No, Mona - it's not a joke. There are people who actually BELIEVE they can release an app that looks like this on the iPhone and people will buy it. No way this company will EVER make it on the iPhone. No way in hell. You could have functionality out the wazoo in any application, there's no way I'm going to use it or recommend it to others - web-based, OS X, Windows, Linux... no way. - l0ckergn0me
wow.... i mean.. they have a gif of what is that, Palm V? Palm III? on their home page... and i bet their site is made from tables lol.. i'm embarrassed for them. maybe i'll write them an email - Mona N
"A leading provider of software solutions for the iPhone ..." - Chris Baskind
Yeah, Chris - if they're leading, who's falling behind?! - l0ckergn0me
Palm apps always look 10 years out of date ... - Patrick Jordan
@Invariant: it automates coin flippage, of course, and thus saves you a heck of a lot of time (especially for the uncoordinated who keep dropping their coin and have to pick it up). Sheesh. *Everyone* knows that.... ;-) ;-) @Everyone: So Palm still exists, eh? Go figure.... - Joanmarie
Chris this post = classic. Thank you SO much for this. I still can't get off the site - Mona N
Months later, Steven Creeks Software offers a premium package option to change the cyan background to magenta, yellow or black. - Michael Narciso
We shouldn't be so hard on them: cyan was, at one time, a very trendy programming color. Back in the Eighties or so. - Chris Baskind
I remember seeing their apps last week, linked by Gruber. Talk about horrible interface design. I guess folks go with what they know before learning what they should. - Scott Jarkoff
The summize results are hilarious. :-) - Joanmarie
My word. Haven't seen UI like since my highschool computing class- even then we were competeong for the ugliest UI. - Roberto Bonini
What am I missing here? The base is there, there's more content that even Calacanis had hoped for (he's written this), surely the scaling now is only servers etc. Guides aren't expensive, and it's opened up Wikipedia style anyway for even more content. - Duncan Riley
Duncan: Calacanis doesn't have a yacht like Ellison yet, that's what. - Jason Wehmhoener
He's making the Slide/Ning-style pitch for funding before it dries up. Luck to him. - Sprague D
Duncan: It's an entire economy run out of the hamster wheels in Mike Arrington's house. You were expecting logic? - jeneane sessum
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded... -- here's the video - the $50 million comment comes around the 16 minute mark - the video is worth watching - facebook, wikia search also present. (i think the last few minutes got cut off - the video froze) - Allen Stern
At what point do VC's actually ask for a revenue model and business plan? - Jason Carreira via twhirl
over five to seven years that's what it will take probably. of course, the large part of that will come from revenue. remember, we were spending millions of dollars a year building Weblogs, Inc. In fact, over five years at least 15m would have been invested in WIN. - Jason Calacanis
Jason Carreira, in JCal's defense, Mahalo has always been Weblogs Inc built on Mediawiki. It's a content play with ads, proven model...well as long as the Google traffic comes in for him. - Duncan Riley
jeneane, I better not go there...already in trouble today :-) Still, no logic at all. Cost of creating content is relatively cheap...unless he's got something else in mind - Duncan Riley
at least Duncan when I get in trouble I have a little fun:) - Fred Grott
If it's a proven revenue model, why do they need another $50 million? Shouldn't they be generating revenue by now? - Jason Carreira via twhirl
I really like the concept of Mahalo. My question is how what search market are you really targeting? If we talking about generic search(google) its keyword and they index bunch of garbage and present it to you. Then there is Nat lang search, where you are obviously search for meaning for stuff and they try o present you meaning full data. Where does Mahalo fit into this arena? - Akshay
I can understand Arrington and Scoble having public differences of opinion, but trying to cause conflict to generate traffic is just cheap. - Jonathan Beckett
hmm not aware of the conflict between Scoble and Michael Arrington - Fred Grott
Sounds like there is lot of lack of class going around here. Maybe some skullduggery and fraud as well? - Brian Sullivan
The internet is very serious business. Websites and their former employees are even more serious business. We should all be aware of this. - Candace Holly
I like jason's link but I don't agree with his commentary. Arrington declared war after all. - Alan Le
maybe this is just one example of something duncan didn't like that caused him to leave. if he produces a blue dress "dug" by MA, ima hurl. - Wolfsbayne
Right -- like the commenter said:"Duncan taking his final step off the bridge as he strikes a match which he flings over his shoulder...". p.s. clickmonkeys.com (mentioned in valleywag thread re. prevalence of digg gaming) is hiliariously brazen, like captchakiller.com - Rowan Price via twhirl
in the larger scheme of things - blogs were supposed to be different than old media, but it looks like the same bs is going on - rivalries, backdoor pimping of your own stuff, it's just sad. New media has become old media, the more things change the more they stay the same. - Jason Kaneshiro
Duncan does not appear to be attacking his former employer in that post. - Scott Jarkoff
all is fair in love, business and social media boosting - sean percival
note to calacanis: who asked you? LOL - Bwana McCall
It's a clever way of attacking. But it draws blog posts and attention. Sigh, what a world. - Ben Parr
I am really feeling something about Karma these days.... do to others as you wish to have done to you - Ian Nock via twhirl
OOooooo touched a nerve there Duncan! - Susan Beebe
Jason, I didn't "attack" anybody, I simply aksed, on my personal blog, that given that I was cut off, why they kept begging me for Diggs, a reasonable question. Point out exactly where I attacked anyone Jason? - Duncan Riley
I have no horse in this race but I do find it interesting that Jason attacks the whistleblower and not the person actually committing the "crime".( Hmmm. - chartreuse
I'm a bit surprised that TC is still implementing a Digg Army. It's not uncommon to have a group of folks who will Digg stories for you or your site. But it seems like a strategy for a up and coming site, not a well established one. Duncan himself did say that Arrington was one of the hardest working guys he's met. So ... perhaps Mike just isn't resting on his laurels - which isn't a bad thing. I do wonder whether Duncan asked to be removed prior to posting this shot. - AJ Kohn
ahem can we leave the high school lunch room yet? - Fred Grott
AJ, Michael told me never to email him again, so I couldn't asked to be removed. Writing a blog post was my only alternative to being spammed. - Duncan Riley
@Duncan: Understood and that does make (some) sense. I'm a fan Duncan and clearly don' t know all the ins and outs. But ... to be fair, could you have emailed Biggs or Ha direct? - AJ Kohn
Biggs had a hissy fit that I was at Macworld for TechCrunch, and I've never spoken to him since. Ha I don't know. Besides, they weren't sending the emails individually, it was a group email to diggthis@techcrunch.com - Duncan Riley
Duncan, you should be a politician the way you're trying to spin that post as a way to stop spam. :-P You definitely could have emailed another TC or CG writer and they would have passed the message on. You can't tell me you write about social networks and couldn't find one to contact someone on. - Shawn Farner
Shawn, I believe that ultimately they may have still wanted my Diggs, why else would I have been cut off from all the other email lists but not that one. But I'll note again: I didn't attack them in the post, I simply made an observation (calacanis links to Valleywag, not my post). Trust me, if I was going to attack them, this wouldn't be it. I've never been known for subtlety :-) - Duncan Riley
@Duncan: Makes sense. Me, I don't see a problem with the post. Sort of a don't do anything you wouldn't want to see in print type of scenario. Crowd-Digging isn't anything new. Hope you're off the diggthis list ;) - AJ Kohn
I appreciate Duncan's defense but personally I would just come out and say - I'm trying to make TC look like dicks. No one would blame you :) - Chris Ridenour
I'll put it this way - Duncan's the only guy from TC that ever treated me like I was a human from the time I started at Mashable on. After I signed on with Pete, someone at TC went thru and forensically removed all my comments from before I joined, removed references to my personal blog from CrunchGear (they blogged about me a couple times), and generally let us know at Mash thru the grapevine what they thought of us (it isn't very nice stuff)..... - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
... Duncan never participated in that foolishness, and I've always appreciated that. MA declared war first with Duncan, so if he wants to play the game, he can't be too upset when things like this crop up. In short, Duncan's been nothing but classy, in my book. I won't participate in this particular blogfite officially, but I will refute Jason's position that this is indicative of Duncan's class. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I know nothing about nothing, BUT it is usually not cool to air dirty laundry in public. TC could be
secret Nazis but it still doesn't look good to say that you can't email them or reveal company tactics. - Andrew Burd
Jason - do you consider what you are doing to DEMO attacks? Pot meet Kettle. - Mark Lepzig
Thx Mark. Andrew, honestly, I wrote a post the other day with my last thoughts on the matter and that was going to be the end of it, then I noticed one of my inboxes getting fuller as I was trying to clean them up (I have more email rules + boxes then friends on FF :-) ). I just like their hide though: slam me in private, then expect me to digg them. I'll give Michael credit, he has balls. Any further spam aside though, consider this my last on the matter. - Duncan Riley
If Scoble didn't fold like a disposable table cloth when Technigga came out, no one would think they could bully people into disavowing connections with 1938 Media. - Vinny
Scoble isn't a "go to bat for you kind of guy" and he certainly isn't a manager or whatever his title is at FastCompany. He's just Scoble a video guy. Now if he did indeed go about getting Feldman fired from PodTech, then that just makes him just a jerk. - Tony Kanzia
He's a piece of garbage who's over compensating for the fact that he had no friends in high school. - Vinny
Its not whether we agree or disagree but who is next tomorrow - Fred Grott
wow, this is interesting... gotta read this! - Susan Beebe
Not sure if this/he is racist or not but from all appearances Feldman is a bit of tool and deserves to lose this deal regardless. - Brian Sullivan
I've stated that the video itself is definitely racist and have refrained from labelling Loren himself. But I've been trying to find an apology and this is all I've found: http://www.1938media.com/offic... - Shey
it's sad that people choose to cast off a racist video like that as "comedy" or "satire" and instead attack those who who have a valid gripe with it as being too "pc." there's responsibility that goes along with having a forum such as that one. this clown shed all responsibility when he chose to make a mockery of an entire group of people. funny? what world are some of you living in? - Cee Bee
I put more faith in Corvida's judgment than in any of the other responses to this that I saw. She's a Verizon customer. She's part of the racial group that Loren was doing an alleged parody of. And I respect that it's up to her to determine just how offensive that is as part of those two groups. - Cyndy
While I am glad that Loren's behavior is being examined at the Corporate sponsor level, I feel that the industry (i.e. individuals in it) should resist jumping on his back, creating controversy and/or seeking to add to one's one fame/notoriety at the expense of another industry individual. That's not right. - Alex Hammer
Shey - I think I can label Loren. He's a jackass. I don't think he'd even argue it. - J. Phil
@Alex Did we create the controversy or was that Loren? Your logic seems a little backward. He brought this on himself. - Shey
Alex, you don't think that's a bit ironic considering that's how he's spent the last several months? Or was that tongue-in-cheek? I didn't see a winkie there. - Cyndy
Everyone should stand-up against all kinds of racism. Loren Feldman still has thousands of followers in Twitter and FriendFeed. Do something against racism and don’t follow him anymore. - Kerem Ozkan
I disagree with you Cordiva, I thinking the bigger problem which was debated last year is when is jokiiing about such subjects as racism correct or incorrect as we seem to have this unwritten rule that only the minority that is being poked fun at can do the joke.. Chris Rock's comedy skits are but one example. - Fred Grott
Wow -- what a complex subject if one is strongly against racism, strongly against political correctness and strongly for free speech simultaneously, as I am. My mind is going in every possible direction on this. I enjoy satire and parody when it is carefully targeted, and I detest vicious ethnic and racial stereotyping. I defend the right of jackasses to embarrass themselves and self-destruct. I deny their right to harm others. - Sean McBride
Fred, I can understand your stand here, but does that mean that you also like the stuff that Loren puts out, regardless of the ethical quandary? - J. Phil
J Phil does that mean that the racist gangster rap gets free pas on Verizon? - Fred Grott
My $.02: Loren exercised his right to post that video and now Corvida is exercising her right to express her strong feelings about it. I think that's exactly how it should work. Telling her to stay quiet about it makes about as much sense as telling Loren he didn't have the right to make the video in the first place. - Mike Doeff
Rap lyrics *always* get a free pass. That is a major double standard. I mentioned that back when Don Imus' firing was in debate and got shot down. - Morton Fox
Just in case anyone gets upset at Corvida's response - you might be interested in reading Loren's response to a stupid Guy K. remark in his post http://www.1938media.com/guy-k... (he wrote in the comments "Im so not sensitive about the jew thing, but this just smacked me in the face a bit" - leigh himel
All I can say is 'thank you.' That was a brave and motivated thing you did and I support it all the way. - Tsega D
My opinion anyway is Loren's right to post the video doesn't mean that he is free from the consequences of posting that video. We all too have the right to boycott, shun, or speak out in response. - Morton Fox
why are people bringing rap music into this argument as a way to level the debate? lol - Cee Bee
'm so glad that Corvida, in her usual, straightfoward and articulate way, spelled it out. If there was an equivalent to the n-word for white people that carried the same lacerating power, that would be easier. But there just isn't. "Blasting political correctness" is just the skinny tree that bad comedians of the world hide behind when they're aiming for satire and can't manage to get past crude or cruel. Loren might have been aiming FTW, but he failed. - Merredith Branscombe
@Fred Grott - It's not about the fact that he used the n-word. I know plenty of people that use it black/white/hispanic/ you name it. It's the way in which he went about degrading the African-American community. It was more than the words he used. It was the entire video. It was his looks. It was his actions. Saying the n-word doesn't get press like this if you're a true comedian. - Corvida
And Chris Rock doesn't get a free pass. Chris Rock does his comedy, but he doesn't degrade his community in the process. He points out truths and does so in a way that's not crossing the line because if he insults the African-American community, he's insulting himself simultaneously. Hispanic comedians to the same thing. Caucasian comedians do the same thing. They don't degrade, the state facts that either make people squirm or make people laugh. That's as far as it goes. - Corvida
.... if you want to push the envelope you've got to be prepared to get pushed back. That simple. - Jason Calacanis via Bookmarklet
Except that he didn't get pushed back, he got yanked because some loudmouthed "activists" were tipped off that a video he did a year ago wasn't appropriate. This wasn't some case of legitimate outrage, it's a shakedown on a mobile carrier without a pair of testicles. - Vinny
I wish I had the cash. I'd sponsor him in a second. - Vinny
I simply do not understand why people think it's Verizon's job to uphold this guy's right to free speech on their network. They are a damn cell-phone company for God's sake. - Rahsheen Porter
Pay attention, Rahsheen. The only reason they yanked the show is because they were strongarmed into doing so, not because they disagreed with the content. That's the egregious part. - Vinny
You'll pay top-dollar for the tenderloin of sacred cows. - Christopher Harley
No, they were yanked because someone brought the video to Verizon's attention. There was no strong arming. I promise you that Verizon did not review the video and then decide to sign the agreement. - Russell Holliman
No, they were yanked because a wanna be Farakhan and his nation of Islam clone decided it was offensive and threatened a boycott. That's strongarming. They threatened a boycott to get their whiny little way. - Vinny
wait reviewing a video that was never to air on their service in the first place? Sounds like back channel play to me - Fred Grott
@vinny those videos were over the top, and I agree with Jason, if you are willing to push the envelope, there's an implicit risk in that. I think the videos are right on the line if not over it myself, so I am not surprised at all with the decision. Just because Loren isn't risk averse doesn't mean Verizon shouldn't be. - Clay Newton
as was stated in a different thread, it sure doesn't take very long for people's true colors to show. we get it vinny, you don't like like loudmouth activist whiners. i'm sure they don't care for people like you in return. - Cee Bee
@clay: I wouldn't care about the decision if Verizon wasn't threatened into making it. - Vinny
@cee bee: What, exactly, are my true colors? Oh, I get it. I'm just a racist, right? - Vinny
What is really sad for me is that most of the reporting around this was wrong on facts - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
i wrote about offensive content aligned with brands - in my case i used facebook's ads. imagine an ad where you're asked if you "wanna bang cindy mccain?" or even worse, michelle obama. http://is.gd/NCr - brands have to be careful to police this sort of thing. an offensive ad or a video aligned with a corporate brand can be a bad thing. so, if you use the word "nigger", or variations of it, and you're not a black person, you'll get attacked by pc america. we're not surprised here, right? - Wolfsbayne
nah, i'm not labeling you as racist, because you haven't said anything outright to earn that label yet, but you do seem to take offense with people who have an earnest gripe over this situation by casting them off as "loudmouth activists" or whiny reactionaries. i don't believe you get the message if you think they're the only ones who can possibly be offended by such a video. - Cee Bee
Except that I didn't say that. I'm specifically talking about the organization that put the pressure on Verizon. That's it. Period. There's no message to get. They live on being outraged and strongarmed Verizon. This isn't about people being offended, it's about pandering to groups like them so as to not make people feel bad. - Vinny
oh so the video made by that clown has nothing to do with people being offended? all that is beside the point and inconsequential? if it wasn't for groups such as that one speaking out on behalf of others, i doubt much would have been brought to light because those individuals who would have and do complain are and will also be viewed as nothing more than "loudmouths" and "pc" bullies. - Cee Bee
I have two things to say about the N word. 1, It has power because we let it offend us. Otherwise it's just air passing the lips. 2, There are words just as hurtful and hateful that we use all the time and the general public is ok with in terms of comedy and commentary. One specific example would be fat-a$$. Words like these crush just as many people, only overweight people don't have groups like the NAACP or NOW to take up their cause. - Brian Norwood
At what point can we get away from the strawman defense? If someone or organization is behind this... who? - Evo Terra via twhirl
Vinny, Verizon is a business and if they don't feel like paying some guy to distribute his content, that's their choice. End of story. - Eric Eldon
Eric, you like many others have beaten that quote into the ground. No shit sherlock. Verizon is a business. As hard as that is to comprehend and even though you took all your brain cells to work it out, I figured it out too. The problem is that Verizon didn't have a problem with Feldman, and the offending clips were never part of Vcast to begin with. Verizon was perfectly happy until they started getting organized threats from Mr. "I wanna be Farakhan." They were strongarmed into it. - Vinny
Vinny, why don't you go organize your own protest that encourages Verizon to be less influenced by people you disagree with? If Verizon can be convinced that growing a spine is worth it, after all, they will. I'm also curious why you're so angry about this particular issue. Seems like you have some deep-seated issues here, judging by the torrent of vitriol coming out of you. - Eric Eldon
Vinny, judging from your Twitter feed, this isn't just about you defending your friend. I also don't get why you're insulting me. I'm pretty sure we don't know each other at all. - Eric Eldon
Vinny disagrees = vitriol ; Others agree = PC enlightenment - William, CPU Media
Look guys, I have a thick skin so I don't really care what you try to label me as, but I do like understanding what the issues actually are. From the start of this whole thing, all I've said is that Verizon was well within its rights to yank Feldman, if that's what they want to do. I can be convinced otherwise -- I'll totally defend Feldman's rights to publish whatever he wants on his own blog. - Eric Eldon
“Technical Evangelist (on Robert Scoble's Wikipedia, I just googled the man today)... um, why does that scare me? And what did I get myself into joining FF? Is this like um a cult?”
Welcome to the Louis Gray cult. I first rebelled against it, but now the outside world seems weird. But technical evangelist was my title at Microsoft. Google calls those people "developer advocates" or "technology advocates." I like that term better cause it doesn't have a religious connotation. - Robert Scoble
Do we get hats or laptop stickers for joining? Anything? - Chris Baskind
I'm handing out FriendFeed stickers at lunch tomorrow in Bellevue, WA. You're welcome to come! - Robert Scoble
I'd like some laptop stickers. Once whoever the grand pooba is get's them printed let me know. - Jason Shultz via twhirl
I agree with scoble, Evangelist makes me think of some Southern Baptist Preacher spreading fire and brimstone on a hot summer night. - Jason Shultz via twhirl
@Scoble: Is the legal connotation better than the religious one? - Yuvi
Mona, also don't forget to check out blamescoble.com and lolscoble.com. LOL - Hao Chen
and that Louis Gray Facts FF room. LOL I'd post the room link but I'm iphoning it right now - Hao Chen
This is too much information for my little pea brain..... =\ - Mona N
it's actually lolscobles.com. Slightly disturbing at times. - klecu
When I started neglecting FaceBook and Twitter, I became one with my addiction.. but now that I'm learning the politics, I'm kinda scared ;) - Mona N
@Mona: Politics - You are joking, right? :P - Yuvi
Everyone sees politics when there aren't any. It's what YOU make it. - Charlie Anzman
More like the Godfather-esque org chart HA - Mona N
But I *DO* have MAJOR braggage points! The Godfathers <--note plural (RS and LG) subscribed to me tonight. EF YA - Mona N
Heh. Had a great response from one comment a month ago about the difference between an early adopter, an evangelist and an a-lister. Tech passion. Tech passion with a paycheck. Tech passion with prestige. - Robert Sanzalone
This will sound weird but I tried some bacon flavored chocolate a couple of weeks ago and it actually tasted very good. Gave it sort of a smoky taste. - Mike Doeff
Over the past few years I see a lot of unexpected foods and spices incorporated into chocolates so I wouldn't be surprised. Where did you get the bacon chocolate? I'd be interested in trying it! - Mona N
Mona, I'm forgetting who made the chocolate but we bought it at Whole Foods - Mike Doeff
"Flying chocolate pigs, dressed in what else but…bacon. This flying chocolate pig is filled with applewood smoked bacon, Alder wood smoked salt and deep milk chocolate." Yum! http://www.vosgeschocolate.com... - Lisa L. Seifert
that sounds really great... did you make that?? - Caroline via twhirl
Simply put, I think it's because we already believe in something real and tangible, we know that there are physical explanations for the world around us, and so we don't need to seek our belief and our explanations from an intangible source. - Slippy Lane
I think it's actually more because geeks are smart and thorough enough to see through the religious facade, then as a knee-jerk reaction to the lies and fallacies they reject religion entirely, or change focus to a more spiritual, earth-based, morality based, or self-improvement based set of beliefs. Some also differentiate their morals from their beliefs. Some of the smartest geeks the world has ever known have become atheists only later to morph to agnostic or form their own anonymous beliefs. - xero
I think that the article was a little biased in the fact that the authors neglected to consider "spiritual geeks". Which by their definition of "Geek" definitely exist. They just tend not to be identified as such. and tend to be less interested in using the Internet, and taking polls then the more Technically minded variety of geek. - Freemor
@Freemor, you're right. It's language is biased, it is talking about those who reject the traditional religions, but makes no mention of the alternatives. It even references Einstein and Darwin as being atheist, neither of which were "true" atheists. - xero
Xero you make an error often when people reject formal religions for atheism their language contexts take a while to change and we often fall back into using them..from personal exp of moving from Catholic to atheism..for example I still catch myself attempting to use OMG and etc - Fred Grott
@Fred, yeah, that's true. I have several pagan friends who went through the conscious phase of changing their "oh my god" to "oh my gods" and "by the gods". I was more referring to the article never fully articulating what they meant by religion. Instead one must assume from context that they actually mean standard organized religion. I'm guessing the authors have never had basic training for philosophical writing. There is a forum thread linked to it, maybe there is more there. - xero
Just once I'd like to see a media outlet (including radio or television) stand up to "activists" and tell them to just fuck off and do their stupid protest. Instead, they hear the word protest, and no matter how little the complainers can do, they panic and submit. Cowards. - Vinny
Ridiculous. I've seen very similar type comedic bits and worse on Saturday Night Live, MadTV and Howard Stern. Loren joins the ranks of stars like Ashanti, R. Kelly and Paris Hilton, who've been protested by Project Islamic Hope. These are the thanks you get when you try to bring edgy, new media content to companies like CNet and Verizon. - Rob Safuto
I'm sorry, but the clip they showed on KNBC wasn't the most forward thinking piece. Ho-Trackr? You've got to be kidding. There are plenty of funny ways to address race and the Internet, but this isn't one of them. - blackmailismylife
I love that Arrington is suggesting that Israel or Winer might be behind this. Weren't their conspiracy theories a laugh? - blackmailismylife
Forward-thinking? You're a fucking idiot because only fucking idiots use terms like "forward-thinking." Usually fucking idiots that are grossly self-important. - Vinny
I am so sick and tired of all the Political Correctness bs in this country. It makes me sick that Verizon would cave to a bunch of people with too much time on their hands and no jobs over a video from a year ago. - Tony Kanzia
It amuses me no end that all the gangsta rap on the VCast music store is staying put, but Loren's shit is off. Verizon is a bunch of hypocrites and I will no longer do business with them. Period. - Vinny
@Vincent Ferrari I thought idiots were people who spazzed out on the Internet over stuff like this. I guess it's impossible to think that Loren's video could be considered objectionable by anyone, even though he himself admitted that it may have been a bit over the top. - blackmailismylife
You weren't talking about that, shit for brains. You were talking about it being forward-thinking. - Vinny
There's a huge double standard in society that's been going on for years. Little guys make easy prey for media opportunists. I went to a Catholic University that committed the sin of calling our basketball team the Red Men. Protests by "activist groups" forced the University to change the name to Red Storm. Meanwhile, the Atlanta Braves, Chicago BlackHawks and many other pro sports teams escape scrutiny due to their much superior financial means which allows them to fight threats of frivolous legal action. - Rob Safuto
now now we need both pseudonyms and spastics for that web 2 hype machine :) - Fred Grott
Vinny, you must be the bravest man on the Internet. May you crush the vengeful PC scourge that has so wronged you this morning. - blackmailismylife
harsh. Do advertisers avoid Comedy Central for the stuff that South Park do? (http://www.southparkstudios.co...) - Possibly. It's their prerogative. One man's comedy is another man's offence. - kosso
In this case, political correctness seems to be a euphemism for cowardice. - Donna Mugavero
Oh no! Not a boycott! Save us! Please, don't hurt anyone's feelings! I hate Verizon more than I hate the rabble rousing pieces of crap that got this thing done. - Vinny
Other than my social media experiment on FF yesterday getting over 200 comments in various threads..nothing - Fred Grott
Fred - Im sorry I dont know of your experiment. Sounds really fucking fascinating though. Wow 200 comments, did you win a prize or something. - loren Feldman
@loren it was the story about Mahalo being purchased by Microsoft - Joe Dawson
yes sort of got a prize as in knowing how are sheep and who are not - Fred Grott
Hope you got to cash at least one check from those dupes. - sean percival
No one ever listens to me (because I'm invisible!). Ferd is a troll. He spent YEARS annoying the crap out of the Java development folks and moved on to Web 2.0 for some insane reason. Valleywag was smart enough to ban him. - Cyndy
I think some of the other comments about this hit the nail on the head - any kind of "karma" he had has now gone... - Jonathan Beckett
Cyndy you still do not know what you are talking about at least spell the name right. The experiment was ot see how hype and herding worked on FF. - Fred Grott
Ferd, I spell it exactly like you do 8/10 times. And give me a break. You've been trolling for YEARS. It was about getting attention, not "an experiment." I will never understand your deep-seated need to be villified, but congrats, you've done it again. - Cyndy
Interesting I don't see Robert Scoble on your list, nor do I see several other very 'noisy' people. Was wondering how you have avoided having them show up on your stats page? - Jeff P. Henderson
Thanks for the list. Will follow them for a while to see if they are worth it. - Ansgar Wollnik
36 'likes' on the original article, 5 'likes' on Louis Gray's 'bookmarked on del.ico.us', shouldn't friendfeed offer a combined 'like' view or variant? Your opinion? - ingo ju
Ansgar: Yep, they're worth it - all 10 are keepers!! - Susan Beebe
I have been wondering recently if and when FF will open up some statistical data - not just on follower numbers, but on rate of change perhaps. - Jonathan Beckett
I have them all as friends that I follow. I would add Corvida to the list as well. - (jeff)isageek
Yes, I second add Cordiva to the list - Fred Grott
Louis, for Friday: How to tell who REALLY wrote the post. Because you are taking credit for EVERYONE!!! - Cyndy
@Cyndy and @Louis - I love the "Show Domains" Greasemonkey script from FFApps. It shows the link's domain out beside every link. So as I scroll down FF I can always tell where the article came from. Link -http://www.ffapps.com/showdoma... - Franklin Pettit
Thanks everyone. Jeff I do agree, Corvida should be on that list. I need to stalk her more on Friendfeed :) I think I might expand on that list at some point, and maybe do a post on 50 people one should follow on FF. - Mike Fruchter
Mike: Oh I like that idea... please do the 50 people to follow list! - Susan Beebe
@Cyndy, it's funny, but I had actually thought about that. It is becoming a recurring theme. - Louis Gray
the pattern of http://www.fastcompany.tv/work... in general seems to be "here's the guest, but lets talk crap for a couple minutes first". from a marketing perspective who ARE SAP after with this sponsorship ? - martin english
A good counter-example is BMW's sponsoring TED Talks. - Ole Begemann
Martin: SAP is after small and medium businesses. The "let's talk for a couple minutes first" format is going to change, though. David Allen will be on next week, and he's very influential in the markets they want to reach. - Robert Scoble
But SAP is for heavy industries, very powerful and expensive, we had SAP for "poor people" MS Navision, but still expensive (hours and hours of consulting work to customize it to every client). - Mário Pires
Mario: most of SAP's growth comes from small and medium sized businesses. This is a show about how the Internet is changing how work is done. Fits right into what kind of market they are trying to reach. - Robert Scoble
SAP's model of over pricing and under delivering will never work in the SMB market. Frankly, it's only because of the state of enterprise IT that they've been able to exist at that level. SMB won't have the patience to put up with it. - Kevin Cearns
Robert, if I was attempting to reach a new market that I am just getting into as a company would not the first 3 sentences in a video show be abut my firm and how it can serve that market? - Fred Grott
Ole and Fred: fair enough. We've been at this a month and are still trying to figure out what works. Thanks for the feedback. Luckily we have a sponsor who is willing to help us get started and see if we can make a quality show and get an audience that'll be loyal. So far we're ahead of the market in doing a show about the future of work, and we'll work to get the quality up. - Robert Scoble
I find it quite good that SAP is sponsoring WorkFast.TV! There certainly is a fit as SAP is moving towards Web 2.0 (and Enterprise 2.0). Of course showing silly cups with huge logos on them is not very creative. What about a person from SAP joining the conversation on the set? That would be really 2.0... - Matthias Schwenk
Fred: keep watching, we'll improve both the show's content and SAP's presence on the show. - Robert Scoble
Robert, i was not aware of that, probably because in here just big enterprises use it. - Mário Pires
Lets see, first 3 sentences: SAP provides software that helps both large and small businesses manage and innovate their business and supply relationships to lower costs and bring more services to their business relationship partners...obviously it has to be jazzed up advertising wise but that is a start - Fred Grott
"We'll improve both the show's content blah blah blah blah." You would think that improvements would've come already after you showed your buddy the door for his shit GNTV. Now you're doing this workfast bomb and it's unwatchable, forced, and fake (and btw, the off-the-rack suit and stickered laptop make you look like an idiot) and NOW you're saying it's going to get better? What, is Shel gonna suddenly get camera presence and you stop cackling like a retard? - Vinny
I love Shel's cue cards. He's constantly looking down at them before speaking. - Rob Safuto
@Robert: I'm all for giving people a chance and I'm all for trying new things but that show was unwatchable. As a blogger with close ties to SAP, it was embarrassing. If you want to know where SAP growth comes from, read the 10K-Qs. It's dangerous to talk about people influential an any market. There are MANY influence points. - Dennis Howlett via twhirl
This might be one area where MSM could actually help out consulting. Hard to utter that, but true I think. - phil baumann
Robert, keep cranking away and focus on incremental improvement. - Mike Doeff
"You know what, you're right -- Loren has the right to say whatever the heck he wasn't about whomever he wants. But he also owns the right to accept the consequences of his actions. Some may argue the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but that's the risk you take when you act before you think.
Karma." - Shey
Matthew mad comments on freedom of speech which I agree on. However corporations are not about freedom of speech, rather maximizing profits. Obviously they don't feel he's funny enough. Funny how often there are sacrifices needed in pursuit of income. Most things have a way of working themselves out. - Mark Forman
Kind of ironic since Loren has berated many he's joked about(ridiculed) for being amateurs. Now he seems to has scared away the very professionals that could have vindicated him. Mr. Google has such a long memory too. Even on silly little echo chamber memes. - Mark Forman
I would like to point out that we do have what appear racists comments in comedy, ever look at Chris Rock's act lately? Here again we have the same debate that was last year in that is it suddenly racist if a non minority tells the exact same comedy? - Fred Grott
I would also like to point out that reverse racism doesn't exist. Discrimination, yes Racism NO. - Shey
These are some great tips, Steve. I'm thinking of banning myself from using FF inside work hours (especially after lunch). There are so many things I find very interesting, and that can eat away at my working day. - Chris Nixon
Great post Steve! Along the lines of tracking your online time: I was using Wakoopa, but it became pointless during my client application boycott. Was telling me that I was using Firefox 99% of the time, which I already knew. Check out MeeTimer: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-... - Kevin C. Tofel
Great post - if only I had the will power to ask the tough question...but I'm afraid the answer would be, "Stop reading and get to work!!" - George Smith
These are really nice hacks, must be very useful when social media is part of one's job - unfortunately hardly when social media IS one's job. I am actually afraid of even attempting to track my social media activities on a calendar as I'm sure the results will be terrifying and I'll have to figure out what I will do once FriendFeed and Twitter are both down :) - Svetlana Gladkova
Congrats Steve on the guest post on Lifehacker... neat! - Susan Beebe
Technorati was your favorite productivity tool, why don't you mention it anymore? - paul mooney
I agree with setting time for social media. I check FF, Twitter and Feedly with my morning coffee, lunch time and then after 5. Congrats on the post! - Jill Howard Allen
