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Bret Taylor
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
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You can see all of your email settings at http://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret! :) - Matt Ruiz
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend. - Bret Taylor
Great! Thanks! Love FF! - Scott Monaco
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email. - Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Lovely. Thanks guys. - Mitchell Tsai
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included? - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest. - Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...) - Mitchell Tsai
WOW. that's really helpful! - K.D.
Looks like a great addition for those who are not embedded on the site. Nice intro. - Louis Gray
Cool! - Josh Haley
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ? - Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry! - Bret Taylor
Thanks Bret - Ahsan Ali
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"? - 0M0M from email
Cool - Nimaa
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution. - Kathy Fitch
Nice addition! - Michael Fidler
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments? - Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count! - Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-) - Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists) - Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :) - Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks! - Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :) - Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too. - Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier. - Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys - (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys! - Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there). - Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed .. - Friendfeed's Francisco
That's a cool feature - Xitong Liu
FWIW this isn't working for me any longer. Perhaps that has something to do with my Gmail settings though. - Mark J
Emails no longer get sent except for Subscriptions. The last non-sub email I recieved was July 15th, 2011. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
I still get them. - AJ Batac :)
I get these every day. - CW✔
Rachel Lea Fox
Hey Email Thieves! This is MY GMAIL ACCOUNT! STOP TRYING TO STEAL IT!! I know I have an awesome Gmail account. When you are the 9th non-Google employee to get an account you can choose and awesome one too. I thought the attempts to break into my account would have stopped by now, but no... you guys just keep on trying! QUIT IT!!!
I think I preferred the email sob stories about why I should just give these people my account! *sighs* - Rachel Lea Fox
Now I'm curious what would have someone begging for it. - Trish R
How and why are they trying to steal it? - Anne Bouey
Trish, my gmail address is the same as my FF account name. I don't know why people beg for it but the first year of gmail I got about 30 emails with people telling me that my email would be the perfect birthday present for their wife, or how this animal has always meant so much to them and it would just be wonderful if they could have it for their gmail account. There were lots of... more... - Rachel Lea Fox
Wow. I can't believe people are that crazy over an email address. - Trish R
Thanks for the explanation, Rachel. What a pain for you. :( - Anne Bouey
Wow! That's terrible! I'm glad you've got Google on your side. - Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Rachel, I get a few of those too. One person (whose name I deduce is "Edna Stephens") really was persistent in claiming the estephen@gmail.com address is hers. She's signed up on dozens of mailing lists as me, so I get all sorts of odd mail for her. She recently did the Google escalation too -- not just once, but three times. I'm not sure why Google let her repeat the claim that it was... more... - Stephen Mack
Yuck Stephen. I'm sorry, that is horrible for both you and the woman who thinks that is her email. Luckily mine are never the same person for very long. They all know it isn't their email, they just want it. I have had numerous people typo and accidentally put my email as their return-to email. People end up sending their replies to me instead of them, but those all seem to be that they... more... - Rachel Lea Fox
Sorry you have to deal with that. You should have a sensible name, like mine :) No one ever tries that with me :) - WoH: Minding her Steves
My first email address was pastor@somedomain.com For many years, this was fine...until more of the world started using email. Since the mail client for the email service would post-pend @somedomain.com to any address written without a domain, To: pastor would get me an email. So would Pastor John, Pastor Fred, Pastor Joan, etc. I was getting confessions (some to crimes), questions on... more... - Ryan Kaisoglus
LOL Ryan! Wow! - Rachel Lea Fox
Amit Patel
The Benjamin Franklin Effect « You Are Not So Smart - http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011...
The Benjamin Franklin Effect « You Are Not So Smart
The Benjamin Franklin Effect « You Are Not So Smart
"Pay attention to when the cart is getting before the horse. Notice when a painful initiation leads to irrational devotion, or when unsatisfying jobs start to seem worthwhile. Remind yourself pledges and promises have power, as do uniforms and parades. Remember in the absence of extrinsic rewards you will seek out or create intrinsic ones. Take into account the higher the price you pay for your decisions the more you value them. See that ambivalence becomes certainty with time. Realize lukewarm feelings become stronger once you commit to a group, club or product. Be wary of the roles you play and the acts you put on, because you tend to fulfill the labels you accept. Above all, remember the more harm you cause, the more hate you feel, and the more kindness you deal into the world the more you come to love the people you help." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut - Clare Dibble
Amit Patel
WeatherSpark | Climate Trends - http://weatherspark.com/climate...
WeatherSpark | Climate Trends
"There is great concern in the world about global warming. Since we have collected a lot of the available high-resolution historical temperature record, we wanted to give you access to this information in graphical form, so that you can look at the data for yourself." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Why don't they have data from the 60s? "Funding cuts in the US lead to an almost decade long outage during 1964-1972." :-( - Amit Patel
Paul Buchheit
The Economist names Paul Buchheit its 2011 Computing and Telecommunications Innovation Award winner - http://www.economistconferences.co.uk/press-r...
The Economist names Paul Buchheit its 2011 Computing and Telecommunications Innovation Award winner
Congrats! - Joel Kotarski
Wow! Congratulations, Paul! - Spidra Webster
Congrats Paul! - CW✔
Awesome! - Stephen Mack
Congrats Paul! The Economist is a big deal. - Just Joe
Wow, nice! - Amit Patel
Congratulations! - Anne Bouey
Woo hoo! - SAM
Awesome. Congratulations. - Tamara J.
Extremely well deserved!! - Bo Stern
Congrats! - Barbara R. S.
WOOHOOOOOOO!! Congratulations, that is AWESOME! - The Real sofarsoShawn
Congrats! - DS
Nice. Congratulations Paul! - DJ Stevie Steve
Congratulations, Paul! - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Well deserved. And they were right to mention FriendFeed as a highlight. - Bruce Lewis
Congratulations. Well deserved. - Ashish
congrats! - imabonehead
Wonderful news! Congratulations, Paul! - Harold Cabezas
Congrats! - Eric Borisch
nice !! COng'rats - Peter Dawson
w00t! - Angelo
I think Paul's one of the most innovative peeps. after all his legacy is gmail, adsense and "dont be evil" :)- the very fabric of the Internet ecosystem comprises of at least 2 of the former items that he invented. !! - Peter Dawson
Congratulations, Paul! - Brent
Love the don't be evil! Nice write up. - amelia arapoff
A well-deserved award. Congratulations, Paul! - Frank Jernigan
My man - Josh Haley
congrats! - ebru
Congratulations! - אלף
Well deserved! - Peter Reavy
Congratulations, Paul. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
Congrats Paul!! - Rachel Lea Fox from iPhone
that's awesome, man. you changed my and many others' life, right here! I personally owe you a lot. - Ahmet Alp Balkan
Amit Patel
Thanks Recaptcha!
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That would be 1 ? - Just Joe
Amit Patel
Hack a Stereo Jack Into a Bluetooth Headset for Wireless Streaming - http://lifehacker.com/5837307...
Hack a Stereo Jack Into a Bluetooth Headset for Wireless Streaming
"If you want a quick and easy way to stream music from your computer or phone to your home stereo and have an old Bluetooth headset lying around, Instructable user dex3844 has a simple guide to hack a stereo jack into it." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Kevin Fox
Yahoo!'s new iCEO, Tim Morse, joined the company 3 months ago from Altera, a company that makes - wait for it - programmable logic devices.
No no, you mean field programmable gate arrays. They only call them PLDs because Xilinx has FPGAs sewn up. :) Trust me, Altera was BlueArc's first customer. - Louis Gray
I think Kevin's point is more: not search, not web media, nothing relevant to Yahoo. - Stephen Mack from iPhone
Stephen, it's not about points. It's about obfuscation. - Louis Gray
I thought the F in FPGA stood for field. As in, "field-programmable." - Laura Norvig from iPod
Laura, yes. That too. - Louis Gray
But he can count, right? - I like big Botts
F always stands for "Funky". - Otto
Amit Patel
Amit's Thoughts: Interactive diagrams - http://amitp.blogspot.com/2011...
Amit's Thoughts: Interactive diagrams
"Five years ago I got interested in interactive diagrams and made a few, but then got distracted by other things. I wrote a blog post about why I was interested in them. I've recently become interested in them again." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
You should add the driver's forward view and draggable cars in adjacent lanes. Most people adjust their mirrors to minimize the number of blind spots (you can get it down to 2), rather than the number of blind spots big enough to fit a car (you can get this down to zero). - Seth
Seth, that's a good idea. Lane markers and cars would help people get a sense of spacing and whether any part of the car is visible. But then I need to add bikes! :) - Amit Patel
Amit Patel
Paul Meier - Statistician who saved millions of lives - Web Exclusive Article - Significance Magazine - http://www.significancemagazine.org/details...
Paul Meier - Statistician who saved millions of lives - Web Exclusive Article - Significance Magazine
"The Kaplan-Meier estimator may not sound as if it is terribly important to most people’s lives. But if you have had a successful treatment for, say, cancer, or for diabetes, or for HIV/AIDS, or for heart disease, or for any one of dozens of other diseases or medical conditions, at any time over roughly the last fifty years, it may be that you owe your life to it and to one of the men who devised it. The statistician Paul Meier died this week. He was 87. It is estimated that his work and his advocacy in medical statistics have been responsible for saving millions of lives." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Paul Buchheit
Now who will be the first to buy a carrier, Apple or Google? Sprint market cap is just over $10B (up 8.75% today).
We can only hope one of them will. Even better: The ATT / T-Mobile merger is denied. Apple buys one of them, Google buys the other. The mobile carrier market needs some serious disruption. - Tinfoil 2.0
None of them. If anything, Microsoft will become a soft carrier, followed quickly by Apple, then Google. Here are some thoughts I had on that a few months ago: http://fury.com/2011... - Kevin Fox
bretin arkadası benimde arkadasım sayılır..hey adamım nasılsın? - Özlem(angiocat)
Someone please. That's where we need real disruption. - Todd Hoff
Realistically, no carrier has first-class coverage everywhere, and neither Apple or Google would tie their own product image to a single carrier's coverage area (again). Everyone's learned by watching the love/hate relationship users have with Apple and AT&T the past four years. No way they hobble themselves to a single physical infrastructure. - Kevin Fox
Buying a carrier doesn't mean that they couldn't still sell phones on the other carriers and more than buying Motorola precludes them from putting Android on Samsung devices. - Paul Buchheit
Would SprintApple still sell Android and Windows phones? - Kevin Fox
Carriers are so much about commoditized physical infrastructure that I'd have to believe Apple is looking for a way to make them obsolete, rather than buying one for themselves. - Kevin Fox
Amazon? -- Since they're already using Sprint for the Kindle. Might also make for some interesting Twilio-style additions to AWS - Ken Sheppardson
Amazon no longer uses Sprint for the Kindle. It uses AT&T. It was the only way to get global coverage. - Piaw Na
Aha. Got it. Meaning the newer K3 (and K2?) use AT&T? Y'know given the differing radio/network technologies, I wonder if anybody'd want Sprint, with all the inherent coverage limitations. - Ken Sheppardson
If Amazon would build a pneumatic tube delivery service underneath everyone's homes and businesses (to replace FedEx/UPS/OnTrac), they could also put Wi-Max or LTE in their tubes, so that the Internet would actually be a series of tubes. - Amit Patel
Tubes have been replaced with solar powered automated driving delivery vehicles. Not quite as romantic, or com friendly, but it uses the existing road system. - Todd Hoff
I don't think Apple wants any part of a deal to buy plumbing. If they can cover that plumbing in gold plate and sell it as an experience, then maybe. Microsoft, on the other hand, has plenty of cash and doesn't mind being a plumber. - Eric
Trucks? Tubes? Pfft... Autonomous solar-powered drones that dock at giant floating fulfillment center airships are the way to go. Get around the whole state-by-state tax problem once and for all. Just float over them. - Ken Sheppardson
Ooh, delivery by airdrop. I like it. - Amit Patel
Plus you tie this in with an app on your Android device and you'd get a little alert that says "You're package is available for delivery... please step outside"... BAM - Ken Sheppardson
Airspace tax zones would be sure to follow :-) And I think the economics of lifting goods into the air will have to wait for zero-point energy devices. - Todd Hoff
Lifting goods is cheap on the space pulley. You put a chunk of asteroid on one side and you put a container of goods on the other side. Make sure the asteroid is heavier, and it will go down as the goods go up. You extract the precious metals out of the asteroid and use that money to fund development of your delivery spacecraft, which is orbiting the Earth at supersonic speeds, picking up goods from the space pulley and releasing them at just the right time to hit Ken on the head. - Amit Patel
I figure eventually they'll just have fab plants on the moon. Solar power turns moon rocks into whatever you need, and the end products get railgunned out of the moon's gravity well and fall straight to your home with a guided descent with last-minute parachute braking. The fun part is that your Amazon Prime cutoff time will be dependent on the moon's relative position to you, so it... more... - Kevin Fox
Since this conversation looks to be officially derailed, I vote for some form of Wonka-Vision to be the distribution method of choice for Amazon prime... - Ross Miller
That or skyhooks. - Kevin Fox
Until I parsed "Sprint" I was sure you are talking about the actual warship, you know, Invincible class carrier is now supposedly on closed auction in UK :) - Michael Bravo
Well, yeah, I guess that ties in with the Amazon sub-thread nicely. They probably are the most likely to be the first to buy a carrier, e.g. http://bit.ly/g55NKr - Ken Sheppardson
Although as far as sub-threads go, this'd probably be more appropriate: http://bit.ly/rjNj0i - Ken Sheppardson
The first thought that came into my head was "Aircraft Carrier" to use as a Datacenter... - Stuart Woodward
Laura Norvig
Virtual and Artificial, but 58,000 Want Course - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2011...
Virtual and Artificial, but 58,000 Want Course - NYTimes.com
A free online course at Stanford University on artificial intelligence, to be taught this fall by two leading experts from Silicon Valley, has attracted more than 58,000 students around the globe — a class nearly four times the size of Stanford’s entire student body. - Laura Norvig from Bookmarklet
Front page of the print edition! - Laura Norvig
NICE. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
So Awesome! - Jennifer Dittrich
I think they were talking about having a Metafilter study group for this? I may join them. - Meg VMeg
I don't know about the metafilter thing. I don't have the math chops for this, so I'll just be cheering the experiment on from the sidelines. - Laura Norvig
My first week at Google (back in '03) I saw emails on the eng mailing list from Peter and I thought to myself 'Norvig... Norvig... Where do I know that name.. Russel-Norvig? My AI textbook? Oh! That's *him*?!" That was the first of many moments when I realized what an awesome place Google would be to work. - Kevin Fox
Laura, is Peter your husband? - Stephen Mack
Oh brother. - Just Joe
Had the same question about Laura Norvig/Peter Norvig a few weeks ago when I was reading Steven Levy's book about Google. - Stephen Francoeur
Ah, Joe's correct, Anika asked the question before and Laura confirmed: http://friendfeed.com/lauran... - Stephen Mack
Long memory, Joe! - Stephen Francoeur
Well, not really -- I asked her that same question in a different post years ago, and I remembered the answer. - Just Joe
So Google's buying Motorola Mobility because they need the 17,000 headcount as graders, right? - Kevin Fox
Stephen, he's my brother (that phrase elegantly accommodated two people). - Laura Norvig
Steven Levy
NY Observer BetaBeat examines (mis)use of the work "hacker." I put in my 2¢. http://www.betabeat.com/2011...
Andy Bakun
Creepy, Crusty, Crumbling: Illegal Tour of Abandoned Six Flags New Orleans [75 Pics] - http://www.lovethesepics.com/2011...
Creepy, Crusty, Crumbling: Illegal Tour of Abandoned Six Flags New Orleans [75 Pics]
Creepy, Crusty, Crumbling: Illegal Tour of Abandoned Six Flags New Orleans [75 Pics]
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Steven Levy
Google unveils feature to highlight authors in search results. I'm an early tester. http://insidesearch.blogspot.com/2011...
Amit Patel
"Cell phones have a small aperture, hence a large depth of field. In other words, most of the scene is in focus at once.  However, if you record video while moving the phone slightly, and you add the frames of the video together, you can simulate the large aperture of an SLR. This app lets you do that." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Steven Levy
Deal bet Google and British Library digitizes pre-1870 books in pub domain books. But in 2111, will 1970 books be in PD? Tragic if not.
I cannot image the information overload for citizens circa 2111 - Shakeel Mahate
Joe Hewitt
New blog post about my new photoblog and first real use of Scrollability: http://joehewitt.com/post... (photo blog is here: http://uponahill.com/ )
Amit Patel
Chromium Blog: SSL FalseStart Performance Results - http://blog.chromium.org/2011...
Chromium Blog: SSL FalseStart Performance Results
"We implemented SSL False Start in Chrome 9, and the results are stunning, yielding a significant decrease in overall SSL connection setup times. SSL False Start reduces the latency of a SSL handshake by 30%1. That is a big number. And reducing the cost of a SSL handshake is critical as more and more content providers move to SSL." - Amit Patel from Bookmarklet
Google keeps trying to make the web faster! - Amit Patel
I'm not for all of Google's attempts to make it faster. Doesn't SPDY forgo HTTP as a text-based protocol to a more binary format? I'm not in favor of that in the name of performance. - Andy Bakun
As far as I can tell (and I haven't experimented with SPDY at all so I might be mistaken) HTTP runs on top of SPDY sort of like how vi runs on top of screen+ssh. Yes, the data going over TCP is binary but the application is using HTTP, with slight modifications. The SPDY layer gives multiplexing, compression, encryption. I don't know if it'll get adopted. The SSL False Start thing is separate, for standard HTTPS, and it seems like a big win for so little work, and I hope it works out. - Amit Patel
Gabe
Definitive statements are always wrong.
Simon
MIT Scientist Captures 90,000 Hours of Video of His Son's First Words, Graphs It - http://www.fastcompany.com/1733627...
MIT Scientist Captures 90,000 Hours of Video of His Son's First Words, Graphs It
"In one 40-second clip, you can hear how “gaga” turned into “water” over the course of six months. In a video clip, below, you can hear and watch the evolution of "ball."" - Simon from Bookmarklet
Paul Buchheit
Greplin’s Social Search Opens Its Doors To All - http://techcrunch.com/2011...
Greplin’s Social Search Opens Its Doors To All
"Greplin, the service that indexes and lets you search all of your online social stuff (Gmail, Twitter, Facebook, etc.), has just opened its doors to everyone. Earlier this week we reported on their new financing round from Sequoia Capital, and over the last couple of days they’ve let in everyone on the waitlist. And as of right now, you can use Greplin, too. Why would you want to use Greplin? Because it lets you search across all of your emails, Facebook data and Twitter stuff with one query. And they haven’t stopped there. You can also authorize Google Apps, Dropbox, LinkedIn, Google Calendar, Google Docs, Evernote, Yammer, Salesforce, Box.net, Basecamp, Google Voice, Google Reader, Google Contacts and more. And then find stuff in those apps with a single query." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Any idea when Friendfeed will show up as a Greplin source? Have badly needed that three times in the last month. Kudos! - Christopher Galtenberg
Sorta like friendfeed minus the conversation. I hope they would add friendfeed.com as one of the services that it indexes - Shakeel Mahate
Amit Patel
Simple Top-Down Parsing in Python - http://effbot.org/zone...
"In the early seventies, Vaughan Pratt published an elegant improvement to recursive-descent in his paper Top-down Operator Precedence. Pratt’s algorithm associates semantics with tokens instead of grammar rules, and uses a simple “binding power” mechanism to handle precedence levels. Traditional recursive-descent parsing is then used to handle odd or irregular portions of the syntax." - Amit Patel
Nice, hadn't seen that before. Very clearly written. - DeWitt Clinton
Peter Norvig
Jeff Dean: Who is Jeff Dean? - Quora - http://www.quora.com/Jeff-De...
"Compilers don’t warn Jeff Dean. Jeff Dean warns compilers." - Peter Norvig from Bookmarklet
"Jeff Dean wrote a genetic algorithm. It made awesome things amongst which are BigTable and Peter Norvig." http://www.quora.com/What-ar... - Simon
Too late, Google Alerts already told me... - Peter Norvig from email
Peter Norvig
So a Reporter Walks into a Scientist's Office... - NYTimes.com - http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2011...
Revkin suggests that experts give homework assignements and tests to reporters. Not a bad idea. - Peter Norvig from Bookmarklet
Gabor Cselle
Rejections of landmark CS papers. Amazing. http://www.vf.utwente.nl/~neisse...
Wow. Just, wow. This kind of thing should be required reading for any peer reviewer. Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's dumb. Study it until you understand it, so you can make an educated judgement. - Kevin Fox
Awesome. - Paul Buchheit
In case it wasn't clear, these are all fictional rejection letters. - Simon
Eivind
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." -Desmond Tutu
well, which is more valuable? the land or the bible? there are arguments for both. sounds like Mr. Tutu got a good deal, but one that doesn't pay off until later - like in the next life.... - Morgan
I believe the land came with some of it's own gods. - SAM
I bet some of them really believed that, Morgan. Missionaries have done some horrible things in their eagerness to spread "the good news." :( - Eivind
Yeah, things have been sooo much better in Africa since Christian missionaries arrived. - Kenton
All due respect, I don't know many people (no matter how religious) who would trade their home and means of supporting their family for the promise of Heaven. - Bren from iPhone
Yeah, exactly. My father is from Nigeria and I can tell you that generally speaking, Africa got the very short end of that stick. - Chieze Okoye
Land > bible - Amy
Nothing like good old colonialism. - ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Historically the missionaries were pretty much like snake oil salesmen. they were slick and smooth with the word play, and they brought military muscle to back that up , in case it didn't work. The fact that the locals took the deal doesn't absolve the dishonest deal making of the visiting missionaries or any other type of group. And trust me, I agree with the comment about not giving up my homeland for a 'maybe' existence in what someone else calls 'heaven' - Morgan
But Africa is no other place, and it is probably wise to approach things with a fresh and open mindset, not assuming things that have worked in other places, will work in Africa. - Morgan
Interesting article on Desmond Tutu's history of antisemitism: http://www.hudson-ny.org/1742... - JSLeFanu
Sad story, but they did it in the whole world this way... - Solveigh Calderin
Little revisionism from Mr Tutu, things before that Bible showed weren't exactly idylic on the continent. Like all human history little is absolute. And no I'm not defending what came after that book arrived either - WarLord
True enough, it's much too short a sentence to accurately represent all that happened and the situation beforehand, etc. Religious-faced colonialism did no one on the continent any favors, though. - Chieze Okoye
Same is true in Latin America, Hawaii and many other places. Many do gooders ended up doing really well by sticking to the holy book and spreading the good news (my foot). - سيما كيا Sima kia
Paul Buchheit
(removed minor issue) - DGentry
Fixed. Thanks. - Paul Buchheit
Maybe service OS might fit better? Services are being composed together. Cloud OS already has the notion of running a cloud inside a datacenter or across datacenters. Though that's just a nit, I agree with the larger points. - Todd Hoff
Great post, Paul. There's a slight aesthetic issue with having different UI for apps and browser tabs. The typical window managers couldn't accommodate heavy web browsing. Chromium breaks down with too many tabs (although side tabs could change this. There's also an extension for searching open tabs.) And the stock Android experience for app and browser window switching is less than ideal. Heh, I should take a crack at this since I'm so opinionated. - Vezquex from Android
After reading your blog, I thought of a great slogan. "The network is the computer." I'm pretty sure that one hasn't been taken yet :) - Rob Hoeting
Yeah, Sun was right about the big picture, but couldn't translate that into products worth buying. - Paul Buchheit
We used a heck a lot of Sun's diskless workstations. Worked nicely, even with the anemic networking of the time. Just too early on the whole portable device thing. - Todd Hoff
"Once Android has all the benefits of ChromeOS, the most obvious difference will be that ChromeOS lacks the thousands of native apps which are popular on Android. Android apps are closer to web apps than Windows apps in terms of security and manageability, so eliminating them doesn't seem like much of an advantage for ChromeOS." Nicely put. Here's to hoping that Android makes web apps as powerful and integrated as possible so the only reason to go native is for things like video uploading and games. - Karl Rosaen
Might help to think of devices as memes -- Chrome OS as part of the cloud OS meme cannot die but only help evolution. Having a cloud OS as a mere theoretical concept versus actually playing around with one is the difference between reading a book on color theory versus actually sinking your paint brush into oil colors and putting them down on the canvas. As a web developer playing... more... - Philipp Lenssen
You may be right Philipp. It could serve its purpose even if it never finds commercial success on its own. - Paul Buchheit
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Niagara Falls ran dry: Photos show moment iconic waterfall came to standstilll - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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"It's taken 41 years, but a previously unseen set of photos of the mighty Niagara Falls reduced to nothing more than a barren cliff-top have finally surfaced. The stark images reveal North America's iconic - and most powerful - waterfall to be almost as dry as a desert. In June 1969, U.S. engineers diverted the flow of the Niagara River away from the American side of the falls for several months." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet
And THAT is why you don't want to fall off the side. - Eric
Doesn't it freeze up in the winter some times? - Gabe
Gabe: it can't freeze due to the amount of water flowing, but there have been mitigating factors in the past (like ice dams forming upstream) that have created walkable parts. Trivia: they control the precise amount of water that flows over the falls, and throttle it back at night for hydropower. - Mark Trapp
Wow looks like Super 8 footage - Rodfather
Mark: Apparently ice dams can stop water flow altogether, but it hasn't happened since maybe 1848. What happens is that ice ends up covering the river and the falls (such that you were allowed to walk on it up to about 100 years ago), but the water still flows underneath it. - Gabe
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Well that's amusing. I'm surprised that an os with approximately zero users would have so many fans. For the record, I'm a big believer in the "instant on, cloud-based os" future, but that platform will be known as Android (and iOS).
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I'm on your side Paul! :) - Oguz Serdar
It's certainly a strangely positioned product, but having used one, I find it oddly "good". It's much less crufty than my Android phone. Very clean and simple, and that can speak volumes. - Steve and 3 other people
There are some who call it... Tim. - Christopher Galtenberg
I didn't read any of those articles. Did any of their authors seem to be "fans"? - Gabe
No, but many of the comments were from people who said that I "didn't get it", or that I'm ugly. - Paul Buchheit
I don't get that Paul is ugly. Wait. What? - WoH: Minding her Steves
Paul isn't ugly. He's totally dreamy *hangs poster on wall* - Johnny from iPhone
Google fans are at times, and increasingly, more insufferable than Apple fans ever were. It must be weird to have an off-hand comment on FriendFeed blown into such a huge story. Unless that's what you were intending; if so: well played. - Mark Trapp
Yeah, I've had innocuous posts blow up like that before. It usually starts with a single person tweeting the post with a @techmeme at-reply, and it snowballs from there. - Kevin Fox
Kevin: someone actually used something you said a year ago as a flame on the initial TechCrunch story: http://techcrunch.com/2010... - Mark Trapp
Oh shit. Okay Paul, apparently the Internet has decided that IT IS ON between us. Fight! - Kevin Fox
The irony is that I'm currently working on the Open Web Apps initiative at Mozilla Labs, which if wildly successful will mean that apps are installed and used across devices irrespective of the device's OS, rendering the difference between a tablet-sized ChromeOS and a tablet-sized AndroidOS device largely moot. - Kevin Fox
I'm looking forward to the days of moot. - Micah
New TechCrunch headline: "Mozilla working on Chrome OS killer" - Mark Trapp
Micah, if I had some butcher paper I'd make you a Jump to Conclusions mat with a single 'moot' square. - Kevin Fox
New TechMeme headline: "Mark Trapp newest editor at TechCrunch" - Kevin Fox
Forget stock pumping-and-dumping: social media pump-and-dumps are where it's at. Quick, someone who used to work at Google say I'm Steve Jobs's successor! It'll have to be true! - Mark Trapp
Paul vs Kevin... Round 1... FIGHT! *grabs popcorn* - Johnny from iPhone
Why are you eating popcorn, Johnny? You're supposed to me MCing this momunental showdown!! - WoH: Minding her Steves
The name of that "instant on, cloud-based OS" does not matter. What matters is the application model and the glue between those applications. Are you saying that in the future developers will be coding Java Apps, using a proprietary markup, no URLs, no introspection and searchability? - Edwin Khodabakchian
WoH... I'm going for the Street Fighter II style... - Johnny from iPhone
I wonder how long before people realize that the cloud is just the mainframe of the future and decide that we should own our apps and data... - Gabe
my thoughts :) http://techcrunch.com/2010... great discussions, BTW. except for the shots at TC :) - MG Siegler
wow, MG Siegler is still on FF. that's huge. BTW, you were amazing @LeWeb! :) - Oguz Serdar
I prefer the more web-based development model, but that will undoubtably be supported by Android. - Paul Buchheit
My favorite is the one that calls you "gmail's daddy" o_0 - Laura Norvig
Laura, that's it. I will now solely refer to SJobs as the 'Mac Daddy' (And David Atkison, and Larry Tessler. There are a lot of Mac Daddies. - Kevin Fox
It's an obvious branding issue, but what I'm not sure about is the enterprise market. Releasing with citrix support was a surprise, not that I think our current network system can support that. - Todd Hoff
The question is native apps or no native apps. If Android loses its native apps, it could as well be called ChromeOS. But maybe the Android brand wins. Me personally I'm more fond of the Chrome brand, also because it's available without special hardware on Windows and Mac. Much like Kindle. - Meryn Stol
BTW I don't believe Android will go away any time soon. It's a great competitor to iOS. Heck, I wouldn't exclude the possibility of Android coming to pc's. Google has plenty of developer resources available to please *any* constituency, whether they like a traditional OS like Android or a "web os" like ChromeOS. - Meryn Stol
What would be logical if both iOS and Android gain the ability to make web apps first-class citizens of their OS. Much like Fluid on the Mac, and the new taskbar pinning of IE9. I think there comes a time where only geeks can tell the difference between native and web on these platforms. ChromeOS would by definition have less apps than Android, because it lacks the native Android apps, but less than many is still a lot. And still enough for many. :) - Meryn Stol
Meryn: that already exists in iOS. Mobile Safari allows users to create icons to web apps on the home screen that act just like normal app icons, and Mobile Safari takes full advantage of everything that makes HTML5 apps "apps". A perfect example of an app taking full advantage of what Mobile Safari has to offer is Glyphboard: http://mrgan.tumblr.com/post... After "installation" there is no difference between it and a regular app. - Mark Trapp
Mark, I didn't know. Actually got my first iOS device today (iPad). But, making icons is only the very first step. For example, would a web-app be able to use iOS multitasking api's? I think not. That would need to be supported by Safari (one hell of a challenge I would guess... practically rocket science). I'll check out glyphboard. I have much to learn. :) - Meryn Stol
Meryn: actually, they do. Web apps have all the support Mobile Safari has, including multitasking. The web as a platform on iOS enjoys first-class support from Apple, and is currently mostly limited to people's imaginations. - Mark Trapp
I wonder if Apple would let Chrome on iOS? If my analogy with Kindle is correct, Google would want Chrome everywhere. There, they can add support for their app store. But I think Apple would hate that. I think Amazon has been forced to do payments through Safari. - Meryn Stol
Now I don't understand what your point is, other than to move the goalposts. What does Apple allowing Chrome on iOS have to do with making the web a first-class citizen? Mobile Safari arguably has better support than even Android's bundled browser, and allows web apps *now* to interact with much of the device. - Mark Trapp
Ah, like the good old days. Don't let me stop you, continue. - Eric from iPhone
Mark, actually nothing. I was addressing two different subjects at the same time. My bad. Both Apple and Google are the only ones able to make web apps seem native on their respective mobile platforms. - Meryn Stol
But the competitive landscape that is emerging in my head looks very interesting... I really wonder what Apple's web strategy will be... They can't simply let Google have it all in the future. They'll need to try to be a middle man on the web too. They're positioned fine... - Meryn Stol
In the short term, they might be content with just people buying through the chrome web store. But long-term? OTOH I think Jobs has claimed that the app store is not a profit center for Apple. I'd be fine with Apple in the long term receding to making just absolutely superior, "lickable" hardware. - Meryn Stol
Apple's been at the forefront at pushing the web forward: they spearheaded WebKit and were telling developers in 2007 the future of apps was the web. It wasn't until much later that they built the App Store after developers insisted that apps were the way to go. The App Store turned out to be wildly successful, but there's no doubt the web is incredibly important to companies like Apple... more... - Mark Trapp
I agree. But I'm still wondering about whether Apple sometimes does want to be a middle man. They had beef with Amazon (and perhaps others?) re in-app payments. I don't know the details of the story though. - Meryn Stol
There is no evidence to suggest, and Apple has published everything one could possibly publish to the contrary, that they want to get in the middle of the user and the web; they regulate the App Store, iOS, and the physical devices for their business interests and quality control. In app payments are exactly that: payments within apps that have been distributed through the... more... - Mark Trapp
I'm just thinking that maybe Apple's beef with Amazon was a fairness consideration. Jobs has said that they take a cut from app purchases to pay for the app store infrastructure (and sponsoring the free apps). Kindle app is free, so would be sponsored, yet each install would probably result in substantial money flows (one book is more expensive than a lot of apps). Maybe they should... more... - Meryn Stol
Paul is right. I don't see how Chrome OS can get anywhere. It's like they are trying to solve a 1999 problem. Too bad it's 10 years too late. Now, leave me alone while I play with my connected watch and my new Nexus S. - Robert Scoble
don't know what to say - testbeta
I love lamp. - Mark J
remember android too wasn't taken seriously by many in its initial stages it was expected to fade away, but then google gave nexus with help from manufacturers, chrome os comes with a hardware it mght be difficult but lets see how laptop companies see it do they bring out chrome os based notebooks? because it ight actually cut costs, a chrome os notebook is expected to be cheaper than usual win or iOS based notebooks even netbooks lets see how asus sees it - testbeta
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