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Yes, it is in fact pictures of people next to what they typed. It also looks like Facebook, Disqus, Jaiku, and pretty much every other service with, you know, people who type stuff. - Ken Sheppardson

everyone wants to look the same, now Twitter, Friendfeed and Facebook have basically the exact same interface - Lou Paglia

I love you, Kshep. You call a spade a spade - Francine Hardaway

Liking Ken's comment... well in my head anyway - Daniel J. Pritchett

FACEBOOK - Shey, Jamaican of FF

What do you think about the new Friendfeed User Interface? Check this Poll: http://is.gd/r1DI - Yaron Orenstein

Like it a lot more. - Trevor

It's so very gray. Like NYC today. - Liz Colville

technically it should be half butter pecan and half chocolate. - Karim

Yes Pe-Can! - Aaron deMello

Aaron: that's funny. - Rae21

oi vay, this must get at least 100 comments; carries some weight given your FF rock star status as you note; you're obviously not expecting an Xmas present from your FF buddies this year, looking forward to seeing their retort... - Bob Sonin

the problem with twitter is that it's an addiction. Just when I think that I am out, it pulls me back in. It's the simplicity. I primarily use FF, but twitter fills in the gaps. There is a place for both, but more people should jump into FF. Although my wife is still unsure of twitter, so I have my work cut out for me. How bout that post Robert? "10 reasons why email/SMS is for you and twitter is not." :-) - Bob Blunk

The complexity is what gets me, but really only between Friend Feed and Twitter. There's a feature to autopost to twitter here on ff, and I turned it on and forgot. All of a sudden I've got like a million tweets about my last.fm and google reader stuff. Not to mention that a post direct to twitter went circular. - adam garrett

hilarious! - Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)

I just spent a little time watching your real-time feed. Clearly, I cannot follow anywhere near as many people as you do. I get lost in the flood of data. - DGentry

Because, of course, more features makes a service better. Right? ;-) - Brent Newhall

I loved this line: "You can’t handle that, which is why Twitter is for you. Any service that has a tutorial on how to use a feature is just not for you." - Daniel J. Pritchett

HA! Great reading, Scoble. I lol'ed. Seriously, I did. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

my fave "d. You can “Comment” on an item. Here’s my comments. More than 6,000 of them. You really don’t want that kind of distraction. You might have to participate and that wouldn’t be good." - ernie yacub

6. How to DM on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/e... otherwise, good post. Funny. - ·[▪_▪]·

Scoble already stated in a previous post that DM'ing sucks, anyway. I don't think a service is going to implement full email-like features when that's not even the point of the service. People can just use email or IM. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

lol - David Cook

My point wasn't about the merits of DMing, just that it's possible in friendfeed, but it's the friendfeed way. - ·[▪_▪]·

I love this ... where's Dave Winer? hahahaha! - Susan Beebe

It took me a second but good read Schoble. - Nation Hahn

It slays me when people say Friendfeed is more complicated than Twitter. Investing maybe half an hour in setting up Friendfeed *the way I like it* made it highly usable and simple for me. There is nothing I can do to Twitter to make it useful for me except investigate third-party apps and I don't have the patience for that. - Laura Norvig

I like how twitter reminds me of birds tweet tweet #11 - sofarsoShawn

I can't help but love this post, but I do still tend to agree with some others that Robert is a tad too belittling at times. Most of the time I'd just say "man the f*ck up," but in this case it's actually a little confusing as to why Robert is so condescending at points. - Tyler Hayes from twhirl

Funny sarcastic post. Gets the point across. Note: in that tutorial, please explain what a 'meme' is b/c it took me 2-3 weeks to figure that out. (**I have no problems admitting my huge learning curve!!**) - Amani

Those are all good reasons, largely narrowing down to Twitter is >SHOCK< simpler than FF. Which is excellent. They both rock for their own reasons. - Clay Newton

#11 FriendFeed won't let you change your background image. You love that on Twitter you can put links to your blog, linkedin, etc., in an image instead of tempting them to navigate to there with a real link or distracting them with your superfluous activity from those places. - Daniel Sims

These are all good reasons... but still. I have met many people that just don't get Twitter. They shout out in space and wait for people to hear them.. - noone does... after a few days/weeks they think its lame and leave never to return. As soon as you understand RSS, Friendfeed its all simple... but the main reason I vote for FF mainstream attraction is the threaded conversations. Everyone can enter "Best of day" and instantly be part of a conversation with others without feeling as an outsider. - Peter Efland

Summing up.... the tech aspect of FF might be more tricky, but I think the social aspect is easier to get for newbies. - Peter Efland

So much sarcasm bundled up into one post. Gotta love it. "...why Twitter is for you and FF isn't" http://is.gd/aFOl (via @scobleizer) - Chinkerfly

Do you agree with Robert that FriendFeed is way too complicated for most social media users? ;-) - Ben Watson from twhirl

FriendFeed has layer upon layer of usefulness. I've been using it a *lot* for the last few months and I still learn new things now and then. Once people start using FF there's often an 'a ha!' moment and then things pick up. - Daniel J. Pritchett

That's just the reason why FF is for me and not Twitter - Uwe Schwarz

I don't actually get Twitter, I use it,but only to simultaneously feed into FB and FF.. (espcially wihen I'm mobile). I rarely hit the site to read since the ppl that I want to follow also feed into FB which I find much more my cup o tea. - Kelly W.

I still like using both... FF is my place you can find and read everything and twitter is more like a notification service of my online and other activities. - tomit

Alright, I laughed : ) but I'm not sure this was such a great idea. - Jeremy

Truer words have never been spoken. People join socnets, then proceed to tell people in the "social" realm how to behave. Control issues abound. I guess if people put things up that distract from the face time of the important folks, The important folks get nervous. - Eban Crawford

Well said. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

can't stand the crying. agreed - Cee Bee

Personally, I think the people who constantly bitch about it look like idiots. Learn how to use FF and adapt it to your personal needs or just say buh bye. When the noise from my TV or radio becomes bothersome, I turn it off. - Trish R

Please hold while this thread vanishes in a puff of logic! - Daniel J. Pritchett

Whoops -- a bit of a paradox here. :) Think about it. - Sean McBride

The only time something bugs me is when I bring up FF at work and there's a giant very, very NSFW photo on the main feed. :/ Other than that, I'm loving that hide button! - Rochelle

I openly use FF at work!! I agree one must not shift the responsibility of one's choices on FF. Well put, Chris. - Hayk H.

Rochelle, I agree, the pictures are sometimes a shocker when it pops up and I'm not expecting it. - Trish R

You get it, Daniel J. Pritchett. :) If this thread doesn't peg your illogic meter, nothing will. :) - Sean McBride

post to FriendFeed Feedback room asking for a way to option linked photos as NSFW? I;m not sure how that would work with imported Flickr pics, but it would help with uploaded photos.. just an idea (That way you could set in your personal options to to display NSFW photos from 8-5 or something like that) - JSNFLMNG

I agree with the sentiment expressed in the OP, I just found this whole thing funny. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Well said Chris!! - Kol Tregaskes

i'm beginning to think the people whining about "noise" or what's appropriate, are just mad when their oh-so-clever post doesn't get comments. - Admiral Anika

on that note faboo, everyone check out my feed: http://friendfeed.com/ultrasu... - Cee Bee

Some people love to hear themselves talk. *blah blah blah* :P - Molly, "sorry"

power to the people! - Dobromir Hadzhiev

this++ - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

++++Daniel & Sean, someone complaining about ppl complaining ;) - and yet I still agree with Chris.. logic schmogic :) - Kim from NoiseRiver

oh, totally. noise is a relative term. - Sarah Perez

AMEN! - Helen Sventitsky

+1 @chris... although, when you think of it, your comment about hating comments that lament what constitutes an 'appropriate post' is effectively just the same thing, no? you're post is just bitching about people bitching about posts...but it's still, er, bitching... but not bitchin', which is cool, dude! lolz - .LAG liked that

well said, Chris. - Carmen - Happy 2010!

You realize the last guy to post about Noise follows 3,500 people? That whole bit kinda baffles me. - Marko Bon

I'm not apologizing for the irony underlying my post, even if it seems to have irritated a couple of folks. ;-) - Chris Baskind

here here. - Chieze Okoye

Get off my lawn! - Alex Scoble

I'm writing a Letter! - Johnny Worthington

Are you sure this is the place to complain about FriendFeed? ;) - Soulhuntre from twhirl

lolz! i'm with you @chris: people should just learn how to use the filtering tools. that being said, FF could improve said tools vastly, methinks. we can hope. - .LAG liked that

Excellent post Chris. Sweet, to the point, and my thoughts exactly. That being said, I hope you can agree that there is a bit of a learning curve with getting the tools of Friendfeed here to work for you instead of against you. I enjoy the hell out of this service, but I've read dozens of blog posts from people that know what the hell they're doing and have given tips on how to make this service manageable and more fun. You have to make the experience here work for you. - Pete Delucchi

right on Chris! FF is like TV - change the channel if you don't like what YOU are watching - Susan Beebe

Robert where are you posting this that your getting such low quality resumes? - Uncle CW™

What's the offer about? - directeur from NoiseRiver

Robert, granted I'm coming in late here, have you thought of maybe hiring an intern from a journalism class? - Uncle CW™

Christopher: Craig's List. It's because it's an administration job. That attracts a group that isn't quite computer savvy or that thinks about how to get attention. Plus, there are a lot of them that are sending attachments and such. - Robert Scoble

I've told friends who own IT Companies that when they advertise for techs on Craigslist they get what they paid for. Any local friends that have a word of mouth person to suggest? - Uncle CW™

Huh? Are attachments now entirely evil? Should CVs be sent in email bodies? I'm not sure I would think that a good idea. I feel the "reading through stacks of piss-poor CVs pain tho). - mattpovey

Christopher: yeah, I'm considering some interns from journalism classes and will be looking for others. - Robert Scoble

I think most people prefer PDF attachments for sending out resumes. I certainly send mine out that way so I can control what it looks like. The cover-letter is actually the more important part sometimes. - Andrew Feinberg

Robert, I think thats a great idea. Hope it works out. - Uncle CW™

Lots of companies are asking for Word Docs. They enter them in their local HR application that index's the information so its search able at that time. - Uncle CW™

I am fully qualified to delete emails en masse (including the ones from b.obama@gmail.com agreeing to your request for an interview). If telecommuting is on the table I'll start Monday, thanks. - Geoff Schultz

Christopher: why can't companies parse emails? Heck, they should look into what http://www.tripit.com can do with emails (you forward your flight emails to Tripit and it does amazing things with them). - Robert Scoble

The companies I know are really hesitant to change and either one have already spent their money on some expensive custom HR app or are stuck in the package they already bought and don't want to change. Change is bad. - Uncle CW™

I also want to say I don't think the IT depts at these companies are keeping up to date with the latest information or technology. Many of my fellow techs don't have jobs where the companies pay for training or give paid time off for classes. IT is seen as a overhead and to be cut as much as possible. It was refreshing to interview at a company that had a minimum of 2k for training with paid week off to do that training. No Certs necessary that come out of it. - Uncle CW™

You should accept LinkedIn profiles only so you have a standard format to go by - Jesse Stay

You know, that's a great idea for a startup, Robert. Something like tripit where you could send off a resume in email, it could parse it and identify sematic trends (PHP, Javascript, filing, Chinese cooking, etc.) and then allow a much more precise search by employers. You could sell the service to other job-hunting websites, or just set up a competitor. - Mistletoe Glen

Here's the post: http://scobleizer.com/2008... - Robert Scoble

GREAT post Robert. I'm horrified by the resumes I receive. I usually post with specific directions on how to apply. That usually screens out 80% of them since they ... don't follow directions. The research and customization is what help them stand out to me. Show me you didn't just cookie-cutter this application. - AJ Kohn

My first post-collegiate boss also had an interesting technique. He only looked at the first page of any resume. Any subsequent pages went into the trash. It was an ad agency and he simply believed that if you couldn't sell yourself in one page ... he didn't need to see any more. - AJ Kohn

AJ: true. In journalism school we were taught to only keep our resumes to one page. If one page is good enough for a Pulitzer prize winning journalist, it's good enough for everyone else. - Robert Scoble

Great post. Some nice advice. - Roberto Bonini

i'm not sure why people tell their stories with resumes any more...unless the audience you're sending them to is stuck in the pre-internet past...maybe a bank? - Michael

Question: Is linkedin a substitute for a resume? - Roberto Bonini

Roberto, I think LinkedIn is even better than a resume - it gives you recommendations, more detail, and an ongoing history of the individual. - Jesse Stay

i haven't updated my resume since i joined linkedin. i refer all recruiters to my linkedin page. - cjmart

comment on your word 2007 bullet point, did you specify the versions of word the person needs to be familiar with? did you specify you should send your resume in .doc format? also are you saying your administrative assistant shouldn't know and understand word 2007? - Jonathan Jesse

Jonathan: no. But you should never send a document in the latest format. Someone might not be able to open it if you do. - Robert Scoble

Robert, any chance you are looking for an editor? :-) - Holger Eilhard

Very nice post! Bit of a wakeup call for all those complaining they cant get a job. - Gerard van Schip

Going to take these tips into deep consideration when revamping my resume. Need to start firing it out soon. :) - Shawn Farner

AJ & Robert: That is also the way that I was taught that I resume should be. One page in length. - Mathew A. Koeneker

I find craigslist to be very hit or miss on the job seeker side as well. Many times the jobs postings are filled with poor grammar and little information about the opportunity. Employers could use some of the same advice. - Sally: in Florida

I'm wondering what the adoption of Word 2007 is out there then? Every client that I have worked with in the last 3 months has already deployed Office 2007. In fact I am receiving Office 2007 docs from some large customers (Fortune 500). Would a Word 2007 doc be better or worse then sending an ODF or somehow sending a link to a Google Doc? - Jonathan Jesse

@Jonathan, our office has deployed Word 2007 but in our department we all set our defaults to save our docs as .doc instead of .docx . Too many of the people we work with don't have Word 2007 and it's just an irritant to negotiate that. The whole thing is just yet another Microsoft headache IMO. - Laura Norvig

Yeah, it's really hard for people to install a quick little patch to let older versions handle the new files. (!) - Jordan Hofker

Did they give you a free sample? - Louis Gray

Louis: nope, but they are bringing back the "buy two, gift one" program in November. I'll get one then. - Robert Scoble

Do you need advice on where to go eat in Cambridge? - stretta from twhirl

Mine is collecting dust. Need to check the updates. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Home - Rodfather

Matthew: would love some suggestions. Probably will head shortly to Berkman for a book event there. - Robert Scoble

Well, you're in my zip code. Actually, I work in Harvard Sqaure. There are tons of great places to eat in Harvard Square. - stretta from twhirl

This is my primary hangout http://www.daedalusharvardsquare.com/ - stretta from twhirl

If budget isn't a consideration http://www.upstairsonthesquare.com/ - stretta from twhirl

Pizza isn't exciting by this place is very, very good. http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston... - stretta from twhirl

FriendFeed is becoming my top choice for both following people and getting into discussions on important (and some non-important) issues. I now catch tweets, links and blog posts I missed elsewhere on FF. I'll be watching Intense Debate carefully—the WP network is a strong influence. - Cathryn Hrudicka

Shawn - gonna be tough for Disqus, I think. WP network effect will be strong. - Hutch Carpenter

Just got the email. This is pretty cool news, I've been wondering how things would work out in the balance between Disqus and Intense Debate. I guess this is a pretty big coup for Intense Debate. Kudos and grats to them! - Stu Andrews

Now I've seen everything. - Steven Perez

He is a tool, he defended the right for so long, now that they are losing ground he is jumping on the left bandwagon. he has to keep his job right... - orionstarr

There's going to be some hard core left wing radicals who will still believe that o'reilly is the devil's PR guy though. it's sad how many people can't understand it's a tv show. i had a friend who was on o'reilly one time. He told him point blank, "this is television. I need you to yell, get upset and remember this is nothing personal. we're going to argue and have a good time." - Jason Shultz from twhirl

@Jason: understanding it's a tv show is one thing. recognizing this (and other similar) show's effect on voters and election outcomes is another. there's a point where opinion becomes 'yelling fire' and those who have big megaphones (no matter their viewpoint) can have a disproportionate effect on outcomes. w/ power comes responsibility. i, personally, don't count bill as responsible. - MikeAmundsen

Maybe it's showing that Fox wants to hedge its bets against Obama winning. Probably a good idea for them. - Dave Winer

Jason: It's not the point. He passes himself off as a legitimate news person. There are alot of idiots out there who buy his BS. He's been called out so many times for being wrong, yet he never apologises and by that time its too late when he lies, his viewers believe him. - PC Easy from twhirl

+1 Hutch. Obama was on the "Factor" for, c. three days. - Helen Sventitsky

O'reilly's show is opinion. it's his opinion of events. He's not a news anchor. It's his show and his view. IMO, he's no more then Howard Stern. He makes money off of controversy. Otherwise people wouldn't pay attention to him. Even people who don't like him, watch him, and then talk about him. 24 hours news channels fill up a lot of their time with shows that aren't "real" news but... more... - Jason Shultz from twhirl

sex offender watch list. The news stations picked it up and ran it that night. Two of the stations dropped it quickly when they found out the facts behind the story (both were under 17, consenting, no jail time). The other station kept running it as a big time deal that he was sexual predator and ignored the facts even when they new it. The fact is, news broadcasts need to make money. The fact is, there is some bias in reporting to some extent and it does vary from station to station. That's just life. - Jason Shultz

Jason: If you are speaking of local news stories, you are wrong. Its not so much bias, it comes down to 2 things. The people who work in local newsrooms are not paid very well. They went to college to learn to become a TV reporter and don't really study journalism. Stations spends waste so much money on talent and useless equipment, that they can't fully staff a news room. Most of the... more... - PC Easy from twhirl

Jason's right. Politics in this era is really about forced friction in an effort to sell more advertising. It's not just the right, it's nearly everyone in the mainstream media. Greed and ad rates rule our political discourse. The Internet is infected by this media, but should fight against it at all costs. - AJ Kohn

@Jason: my comment was not about "news"/"opinion" it was about megaphones and responsibility. while (MS)NBC folks backed away from mixing commentators and 'hard news', the problem remains. Olbermann and his ilk (O'Reilly, Scarborough, Hannity...) have a big megaphone and their talk can affect outcomes. that is not always a good thing for this country. - MikeAmundsen

AJ has a point. I feel like people are mimicking what they see on TV. You don't see people on TV listen. They are too busy yelling at each other so sure in their own opinion that they are unwilling to accept anything else. No one says, "oh really, I didn't think of it that way. You might be right!" It's same in real life. Out of all the conversations I've seen on FriendFeed lately of a... more... - Jason Shultz from twhirl

Dave: Make that "pigs with lipstick, fly". - Roberto Bonini

@Jason: Bingo! Even when we get to issues (which is rarely) it's about posturing instead of discourse. America deserves better, but ... we keep reinforcing the behavior through ratings. Invest in your *own* critical thinking and stop inserting someone else's in it's place. - AJ Kohn

I follow everyone just to see the noise that the A listers put into the system that ISN'T paid attention to. - Robert Scoble

Well, that, and I just like the noise from everyone. - Robert Scoble

Who started that term 'noise' anyway? It sounds rude. The things people share and the comments they post are far from 'noise' imo. - Mona Nomura

I don't think the A-list truly exists. Link? ;) - Josh Haley

noise is a very generic term mona; I think you are trying to put it into the wrong context when thinking that - mjc

think it comes from the "river of noise" designation regarding twitter - mjc

A listers! I love that term. Who do these people think they are? None of them are changing the world. - Ryan

Mona: you should try following 20,000 on Twitter like I do. Then you'd understand what I'm saying when I say "noise." - Robert Scoble

@Ryan - maybe not changing the world, but often they change my day... and usually for the better. - Fa La La La Lindsay

Ryan: you do realize what "A" stands for, don't you? It isn't positive. :-) - Robert Scoble

mjc: Wrong context? That is how I view that term... but now that I read your second comment, I see now. Remember? I didn't flow from Twitter to here? - Mona Nomura

I'm not hating on A-listers as much as I'm hating on the haters who labeled people A-listers. - Ryan

then we have people like me who have exhausted the letters and numbers lists and had to start on the non-standard characters to define their ranking ;) - alphaxion

I want to follow the ~listers. - Fa La La La Lindsay

mjc: "signal to noise ratio" borrowed from radio and electrical engineering, and then subsequently applied to usenet groups, etc., is a phrase that has been around for awhile. Noise = stuff you don't care about. http://www.netlingo.com/lookup... - Laura Norvig

Yeah, but Scoble - if you follow 20,000, some degree of noise is to be expected. :) Twitter, to me, is a craps shoot for content - that's why I like it. You never know what's going on. Noise can also be seen as a chance for serendipity. FriendFeed is much the same way - I've come to appreciate that aspect of "social networks." - l0ckergn0me

@Scoble really? I guess I had a different definition of A-lister. - Ryan

Robert: But FriendFeed is different from Twitter. Twitter is so one sided. With @replies galore and one sided conversations up the wa-zoo. FriendFeed is way different, imho. - Mona Nomura

@l0ckergn0me you're an a-lister so this is somewhat circular - Jeremiah Owyang

Serendipity is the major reason to swim in noise. - Robert Scoble

D-Listers Unite! White Noise Platform! (picture a crowd of people holding placards with nothing but TV-snow on em, and shouting from megaphones that just emit a raspy SHHHH of static) - Marko Bon

Robert's got seriously huge floaties to "swim" so well in all this noise! - Susan Beebe

I don't know that I could unsubscribe from any of the "A-listers" because they are often responsible for starting discussions that would never get started, involving people who never would have been able to be involved in the discussion. I've found FF to be a truly fascinating social experiment. - Kenton

I don't even know who the a-listers are...if you are interesting (meaning you have a pulse and post mostly in english) I will probably subscribe to you...if you subscribe to me, have a pulse and speak mostly in english I will subscribe to you - Alex Scoble

Who are the A-listers? - Jonathan.Rivera

This is fun and all, but I feel like the Architect rebooted the Matrix or something... - Mark Dykeman

excellent point. but aren't you also ALIST? - Noah David Simon

No, Noah, Chris is king of the G-list (G in this instance alternatively standing for Gnome or Geek) - Alex Scoble

@alex I find there is a degree of popularity contest about it too.. regardless of what some people have to say, they get ignored for others who post vacuous but ego massaging posts. T'is the way of the world really! cyber or meat space are more alike than many realise. - alphaxion