Andy...here in the states that depends on the bar, club, or restaurant you go to. The same beer's price can vary wildly based on the location you purchase it. But a 6 pack of good beer is about $8 nowadays over here in LA...PS funny to think Budweiser is an import in London.
- Mark Krynsky
Awesome, thanks for that link, Brian!
- Jordan Hofker
Thanks for the tips! I'm down to GeoSetter and Microsoft Pro Photo Tools as my two finalists... need to play a little with them both to see which one becomes a permanent part of my workflow... If you have any further comments about one or the other, I'd love to hear your experiences and/or tips & tricks.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I'm right next door and didn't know they were having an open house. :( How'd you find out about it?
- Don MacAskill
Don: just sent you an invitation. I forgot you were so close!
- Bret Taylor
Since I live in Austin, I miss almost everything but SXSW, and I've only been to one of those.
- Phil G
If there are any left-over FF T-shirts can I send a SASE?
- Noah Carter
@Bret Taylor: Thanks! Yeah, it's been on my TODO list to stop by and buy you guys lunch but I've been so swamped the last few weeks I haven't gotten around to it. But I will! See ya tonight.
- Don MacAskill
But the real question is... is Louis there? And who's streaming it if Scoble isn't????
- Cyndy
Times like this I wish I was back in CA!
- Susan Beebe
Cyndy, I was there. Look forward to seeing you there when you go.
- Louis Gray
I wish I was there, but then I'd have missed talking with Mozilla's CTO.
- Robert Scoble
@Cyndy - you would have loved Louis's shirt.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Robert - my wife says she met you tonight at whatever shindig was going on.
- Hutch Carpenter
Hutch: yes, she did and we had a great chat about you and FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
i'm bummed i missed too, next time there are no finals on and i don't have to lay the smack down on embargo breakers, i'll be there
- MG Siegler
Wish I could be there. Just a month now until I'm in SF and can attend these types of things!
- Eric Florenzano
@Hutch What shirt? @Louis I'm guessing pigs would be flying first. ;)
- Cyndy
@Ben - Ditto! you, Cyndy and I should all fly from Rochester to SF together and crash whatever party Scoble and Louis are hanging at and surprise them! ha, ha!
- Susan Beebe
/me wishes he could just up and fly to California whenever an interesting tech company announced an open-house.
- Voyagerfan5761
@Don Robert knows everything, check his upcoming. It's crazy.
- Aaron Myers
@Cyndy - Louis has a collared shirt with his "LG.com" logo (http://www.louisgray.com/live...). Cracked me up to see him with that. But you know what? He walks in, and everyone knows him immediately because of that logo on his shirt.
- Hutch Carpenter
@Susan No dice. Louis has already met me. Scoble passed on the chance. ;) @Hutch I'm horrified that you suggest people wouldn't know Louis without the shirt! Rockstars don't need logo shirts!
- Cyndy
Looks like we need the FriendFeed jet to pick everyone up :-)
- Ginger Makela Riker
would love to shoot Salt Lake City. I'd love to do a photowalk in every major city in the US.
- Thomas Hawk
How about Rochester NY? The Lilac Festival is a great time of the year to visit.
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
I'm moving to the Twin Cities area in July. If you get up that way any time, let me know.
- Dawn M. Armfield
I am from Salt Lake City as well. Would love to participate if you make it out here.
- LiquidLag
2nd vote for Rochester, NY!! Ben, Cyndy, Jen, Aaron, SteelOpus, et al can all meet you for lunch or dinner someday and do a photo walk!!
- Susan Beebe
Wow, Thomas you are able to travel to the future! (JULY 11th! :))
- Michael Lehman
I wish I could make the trip up i-5 but i'll be going to the Police and Elvis Costello show that night.
- Squid
Sounds great, we would love to have you in SLC. Your original photowalking videos with Scoble really inspired me to take more photos and keep my camera around. Cheers!
- Jordan
I'm thinking about setting up a photowalk in Evansville, IN. Any suggestions? Never been to an organized one. The family and I did a couple on our own last year and it was fun.
- jason burton
Any of my fellow SLC'ers want to setup our own Photowalk in town? I would be glad to help organize it, but am still an amateur photog.
- Jordan
A great, extremely detailed article Q&A with Kevin. Stop what you're doing and read this now. I don't want to see any comments for another 15 minutes until you've read this unless you can prove previous comprehension from having already seen it.
- Louis Gray
"A site that visibly promotes how many ’friends’ you have turns friends into commodities, creating an economy where you are motivated to make as many friends as you can. " There goes all my feature requests for a more robust stats section of the site.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, I have that very quote in my clipboard, but I admit, I was going to say it's one of my favourite things about FF. :)
- felix
All right, after reading it fully, I never realized Kevin Fox was like the Jonathan Ive of Google Apps. What a loss for Google. I enjoyed the rationale behind why labels exist: never thought of it like that. Most people explain it as "It's better than folders. Now be quiet!"
- Mark Trapp
Love the old Google logos! Sounds like FriendFeed has a very promising UI guy on the team. Yay... The "You said earlier you found 6 types of users for Gmail. What were those? .... No comment. ;-)" is remnants of a less-open philosophy though.
- Mitchell Tsai
"People talking to people facilitated by computers." I believe that about sums up this whole social networking thing ;-)
- Paul Short
Sprague, but it could definitely be applied to things like Twitter, where people subscribe to thousands of others in hopes that they get a reciprocal follower count bump, and let's not forget about Jason Calacanis vying for top spot on twitter follower activity. The ability to get into follower competitions is facilitated by seemingly benign statistics about follower counts.
- Mark Trapp
@Kevin: Great interview, though the pic above looks like a promo for "Kevin Fox's Chiller Theatre Macabre 3000" :-)
- Chris Reed
Mark: When looking at Jason Calacanis's stats this morning http://friendfeed.com/e..., I was surprised to find that almost 45-50% of his readers are age 3-17, VERY different from Robert Scoble and Leo Laporte's age demographics. Is that because of how Jason went about gathering followers? Through the MySpace and Facebook communities maybe?
- Mitchell Tsai
I like the flat hierarchy of titles @ friendfeed, I'm a UI Designer, so of course I look up to kevin's work. Any user experience person should be as flexible and willing to contribute more than interaction sketches. I super like, super karma, super kudos this entry if friendfeed had those UI elements :)
- karl dotter
This is madness!! Folks you can't be serious! I'm sure it's a big joke or something... :)
- directeur
Greg, it's using the FF bookmarklet. When you use it, you can click on a picture to add it to your post.
- Vince DeGeorge
Awesome article. I'm really enjoying reading about user interface design, even though I've never really done it. Very inspiring stuff here.
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
Mitchell: Was it 3-17, or 13-17? If it's the former, that's awesome. And I would agree with that hypothesis: when Calacanis is active on Twitter, he's constantly demanding people react to whatever he's doing, either via comments or follows or whatever. I do know a few months ago he had a goal to get higher than Scoble in followers on Twitter, as well.
- Mark Trapp
How does it even know that? You can't legally track someone's data if they under 13 to begin with.
- Mark Trapp
Not only am I a happy user of all of the products mentioned in this article, as a UI designer I often find myself referring to these products in design discussions with my teams.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Mark: No clue... Maybe Quantcast does some estimating based on subsampling to fix the raw data? (e.g. conduct in-person interviews on a random subsample of the population)
- Mitchell Tsai
Seriously, you're doing all this for a thesis? a PhD? WHY? I mean... Are you "sciencizing" and "theorizing" socialmedia? All this is so ephemerous, so humanly erronous and lying, It doesn't deserve nobody's time and efforts...
- directeur
directeur, maybe this isn't the community for you.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: Let me very friendly don't agree :) Because in THIS community you have to study these things to be admitted? (no trolls, nothing, just a notice)
- directeur
reading this was like...read, read, *lightbulb*, read, read, *lightbulb*, *lightbulb*, read, *lightbulb*....
- Iain Baker
@Shey: I was wondering on the life in a socialmedia context, I find it so exagerated to study things like Scoble/Dupont/Smith followers and such... I asked if it's for a thesis... because if not, I'm really wondering how come I feel the only one to think that it's exagerated and somehow strange behavior...
- directeur
What, exactly, is exaggerated or strange about it?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: saying "Calacanis chart" for example, I find it exagerated... I wonder about the need to study this... You are free to do whatever you want!! I'm just wondering, I wanted some exaplanations, I really needed to know why would someone like me or you spend time on studying a so vague and IMHo useless thing as the "Calacanis chart"... I may be wrong, so please correct me if i'm wrong
- directeur
directeur, you jumped into the middle of a conversation between a few of us about a specific part of the story: calling what we're doing strange, exaggerated, stupid, silly, or any other abusive term isn't constructive. Think of this like real life: how would you feel if someone interrupted a conversation you were having with someone to tell you that what you're talking about is stupid and wrong and exaggerated?
- Mark Trapp
Hey look! It's an interview with Kevin Fox! ;-)
- Jason Wehmhoener
Mark: My bad, sorry, I though that the discussions here were open to everyone. and indeed they are, but it's still my fault, why the heck have I the need to share my own opinions? Sorry.
- directeur
Thanks for the feedback everyone! Directeur: Mark said it very well: The discussions are open and you're free to say what you like, but so are other people. If you come in and harshly criticize others, you have to accept the reality that others will harshly criticize you back. It's just like the real world.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, I was wondering, like any "mediterranean" usually do, maybe it's my english, but I never meant to be harsh... anyway.. Sorry again!
- directeur
directeur: No worries. I appreciate your comments, and love that we're getting such diverse international usage!
- Kevin Fox
I'm so impressed that Bret set up and configured everything before your first day. That says a lot.
- Ginger Makela Riker
I like the concept of everyone having the same title. Excellent read. I have learned something.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
@Ginger That says Bret has no need for a Field Tech person to me. ;)
- EricaJoy
I like the photo. Kevin's got the classic visionary staring-into-the-distance pose but at the same time he has this critical are-you-sure-this-is-right expression. It's the heroic UI reviewer.
- ⓞnor
If you roll over the thumbnail above, it changes to me doing "Blue Steel".
- Kevin Fox
oooh... when do we get to see Le Tigre and Ferrari?
- Ross Miller
So cute to see April's picture pop up over her name. :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
83 likes on this article (so far). Kevin, you're quite the popular fellow.
- Louis Gray
Awesome article. Had it in one of my browser tabs all day, finally got around to reading it. Kevin - you designin' fool! You've had a hand in some really great projects.
- Hutch Carpenter
Trying to think what kind of present to bring to that party.....
- Stefan Hayden
Wow. I've never heard of a "divorce party" before. Are they on good terms, is that the reason? I have friends who divorce and then hang out with both new spouses. Easy 10 min walk to court for the divorce. Usually they're still "in love", but realize that they are taking different paths in life.
- Mitchell Tsai
They will not (Husband wife) be at the party. It's really a 'good riddance' party and a "new chapter" party
- Jeremiah Owyang
Heheh ok ok : )) A "(P)Re-Wedding Party"
- Erhan Erdogan
It would be nice to have filters on FriendFeed. For instance, it would be nice to be able to hide any post containing the word "Obama" without having to hide someone's other stuff. Or the ability to hide any entry containing the word "ubuntu", etc.
Gary, you can turn off updates from friends of friends. If you see it, click on "Hide", "More hide options" and you can find the option there, as "Hide ALL stuff from friends-of-friends".
- Louis Gray
I just want the ability to create subsets of friends without doing it in an RSS reader.
- Ryan Brenizer
I'm big on filtering too. FF doesn't have as much noise as GReader, but filters would be nice.
- Mike Reynolds
Holy cow, yes. I would *love* to be able to filter out all the political posts...
- Matthew Freeman
from Alert Thingy
Actually, Friendfeed should highlight all entries containing 'ubuntu' imho. ;)
- roel
It would be nice to work the other way and bump up stories containing a keyword of your choice. Kind of like track, Would be useful to follow discussion on your company
- Jamie
Sounds like a perfect job for a Greasemonkey script.
- TranceMist
If you hide a conversation, do all of the FF apps hide it too? Also, is it possible to hide a conversation from w/in Alert Thingy or Twhirl?
- Bob
There is an urgent need to PRIORITIZE (recommend) new/unread Friendfeed items by personal relevance/importance. Is anyone working on this? In its current incarnation, Friendfeed is an unwieldy mess and time waster compared to Google Reader.
- Sean McBride
I think some of this was the idea behind "rooms" where someone could, say, create an "obama" room and everyone (how do they find out?) would join up and then only post obama stuff to that room and not in the general feed. Then it'd be up to you to join that room or not. Then it also filters accordingly, too.
- lilbyrdie
but don't things that you post in a room still show up to everyone following you?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, only if your followers also belong to that room.
- Mark Trapp
ahhhhh, ok, that's what I wasn't getting. That makes more sense now. Thanks Mark.
- Thomas Hawk
Or just use a client to apply the filters. Anyone know of one?
- Roberto Bonini
What Gary H said. The ability to turn off originating posts from friends of friends.
- Bryan Nystrom
Step By Step Directions...1) Click 'Hide' on a Friend of a Friend entry. 2) Click 'See options for hiding other items like this'. 3) Select the option you want and select 'Hide Entries'.
- Charlie Owen
sounds like a job for the greasemonkey filter script...via feedalizr
- Ben Reierson
Personally I like the friend of a friend feature - gives more variety. Just so long as you have a limited number of friends and/or subscribe to Scoble and his 10000 friends.
- Roberto Bonini
FILTERSSSSz!! and tags so I can SORT and categorize my own feed stuff! Need to be able to organize the slew of stuff I see in my feed...grows daily! wow!
- Susan Beebe
Just hitting F5 over and over is working pretty good for me!
- Internet's Tad
I'm finding that I need the thread of twitter in one place, and all of Friend Feed in another. So it's Twhirl and Feedalizer for me. ...via feedalizr
- Andrew Nesbitt
Ok Alert Thingy Makes more sense on FF then twhirl. Alert Thingy it is. I stopped using it cuz I thought it was stupid.
- Tim Moore
from Alert Thingy
yeah I'm done with Alert Thingy ... i'm really liking Feedalizr .. so far that is...via feedalizr
- John Blanton
- the only thing I like about it over Twhirl is the video recording and posting, which isn't that great as is.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Lol I like the replies to this from Alert Thingy and Twhirl.
- Eric Florenzano
Installed it and love it, just one thing - is it possible to use a filter to not show someone?...via feedalizr
- Simon Gelfand
Very nice look - but no keyboard shortcuts? FAIL...via feedalizr
- Boris Gordon
Good looking UI. Problem for me is I do like TWhirl's separate screens for Twitter and FriendFeed - and the fact that I can resize the windows.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from twhirl
Thanks for the tip off Scoble. This seems like a nice alternative to trial :)...via feedalizr
- CannonGod
Sticking with Twhirl..hate the colors but I think it makes the smartest use of screen real estate. And @Loic mentioned upcoming XMPP support...thats got me excited.
- Kamath (नमः)
from twhirl
I've used Alet Thingy and don't like it at all. this morning I am trying feedalizr and am liking it alot...via feedalizr
- David Jacobs
Good - nice scroll format, filters. Ick - no resize, no options. Fail - can't select text in comments (couldn't grab cool URL). Uninstalled clean and easy.
- Nancy Babyak
Everyone must have younger eyes than me because the font size is just too small and the kerning is atrocious. What's that about? I appreciate the fact the comment text is blue rather than nearly unreadable gray as it is in AlertThingy for most themes but if the font size is too small and can't be adjusted, it's a wash. I can't adjust the window horizontally. Huh. So far there are no friendfeed desktop apps that give me a better user experience than the web site itself.
- Rick Powell
better use of screen space, liked the UI overall. good job feedalizr...via feedalizr
- Siddharth Mitra
Stickign with Twhirl. I LIKE having FF in a seperate stream most of the time.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
It's strange that it won't let me expand the app window horizontally, only vertically. Not liking that....via feedalizr
- Bob
I like this little program, Just installed it. I think this is very useful to keep me updated on what's going on in FF!!...via feedalizr
- Paul
Afraid that this doesn't work behind corp proxies/firewalls at this point. The developer indicated that they are working on this and should have a revision in a few days.
- Greg
"It wouldn't be hard to allow users to create a Twitter like messaging service in a separate tab or even as their first point of reference in FriendFeed (as an option) so those who are interested only in the Twitter-like messaging can use that service primarily (or only) with FriendFeed."
- huixing
At the moment FF and Twitter are different but complimentary. For FF to offer something more than Twitter they need to first equal what Twitter offers - open API with lots of application choices; simple, clean interface and international mobile phone integration.
- James Marwood
Yes, technically reshare launched at around 1:30am. Good eye.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, is there any way to fetch the rooms list of an authenticated user via the API?
- Aviv
Also, the "via" link on the reshared item will link to the original entry if it's from a public feed. See http://friendfeed.com/e... for an example of this.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul Buchheit I'm living in FF ; and also Turkey loves you :D You know ; )
- Erhan Erdogan
Bruce, the close button should work. What browser are you using?
- Paul Buchheit
WOW - great add-on's - love the concept of the 'room' - is there a way to alert others about a post in a private room ? ie if I have members of a project team in different parts of the building or the world for that matter ...
- viki saigal
My Close button busted too Paul - IE 7 ...So i press share on FF ...it seems to do something with the lil icon going thru the circle but then the dialogue box just stays on my screen !
- viki saigal
I've definitely done a fair-bit of re-posting in the past - great call on introducing the re-share =)
- Will DeLuca
c’mon, this is already gettin’ old. bring some new … oh rooms …
- kosmar
viki saigal: try again now, IE7 should be fixed
- Casey Muller
Love rooms + resharing. Is there a way (that I'm not seeing) to reshare an item to a room, and have it retain all of the comments, likes, etc that got glommed onto it when it appeared in my original feed. thx and again, excellent work ff
- Ginger Makela Riker
yeah...reshare is something i've been wanting for a while.
- don loeb
Please implement a feature for me: send a link from the blog service to the ff api and get back all likes/comments for this entry. Or is it possible allready
- Nils Hitze
When are threaded comment system (like digg) coming?? Waiting eagerly for that..
- Jigar Mehta
@benedikt problem is, that is the same way i was using for my plugin and it isn't very sexy to fetch ALL Comments and then pick out the ones you like .. would be nicer the other way round
- Nils Hitze
It looks like WinSCP's dialog. It's not a Windows OS dialog... I know we have some doozies, but give credit where credit's due...B-).
- Shawn L. Morrissey
This is definately WinSCP, and I for one appreciate all the options. Especially the last 2, ever tried syncronising 2 remote FTP folders?
- Robert
from twhirl
I am with @Tad make sure you select to Never ask me again!!!
- Joe Dawson
I like WinSCP. I think that all those buttons are a good idea as they give you a lot of control. It is a bit of a crazy user interface, but WinSCP is built for those that can handle a slightly difficult UI, IMHO. If you don't like it, you don't have to use it. There's always FileZilla if you find WinSCP not suited to your tastes.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
Would you consider yourself addicted to the current face of the web? Definition to be clear: A behavioral syndrome characterized by the repeated, compulsive seeking or use of a substance despite adverse social, psychological, and/or physical consequences.
Yes currently addicted to all this non stop activity
- Gadiel Rivera
The fact that we, as individuals, can be exposed to more information in one day than our ancestors could in an entire lifetime makes it so. We can't help but be addicted - our mind crave information and we'll gladly cram it with as much as we can. Our minds are sponges that yearn to be filled with both the interesting AND the mundane (and inane). The Internet is an extension of this craving - not to mention the almost hypnotic way we HUNT down the information we want.
- Vince DeGeorge
of course not, but isn't denial a sign of addiction?
- Thomas Hawk
Absolutely. But I can stop anytime I want.
- Mykl Roventine
Great comments, thanks! You see, I'm undecided if it can be called addiction. Don't we all do this for positive gain for everyone, the greater good, rather than self-gratifying feeding of a monkey on our back?
- Matt Harwood
*Registers MatchMakerFeed.com for Ame and Thomas*
- Matt Harwood
I haven't suffered any additional "adverse social, psychological, and/or physical consequences" yet. I was already all those things before the web. :)
- Morton Fox
Completely addicted to micro-socnets and conversations like this.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
It doesn't make sense to throw those 3 countries in the same basket. IR and CU seem to be trending away from being outright enemies while VZ is trending the other way.
- George Donnelly
just because they "seem to be" doesn't mean they are .. but on the other hand Reagan talked to the Soviet's during a time when they wanted nothing more to wipe the USA off mother earth ...so I guess it's a crapshoot then ..
- John Blanton
The case for CU as an enemy is weak. This is a poor country with little ability to do much at all.
- George Donnelly
Yes I totally agree with that but McCain is looking at it from a "they're communist" point of view. That doesn't matter when the people of Cuba are suffering to untold degrees and the entire country is so close to collapse. Communism never has done anyone good except for the dictators.
- John Blanton
This is just McCain pandering to the right who would rather wage war than talk to anyone who looks or thinks differently than they do.
- Jon Erickson
from twhirl
Even though I myself am a conservative, the idea of McCain, Obama or Clinton in the white house makes me want to vomit. .. I don't want Bill back in the white house for ANY reason.. Clinton wants universal healthcare and McCain tried to cram illegal immigrant amnesty down our throats .. none of that is good for us .. not to mention that no one REALLY knows much about Obama's past .. that is a major concern for me. .. all we know is who raised him .. big frikkin' deal .. .
- John Blanton
Maybe the Libertarians will nominate a sensible candidate. :)
- George Donnelly
So he thinks that Kennedy, Reagan, Bush Sr., et al were "appeasers" because they talked with the leaders of Communist regimes? Is he planning on never talking about trade with China or nonproliferation with North Korea? Would he rather wait for North Korea to either implode or explode (i.e., go nuclear), and force us to deploy more American troops overseas? He thinks he's still fighting the Cold War.
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
I think the best part of his brain was left in Vietnam .. McCain said that he woiuldn't care how long we're in Iraq .. he later recanted and is saying now that we can win in Iraq in 4 years if we elect him ... somehow I doubt it ... and he's still pandering .. it's so bad my head is still spinning <edit> I do think victory is possible just not with any of the 3 candidates in the white house. </edit>
- John Blanton
Well, he still thinks Iraq war was a correct move and staying there for 100 years is wise. We shouldn't take such blabber seriously. It is just a result of old age.
- Krishnan Subramanian
at least Reagan's alzheimers set in long after he was in office, or so we're led to believe. At any rate, McCain probably wouldn't pass a simple psych exam.
- John Blanton
I just wish I could give my list of specs to someone to build the perfect client :-) They're all good, but they all lack in some way as well
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, I sent you an e-mail with just the guy to reach...
- Louis Gray
I still use twhirl. MySocial was the least appealing design of all. I do agree re: desktop clutter however.
- Tyler Hannan
As soon as Twhirl gets the single window integration down elegantly I feel this race will be over.
- Mark Krynsky
Twhirl doesn't open links in Camino so I can't use it. I know this is an Air problem though.
- Scott O'Raw
No clients. I want web only. Enough with downloaded software.
- Hutch Carpenter
mysocial doesn't seem to have integrated FF and twitter streams, right? deal breaker imo.
- Samuel Bostock
Twhirl keeps opening links in a new firefox/flock browser window instead of a new tab on my mac. *hate that*. Also doesn't seem to recognize Flock on Windows - keeps opening up in IE *hate that too*
- Kamath (नमः)
from twhirl
@Kamath As far as I know, the AIR clients tend to use whatever the "default browser" is on the system.
- Rob Diana
yeah same - whatever the default is for me.
- Dave Gray
from twhirl
I have to restart twhirl at least once a day. Memory utilization can sometimes reach 300M+. Anyone else noticing this? I have 2G on my laptop so it's not that big of a deal, but it's annoying nonetheless. It's fun watching twhirl compete with Firefox to see who can reach the 300M mark first, though.
- Jeff Brewster
@Jeff I have the same exact situation (twhirl/firefox competition), but only 1GB of RAM. It would be nice if at least one of them didn't leak all over.
- elroy
from twhirl
Twhirl has done wonders for me on Twitter, but I doubt any app will replace Friendfeed on web.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
I primarily use FriendFeed.com, Twitter.com, the Google Reader + Twitter script, the TwitIt bookmarklet, the FriendFeed bookmarklet, and the new "share with note" within Google Reader.
- Mike Reynolds
I've commented on the memory use by Thwirl in the past as well. Especially if you keep it open for a while. Some sort of memory leak perhaps?
- Steven Van Tilburg
from twhirl
I want to like Twhirl, but yes, it is a memory hog that rivals Firefox in the memory leak department. After awhile, I can't even send a tweet using Twhirl because the whole app has locked up. Worse still when you're using FF and Twitter at the same time.
- David Risley
@David Risley Amen. And god forbid you even THINK about opening Safari with that mess in play.
- Cyndy
Great overview of these services, Duncan. I've given up on desktop clients for FriendFeed for the moment. None have managed to keep me from going back to the web page.
- Carla Thompson
Revisiting this thread after installing Firefox 3 RC1. Much better than beta 5. Currently, firefox.exe running for 33+ hours is using 250Mb. twhirl.exe running for ~24 hours is using 302Mb!
- Jeff Brewster
Just enabled it on my site. You can see it in action on this post (http://www.raoulpop.com/2008...). Scroll to the end, you'll see it was liked by one person. Trouble is, sometimes the discussion occurs around the tweet that announces the blog post on FriendFeed (pulled in from Twitter), and those conversations can't be pulled in. I should probably disable the Twitter Tools plugin, just to see if it helps.
- Raoul Pop
That's sweet! though it doesn't seem to pick up conversations on, say, a Disqus comment about the post (like this one!)... so you're still not getting an true indication of how popular it is or how much buzz it's generating. But it's a start. I wish FriendFeed would aggregate all the references to a link from the different services/friends so you could see the WHOLE conversation.
- Lindsay
Perhaps the plugin could also search FF for mention of the post's tinyurl and include that discussion also? That might take care of the Tweet issue.
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Which, upon closer reading, is basically what Lindsay just said. Nice idea. :-P
- Shawn Farner
from twhirl
Thank you Shey, yes, I know and I use it. However, Jason said they are working on the trackback in Disqus and Friendfeed in Disqus functionality. That's what I am looking forward to.
- Roland Hesz
I've used it before. In concept it's a great idea, but I find the execution can create more problems than it was intended to solve.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I have a couple OpenID's and I use them when I have the option, but for me, they've not reached the point where I "feel" their value. Are you using OpenID?
- Todd Mundt
The OpenID concept is a wonderful idea but the execution leaves a lot to be desired for the average person. It is too quirky and although there are some trade-offs for security, I believe those differences to be making it difficult for the average joe to adopt.
- Scott Jarkoff
If FriendFeed, Twitter, Flickr, and whatever else supported it, I would be using it all the time _if_ I could move my current data to my OpenID name.
- Jordan Hofker
I use it a bit on a couple sites, but it can be troublesome.
- Grant Bierman
I agree with most of you - implementation seems clunkier than the theory at this point. What I've noticed is that I now have several OpenID providers, so I'm back to the same situation as before.. "now which provider did I use with xyz.com?" .. whereas before it would be "now which email / pass did I use with xyz.com?". Sadly I am reserved on whether mainstream users would ever adopt OpenID. Thanks for the thoughts! Anyone have a favourite provider?
- Matt Harwood
I use my OpenID on some sites, but I want to use it everywhere!
- Susan Beebe
Scott: that's what prompted me to post :-)
- Matt Harwood
I dream a day with a constant web id. Like ee340230, that's all! Forget myopenid or others....Boghh : (
- Erhan Erdogan
Erhan: different web identities are certainly annoying. And the panic when your usual/preferred username is taken?
- Matt Harwood
Yes, I use it a lot, where I can - especially as my main blog is an OpenID provider
- Simon Bisson
from Alert Thingy
Loves @Matt: ee340230 will be given to me by Internet's government- members are; Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc... And it's a constant id matching with my profile. It seems possible. (exactly)
- Erhan Erdogan
I use it for at least two cites I generally use. The identities can cause problems, and some sites ask for a specific userid length which may not be compatible with your ID. I also find that that Diigo kicks me out of the site after a few minutes when I'm using OpenID
- Steve Lynch
from Alert Thingy
I've been moving in the direction of OpenID because of the support on Basecamp. Much easier way to handle multiple accounts. I haven't used it yet, though.
- lilbyrdie
@Matt: an addition, think facebook. Nearly all of your friends have a fb account, and all of web users may have an account like ee340230.w3.org. Matching with a constant id not with a user name. It will be a standart like this. But web needs an election for a real web government - Secretary of State for Treasury should be Arrington, and like this...etc. :D
- Erhan Erdogan
I would use it all the time if 1) more sites offered the option. 2) I could *easily* be my own provider like @Simon.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I used to use OpenID to log into my blog, but then I discovered the ScribeFire extension for FireFox- blog from right within FF without logging into Wordpress! Hit F8 and start typing...it's that easy! The idea behind OpenID is powerfully attractive- not to mention logical too! One day we'll all be laughing when we remember how we used a separate login ID and password for each of the various sites we used to visit!
- Siddharth Deb
I wish more systems had openID, I use it anywhere I can makes my life so much easier. Eventually someone is gonna make an app that its sole purpose is to scour the web, and remind you where and what were all the places you signed up for stuff, then report back, inform you of all your ids, and fold them into some openid setup.
- Dan Rockwell
from twhirl
I tried it for a while but was never comfortable with it.
- Russellreno
I have an OpenID, and I use it when given the option, but not enough sites allow OpenID for it to actually be useful.
- Louis Bourque
nope .. not interested in it in anyway
- Steven Hodson
I already have an OpenID because of Livejournal. I use it at any website that supports it.
- Morton Fox
I love OpenID. I hope everyservice will support it in the long term.
- funkyboy
I suspect OpenID will become more useful when paired with data portability functionality. I read this quote the other day "Ultimately, Data Portability is to the Centralized Me (all your stuff) as OpenID is to identity (your literal identity)" here: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008... and it seemed to explain a lot.
- John Tynan
I use OpenID. And friends of mine do too, so they can read my LJ.
- Araceli
I use OpenID whenever I can - I use MyOpenID with SSL certificates, so no passwords to remember. I prefer it to passwords, especially the way it auto fills in my photo, interests, location etc.
- Rich
I think item one is the whole point of social. You _want_ that out there. Item 2 is curious. Do your friends want you sharing their emails? If they make them available to you, is that implied? I'm not sure. It's that "friend" vs "contact" distinction that I like about Flickr. I know what my friends will do with my information and since they are my friends they should trust my other...
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- lilbyrdie
almost totally agree with lilbyrdies comments - succinct.
- viki saigal
I have to really read and digest this later. I'd like to check out the actual audio fo the Gilmore Gang, too. My first glance at Scoble's blog posting really gave me a lot to chew on. I think I agree with both Scoble and Arrington.
- ha3rvey (needs soup)