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@jeffnolan The shift occurred long before TechCrunch noticed it http://nick.typepad.com/blog...
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Nick some of us were mining the atream for quite some time. Attention Trust :) But of course you weren't referring to me.
- Steve Gillmor
sending gesture streams to the clouds...
- seth goldstein
exactly, and Nick was the first aggregator to harness attention
- Steve Gillmor
Those who think that the "stream" is new weren't paying attention outside their sphere.
- Nick Bradbury
that's better
- Steve Gillmor
And I continue to maintain that RSS is what will deliver that stream (but not necessarily in an aggregator like I built).
- Nick Bradbury
aggregators like the one you built paved the way for what's coming
- Steve Gillmor
I hope so - and hope to be in on that, too :)
- Nick Bradbury
I don't see how it can truly be a stream if somebody has to keep saying "Got anything for me yet? How 'bout now? How 'bout now? ... ". Workarounds like SUP that add "push" to RSS are just going to delay the inevitable move to HTTP push, webhooks, and XMPP.
- Ken Sheppardson
this conversation is not happening over RSS.
- Steve Gillmor
why are both TweetDeck and Seesmic Desktop so much more current than search.twitter.com on Maureen Down updates tonight? How can that be?
- Tom Guarriello
No, but it's being archived in my RSS reader.
- Nick Bradbury
And I'd prefer my RSS reader to be where I have these conversations, so I can avoid having them in so many places.
- Nick Bradbury
the movement is is on your shoulder
- Steve Gillmor
I don't care how many places they occur as long as there's one coherent rendering that I can control
- Steve Gillmor
what's an rss reader?
- seth goldstein
Aggregator = universal in/outbox = stop spreading myself over these @$% services and give me a central place for the conversation
- Nick Bradbury
agreed. dont even know how i ended up here on friendfeed, from tweetie to fbook to this... but i do think the desire for a central place is quixotic, and that we have to learn to accept the mess
- seth goldstein
FriendFeed is working just fine so far; wonder when Nick and others will jump in here
- Steve Gillmor
the mess is just as much of a mirage as the "central place". Applying virtualization moves the discussion forward
- Steve Gillmor
off to the store nice swarming with y'all
- Steve Gillmor
The fact that one happens to call their pseudo-universal inbox an "RSS Reader" or an email client or an IM client or some site-specific Air client is a sort of artificial distinction I hope we can do away with soon... I just want an inbox.
- Ken Sheppardson
Swarm ya later Gillminator.
- Colin
Techies can accept the mess, but that leaves non-techies out of the conversation. Geeks make too many bad decisions by themselves.
- Nick Bradbury
Well, when people start publishing their blog feeds to Twitter/FF as well as or instead of RSS, we've successfully gotten rid of RSS, that might happen right?
- Colin
the more we accomplish something, the more we fashion the client. relax.
- Steve Gillmor
So email, IM, and Twitter/FF are left to combine
- Colin
FF is built on IM architecture right? So the better the FF/Twitter backend and clients get, IM might join up with Twitter/FF.
- Colin
I don't know whether it's an IM architecture per se, but the FriendFeed folks certainly have a ton of experience in the IM/email space, i.e. Google Talk and Gmail. I'm sure that gives them a bit more of a messaging-based worldview than many people thinking about how this can/should all work.
- Ken Sheppardson
PS: This is my first "real" FF conversation, and I get it now.
- Nick Bradbury
bingo
- Steve Gillmor
Personalized Search Brouhaha - http://outofmygord.com/archive...
u use the immediately preceding clickstream, as in behavioral targeting? What if you start identifying themes in the clickstream data and become bolder in grouping related search suggestions. What if you do, as Marissa Mayer suggested in her interview wit
- seth goldstein
Personalized Search Brouhaha - http://outofmygord.com/archive...
u use the immediately preceding clickstream, as in behavioral targeting? What if you start identifying themes in the clickstream data and become bolder in grouping related search suggestions. What if you do, as Marissa Mayer suggested in her interview wit
- seth goldstein
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