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My blog's new design is up: http://scobleizer.com -- more to come soon as I have more fun with my blog again now that it's hosted on a Rackspace server. Thank you to Vid Luther at Rackspace for helping me get it up and running. - Robert Scoble

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lovely Robert but not very unique. I just mean, isn't it based on a fairly popular wordpress theme? - Zee.

Zee: yes, it is. It's the Thesis theme, which is very nice. Great SEO, great foundation. I will be adding more personality to it over time. - Robert Scoble

I like it Robert. Simple yet elegant. :) I recomend trying out the wptouch plugin for a mobile-friendly layout. - Daynah

Surprised you went with Thesis. I was beginning to think it was too old school now that everyone is using it. - Dickie Maxx

I don't want it to be unique right now. I wanted to tear it back down to the basics. Plus, most people read me in an RSS reader anyway so the design doesn't matter that much (or you'll see my posts here on friendfeed or Twitter or Facebook and then you just want to be able to read the damn thing when you get there. - Robert Scoble

It's very plain but professional, it makes you focus on the content more than anything else. - Ahmed

Dickie: it works, which is why everyone is using it. - Robert Scoble

i love the thesis theme, dont get me wrong but i just think someone of your stature should have something custom built or heavily modified to suit you. But that's just me - Zee.

You sometimes produces some great matter worth reading it :) I like Robert too ;) - Mohammad Abdurraafay

Zee: what, the friendfeed component isn't enough custom? Heheh. - Robert Scoble

when i have some time, i'm going to put together a design for ya i reckon. Because although you're not a startup, you do deserve your own scobleized design...something that no one else has - Zee.

Zee: I'm open to it. Now that I understand what's going on in all the pieces I'm more open to playing around. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I like the general concept but I'd like to see a dark frame around the page, instead of the whitish one you tossed in. Second thing I'd use, is the "read-more" break that sends readers into the post instead of reading the entire article in the front page. IMO it's annoying to have such a long Home page. - Nir Ben Yona

its very simple..yet very readable. I like it :) - Saad Kamal

but don't get me wrong, i love the thesis theme - but i just think, as it is and considering who you are, you need something more unique - Zee.

Hey, I love the whitespaces....that's what makes me read blogs.... - Manu Srikumar

Nir: see, that's where I disagree. Most of my readers come from Google Reader, twitter, friendfeed, or later, from search engines like Google. If you are coming there to read a single article you don't want to have to click through. I +HATE+ that about TechCrunch. I assumed they did it to get more page views. I don't care about page views. - Robert Scoble

10 Ways to Customize Thesis and Enhance Your Blog http://tinyurl.com/dkgko8 ;) - Ahmed

It works for what it does: "Inform, Educate and Markets Your Passion" dont worry about design, you can freak it out later on with a flashy design or light colors. Thesis is very flexible, easy and you can create some serious new layout in time. I read you via Google Reader, so most time, I never to blog site anyways, keep experimenting, Tiger Woods broke his great swing to create a new one too, congrats - Jonathan Fleming

Zee: Interesting I would have thought the other way, because who he is that Robert doesnt nee something flashy. Me on the other hand I need something to wow people. - Dickie Maxx

Clean design. Needs a mobile or iPhone viewing option. Also wondered if too many posts showing on frontpage (this might be a consequence if accessing through an iPhone). - http://andrew-long.name

I use Thesis for most of my blogs - from highly customised http://www.websitedoctor.com/ to uncustomised http://sportcrazy.net/ - it's a great theme. I love using hooks - Alastair McDermott

Nice and simple. But it must be way past your bed time. Get some sleep - Tim Child

Hi Robert, i think it works for what you want it for, all your posts and all your updates and social spaces ... i think it works. The only thing i would say is that the social spaces section should fit inside the themes top lines. :) - clairestokoe

By the way, if you didn't catch the Real Time Search panel discussion I linked to there, you should watch that. Very interesting stuff is cooking in that field. - Robert Scoble

"by ADMIN", Robert? And the other articles say 'by on'! Aren't you supposed to be a tech guru? ;) - Shéa Bennett

I like the clean look, but the page is LOOOOOONG and takes a while to load. Maybe a prolific (micro-)blogger like you should go with more of a "newspaper" (or is it "magazine"?) layout (a là Feedly) that highlights articles and topics better. - Grey Drane

Shea: oh, crap. I forgot to log in as myself. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

Grey: most of my posts aren't so long as this one. - Robert Scoble

No, but the page shows a whole long list of full-text posts. - Grey Drane

Mature, newspaperish, classic, back to basics. I do like your previous theme more; the one with you and the camera at the top. - Tomi Itkonen

Grey: I just changed it to only display three posts. Thanks. - Robert Scoble

Personally, I don't like lime green (any citrus colours) with that much white. Layout-wise, I like wider rather than narrow. Otherwise, fine. And the link in this post's title can't be found - http://scobleizer.com/2009... - Mark H

Tomi: I'm going to introduce another banner photo. I will have Guy Kawaski shoot one of me on the Nimitz. - Robert Scoble

Yeah, it loads fast enough for me but excerpts are usually preferable to full articles on the front page. They should be long enough to get your interested in seeing how it finishes, but loads of front-page text can be off-putting. - Shéa Bennett

I'd love to see a live webcam of your browser in the right side - showing how you flip through content as you search for interesting ideas, play on FF, etc - LPH™ and his dog P™

I'm still seeing 10 full-length articles on the front page (not three). - Shéa Bennett

Robert: you got me right, I was referring to TC style, but I do hear ya on this one. That said, you should consider customizing the Thesis, I really liked the previous header [Edit: just noticed you're going to replace the banner photo after all]. - Nir Ben Yona

Shea: it should be three now, sorry. Mark, what link can't be found? It works here. Nir: I will bring back a header soon. - Robert Scoble

No header please Robert. I like the simplicity. - LPH™ and his dog P™

Looks simple and readable. But i read your blog posts in a rss reader - Shuuro

Robert: It's the link in your original post - "Exploring the 2010 web" - I just get "Page not found" and "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria..." - Mark H

Mark, weird. Here that links to this page which works for me: http://scobleizer.com/2009... - Robert Scoble

Clean, streamlined, classic. With utmost respect to Shea, I prefer full articles on blogs with one primary author. I'm there to read a person's perspectives, not browse like a news service. The "by" is reading Admin, which I'd change to Robert...a little more personal. :) Other than that I like the simplicity. Oh, and also like the '2010 Web' theme. Indicates forward thinking without seeming too bandwagon-y - AllisonWagda

Allison: I just changed that, should be working its way through the system now. - Robert Scoble

Allison, you don't think a lot of text can be off-putting, particularly if the first (lead) article is of no interest, and you have to wade down a lot of text/paragraphs to find the next one? I think the excerpt should deliver the hook, and you click through to read more, personally. Each to their own, I guess. :) - Shéa Bennett

Noticed you're posting as "Admin" -- should change that. Otherwise, looking great! - Christopher Golda

Great, then no complaints from here (at least from my 3 a.m. blurry eyes) - AllisonWagda

Its minimalistic and cool. - Zoran Vuletic

Robert, weird indeed. Tried with three browsers (and IE7 didn't like that error page at all - theme not working right there) and they all report the same. Maybe a transparent proxy somewhere along my route to your site. - Mark H

Nice and clean Robert I like it - Jim Lyons

I wish the friendfeed Widget wrapped comments better and also showed my likes and comments on other people's posts. - Robert Scoble

Oh, and I got rid of the green photo. Hope that makes someone happy. :-) - Robert Scoble

Shea, you're totally right, It can be off-putting - especially if you're looking to browse headlines and have to scroll endlessly. Maybe my opinion depends on how often he expects to blog. If more than 2 per day, I could be swayed to your side. If 1-2 per day, I'd rather have it served straight than have to click through to read the rest :) - AllisonWagda

nice clean design but right hand column would look even better if everything was the same width - Anita Hunt

Allison: I would expect to be one to five times a day, with bias toward one post a day. - Robert Scoble

The Facebook Connect feature by Sociable is a neat idea. I might have to look into that. - Shéa Bennett

I'll try to fix the widths in the morning. - Robert Scoble

I found it nice but a bit generic for u. Can I still push for an hand of a light gray on the background? Your profile pic, top right could be more "american". About this latter some Twitter background could inspire :-) - Daniele Beta

Robert: It's possible to get those FF comments in the widget to wrap (as they do with the "likes") -- look at the CSS for .friendfeed.widget .feed .entry .comment - Christopher Golda

Christopher: hmm, I gotta play with the CSS more. I tried playing around with it and couldn't get it to wrap right, but must not have nailed it. - Robert Scoble

Then my vote, FWIW, is for keeping the continuous posts - AllisonWagda

Robert: You have to "overwrite" FriendFeed's CSS for that selector -- specifically the white-space: nowrap. Hope that helps - Christopher Golda

Displaying three to five posts is a good compromise. - Nir Ben Yona

there's more about you than the stuff in the sidebar, your tv stuff, bldg 43 stuff, wikipedia link, etc. am not sure where is the best place to put all that - Tweet Feeds

Tweet: yeah, I'll keep tweaking it and making it simpler/nicer. Thanks to you and everyone for all the feedback! - Robert Scoble

how do you get the disqus comments to show up on FF? - Tweet Feeds

The fact that "It's all you" (minus "your tv stuff, bldg 43 stuff, wikipedia link, etc." as noted above) without bells and whistles is a breath of fresh air in a world where we're marketed to death by brands comnsuming every inch of space. But isn't web simplicity so 1994? (I jest.) - Kim

Kim: hey, they had SOME good ideas back in 1994. :-) - Robert Scoble

Tweet: Disqus is one of the services that friendfeed supports. You've got to add the service to your profile. Click "add/edit" on top of your page. - Robert Scoble

A rock solid header banner and a custom color detail (such as a border) is all you need to add to Thesis. Keep it white. Way to go! - E-Advocate Network

Wait have you not gotten to sleep yet Robert? - Mark Essel

Mark: right, I'm off to bed now. See ya! - Robert Scoble

hehehe, gnight - Mark Essel

Time for me to track down those widgets, too bad you can't have mini interactive friendfeed windows on your blog - Mark Essel

Robert: quick fix for "Admin" posts in Wordpress: Add New User: Robert, full admin rights, logout, login as Robert, Delete User: Admin, assign all posts to user Robert, done. Buy @AMcDermott beer. - Alastair McDermott

Alastair: I just renamed the Admin account to Robert Scoble. Seems to have worked. Did I miss one? - Robert Scoble

Robert: that's another way to do it - your userid is still admin, my way would have removed that (security by almost zero obscurity) ;) - Alastair McDermott

Robert: you also avoid having to buy me beer :( - Alastair McDermott

I like the simplicity; white space is good. Now you need to help the rest of us by, say, turn features such as your FriendFeed setup into WordPress plugins. And I fully agree on the choice of Thesis for a theme; great flexibility. - Jim Courtney

Note to self, switching blog will cost me a night of sleep someday - Mark Essel

Mark: switching to a self-hosted blog running on a good framework is a good investment of time; future proofing yourself - Alastair McDermott

I've been thinking about using the Thesis theme and growing up my blog from there. I like it! About Rackspace, I probably wouldn't need it for something as small as me eh?! I've been considering it, but like I've mentioned, I'm not that big! =) Nice setup. - Elijah Nicolas

You say that building the 2010 web is still too hard for average folks, but what about turn-key "bundles" like ning? - Dr. Headcrash

Wordpress is written in PHP, not Python ;-) - Jesse Stay

Love Thesis. Great theme, great SEO. VERY customizable. Can't wait to see what you do with it. - Bob Linger

Sup Scoble, the theme you've choosed looks a lot like the one i use in my blog, simple, clean and functional. I liked it. By the way, i see you're using the friendfeed widget. A few months ago i've coded for myself a wp plugin that connects to ff api and build a widget from your feed much like that one, with the advantage that's SEO friendly, easier to customize the style and with more... more... - Diego Sana

I thought Disqus would integrate with FriendFeed but perhaps not? There are 90+ comments in here on FriendFeed and only 30 comments in Disqus on the blog? Shouldn't Disqus synchronize both the blog and the FriendFeed thread? - Charbax

Charbax: good point. I need to figure out how to do that. I think Disqus only integrates them if you've added Disqus to your friendfeed account. - Robert Scoble

Quiet, clean, subtle design, not sure it's you, but let us get used to it :) - Michael Metz

mimetz: it's not very personalized, but it does work great on an iPhone! :-) - Robert Scoble

Looks really good on the iPhone, - Hunter

The new design is clean and "textual". Nice! - Rick Cogley

The only think I don't like in your new blog look is the Google Friend Connect bar in the bottom. - Miguel Caetano

I have a 1024 x 768 screen. The blog appears to be set up for a widescreen display. If I zoom out to where it fits on the screen horizontally, the text is too small to read. Sites that require that I either scroll horizontally to read, or adjust both the page zoom and the text zoom separately I often pass on by. - Chuck Baggett

nice! i love thesis - andy brudtkuhl

yeah, thesis is a good one... congrats, looks good - Peter Efland

Ground-breaking article, Robert. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. - Franz Binder

Zee.

Who was your first email account with? Moi. Hotmail...God, that was/is awful.

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karoo for me. - alphaxion

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America Online...wait...no. Prodigy! - Candace

WebTV. - Rochelle

sciboard.louisville.edu or iglou.com, both about the same time. - Tsali, The Native of FF

Local ISP, until I realized the value of webmail. Then yup, it was Hotmail. - Bradley McSpinn

AOL.com, back when Windows 95 was so money it didn't even know it. - Tyler Hayes

First e-mail account was with Sprynet when it was CompuServe's Web-only ISP -- before the AOL buyout! - Jared Smith

wisc.edu - Dave Winer

ecu.edu - Beebo Wallace

Prodigy. - Oliver Ortega Chua

citiz.net - yagami

i don't even remember i think it was planet something or i dunno something like that no wait i don't know why i'm thinking earlyalert.com i don't know i'm probably wrong lol - Cardeen Martinez

crikey, i've never even heard of some of these... - Zee.

A BBS in Morgan Hill. - Rodfather

1st public internet email was via easy.com ... my own domain via ISP I started in 1993. 1st corporate email was 1978 ish internal on our private global DECNET, connected to public Internet in about 1984. - Don Strickland

A shell account in '92, I forget with who. Was BBS'ing for years before that, and they sort of had email. - Bob Morris (polizeros)

wow, very impressive Jason...and Don! - Zee.

Hotmail was my first email provider. - Andrew Trinh

aol - ♥patricia♥

mail.com. Alternative back than was only hotmail (I think, can't remember about yahoo) which totally sucked. I think mail.com is extinct now, but they used to have multiple domains. And I had about 5 different accounts. 4, 5, or 6MB, can't really remember exactly. Wow, the days... This is one example (of many) where I'm very happy we are where we are today. - Vlad Bobleanta

I can't remember. Possibly Yahoo, but I think Yahoo may have come later... - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

Compuserve, then "Niftyserve" the licensee of Compuserve here in Japan. We have it so good now! - Rick Cogley

Hotmail, way back in 1998 (although before that I had an ISP email through Frontier) - Brandon Mendelson

AOL. - Laura B.

Erols Internet (no longer exists) - Bryan Penczak

AOL. I shutter at the thought - BCK

PSU.edu, 1989 - Dave Roth

Toronto FreeNet. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I can't remember. Some bbs with uunet =) - ld

Michigan State University - Steve Lowe

Yahoo mail. Still have it but its been so spamefied I hardly use it anymore. - TkFromWestSide

My employer - Tualatin Valley Fire & Rescue - circa 1984. - Gary Walter (gwalter)

Hotmail - Tim Keneipp

Prodigy in 1991, followed shortly thereafter by AOL 1.0 for the Mac, then Compuserve. And finally a POP internet dialup with Chicago's Interaccess in about 1992 after getting Adam Engst's Internet starter kit book that came with a copy of the Mac/TCP control panel on a 3 1/2" floppy. - Adam Turetzky

Prodigy, then AOL - Robert Kenney

My first was at work. heamin@sunshine.vab.unisysgsg.com -- no joke. Then I had an alumna account with Virginia Wesleyan, and then I think I picked up a yahoo account. My first web site was on geocities, and it was so kewl for its time, too. :-) - Ladybug Heather

AOL - Derrick

<- AOL - Costa Walcott

AOL then Juno - Violet Mae Lim

drexel.edu and compuserve - Peter Ghosh

Technically, my first email address was on an internal mail service for a large corporation back in 1991, but it was possible to email other people on the internet with a byzantine series of pipes, slashes, gateways and hostnames. My first personal email on the internet proper was with a regional dialup service called pics.com in 1992. - dthree

Pixi.net - Trish Haley

I forget the exact name, but it was local and called Charlotte's Web. I live in Charlotte, NC. - Matthew

75106,3139 - Leo Laporte

I want to say Compuserve - BASEnet

whats 75106,3139? - Zee.

74127,2227 - Christopher Barnes

aol - Computerwhiz1

Those are Compuserve addresses Zee - Adam Turetzky

AOL - Gabe Diaz

Prodigy - Nick Smith

Oof. CompuServe! - Akiva Moskovitz

ah, interesting - thanks Adam - Zee.

My first was a VAX server at lamar.edu but I quickly shifted to an Ultrix machine also at lamar.edu. So, lamar.edu. - Akiva Moskovitz

webtv. - Nation Hahn

Yay Nation Hahn! - Rochelle

aol - Russ Jackson

76020,702 lol, had to look mine up! - Adam Turetzky

I had brlewis@mit.edu in 1986 way before there ever was such a thing as spam. Now there's probably not a single spammer's list out there that doesn't have that address. I still log in there occasionally. - Bruce Lewis

netcom - Scott Slade

A tiny, local ISP here in Vermont call Kingdom Connection. I was one of the first 25 subscribers I think, and I still have my original e-mail address. Scary. - Bob M. Montgomery

Mine was AOL. Man that was a long time ago.. - David van Sunder from Nambu

Hotmail for me as well. Recalling this alone makes me nauseous. ;-) - Dan Dashnaw

I had a Hotmail account as well. Never again. - Diego Espinoza V.

columbia.edu - Morton Fox

geez... I can't even remember. - Jim Hearts FF

umich.edu - Ken Sheppardson

Prodigy. Then AOL. Then Berkeley.edu followed by Earthlink.net, Home.com, ATTBI.com, and then Mac.com. (Also in there, GMail, Excite, Netscape, and work accounts, etc.) - Louis Gray

Hotmail - Sometime in 1997 I think. My first email account for work was in 1998. - David Yarnell

AOL. I was so excited to get Hotmail because at the time, it was cooler than AOL. Heh. Then Yahoo and now Gmail. And that's it, not counting work/school accounts. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Prodigy. - Anika

tamu.edu before that I was on some BBS's with RelayNet mail. In 1988 I got a 9600 baud modem and I'm telling you it was so fast. - Jeff

crap whatever we had at college before the internet had pictures or an internet. :) We could send messages between colleges though - Steve C

Probably Mindspring. - Tendonitis' Bitch

Mine was AOL over my 2400 baud modem. - Allen Blair

<student id>@<sydney university undergrad domain), then something at extro.com.au which was the Sydney University dial up provider then good ol iname.com. I thought that would be my non service provider bound email address, till they decided to charge for it. Thank god for gmail. - Tom Horn

Compuserve was my first Internet email address. - Gary Walter (gwalter) from fftogo

email.com - Alex Scrivener

Hotmail I'm ashamed to say. - Daniel Drysdale from Nambu

web mail? Gmail. Otherwise Carleton U - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Hotmail as well :( - Drew Lucas

Genie - Randy Caldwell

yahoo - oooh forgot about Juno! - BEX

Actually, my first email was with MCI*Mail. NOT internet email. The next one was Compuserve. Still not internet. My first internet account was on a server at my employer in Austin. - Glen Campbell, B.A.

My math prof gave me an account on a NeXT box. - Hiro Asari

ISP provider, bellsouth.net, I then upgraded to Hotmail. lol - Sharon McPherson

CompuServe :) - d4RKrITU4L from Nambu

@MSN.com.. Yup MSN was my first provider. It was them or AOL, and I knew better. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Compuserve was my first "email" (not internet) and nassau community college was my first internet email address - Bastard Operator From FF

A local ISP called Jetlink. - Stan Augustyniewicz

Alta Vista - Brent - Long Live Rock

My first email address that I used, but didn't control was gmail. My primary address and everyone I've had has been in my own house. - Dustin Sallings

Hotmail. 2MB. Remember that? - David Damore

Mississippi State University. 1990 or 1991... (might have been 89) - Internet's Tad

rocketmail.com - James Beake

AOL - Kim Landwehr from BuddyFeed

stanford.edu - Paola Bonomo

aol - David Dudley

Yahoo - haven't used it for many years now. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

My employer, Microsoft. 1983 - Rod Bauer from twhirl

my very first was in the early 1980s at Uof Penn, my first online email was hotmail - Monique

Hotmail. - Steven Perez

University in '94. didn't know what email was before that. - mikepk

*.syr.edu '90ish. bbs handles since 80s - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Back in Romania, when the whole Internet thing was just showing up there (1993?), a VAX/VMS machine (roearn.ici.ac.ro, also ROEARN on Bitnet) - Tudor Bosman

Prodigy. Before that I was on BBS which was my first chatroom, a lot of people trying to log into a room that would only fit 8. Good times. - zephyrlily

deeptht.armory.com, a local SCO box. still have the account: http://www.armory.com/~peter/ - coffee

AOL of course - Keith - @tsudo

Well my first email was hotmail in like 2004, but before that, our family account was yahoo which was around 94/95 (which i think it was better UI then vs today) now i use gmail for everything! - Bryce Campbell

yep hotmail - Dobromir Hadzhiev

usa.net - Petr Buben

The University of Leeds in 1997, closely followed by Yahoo Mail in the same week. I still have the Yahoo account but only use it to log into Flickr. - Martin Bryant

Compuserve...over and over again with those 30 day trials :) - Mark Krynsky

usa.net (netaddres) - Toni @ NavinoT

On the WWW it was msn.com but I was on BBS before then and the address was something like portofcall.net - Kol Tregaskes

Back at my college (ISU) in the early 90's. Used Pine on a Unix server. - Ward Seward

Hotmail for me too. Amazing that it's still so popular - Gee Ranasinha

Two at same time, utk.edu for work and hotmail for personal, I actually still use that hotmail acct. - Brytne from Nambu

Why is everyone hating on Hotmail? Oh yeah, I know, it's cool to bash MS. It was and is one of the better webmails out there. My first was yahoo.co.uk - Matt Hall

not for sure but i am guessing hotmail maybe yahoo - (jeff)isageek

AOL. - teh Dork Knight

yahoo - Alfredo

Luukku, it's finnish email service. Not really good... - Kristian Salonen

AOL for sure -- had one under my parents' account, probably early to mid 90s. Signed up for Hotmail in 1997 when I was in college (still have that account, though I really never use it). Of course, I had a standard-issue "geneseo.edu" college account starting in 1996 when I started college. - mark

umich.edu - DGentry

cmich.edu - l.m.orchard from twhirl

Actually, I lie, cmich.edu was my second - some funky FidoNet address leading to a BBS was the first. - l.m.orchard from twhirl

erols out of Maryland then hotmail then gmail with an occasional visit to yahoo mail cause they made me have a yahoo mail account for yahoo IM and other Yahoo properties (flickr). - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

AOL, then freeserve! *1998 face* - Iain Baker

Internal mail in my high school in 94, using Pegasus. Signed up for Hotmail in 95 I think. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I think it was yahoo or usa.net - Shamir Ramjan

worldnet (does not exist anymore, french provider) - Olivier

CompuServe (72740,114) c. 1989, ysu.edu c. 1993 - Michael McKean

Mine was with Hotmail too. :-/ - Ben LaMothe

Compuserve, then Demon and well.com - Fraser Smith

It was "pobox.sk" <- clever name for an email for that time :) abandoded them after some other guys has offered pop3 for free. History long gone. - Dušan Šimonovič

Local ISP and then Hotmail. - Kevin Bondelli

OMG am I as old as Leo Laporte? LOL no, but I had an email account at Rutgers Univ that was numbers (I don't remember what it was though) & then Prodigy was my first - PCChick. funny I'm a mac girl now. - Lynette Young

Local ISP then Hotmail and Yahoo! mail. - Ninh Nguyen

Hotmail, at the time it was good compated to everyone else, then went down the toilet fast, it's better these days but I prefer my Gmail account thank you. - Eric Fisher

Compuserve. I AM NOT A NUMBER! - John Craft

yahoo...still use it, but hate its non-existent spam filter...gmail is still the best at spam cleaning...i have hotmail for msn, but recently they've improved the mail feature, so i use more often now - brainno722 (Peter)

Compuserve (73000,673 if memory serves me right)... and some other obscure usenet type account through a local BBS. - Carlos Granier-Phelps

CompuServe in 1979 (70040,104). - George Brickner

BTW, the CompuServe addresses were known as PPNs (Project Programmer Number). - George Brickner

Hotmail - Damond Nollan

prodigy, if I remember correctly - Chieze Okoye

yep, I was on prodigy too for a couple of months, then Rjcc @aol and i've been using that nick for 13~ years now - Richard Lawler

AOL, back in the day - Matthew Allen Horton

hotmail - Rudolf Olah

Promenade aka AOL, probably. But I've had Hotmail for 10 years -- I got an email celebrating my decade with Hotmail a few weeks ago. - Tamar Weinberg

AOL - Katie: Witch Of The West

Hotmail :( - Mitra_s

uchicago.edu, then nytimes.com finally got my deasil.com address about a year after school and have had that ever since. :) - felix

mine was hotmail too. - Thom Allen

Used excite for a long time, until yahoo and google started theirs up and actually offered some sort of spam protection. - Matt Thompson from fftogo

Juno - Martha

Hotmail. Agree it was awful! I can't believe I ever thought it was okay for the first page of my email client to be a page filled with ads, as opposed to the actual inbox. - Jess Lee

Compuserve. I don't think it was possible to send formatted text outside of Compuserve back then. - howard shippin

TSO, which started out as tso.uc.edu but eventually became tso.cin.ix.net. - Wirehead

UUCP email account at Bell Labs, reached via something like ucbvax!ihnp4!...!fcy Then an account at mcs.net, a Chicago area ISP. - Fred Yankowski

MyOwnEmail.com. I don't know if they're even still around. - James Ferguson

I can't remember if I did juno or hotmail first. I think juno.... - EricaJoy

Mine was with netins.net because they offered toll-free dial-up access in the Spring of 1995 - Michael K Pate

My first email was at my job at Sybase in 1993. - Lisha Sterling from twhirl

aol when I was in 5th grade. Username: hawaiiman2. Cuz hawaii is like cool and stuff. - Daniel Morgan

cix UK - John Francis

cs.berkeley.edu - Piaw Na

I guess my first e-mail account was with my ISP, but the first web based e-mail account was good ol' hotmail. - Jeremy

AOL *facepalm* - Mike Lewis

I think it was AOL or Compuserve - Shevonne

AOL, Delphi or Compuserve, dunno - I partied a lot between then and now. - jcunwired

LOL @Leo!! - jcunwired

My first public email account was with MCI Mail (in the eon of X.25). My first email on a TCP/IP network was with Netcom. - Lorin Olsen

not sure, usa.net or hotmail.com - Gökmen Karasu

Compuserve, then when AOL bought them, Netcom, which was bought by Mindspring, who then was bought by Earthlink - William Harryman

The US government. - Alex Scoble

Hotmail, not msn hotmail. just "Hotmail" - irfan ÖZTÜRK

Same here: pre-MSN Hotmail. - josh neff, Fun Dip of FF

MSN.com -- I was a beta tester for the MSN network during it's Windows 95 Launch. I had FREE dialup access during the extended beta testing period. - Anthony K. Valley ©

AOL - I HAD MAIL! - Mona Nomura

Mine was a free email account from a local ISP (community.net). - Beau "Slick Foot" Liening

oh shit... it must've been Compuserve, although I don't remember if I had real email in there.If not, Yahoo Mail was the first portal mail I had (and I had jungleg@yahoo.com, but then lost it for some reason and couldn't get it back) - Jorge Escobar

uh.edu, then hotmail. - Arlan Koizumi

UUCP email on unix .. circa 86 - Peter Dawson

comunista@aol.com - i thought it was funny. - mike

starwarsbuff@hotmail.com - yeah, that was back in middle school. LOL - Mike Templeton

Mindspring.com - Darrell Bell from twhirl

hawaii.edu - Josh Haley

aol - Amber, Random Time Lord

Aol huuuh - Marie Jubin from Nambu

Admittedly - AOL. - AJ Kohn

@tamu.edu - Carlos M. Gomes

AOL > Compuserve > Burntmail - Kevin Pruett

first email account was @andrew.cmu.edu & first webmail was with lycos! - Matyjas from fftogo

USA.net - Helen Sventitsky

Prodigy! Oh wow. That was a long time ago. I remember I had some 25 cents an e-mail plan. I used to get in trouble from my parents when I went over my allotted amount. I can't imagine paying 25 cents an e-mail today. - Jennifer Mitchell

execpc.com. haha. - David Chartier from BuddyFeed

Hotmail, and I think it was 1995. - cecily

Compuserve - Bryan R. Adams

pitt.edu, then netaxs.com. - B. Hatin

Penn State University - Ernie Oporto

My graduate school, University of Kentucky. It was on VMS. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

hotmail - Dane Findley

angelfire - Rachel Lea Fox

Hotmail, but they closed it due to inactivity. I wish I still had it, though. It's impossible to get my name anywhere now. - Michael Fidler

Yahoo. Now I'm in gmail and I love it... - Amy H.

Local ISP, Connect2 I think was the name. Haha. Didn't even have 56K internet speed yet at the time. First web based email was Hotmail before Microsoft acquired it. - Rolf Schewe

Other than my Bell Labs account? Delphi. Fun-ky... - John Blossom

AOL and then Hotmail....two real winners.....not! - Bonnie Foster

hotmail 1995 - Muge Cerman

mail.com *shrug* XD - Bicentennial (Franc)

AOL -> Yahoo -> gmail - imabonehead

Hotmail for me. I haven't used it in 3 years. - Michael Forian

My first emailaddress was at my own designstudio: hoofdcommissaris@cops.nl (meaning 'chief of police') And brought me my nickname Hoof (or Hoof99). - Ruud van Wijngaarden

hotmail - Bill Hice

@msstate.edu, my university in 1996? - Phillip Stewart

Messaging on the Univac in late 70s probably, at the college. BITNET, HEPNET, ARPANET in late 1980s. (Ignoring the BBS phenom of 80s.) EDU & GOV 1989+ My own domain I hosted around 1994. NEVER AOL or that fake-Internet stuff of the mid-90s. Ewww! After years of GOV, moved to COM at work in 1999. Started using GMAIL for all my personal mail when that was in Beta. I now have about 20 domains forward to GMAIL. - John Johnson

not counting university and school, or BBSes? My first email account would then have been jnebbe@ibm.net (back the first time when IBM did internet services) - they were one of the few to have reasonable dial up plans with a multi-country presence - and I was using OS/2 a lot then too. After it got bought by ATT and they changed the address, I decided that I would always have my own domain for email, so I would never lose people because I lose an email. Hosted it myself for years, now it's all with fastmail - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Yahoo. God bless Gmail! - Özgür Akman

"pipeline". anachronistic friend still has email account with them. - Marg Uerite

it was either aol or nyonline - Lynne d Johnson

Hotmail. Still have it. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Hotmail...then I transferred to Gmail - Nicholas James

AOL for me... horrible. - Michelle

Yeah, hotmail. Not great is it... - Rich

yahoo, broke before I could use it then got a Hotmail - Yant

Cee Bee

clark little photography - http://www.clarklittlephotography.com

March 25 - Comment - Like - Share

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love! - BEX

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Crap Shore Breakers... HURT! - CW™

his site is pretty cool though i wish photographers wouldn't watermark their pictures. i know why they do it, but it takes away from the really great photos - Cee Bee

specializing in shorepound! - Ňicķ

i wonder how many times he's gotten really caught up in a bad wave - Cee Bee

San Onofre SB had shore breakers with pebbles on the beach. Hurt like a motherF'r. Granted the water was warm from the near by Nuclear Plant. - CW™

fantastic shots! - Chieze Okoye

I rode a 20 footer like that in Hawaii on a boogie board... Dropped me straight onto the sand, and then proceeded to drench me with 3 million gallons of water... In retrospect, I'm probably lucky to be alive right now. - LarchOye

that might be "thrilling" the first time around, but after continually getting pounded like that i'm sure it can become a bit of a "challenge" to deal with - Cee Bee

Those first two pictures are amazing - Benno

Wow! - Adriana E. Reyes

Whoa! Cool! - Dread Pirate PJ

I would love to know how people get shots like this. - Kevin Pedraja

OMGosh! - Kol Tregaskes

Kevin, look at the last picture. He has a waterproof housing for the camera. - Jauder Ho

psst Harold, I bet you'll like these... - Kamilah Gill

I wonder how he wiped his lens between shots? - Johnny Worthington

OMG... amazing pics... - Harold

I just opened it up. Those *are* cool. I know those are the pics you want to take sometime, Harold. - Kamilah Gill

wow. very cool. - Trish Haley

MORE! He needs an RSS. Although that would defeat the purpose of him selling prints from his gallery...oh well. - sofarsoShawn

Very impressive :O - Joe Dawson

nice please large size - mostafa

WTF ! how did he...nevermind - cihanergur

wow....absolutely stunning. more please! :) - Ebm

I'm typeless. Unbelievable shots. What photographic talent... ok so I found a few words:) - Dave

wOoOw - Bius

This makes me so home sick. I miss the the ocean. - Miranda

Beautiful photography. Had me memorized. - TranceMist

Dang watermarks :( I can't save any as my desktop wallpaper! - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

Amazing stuff! - Bill Pennington from twhirl

I have an appreciation for how tough those shots are to capture. Incredible! - Rick Bucich

AMAZING! - AJ Batac

Imágenes Impresionantes - wonderful images - Juan Carlos Sánchez

WOW! - Shandiz

WoW!!! - MohammadReza

It's not just Moses that can part the sea. - Justin Wah Kan

Does anyone know if there are bigger versions of there? They would make wicked Wallpaper! - Garin Kilpatrick

If you like them, tell him: http://www.clarklittlephotography.com/contact... - Brian Johns

Great! - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

Some really nice photos and the colors are fantastic - Thomas V. Fischer from twhirl

wonderful!! - Palak Mathur

that's some serious shore break right there! Reminds me of Sandy Beach on the east side of O'ahu. - Josh Haley

Astounding! - ursi

Amazing! - Jorg Jansen

wow! ok! - MAHDi

Christophe Lauer

Mon taux de RT vs tweet commence à devenir préoccupant. Le CLaueR passerait en mode ReadMostly sur Twitter ? Hmmm

March 26 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Paul Buchheit

Example of Twitter titles vs Blog post titles (people tend to put better content in their tweets)

March 3 - Comment - Like - Share

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Some people do :) - Bwana ☠

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maybe this is due to the shortness imposed by tweeter, people have to say meaningful and precise thing in a short stream, this is why brevity and idea encapsulation work on twitter. - abdellah

But in this case he said more on twitter than in the blog post title. - Paul Buchheit

yes, but in the twitter message there is the need to point to the article, so this is why the headline have to be significant catchy and strong, in the blog the author think that he get his audience then the headline is less powerful. - abdellah

Actually, I think it's just because Twitter encourages a more conversational tone, which is generally better than the usual title/subject "tone". - Paul Buchheit

Limitation encourages more creativity - John Samuel

better then !! resume the stuff, better from what point of view? it is better from the point that the twitter one is more appealing and this is the main job to do. in the blog post the headline have just to push people to read more, a better test would be to inverse I mean to post the blog headline as a tweet and the tweet as blog post headline :) and I agree limitation encourage creativity. - abdellah

sounds like people need to think more about what their blog titles are. I've tried over the past six months specifically to think about how my blog title will be shared alone other places. - Thomas Hawk

I agree, it is must likely that people in twitter will click the Link, it is more personal than choosing your post title. It would be a good Idea to check the titles on the post vs the tweets that led to them to see the whole picture. 10x - Iaax Page

Sounds like he said it all in the tweet ?- makes you wonder why there was a blog posting at all. Neither the tweet nor the blog post title makes me want to read on so if the goal is to encourage reading the blog post I think both fail. - Brian Sullivan

Agree with Brian... - Saurabh Arora

I stopped pushing my blog feed to Twitter and FF. I think it is more personal (and people are more apt to click) if I do the linking by hand with some context around it. However, I don't think I'd do what Matt did and add the 'short summary' bit. - Scott Kingery

Before syndication, blog post titles were ornamental. Mine are often a convoluted pun that only makes sense after you've read the entry (like Diesel Sweeties does, only not as funny). I'm always horrified to see FF posting the title without any content, because they were never intended to stand on their own. (It's probably time to acknowledge the growing contexts and start writing more independent titles.) - Seth

"I'm always horrified to see FF posting the title without any content" A good blog post title absolutely should work on its own, without any further context... what Nielsen and others call microcontent http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... (edited the article to include Nielsen's definition). Whether it should give away everything is another question. If you're interested in Matt Cutts' writings in general, his book review title is pretty self-explanatory and might get you interested to click-through by - Philipp Lenssen

Best Practice may be to have nice summaries in your blog feed. Matt's feed, for example, has limited-length excerpts from the post. If he added it as a Generic post with the proper checkbox checked that summary would appear as the first comment. Not ideal, but better than just the title... - Kevin Fox

Kevin - any idea whether the 'Excerpt' box on wordpress would serve this function? I never put anything in there. - Hutch Carpenter

You could also implement MediaRSS on your feed for an even bigger punch. Example: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mark Trapp

I use MediaRSS and summaries in our Antarctica feed: http://friendfeed.com/kfury... I don't know if WordPress's 'Excerpt' functionality matches up with this, but I think so. I'm about to start using WP full time for my personal blog, so I'll definitely be checking it out. - Kevin Fox

Cool - I'll try adding an Excerpt to my next post, see what happens. - Hutch Carpenter

I use Drupal, but from observation of people on FriendFeed using WordPress, I believe you might need a plugin for Media RSS support. - Mark Trapp

Yeah Mark, and it's spotty and undependable... - anna sauce

I think it's fair to say that a title should stand on its own as a title, but it's not reasonable to expect titles to be summaries. Feed items can explicitly contain a summary. If one is provided, great! If not, why not show a snippet of the content? - Seth

Katie: Witch Of The West

To The Tweeple.

$C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\My Documents\My Pictures\twotter.JPG$

January 30 - Comment - Like - Share

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Must retweet this... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

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@Meredith: Thanks for sharing this!! - Katie: Witch Of The West

Hey, I resemble that remark :) - Michelle Martinez

OH: People that tweet everything they see and hear have no...heyyyyyy! - Josh Haley

It's like this card was written FOR me. :-/ - Jon, the Beartato of FF

That's so on-target. - Ciaoenrico

Yeah my little sister made me feel like a big fat loser when she sent this to me... so I had to share the feeling of loserdom by forwarding it to Katie! LOL! - Meredith

Yes, Meredith. We can be losers together! Thank your sister for me :o) - Katie: Witch Of The West

Spidra, that's a good idea actually. If they took the time to send this to me, why couldn't they just come over instead? - Jon, the Beartato of FF

This is me, and I take no shame in it. - Mike Nayyar

Thomas Hawk

10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

January 22 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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I wish there was a AIR client for FF though. - barl0w

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Twhirl works well for FF and it's an AIR client. - Bob M. Montgomery from twhirl

Great article. I want to learn more about the dumping the RSS feeder part. You should share some tips with that. Good stuff. - Amani

Love seeing FF through the eyes of someone who's not a traditional techie =) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Thanks Bob! - barl0w

A big part of why I wrote this post and have it running in my number one photo spot on Flickr right now is because I want more of my photography friends to sign up for the service. I *love* seeing photos here on FriendFeed and there are so many talented photographers who are not here yet who need to be. If we can get more of them to sign up, you guys will love their work. Of course there are many great photographers already on here but still a lot more who could join. - Thomas Hawk

I had to re-share this with all my FB friends. :) - Kelly W.

Still trying to figure out this whole friendfeed experience. I've had the account for a while and see lots of my twitter friends posting via ff - Demetri Mouratis

great piece! - mashable

Hi Demetri =) Different people use FF different ways because they want to get different things out of it. What are you hoping to get out of it? - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Thanks for the tip. I had FF but really never 'got' what it was for. This helped! - Molly Nichelson from twhirl

Great work. - Nation Hahn

Nice post Thomas. - Paul Wade

TH - for those photographers that are not on here, I put their flickr id into my Flickr Imaginary friend and see their images that way. However, it would be nice to get more photographers on here with their reader shares and such... - Justin Korn

This is definitely the best "Why Friendfeed" post I've seen. - Nick in Manila

Justin, agreed. I have a bunch of imaginary friend accounts for Flickr/Zooomr users as well. But it is nicer when they actually have accounts here, their work can be liked and commented to the larger FF community, etc. It seems like a few new people signed up today based on this post so I'm happy for that. Thanks Nick! - Thomas Hawk

I have AlertThingy FriendFeed Edition as well as AlertThingy v2 -

Well said, Thomas. :) - Josh Haley

Nice list of reasons, all well thought out. While I'm at it, I wanted to tell you that I really like your new blog design too. - Karoli

Good point on getting a domain you like. - Kevin Whalen

Do most folks use FF in Standard or Real-time view mode? - Scott Loftesness

Only ever real-time.. it sits nicely on the second monitor as a Chrome App. - Greg Gannicott

Realtime here... - Chris Gulker

Did you just reformatted your post, Thomas? It a lot easier to scan through now. - Alan Le

Alan, a lot of times I post first and edit later. I probably shouldn't do that, but yeah, after posting I broke up some of the paragraphs better, bolded a few things etc., to make it easier to read. - Thomas Hawk

That's great. Make sure to check out Windows Live Writer for formatting blog posts if you haven't already yet. By the way, I love the new blog design. It's much better than when I helped you with the html way back. http://thomashawk.com/2006... - Alan Le

Barlow, Im currently developping an Adobe AIR tool for FriendFeed: we comin' ! - David Guyon

Y'know... I must've spent two months randomly Tweeting things like "Will someone PLEASE explain to me why I should be using FriendFeed?" ... And then two days ago I start using my account (I'd had one for a while)... and NOW someone finally makes a post outlining why I should be here. You're two days late, Mr. Hawk, two days late. :P - Lou

actually, there's no search for Russian word forms on Frf. For me that looks as if there's no search at all - orie

hmmm.. I didn't know that orie. It seems like there is a lot of international users on FF, that's surprising to me. - Thomas Hawk

I've been trying to make sense of FF for months now, but every time I come away confused. As it is I feel like I'm drowning under all the social networking sites available. I use Twitter, Plurk and Facebook the most, and I use Ping.fm so I only have to post status updates once. How can I integrate FF into this without making things even more confusing? - Chris Taylor

oooh! I found the zooomr version of this post with no formatting and I whined somewhere else in my FF feed. This one with all the formatting is better :D - Tamar Weinberg

Friendfeed rocks! - rampantheart

I really liked how you did a post on Flicker - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside

All good reasons but #10 is my #1 reason :) - Mark Krynsky

Mark - agreed. Also, Thomas ... very nice blog. I like. - Amani

Good post Thomas. I was thinking it would be hard to find 10 points, but I agree with all your points, and am sure there are probably many more. - Peter Efland

@Tamar, the unformated text was a problem on the Zooomr image. Kristopher's fixed that bug now so text in descriptions on Zooomr photos should format correctly now. - Thomas Hawk

I wasn't using FF, but signed up after your post. Now let's see if it is really so useful ;-) - Marcel Körner

@Marcel also take into consideration who you are subscribed to. Aside from maybe four on your current sub list, they are not very active at all on FF. This will affect your experience here. - Carlos Ayala

Didn't know there was a "Porn" room on FF (see screenshot)... - David Young

how did you see that they are not active on FF? - Marcel Körner

David, the "porn" room on FriendFeed isn't all that active actually. I'm not really interested in porn per se, just thought it was a good group name to claim in the great FriendFeed land group name grab of 2008. - Thomas Hawk

@Marcel by their numbers, and the fact that i know most of them and can tell you first hand that they are not. (if you hover over people's names you will see their numbers) - Carlos Ayala

Robert Scoble

My First FlipCamHD video - http://scobleizer.com/2009...

January 12 from Scobleizer -- Tech geek... - Comment - Like - Share

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Went out there to check out the quality of the video and it seems you have the server hammered. What are you overall thoughts on the device. Looking to get one for family usage. - Sloan Bowman

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I'd love to see what iMovie '09's anti-shake algorithm would do with that. - Kevin Fox

Sloan: I like the small size of the FlipCam. A camera that gets taken with you takes more video and provides more value. The Kodak has slightly better video quality and takes AA batteries. - Robert Scoble

got mine literally in transit now, my 3rd flip cam - sean percival

How do you like the audio on those two cameras? The Kodak Zi6 audio sounded good when Chris Pirillo and Steve Garfield used it, but they were in environments with little background noise. - Bruce Lewis

Which Kodak are we talking about? - Missionary Broadcasting

These pocket cams are too expensive for what you get. $200 is a lot for crappy webcam quality video that doesn't take pictures. Also, the CMOS sensor causes a very noticable 'wobbly' video from the rolling shutter and slow processor. On the other hand, the CCD sensor on digicams aren't good for video either since you'll get purple streaks in high contrast scenes and a lot of noise in indoor/low-light. - Rodfather

Bruce: the audio works great. I have older FlipCam which I use here: http://www.kyte.tv/scobleizer and the audio is great as long as you stay close to the subject. Missionary: Kodak Zi6. - Robert Scoble

Rodfather: what would you recommend then? - Robert Scoble

Robert: 2 questions. Is the mic on the Kodak Zi6 as good as the mic on the Flip Ultra? IS the low light performance as good on the Kodak Zi6 as on the Flip Ultra? I remember reading in a review that the low light shooting on the Kodak is not on par with the Flip. - Gregg H.

I'd recommend a digicam from Samsung at the moment. They are cheap, take decent pics, and record in h.264. The NV24HD has a wide 24mm lens, but the main drawback is the sound cuts off when zooming. Still, it's cheap, small, has optical image stabilization, optical zoom, takes SD cards, and shoots in multiple video resolutions. - Rodfather

Greggish: I don't know. I will try to do a review. Mike Arrington is testing a few out too and we're going to Davos together. Rodfather: I'll get a Samsung too. They looked very nice at CES. - Robert Scoble

Robert - you never listen. :P The Flip HD is one of the *WORST* of these types of cameras, dude. You got taken. The Creative Vado kicks the shit out of the Flip Mino HD. - l0ckergn0me

Robert makes a good point that having the camera with you all the time provides more value. These are small enough to put in your pocket wherever you go, and to use for things you might not have thought of without them. Great if the next gen has some sort of always-available connectivity. - Tom Landini

Rodfather: It sounds good on paper to use the video mode of a digicam. But I've found that the movie mode on even the better digicams lack when it comes to adjusting to changing light conditions. When moving to bright light you get wash out. When moving to low light you get an almost black screen. Quickly adjusting to light changes and shooting in low light is something the Flip does exceptionally well, even if the image quality is not very high. - Gregg H.

l0ckergnome: OK, I'll get a Creative Vado. I didn't pay for a FlipHD yet. - Robert Scoble

@Greggish. Ya it really depends on your use. The processor for the Mino handles light well and with the CMOS sensor, is generally better in low light. Don't get me wrong, I like these, but it's coming to a price point where I'd look into other options with more features. These are geared for ease of use and portability. - Rodfather

Flip didn't send me mine, either - I wasted good money on it. I've done quite a few comparison tests, and the Vado tops 'em all (certainly, against the Flip). - l0ckergn0me

http://chris.pirillo.com/2008... - l0ckergn0me

Or, for an outdoors / color saturation comparison, you'll see the Kodak compares favorably to the Vado: http://chris.pirillo.com/2009... - l0ckergn0me

Chris I really hate that you use a weird spelling of l0ckergn0me here. Makes it hard to reference you on posts so usually I don't even try. Anyway, thanks, I put a link to your review in my blog and will get a Creative too. - Robert Scoble

I'm still going strong with my Canon Powershot TX1 ;) HD ftw. Everybody get a Vado. Vamos a Vado. - Bwana ☠

The Flip Mino HD has great video quality, but it the lens is surprisingly narrow. You never feel that you can fit everything in frame. I have some comparison videos between it and the cheap ($110) Memorex HD cam: http://simsbox.net/p18 - Daniel Sims

I've tried them all. FlipHD the best, but I've been somewhat frustrated with upload time. - Pete Blackshaw

I have tried 3 brands of HD palmcorders including FlipMinoHD and prefer the Kodak Zi6. Zi6 has higher quality video at 60fps, has real HD out with component cables, larger screen, and still photo capability. Mino does have the advantage on size and charges from USB. Also, watch out if you expect to play the HD videos on a standard netbook. I blog about that here: http://budurl.com/HDcam - Patrick Moorhead

Thomas Hawk

Second Wave of Flickr/Getty Invites Being Sent “En Masse” - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

Flickr and Getty Images Begin Inviting Select Flickr Photographers Into Their Joint Stock Photography Business

January 21 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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I just got mine! Now to see what it entails... - Jauder Ho

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congrats Jauder. How many of your photos are they interested in? - Thomas Hawk

9. But they have some odd selections IMO. - Jauder Ho

FYI, upon reading the Contributer Agreement, it looks like the payment schedule goes from 20 to 30 percent depending on how the image is licensed. Getty gets to keep a good chunk of the money. - Jauder Ho

Alright, couple more observations after submitting an image. 1) Getty currently does not read IPTC/EXIF from the image thus requiring you to re-enter data. 2) Getty does not import the associated tags from Flickr 3) I am hoping that Flickr will eventually have some sort of "License this image from Getty" link on each photograph that is submitted and accepted. - Jauder Ho

Quite a few invitations went out ~1400 over the span of the two rounds. I got one. I'm going to be writing about what I've learned about the program tonight. Stay tuned. - Jim Goldstein

No invite for me. Should I be sad? - Paula W

Paula, they are inviting in waves so you still might get one. - Jauder Ho

nah, Paula, don't worry about it. I haven't gotten one either. ;) - Thomas Hawk

Why I'm not taking part http://tinyurl.com/jmg-gal... - Jim Goldstein

hmmm, my invite must have gotten stuck in one of the intartubez, too... - vicster

I'm not too impressed with this program, and not just because I haven't gotten an invite. It seems incredibly restrictive - they want exclusive rights (I can't even sell my own prints?), and no creative commons allowed? Lame. - Eric P

I simply don't get why Flickr just didn't build a stock photography option in house - let all photographers opt-in any and/or all of their photos to sell as stock through Flickr, to anyone who wants to commercially license the work. Flickr has the biggest and best organized database of photos in the world - why they keep outsourcing that value to third parties is beyond me. - Eric P

Eric, I agree. It could have been built much better by Flickr themselves, but I don't think the momentum or the legal clearance was there behind the project at Yahoo. It's unfortunate. I'm still waiting and reserving judgment on this program until I better see how it works and operates. - Thomas Hawk

I too would have preferred a Flickr Stock site. But failing that, I'm going the route of one of the replies to Jim's post, which is to submit a couple of pictures which in my mind are not the best of your collection. I would also point out that signing up with Getty means licensing your images for 2 years (based on my reading of the contract) with no way to remove your image if you change your mind. So consider carefully before you submit. - Jauder Ho

I was curious as to what images that Getty wants to Rights Manage so I asked on the Getty Images Contributors group and thought I would share the results http://www.flickr.com/groups... - Jauder Ho

Interesting Jauder, it seems like they've made that group private and are not allowing outsiders in to see it. That's sort of lame in my opinion. Only those approved as Getty contributors can read threads in that group. This new service is feeling more and more exclusionary all the time. I think that's bad for community. - Thomas Hawk

Hmm, I did not know that the group was private. I guess they have the right to do so but it does seem somewhat against the spirit of sharing and contributing. - Jauder Ho

I think it goes against the spirit of sharing, transparency and openness for them to make the group private as well. But then again so does requiring you to change your license on photos for sale from Creative Commons to All Rights Reserved. Personally I worry they are going about this the wrong way. By being very exclusionary they alienate the spirit of community that is a large part of Flickr. People who don't get selected feel bad. - Thomas Hawk

I think that they would do better to allow anyone to join the program and then find at least a few images from anyone's stream. If the images suck they won't sell. But creating sort of a "private club" whose photographers are "worthy" vs. the rest of us who suck sends a bad message to users from Flickr/Getty. Putting a "Members Only" sign on the group about the program only further alienates people. - Thomas Hawk

I was asked from another site, NowPublic to have my photos CC my photos and sorry can't do that. Also with Getty, even though its a big stock company, I don't think I will dip into the profit scheme either. I am in photography for integrity, quality, some fun and $. - polou/indigo_bow

Eric- Presumably Flickr thought about launching their own Flickr stock program. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Ryan Gillespie

Bret Taylor

FriendFeed Blog: Find and subscribe to your Twitter friends on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...

January 20 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"We've just added a friend importer for Twitter so you can easily find and subscribe to your Twitter friends who are already on FriendFeed." - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet

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Try it out here: https://friendfeed.com/setting... - Bret Taylor

oh finally. also it's more usable than twitter's thanks. - Eren Emre Kanal

was thinking about this earlier - want Flickr too - deperately! - Phill Price

Hurrah! - Andrew Trinh

Aweseomeness and YES, definitely build the same thing for Flickr. - Thomas Hawk

Finally, great news! - Justin Stevens

O neat. - Bec Rowe @d0tski

Cool! - Vicky

Very cool, I just found like 11 people I wasn't subscribed to here! Thx Guys. :D - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

704 of your Twitter friends use FriendFeed. You are already subscribed to all of them. - Thomas Hawk

Thanks a bunch. Exactly what I needed - Christopher Howie

Nice! Just used it, thanks to the FF team. There were a couple odd mis-matches that I caught, though: Thomas Rauscher (https://friendfeed.com/wuz) != @hotdogsladies - Micah Wittman

I'm confusednow! I think I need it the otherway around :) - Vicky

Sooo. Does this collect non ff twitter users? - Phill Price

Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. I also almost posted about such a feature this morning. I guess in theory I could create imaginary friends for all the twitter users I follow that are NOT on FriendFeed... is there a way to automate that? And then perhaps convert them to non-imaginary friends once they join? :) - Dylan Parker

Some are not who they say they are.. Got a few in my list 'Mark Hobbs @patricknorton, Ron Perrella @leolaporte (private feed)' Other than those, great stuff, thought id done something like this to start with when i first signed up, guess not. - Simon Wicks

Good stuff - thanks ... - Patrick Jordan

Simon: we do our best to make sure someone is who they say they are before recommending them but a few could slip through the cracks. Your feedback definitely helps find the outliers. - Benjamin Golub

oh we can also search other twitter users' friends, nice. - Eren Emre Kanal

@Simon - noticed that too.. Some people are using FF for their personal RSS aggregator and pulling in content from other people. Most likely why they have their feed marked private. - Haggis (Sean Loyless)

Been waiting for this! Thanks FriendFeed!!!!!! - Patrick Lightbody

Benjamin: Good stuff :) - Simon Wicks

The only slight issue, which is not a big deal, is when people add other people's Twitter feeds to their FriendFeed account. In the search I got results for people who have added other people's Twitter feed to their FF account instead of the actual owners of the Twitter accounts I am following. I do this with imaginary friends. They must not know what imaginary friends are for. - Rolf Schewe

This is cool! But noticing some bugs too. I.e. twitter/techcrunch goes to john rocker etc. - Jauder Ho

Jauder: In that case it is likely because http://friendfeed.com/techcru... doesn't have @techcrunch added as a service. Once it is added we should recommend the correct FriendFeed account. - Benjamin Golub

Sweet. That was easy. Nice job. - Andrew Smith

awesome - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

No worries, I scanned the list manually and it added fine. I would suggest giving the ability to add to more than one list though. I created a new list called Twitter but would the people I just added be added to the home feed too? - Jauder Ho

Hmm. It found 3 twitter friends for me, and none of the corresponding FF users are correct. Weird. [looks again] Oh, I get it...none of them are actually on FF, it's just that other people have imported their twitter accounts. Ugh. - Ken Sheppardson

any chance we can get imaginary friends created automatically for twitter friends that are not using friendfeed? - berkay

so so good... - Zee.

BTW, there's a third party app for this. https://twitter2ff.appspot.com It can sync both ways. - Ken Sheppardson

nice thanks ken - was wanting something that went FF to Twitter as well - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Oops. Smooth. Overwhelming. Added 62 & sent 8 requests. Simply good. Waiting for the big news wave now :) - Markus Merz

this would really rock if you could do it for Flickr as well. It would also be interesting if FF was smart enough to delete imaginary friends with the real ones as they show up at FF. - Thomas Hawk

Find your twitter friends on friendfeed - Sean

Given I can put in any user ID, I can pull in any followers on Twitter, period. Shouldn't this tie in to the account you have registered? - Louis Gray

It prepopulates with the account you have registered, but we let you type in any account because the info is available on Twitter, and you may have a Twitter account that you have chosen not to connect to FriendFeed. - Bret Taylor

Thanks, Bret. - Louis Gray

OK, don't everybody try to import @scobleizer's friends at once. - Ken Sheppardson

Bret, make sure you add the link to this importer to http://friendfeed.com/about... - Atul Arora

Nice. Thanks, Bret. - Steven Perez

Sorry, I have a question Houston http://friendfeed.com/e... - Erhan Erdogan

Erhan: we have some logic in place to figure out who "owns" a Twitter account so we always attempt to recommend the correct user. - Benjamin Golub

Benjamin: Really wonder about this logic? Can you explain it? - Erhan Erdogan

nice brett, next find and subscribe to facebook friends already on FF - Bob Sonin

Bob, the Facebook app already finds which of your fb friends are on FriendFeed: http://apps.facebook.com/friendf... - Paul Buchheit

Nice! Import Twitter friends to FF. That is great. - Drew Lucas from BuddyFeed

It was about time... Thanks! - Alexandros Georgiadis

oops, forgot about that - Bob Sonin

wasnt there some tool for that... or maybe that was the other way around - intreresting for sure. However, actually think I know my friendfeed people better than them on Twitter, so I´ll see - Peter Efland

Anyway you can add Facebook support? Also other blog networks (like LiveJournal, Blogger, WordPress and TypePad). - darnell from BuddyFeed

Darnell: The Facebook app finds your Facebook friends are on FriendFeed: http://apps.facebook.com/friendf.... We plan to support other services. - Benjamin Golub

This is awesome. Thank you so very much. - Sloan Bowman

this was realy helpful. thanks! - graham mudd

This didn't work for me. Oh well. - Robert Scoble

One great feature. 184 new subscription. I hope some of them will follow me back here. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

That's what you get for having thousands of followers. - Richard A.

That worked *really* well. Hmm, maybe I'll just unsub those folks on Twitter as long as they are bringing their feed in here. Sorry, Twitter. - Laura Norvig

Laura - you will gettheir Twitter statuses, but you won't get the replies to them from people whom you don't follow, if you follow what I mean. Gahh. - Candy Schwartz

Oh, I don't typically dig that deep. Wouldn't that require TweetDeck or using Twitter search? You're right, though, if I happen to be on Twitter and someone asks an interesting question, sometimes it's nice to see the replies of the people I *do* follow. - Laura Norvig

Thanks for the great feedback everyone! We just pushed some fixes that should make our recommendations even more accurate based on your feedback. - Benjamin Golub

Jesse Stay

Looking for a RockStar Facebook or OpenSocial Developer? - http://staynalive.com/article...

January 20 from Stay N' Alive - Comment - Like - Share

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Since when is Scoble a rockstar??? - Roberto Bonini

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Roberto, define rockstar - I thought this was a great picture, and not many people have more followers than Scoble. He's built his brand from the ground up. - Jesse Stay

I was kidding :) But yeah, i take your point. I agree: Great pic. - Roberto Bonini

What are you drinking there Robert? It looks like an Alka Seltzer with a slice? - Ed Richardson

Photo is courtesy Brian Solis, btw - Jesse Stay

I usually like margaritas or whisky. But I forget what I was drinking here. - Robert Scoble

Jesse, the 'twitter' link on your page links to your old twitter name, just thought I'd let you know. - Will Higgins™

you all truly are fanbois. hahaha - Terry O'Fee

Will, thanks - I'll fix that. - Jesse Stay

How did this picture of Phillip Seymour Hoffman get on to my friendfeeds? - Alex Scoble

Thanks for confirming the obvious Alex :). - Roberto Bonini

Alex LOL - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Liking for the picture :) - Her Lindsay-ness

Alex, that's who I think of every time a photo of your brother is posted. - ♥patricia♥

I think that Phillip Seymour Hoffman would have a very hard time getting my brother's laugh right. - Alex Scoble

Note to self: More Scoble pictures on my blog posts for maximum FF traction ;) - Daniel J. Pritchett

If I had to guess I'd say Scoble was drinking a margarita on the rocks in Vegas. Not that I'd know anything about that ;-) - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Could be a vodka 'n Squirt. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Sure you can have this dance...you cad! Twist my arm. - sofarsoShawn

I love this pic, he's great in "Mission Impossible 3" :D - ezekiel

I've always thought 'Charlie Wilson's War' was some of Scoble's best work. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Me too, Mark. Me too... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I freaking love this picture. - Shawn Farner

Hey is beyond being a Rockstar. He's a Webstar. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

Tom Raftery

Thanks NASA for the beautiful Earthrise pic I used in the splashscreen of Chris Tuppen's talk at the it@cork Green IT Conf http://blip.tv/file/1689095

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Robert Scoble

Today is first day that http://www.techfuga.com/ has better tech news than http://www.techmeme.com What do you think? Discuss:

January 19 - Comment - Like - Share

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I'm not seeing much to love at the moment. mysql connect error :) - Greg Gannicott

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hey it doesn't work for me. i'm still using Techmeme... but it's good for competition. - Shamir Ramjan

Looks like Scoble broke it! Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet'....... - Ben Hedrington

Congrats on breaking the site! - Stephen Lecheler

Techfuga is busted. I blame Scoble.. "Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 in /var/www/vhosts/techfuga.com/httpdocs/config/config.inc.php on line 58 error1" - Berk D. Demir

love it. Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 in /var/www/vhosts/techfuga.com/httpdocs/config/config.inc.php on line 58 error1 - Lou Paglia

Yo' Scoble, you took it down! - Michael Krigsman

You know, if they're truly American, they should go and sue Scoble. That's called DDoS. No matter how its managed. The result is denial of service. - Berk D. Demir

It's up here. EDIT: oh, wait, it's not. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

yeah, looks real good, i was just looking for info on "Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Lost connection to MySQL server at 'reading initial communication packet', system error: 111 in /var/www/vhosts/techfuga.com/httpdocs/config/config.inc.php on line 58 error1" - MG Siegler

It shows exactly what is happening in the Modern Top News Site Community... they are all one big ERROR!!!! - Tyler (Chacha)

I imagine the site going down was a coincidence, but if not, that suggests a lot of people are hanging on Scoble's tweets today. It is a holiday for some in the states, so may be. :-) - Loren Heiny

No - Bwana ☠

The funny thing about this site is, if you want to compete with techmeme; go and get your self a serious hosting service. That's probably a shared server, obviously managed by Plesk. That's lame. Even more lame than Twitter's struggles of scaling... Hey actually they were trying to scale out with real traffic. - Berk D. Demir

Berk: yeah. Being down guarantees I won't talk about TechFuga again for a long while. Gabe Rivera FTW! - Robert Scoble

don't worry, I will - Bwana ☠

I connected fine ... - Robert Couture

meh - andy brudtkuhl

It's back up now. - Michael Krigsman

There's got to be a destruction testing business idea here! - Steve Nimmons

Apologies to all: yesterday we migrated database and web server and it seems we are having trouble sorting out some database connection issues. It should be fine soon and I take opportunity to let you all know that TECHFUGA 2.0 is coming in a few days...Joao/TechFuga - TechFuga

Robert Scoble

If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:

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1. Stop begging for followers. It turns off all the interesting people. - Robert Scoble

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2. RT smart people's stuff but add onto it with a good comment. - Robert Scoble

3. If you have something smart to say, say it to someone directly like "Hey @techcrunch you should check out the new Palm Pre." - Robert Scoble

I now await the inevitable flood of "RTs" of this message ;-) - Warren

4. Send wine or other bribes to people who make lots of noise. - Robert Scoble

Sounds like someone's running low on wine :) - Eric Florenzano

5. If you are friends with a real celebrity bring them around at blogger/twitter parties. Make sure you get them to follow you and remember your name. All good twitterers have iPhones or other phones that they can tweet from. - Robert Scoble

6. Put your twitter and friendfeed addresses on your business cards. - Robert Scoble

7. Talk shit about Eric Florenzano. :-) - Robert Scoble

Ok, well that's *someone's* blog done for tomorrow, then! :) - WorldofHiglet

8. Follow people back if they add value. 1938media has added 1,000 new followers since he started following everyone back. - Robert Scoble

What kind of wine goes with bribe? Did you ask GaryVee while in Vegas? - Dave Cadoff

9. Talk shit about that Scoble dude. Yeah, me. Sometimes it gets a link and a follow. Especially if you teach me something while you are calling me an idiot. - Robert Scoble

LOL *hands Robert a bottle of wine* Please add the "don't pout or make a twitter fuss when you notice someone drops you. Insecurity isn't a attraction" - Sprite

10. Be interesting. Craig Newmark got hundreds of follows in first evening (I was the first to follow him) after I tweeted about him. Why? Because he was interesting already. - Robert Scoble

Remember it's not about the followers - it's about the relationships. Your purpose of having many followers should be so you can build relationships with as many of them as possible. - Jesse Stay

11. Do something sensational like tatoo your twitter address onto your face. - Robert Scoble

BTW, (real-life) relationships then bring more followers - Jesse Stay

Wine? Bribe? Anything will get noticed. Better yet, put a custom label on it and include your Twitter address on it. - Robert Scoble

Liked for the 'talk shit about Scoble'. Also, Scoble, do you accept Mead? - Will Higgins™

12. Hang out with Jesse Stay. Better yet, bring him to Twitter's headquarters for an interview (that's what I did and it worked). - Robert Scoble

I've tried to do everything on this list, but the tattoo isn't going to work. I've already branded my twitter address onto several steers. - Mike Nayyar

13. Stalk Guy Kawasaki until he calls the cops on you or follows you. - Robert Scoble

14. Get naked. Take pictures. Include your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble

er - we've seen most of your body, Robert, so where's *your* tatoo? - WorldofHiglet

15. Tweet from a burning plane. - Robert Scoble

16. Tweet from jail. - Robert Scoble

17. Tweet your marriage proposal. - Robert Scoble

Robert, so you're saying I got you more followers? - Jesse Stay

18. Tweet you are dying. - Robert Scoble

19. Be a member of congress, or better yet, Barack Obama. - Robert Scoble

This would loose me followers. Trust me on this. It would also get me a few lawsuits I think. :D - MarkCarras

this is going to go on for like...days...isn't it :P - Erin @queenofspain

#18 is reasonable, as long as you don't actually die. Lowers your productivity. - Ken Brady

Jesse: hanging out with you made me far cooler than I was previously. - Robert Scoble

If I'm gonna get naked, I've got to have some sort of revenue coming in. At least enough to buy a netbook with. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Write a FriendFeed post about how to get others to follow you - Jesse Stay

20. Get your picture on the Twitter blog. (Actually that didn't work that well because they didn't include my Twitter address). Heheh. - Robert Scoble

be yourself and those that fit with you will follow? or at least seem a certain way for that audience? - David

21. Tweet while having sex. Or getting drunk. Or, better yet, doing both. - Robert Scoble

Robert, no, I must say I became much cooler hanging out with you - Jesse Stay

Will: Mead? Absolutely! - Robert Scoble

Jesse: that's what you think. Ask your real friends and they will probably tell you otherwise. :-) - Robert Scoble

22. get on Leo Laporte's show and have him order his listeners to follow you. He did this last Sunday to my son and you should have seen the followers roll in. That dude has POWER!!! - Robert Scoble

Robert, I asked them and they said you're the man - Jesse Stay

23. Get @garyvee to take you wine tasting. Tweet it. - Robert Scoble

24. Write a book about Twitter. - Robert Scoble

naked pictures drunk sex and dying. got it. Oh, also, be Barack Obama. ANything else? - Erin @queenofspain

25. Get Chris Brogan to say you are smart. - Robert Scoble

Be hot and make sure your avatar shows it - Chris Saad

WTF how pathetic do u have to be tohave this desire to be followed.Ppl follow u cuz they find u interesting & if not they will dump u period.Being a Personal Ball washer is just lame to get to have followers.be sure to hold ur ground. - Baba

26. Get into an argument with @techcrunch. - Robert Scoble

I've mentioned my Twitter account on The Tech Guy but I think my last name throws people. :D - MarkCarras

27. Question @loic's Frenchness. - Robert Scoble

Go to breakfast with @techcrunch and he tweets about it randomly - Chris Saad

"Have Scoble say you are interesting." Just worked for a few people I am going to "try follow". - Dean Clark

Erin, welcome to Twitter ;-) - Jesse Stay

28. Be like Baba and call everyone who worries about being followed an idiot. Or 28B. Agree with Baba. Personally, he's right! - Robert Scoble

Tell any blogger they're wrong - Jesse Stay

29. Claim you are above this stupid game. - Robert Scoble

Quit Twitter, come back after 2 months - Jesse Stay

All bloggers are wrong at least every few posts. Especially me! :D - MarkCarras

30. Follow more interesting people. That's why I've said for a year now it's most important who you follow, not who is following you. What I really was trying to say there is if you want better followers you've got to follow better people. - Robert Scoble

lol Jesse. Twitter? What's that? I thought I was learning how to sell a shamwow - Erin @queenofspain

What kind of wine are we talking here? - Chris Poirier

Mark, you bet, but we are all type-A personalities. We hate to be told we're wrong and will defend it to our dying day. :) - Jesse Stay

31: Give away something. Hold a contest. - Robert Scoble

Launch a great Twitter service and stick your twitter name in the footer - Chris Saad

32. Invite Louis Gray over for dinner. Make sure he brings his twins. Take pictures. 1000 extra points if you bring shirts for the twins with your Twitter address on them. - Robert Scoble

be in a warzone and don't die - Simon T Small

33. Do something outrageous for followers. - Robert Scoble

Start a thread going on and on about it on FriendFeed :) - Chris Saad

imagine what'd happen if you had sex with Obama on a burning plane heading for a warzone, whilst drunk, and piloting the plane? - Simon T Small

@Simon ROFL too funny - Chris Saad

34. Chris Saad is right. Speaking of Chris, if you party with him in Amsterdam you'll get more followers. Oh, and if you are the guy who wrote http://www.twittervision.com you'll get more followers. - Robert Scoble

Take a pic down a girls shirt and post it on FF. - David

Not 'Chris Saad' robert - @ChrisSaad :D - Chris Saad

Get in with the Mommy Bloggers and #GNO Tweeps - Jesse Stay

35. Get your Twitter address on CNN. UPDATE: Hey, Chris Saad here you have to put http://www.friendfeed.com/chrissa... heheh. - Robert Scoble

Good call Jesse, I was going to say piss off the mommybloggers , but getting in with them works too...lol - Erin @queenofspain

I've had 2 new FriendFeed followers just from this thread. - Jesse Stay

Follow Garry Vee (don't ask me to spell his full name out at this time of night, please?) what kind of wine goes with Twittering. *lol* Well, Gary Vee is THE wine expert on Twitter. :P - Mol, Time Warping

be Robert Scoble - Simon T Small

36. Jesse Stay found a new one: comment on lots of friendfeed threads! - Robert Scoble

@simontsmall post your Twitter feed here http://twitter.com/simonts... - Simon T Small

Erin, it is my goal to be King of the Mommy bloggers - Jesse Stay

Follow just 1 online multi-level marketer and you'll has a ton start following you - Paul Povolni

I buy dinner for anyone who comes to my area and contacts me through Twitter...and is following me. :D - MarkCarras

I find that not following people back increases the rate at which I gain followers - Simon T Small

Simon: being Robert Scoble is pretty hard. You've gotta keep coming up with new ways to find followers. It's easier to call him an asshole on twitter. Even better, call him, TechCrunch, 1938media, JasonCalacanis, Guy Kawasaki, and a few other people assholes. - Robert Scoble

37. Jeremiah Owyang found this one: stop Twittering. - Robert Scoble

I'm amazed I don't get called an asshole more often. I think this should be my New Years Resolution. :D - MarkCarras

38. Follow someone, then when they don't follow you back, call them out on it and say they are lame. - Robert Scoble

Robert: haha! I'll try it now :) - Simon T Small

39. Come up with a new Twitter game. Get it retweeted by Chris Brogan. - Robert Scoble

Make a real funny stream on Friendfeed, but better yet put it on your blog so SEO really gathers people to it and put your Friendfeed/Twitter handles right in the post - Ian D. Nock

40. Pay Magpie to spam everyone with your Twitter address. - Robert Scoble

41. Go to Gnomedex. - Robert Scoble

Oh don't tell people to talk shit about you. It's kinda sad to see people talking crap about you, then when you're some place they are, they turn all fanboy. - Anika

Robert: wait, not change in plans, I don't hate those people, damn it! - Simon T Small

No one gets to be King of the mommybloggers until I deem it so dammit - Erin @queenofspain

42. Hang out with @newmediajim at the Inauguration. - Robert Scoble

I figured it out before Jeremiah: http://staynalive.com/article... - Jesse Stay

43. Hang out with Hillary Clinton in Davos (my dream). - Robert Scoble

Erin, but I thought you were the Queen of Spain - Jesse Stay

44. Come up with a new set of rules for Twitter behavior. - Robert Scoble

Oh boy, Mr. Scoble. I hope you are not Tweeting while getting drunk and having sex... Poor Mommy and son... Some things need to stay sacred. Do you really want the world at large to know what you are doing at all times? Quit goofing and send us more tech info we enjoy. Great videos from CES by the way. I even got my partner to come and watch some of them. Thanks for the good stuff! - Colleen

45. Get more followers on Facebook then get them all to join you on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

46. Be @god. Even better. Be @god and hand out beta invites to something cool coming soon. - Robert Scoble

Colleen: I didn't say I use all these ideas. But I've seen them work on other people. :-) - Robert Scoble

Don't forget the with @mchammer part - Jesse Stay

Give a talk at a geek event and make sure you give out your Twitter name for feedback - Chris Saad

47. Twitter the birth of your new baby (high risk, if you aren't there mentally during contractions you might see your iPhone thrown across the room). - Robert Scoble

Pay @MrTweet to recommend you to everyone - Chris Saad

48. Tweet exclusive Apple news before anyone else does. - Robert Scoble

49. Be the first to retweet a big earthquake tweet. - Robert Scoble

Got any more? - Robert Scoble

Throw popularity out the window and somehow measure influence (stay tuned) :) - Chris Saad

Make a list of ways to get more followers. - Scott Kingery

change your name to your @twitter handle - Simon T Small

Chris: hah, even better, have so many followers already that you break MrTweet. :-) - Robert Scoble

50. Post cleavage pictures of yourself with your Twitter name plastered on the picture CLASSY! - Mona Nomura

Ustream the birth of your new baby (even higher risk, but at least you have proof): http://www.ustream.tv/blog... - Jesse Stay

51. Follow everyone then unfollow as soon as you get a follow - follow that? - Mona Nomura

Chris: Influence is gold, like it, am tuned - Simon T Small

This post alone lets me see the value of FriendFeed over Twitter for conversations. Glad the list above isn't documentation of your personal twitter conquest, but a record of some of the looneyness of Twitter follower greediness - Paul Povolni

52. Move to SF and go to every. single. Tweet-up! YAY HOW FUN! - Mona Nomura

Be Warren Buffett or similar. - Moushumi Kabir

Scott: I don't know that this list helped me that much. But, how about a list of things that will get rid of followers? I bet that one would work better. - Robert Scoble

53. Set text alerts for Brightkite and follow all the huge Tweeter's comings and goings - show up and SUBTLY introduce yourself so you'll be name dropped. Keyword = SUBTLY - Mona Nomura

54. Go to every single conference and shamelessly pass out your Twitter in lieu of email! - Mona Nomura

Streak at the Supebowl with your twitter name on your front and back(side) - Simon T Small

Be a default on FriendFeed - Jesse Stay

Nice to see this list here instead of scattered across oblivion---I mean Twitter... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

use http://search.twitter.com to find people that like what you like, @reply them and RT their stuff. :) - Simon T Small

Jesse: that only used to work. There are no defaults on friendfeed anymore. In fact, if you don't have any friends it won't recommend anyone to you. - Robert Scoble

Name drop as much as you can and do whatever it takes to get written up on ValleyWag (wow, I've learned a lot in six months!) - Mona Nomura

Get Robert Scoble to tweet that he can't believe what's going on at your birthday party even though it was a tame house party with friends - Chris Saad

Tell people to NOT follow you. I mean it. Don't. - Andrew Smith

Get your name on Alltop - Jesse Stay

another posting sponsored by Palm *yawn* - Dieter Schwarz from Nambu

Post a bajillion pictures of your kids, pets, and more kids. - Mona Nomura

Make sure you participate in every. single. Robert post and name drop him as much as possible. ;) - Mona Nomura

Mona, great one - Kids, Dogs, and Kittenz - Bacon, too - Jesse Stay

@Dieter if a post was sponsored by anyone scoble would let u know - trust me - Chris Saad

Go to every. single. event and take + post as many. pictures. as you can w/ the "famous" people and PING.FM THOSE PICTURES! - Mona Nomura

Here's a novel idea - Have something interesting to say and focus on producing value instead of your follower count :) - Chris Saad

Mona, Facebook and Flickr tag them as well - Jesse Stay

Always respond to people with an "@" ie: @scobelizer WOW this thread RULES - since you never know what Google's indexing! - Mona Nomura

Dieter: Huh? If anything this post would be sponsored by Seagate. You can follow them at http://friendfeed.com/seagate (Seagate sponsors my video show, not my friendfeed account). - Robert Scoble

Mona: 'post famous pictures' Love it. Works a charm on facebook. - Simon T Small

i have a new one: use Browser bugs to greet your blogvisitors with their twittername http://is.gd/eMdF @andreasklinger - Andreas Klinger

Chris: having something interesting to say? No, that couldn't work, could it? I'd rather talk about my followers. :-) - Robert Scoble

Retweet this thread (no, that's not a request, it's an idea) - Jesse Stay

Robert: U do both so its all good :) - Chris Saad

Chris Saad: yer talkin crazy with that last one. Focus on content? Insanity. - Scott Kingery

55: Dieter reminded me of one more: talk about products that already have Twitter accounts. When I talked about HR Block they followed me. So did Ford. So did Zappos. - Robert Scoble

56. Don't auto-DM followers just follow them back or RT their next tweet - Damian Holmes

Get a tshirt made with your twitter name on it... - Luke Harvey-Palmer

Find a unique thing that you can help another Twitter user on - the bigger the user, the better. Fix their problem. - Jesse Stay

So did @HeavyAsHell Oh wait, that's my site. :D - MarkCarras

57. post a comment to a robert scoble FF feed - Damian Holmes

Luke: T-shirts are so common. How about shoes? Jeans? Underwear? Don Box used to have his company logo on underwear. Called them "Boxer shorts." I still remember those, even though I've forgotten all the lame Tshirts I've ever gotten. - Robert Scoble

Only a slut is going to be able to advertise well with branded underwear - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Compete for the most followers on Twitter - didn't Leo and Calacanis do that at one time? (or am I getting the contenders wrong?) - Jesse Stay

58. write your twitter name on your eyelids then go to a tweetup or large tech conference - Damian Holmes

MiniMage: not true. Don Box is no slut. He now runs a team at Microsoft. - Robert Scoble

Spam FF with your useful knowledge - WorldofHiglet

Be an early adopter - be one of the first, get in early, and build a follow base early - Jesse Stay

Another one? Take pictures of Twitter users and follow them. They almost always follow back. - Robert Scoble

I aint never heard of Don Box, and that means I didn't see that underwear! ;). No, seriously, I concede, but I had to make a retort. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

This thread is my bucket list. - Eric Florenzano

I think a good way to make more friends is to live an interesting life. Life is a journey. You meet people just around every corner. Twitter happens to be one of them. - Helge V. Keitel

Build up and help out a non-A list, but up-and-coming A or B list Twitter user or blogger. They will be more appreciative (it's those people that like the shirts and swag). - Jesse Stay

Tweet something like this: "I'm looking for funny people to follow, do you know any?" - Robert Scoble

Never sleep - Jesse Stay

#ces09 hash #mwsf09 tags #cwc09 use #sxsw09 them #snl as #jackiepetersspawn much · #gaza as #hiphop possible #burritos every #dubstep other #microblogging word = KEY (relevance matters not) - Mona Nomura

Get @gapingvoid to use your twitter address in one of his cartoons (he designed my business cards and you would be amazed how well that works). - Robert Scoble

@Mona use a hot suggestive silhouette as your avatar - that alwasy helps too - Chris Saad

Mona you are *so* followed - Jesse Stay

Take Louis Gray to a Vodka bar. You might not get any followers, but you will have a good time and he doesn't drink so you'll have a safe drive home, too! - Robert Scoble

follow A, B, C, D, E, F, X and Z listers - Damian Holmes

Create a custom T-shirt with "I Love Your Stream" (mine) on front(or your own words) and your Twitter name on back. I did it with @crypticfragment at zazzle.com. Still waiting for it. I didn't put twitter name on back though, should have, but not trying to gain HUGE followers, just the ones that would like to hear about furniture,interior design and eco home stuff! I put: twitter:FTW, on the back. - Leslie Carothers

Robert, not to mention get on the front of Valleywag - Jesse Stay

I keep hiding this but it doesn't stay hidden. :( - Mona Nomura

Follow the Top 500 in your City then Top 500 in your Country that's at least 500 follow backs - Damian Holmes

Jesse: I find that I get a lot of followers by keeping the A list on the A list. Who wants to deal with those assholes if they fall onto the B list? - Robert Scoble

I'm with @garyvee & how he encourages us to *execute the best YOU* - don't try to be anyone else but the *best* you... your passionate self. Peeps who resonate with you will follow. And for sure add value, retweet good resources, build peeps up, thank those who comment on your blog & RT you. - Mari Smith

58. Post to a list to get people to follow you. such as the one explaining how to get people to follow you... - Sheraz Mahmood

ROFL Robert! - Jesse Stay

share links to awesome blog posts - Simon T Small

Sheraz Mahmood I just tried that, thought i'd do something, but 10 minutes later and nothing *cries* - Simon T Small

59. Be the center of the universe...the rest will follow - Sheraz Mahmood

Unnecessarily talk about iPhones. - Mona Nomura

Start browser wars. - Mona Nomura

Re-Tweet all of Tech Crunch's posts. - Mona Nomura

Start Steve Jobs rumors - Mona Nomura

Name drop Hollywood celebrities even if you don't know them. - Mona Nomura

By the way, I'm following everyone who has participated on this so far. Why? Because only geeks would be online on a Saturday night and I want to follow all the geeks. So, everyone here has at least one follower on friendfeed. - Robert Scoble

write a dramatic post about a family from Romania with a child with down syndrome and ask people to donate money. - Simon T Small

Robert: You'll need to unfollow me, its 6pm Sunday here in Aussieland, so I'm not a commited geek sorry - Simon T Small

Robert: Gotta do something while Windows 7 downloads :) - Scott Kingery

Haha!! So busted - very good point re your last comment, Robert. Thank goodness for fab understanding spouses is all I say. hehe - Mari Smith

60. Get on FriendFeed and Twitter super early and become de facto popular. And yes, #32 is a must. - Louis Gray

Robert: were not all in Silicon Valley - its 16:30 in China - (awaiting the flames or unfollows - which is worst?) - Damian Holmes

... and always listen to Scoble! Ha-ha. Robert, we admire you! - Alan Kodzasov

Another tip: Don't live in Australia nearly NOBODY here is on Twitter - Simon T Small

Compliment the crap out of "A-listers" and always laugh at all of their jokes. Make sure to add at least seven exclamation points. ie:"LOL!!!!!!!!!!" to stand out from the crowd. - Mona Nomura

Note: above only works if you participate in every. single. one of their posts on both Twitter and FriendFeed! - Mona Nomura

Mona: absolutely! :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: 5:30 pm in Tokyo. I'm pretty much just getting going for the day. :-) - Ken Brady

Say something that makes a 200 + comment thread ;) - videopixil

When you send bribes, make sure to research. ie: LG doesn't drink but Robert likes wine. Subtly ask for preferences so they'll get something they actually _like_ <--KEY. - Mona Nomura

Use Tweetdeck and apply filters to see subjects you are expert in. You'll notice lots of people look for advice in certain fields so you can reply and show your expertise. I notice those people you help are happy and more likely to follow you even if you don't follow them. - Luca Filigheddu from fftogo

Have a sense of humor! - Mona Nomura

Not to forget: You need to stress that Mac and iPhone are cool and superior. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

@videopixil Of course, that applies to most things Scoble says. - Ken Brady

@tkpleslie says," Ask people like @scobleizer sincere question about whether Nokia's new phone works for people, like me, that wear hearing aids when's he's in Japan in middle of your night at the actual Nokia conference where phone is being intro'd for first time. He did respond,nicely,but did not follow so I guess it doesn't work too well. - Leslie Carothers

Send Mona lego art wrapped in bacon. Oh wait, that'll get you friendfeed follows. - Yuvi

better yet. take Robert AND Louis to a Vodka bar - Erin @queenofspain

OMG iPhones are SO 2008. Becoming a Palm, Pre, and Nova fanbois = FUTURE - Mona Nomura

@Mona Humor is key. What better length at which to be witty? Any longer than this and most of us become dull. - Ken Brady

Robert, I kinda bagged you, with a positive spin, it got me on openzap 'today's best' http://openzap.com/ - Simon T Small

Crap, #palm #pre #nova #followme #ILOVEROBERTSCOBLE!!!!!!!!!! - Mona Nomura

This was before I really understood as @marismith says, that true value in twitter for me is having followers and following those people with intersecting paths because, like in real life, that's how interesting real conversations have a chance to develop into fuller, deeper, more lasting relationships. - Leslie Carothers

Robert, It's Sunday Morning in Loviisa, Finland ;) - Helge V. Keitel

Leslie: I did follow you here on friendfeed. I still haven't been able to find out if it works well for hearing impaired. I'm sure it does, though. The speaker phone on that device is pretty darn good. - Robert Scoble

Speak in SAT verbiage at all times to make yourselves sound smarter. - Mona Nomura

Never admit: ay kin knot reed end rite... :( - Mona Nomura

This is a great list Robert, I love making new friends. All those awful things people are saying about you must be wrong - aren't they? -] - Chris Loft

Post YouTube clips of classical music to make yourself seem more cultured. - Mona Nomura

Share everythign popular on digg because if it's on digg, it MUST be cool. - Mona Nomura

stop following people who post about following and follow people who don't try... - Ryan

mention yourself on Scobles friendfeed (@mattrendo) - Matt Rendo

Keep up with memes since everyone wants to hear what's been repeated on the web a trillion times without contributing a new opinion. ie: CES looks cool. - Mona Nomura

All great points. I've always hated requests for follows. I'm only attempting something like it for charity. In that instance, those who do the same should be very clear about WHY they want followers in the first place. Otherwise it looks like you're just in it for yourself. - Brandon Mendelson

@mattrendo, already been said up there! But you FAIL since you forgot the hashtag: #scoblizerrulesOMGWTFBACON. - Mona Nomura

Chris Loft: everything said about me is absolutely true! :-) - Robert Scoble

So it's true that you have huge... giant... socks? - Chris Saad

Thanks for the follow here on FriendFeed, Robert. I know this is where you interact. But,because home base for me is Twitter, I never saw your follow here until I went to comment on this thread! It's too much for me to constantly go back and forth and also keep up with work, life,friends and family.How do you guys do it? Thanks, tho, Robert,for letting me know. I learn from you ALL the time. - Leslie Carothers

I really am not obsessed with more followers. Sure I appreciated them as much as the next person. It is not a popularity contest for my use case. Hence, I will never be a "Top 100" person on Twitter. ;) - Rodney Rumford

If it's on the Internet, it is ALWAYS true, Robert. ;) - Mona Nomura

Try to explain yourself out of being a geek when you really are - Jesse Stay

I am indeed a failure, all the more reason to follow me... and that BACON Mona N. mentioned - Matt Rendo

Get Robert Scoble to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay

@Jesse I'm incapable of explaining myself out of being a geek. Better to embrace it. - Ken Brady

61: Add on to a Robert Scoble numbered list with an incrementally interesting item. - Steve Garfield

Bacon IS the future, Matt! - Mona Nomura

#monanisaddicatedtohashtags :P #simonlikeshashtagstoo - Simon T Small

Is this the biggest thread ever on FriendFeed? - Eric Florenzano

Get Rodney Rumford to Foreward/Afterword your book for you - Jesse Stay

This is an EPIC thread. Thank you Robert and THANK YOU INTERNET! - Mona Nomura

62: Follow Steve Garfield in a Scoble numbered list - Jesse Stay

bacon - http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008... - Matt Rendo

#WWRD - videopixil

I wonder how long it will take Friendfeed to add comment ratings like Digg? - Simon T Small

Hey Mr. Scoble! You make it sound like a bad thing to be online on a Saturday night. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto

Refrain from hijacking someone's thread by digressing with bacon - Focus, Matt. FOCUS! - Mona Nomura

Hilarious thread BTW!! - Eddie Soto

Content is king!!!!!!! (Mona see, 7) - Amit Morson

See... Me=failure A sense of humor seems to attract followers too. - Matt Rendo

Memorize this entire thread by EOD Monday and recite it back to Robert - on video! - Mona Nomura

Re-Tweet all 264 lines Googleplex times - or until the FailWhale / FailRobot appears. - Mona Nomura

Talk about how much you love Twitter and Facebook. - dont' forget the hashtags: pound facebook pound twitter. - Mona Nomura

Jesse. OK. Now I am smiling man... lol. By the way thanks for writing the afterword for my twitter book: Twitter as a Business Tool. - Rodney Rumford

Deem yourself a Social Network Expert and write a bajillion blog posts on "How to Use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura

Oops. Sorry Rodney. Bad timing... :) - Mona Nomura

Be consistently random - wait, no, then they will unfollow you :( - Matt Rendo

Always use emoticons as disclaimers! - Mona Nomura

What is this thread about?. I forgot by the time I read to the end of it. - Jim Bednarz

Bash on mattrendo - Matt Rendo

Always use *this* emoticon: :-) - WorldofHiglet

Have foot in mouth moments. Oh, wait... - Mona Nomura

63: Profit!! - Aaron Baer

Be a spam artist - Matt Rendo

Follow everyone posting here - Sheraz Mahmood

back up your success with nothing more than 140 characters - Sheraz Mahmood

I've noticed that people who start a controversy, especially with a high profile person, get an immediate boost in followers. You'd think it would backfire but it seems to have the opposite effect. Maybe it's the trainwreck factor? People curious what on earth will be said next? - Liz

Apparently posting on Scoble's Friendfeed works... 6 followers in the last few minutes. - Matt Rendo

Woah. 278+ comments. Impressive! This is definitely one that will stick on FFholic for a while. - Phil G

You forgot to add being Karl Rove to the list: http://twitter.com/KarlRov... - Roberto Bonini

Wondering is anybody will read all these comments. I do believe if twitter doesn't get it together, that a large group will flock out to another destination. ala: Poof! - Dave

Hey @scobleizer, your post would have been more appropriate on a blog. - Klaus Alexander Seistrup

Post photos of cute puppies on FriendFeed. - Amit Morson

To get followers, jump into a Tweetchat "room", get into the convo, follow folks then tell them in the chat room that you are following. For the "Happy09" chat, there were tons of people in there. Better yet, start your own chat/chat meme! - Jesse P. Luna

@ reply like crazy to let the person know you followed them ie: @Scobleizer HI I FOLLOWED YOU FOLLOW ME BACK repeat until FailWhale/FailRobot shows up. - Mona Nomura

Well, that's starting to work . . . anyone else getting lots of new friends? . . . and I didn't have to insult anybody. I think I might have to post one of my classical video clips for Mona http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Chris Loft

Leslie, the N series work v well with the hearing impaired, but the iPhone works even better from my experience FTW! - Sally Church

One thing that annoys me: people who discuss their follower numbers on twitter. Its just not interesting! I just subscribed to someone and unsubscribed the next day as 4 tweets were about passing 10000 - I'm very glad for you but it is just noise in my feed. Now I understand the feeling - I was amazed the day 100 people followed me (it is all relative :) ) - but it is not necessary to tweet about it. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I was going to send you some Swiss wine Robert, but I was told it doesn't travel well, so drank it myself. Just so you know, it was good :-) - Paul Shadwell

I'm paling up with several here, in spite of what Mr. Scoble says about Saturday night geeks. -Mr. Geek ;-P - Eddie Soto

Participate in a Robert Scoble's friendfeed conversation on Saturday night, have him follow you, post the screenshot of him following you - Bertrand Doux

On the subject of more followers, arrrrrgh! *runs screaming from room.... * - Sally Church

Tweet about Windows 7(or something equally as interesting), which I'll be doing a lot of in the coming days, It's installing as I type this! - Kevin Lloyd

Tweet, but don't tweet too much because people apparently don't want to hear from you (or is it just me! ;)) THAT much! :) - Christopher Kusek

I'm using Windows 7 right now! I've posted tweets and videos of it on YouTube - check it out! http://friendfeed.com/e... - Will Higgins™

Paul, what's that about swiss wine not travelling so well? It travels beautifully (but you need to get the good ones). It is so hard to find outside Switzerland because the swiss tend to drink all of it. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Liz, I thought that was really funny cos it's Sunday evening here. I'm not some z-list geek sitting here wasting my time on a Saturday night. -[ - Chris Loft

point 4 above is shameless self-plug :) but entertaining :))) - A.T.

64. Comment on a Robert Scoble list at 2:21 AM in bed becausse you could not sleep - Tyler (Chacha)

65. Plan to write a blog post on thisentry in the morning - Tyler (Chacha)

66. Fail at placing a space between in this and entry on a scoble list ( iPod recognizes Scoble as a word and auto completed it) - Tyler (Chacha)

You guys are awesome by the way. - Tyler (Chacha)

Tattoo your twitter/friendfeed address on other people. - Kevin Leroux

lmao!!! great one Robert - Kaysha

get stuck on a bus in death valley in the middle of the night with robert scoble. - Christine Lu

Follow an obscure norwegian and get incoherent conversations about whales, blåbærsyltetøy, and the semantic web;) (which may make people curious.. or unfollow you actually..) - Thomas Bøhm

Get up at 6 am on Sundays if living in Europe because otherwise you miss Robert Scoble's craziest moments and most interesting threads = people *damn* I should have never slept in! - Gaby K. Slezák

A real one: Upload a sexy picture on your profile or your twitter bg !! - İbrahim Uzun [ j ]

Claim that Scoble and Techcrunch are simply manufactured entities by a mysterious corporate power using Coke vs. Pepsi tactics to polarize the masses in an effort to conquer the world. - Bob Starr

RT @scobleizer Robert this is good advice, except I don't see any reference to bodacious tat-tas. ;) - John Craft

RT @scobleizer Robert wow, your post generated so many comments, is this the most number of comments from a single tweet in Twitter history? Can anyone confirm? - Alvin

Sorry not Twitter, this is from FriendFeed :) - Alvin

67. write about stuff you are enthusiastic about and that's only covered by a handful of people yet (like virtual worlds, metaverse) and shamelessly reveal that you are enthusiastic about that in one of the most commented on @scobleizer threads ;-) - Gaby K. Slezák

stop reading half way but say it was awesome anyway - Stephen Breen

You forgot about having a whole lot of time on your hands! - John D Reasor

yet still looking busy kthxbai - Thomas Bøhm

Stop caring who follows you! - Elias Bizannes

I can't scroll to the bottom ;-) This list is hilarious! Robert, I'm glad you have been taking notes this whole time! - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

Do NOT use the phrase "social media" in your Twitter bio. - Frank Scavo

"16. Tweet from jail" ahahahahahahaha :) - Lucio

I knew I should have tweeted from the back of that police van on the stroke of new year's eve, watching the fireworks. And walking away. Walking. With a big grin on my face. We'z not dus photoz. Doh. - Chris Loft

Write an "unofficial biography of Robert Scoble" and have it published? ;) - Tyson Key

Post a picture of you with someone famous... http://tinyurl.com/8xbcds - geekazine

“Scoble's law of unfollows: for everyone who you get on Twitter that says they will unfollow you will get 87 new followers.” http://tinyurl.com/9oahwc - Tapio Kulmala

Talk about the versatility of bacon - BACON - crisp, tasty BACON - BEX

Just noticed this is a very dude-heavy thread (not all but mainly) and that I mainly subscribe to guys on FriendFeed. But on Twitter I have about 60/40 men/women Following mix, I think. It was the comments about ta-tas and sexy profile photos that made me realize the difference. - Liz

Lock Robert Scoble, Mona N, Jesse Stay, Louis Gray, Jason Calacanis and Techcrunch in a room. Only release them when they've retweeted every single of your tweets and told all their followers to follow you! - Nicholas James

nope its nun of the above; .they are just hacking into your FF account;If you really want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed this is what you do, its...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.they got me. - tomartomartini

Set up a low-wage tweet farmer in China. - Richard Sprague

Use Jennifer Aniston's cleavage as your avatar. - Jim Mitchem

omg I go to bed and you people KEEP GOING. unreal. - Erin @queenofspain

Yep .. I think this has reached the most active discussion .. ever (It past Dave Winer's post which is most discussed in past 30 days) - Tyler (Chacha)

Come on people! We need to reach 500 comments! - Tyler (Chacha)

Tweet unto you as you would like to be tweeted. - iamkhayyam

Create a Robert Scoble fan blog and title it Mr. Awesome. :) - Bill Romanos

69. start a list and slowly move out of it as other members of the community move in to pick it up (there is no 68) - you are now running things without even being there. - Valeria Maltoni

Be a more interesting what Robert? :p oh and maybe follow the fastest top ten commenters here. - mrsha

I am reading this in friendfeed on my iPhone and immediately regretting my decision to tap "read more..." I made it through the first 12 then began skimming and my thumb began sobbing... - John Reynolds

I don't remember any friendfeed item getting more than 300 comments. I think this is now the new high water mark. Wow! - Robert Scoble

Or: Post a “If you want more followers on Twitter and friendfeed here's what to do:” tweet :-) - Marco Massarotto

Not being in this comment stream is so embarrassing. Wait, so is BEING in this comment stream! - Tom Guarriello

i wonder if you did it all wrong, would you really get no followers... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Joelle: if you did it all wrong you would still get followers but they just would be all spammers. - Robert Scoble

Robert - define spam... Is this post spam? - Brian Roy

Comment on the longest thread in Friendfeed history. - Mike Lewis

You're right! I forgot about the spammers :D - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

it seems pretty simple: post interesting things, interact thoughtfully, and be patient - Kelly W.

70. When all else fails, make interesting crap up about Robert, Gary, Brogan, etc.. - Todd Jordan

It isn't how many follow you... it is the quality of those you follow. But... that makes it hard to keep score and determine who is "winning". - Brian Roy

patient? I want 1000 followers and I want them now! ;) (actually, I am with Kelly on this one) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

How to get Robert et al to follow you - http://friendfeed.com/e... - Todd Jordan

Commentate on sports during the game or politics during debates. - Nicki Laycoax

Put a nice Twitter Icon on your blog like mine http://marketingtechblog.com - Douglas Karr

You know... Chris Brogan liked a post of mine and retweeted it letting everyone know... it ended up bringing me about 800 new visitors in the span of 2 hours. There's definitely something to be said about being seen with the right people. :) - Steven Sanders

Hey Robert, say something positive about each of us today? Really be a boost. - Todd Jordan

AVG works just fine for me under Windows 7! - Dave Oliver

Todd: you all are beautiful. And smart. That's why I am following everyone on this thread. - Robert Scoble

It's simple, but just do two things (in order): 1. Create good content. 2. Market that content in an intelligent, non-spammy way. - Daniel Miessler

Daniel: marketing part is what we're really talking about here. How to/who to/when to/where to/what to market. - Todd Jordan

OMG this is STILL alive?! WOW - Mona Nomura

Keep it going!!!! - Tyler (Chacha)

I'm wondering at how many comments this will start crashing browsers - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

That said: Talk about Twitter and FriendFeed all day every day. Don't forget to include: "I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA EXPERT" in all of your profiles. - Mona Nomura

Make special badges that scream your self proclaimed title. You know, kind of like flair? Or girl/boy scouts? - Mona Nomura

@Mona - heck yeah, huge % of new followers claim to be soc media experts. - Todd Jordan

Todd- FAIL. You forgot Rule #163. NAME DROP. @scobelizer (I'm just namedropping but really addressing Mona... err @monaaa) - Mona Nomura

Not call anyone out but I think it should be: " I AM A SOCIAL MEDIA SLUT!1!" ;-P - Mathew A. Koeneker

Mathew - CRAP you stole my thunder... I'm working on a blog post entitled "How to know if you are a social media slut"... thanks! - Brian Roy

Brian - I hope that comes after: "10,000 Ways to Effectively use Twitter for Business" - Mona Nomura

I wish FF would timestamp comments. It'd be interesting to know how this conversation flowed...or jumped around. - Liz

Mona - pretty sure those two are the same post... No? - Brian Roy

Liz: Just hang out over the little convo balloon to the left of the comments. It shows you how long ago the comment was left. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert

Be serious at ALL times since analyzing Social Networks with charts and graphs is THE FUTURE! - Mona Nomura

Announce your twitter address after saying the pledge of allegiance over the school intercom system. - David Rose

I drunk tweet all the time, and it doesn't help. People just email you AA invitations. - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

+1 Mona! I'll make a video of this :D - Yuvi

Since you are all here... I was wondering. Have you seen my car keys? - Brian Roy

Another would be to make a Bacon Fan Club Room. - Nicholas James

Will find out soon if becoming a social media diva pin-up acquires more followers :) - Nicola Quinn

PLAY with your followers and build a community of FANS. Start a meme, host a trivia session (@linnetwoods), do fun thematic Blip.fm sets (@jesseluna, @Dave_Malby), start a fun-spirited smackdown battle with another Twitterer (@Dana_Wilhoit and @SeanAMcAlister). UStream and play Wii while you're lightly toasted with a fun friend (@queenofspain) - Jesse P. Luna

Start your own threads using all and only Robert's suggestions. Originality means nothing, it's all about being a Robert clone! - Mona Nomura

Be imperfect, fragile, human - someone everyone can relate to. - Tomi Itkonen

Participate in memes where you can post old pictures of yourself from 70s, 80s or 90s. - Larry Kless

71. Create a list that combines Sex and Windows http://friendfeed.com/e... - Tyler (Chacha)

Hate on someone enough for them to write about you. It worked for Sean Hammons (Clicky) and Techcrunch.......... - Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)

i'm afraid some of those won't quite give you the right kind of followers - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

entertain! - kosmar

I'm wondering if everyone who has commented here is at least following each other now. - Nicola Quinn

Nicola - no. I think I have a block on my account that I can't figure out. ;) - Jim Mitchem

Oh dear Jim, that doesn't sound good. Just managed to subscribe to you so that's ok then. - Nicola Quinn

Nicola Quinn: I have not had one new follower from this, but I did have an entertaining conversation. - MarkCarras

There Mark, you've got at least one :) - Nicola Quinn

@nicola you followed me :) - kosmar

I tweet from jail on a regular basis - Alan Simpson

Kosmar, I did! You following me? - Nicola Quinn

@Scobleizer so far I tweet from party, wc, roadtrip, first minutes of the new year, wc again, meeting, boring meeting, boring presentation, wedding, engagement, hospital... I think I am on good track !!! - Alemsah Ozturk

Talk like you are deluded into thinking the iPhone and Apple computers are superior machines. - Mark Stahler

Help Robert getting 400 comments or any other all time high on friendfeed! - Gaby K. Slezák

Wow. 400. - Robert Scoble

Here's the 401st for good measure! I kinda use Twitter and FF to keep up with new, and record ideas and thoughts for myself, but if some people out there find a common ground with me, that's very cool! I think too much is placed on these online friend / follower counts overall tho... BTW, this comment is probably on the "How NOT to get more followers on Twitter or FF" list. :) Keep feeding me the knowledge Scobs! - AdPanda

You can order custom wine labels to bribe Scoble with at http://www.bottleyourbrand.com/ - Internet Strategist

Spell @Scobleizer correctly when trying to drop a name ... lol. - Robert Couture

Bump .... @charlieanzman. I can't believe this thread! - Charlie Anzman

Charlie - the sheer #s of comments or the fact that this is such a popular topic? - Susan Beebe

How can you possibly read all of this and get anything done? This is an example of FF overkill. - Scott Maentz

@Susan folks are now commenting for the fun of it. :) - Todd Jordan

Wow! I remember when this began as three items, then Scoble got all giddy and inspired and started this hilarious chain of absurdity. Well done Mr. @Scobleizer - Paul Povolni

Make sure to be a hater and nit-pick on every. little. thing. someone does online! - Mona Nomura

Take everything someone says as a personal attack and rant! - Mona Nomura

Complain about every. little. thing. - Mona Nomura

no Mona you are wrong. - Brian Roy

Change your display name everyday aNd mAkE sUrE tO tYpE LiKe DiS - Mona Nomura

Make sure to kiss a whole buncha *ss and name drop, name drop, name drop! - Mona Nomura

every 3rd comment should be "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooopooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooopoopoooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooppooooooooooooo oooo" wow... It is hard to enter that many o's on an iPhone. EDIT -> I put in spaces - apparently I annoyed Brandon... - Brian Roy

@Brian: Please edit your post so it doesn't break everyone's feed. I'd like to not hide this item. Thanks. - AJ Kohn

oh... Ok. It is hidden now. - Brian Roy

@Brian: Thank you. Greatly appreciated! - AJ Kohn

423 comments? :O - Will Higgins™

I think that I made a comment on this post but I can't find it. And Mona, you are cracking me up!! - BEX

I wonder if there is a limit to how many comments can be added to a post on FF - Susan Beebe

The funniest part about all this is that I've gotten a *ton* of followers for posting on this thread. Weird! I think once my programming-related FF activity resumes people will drop from my feed like flies :) - Eric Florenzano

Too bad I can't tweet the link (yet) -- of this 400+ comment -- I don't know how to call this. Not a Tweetversation by any means. A FFversation? Anyone come out with any sensible terms? - David Feng

I have some ideas, none of which are usable. - WorldofHiglet

subscribe to Friendfeeds for Twitter Celebs and read their Twitter hints... Start with Scoble.. - TechMama Beth Blecherman

I see "423 more comments". That's the most I have ever seen so far in FF! - Winston Teo

TechMama: that will work very well. Of course then you'll only be fed shallow news. The real good stuff is on the K list. They aren't on the bottom, so they have a few followers, but they really don't give a shit so they are very real and teach you stuff. Unfortunately they usually don't stay on the K list very long. They either get moved up pretty fast or they get put in rehab for social media addiction. - Robert Scoble

You don't. - David Spinks

What was this thread about? I forgot, AGAIN! - Jim Bednarz

Jim: me too, it's taken on a life of its own. Oh, yeah, it was about how to make money with friendfeed. Heheheh. Yeah, right! - Robert Scoble

Quick! Scoble's about to do a 'How to make money on friendfeed' post now. Looking for the hattrick ;~) - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

Ed: heheh. how to make money in friendfeed? Get a million followers. The money will come. Or maybe not. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: I guess you could charge for seminars on how to get a million followers ;D - Seth Greenblatt

Robert - Think you broke your own record with this one. 255 Likes and 437 comments ?! Guess nobody's embracing Friendfeed tonight :) - Charlie Anzman

Nobody's gonna read this, but I can't help observing that "I've got 10000 followers" is kinda like saying "I have 1000 books on my bookshelf", as if the number, not the content, is the important thing. - Mr. Gunn

Charlie .. his last one has 300 comments and over 300 likes I believe ... But this thread is 70 people away from reaching every single person on Friendfeed. (Given the 500 like rule) - Tyler (Chacha)

Better than the cover of Rolling Stone!! http://blog.twitter.com/2009... - Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct

ChaCha - Ya gotta love it. Now when he reaches everyone on the Internet ... :) - Charlie Anzman

Susan - Wasn't ignoring you ... just got lost in the middle of this ScobleChaChaMeMeWhateverItIs ... night all :) - Charlie Anzman

Most importantly, get followed by @scobleizer hope he retweets, likes and/or comments on your posts. - Christian Anderson

Christian: that's fair. I keep hoping you retweet, like, or comment on mine! :-) - Robert Scoble

Yikes, I see there are 442 "collapsed" comments that follow Robert Scoble's teaser! (I won't dare to "expand" them - it would take ages to read them all.) The subject clearly preys on people's minds... Scoble has a knack for hitting the right button! - Yule Heibel

I wonder if Mobile Safari would have such an implosion that the iPhone would shatter in my hands, if I tried to expand that thread. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

doing video works pretty well too :) - Loic Le Meur

great, robert, this is *really* pushing the limit :) - Alberto D'Ottavi

tweet about the size of Robert's ..... =X - Rachael Depp

whoa comment frenzy! @FriendFeed can you please build a Comment Quality filter before I attempt to make sense of all this user generated erm "content"? Now there's a question: how do we measure Comment Quality? - Bob Hitching

And then you hate IM... - Dario Salvelli

I was lucky enough to arrive at his 3rd or 4th point... it was amazing to see it happen on the fly, as I and other people jumped in. It was like a chat room or IM chat. - Simon T Small

Oh, and by commenting a couple of times on this post, I got 36 new twitter followers and about 6 new friend feed followers in 12 hours - Simon T Small

omg.. why isn´t there a comment link on the bottom as well ? Especially useful on the iphone. I forgot the witty remark that would ensure me thousands of followers by the time I finger-scrolled to the top and to the bottom again on this insanely long thread. Oh, well, at least my comments are seen sometimes.. hello ? - Thomas Bøhm

I do like how #1: Stop your bloody begging and whining for followers is still showing though. :-P - Mathew A. Koeneker

this is so last week... - Edward Zwart

Robert: You need to add one more. "Send Tweets from a Ferry when a plane crashes on the Hudson" like http://twitter.com/jkrums - Alex Sauceda

"Hudson-Plane" and the Web2.0 viralism response http://friendfeed.com/rooms... ; http://friendfeed.com/e... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010

Re: 18., Tweet from the great beyond. INSANE follow numbers then. ;-p - mtlb

This is certainly quite interesting thread. I wonder how many Likes this will get. :D - Daniel Schildt

This thread has become a meme unto itself. As I once said, Robert Scoble plays social media like a virtuoso musician. FTW - Sheldon Steiger from twhirl

this stuff works for real! wow! - Siddharth Parmar

I felt like bumping the most discussed conversation ever on Friendfeed. Here ya go - Tyler (Chacha)

or tweet about this friendfeed-post! - bumping ;-) - Torsten Eckert

Become a Needle in a Haystack - geekazine

Have them join up on sprnch and watch them walk around in real time. http://sprnch.com/search_... - SpRnch

Orli Yakuel

I now have more than 2,000 members on my Google Friend Connect, and all I can say is that search is a MUST!

December 15, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Ryan Kuder

OpenID question. If someone else knows my identity URL and I'm signed in at that OpenID provider, can they sign in as me on OpenID sites? Or would they need to verify the password for each site?

December 15, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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No, there is an authentification process using a pwd. - Shamir Ramjan

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So even if the OpenID is verified, it still needs another authentification process? ... :\ - Mona Nomura

If you're signed in to your OpenID provider, then anyone on your computer is effectively you. On other computers, no. No different than being logged in with a password to each site. - Nathan Howell

For each site? Here's the usecase: I signed into to comment on a Typepad blog with my OpenID. It shows my identity URL in the comment. Should I be concerned about people knowing that URL? If someone knows it, could they go to a bunch of Typepad blogs and comment as me since I'm logged into Typepad via that OpenID provider? - Ryan Kuder

Ryan, my understanding is that the fact that you're signed in is a combination of that URL and a cookie that's been set on your computer. Go to a computer without the cookie, and you'll have to reauthenticate with the OpenID password. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

@Ryan: yes for each site, each time you need to connect to your favorite blogs, website etc. for instance, flickr is now an OpenID provider and your usual url (ie: http://flickr.com/photos/shr) can be re-used as an OpenId url. But.. if you're using it, you'll have to logg on your OpenId secured profiles, sign-in etc. - Shamir Ramjan

Great. I'll go ahead and comment and if anyone steals my identity, I'll blame Shamir, Tina, and Nathan. - Ryan Kuder

Your URL is like your username. Totally public, no worries. It's that password you use at the OpenID provider that matters. It needs to be secret and secure. As Tina says, it's required to set the cookie on your computer. Only your computer is logged in, so no, no one anywhere else can impersonate you if you are logged in. Unless, of course, they know your OpenID password. - Nathan Howell

@Ryan: Blame the OpenID foundation, they need to communicate a lot and explain how the system is easy and secure. Nice challenge for them in 09.. - Shamir Ramjan

Thomas Hawk

SnapShot of friendfeed.com (rank #2,999), twitter.com (#395) - Compete - http://siteanalytics.compete.com/friendf...

December 5, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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For the past several months I've been comparing Twitter vs. FriendFeed each month when Compete.com updates their stats. For a while FF was dramatically outgrowing Twitter on a month over month basis. Then FF sort of stalled for a few months coming out strong last month with higher growth than Twitter. For November though it would appear that while Twitter barely grew at all 2.3%, FF actually *lost* users, declining -12.6% in unique visitors. - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

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After gaining significant momentum during October with the upgrade, FF does feel to have slowed down a bit for me during the month of November. Not sure if this is indeed the case or why. What does FF need to do to regain growth? - Thomas Hawk

Post-election drop-off? People afraid of getting laid off and spending more time working, less time goofing off on FF? - Mike Doeff

good point Mike. The post election thing could be part of it. But you'd think that this would also affect Twitter who actually grew 2.3% during Nov. - Thomas Hawk

Maybe the election brought people to FF seeking a place to interact, now that it's over...that political element is all but gone. Just a guess. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF

Interesting that FF's decline coincides with their intro of IM. Here's where unique visitors fails. If some power users switched to IM, they wouldn't get picked up on Comscore, nor be measured in any way. - Karoli

Twitter still showed positive growth but if you compare it to Sep-Oct it looks like it slowed down a little - Mike Doeff

Good point too Karoli, I personally am not using IM for FF and did not think it's adoption was that substantial. Are others here using IM for FF instead of the web? - Thomas Hawk

I mostly use IM. I'm not today because my screen is right in front of me, but most days I do use IM. - Karoli

as a long-time blogger, traffic always decreases during the holidays - people always have other stuff to do - William Harryman

one thought on a way that FF could growis to tap the power of Flickr's "groups." Flickr offers very few ways to track user activity in groups and this is where many of their most active users spend the most time. If you could offer these users a value proposition you could move some extremely active people over to FriendFeed. For starters, if FF could use the Flickr API to track anytime someone started a group thread conversation at Flickr that would actually be fairly significant. - Thomas Hawk

Twitter is getting huge publicity, FF is getting none, only word of mouth. FF could fix it, with some pretty straightforward positioning and hiring a PR firm to talk to the right people. - Dave Winer

I'm more likely to use other means of accessing FF since I got my G1 at the end of October. Now posting my mail, FFtoGo, and IM are possible even when I'm not tethered to the laptop. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

I'd like to se adoption trends from the same point of origin, so Twitter started year or two before, and may have had a similar adoption trend, as FF since its origin. See what I mean? In a wy we're comparing a more mature service- twitter- to a newer one- FF, and judging them against each other in empiric time when we should be using relative time. - anna sauce

interesting point Dave. It's not just about building a better mousetrap, it's as much about *promoting* a better mousetrap. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas, at some level it's all marketing, explaining your product relative to the others. FF has resisted that not because the product can't be compared to the others, it can -- but the company hasn't wanted to do it. If I were in their shoes I'd be all over it. - Dave Winer

What about Alexa's graphs, out of interest? Although I don't know accurate they are, since they require users to install a proprietary browser toolbar to collect them, if I remember correctly. - Tyson Key

I do feel like some of the most popular and active FF users, on average, have spent more time on Twitter vs. FF in Nov. than they did in Oct. Maybe they are not and it just seems like they are though. - Thomas Hawk

Give you an example -- look at how good the rollout of bit.ly went. The service is very good, the programmers do good work, but there was more to it. The feature set was put together to shoot at a position above all the others, as the professional URL shortener. In deciding whether a feature belonged or didn't the key criteria was would a developer want the feature. As it evolves I think you'll see that it is consistent in that way. - Dave Winer

Anna, I suspect that FF has grown more in their first year than Twitter did in it's first year. Just a guess but it feels right. The question is can FF continue an explosive growth rate from here. What must FF do to continue significant growth and move beyond a niche service for early adopters? - Thomas Hawk

I'm going to write a piece on The Graphics Gap, that's what FF does that Twitter doesn't. And if I understand the Twitter folk correctly, it's part of their DNA not to go graphic. So it should be a position with some life to it. - Dave Winer

Dave, why do you think FF has resisted this? Why do you think the company has not wanted to compare it's service to others? - Thomas Hawk

Tyson, I haven't been using Alexa for comparison purposes here. Might be worth taking a look at. Unless you install Sparky though Alexa doesn't measure Firefox browsers I believe. I'd assume a lot of both Twitter and FF users are not using IE. - Thomas Hawk

I bet ff will overcome - Picolo

Thomas I have no opinion about that -- I'm a strong believer that if you want to know what someone thinks you should ask them. They're around. - Dave Winer

Don't you prefer FF cause your photos are visible right there on the page? Look at this item, theres a graph at the top of the page. You could do some of this in Twitter, but there would be no color, no visuals. - Dave Winer

Yes Dave, as a photographer and as someone who is very visual as a person, I think that the photos add *tremendously* to FF over Twitter. I actually think many people like the imagery here on FF vs. text only on Twitter. A picture's worth a thousand words sometimes and all that. But I think FF is a far superior platform for many other reasons as well and am surprised though that some people try this out and abandon it going back to Twitter full time. - Thomas Hawk

Pownce had pictures too and they died though. I think FF needs more than just photos to distinguish itself. Maybe you are right and it's mostly just about PR at this point. Or maybe there should be other things that FF could be doing to push growth as well. - Thomas Hawk

I think the minimalistic way FF has done threaded messaging is huge. Twitter can't compete with that. But I've seen a slow adoption (amongst friends) on FF because of how it's hard to explain. So marketing steps in there, imho. They should hire me. - anna sauce

Anyone with Hitwise access who can triangulate these numbers? FYI - take a look at the Pages/Visit and Time Spent figures on Compete as well. - AJ Kohn

Showing my ignorance here -- but where to the numbers charted here come from-- how are they determined? - Brian Sullivan

I wonder how many FriendFeeders do like I do -- just show up once every week or so to play catch-up? Whereas I have a tab open to Twitter most of the day. - mark zero (Jason)

For some reason I always enjoy my time more, and get more out of FF than Twitter - and still I can feel I have this idea for some reason, that Twitter is the place I should be hanging out... - Peter Efland

FriendFeed is growing, I'm about to pass 22,000 followers, but I've maintained since the start that FF won't grow until we get good filtering. When I can say something to the database here like "Show me all items that have Canon in them and that also have 3 likes and 4 comments that have been posted in past 30 days" then you'll see FriendFeed massively take off. I'll bet anyone $100 on that. - Robert Scoble

I started with Twitter but have found myself spending more time on FF lately and getting more out of it. Twitter's great but it does come down to ability to filter through conversations and FF seems to do that better by keeping comments grouped together making it easier to isolate conversation around a given topic, post, or piece of content. - Mike Elliott

If anyone wants FriendFeed to grow they could give me a hand. I recognized an opportunity to tie FF into TwiTips Twitter contest, have made multiple posts, personally contacted everyone who responded in any way, and am posting updates here. Any chance any of you might jump on board and support the Top Ten Favorite FriendFeed Friends Challenge? http://www.growmap.com/friendf... - Internet Strategist

Here are some other ideas: Blog about how you use FF, what it is good for, who you follow and why. Share links to discussions like this over at Twitter and elsewhere. Recommend FF when leaving comments in other blogs when relevant. Start discussions here. Be active in a room here. Perhaps some don't realize yet that every seed they plant benefits their own blogs and Web sites? If anyone wants support in their efforts I'd be happy to assist. - Internet Strategist

Is FF listening to suggestions like Scoble's about filtering (a few above this one)? There may be cons I don't know about but the ability to "like" individual comments like that one would be beneficial. - Internet Strategist

Scott Beale

beware the FailWhale is eating your followers

July 23, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Twitter is FUBAR Come to http://identi.ca/igorthetroll - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

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Is it possible that the missing followers are inactive? - Ontario Emperor from fftogo

I really hope it is just a temp DB error. Even so, for this error I would take off my investment from Twitter and put it in something that really has a future. Maybe identica? You can find me there: http://identi.ca/lemec - Alex Popescu from twhirl

Yeah, if it's not, and people have really lost followers/followees, it's a disaster. - Ian Betteridge from twhirl

I smell this has to do with some anti-spamming code gone wrong - Jorge Escobar

Mine's fine. Mom always said, never trust a troll :) - jcunwired

Maybe Twitter's not just dropping db tables; maybe the missing twitter-ites are now network unpersons, doomed to drift the SN aether - Derrick Burns

It is the doing of @amandachapel and "her" Twitter developers friends! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

@Jorge I'd say this is a smell of unresponsible coders. I really hope they have at least a backup. - Alex Popescu from twhirl

Twitter is working on it: http://status.twitter.com/post... - Scott Beale

@Scott I'm glad they didn't throw out random users to increase performance. - Benedikt Koehler

Damn it! It's not over! - fbrunel

failwhale eating all of twitter for me right now - Deva Hazarika

500 of my followers just got eaten by the FAIL WHALE....EPIC FAIL ...augh! - Susan Beebe

Twitter is broken it unfollowed all my followers! Did same to many of my friends! Come to http://identi.ca/igorthetroll - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

a lot of contemporary problems would be solved if we can accept that DNA "DOES" decide certain things. It is not bigoted of me to say that being Jewish gives me access to certain DNA that does certain things. Mark Davidson is wrong! DNA is like twitter... is twitter's architecture evil? No... only if you get hysterical about it and start bullying people about what they can do with their... more... - Noah David Simon

A 'looking into it' message is not able to cool me down. I am usually not harsh, but for me peeps working on Twitter are becoming synonymous with poor amatures. - Alex Popescu from twhirl

I feel this message needs to get out there. I don't spam... but I think this message is so relevant to a bunch of threads. I took the black hat approach. I am not afraid to do that at times... it is a matter of balance for me. I don't work in absolutes. If I felt that what I had to say was not important to so much that was going on I would demand that you block me. please take that into consideration before taking action. I think these things through. twitter has done a huge disservice! - Noah David Simon

Twitter is broken it unfollowed all my followers! Did same to many of my friends! Come to http://identi.ca/igorthetroll - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Oh look... and now it's down for "maintenance." I think they just need the fail whale swimming around with a roll of duct tape. - Cyndy

om nom nom - Veronica

I think it's time for Mike to update this shirt: http://laughingsquid.com/fail-wh... - Scott Beale

didn't you design the whale? or am I mistaken? - Noah David Simon

"We expect to be back in about an hour. Thanks for your patience." - Susan Beebe

Try this Twitter Fail Whale design http://friendfeed.com/e... - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Ahhhh the Twitter crapwhale...I mean failwhale...well...oh whatever - Dave Saunders from twhirl

Twitter is like the ailing wife, while Plurk is the slutty neighbor. Eventually, your first love will take over. I will NEVER leave Twitter. And you can quote me as saying so. - Juan Carlo Rodríguez

Jeremiah Owyang

I so miss HawaiiI... - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...

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See all photos here http://www.web-strategist.com/blog... - Jeremiah Owyang from Bookmarklet

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I just got back from Maui - and now want to go back - Dave Hodson

Heading there in two weeks (Honolulu). - Hutch Carpenter

Indeed, I can imagine very easily. Nice shots. - Shamir Ramjan

Beautiful photo - Corie

Lived there 5 years as a kid....SIgh - lonnie

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