Hah! You're both right. Just came from my physical -- clean bill of health other than a bit of cholesterol and vision starting to go. So I have a lot to be grateful for. But 50 is only four years off, how did this happen?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
I have a sudden urge to get a sports car for some reason. Blondes seem attractive. What does this mean???
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Yeah, I'm definitely more scared being this close to 50 but that has a lot more to do with where I personally am in my life than the age of 50 itself. I'm sure other people do really well with it. (I'm permanently about 22 in my head...except slightly wiser and more world weary. You can be permanently 35 in your head!)
- Spidra Webster
In all seriousness, there's a certain feeling of triumph that comes with getting a clean bill of health after a CPE. I had mine today too.
- Jim #TeamMonique
You youngun. Ya know - we have a grownups' table you can join here at 50. Remember, m9m? Also, I didn't even start learning proper HTML/CSS until I was 47, nearly six years ago.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
LOL Mary, these are the true hours of aged wisdom, right?
- Janet:#TeamMonique
Does this mean I'm not old enough to be your friend Janet?
- Headless Gnad Kicker
Apparently. Also, the pills are in the kitchen. ;-) And I've been going to stand up and go there for an hour.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I worked a 13 hour shift and came home to become very angry with other half. Anger does not bode well for sleep. Going to see if I can grab two more hours before I am back at work. Hope you have good pills.
- Janet:#TeamMonique
I have GREAT pills. But I respect them, too. They're like big dogs - gotta keep a certain perspective.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I *feel* 32 today. But somehow that doesn't add up properly when I subtract my birth year from the calendar year. Odd, that.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
For the record. Melly is also old enough to be my friend......and niece!
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
Cool! can i get a daily or weekly email digest for the "Saved searches"?
- 0M0M
from email
This will be incredibly useful. Thanks to all involved in the design and execution.
- Kathy Fitch
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Franc, a rememberer
"We're making a browser-based game that lets people build anything they can imagine. It's like virtual Lego, except anyone can contribute a new piece simply by drawing it. The 2D drawings are bounding-boxed into 2.5D objects that can be used to build in 3D space."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
16GB ~= 2 hours of 19Mbps HD video (i.e. broadcast HD). But I like where you're going with this. :)
- Steve and 4 other people
Consumers can get 64GB flash drive for $35; I bet TiVo could probably get it much lower. No reason to skimp with just 16GB, this isn't 2003.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
Could flash, even SLC flash, stand up to the rewrite cycles of a DVR? Wouldn't you be better off with an iPod classic size HD? I really doubt the HD (even with cooling) keeps the box as big as it is.
- Andrew C (✓)
http://www.storagesearch.com/ssd-slc... - SLC rated for 100K write cycles, MLC for 3K write cycles. So back of envelope, 64 GB of flash MLC would be good for 3 years before crapping out if you've got the box recording 24/7, but SLC would last long enough.
- Andrew C (✓)
I have 250GB in my DVRs, and it's not enough. OTOH, high-capacity DVRs are a form of lock-in with the provider (and its antiquated hardware model).
- Tinfoil 2.0
OTOH, everything is available as streaming, so why have any local storage at all?
- Steve and 4 other people
Not legally. Not at any price. And many (most?) people don' have the bandwidth or caps necesary for all-streaming, all the time.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Steve, huh? Who tosses around uncompressed HD? Most HD is closer to a gig an hour.
- Kevin Fox
from iPhone
"uncompressed" HD comes right off the cable or antenna, so TiVo-style. The 1G/hr stuff is what you find on teh internetz. Or, are you thinking "download & play" for this thing?
- Steve and 4 other people
Based on the specs for the TiVo premiere (500 GB, 75 hours of HD advertised), they're running at ~6.7 GB an hour. So 16 GB would give you ~2.4 hours. Probably couldn't get everything you need to transcode to something like h.264/h.265 in a Roku-sized box. It would take forever to do it, too (definitely not on the fly).
- Mark Trapp
The TiVo Stream encodes HD video down to 1.2gigs an hour in realtime. It doesn't take a big box to house and feed an mpeg encoder chip.
- Kevin Fox
The HD video I get off comcast is pretty highly compressed. The only place you'll find uncompressed HD is OTA, which is why the latest TiVos *only* write bytestreams from cablecards, so they don't do any compression themselves.
- Kevin Fox
That's true: I wonder why Tivo advertises such conservative storage capacities, then. If it's as densely packed as the 2nd gen Apple TV, it doesn't look like you'd be able to fit the cable card housing inside a Roku-sized box, but you'd have room to spare in a 1st-gen Apple TV/Mac Mini sized box. Still much smaller than a traditional Tivo/set top box.
- Mark Trapp
True, and instead of onboard flash you could have a microSD card slot like the Roku has. Granted, companies like to get high margins on high capacity boxes, but they could just sell it with 8gb flash and bundle a 64gb microSD for a good amount of storage.
- Kevin Fox
Mostly, I just think the full-sized TiVo isn't a good fit for dorm rooms. It's not bedroom friendly due to size and fan, which is why they made the TiVo Mini, but that's just a slave device to a full TiVo. A small standalone box without a spinning disk or fan is very appealing.
- Kevin Fox
A 1.8" disk might not need a cooling fan.
- Andrew C (✓)
1.8" is interesting. I'd be a little worried about their MTBF if they're always reading and writing, and I'm not sure if you'd get much of a price savings over flash for ~160GB, but it's possible. Heck, Apple still sells 160GB 1.8" HD iPod Classics.
- Kevin Fox
The biggest thing I wonder about this is how to get a cableCARD slot into such a small form factor.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
This should give me hope, that if Google Reader can be shut down because of low interest, Google Plus can too! ;-) ;-) ;-)
- Amit Patel
LOL, If they keep closing the bottom 20% of their products, eventually they will have zero products. (Zeno's Paradox not withstanding) ;)
- Jimminy IS Everybody
The screenshots in that post are incredible.
- Louis Gray
Heh, when I read that earlier today, Louis, I couldn't help but see your name jump out.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yeah, I basically stopped using it at that time for the same reason. I rarely use Google+ and I disliked the removal of certain features a great deal.
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Amazing how a service that is all about capturing content may not be a good fit with a service that is all about reading other people's content.
- Todd Hoff
Congratulations Bret on achieving all you have with Google, FriendFeed and Facebook. Looking forward to the news of the next journey. We're all proud of you. http://allthingsd.com/2012061...
What Rochelle said. And what Louis Gray said squared.
- John Craft
Pretty interesting development. Curious to see what Bret does next.
- Mark Krynsky
The startup I would like to see is a service where I can feed in all of my RSS feeds and things, and people can comment on them, and the most recent comment or like bumps it to the top. To make it marketable, maybe ads on the side of the page can be sold that matches the discussion that people are having. For example, a discussion like this would pull up adds for Google + and Facebook and Ground Coffee. Wait, that is like FriendFeed without the ads.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
"Facebook is built on open source from top to bottom, and could not exist without it. As engineers here, we use, contribute to, and release a lot of open source software, including pieces of our core infrastructure such as HipHop and Thrift. But in our C++ services code, one clear bottleneck to releasing more work has been that any open sourced project needed to break dependencies on unreleased internal library code. To help solve that problem, today we open sourced an initial release of Folly, a collection of reusable C++ library artifacts developed and used at Facebook. This announcement was made at our C++ conference at Facebook in Menlo Park, CA."
- Tudor Bosman
from Bookmarklet
I sunk many hours into this, sometimes at the expense of my "real" job. If you're into C++ programming, give folly a try.
- Tudor Bosman
Hm, weird, I'm pretty sure I drew this in gimp in the 90s, for notes I was making for a game I was working on. It's now on wikipedia. But I don't know *for sure* that I drew it. I no longer have the xcf files. Could I have gotten it from the web? I suppose it's possible, but who but me would've drawn it so badly?
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
A rain shadow is a constant in our local weather in Washington State. I wouldn't argue it but I wonder if people here, especially in Western Washington, are more weather savvy than people in other regions. Rain shadows, convergence zones, compressions, etc. Gah, there was a term I had only heard for the first time just recently but now I can't remember it... not mesocyclone... but...
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- Akiva
I became far more weather savvy after moving to the west coast. It's so much more interesting out here! Microclimates … it can be 30°F warmer at my house than 20 miles away; it can rain 10 inches in Ben Lomond and 0 inches in San Jose, 10 miles away.
- Amit Patel
From my post: "This Friday, March 30, 2012, will be a vacation day for TiVo employees. Why? Because it's Blue Moon Day! The fourteenth Blue Moon day, in fact: Thirteen years since March 26, 1999, when the world's first DVR shipped out to paying customers."
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from Bookmarklet
Ah, the name is no longer a secret. Is this a codename or the real name? Now I'm starting to ponder what kind of product would be sold by a company called Electric Imp.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He had a high and nasally voice (very different from his voice today). You can hear it in that video. Some of my housemates liked to imitate him.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He discovered that some of my hacker friends had nicknamed me Emacs Vi. He asked why they called me Emacs. I explained it was from my name, E. S. Mack IV (the IV was transposed into Vi for the nickname).
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He had an extensive collection of very obscure world music LPs.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He bought Crenshaw melon a lot, and offered to share it frequently. My housemates, when doing their imitations, would invariably lead off with, "Um, would you like any Crenshaw MELON?" in a high and nasally voice.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
He needed the room for longer than the sublease, and school started and he didn't want to move out. I slept on the couch because I needed the money, but my housemates were not happy. Eventually I had to kick him out.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Jimminy, fortunately I never witnessed anything that gross. (I've seen that video before; can't bear to watch it again.) One of my housemates told me that he'd rub his hands on his hair to get the bacon grease out after cooking, which, combined with the fact he didn't wash his hair, gave him a baconoderous aspect.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Dude, that was one of the best saturdayffs ever.
- Laura Norvig
This is pretty cool. I read this (not clicking links) and still wondered who he was. The finally clicked the wikipedia link, "OOOOOH, rms!" That name I know. I don't anything about Emacs, but I know rms from AI stuff.
- Anika
Luca, have a great time! I didn't get to talk to him much (the reason I was subletting the room in the first place was because I was working a summer job in the South Bay). I regret not being able to discus more. I find his web site fascinating.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from iPhone
Free-virus is probably the most apt description I've ever seen of the GPL. I hate it. MIT and Apache I can deal with. And GPL v3 is better than v2, but still sucks.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
This thread… +1000. #FTW! I've only exchanged a couple emails with the man (around the time Sam Williams' book, *Free As In Freedom*, came out) but admire him much the same way as I admire H.S. Thompson. Agree or disagree with the man, he's the good sort of one-of-a-kind.
- Absentee
It's pretty crazy to think about how much wouldn't exist if he hadn't crafted the GPL, though. No gcc, glibc, no Linux, no Android. There were simply no serious free compilers or libraries at the time, and it took a while to strip out all the proprietary AT&T code from BSD so that it could actually be distributed freely.
- Victor Ganata
Hey Email Thieves! This is MY GMAIL ACCOUNT! STOP TRYING TO STEAL IT!! I know I have an awesome Gmail account. When you are the 9th non-Google employee to get an account you can choose and awesome one too. I thought the attempts to break into my account would have stopped by now, but no... you guys just keep on trying! QUIT IT!!!
Now I'm curious what would have someone begging for it.
- Trish R
How and why are they trying to steal it?
- Anne Bouey
Trish, my gmail address is the same as my FF account name. I don't know why people beg for it but the first year of gmail I got about 30 emails with people telling me that my email would be the perfect birthday present for their wife, or how this animal has always meant so much to them and it would just be wonderful if they could have it for their gmail account. There were lots of...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
Wow. I can't believe people are that crazy over an email address.
- Trish R
Thanks for the explanation, Rachel. What a pain for you. :(
- Anne Bouey
Rachel, I get a few of those too. One person (whose name I deduce is "Edna Stephens") really was persistent in claiming the estephen@gmail.com address is hers. She's signed up on dozens of mailing lists as me, so I get all sorts of odd mail for her. She recently did the Google escalation too -- not just once, but three times. I'm not sure why Google let her repeat the claim that it was...
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- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yuck Stephen. I'm sorry, that is horrible for both you and the woman who thinks that is her email. Luckily mine are never the same person for very long. They all know it isn't their email, they just want it. I have had numerous people typo and accidentally put my email as their return-to email. People end up sending their replies to me instead of them, but those all seem to be that they...
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- Rachel Lea Fox
Sorry you have to deal with that. You should have a sensible name, like mine :) No one ever tries that with me :)
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
My first email address was pastor@somedomain.com For many years, this was fine...until more of the world started using email. Since the mail client for the email service would post-pend @somedomain.com to any address written without a domain, To: pastor would get me an email. So would Pastor John, Pastor Fred, Pastor Joan, etc. I was getting confessions (some to crimes), questions on...
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- Ryan Kaisoglus
"Pay attention to when the cart is getting before the horse. Notice when a painful initiation leads to irrational devotion, or when unsatisfying jobs start to seem worthwhile. Remind yourself pledges and promises have power, as do uniforms and parades. Remember in the absence of extrinsic rewards you will seek out or create intrinsic ones. Take into account the higher the price you pay for your decisions the more you value them. See that ambivalence becomes certainty with time. Realize lukewarm feelings become stronger once you commit to a group, club or product. Be wary of the roles you play and the acts you put on, because you tend to fulfill the labels you accept. Above all, remember the more harm you cause, the more hate you feel, and the more kindness you deal into the world the more you come to love the people you help."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegut
- Clare Dibble
"There is great concern in the world about global warming. Since we have collected a lot of the available high-resolution historical temperature record, we wanted to give you access to this information in graphical form, so that you can look at the data for yourself."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
Why don't they have data from the 60s? "Funding cuts in the US lead to an almost decade long outage during 1964-1972." :-(
- Amit Patel
I think Paul's one of the most innovative peeps. after all his legacy is gmail, adsense and "dont be evil" :)- the very fabric of the Internet ecosystem comprises of at least 2 of the former items that he invented. !!
- Peter Dawson
"If you want a quick and easy way to stream music from your computer or phone to your home stereo and have an old Bluetooth headset lying around, Instructable user dex3844 has a simple guide to hack a stereo jack into it."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
No no, you mean field programmable gate arrays. They only call them PLDs because Xilinx has FPGAs sewn up. :) Trust me, Altera was BlueArc's first customer.
- Louis Gray
"Five years ago I got interested in interactive diagrams and made a few, but then got distracted by other things. I wrote a blog post about why I was interested in them. I've recently become interested in them again."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
You should add the driver's forward view and draggable cars in adjacent lanes. Most people adjust their mirrors to minimize the number of blind spots (you can get it down to 2), rather than the number of blind spots big enough to fit a car (you can get this down to zero).
- Seth
Seth, that's a good idea. Lane markers and cars would help people get a sense of spacing and whether any part of the car is visible. But then I need to add bikes! :)
- Amit Patel
"The Kaplan-Meier estimator may not sound as if it is terribly important to most people’s lives. But if you have had a successful treatment for, say, cancer, or for diabetes, or for HIV/AIDS, or for heart disease, or for any one of dozens of other diseases or medical conditions, at any time over roughly the last fifty years, it may be that you owe your life to it and to one of the men who devised it. The statistician Paul Meier died this week. He was 87. It is estimated that his work and his advocacy in medical statistics have been responsible for saving millions of lives."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
We can only hope one of them will. Even better: The ATT / T-Mobile merger is denied. Apple buys one of them, Google buys the other. The mobile carrier market needs some serious disruption.
- Tinfoil 2.0
None of them. If anything, Microsoft will become a soft carrier, followed quickly by Apple, then Google. Here are some thoughts I had on that a few months ago: http://fury.com/2011...
- Kevin Fox
Someone please. That's where we need real disruption.
- Todd Hoff
Realistically, no carrier has first-class coverage everywhere, and neither Apple or Google would tie their own product image to a single carrier's coverage area (again). Everyone's learned by watching the love/hate relationship users have with Apple and AT&T the past four years. No way they hobble themselves to a single physical infrastructure.
- Kevin Fox
Buying a carrier doesn't mean that they couldn't still sell phones on the other carriers and more than buying Motorola precludes them from putting Android on Samsung devices.
- Paul Buchheit
Would SprintApple still sell Android and Windows phones?
- Kevin Fox
Carriers are so much about commoditized physical infrastructure that I'd have to believe Apple is looking for a way to make them obsolete, rather than buying one for themselves.
- Kevin Fox
Amazon? -- Since they're already using Sprint for the Kindle. Might also make for some interesting Twilio-style additions to AWS
- Ken Sheppardson
Amazon no longer uses Sprint for the Kindle. It uses AT&T. It was the only way to get global coverage.
- Piaw Na
Aha. Got it. Meaning the newer K3 (and K2?) use AT&T? Y'know given the differing radio/network technologies, I wonder if anybody'd want Sprint, with all the inherent coverage limitations.
- Ken Sheppardson
If Amazon would build a pneumatic tube delivery service underneath everyone's homes and businesses (to replace FedEx/UPS/OnTrac), they could also put Wi-Max or LTE in their tubes, so that the Internet would actually be a series of tubes.
- Amit Patel
Tubes have been replaced with solar powered automated driving delivery vehicles. Not quite as romantic, or com friendly, but it uses the existing road system.
- Todd Hoff
I don't think Apple wants any part of a deal to buy plumbing. If they can cover that plumbing in gold plate and sell it as an experience, then maybe. Microsoft, on the other hand, has plenty of cash and doesn't mind being a plumber.
- Eric - seven eleven
Trucks? Tubes? Pfft... Autonomous solar-powered drones that dock at giant floating fulfillment center airships are the way to go. Get around the whole state-by-state tax problem once and for all. Just float over them.
- Ken Sheppardson
Plus you tie this in with an app on your Android device and you'd get a little alert that says "You're package is available for delivery... please step outside"... BAM
- Ken Sheppardson
Airspace tax zones would be sure to follow :-) And I think the economics of lifting goods into the air will have to wait for zero-point energy devices.
- Todd Hoff
Lifting goods is cheap on the space pulley. You put a chunk of asteroid on one side and you put a container of goods on the other side. Make sure the asteroid is heavier, and it will go down as the goods go up. You extract the precious metals out of the asteroid and use that money to fund development of your delivery spacecraft, which is orbiting the Earth at supersonic speeds, picking up goods from the space pulley and releasing them at just the right time to hit Ken on the head.
- Amit Patel
I figure eventually they'll just have fab plants on the moon. Solar power turns moon rocks into whatever you need, and the end products get railgunned out of the moon's gravity well and fall straight to your home with a guided descent with last-minute parachute braking. The fun part is that your Amazon Prime cutoff time will be dependent on the moon's relative position to you, so it...
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- Kevin Fox
Since this conversation looks to be officially derailed, I vote for some form of Wonka-Vision to be the distribution method of choice for Amazon prime...
- Ross Miller
Until I parsed "Sprint" I was sure you are talking about the actual warship, you know, Invincible class carrier is now supposedly on closed auction in UK :)
- Michael Bravo
Well, yeah, I guess that ties in with the Amazon sub-thread nicely. They probably are the most likely to be the first to buy a carrier, e.g. http://bit.ly/g55NKr
- Ken Sheppardson
A free online course at Stanford University on artificial intelligence, to be taught this fall by two leading experts from Silicon Valley, has attracted more than 58,000 students around the globe — a class nearly four times the size of Stanford’s entire student body.
- Laura Norvig
from Bookmarklet
I think they were talking about having a Metafilter study group for this? I may join them.
- Meg V. Meg
I don't know about the metafilter thing. I don't have the math chops for this, so I'll just be cheering the experiment on from the sidelines.
- Laura Norvig
My first week at Google (back in '03) I saw emails on the eng mailing list from Peter and I thought to myself 'Norvig... Norvig... Where do I know that name.. Russel-Norvig? My AI textbook? Oh! That's *him*?!" That was the first of many moments when I realized what an awesome place Google would be to work.
- Kevin Fox