4 different angles to understand it. - Eric Rice
Just doing what I do, Spin! :) - Mona Nomura
+1 Faboo Mama, I have one for my baby. - BeeLing
+1 Faboo, We've been using one for our kid too. Gets a bit painful once their teeth start growing in and they discover that they can bite you. ;-p - ronin
It is indeed getting late. I just read BeeLing's comment above as "+1 Faboo Mama, I want you to have my baby". LOL! - Josh Haley
hahahah Josh! Get to bed ;-) - BeeLing
good plan! Thanks Bee! - Josh Haley
Melissa
Hi there, Melissa! :) - Bren -- feeling merry
Hey Bren :) sorry I was packing. hee hee - Melissa
no worries, Melissa. How are you tonight? - Bren -- feeling merry
Doing well. Tired but very excited about leaving town for a few days to attend a wedding. How about yourself? - Melissa
I'm good, thanks. Have a great (and safe) trip :) - Bren -- feeling merry
Thank you, Bren. Have a great weekend. - Melissa
cool pics - imabonehead
l0ckergn0me
Have You Turned Your iPhone into a PC or Mac Remote Control? - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Have You Turned Your iPhone into a PC or Mac Remote Control?
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I have Mocha VNC lite, I try it out every once in a while - Kevykev
Sugree Phatanapherom
Sugree Phatanapherom
Richard
5 Ways to Sell Social Media to Your Boss http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
When is the post for 5 ways to sell your value to the boss and keep your job in tough economic times coming? ;) - Mark Krynsky
@Four20, admitedly 3 pages was overkill. I couldn't preview it when I edited. Cut it back to 2. But pagination us useful for long articles, so get used to it :-) - Richard from FriendFeed MT Plugin
Loic Le Meur
This Describes Perfectly How We Feel... - http://profy.com/2008...
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this pic was posted by Svetlana (@profy) just followthe link to read her piece - Loic Le Meur from twhirl
et ou est le quatrième? parce qu'ils doivent être quatre,:). - Hami
I have a picture of that bench except my daughter is sitting in the vacant spot. In San Francisco I think. - Michael Tefft
génial! - Hami
is this bench in San Francisco??? - Loic Le Meur from twhirl
ha! i have a pic of that bench, too: http://flickr.com/photos... - Admiral Anika
Yeah it's on Grant street, in Chinatown, in front of a store that sells versaille-esque stuff & these brass sculptures. - anna sauce
sequoia venture advise to cut costs - jfayel
anna thanks, I will maybe go and have my pic taken there, it will be totally appropriate - Loic Le Meur
My offics is a block away from there. If anyone wants to take a picture there, come by and visit, coffee;s on me. - David Sifry from twhirl
David: hilarious, I may need a coffee and that picture tomorrow... - Loic Le Meur from twhirl
Awesome Loic, c'mon over! - David Sifry from twhirl
edythe
Michael's favorite fruit - RAPatton
I Like apple :) - Mahdi Ebrahimi
Beautiful, I like! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Wonderful! I likey. =) - Anthony K. Valley © from twhirl
my favorite fruit, too. - edythe
Pretty set :) - BeeLing
WOW. nice set, edythe - Melissa
میلاد - Maryam Ardakani
Very nice set. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
مریم =)))))))))))))))))))) - Mil∂d
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