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Lora Heiny
Flower displays at Buchart Gardens were spectacular!
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These look so peaceful - LPH™ and his dog P™
Love that place! - Robert Scoble
Was really crowded on Saturday, but beautiful flowers! - Lora Heiny
Steve Rubel
The Rise and Fall of Twitter - http://zenhabits.tumblr.com/post...
absolutely hilarious - Hitler shouting "give tumblr a try? Do I look like I'm wearing a dress" is perfectly over the top and absurd - PaulJohnson
Too funny :D - Mohamed J
This is one of favorite video's that I've seen in a long time.!!! - Michael Fidler from twhirl
OMG that's hilarious. "Twitter is down. Robert Scoble overloaded the servers." ROFL! - B.L. Ochman
Honestly the funniest thing I've seen in ages. Thanks for sharing! - Shannon
I like to see a parody video about Twitter with Robert Scoble playing the part of Hitler! LMAO Can we get the little mustache on Scoblee? ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Any Hitler parody: under 27 yo will say, "who is funny man in mustache?". - Alan Wilensky from twhirl
you guys just saw this? this is old... but very funny - Noah David Simon
Steve Rubel
Facebook Growth By Age Group: Share of College-Age Users is Declining - http://radar.oreilly.com/2008...
Steve Rubel
It's official, I can't add any more social networks to my life. I am maxed out. Take a number.
I think its true for most of the Hyperconnected individuals... - Sampad Swain from twhirl
I'm only a participant in 2. Friendfeed and Twitter. I've yet to discover a need for anything else. - Keith - @tsudo
I pretty much just participate in FF, with a li'l Twitter and SocialMedian on the side. Shiny shiny doesn't cut it if I don't feel the urge to interact. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I wouldn't say that. I keep joining to them, but of course I'm using just few of them. - Bibi
I had high hopes for Rejaw, but once Mona stopped using it, it became way less interesting - Kevin L
Well, you don't have to start using Yammer. :) - Morton Fox
I just have FF. Life is busy enough. - Roberto Bonini
Ah just link them all up to FF - James Tenniswood
Does that mean you don't want my super private alpha invite to an innovative new network I'm starting?? :) - Amanda Mooney
Alright Steve. You stay put and you will get lapped by the rest. :-) - Louis Gray
C'mon Steve... you must make room for Plaxo. ;-) - Jennifer Leggio
I'm so there. It's Louis' fault - Charlie Anzman
Social saturation.:) - Igor Poltavskiy
social networks are a playground, explore as much as you can, play with teh shiniest toys only :-) - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Mona Nomura
best. advice. ever.
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Ew. I wonder where this is from? - Kamilah Gill
Frank Zappa, oh sorry you meant country, I'll get me coat - Toby Graham
I love that it is Bambi peeing. - Kevin Bondelli
With her leg up LOL!!!!! - Mona Nomura
Isn't Bambi a boy? - Kevin Bondelli
Um, do deer really pee backwards? I find that image ... disturbing. :) - felix
What about these chocolate pretzels I found? - Johnny Worthington
Bambi's a boy?! I thought it was a girl! :O - Mona Nomura
LOL - Selma
imagine advice's value in Nordic country... ;) - A.T.
Deer gender FAIL. - Kevin Bondelli
Its ironic that the warning is incased in what appears to be a Yield Sign. I guess they want you to consider what you're doing before you chow down on some yellow foam cake. Classic - Terence
Damn, Bambi has some pressure built up. - Stephan Miller from fftogo
first snowboarders rule - bifurcafe
:O!! Is that an owl?! - Mona Nomura
+1 Stephen miller - Gautam Guliani
One New Year's Day, a guy knocks on his neighbour's door. "Your son has *ahem* written his name in the snow on my lawn." Neighbour replies "So? It's just youthful high spirits. It is New Years after all?." Comes the response, "Well, yeah, but it's in MY daughter's handwriting." - Slappy Line
I've been in trouble for writing this as my personalization in most greeting cards. No joke. It's what I always write in cards. My grandparents had the saying on a Snoopy mug. - l0ckergn0me
Steve Rubel
Facebook has added a nice toolbar at the bottom of the page, similar to YouTube.
Jeremiah Owyang
Op-Ed Columnist - Palin and McCain’s Shotgun Marriage - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
Wow, well written piece by Frank Rich at NTY - Dan Keldsen from twhirl
Oops, NYT that is. (coffee where are you?) - Dan Keldsen from twhirl
Jeremiah Owyang
Words not to say in an analyst briefing or client meeting http://sagecircle.wordpress.com/2008... compliments of @sagecircle
Jeremiah, this article states, "... can be a red flag if the claim does not match the analyst’s view of the market." My question would be whether analysts are ever off base themselves? I do not know very much about that side of the coin, so I would be interested in your insight as a more prominent figure in this industry. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Change, read the types of terms uses, they are pretty obvious they are marketing spin and hype words "best in class, top tier, superduper bestest ever" - Jeremiah Owyang
change - yes analyst can be off base too - it's a human thang ;) - mike "glemak" dunn
Gotcha... in reading the article I was pretty impressed with what the analyst is really tasked in doing. That seems like a wonderful thing to have a supposed independent party helping to sort through the "fluff" to find out if the offering is the real deal or not. I suppose I was wondering if you all felt there was a lot of "greasing of palms" or if it is like all else where a few bad apples give the entire group a bad rap... Thanks for the clarification gang. Good write up, and thanks for sharing. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Greasing the palms? I think that's what my teacher warned us about in sex ed right? Seriously though. I've some very angry clients who are not happy how I positioned them in reports. It matters not if they're a client or not. Without being unbiased, I have no credibility, and then no job. - Jeremiah Owyang
agreed, some analyst firms are paid to write product review reports and some tend to be unbiased - individual analysts do also have their own bias as well as limits to their levels of expertise - gathering multiple sources is the way I deal with those issues - mike "glemak" dunn
Yes Mike., that's called Research, and I'm all for it. - Jeremiah Owyang
Duncan Riley
Beer drinkers sue to keep Bud Lite American - http://www.inquisitr.com/3054...
but Bud Lite isn't really beer. - Jim: Dead Like FF
Chris Brogan
How to Use Friendfeed as a Collaborative Business Tool - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/how-to-...
finally one of the sharing and/or micromedia sites got the simple group thing right - this is working well for us with the Social Media Club room which replaced our mailing list - it is also working pretty well for a research project at my agency we just started yesterday - Chris Heuer
I have added the Friendfeed app to my Facebook profile. I love how I can share something from my Google Reader, then it shows up on Friendfeed, Facebook, Blog Catalog, MyBlogLog, etc. I can have activity in many places with one click! - Mary-Lynn
Jeremiah Owyang
Comparison of how Movable Type vs Six Apart use Twitter: http://cecily.info/2008... Who's using Twitter better?
I think you meant WordPress and Six Apart, like your blog post says, right, Jeremy? - Tom Guarriello
Henrik Johansson
great photos man, the color are amazing - Sorin Jucovschi from twhirl
Barrie is a great photographer, with lots of amazing work. You should definitely check out his photos. - Henrik Johansson
Robert Scoble
Look at this photo. Do we need THAT many photographers taking photos? http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins...
Does WHO need that many? Me? No. But they all probably work for different outlets. Each outlets needs to have a cameraperson there, right? - Andru Edwards
Yeah, juxtapose this with the fact that there was only one video feed for the opening ceremonies. - Alex Scoble
Which is how China was able to inject the computer generated images of the "firework" footprints. - Alex Scoble
Wow. Corral is definitely the right word. I wonder if it's first come, first seated? - Lisa L. Seifert
At least they have paying work. - tom sparks
Also think of it as commiditising the images - one camera, one source, one expensive picture! - Simon Bisson from twhirl
If they actually were spread around and had different points of view it might make sense but my guess is that 5 or 10 total would guarantee complete coverage. Of course Nikon and Canon are happy - Brian Sullivan
If copyright law wasn't so screwed up, then yes, it might make sense to have one or a few photographers, and then distribute their photos. But that would never work in our screwed up world... - Josh Bancroft
Why? If you've ever seen the crying accordion player at FDR's funeral you would know why. Everyone was taking pics of the funeral, and one photog turned around to take this classic shot (which I think won several awards) http://www.mishalov.com/images... - Andrew Leyden
and maybe some of them are simply doing it for their photoblog :) - Midori
Not all photogs are created equal. not all are looking for the same shot. Some might be better at shooting one sport than another. I know I can shoot rowing better than I can shoot baseball. - Andrew Feinberg
Andrew: You mention rowing. Did you mean sculling? Have you done much shooting of kayaking? - Mathew A. Koeneker
I'd shoot sweep rowing (one oar per athlete) differently from sculling (two oars per athlete). I haven't shot kayaking at all. but I'd probably be shooting sprint, not whitewater. - Andrew Feinberg
If only we could have access to all of those pictures, and digitally combine them into a single explorable gigapixel image... - Chris Hollander
i wonder if they realize that they could take a high quality video and capture like a trillion stills from it ;) - Steven Livingstone-Pérez from twhirl
seriously ridiculous amount of photogs in attendance in the "corral" - Susan Beebe
Probably not... but who decides who actually gets to shot that? Who are the best photographers, do they have a 'club'? If I'm not the best photographer, how am I ever gonna get the chance to try or indeed learn if I'm never accepted into the club. Not every lens is always aimed at the one thing. If we didn't have a variety of pictures then complaints would be raised about the lack of coverage. Or maybe the government could pick them. I'd take oversaturation to maintain freedom of the press than say... China - Johnny Worthington
Can you see Thomas Hawk in there? - Adam Helweh
you can say the same about blogs - Antonio Altamirano
The better question is : Do we need THAT much RebelXT's lol ;) - Martin Gommel from feedalizr
Do we need THAT many newspapers? Do we need THAT many news websites? Do we need THAT many magazines? Do we need THAT many news TV stations? Why won't we all be hooked up to our big brother central news feed and live like drones???? - Amit Morson
Do we need this many blogs? :-) - Colby Olson
If you were paid to go by FastCompany to cover the tech angle would you have gone and my other question (like colby) is do we need so many bloggers at each conference covering the same thing. 1. Its bad for your carbon footprint and 2. The noise is the same with a slight twist. - sam sethi
For a great behind-the-scenes insight into the work of photographers at the Olympics I highly recommend this Newsweek blog, co-authored by their 3 photographers in Beijing: http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs.... - Ole Begemann
Sam: seriously? I am the one who makes the resource decisions for Fast Company TV and I could never justify taking so much time off to cover an event that so many others are covering. I try not to do that anymore even when the event is in my backyard, much less in China. No, we don't need so many bloggers covering the same thing at events. That's why I don't try to go to things anymore with lots of other bloggers. - Robert Scoble
do we need this many tech bloggers ? - Dave Ploch from fftogo
Dave: probably not. But one thing, we aren't using up lots of resources and we're not complaining that we're getting laid off from our jobs (hundreds of journalists in San Francisco area alone have lost their jobs recently thanks to the business model of newspapers changing radically). So, the comparison does not stand up. - Robert Scoble
I blame copyright laws. They're all taking essentially the same photo, but IP laws prevent them from sharing it. - Gabe
agreed, but I would argue the point about resources. Bloggers are extremely green. Also, how many blogger have this as their sole income or even as their only responsibilty in a business? - Dave Ploch
not green I meant - Dave Ploch
Gabe: that's not true. The Associated Press exists for sharing photos and saving journalistic resources. My photo of John Edwards was given to the Associated Press and dozens of newspapers and TV stations used it. - Robert Scoble
Robert. Really - I don't understand the schadenfreude? It's actually starting to sound chippy. Andrew was actually spot on. Out of the thousands of photos taken, only a very few are actually goint to be sufficiently interesting to warrant sticking on the page. One of the things I miss about newspapers and like when I do still pick them up, is a great page composition with a fabulous photo. - mattpovey
you're right. One guy with a flickr Account would have been enough. - Bertrand Duperrin
I really don't see the semi-obsession with this. Who is supposed to now decide how many is enough? Who is supposed to tell us how we can make a living, or what is worth taking a picture of. I know I wouldn't;t be thrilled with only one or two photographers being allowed to shoot there. What is this supposed to be saying about us? That all around the world humans are interested int he performance of the most gifted athletes on earth? Why am I supposed to feel bad about that again? - Soulhuntre
Similarly I don't "blame" IP laws - though obviously they are a factor here. But that's a good thing. It is a GOOD thing that humans are allowed to own what they produce... anything else is slavery. The right to decide what I produce, and who benefits from it, is to me a core human right. Besides, many of those photos will be resold time and again. - Soulhuntre
I agree with Soulhuntre -- let the market decide. Those photog are there meeting someone's demand, right or wrong. - Charles Barthold from Alert Thingy
I think it would be easier if all these outlets just told common people , send us your pics, we'll pay if its used in our publication. However, I dont think the common man has faith with the MSM.. as MSM are perecived as crooks .. take the pic, pub it and dont let any1 know who sent it in. - Peter Dawson
I guess that if you consider the number of events that will take place in that area, the number of competitors taking part in those events and the number of countries that might want photographs and the various styles of photography of those publications, then its not too surprising. I does raise a good question though why do we all feel the need to take so many photographs i just went walking in Wales and took shots of some hills that if i search on flickr i would find thousands of images shared under cc. - david coxon
Wm. Marc Salsberry
I guess the cat is out of the bag about my super secret new project: PitchSpace.com get some insight into it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media...
send invite ;) - Nicole Simon
Robert Scoble
Study: Fastest Growing US Companies Rapidly Adopting Social Media - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Yet another good justification for pitching hard and intense to my bosses about how we should go social :) - Hayk H.
what isn't clear to me is if the use of social media is only external or if these companies are using the tools of social media to increase collaboration and learning within their own organizations. The latter case may do a better job of proving that the use contributes to the growth and innovation of the companies studied. - Eric Newman
Steve Rubel
Duncan Riley
Antares the Siberian Tiger Cub [Cute Overload] - http://www.inquisitr.com/2351...
Antares the Siberian Tiger Cub [Cute Overload]
Antares the Siberian Tiger Cub [Cute Overload]
Want! At least, want until it's big enough to rip my arm off. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
YES PLEASE! - Mona Nomura
Christian the Lion's cousin? - Morgan
it's like an iPhone for animal lovers? - Pascal
Mona, you think he is cute now? Wait till he grows up! He will have you for breakfast! LMAO - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Awww. Too cute. - Roberto Bonini
cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeee - saeedeh
Look at that there... THAT is a prince. Wow. The great cats have SO much poise! They LOOK like the kings of the jungle. - Parth Awasthi
Once over the cute overdose, I must say, I understand how animals this powerful need to be this adorable when they are young. It's the only way to survive. What a gorgeous picture. - Juan Carlo Rodríguez
Super cute! :D - BeeLing
These two are gorgeous!! Reminds of that film "Two Brothers" (at least I think that was the name) :) - Melanie Reed
Ooops! I now see that it is just 2 shots of one cub...still cuteness. ;) - Melanie Reed
Duncan Riley
haha! - felix
I think I rented that costume for Holloween a few years ago! lol - Jim McCusker
Chris Nixon
Disqus and FriendFeed Rock Again [Good Customer Service] - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
MG Siegler
Michael Phelps' victory dance is innate, scientists say - Los Angeles Times - http://www.latimes.com/news...
Michael Phelps' victory dance is innate, scientists say - Los Angeles Times
"The exuberant dance of victory -- arms thrust toward the sky and chest puffed out at a defeated opponent -- turns out to be an instinctive trait of all primates -- humans included, according to research released Monday." - MG Siegler from Bookmarklet
That's really interesting. It is crazy what we have locked inside of us. - Frankie Warren
I've also heard that great excitement produces the urge to yell really loud. Amazing, science is. - Bwana ☠
@Bwana , source please :) - Mattb4rd
I misread the headline. I thought it said his dance was inane. - Capn' One Eye - adrift
Steve Rubel
Happy 08-08-08 everyone.
Nice I just realized that as well. - Mathew A. Koeneker
What no card? - James Tenniswood
Last year on 07-07-07 we had a great weddings day here but for some reason 8 is less popular. - Svetlana Gladkova from twhirl
For those who are religious: Sorry, a reminder that nothing happened two years ago on the same d/m/y. - Josh Jenkins
Steve are you Chinese or taking care of all followers? ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Yeah Steve if you are a Buddhist, please give me 800 usd in a red envelope! lol - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Here in Denmark it's the big wedding day - Martin Liechti
@Svetlana: I can only assume it's because of the superstition that 7 is a lucky number, thus 07-07-07 would be a lucky day to begin something. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
@Stupid Blogger: Yes, that's what was what they hoped for last year. But in China 8 is deemed as a better number so maybe not a bad way to start something in Chinese style as well - like learn to cook something of Chinese cuisine. - Svetlana Gladkova from twhirl
In Japan 4 is unlucky number! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
@Svetlana @Stupid Blogger - 07-07-07 was impossible to get as a wedding date..coincided with my birthday, but was booked full for weddings YEARS before I knew I'd be looking for a wedding date. - Sally: baby flier
Dammit, someone beat me to it. - Helen Sventitsky
@Sally: Here in Russia people got married for almost 24 hours that day - the latest weddings almost at midnight. So almost everyone who wanted to get married on that day managed to do it. - Svetlana Gladkova from twhirl
Mitchell Tsai
Screensaver & Wallpaper Photos [Webshots] - http://www.webshots.com/g...
Screensaver & Wallpaper Photos [Webshots]
Screensaver & Wallpaper Photos [Webshots]
Screensaver & Wallpaper Photos [Webshots]
Annoying small preview pics & very annoying interface. Take the small 280 previews & feed them into TinEye to find bigger photos elsewhere. - Mitchell Tsai from Bookmarklet
First thumbnail looks like Mordor! - Toby Graham
Ha! Maybe not as dark as Mordor. :-) #1 is Snake River - Grand Teton National Park, Wyoming (1024×768) http://friendfeed.com/e... http://boolsite.net/images... - Mitchell Tsai
Steve Rubel
11 Lessons to Learn From Honest Abe, the Bumbling Entrepreneur - http://feeds.lifedev.net/~r...
Great advice! - Steve Rubel
Very nice article! - Ramona Bates
Duncan Riley
Voice dialing and copy and paste both come to the iPhone — via apps - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Jeremiah Owyang
@moon points to discussions on twitter about the blasts in Bangalore http://search.twitter.com/search...
Steve Rubel
When I hold my iPhone in my hands, look down and type with my thumbs I resemble a praying mantis.
@gregory, I think they'll also be bent over a bit further as well, given increasing costs... - Mo Kargas
lol, I always chuckle thinking about a proximity sensor that would alert me if I'm about to walk into a pole. - Frankie Warren
praying hands...wasn't that a devo song? - sean808080
Do you really get to a point that you can type on the thing with your thumbs? After 10 days with mine, I don't see that day coming any time soon. I am still a strictly one pointer finger gal. I can't even select a recent call in the list with my thumb without accidentally calling 3 people I didn't mean. - Judi Sohn
Judi yes I can type with my thumbs very quickly. - Steve Rubel
Judi you will do. I can do about 50 words per minute quite comfortable using two thumbs (and my thumbs are big). In fact, using my index fingers feels plain weird now. - Jamie
Hunched shoulder are already a national problem. - Francine Hardaway
MG Siegler
VentureBeat donutfest aka iPhone 3G launch
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Sent from iPhone 1.0 - MG Siegler from email
damn - Allen Stern
delicious :) - Timo Heuer
there were many more, the crowds are hungry - MG Siegler
Steve Rubel
iPhone App Store is now live in iTunes 7.7.
Left hand side between Audibooks and Radio.There's an ebook reader, Google Mobile and more! - Steve Rubel
not yet here in Italy :) - Federico [Kurai] from twhirl
@Jay you can download them but there's no firmware yet. - Steve Rubel
Federico: I can see it. But I don't have an iPod Touch or an Iphone, alas! - Zio Bonino
...odd. iTunes update tells me that I have the current verison (7.6.2.9) - JA Castillo from twhirl
Zio bonino: WTF? it keeps me saying the store is unavailable... - Federico [Kurai] from twhirl
@Federico hai aggiornato iTunes alla 7.7? Entra nello store e cerca "App" - Stefano Mainardi
now it's working. Ebook reader only with ebooks sold through the store? Crazy. - Federico [Kurai] from twhirl
Current eReader titles / libraries will work with the eReader app. I have five years worth of titles that I've used on Windows / Windows Mobile. They will ALL work with the iPhone app. ;) - Kevin C. Tofel
I am stoked to find eReader in there. May speed up my iPhone purchase. :) - James Kendrick
really? How you upload them? Does it read even pdf books? - Federico [Kurai] from twhirl
@Frederico: your library is stored on the Fictionwise server at all times, so you can just download titles you've already purchased. The app will likely have the eReader store so you can browse, buy and DL new titles. That's how it works on WinMo, so I suspect it should generally be the same. - Kevin C. Tofel
Kevin, how do we get (existing, purchased) ebooks on to the device though? Any idea? - John Samuelson
@John, I suspect the eReader app will let you download from your library on the Fictionwise server directly. You can do that on WinMo. I just got confirmation that we have a call with the owner of Fictionwise today so I'll have more info to share. :) - Kevin C. Tofel
@JA Castillo I saw a Twit that said software updater may not recognize the need for the new version if you're running a beta of iTunes. - RyanEs
@RyanEs - no beta...all the more confusing if what you say is true. - JA Castillo
@Kevin thanks. Totally wireless eReader would be awesome. - John Samuelson
Is the App Store only visible to those with iPhones or a Touch? I have updated to 7.7 and there is no link to the app store that I can see. - JA Castillo
@JA - go to prefs, General, make sure Applications is ticked. - John Samuelson
Jeremiah Owyang
Despite all the hubbub about Blogs 'killing' mainstream media in 2005-2006, most of today's top blogs resemble mainstream media or star columnists. I say that little has changed. Agree or Disagree?
I agree...the more we change the more we stay the same. I just think some bloggers are good at not having a political or money agenda which can taint the "realness" of the content. I like how Perez Hilton doesn't hold his tongue at all. - streetforce1
I would agree that some of the same problems exist in top blogs and top newspapers, there is a check and balance in blogging that works quicker than the newspaper system, but in general, you are spot on. - Andrew Hyde
Agree ... it takes a little more than a couple years to build the empires that have already been build ... probably isn't even possible - Nick O'Neill
Didn't it turn out to be Craigslist that has really hurt mainstream media? At least the newspapers. Also Google's growing dominance in advertising. It's not the journalism that's the issue, it's the revenue. - Todd McKinney
Jeremiah, you're ignoring the fact that many MSM outlets now embrace blogging as well. No one would argue that the two have merged at the top, but it wasn't all in one direction. - Duncan Riley
Thanks Jeremiah, I've been biting my tongue on this for a week or so now (i'm in the old trad media) now it seems like new media is the trad media which is being pushed aside by the new new media. - Jon Dillon
Agree. It seems even The Long Tail is losing some of its punch - http://valleywag.com/5020400... - Justin Gibbs
Agree. Just like TV killed cinema and radio, video/DVD killed TV, music downloads killed the music industry, and the internet changes everything. Each of these provides multiple different functions and experiences to different people in a variety of moods, roles and situations. The various markets will all settle to a new, if more transient, level. There will also be a home for pro versus amateur, more generalised versus niche versions. - Ronna Porter
Jeremiah, it's true that top blogs become media properties (albeit very niche ones), while (as Duncan said) MSM has been adopting blogs and other social media tools. So there's been movement both ways. I for one never brought into the 'blogs will kill MSM' hype, that's just nonsense. As everything, media has evolved very quickly with the Internet. So I disagree with you a bit there, because *a lot* has changed. - Richard
It's like how Dave Winer said there's no such thing as a pro-blogger. As far as I can tell the only difference between journalists and bloggers is that journalists are supposed to stick to a code of conduct. - Stuart Maxwell
They do resemble, but that does mean that are alike. For a start, "commenting" has transformed media into a two way conversation. Whereas "new media" vetures like businessspectator.com.au are like the mainstream media (a comment is treated like a letter to the editor, with my comments moderated because I disagreed with arguments) are a joke, other "new media" like Techcrunch and RWW are... more... - Elias Bizannes
I've said for the past year that it's becoming hard to differentiate "blogs" from other forms of online publishing. We're in big need of a vocabulary overhaul.FWIW, commenting in MSM is rarely two-way communication. It's a way for readers to vent and interact with each other, but MSM publishers and editors rarely get dirt under their fingernails. - Chris Baskind
Totally agree when you look at blogs like Mashable and TC - sometimes it is hard to sort the advertising from the posts. No offense guys - I know you have to make money - but there are more and more "sponsored posts" and "thanks to this weeks sponsors" etc.... - Dave Gray
a few things. first, sample error. mainstream media has maybe tens of thousands of writers creating columns for newspapers, magazines, journals, etc. the blogosphere has tens of millions. the degree of variation within the blogosphere is enormous. have you seen the recipe bloggers? mommy bloggers? and the children of the blog form, the facebooks and myspaces and tumblrs, are further... more... - Phil Wolff from Alert Thingy
disagree, my buying practices have definitely changed, I was a two newspaper in the morning and one in the evening guy, I really can't remember the last time I purchased one, I think mainstream media is here to stay but newspapers are definitely on the way out - Patphelan
If what you're saying is true, then does that mean the Long Tail of blogging isn't very fat? That the Short Snout still reigns? You might be right, but I'd like to know how things look like all along the curve, not just a few crowding the small head. Any numbers? - phil baumann
next, blogging is a conversational medium. some journalists get that, some don't, and many msm organizations never will. Reading other blogs, linking to them, listening to comments, leaving comments elsewhere, responding to your commenters: these are signs of 'getting it'. to the extent that you see content that looks like a blog post but lacks any connection to the conversation is a sign of damage. - Phil Wolff from Alert Thingy
agree - sam sethi
Last, I'd like to challenge you to put something that you care about but that's off topic in your blog. a poem that touched you. your cat. an opinion about something outside your stated beat. blogging should be about the blogger, otherwise it is reporting in blogging clothes. blogging is a personal and interpersonal medium, so your blog should have a bit of you within it. it's not just... more... - Phil Wolff from Alert Thingy
It is difficult to move to new modes of discourse. Making them technically feasible doesn't mean they will evolve. It's not just that blogs have replicated msm modes and mannerisms, but those that do not do so - the ones that offer some dislocation, some sense of estrangement, before yielding something special - get less visible as mirroring levels discursive difference. - tom matrullo
Blogs have given the sources a way to communicate directly without going through the media. There are far more sources of news now than there were ten years ago. "Killing" is almost always the wrong metaphor for competition, But our reliance on MSM today is much less than it was in the past. I don't see the "top blogs" as being blogs at all, they are MSM outlets that use the same CMS software as blogs do. That isn't saying much about them, imho.BTW Phil is right too. :-) - Dave Winer
media "killing" media rarely happens. We still have movies (some shot digitally), radio (sometimes streamed), television (sometimes on iPhone) , books (sometimes on Kindle). The universe gets more intricate with old and new media supporting, promoting, commenting, and competing. Movies became fodder for Lux Radio Theatre (which is currently still available by podcast). Ad budgets shift. Revenue streams divert. Physical formats become obsolete, but not the content, the audience or the conversation. - Michael Markman
I think the question misses the point. You're probably right that the "top blogs", whatever they are, resemble mainstream media, but _my_ top blogs give me much more what _I_ want to read than the mainstream media. - Michael C. Harris
They're not blogs anymore ... I counsel a lot of agencies and I'm telling many of them to view the big boys and girls as MS OnlineMedia: http://www.eyeballeconomy.com/2008... - David Weiner
Been some press lately about newspapers declining readership and predictions of the death of broadcast television. Let's look at some statistics, but IIRC the trend is DOWN. And where are people spending the time they save? blogs and youtube. You do the math. - Indio Apache from twhirl
Um. did the hubbub of blogs killing media end in 2006? As far as I can tell, blogs have never stopped proclaiming the death of traditional media by bloggers. They love to say that all the way up until some paper or magazine buys them. - felix
Is this not just mainstream media switching mediums. What is more interesting is the fringe stuff that would never have been published before. I think that a lot of people are now reading a bit wider range of content. Mainstream media always goes with the lowest common denominator to get maximum audience. - John Cooper
Mainstream media killed by blogs? No. Mainstream media fundamentally changed by blogs? Absolutely. *Every* major media outlet has a significant online presence featuring a large chunk of their content. Nearly all of them have integrated commenting/discussion, and many of them now have "Digg this"/"Share on Facebook"/etc. While it's not entirely a 2-way street w/outlets like CNN or the NYT, they are clearly being dragged toward interacting with their users, rather than simply broadcasting. - Pete Brown
Mainstream is intensifying -- cutting newsroom staff, consolidating newspaper chains, etc. -- in the scramble to keep profit margins up as mass media falls into a gazillion pieces. They are not making enough in the online world to keep the mainstream machinery running, and haven't really figured out the formula for online, social media yet. Blogs are one of the many economic challenges they face, as more and more people defect from mass media, and head for the edge, where we are doing it for ourselves. - Stowe Boyd
Thank you all, I have now collected my thoughts (much based on your comments here) and written this post and pointed back here http://www.web-strategist.com/blog... - Jeremiah Owyang
if you take the top bloggers/sites, and divide (actual) readership by staff count, it's pretty different from a newspaper... - Bill Seitz
Agree. - Robert Scoble
Agreed and its entirely changing the business model for news outlets - Robert
Agree - Brian Sullivan
Don't underestimate the effects of regression. Over time, the MSM will exert their advantages and become more dominant in the new medium (e.g., 5 of the top 20 Techmeme Leaderboard places are held by MSM entities), and the few independent voices with broad authority will evolve to be more like the MSM (e.g., TechCrunch adapting to the Washington Post). - Sprague D
I'm not quite sure if I agree or not, but I know I wouldn't really care if mainstream media died out or not. Also, there will always be some type of media that has more viewers/listeners/etc than the others, and thats the one we'll call mainstream. - The Kid
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