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Is there threading here? Or do I just keep posting like this?
MiniMage TKDteacher of FF, Myrna, (jeff)isageek and 32 other people liked this
Comment!
- Michael McKean
like this?
- Guy Kawasaki
Right!
- Stephen Pickering
You got it
- BairdWilliamson
Yup!
- Michael McKean
No, the other way ;)
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Then the convo stays put
- BairdWilliamson
get the bookmarklet in your browser
- Robert Higgins
Click comment. Or call me +1-425-205-1921
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Welcome to interaction. :-)
- Jason Huebel
with the bookmarklet you can easily add images and comments
- Robert Higgins
But there's no threading? What if I want to respond to a specific comment?
- Guy Kawasaki
"It's just turtles all the way down." - or else there's @...
- Extreme Arts & Sciences
Guy: no threading beyond one level. Just include that person's name in your comment.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Can you imagine threading on here? The screen would have to be a mile wide
- Stephen Pickering
@Guy, like this.
- Jason Huebel
Extreme Arts: No no, please no @. start with names
- sean andersen
Can I start spamming yet? Go to: http://frienderati.alltop.com/
- Guy Kawasaki
You can get notification of comments thru FF notifier
- BairdWilliamson
As long as the conversation doesn't go beyond a half dozen lines you are ok. Beyond that it becomes like the Wild West. Welcome to the FF Saloon.
- Jack B
Guy: no threading like you mean, but still a damn sight better than Twitter for actual conversation :)
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
So this is like CompuServe in the old days! De ja vu vu
- Guy Kawasaki
and click comment when you see that you get taken to that thread
- BairdWilliamson
it's like IRC but without an op (unless you count Scoble ;)
- jacek
Guy: except no outrageous charges! And it is faster. Oh and try to post a video here!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Guy: We just need the green screen Theme.
- sean andersen
I mean this in the best possible way: you might want to check out the FriendFeed for Beginners group http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, you think a man of my stature would join any beginners group? You're kidding, right? :-)
- Guy Kawasaki
Sean: Fair enough. :)
- Extreme Arts & Sciences
Is there a FF Suggested Follower List for celebs, investors, and sickophants?
- Guy Kawasaki
Lets ask Bret Taylor to add the green screen or gmail's "Terminal" theme, it's better than duck hunt.
- sean andersen
Yes...and you're on it. :)
- Alex Scoble
I didn't say join, I said "check out". You can go in, read up, and slip away and no one will be any the wiser. Especially since you've said you won't do it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Ha! n00b!
- Michael McKean
Welcome back
- michael sean wright
from iPod
Is there a follow count or something? How does one know one has arrived in FF?
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy: Call Scoble and ask!
- sean andersen
Guy, I think you can safely assume you have arrived.
- Extreme Arts & Sciences
Guy: call me I will give you a tour!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Click on your own name and it'll give you some numbers.
- Michael McKean
I can't call right now. I have to write a press release.
- Guy Kawasaki
Heh, Guy, call my brother or call me 503-720-5791 and I'll run you around friendfeed
- Alex Scoble
I will write your press release and give you a brief tour.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I have 11,353 subscribers. Is that good?
- Guy Kawasaki
It is my policy to unfollow those who don't know how to use social media... ;-)
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Robert please disable his option to post the likes to Twitter :-)))
- Johni Fisher
yes!
- Lim Chee Aun
Guy: I have 45,000.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I love that someone with 18 followers just unfollowed me because she thinks I don't know how to use social media...
- Robert Higgins
Robert: The 2 of you have to meetup at FF's office with Bret & film it!
- sean andersen
Robert: why don' t you just blog about this for me? http://adjix.com/tj9t Then I can stay here.
- Guy Kawasaki
ROFL, this is awesome.
- Alex Scoble
You're smart and FF isn't that complicated. You can figure it out by poking around for a few minutes.
- Chris Spizzirri
Indio, 11,352 then. :-)
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy: what is a blog? :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
How do I collapse a conversation? Or is FF just a way to sell more 30 inch monitors?
- Guy Kawasaki
get all your links like flickr, if you fave a picture it will update
- Robert Higgins
Guy: yes. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
You reload friendfeed, Guy.
- Alex Scoble
Guy: just call me. It will be easier. :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Also use this https://friendfeed.com/... to see 100 items at a time
- Alex Scoble
Call me...it will be more fun...for me. ;)
- Alex Scoble
It should auto-collapse without reload.
- Chris Spizzirri
Okay I'll call. Which Scoble, though?
- Guy Kawasaki
+1-425-205-1921
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
uh oh..
- BairdWilliamson
Oh boy...
- Michael McKean
LOL start a poll thread!
- Alex Scoble
Alex is smarter. I have more followers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Alex for me. :)
- Oğuz Serdar
I'm more active!
- Alex Scoble
I vote Alex.
- Chris Spizzirri
Good grief, do we really have the Scoble brothers fighting over who gets to show Guy around FF?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
ROFLMAO! This is more hilarious than 30 Rock...and that's saying something.
- Alex Scoble
likes
- Robert Higgins
Tina: it is not the first time we have been competitive.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, could you make a video of the call? ;-)
- talalash
Geez I think this almost broke my googletalk notifier :D
- BairdWilliamson
If you call me, it will be off the record :)
- Alex Scoble
I will vote for Alex Scoble if Guy promises to tell him DLP's sucked.
- Geoff Schultz
Does qik overlay friendfeed comments on live video yet?
- Charbax
Hay it's like a Sith lord showing a Jedi "the way" ;)
- sean andersen
Tip #1..."Like" everything you see :)
- Alex Scoble
Robert: that doesn't particularly surprise me =) Here's a *crazy* thought: conference call. Two Scobles and Guy.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think Guy'll be bored with FF. It's not his style.
- Oğuz Serdar
If you build it they will come. Nice to see you here!
- Michael Fidler
Naw, that would be extremely counterproductive for Guy.
- Alex Scoble
Too funny! Are we all a part of history now?
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Notifications sound like a pin-ball machine!
- BairdWilliamson
Yeah a conf call would be cool. Mute all but the Scobles and Guy, so something productive might come out of it =)
- talalash
Nice talking with you Guy!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Booo!
- Alex Scoble
I demand a recount!
- Alex Scoble
Thanks for the help. I don't know if I can handle all this action. It's going to be hockey or FF.
- Guy Kawasaki
Is there a "Tweetdeck" of FF?
- Guy Kawasaki
Hehe, Guy, yeah, you can lose a lot of time on friendfeed.
- Alex Scoble
think Alert Thingy works with FF. don't know if it's any good. never used.
- Kevin Arth
nope, but Nambu has been promising support soon.
- sean andersen
You don't need need Tweetdeck.... You can make sub groups to keep down the clutter.
- Ben Hanten
But don't forget to install the "friendfeed notifier" http://friendfeed.com/setting...
- sean andersen
feedalizr?
- Oğuz Serdar
The bookmarklet is key, you can add images easily. But Guy you should also see how tight Google Reader, All Top, Firefox and the Feedly stack is. Beautiful Friendfeed saweetness
- Robert Higgins
Holden: test me
- Guy Kawasaki
What bookmarklet?
- Guy Kawasaki
Hold on let me find it
- Robert Higgins
bookmarklet: http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Kevin Arth
This thread deserves more than one like.
- Ben Hanten
Holden: I was just about to bet you something
- Guy Kawasaki
test, how? @guy http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Oğuz Serdar
http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Robert Higgins
Oh man, you have so much to learn about me, Holden.
- Guy Kawasaki
Hey Guy! So good to see you on FriendFeed!
- Jesse Stay
If Twitter is a time sink, FF is a swimming pool. Holy kaw!
- Guy Kawasaki
indeed
- Robert Higgins
Holden, my ghosts get as many or more click throughs than me.
- Guy Kawasaki
you can embed this thread in your page
- Robert Higgins
Guy...that is the best comparison of friendfeed vs twitter ever.
- Alex Scoble
Let's call this the "endless" lap pool!
- sean andersen
Guy, check out how I use FriendFeed. You may find this method a little more productive: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
i have been meaning to blog on the velocity of information. Compare a few different Freindfeed topics next to each other to see which knowledge is flowing fastest
- Robert Higgins
Alex, I am the Man, after all
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy-Did you try out the combined comment and outgoing twitter response yet ?
- BairdWilliamson
Holden, do you think Ralph Lauren designed your shirt? :-)
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy, Here's a consolidated list from Louis Gray & Mike Fruchter from their monthly post ;. Louis Gray "Ten to Follow" on FriendFeed http://bit.ly/1QCYOF It needs to be updated with this month's recommendations which are here http://ff.im/5Kepu
- Michael Fidler
I'm with you Holden. It's completely different.
- Ben Hanten
So when Guy starts using FriendFeed does that mean it's hit a tipping point? ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Holden, sure looks like he's using it to me.
- Jesse Stay
Philadelphia Eagles? Seriously? :*(
- Geoff Schultz
When my ghosts start using it, it's tipped. :-)
- Guy Kawasaki
Guy ROFL :-)
- Jesse Stay
Honestly, I don't know how I got those subscriptions...
- Guy Kawasaki
Yeah what ever, your secrets out.
- Geoff Schultz
Twitter, Guy...that's the reason.
- Alex Scoble
Holden, if FriendFeed stays interesting I'm confident he will. Guy's a smart "guy".
- Jesse Stay
Guy, follow me so I can show you how DM works and how it's so much better than Twitter's
- Jesse Stay
Okay, got to go. Watching George Lopez, and I can't keep all the jokes here and on the show straight.
- Guy Kawasaki
Subscribing to you now, Guy.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ok everyone outta the pool! ;)
- BairdWilliamson
Guy, are all of your comments going out to twitter right now?
- Michael Fidler
Ahhh doodie in the pool! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- sean andersen
It's very smooth. Threading would be messy, as you know.
- Louis Gray
But you keep your content and discussions centralized, rather than having to rely on Mentions and search terms like Twitter does.
- Louis Gray
Lets get serious here for a second. Guy, whats it going to be Helvetica, Steampunk, or going back to Twitter?
- Geoff Schultz
Guy is a guy with taste...He'll go with Orion.
- Alex Scoble
guy: "Can I start spamming yet?" welcome to friendfray. ;)
- motownmutt
Orion? You must mean BAD TASTE then!
- Geoff Schultz
No, the theme for bad taste in the dictionary is Steampunk...The theme for "staid" and "boring" in the dictionary would be Helvetica. Since guy is none of the above he must go with Orion. Although I could see him as a fun-loving Duck Hunt fan.
- Alex Scoble
haha great to see you here
- Yiğit Arda Türkoğlu
Says the dude that went to bed spooning Blue Wave!
- Geoff Schultz
I haven't seen Alex this excited since he defended "irregardless".
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
hehe, let's not get into that again, Josh!
- WorldofHiglet
...though I'm already thinking about the Moment Of Win....
- WorldofHiglet
irregardless, and unloosen, nails/chalkboard...
- motownmutt
Unloosen? ROFLMAO!
- Alex Scoble
Unloosen - that's not unpossible. It's not like 'tight slack' or anything. <--- note that 'tight slacks' plural is fine. If you're a hipster.
- Micah Wittman
Its like watching Four Horseman of FriendFeed ;)
- Jacque
This looks something like what was going on in my head.. I did register in FF some time ago, but today thought I'd pop in and see what to do with this. :)
- Karri Anttila
Thanks everyone for a great initiation of Guy Kawasaki on FriendFeed
- Keith Rowland
Look at the mind as a function of matter and you have science; look at matter as the product of the mind and you have religion. -Nisargadatta
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
is 3G S sold in HK yet? You can sign up here, but must wait until August 19
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Alaska Gov Palin on Facebook suggests that she has bigger plans and a national agenda she planned to push after she resigns.
Aron Michalski, Nation Hahn, John Field and 4 other people liked this
she's out of her mind.
- Mike White
Oh noes!
- Phillip Stewart
She is dreaming of becoming a female George W
- Clive Sinclair
from iPhone
She's destined to be on Fox.
- Robert Scoble
i think she might co-anchor with nancy grace.
- Jim Halligan @jim
She could play bridge (to nowhere) with Glenn Beck, Nancy Grace and Sean Hannity.
- Aron Michalski
She's going to take over for El Rushbo when he keels over.....or she'll become a Libertarian and start her own radio show...either way I could care less, she's just another idiotic politician
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Aron, which one of those is the dummy? ;-)
- Karoli
Jim: Palin and Nancy Grace? Jebus shit... talk about "nails on a chalk board." My head would burst...
- Christopher A Carr
She's going to get paid to do GOP fundraisers while pimping her book, or some such thing, I would suppose. Her current situation is insufficiently lucrative.
- Christopher A Carr
Christopher: I am hoping for a Nancy Grace spot to promote her new book or such. Best thing that could ever happen. Those two are meant for each other.
- Jim Halligan @jim
I still think the Palin/McKinney ticket has legs...crazy legs.
- Aron Michalski
I live in Tokyo, so I am I getting this in Japanese.. Is Palin now Governor of Facebook?
- Robert Higgins
I'm in Nagoya, it's all in English and I think it said something about gumdrops and lollypops.
- Aron Michalski
A) The woman has a voice that could strip paint. B) When she does talk, she has NO earthly idea what in the hell she's saying. ....actually, that would be a shoo-in for cable news, now that I think about it....
- Kris Roley
OK now we have an explanation. She wants to save Alaska the money they're spending on all the ethics investigations. :loco: You. Just. Can't. Make. This. Shit. Up! I know some of you don't believe me, go look it up and come back to this thread. Fox and the WSJ are lining up behind this with a full court press. Honestly how can these people look themselves in the mirror, how can any...
more...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
What frightens me most about Palin isn't Palin. It's the incredibly short memory of the public at large. Even with everything she's said, done, hasn't done, will do...there will be people out there who hunger to hear the drivel she spews and forget the rest.
- Karoli
Karoli - my fiancee and I had this same conversation today, and its more than just a bit frightening. That said, I'm optimistic that the US hasn't fallen so far from sanity that a majority would deem her an effective leader. I think the worst damage she can do is that which she excelled at during the election - spreading vitriol and hatred. Whatever its meaning, her next "calling" can't be good.
- jcunwired
jcunwired: I hope you're right. I also hope that sovereignjohn's comments above were intended as sardonic humor, because it is precisely this idea that she is on a 'mission from God' that frightens me most. The God I know would most certainly not approve.
- Karoli
The very idea of god itself is plain fraud and if someone claims that he/she is sent by god, it freaks the hell out of me.
- Krishnan Subramanian
Palin Bush 2012
- Robert Higgins
Maybe we should start a website with all those who TechCrunch is feuding with whose products they won't cover. Might be very interesting.
Kris Roley, Adam C., Mark and Mel Buckpitt liked this
Can any of you remember the company that Won TC50 last year without looking? I can't name it. Wasn't it a twitter clone?
- Mark
yammer. twitter for business (internal).
- Laura Norvig
I'd guess Yammer but don't know, just based on your guess Mark.
- Zachary Poley
from twhirl
How did it work out?
- Mark
Also, since this is a TC thread, competitor to CrunchPad? http://bit.ly/CAMUn
- Mark
I use Yammer and like it. No idea whether they're making any money. :)
- Robert Lowe
from Android
I like this idea. So should I start coding now?
- Adam C.
So which companies would be on that list? last.fm obviously (Did TC ever follow up on those 'privacy leak' allegations with something approaching truth yet?) Who else?
- Andy Bold
a "Salon des Refusés"
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
@jtesnani : No they both had it last sept. But both in HK and TW, iPhone are hell expensive (between 20 and 24K$TW)
TW will have 3GS on August 9 I hear. 5500HKD is OK because the phone us unlocked. But if 20000NTD TW iPhone is not unlocked and requires a 2 year contract, then that is hella expensive
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
in Air France lounge in Barcelona, 6AM here, then SF via Paris
Do you use dopplr?
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Lifehacker- Windows 7 vs. Mac OS X Leopard: The Show Down - http://lifehacker.com/5277207...
Keith Bourgoin, Nicholas James, Sardar Mohkim Khan and 5 other people liked this
Wow a reasonable fair comparison, who knew.
- Chris Patterson
I do not own a Mac and what I see here does not persuade me to buy one. Nice job and thank you!
- John Apps
A fair comparison is Snow Leopard vs. Windows 7, both are claimed to release in October
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
What I'd like to see is the comparison 6 months after the release, when the Mac is still running solid as a rock and Windows keeps crashing, has viruses, is unstable...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
sfollmer: c'mon, vista and w7 are very very stable, and if you don't manually infect your pc, it isn't likely to catch a virus by itself. There were problems with XP, I have to admit.
- Kirill Petrovsky
The best I can do is point out that you have not tried Leopard. And I have not tried Windows since XP. Unless you or I try the other, its just spin and hot air.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
sfollmer: I'm afraid I have to agree with donor. After 3 years with Macs I've gone back to Vista/Win7 after getting sick of buggy drivers and several HFS+ corruptions. Also my experience with Apple hardware in general in a University environment hasn't been good (over 33% of the machine we've brought have had some sort of hardware/software defect leading to loss of features, while the Dell machines have a failure rate of about <1%).
- Russ
There is no "Show Down".
- Johnny
The girl next too me is amazingly beautiful but she looks so sharp
Ask her "do you really think those shoes match your dress??"
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
RT @mrskutcher 90 people get swine flu & everybody wants 2wear surgical masks. 1 mill people have AIDS & nobody wants 2wear a condom
Tierre Brundige, Desiree Diva Hackett, Adam Hansen and 14 other people liked this
She was retweeting http://twitter.com/jordanm...
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
33 million people have AIDS. http://www.avert.org/worldst... with 25 million dead so far. At least.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Hit the nail right on the head!!!
- Jose Luis Santos
The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists - http://edition.cnn.com/2009...?
WWJD?
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
WSJ: "Swine flu has presented the Obama administration with its first major public-health crisis. Fortunately for the Obama team, the Bush administration developed new tools that will prove critical in meeting this challenge." Nice try WSJ, but you're not going to win any Pulitzer prize that way...
God bless the Bush administration. i think we tortured the sars virus and got valuable information that has prevented other flus...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Court declares Franken winner; Coleman to appeal. http://www.startribune.com/politic...
Brian, John (a.k.a. dendroica), William Harryman and 7 other people liked this
Coleman remains a typical poor-loser Republican. No class.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Maybe Franken can use the extra time to finish the draft for "Rush Limbaugh is Still a Big Fat Idiot Pill-Head"
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Coleman should concede, to begin the healing process, of course. http://hometownsource.com/index...
- Bruce Lewis
Will this be decided before the campaigning begins for the next term?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I think that Gore might have been president if he hadn't conceded so quickly in 2000.
- Robert Felty
One word only. Name one of your weaknesses.
J. Abdul-Qahhar, Jorg Jansen, Darren Heydon and 50 other people liked this
Cigarettes
- Mike Fruchter
bandwidth
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Apple stores.
- Robert Scoble
Optimism
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Candy.
- Sprague D
surveys
- Kevin Johnson
FriendFeed :)
- Susan Beebe
Internet.
- Admiral Anika
Internet.
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- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Brevity
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Caffeine.
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bullets
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Kryptonite
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gummy bears
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wimminz
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Fries
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Chocolate!
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Strays
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knee.
- vijay
Redheads.
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Naps
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from fftogo
friendfeed
- Alex Scoble
B(o)(o)B's
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BlackBerry.
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men
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*fist bumps Erin*
- Derrick
*fist bumps Derrick*
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cake
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from twhirl
invisibility
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Indecision
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************
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Moi -[
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rum
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My Kids
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smoking
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kittens.
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roses
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coffee
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procrastination
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Chocolate
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Recliners
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- Indio Apache
from twhirl
entropy
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from twhirl
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- Sharron Field
from twhirl
<censored>
- Pete Delucchi
'Sorry: That was more then 1 word: I was using artistic licence.
- Sharron Field
from twhirl
Smoking
- Iván Abrego
Sleep.
- Chris Thomson
Internet
- Krishnamoorthy
Wang.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
strawberries
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coffee
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Hips
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from twhirl
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Trish
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bacon
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- ::Kristen::
indecision
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from twhirl
Mac
- TheHenry
An inability to state things in one word. Word.
- Todd Hoff
Women
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from twhirl
women
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internet
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Priority
- Abdullah Cetin CAVDAR
Judge-y
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Naturalbeauty
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- Indio Apache
from twhirl
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Women
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procrastination
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Women.
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from twhirl
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from twhirl
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metheworldness
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from twhirl
Chocolate
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
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Thinking.
- Rui Pereira
cuddling, maybe? :P
- mjc
Naming things in one word
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Escapism
- Robert
Spellink
- Robert Hafer
I will name it "Susan"
- Scott Loganbill
Comma use
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presenting
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
Tatsumakisenpuukyaku.
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Patience.
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Toolazytocomment
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women
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polls ;-)
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Monkeys
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Lactose
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gadgets
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Electronics
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internet
- Bindu Reddy
Procrastination.
- Joey Gibson
Obsession
- Stan Scott
Dolls.
- Anthony Citrano
+5 Anthony.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Capitalization
- Scott Lockhart
Reading
- kamla bhatt
information
- Kevin Fox
Love.
- nakachi
connectivity
- Fa La La La Lindsay
patience
- Steve Lacey
Reliance.
- Louis Gray
suck
- j1m
Procrastination.
- Alexander Kucera
Shy.
- Kol Tregaskes
Piracy.
- bnoise
Distractions
- Mark Krynsky
Other
- C (dubya)
Sorry Mike ... Saw this Monday ... still workin' on it :)
- Charlie Anzman
Concentra... what was the question?
- Jorg Jansen
Maryam needs a new car. Which should she get? Toyota Sienna/minivan or a Honda Pilot? Anything else in this class we should consider?
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CarTalk Guys always gush over the Forester
- Matthew DeVries
Most important to us? We have five members of our family. Actually six, since Maryam's mom lives with us. So we need a big car now to take us all around. Also important? Resale value. Gas mileage. Reliability. Ratings on Consumer Reports, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Mt want to look at Toyota Highlander. Believe it gives good gas mileage.
- kamla bhatt
Matthew: does the Forrester seat six?
- Robert Scoble
kamla: Highlander not big enough. My ex had one of those.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: Japanese brands typically have better resale and better reliability.
- Robert Scoble
Pilot or Honda Odessey
- fijidaddy
After our minivan era, we (my wife) got a Pacifica. I like it better than the Pilot/other crossovers. A little more power (mercedes engine) and plenty roomy for us (w/2 children).
- Jim Mitchem
Are you going to use it as a ski car?
- Christian Anderson
Forrester seats 5.
- Jordan Hofker
I would stick with minivans. They are easier to drive and comes with great perks that would be great for a family of six or larger.
- Shevonne
Christian: we go up to Tahoe once in a while.
- Robert Scoble
Honda Pilot.
- Russellreno
The Pilot. But I'm a Honda fangirl, since my family has had umpteen Hondas/Acuras, and they've all run up to 200k miles and more with no serious issues.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Really? A Minivan? The Mazda CX-7 & CX-9 are supposed to be great cars and can fit up to 7 (on the CX-9). But if you don't need that many people in the car, consider getting a wagon from VW, Audi, or BMW. The 328 Sports wagon gets 27 mpg and is one fun car/wagon to drive. I know... I owned one before I moved to NYC.
- Christopher Gizzi
I just went through this. I wanted a more regular ski car and didn't need to schlep quite so many bodies so we picked up a Nissan xterra. An awd mini van might work better for y'all
- Christian Anderson
Been there recently.. Nissan Murano.. really a great car. [Edit: but it's not that big. Toyota Highlander would probably be better for you]
- Aviv
actually, if you need a car that large the Buick Enclave is HANDS DOWN the nicest new people mover out. and Mr. Scoble... the VW Routan is actually a variation on the best selling minivan ever, the Crysler Town&Country.
- glen green
The Toyota Sienna is the Blue-Ray HD version of a Camry, so one cannot go wrong in getting one. Ours has made clicking kids into their seats much easier on my wife's and my noggin while avoiding the head bumps:)
- Roney Smith
How many cubic feet of people do you have? The Infiniti FX hold 102.5 cubic feet
- Matthew DeVries
The Subaru Forrester is the most popular car among English aristocracy, according to Top Gear (season 3, episode 3). It's doesn't attract attention, can go anywhere, carries a lot, and lasts so long that they pass it on to their children.
- Jayson Elliot
The Forrester Is way too small. It's in the same class as the hylander
- Christian Anderson
Robert, I have as much faith that you'll be able to keep the money rolling in during this economy, but Hyanudai does have that special going where if you lose your job, they'll forgive payments, and if you still don't have a job, they'll let you give the car back.
- Matthew DeVries
Jayson: the Subaru isn't big enough. Thanks!
- Robert Scoble
Matthew: that's pretty cool, but I like Japanese cars. Toyota has treated several branches of our family very well and Alex has a Honda that's great.
- Robert Scoble
You might want to also check out the Mazda 5. My friend Chris just got one and it gets decent gas mileage, is apparently fairly well regarded on CR and is quite a bit cheaper than a Pilot. You might have to get passed the shape though. I think Chris got his with two rear LCD screens for like $23k.
- Alex Scoble
Two relatively new Nissan's in the family. Nothing but RAVES from here ...
- Charlie Anzman
I looked at the 4runner pretty closely when I was looking. It has third row seating that is pretty accessible
- Christian Anderson
We ended up getting a Volvo XC90 (1 kids is 10, one kid is 7 and uses the built in booster seat, and one is 2 and a half and has a Brittax car seat - the absolute BEST car seat I've owned for any of our kids) because it was the ONLY car that could sit all three kids across the middle bench AND have room for 2 more in the third row. HOWEVER, we did extensive research on vans and really the only one that had the right mix of safety, reliability and technology was the Toyota Siena. Buy Toyota.
- Tim
Murano/CX-7/Odyssey are good choices (if you don't mind the ugly snout on the Murano). The Audi wagons are also good though will probably be too small. Toyota Avensis, Tarago are also good, but man are they slow :). Out of the left field suggestion: BMW X5 3.0D...
- Mo Kargas
If the Saturn Vue or (the bigger model - the name escapes me) is still using a Honda engine then you get the good engine without Honda price. I have an 05 Vue that essentially has the same engine as a Pilot. It's been a great car.
- AJ Kohn
When our twins were born, we got a Honda Odyssey because 1) we like Hondas and 2) they have the power sliding doors (actuated from keyfob) on both sides, making it easy to load two babies / small children even though our hands were full. Your young'uns are close enough in age that your situation isn't dissimilar. You should look into a Honda Odyssey or Toyota Sienna.
- Elden Nelson
On a related note, regardless of whatever you have currently, spend the money and buy both kids a Brittax marathon carseat as soon as they are heavier than 10 pounds. It is the best and safest seat on the market and it will be the last seat you buy for both kids until they are into seat only booster seats. Like our Bugaboo stroller, I wish I had bought the Brittax first.
- Tim
My wife and I would echo what Elden just said - our Odyssey has been fantastic.
- Micah Wittman
we love our sienna and it's lasted several years w/o major expense.
- MikeAmundsen
As my wife read these comments, she chimed in that the Chysler Town and Country was also our favorite. It has incredible features (the halo lights are amazing and would be tremendously useful on long trips), and it is a great handling car. Plus you get the added plus of buying American. Just make sure the warranty will still be something you can use if they go out of business...
- Tim
Don't know how you could feel good about buying a chrystler right now.
- Christian Anderson
I currently have a 2006 Toyota Sienna. It has been a great car to this point. Lease is up in a month and leaning towards the Pilot now that the kids can handle the doors on their own. A friend of mine just went from the 2006 to the 2009 Sienna and said the quality had dropped a notch or two. Minivan has better milage and easier access for all. Kind of nice when your hands are full of kids, groceries or camera gear to be able to push a button and open the doors.
- gfurry
Buy a minivan, Robert. Toyota, Honda... One of those. You'll be sorry if you don't.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
We had a Mazda5 in Switzerland and loved it. The US version is a bit more stripped down, but still is fun.
- Morton Swimmer
Mark: we are pretty sure we are going with a minivan.
- Robert Scoble
Are you looking new or used? The Ford Windstar/Freestar has been very good for us. I don't think Ford is selling those new any more though.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: new. Mark: although Leo has us thinking Highlander again.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, then I say go with Toyota. I've had very good experience with Toyota.
- Jesse Stay
Sienna. best Minivan hands down
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Yeah we replaced a 1999 Siena with the Highlander. The Siena has been a great car (it's now the kids' car).
- Leo Laporte
Can't go wrong with the Highlander, for sure. Just remember that when Leo's family was younger, as yours is now, the choice was a minivan.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
That's very true Mark - the Siena was an easier car for young kids. Especially if you get the automatic sliding door. We had it for 10 years.
- Leo Laporte
My mom has a highlander as her primary car. It was great toting around my 90 year old great Aunt. When I visit the West coast in May I'll use it for 2 weeks - I'll tell you how our family of 5 worked in it.
- Tim
try the honda minivan or the Ford Flex. The Flex is assume.
- Comptr
Personally I would go with the Honda Pilot. I've owned nothing by Hondas my entire life, quality has remained consistent from the 90's in my experience. I own a Pilot and (not sure how much this applies to people living in California) but it handles awesome in all weather, especially crazy snow. Tons of room, we have 2 dogs and it holds up to them easily. It rides INCREDIBLY smooth,...
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- Devlin Dunsmore
from twhirl
My mom has a Pilot that's about 5 years old. It still rides real smooth and we've never had problems with it. I'm very happy with Honda's and how durable they are. Don't know much about the other cars, but I don't think you can go wrong with the Pilot choice.
- Michael
Devlin: Toyota PR just contacted me on Twitter @SonaMoon said hi and offered her help if I needed anything.
- Robert Scoble
I'm renting a Nissan Sentra while my car is being repaired: DON'T GET ONE OF THOSE!! Awful car.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Hmm, interested that Toyota is actively watching Twitter - not suprised by definitely interested. I wonder if other manufacturers are watching this conversation
- Mo Kargas
Mo we know @ScottMonty from Ford does. So that's two.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
What about the Ford hybrid SUV?
- Karoli
do you need power or towing? then get SUV. want better MPG, get minivan. Sienna is the best minivan... SUV i would say Yukon XL, you can get a smoking deal on one right now.. and they have gobs of room, AWD for crap weather, and great power.
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I don't think you can go wrong with a Toyota or Honda. I love my Civic.
- Peter Warnock
My absolute favorite big family car is the Marathon (has a jump seat). But since they don't make 'em anymore, definitely go with the Toyota Siena.
- Marie Carnes
I think you should get a Tahoe since your a fan of that new Eminem track!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Hummer
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Can't help here - my advice is always "buy used" - I am a luddite in cars and only buy them used, and once I know which models can just keep going hassle free for years.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I´m with Nick. Volkswagen are great quality cars (and have the coolest in-dash Siemens manufactured media/HDD/navigation system which also counts in this day and age;)). I upgraded the firmware on the navi this weekend, and also have a CAN-BUS cable for general hacking of the car, the ultimate geek car:) I have the Touran Turbo-diesel which I guess is the Routan overseas in the US. VW FTW!
- Thomas Bøhm
VW Touran != Routan . Routan is a rebadged Chrysler and it is supposed to suck. The Touran is much better, but not sold in the US.
- Morton Swimmer
VW makes great quality cars? When I bought my Jetta in 2001 that was definitely not true. After the fact I read the Consumer Reports guide that showed VW having terrible quality problems, should have read it before buying the car. Have things improved greatly at VW since 2001?
- DGentry
I do like me some Subaru... the Forester is great, as is the Tribeca
- Lou
Our '03 Odyssey is a great vehicle. I don't care for minivans or SUV's, but if I had to choose one or the other (as I did six years ago), I'd go for a minivan: they're more versatile, usually seat more, and get better mileage than a comparable SUV.
- Steve Lowe
POWER SLIDING DOORS! I swallowed my man pride once I had kids for this luxury alone.
- Chris McLean
Chris: funny enough I see the practicality of this. My wife is the one resisting the mini-van thing. I think she's finally coming around, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I love my Honda Pilot
- andy brudtkuhl
If you don't need the third row seats, really consider the Honda CR-V. Very utilitarian with much better gas mileage. If the third row is a necessity and you really want a people mover, Odyssey is hard to top.
- Mark Philpot
Mark: yeah, I need the third row.
- Robert Scoble
I have a Forester and I like it, but it's definitely too small for what you need.
- Nathan Rein
We like our Ford Expedition Limited. Really like the auto fold down 3rd row seats. Only get about 18 mpg though...
- J.D. Deutschendorf
Of those two, Honda Pilot. No two ways.
- Parth Awasthi
Of those two, Toyota Sienna. No two ways.
- Ken Sheppardson
Honda Pilot was redesigned for 09.It get's my vote. I would take the MDX over the pilot though
- Gordon Ebanks
I'm on my third Dodge minivan (drove the first 14 years, second was hit my a truck) They don't get the mpg of the motorized rollerskates, but you can seat 6 comfortably and fold down seats for cargo. Very servicable.
- Robert Hafer
Go with the minivan. She'll never regret the amount of space. It's easier to maneuver to around inside, and we were able to fit a full size couch with the door shut in our minivan. You'd never be able to accomplish that with an SUV like the Pilot.
- Mike Bruder
I'm a little late to the party here but to me there is no question; go with the Sienna. We're on our second and will likely be getting another when our lease expires later this year. It gets better gas mileage than any other mini-van or SUV and has way more room than anything but the giant SUV's. It's comfortable and reliable and if you want you can get it in AWD (with a loss of 1 or 2 mpg).
- Kenton
Another thing to that I like about a minvan is sliding doors. No matter how hard the kids swing them open in a crowded parking lot they can't hit the car next to us. I can't say the same about my other car.
- gfurry
gfurry, very good point. We just recently replaced a two-door car with a 4-door hatch. I've lost track of the number of near misses or thumps into the posts of our carport. All the kids want to do is get out of the car as fast as they can.
- Kenton
Volkswagen has a new diesel engine that not only burns bio-fuel but gets more than 60 mpg. Don't know if they offer it on the van, but the campers are cool.
- Phil Boiarski
Volkswagen and others have lots of great diesel engines. For some reason they only share a couple of them with us in America. Why can't I buy a VW Van with a diesel in the US?
- gfurry
Love my Honda Odyssey. Toyota wanted to nickel & dime me with options (want *two* sliding doors? That'll be $$ please, thanks!) and wouldn't remove the ugly fake wood detail work. No thanks!
- Don MacAskill
Robert - If anything says you belong in a Routan, turn on your TV (or watch you Tivo'd ep of How I Met Your Mother from tonight) and watch the new Routan commercial. The little kid in the car seat looks like Milan. It's meant to be.
- Matthew DeVries
Toyota Sienna is a fantastic vehicle. We've had two in a row, with the last one being acquired last year. We bought it because we wanted AWD, but you'd do well with either this or the Honda minivan. Incidentally, with two infants - having auto opening and sliding doors is a big advantage to getting a minivan.
- David Geller
We have had two Toyota Siennas ... great vehicles and good seating options, auto doors, and easy to break down the seats for hauling big stuff around as a mini-moving van
- Steve Holden
Twitter is Peaking - http://www.micropersuasion.com/2009...
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TwitterBait. But I couldn't resist anyway.
- Robert Scoble
But disagree that's it's peak is near, I'd predict strong growth for a while still
- sofarsoShawn
sofaroshawn: yeah, I disagree with that too, but it's fun to test that theory. I do notice that lots of users who are coming lately don't engage. It will be interesting to see how Twitter does with a mainstream audience that uses it less than the geeks did.
- Robert Scoble
The early adopter wave may be peaking, but the Twitter itself is far from peaking. The mainstream masses are just beginning to hear and evaluate Twitter and a small trickle may be appearing. So the ride is far from being over:)
- Roney Smith
im a lil worried about all the spammers/advertisers/people who just push out tweets w/ no interactions, personality, etc....add in the new FB changes. the race will be interesting.
- stanleyyork
I don't think Twitter's growth will slow (though I'm not sure if it actually will be 1300% over a year, could be little lower) but there are some good points made in the article. For me Twitter is just *one* network, with its own peculiarities... I think the market can sustain a lot of networks side by side. In particular, because none of the big networks (Facebook, Twitter, FF) support faceted identities, people may like to use each network for different purposes. I'm on all three.
- Meryn Stol
more celebrities, more buzz, more users
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
LOL someone already retweeted this via scobelizer & looking at his stream what a tard, I just unfollowed him
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, re "TwitterBait": I think posting this would get you killed on Twitter. :P
- Meryn Stol
peaked for me awhile ago - still have acct but don't push to it anywhere and interact there via ff, the poor tech platform is primary reason
- mike "glemak" dunn
I worry about Spam too. My email notifiers are disappointing every day because of it. I see a new follower and think "Please be a real person, like me without 17k already followed." We need the capability of settings with more sophistication like Myspace and/or Facebook. I love Tweetdeck too and can't Twitter without it. I just hope Twitter gets these things in place soon or even though there is growth, the quality of who uses Twitter is going to decline.
- mrsha
Its like Peak Oil. Peak Twitter. Its all downhill from here... time is short on this fatally troubled planet...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I get spammed almost every day and get followed by others who rarely interact. What bothers me is when a person follows thousands and is being followed by as many, they rarely interact with you anymore. I mean, how can anyone keep up with that many people. To some, its a numbers game; for me, I like social interaction and if I feel ignored, i'll move on. I do like the exchange of information but I find a lot of pretentiousness on twitter.
- Tommy Lane
Twitter jumped the shark when marketers and spammers (different?) discovered it.
- Stephen Pierzchala
Twitter peaked six months ago and now the momentum comes from those who are new to the service, but far less engaged.
- Richard A.
perhaps predicting Twitter's peak doesn't work in the same way as other social networks from past and present, as Twitter is more of a platform than any other network ever was/is. I don't think Twitter as a platform has peaked: see how many apps and dev is going on. The peak for Twitter will be when the flow of new and improved Twitter apps will be declining...
- Mathieu Ayel
I think I will use Friendfeed more and more in the future, e.g. as a forum for my podcasting show. I think Ev will come up with something bright regarding Twitter. He was the co-founder of Blogger. I am using Twitter as a journal for remembering good things that are happening in my life. I mark these tweets with a hashtag #GoodThing so I could search on it later on.
- Martin Lindeskog
Peaking...I don't think so. Going into Phase 2? I just worried what Google will do with it.
- John Flynn
Twitter may not be peaking, but changing into something else other than what the developers originally had planned. I still see growth for Twitter as long as they listen to their users. At Blellow.com we're much more involved in the community as we use the site for the same purposes as our users: to find work. The organization by Groups was just an obvious necessity.
- Blellow!
It's actually Friendfeed which is peaking: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- sofarsoShawn
Well, the rate of increase is still increasing itself, so I don't think there's a peak. Assume growth follows an S-shape curve - we're not even close to peaking.
- Mike Reynolds
of course ff hasn't peaked shawn but that thread definitely should convince lindsey to stick around ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I think they should rename AIG to BAB for Bad Ass Bitche. With an accent grave over ze E. European flair with a bit of LA driveby.
tread lightly! we wouldn't want Wall Street or AIG to throw another hissy fit!
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
hey, they get their money the old fashioned way... they EARN it... maybe that should be... they STEAL it...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I love how they say "oh, we have to pay these guys big bonuses or we'll lose them. To whom exactly? There are no jobs for these losers. Maybe they could work for Mr. Madoff or Mr.Stanford?
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
It's funny. I'm unemployed this week and I'm working harder than ever. Looking forward to my new project (aka job), starts on Monday!
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We will announce what it is on Saturday on Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
That's because being employed is easier than being unemployed, everyone knows that :-), that's why people stay employed if possible.
- Richard A.
Cool—can't wait to hear about it.
- Mistletoe Glen
you finally have the time to do what you wanted to do, at the same time.
- Richard A.
Uploaded two videos yesterday, a third being uploaded right now. Did eight interviews yesterday, along with had breakfast with Kleiner Perkins. Today up at 6:15 to try to catch up with email. Whew! I need a vacation! ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Good stuff, least you're keeping yourself busy, better than some people manage to do. Looking forward to hearing about the new venture.
- Simon Wicks
I'm trying to read tea leaves in your various FriendFeed posts Robert. Hmm...I'm thinking something with Likes, friends, influence, early trend detection...but then I may be way off and will just have to find out Saturday like everyone else.
- Hutch Carpenter
Richard: bing! My life is 10x more creative lately because I'm doing what I want, not what someone else wants me to do. That's a key attribute to a happy life. It's hard to achieve, though.
- Robert Scoble
It is the nature of the beast - work and life melt together!
- Julie Anderson
now i'm getting friend feed
- andrewkeen
It's hard but many of those we're following on twitter and friendfeed have achieved this to some degree.
- Richard A.
Hutch: actually I did leave some hints in friendfeed, but not explicit ones. When you hear the announcement on Saturday you'll be able to do a search and figure it all out.
- Robert Scoble
BUM! Taking up all our tax dollars.
- sofarsoShawn
Glad you got a new gig lined up Robert. Congrats!
- Josh Haley
@Robert: i love your sense of adventure. looking forward to learning more about the 'next chapter.'
- MikeAmundsen
Too bad our friends at FC couldn't pull it together. I was looking forward to leading CSR live forums with guest speakers, as promised, and that never came to fruition.
- Karma Martell
sofaroshawn: nope, this time I'm not on unemployment. I've been very fortunate to have lots of employment opportunities. @Josh, me too! But I had this one lined up before I quit my job at Fast Company.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - Dave Winer said something to that effect as well about your posts. It's what made me check them out a bit more closely.
- Hutch Carpenter
Karma: if one organization can't help you achieve your big dreams, keep trying. You'll find one. Let's talk on Monday.
- Robert Scoble
Nothing like some new project to start afresh, congrats.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Me too! woo hoo...
- Rex
I usually take a job so I can have some days off...
- Aron Michalski
Jokes, we all know you're a contributing member of society, and should be on the gov'ts pay roll
- sofarsoShawn
You may be unemployed (for a week). But are you more or less productive? :P
- Lorin Olsen
Hutch: Dave Winer is a great friend and gives good advice. I hope he plays a big role in what we're doing over next year.
- Robert Scoble
@Scobleizer Well said! "I'm doing what I want, not what someone else wants me to do. That's a key attribute to a happy life." Doing what you want is a far more fulfilling path in life. Best of luck!
- Walt Ruppar
Slightly off-topic here but Andrew, nice to see you coming around to FriendFeed. Just the other day you said it makes you fearful and anxious.
- Mike Doeff
Lorin: my productivity is high and just in case I'm going to David Allen's Summit tomorrow to pick up some more tips.
- Robert Scoble
I am hoping you join the Twit network in someway. Makes since with their move into video.
- Tom Mancino
Tom: I'm on the Gillmor Gang with @stevegillmor, which is distributed on the TWiT network. Plus I'm building a studio in my house so I can do shows with @leolaporte. But that's all just for fun. My day job will be something else, although sort of related.
- Robert Scoble
Funny.
- Yuvi
I totally understand the angst, as I'm unemployed for 8 months now, starting my own startup. Keep it going : )
- Alekkus
Alekkus: sorry to hear that. My brothers in law are laid off right now and it's not fun. Of course they don't take my advice, don't blog, don't share their knowledge, don't Twitter, don't LinkedIn. Sigh. You can lead a horse to water, can't make them drink. My new project will try to help create jobs.
- Robert Scoble
wonder if it was that project / app that Robert mentioned awhile ago that we "would be wasting more time on than twitter", i tried to find that feed but.....
- shayne catrett
Shayne: there are more and more people who are Twittering for their jobs. I met a couple of people at Cisco yesterday who told me they sell and support datacenters on Twitter. If you can sell datacenters on Twitter you can sell anything on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
not the most private of places to explain your problems, 140 characters is enough?
- Richard A.
from IM
Can't wait to see what exactly you are doing. My startup is launching our web application (beta) next month. Will ask you take a look yah. Cheers : )
- Alekkus
Richard: 140 characters is enough. Why? URL's to Seesmic, to blogs, to friendfeed, to other places that can have more.
- Robert Scoble
Alekkus: would love to. What will it do?
- Robert Scoble
I'm afraid I can't reveal much now. All I can say, it's a utility that help users to amplify their social identity. I'm in fact currently using that utility to send this message.
- Alekkus
Good luck to you, Robert. I am sure whatever you do next will be amazing.
- Amie Gillingham
Robert: totally agree with that sir. I was just trying to get a little insight into that vague mention you made awhile ago....i will search for that reference when i get home...waiting patiently for your announcement
- shayne catrett
give us a hint: I can't wait till Monday: Please!
- sofarsoShawn
sofaroshawn: you don't need to wait until Monday. We're announcing it on Saturday on Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
just two words: saturday is like forever away?
- sofarsoShawn
Robert - are you recording Gillmor Gang at SXSW?
- andy brudtkuhl
andy: I will be on a Skype link. It's recorded at @leolaporte's studio in Petaluma, CA.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - that's what i thought.. Although it would be cool if you guys did a live recording at SXSW
- andy brudtkuhl
andy: well, I will be live from SXSW. Also, every afternoon I'll be on http://www.ustream.tv/sxsw -- I'll be on 5 p.m. central time.
- Robert Scoble
Being unemployed is the hardest job you'll ever have.
- Melanie Reed
looking forward to hearing more about your new adventures. Congrats & hang on - sounds like you are going for a wild ride... ( the best kind) :)
- Tracy Benham
Glad to hear you got sorted so quickly, Robert. You doing something with Cisco next?
- Sally Church
Will your studio look like Leos?
- Andrew Leyden
Were all unemployed lol
- orionstarr
I hope you were able to do some travelling during your time between jobs...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
That is the theory behind insecurity.
- Gokul
Congrats on moving forward towards bigger and better things!
- Oren
Congrats on the new job, Robert! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
that was fast!
- Ouriel Ohayon
Lock Picking (THIS IS INSANE!!) - http://www.metacafe.com/watch...
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that's just cool man!
- frank barry
Now what am I going to do with all those bic pens?
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
So that's why lock-picking tools are illegal.
- wrecks
This guy picks 7 locks in just under 2 minutes!
- Joe Bland
OMG, alarming oO
- Dennis R.
looks like I could do that too
- esther ♥ ♫
Heheh, and after picking the locks he's faced with a very large hound looking him straight in the eyes and a terrier jumping for his b$lls... Somehow I think the locks are the least of his worries.
- Henk de Kruyff
from twhirl
Lock picking tools are illegal?? What about crowbars and bolt cutters?
- Paul Grav
All burglary tools are illegal. If they think you are carrying crowbars and bolt cutters to break in somewhere, they can arrest you. Of course, there are legitimate purposes for those tools, too. Lock picks are just for picking locks, so you better have a really good reason for carrying them if caught (e.g., you are a locksmith).
- Brian Hawthorne
lockpicking tools are illegal because it's so damn easy to open for expamle a samsonite suitcase or a bicicle lock. - and the guy in the video is really well trained, a newby takes 3 to 5 minutes to open his first lock.
- pm10
I always wanted a set of those tools when I was a kid watching private eyes breaking into bad guys' houses. :)
- Steve Lowe
Carrying bolt cutters is a little more obvious than these few tools. He should throw in a third minute showing the liquid nitrogen trick and the bic-pen bike lock trick.
- Indio Apache
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Wow, this makes picking a lock look far too easy... He even picked a combination lock?!?!?!
- Walt Ruppar
Just confirms... locks are for honest people. :-(
- TranceMist
I saw him pick Loch Ness. Now that was effin' wild! Then he picked his nose and that was kinda gross.
- Christopher Harley
this is really pretty appalling to watch. i assume standard dial combo locks are harder to pick. as for the tools, meh. making them illegal is hardly sufficient to protecting users w/ these types of locks.
- MikeAmundsen
Why aren't guns illegal then? It's absurd that lock-picking tools are illegal. Mere possession shouldn't prove you're ready to break the law.
- thepete
The combination lock was the easiest. Under one second. The last one required three tools and was a little more fiddly than the rest, which were all done in a couple seconds. Scary. In other words, you can't really put your trust in locks. Makes you wonder what kind of locks you _can_ trust, if any.
- Rick Cogley
@Rick: first lock was a keyed 'door'-style lock, not a combination lock.
- MikeAmundsen
I'm here since less than an hour and all my old habits are back (except i've lost all notion of $NT...)
hey give me a call
- Indio Apache
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Mike Rowe celebrates dirty jobs | Video on TED.com - http://www.ted.com/index...
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I saw the episode about the lambs. Mike's a brave man!
- Fee501st
Mike Rowe is the only person that my wife could leave me for, and I still might not end up hating him for it.
- midnightgolfer
Please do yourself a favor and watch this video.
- James Tallman
Is being married to my wife a dirty job?
- Indio Apache
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iPhone and iPods are Banned at the Bill Gates Household - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
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Is this different than my Mom not allowing anyone to smoke in her house (except my Dad's father, the single exception)?
- Matthew DeVries
Or the every annoying people who make you take your shoes off when you come inside?
- Matthew DeVries
And we would presume Stevo isn't using WinMo phones at his house... So...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
My only observation is that when a competitor's product is better than yours sometimes it is a good idea to have some people you trust use it, get comfortable with it and tell you why... or better yet WATCH them use it for about a month... You might learn something.
- Brian Roy
Except that Mr. Gates stepped away from that sort of thing over a year ago, Brian, and probably MS (and Apple) have large teams devoted to analyzing competition.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
MVB - I'm aware. The only reason this is news, however, is because Bill = Microsoft. If I banned iPods and iPhones at my house would it get written up? Nope... The large teams are sometimes the problem - many/some/all of those folks did/were involved in the design of YOUR product. How objective do you think they will be. Watching your kids use it is personal... not a Power Point from the UX team.
- Brian Roy
Do you think Jobs has a Zune and uses an HTC phone?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Nope - but I bet he would if they were clearly superior to his offering (I know I would). At a minimum I bet he would try to find legitimate fans of those products/services and try to discern why they are fans. I'm not saying support your competition - I'm saying that when they are better... learn and evolve.
- Brian Roy
Hrm... When I managed a Jeep dealership, I never owned a Land Rover, but I knew a lot about them.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
And I bet if you had a relative/friend who had and LOVED a Rover you would spend some time trying to figure out why... that's all I'm saying.
- Brian Roy
True, Brian, I would. But not in my driveway.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
as long as he's being a grown-up about it. *rolls eyes*
- Mister Groonk
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Well, I guess I won't be visiting the Gates' household then!
- Neil Bernhart
NOW I know why I've never been invited over for dinner! :-)
- Robert Scoble
yeah :) that must be it for me too Robert. :)
- Zee.
leave your weapons at the door?
- bob phillips
Mr. Gates, would I be invited to dinner at your place if you knew I owned a Zune?
- Janet
What a brilliant way to create publicity... for the iPhone and iPod...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Hell No! Let me in with my ipod or ill kick your ass!
- nfan12
from Alert Thingy
I said Bill should use an iphone to know how good it is, but on 2nd thought, it's a no win either way for him. If he uses it, people will say, "even Bill will not use MS products", if he bans its from his household, he gets branded as ignorant. Guess it is better to be branded ignorant, than to let people beleive that Bill doesn't think MS is #1. Take one for the team, Bill :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
"Hey, kids, sorry to bum you out. But know what - let's visit some less enlightened people and release a jar of Zunes in their home -- who wouldn't benefit from that!"
- Micah Wittman
Good for him i am not a fan of apple either ( since he's microsoft i can see why lol) and would only use their products if maybe(and that's a big maybe folks) given one but i'd never actually BUY it.
- Angela P.
Who would want to even GO into that goobers home?????? I'd probably CRASH! lmao
- Scott W.
LOL +1 Scott
- Zee.
A better question would be who "wouldn't" want to go to his home. The guy is amazing and is doing a lot to help the world through his foundation.
- Jason Shultz
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All demos are inherently dorky -- CEOs are over-coached to do Steve Jobs type demos, but they aren't Steve Jobs.
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They need "jump up and down on stage" coaching to be like Steve Ballmer
- Indio Apache
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ABC News: Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers - http://abcnews.go.com/Technol...
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Haha. Of course. Just like how the most virulent homophobes were found in a study to respond more to gay than straight porn.
- fn (fairnymph)
Repression is a bad thing.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
The worst. It inevitably perverts. Not that I'm talking smack about porn, but it's not exactly the purest expression of sex in all its wondrousness.
- fn (fairnymph)
This doesn't surprise me at all. I live in WV and there is a church and two door down is a place called the Gentlemen Club. Despite the south hold on today conservative movement, people forget that NE is the home of the Puritans and their hold on the region still runs strong
- Kim Landwehr
This is one of the reasons why I started questioning religion altogether and one of the reasons why I am no longer a conservative. Our country's culture is really screwed up if you look under the covers enough. This is a good example of how.
- Robert Scoble
Conservatism isn't Christianity. Don't confuse them. For that matter, most Christians aren't really very conservative, despite their co-opting the word.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Well, not all religious people are conservative or anti-sex. Not that you were necessarily implying that - just sayin'.
- fn (fairnymph)
@Robert you aren't going to find many. That road is "narrow and few are the ones finding it." You didn't specify which religion but following Christ is not easy. As Chesterton once said, ""The problem with Christianity is not that it has been tried & found wanting but that it has been found difficult and not been tried" If you see a bad example, then It's up to you and I to answer that question for the universe while we are here and we have each been offered that privilege and that challenge.
- Melanie Reed
it's not a matter of religion necessarily and even though i'm not religious, i think it's unfair to pin it on religion as the sole or primary cause of this kind of behaviour. it does create repression for many. i find that it's more a kind of person who's attracted to religion, social conservatism, etc -- someone who chooses to live with certain constraints in their life for whatever reason (tradition, social pressures) and just can't hack it.
- Cee Bee
that being said, (i commented on a previous post regarding this topic) the biggest purveyor of on demand porn (at least in hotel chains) throughout the country has close GOP affiliations
- Cee Bee
CeeBee, Exactly. You have made my point even if unintentionally. If one chooses to truly follow Christ, there is a cost of following Him and His way and some fall away because they haven't counted the cost, or the word gets choked out by "the weeds" in life (the pressures, etc) or sometimes there's just no solid grounding there so nothing grows.
- Melanie Reed
How to use the word conservative in the same sentence with two meanings: I am more conservative in regard to my pron[sic] consumption than Conservatives are with their porn consumption.
- Phillip
@Robert @Melanie There is indeed a cost to following Christ, and one of the things we have to give up is the delusion that other people are to be used for our pleasure. When we encounter one another more authentically, we wish good for each other, and exploitation of another ceases.
- Victor Panlilio
Wow, are you implying that everyone who's not a Christian is under "the delusion that other people are to be used for our pleasure"? As a non-religious person with a religious background I find that to be an odd observation. I don't know of anyone who is under that perception except for people with narcissistic mental health issues.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Holy Fecking Hypocrites ...
- ursi
Ummm... Victor, your statement makes no sense and insults most all other religions. Do you really believe that Buddhists believe that other people are to be used for our pleasure? Really?
- Chrimmus Tad
This story is obvious bogus. Funny, but bogus.
- Kevin
When something that comes naturally to human nature (sexuality is but one example) is repressed in a society it still manifests itself, but it does so in a way where it makes the people who still partake of it incredibly guilty about their actions which causes stress and frustration and "perverts" whatever it is that's repressed, magnifying and intensifying it and causing even more of a reaction... It becomes a thrill, a drug, an addiction to those who partake of it and the price is the shame they bear.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay If one is a sincere seeker after truth, one might also give up this delusion. Alan Watts asserted that the most persistent delusion in the West is that we are isolated egos walking around in bags of skin, but if you do a simple thought experiment about the exchange of matter and energy with your immediate surroundings, you'd see that this is not really the case. See for example Jill Bolte Taylor's TEDtalk http://tinyurl.com/3l9h9y
- Victor Panlilio
I think it's a big jump to go from being self-centered (which we all are by nature) to assuming that other people simply exist for your pleasure. I'm not sure how you can make a statement that that is a common delusion for non-Christians.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Alan Watts is a Buddhist isn't he? Does he use people for his own pleasures too?
- Chrimmus Tad
The whole aversion to things sexual seems to be a side-effect of the very specific form of Christianity that came from the Old World via the Mayflower. There's a reason why the word "Puritanical" has the connotations it does. Other forms of Christianity aren't necessarily this prudish. Just because you're chaste doesn't mean you can't go at it like rabbits.
- Victor Ganata
I agree, and I think that the more repressed a society is, the more perversion is going on behind the scenes. You can't stop human nature by trying to quelch it... the only way to make it less perverted is to recognize it and accept it for what it is (not inherently good or bad in moderation).
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Tad If you are trying to set up an argument of "my viewpoint" vs. "your viewpoint" I recommend that you try the thought experiment I suggested.
- Victor Panlilio
@Lindsay Watch/listen to http://tinyurl.com/d7lpmw
- Victor Panlilio
It's interesting when we speak of sex, that it invariably falls under the reference of human nature and rarely under the category of gift. To fall under the one and not the other changes our perspective entirely, doesn't it. And we miss out on so much of what the gift is about and for, that in the manner that Lindsey speaks to, our society does exhibit acts of perverting what was originally and is now clean. But it is even more than that and this forum does not provide the space to adequately address it.
- Melanie Reed
Sex is life, Melanie... Biologically we are animals and we are driven to reproduce. The way we look, the difference between genders, all of that is about reproduction, about having sex. That is what I mean by human nature. We can't escape it. We have brains that allow us to control our reactions and modify our behaviors (as compared to other animals who run on their instinctual...
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
I'm sorry that I wasn't as clear. Sex may seem to be the source of "life" but it is rather the means by which we can conceive and give birth. There is a source that is higher than us: Jesus explained that when He said:"I am the way and the truth and the life." But what I meant was so much more than an explication of a process from a scientific perspective. We are so much more and it is beyond mere feeling. I did not mean gift in that sense. There is a reality of its purpose beyond what you havedescribed.
- Melanie Reed
@Lindsay See "The Brain That Rewires Itself" - http://tinyurl.com/2xn896 especially the concluding paragraphs on the difference between Buddhist monks and the rest of us.
- Victor Panlilio
It is that purpose of the gift that is missed and misunderstood that often leads to what this conversation began about. It is a much stronger yearning for something deeper than just human nature and instinct. It is a yearning for God. It was Chesterton who wrote in one of his fine essays: "every man who knocks on the door of a brothel is looking for God. ..."
- Melanie Reed
@Melanie I believe that reflecting on the Incarnation itself calls us to a renewed sense of how we are not merely our bodies, or merely very clever animals, but verily made "in the image and likeness" of God. Naomi Wolf's insightful article "The Porn Myth" goes a long way towards explaining why we have lost a sense of the sacred, of genuine awe and wonder, when it comes to our human sexuality http://tinyurl.com/3aartt
- Victor Panlilio
That's a very interesting article, but I'm not sure what it has to do with this discussion. Yes, through conscious effort we can change our behavior and even our thought patterns, but that doesn't change the facts that 1) we come with a preset of instincts and constructs provided to us by biology and 2) that most people are not striving to change themselves or even recognize they need to make changes in their thought patterns.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay Neuroplasticity means we change the actual structure of our brains through the thoughts that we think — which in turn can change subsequent behaviours and thoughts. A little mind-boggling, I know. See also The Brain That Changes Itself - http://tinyurl.com/bu3hbq
- Victor Panlilio
Yes, Lindsey, I agree. We can through conscious effort change our behavior...for awhile. Willpower. But it takes a relationship with God, our love for someone better than ourselves to make it stick.
- Melanie Reed
Melanie, I understand that you prescribe more meaning to sex because of the way it is defined by your religion and those connotations are what separates us from animals. But life from a biological viewpoint is about producing more life. Anything that is alive is built to reproduce itself... and any activities otherwise are basically icing on the cake. It is literally why we are here......
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- Fa La La La Lindsay
What does neuroplasticity have to do with this discussion? Well, quite simply, if someone does not see a need to address their porn addiction, they will likely seek to reinforce neural pathways that provide pleasurable feedback from the consumption of porn. If someone DOES see a need to get rid of their addiction to porn, they admit they have a problem and need to do something about it. Recommended: Naomi Wolf's article "The Porn Myth" - http://tinyurl.com/3aartt
- Victor Panlilio
It takes a change of lifestyle and commitment to the change to make modifications to our behavior stick. Motivation to make yourself a better person could be enough for some. Devotion to God or love for someone else are just other sources of motivation not the only ones. If you want to change yourself, you can. But it's difficult and that's why most people don't bother. And that's why monks generally don't live among "normal" people because it takes a lot of concentration and focus to be successful at it.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Lindsey, what you describe is precisely what has gone wrong with the agents under a perfect model. There was a time when the "struggle" as we know it today was not there. And then it was "easy". There will come a time when it will be that way again but for now we have been given help...but only if we choose to accept it.
- Melanie Reed
That's where we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't believe there was a time where there was not such a struggle, other than before humans were humans (before we could think with a higher mind and weren't different from the other animals). I understand that you have faith that such a time existed based on your religion but that belief also causes some other conclusions to be drawn on the nature of psychology that don't fit in with my acceptance of a more scientific view. It would be pointless to argue.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay Recommended: "A Monk in the World" - http://tinyurl.com/dfnbdn
- Victor Panlilio
@Victor - Here's a recommendation for you: http://www.amazon.com/Prometh... It will explain a lot. I think you would be especially interested in the chapters on imprinting.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
@Lindsay - Thanks. I just had dinner with two friends (physicists, married to each other) and they commented that how brains are structured depends in part on what early influences reinforced which neural pathways, and that this is one way to understand the phrase "the sins of the father are visited upon the son" - this essay speaks eloquently of one father's mixture of awe and dread - http://tinyurl.com/b6eapx - and as a dad myself, I can relate.
- Victor Panlilio
Liberals are to busy actually doing it to need to watch other people doing it. Conservatives aren't getting any, so they sit around frustrated, trying to write laws prohibiting other people from doin' it...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
you know whats funny? here in outback australia i see a lot of what americans call conservatism. it's hardly ever got to do with the religious aspect. more "hard working right wingers who just hate anything different" i dont know what to point to where they get it. smaller towns/small mindedness? i really dont know..
- Terry O'Fee
Terry, I'd say that's the earliest form of conservatism, before there was even religion. And would such folks be what my mum would call 'yobo'? Or not so much? *calls mum and googles*
- fn (fairnymph)
The U.S. just has this legacy of religion, what with the Pilgrims and such. If you ever study American Literature, their religious tracts are the earliest expressions of it. And the Puritans aren't the only sect that believes in the inherent depravity of man.
- Victor Ganata
yobbo, bogan. others i'd rather not use in FF..
- Terry O'Fee
@Tad - Watts is dead, but he was Buddhist, yes. More of a ZigZagZen Buddhist, if you will. Not sure if you were implying there is some contradiction between pleasure and Buddhism - hope not.
- Anthony Citrano
You can't imply that pleasure and Buddhism are contradictory. How else could you explain Tantra?
- Victor Ganata
The First Noble Truth is the nature of suffering...and we all know that the craving for pleasure, or a sense of entitlement regarding pleasure, is bound to increase suffering. "Blessed are they who expect nothing, for they shall never be disappointed" or, as Barry Schwarz astutely observed in "The Paradox of Choice" (http://bit.ly/sYOf5): the secret to happiness is...low expectations. Ubiquitous organ enlargement/Viagra/Cialis spam is a symptom of a culture that has inflated expectations to the nth degree.
- Victor Panlilio
I couldn't google up any breakdown of US VC political affilliation. Apparently many of them gave to Obama. But, this is just hedging their bet. Diversifying.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I have to admit that my initial post was off base, now that I read through A VC's full blog article. I would critique his statement that "VC doesn't need andy more capital" as "please don't fund our competitors! and anyway they're not top VCs. And any VC or entrepreneur who takes that money doesn't get in on my deals."
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Its easy to criticize and to be cynical. So here's more! Friedman says funding VC will create jobs... yes... in Bangalore. Anyway I really like A VC's posts, but I think there's a bit of spin in this one, and I think he's just putting on a brave face when he says VC is doing great. I mean, lets look at the latest statistics.
- Indio Apache
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@comcastcares my connection speed went back to normal was just temporary I guess thank you for answering on Twitter and caring :)
Sorry Loic, that was me, your neighbor, downloading that new Gov Love Blu-Ray...42GB ;-)
- Indio Apache
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Bank of America, this report says, will need billions more to survive. Sigh. - http://aotearoaawiderperspecti...
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We are still only seeing the effects of the Merrill Lynch acquisition... the Countrywide purchase will be more expensive IMHO
- Brian Roy
Well just take the money from the new stimulus plan, take the billions set aside for groups like ACORN, and just give it to the banks. I mean, it worked the first time, right? :D
- Spencer
beachpig: A bunch of little bailouts are still bailouts. Throwing money at a problem doesn't work.
- Michael Ryan
Has BoA reached the stage of Zombie bank? I don't think so. (A zombie being a company destined to fail, but is currently sucking the life out of its market and/or government resources.) I'm glad to see Thain gone after his $1.2M office remodel.
- Brett Morrison
The scary part is the money that is being funneled to these banks by the Federal Reserve outside of TARP. It's done without transparency and is far more than the money in TARP I or II.
- AJ Kohn
The banks are sitting on it because all people act for a profit and it is most profitable to sit on it if you can. Banks are not a public service, they are private companies run by private citizens. A bailout of those mortgage owners--who, like the banks, lived beyond their means--would act just as irresponsibly.
- Michael Ryan
Here is the reality people need to realize, and realize now. The government can't spend away the problems industries face.
- Spencer
Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said Thursday he's "leaning against" voting in favor of releasing the funding, because he thinks banks are hoarding the government aid to hedge against future losses. <-- article foxnews.com This is just getting more scary by the day.
- mrsha
@Michael: +34. If I hear any more about judges potentially resetting loans to keep people wildly over their head in their homes (and thus keeping the price of homes unnaturally high) I will ... well, I'll continue to write to Senators and Congresspeople.
- AJ Kohn
If any of these systematic failures had any real consequence for the top brass we'd see far fewer topple. But when the upside is enormous and the downside protected, why bother to avoid tremendous risk?
- Megan
amen. if only congress and the other regulators realized this (or, more importantly, had a vested interest in doing something besides ignoring the problem)...
- Shawn C. Reed
@Megan: Agreed. And ... if the top marginal tax rate were higher (e.g - pre-Reagan) the greed that has fueled the markets would have been *far* less pronounced. [ducking]
- AJ Kohn
Fire the C-Level and demand their pay back from them for poor performance. Nationalize the bank and hold it until it can pay back its obligation to the US Citizens as we are footing the bill for their incompetence.
- Robert Miller
It was widely known that the initial rescue funds would not be sufficient (not just the American one). We've only seen the first wave of cash, there will need to be plenty more to come. I pity the poor guys who are having to go through the paper trail of debt.
- Steven Cains
+1 beach. who didn't know this was coming, so I can smack them in the mouth?
- Anthony Citrano
Was I the only one that saw that special where the CEO of BoA said they didn't even wanna take any of the bail out money but the Gov made them take the money... Now they need more? humph! OH and anyone with half a brain knew the fired CEO was blowing smoke up their asses...smh
- Jayson Flint
Agreed. +1 @beach
- Robert Miller
@Megan: Absolutely right. The folks that got us into this mess still have their jobs, which is wrong.Secondly, if your industry is so special it needs to be protected with bailout cash the flip-side is greater regulation. You can't just take the cash and do with it as you please, that is ridiculous. I'm with Nassim Taleb who wants a strict banking/funds division so banks cannot take risks, that's for the investors to do.
- Alex Gibbons
How can you take over most every bank in America and still be in the red?
- xero
xero: When you take over those banks, you take over their debt too...
- Shawn C. Reed
Oh, so intelligent purchasing wasn't a factor in this? ;)
- xero
xero: Hahaha...I'm guessing not so much, no. ;)
- Shawn C. Reed
I think it is more likely "Intelligence was not a factor"; purchasing or otherwise.
- Robert Miller
Thain paid those billions out in bonuses to his bankers as a reward for their excellent work. In losing another 15 billion makings some of the stupidest investments in history. These (investment) bankers are nothing more than theives in tailored suits.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Also found out again, for the 18 millionth time, in tech it's every man for himself. Never help the other guy. Even if it costs nothing.
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sadly true.
- Duncan Riley
I'd just say - never give away the good stuff.
- Brian Roy
What happened?
- Morton Fox
Even to confirm this would constitute helping the other guy... No comment...
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
That is very disheartening.
- Mona Nomura
Well, as long as people perpetuate that belief, it will persist. I guess i'll be the last one standing when you've all isolated yourselves from each other and i'm the only one still willing to help.
- ·[▪_▪]·
What am I missing? What's the downside to helping?
- Mark Ratterman
If you get buggered once, you are a fool. If it happens twice, you are a faggot. -Turkish saying
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
I only help those who help themselves...if someone's willing to learn, I'll show them. If they ask over and over how to do the same thing, i refuse to help them again. I don't practice this just in tech though. It's how I live my life.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I've had the exact same experience. I'll still try to give where I can though.
- Jesse Stay
I'm fortunate that so far I've had exactly the opposite experience.
- Keith - @tsudo
Really hard to listen the Bush's speech.
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Bush is an asshole.
- Indio Apache
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I kept thinking about the Florida fiasco 8 years ago, and how much I was looking forward to this night. :)
- Edward Zwart
I've never been able to get past more than 30 seconds or so of anything he's had to say.
- jcunwired
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