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Paul Buchheit
Movies we should watch again:
The Big Lobowski - Paul Buchheit
Real Genius - Kevin Fox
Airplane - Jim Goldstein
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - Paul Buchheit
The Woman in Red - Tony Peters
Ferris Bueller - Nils Sandin
Brazil - Jim Goldstein
The Princess Bride - Jenna Bilotta
All ZAZ films (Kentucky Fried Movie, Airplane, Naked Gun, Hot Shots) and Most Mel Brooks films (Blazing Saddle and Young Frankenstein) - Neal Krummell
Goonies - Jenna Bilotta
+1 For Lobowski! - TheHenry
Chinatown - Karl Rosaen
bottle rocket - Karl Rosaen
Factory Girl Edie - simge ungor
+1 for Young Frankenstein! (and yes, I sooo need to see Chinatown again) - Tony Peters
Harold & Maude (& I 2ndYoung Frankenstein) - Jim Goldstein
Just watched: Waynes World ..... classic - patrick
Fight Club - Matt Ruiz
Lives of Others - Deepak Singh
Into the wild - Alexey Melchakov
just recently caught "Point Break" on netflix streaming, can't say I regret watching it again - Karl Rosaen
Tron - Kevin Fox
Memento - Stephen Mack
Blast from the Past - Kishore Balakrishnan
star wars - chaz2b
The Good, The Bad & The Ugly - Jim Goldstein
Fast times at Ridgemont high. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Sixteen candles. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Spirited Away - Shirley Wu
Grosse Point Blank. - Joe - Systems Analyst
Shawshank Redemption - Gabe
+1 Brazil. Also Do The Right Thing - Steve Crossan
Being John Malkovich - weird stuff. - Joe - Systems Analyst from iPod
Army of Darkness...preferably with beer and friends - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm not a big fan of watching something I've already seen, but I could probably watch The Last Dragon again. I suspect seeing that would be a first for most of you, since it tanked at the box office. Why? Taimak is so beautiful! - MiniMage
Ok, I'm looking at highlights. I know why :D - MiniMage
+1 to The Lives of Others and Spirited Away; wonderful movies. And I'll add Tous les Matins du Monde, Immortal Beloved, and The Red Violin. All amazing movies if you love music. - Joel Webber
+1 to The Lives of Others and Spirited Away; wonderful movies. And I'll add Tous les Matins du Monde, Immortal Beloved, and The Red Violin. All amazing movies if you love music. - Joel Webber
Boondock Saints - scott willeke
Punch-Drunk Love - edythe
Falling Down, Beautiful Girls, Juno, Almost Famous - Liza + = ?
Can't Buy Me Love (African Dance scene) - Liza + = ?
Matrix?! :-o - hIpPy
+++ edythe - RAPatton
Better Off Dead, 3 O'Clock High, The Killing Fields - Capn' One Eye - adrift
Rap: :) - edythe
"How I Got In To College". Yeah, I said it. - Kevin Fox
++ to Jim Goldstein for Airplane! and to both Jim and Ricci Krassa for Harold and Maude. :) - edythe
Pulp fiction - arunthampi from iPhone
Anything by Hitchcock or Miyazaki. Almost anything by Stanley Kubrick, Ridley Scott, David Lynch, Tarantino, or Coen Bros. - Tinfoil 2.0
this is an example of a discussion prompt that got messy. So I vote for two, too: Revenge of the Nerds, Moving Violations, and anything with Kate Blanchett, I mean by Woody Allen. I mean produced by Harvey Weinstein. - Lane Rapp
The Fifth Element - Josh Haley from iPhone
Transporter 1, 2 & 3 - Mac Sharp
Dune. - Bwana ☠
Vanilla Sky - Mike Bracco
1UP Bwana - Josh Haley from iPhone
Stalker. - Akiva
Riddick - Mac Sharp
Men in Black - Mac Sharp
Trainspotting - Will Higgins™
Chungking Express - Rodfather
12 Angry Men - Dennis O'Neil
Sin City - Mac Sharp
Kill Bill - Mac Sharp
E.T. - Mark Evans from iPhone
Jason Bourne series - Mac Sharp
Being There - Cathryn Hrudicka
Matewan (a John Sayles film) - Cathryn Hrudicka
Mr & Mrs Smith - Mac Sharp
The Conversation - Cathryn Hrudicka
On the Waterfront - Cathryn Hrudicka
Rashomon - Cathryn Hrudicka
Men With Guns. Cidade de Deus. Not happy, but wonderful movies. - Joel Webber
A Patch of Blue - Cathryn Hrudicka
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (and read the book!) - Cathryn Hrudicka
Midnight Cowboy - Cathryn Hrudicka
In the Heat of the Night - Cathryn Hrudicka
Day for Night - Cathryn Hrudicka
A River Runs Through it - Mac Sharp
The Unbearable Lightness of Being - Cathryn Hrudicka
Manhattan (and some of Woody Allen's other movies) - Cathryn Hrudicka
Do the Right Thing (and other Spike Lee movies) - Cathryn Hrudicka
My Brilliant Career - Cathryn Hrudicka
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - Cathryn Hrudicka
Chan is Missing - Cathryn Hrudicka
The Saint with Val Kilmer - Mac Sharp
My Left Foot - Cathryn Hrudicka
My Beautiful Laundrette - Cathryn Hrudicka
Gran Torino - travispuk from iPhone
Tomb Stone - Mac Sharp
American Splendor - Cathryn Hrudicka
Ghost World - Cathryn Hrudicka
The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries, and other Ingmar Bergman films - Cathryn Hrudicka
Moulin Rouge with Nicole Kidman - Mac Sharp
Cool Hand Luke and Hud - Bonnie Foster
The Graduate - Bonnie Foster
Easy Rider - Bonnie Foster
BrotherHood Of The Wolf (Le Pacte Des Loups) - Mac Sharp
The Last of The Mohicans - Melly
Wanted with Anjelina Jolie and Morgan Freeman - Mac Sharp
BeoWulf - Mac Sharp
A Clockwork Orange - Gabe
It's crazy to me how consistently "Children of Men" is overlooked. - Chip Ramsey
Alien & Aliens - Rolf Schewe
Children of Men - Mac Sharp
Reign of Fire - Mac Sharp
space balls! :D - Susan Beebe from BuddyFeed
Blazing Saddles - Mac Sharp
¡Three Amigos! - Mac Sharp
Broadcast News - Cathryn Hrudicka
King of Hearts - Cathryn Hrudicka
The Ghost and the Darkness - Mac Sharp
Kalifornia - Mac Sharp
Seven - Mac Sharp
Atlantic City - Cathryn Hrudicka
All That Jazz - Cathryn Hrudicka
The Boondock Saints - B.J. Mendelson
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb; Lolita; other Kubrick films - Cathryn Hrudicka
Kiss of the Spider Woman - Cathryn Hrudicka
Time Bandits - April Buchheit
Vanity Fair (the BBC version and not the version with Reese Witherspoon in it - that was such a crappy rendition imho) - April Buchheit
ForestGump - sirishkumar
Cast Away — more than anything, I liked the skillful use of silence in the soundtrack, which you don't hear much in today's films. I'm biased, perhaps, because I interned with Sound Designer/Re-recording Mixer Randy Thom, but often I choose films based on their soundtracks as well as for visual reasons or a good screenplay. - Cathryn Hrudicka
MANY Capra films: It's a Wonderful Life (try watching it outside of Xmas so you aren't influenced by that), Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, It Happened One Night, American Madness, You Can't Take it With You - Spidra Webster
"The Magnificent Seven" - Thierry R. Andriamirado
To kill a mocking bird and 12 Angry Men - Shauns from iPhone
Matrix & The Beach - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Inglorious Bastards - Adrian
Apocalypto + lethal weapon I II III IV - r1lita
Apocalypse Now - Cathryn Hrudicka
Pursuit of Happyness - Nick Humphries
Paths of Glory - Absentee
Electric Dreams (not sure if that's the name but it's where the computer comes alive) - Joe Dawson from iPhone
2001: A Space Odyssey - Willem (@wim66) ☠
I can watch "A Christmas Story" at least once a year. - Spidra Webster
The Departed. - Shawn Whitmire
@CreativeSage great pointers to underrated movies - thanks. - andrei_c
Surfs up - Mac Sharp
Ratatouille - Mac Sharp
Happy Feet - Mac Sharp
L'Eclisse, The Passenger by Antonioni - andrei_c
Conformist, Stealing Beauty, The Last Emperor by Bertolucci - andrei_c
In The Mood For Love, 2046, Chungking Express by Wong Kar-Wai - andrei_c
Throw Momma From The Train - Mac Sharp
Rocky Horror Picture Show - Mac Sharp
@andrei_c Thanks for mentioning some other great films—there are so many different reasons certain ones resonate and we remember them over time. - Cathryn Hrudicka
Clue - Mac Sharp
They Shoot Horses, Don't They? - Cathryn Hrudicka
McCabe and Mrs. Miller - Cathryn Hrudicka
Paris, Texas - Cathryn Hrudicka
The Grapes of Wrath - Cathryn Hrudicka
Some Like it Hot - Cathryn Hrudicka
UHF - Peter from iPhone
Wings of Desire - Charles Tanton
Reservoir Dogs - Charles Tanton
Wild at heart - Charles Tanton
Wedding Crashers - Charles Tanton
+1 Cathryn +1 Mac :) - Franc, a rememberer
I mean ++Crouching Tiger ++ Rocky Horror Picture Show =P - Franc, a rememberer
Seven Samurai - Andrew Terry
Top Gun? - funkyboy
+1 For Lobowski! - Özgür
Goodfellas (1990) http://bit.ly/XXrwg - Michael Fidler
The Sting (1973) http://bit.ly/WUXd1 - Michael Fidler
Equilibrium (2002) http://bit.ly/gUk7L - Michael Fidler
Lawrence of Arabia (1962) http://bit.ly/prB3J - Michael Fidler
12 Monkeys - Anton
Spartacus (1960) http://bit.ly/PCOlR "I'm Spartacus" - Michael Fidler
Full Metal Jacket (1987) http://bit.ly/31yx7 - Michael Fidler
Legends of Fall - imran
The Warriors (1979) http://bit.ly/fwLBC - Michael Fidler
The Mission (1986) http://bit.ly/236QzJ - Michael Fidler
The Hunt for Red October (1990) http://bit.ly/2X0d4O - Michael Fidler
The Elephant Man (1980) http://bit.ly/D8C3N - Michael Fidler
We Were Soldiers (2002) http://bit.ly/V9Smu Excellent! - Michael Fidler
Time Bandits (1981) http://bit.ly/DCTls - Michael Fidler
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971) http://bit.ly/ILnmJ I watch it when I'm sick; it makes me feel better! - Michael Fidler
Planet of the Apes (1968) http://bit.ly/17mW3H - Michael Fidler
Casablanca (1942) http://www.imdb.com/title... - vinod
Good Will Hunting (1997) http://bit.ly/18BIvZ - Michael Fidler
Groundhog Day (1993) http://www.imdb.com/title... (Again and again ;) - Jemm
Sid and Nancy (1986) http://bit.ly/DJonx - Michael Fidler
Modern Times (1936) - Trent Hamm
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) http://bit.ly/68WFY - Michael Fidler
As Good as It Gets (1997) http://www.imdb.com/title... - Amit Morson
The Pink Panther (1963) http://bit.ly/19Y7Ex - Michael Fidler
Enter the Dragon (1973) http://bit.ly/ZnoGA - Michael Fidler
Annie Hall (1977) http://bit.ly/Xj7YN - Michael Fidler
Heaven Can Wait (1978) http://bit.ly/WtC54 - Michael Fidler
Defending Your Life (1991) http://bit.ly/3xqbgy - Michael Fidler
Little Big Man (1970) http://bit.ly/UPrF1 - Michael Fidler
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) http://bit.ly/AsywZ - Michael Fidler
Network (1976) http://bit.ly/14ut31 should be re-made - Michael Fidler
My Dinner with Andre (1981) http://bit.ly/TnJN7 - Michael Fidler
Saturday Night Fever (1977) http://bit.ly/9SFMv - Michael Fidler
2001 Space Odyssey - Harold Cabezas
Logan's Run - Mark Layton
Big Trouble in Little China - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Purple Rain - Tofu De la Moore from BuddyFeed
Some really good suggestions. Pi, stalker, oldboy are definitely worth to watch again. I could watch the good the bad and the ugly everyday. Mulholland drive and sraight story are my suggestion. - Mario from Android
Shine + Sling Blade - Dough Balls
Some great suggestions. My personal play list now contains: The Big Lobowski, Brazil, Blazing Saddle, Young Frankenstein, The Great Escape, Waynes World, Fight Club, Memento, The Godfather, I, II and III, Fast times at Ridgemont high, Fargo, Being John Malkovich, Serenity, A Clockwork Orange, Alien, Dr. Strangelove, Teh Conformist, Rocky Horror Picture Show, and Some Like it Hot. Blade... more... - Ken Morley
star wars series, ocean's eleven, the prestige - Ahmet Soyata
Nine Queens - bet most people have never watched it - Andy Davies
The Breakfast Club - bujio
Kikujiro - Krishnamoorthy
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Ed Dale
Brush Up on Getting Things Done with an Updated Flow Chart [GTD] - http://lifehacker.com/5313660...
Mel Kirk
OMG I should have worn fewer clothes! *sweltering*
Kol Tregaskes
What movie has the best fight scenes or scene?
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For me the Bourne movie fight scenes are immense. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
*Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf* ... Oh, you mean physical fight scenes... My bad. - Absentee
I agree I loved the fight scenes in Bourne - LOL James those were some scary fight scenes - comix aka martha
Hehe, James. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Jackie Chan's the most consistent fight scene performer for me. For a specific movie or scene, the Bourne trilogy is amazing - LANjackal
The scene in Ultimatum in Morocco is superb! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
The "corridor scene" in Old Boy. - JazJaz
Yeah, the fight scenes in Bourne are not only immense, but very realistic as well. - jan geronimo
and brutal! - Big Joe Silence
The lobby scene in The Matrix where Neo and Trinity demolish half an army. - Rahul Das
Equilibrium Gun Katas were really wild. loved the idea behind it. used well, in the flick, too. - MikeAmundsen
Bourne hands down. - TheHenry
between bourne and bruce lee - Parvez Halim
Depends on what u mean by fight. King Kong vs. the T Rex in peter jacksons remake was an amazing scene. - Shauns from iPhone
The ladder fight in Once Upon a Time in China and Neo vs Agent Smith X100 in Matrix 2 are both great fights but Ong-Bak has the best fight scenes i have ever seen. - Steve
Matrix! - Agent Smith vs Neo. - Fırat Demirel
The Matrix has some of thee best fight scenes ever. Difficult to pick one. - Roberto Bonini
Roberto, you are right. so i did not explain the scenes. ;o) - Fırat Demirel
enter the dragon, bourne series, rocky series... - Krishna Gade
Any of the 'Bourne' movies. - Sean
Transporter (original) is fun. - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Definitely the "Bourne" movies. - TVTechGrl
"They Live". You know I'm right. - Josh Haley from iPhone
They Live, with the incredibly long fight between Rowdy Roddy Piper and Keith David. - DGentry
yes that long fight in "They Live" - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
I would have said the Matrix, but the scenes were just too CGI. I would say the Bourne Trilogy again for some intense action. Special mention to Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon and Hero. - travispuk from iPhone
The Kill Bill movies. - Ben Hanten
maximum risk, jean claude van damme vs russian guy at sauna - رامین
For me it's probably Ong Bak. Crows Zero has some great scenes too (not so far from that corridor scene from Old Boy). - Brome
Correction "Kiss OF the Dragon" ;) and yes, all the fight scenes in that movie are amazing. Li doesn't use a firearm in a single scene - LANjackal from IM
The ONCE UPON A TIME IN CHINA movies. Jet Li without the Hollywood speed bumps for four movies. Teh awesomesauce. - Steven Perez from Android
Jet Li's FIST OF LEGEND, Jackie Chan's POLICE STORY, Tony Jaa's ONG-BAK. - cdogzilla | downgraded
Drunken Master 2 (Jackie vs 5, Jackie & Lau Kar-Leung vs 100 in the restaurant). The Protector has an unbelievable 4 minute single shot where Tony Jaa runs up a large building, kicking tremendous ass along the way, and there's those three one-on-ones he has as well. SPL doesn't have a lot of fight scenes, but Donnie Yen vs Jing Wu is outstanding. The Cowboy Bebop movie has some... more... - Andrew C (✔)
If you're going to include the Matrix lobby scene, you might include a few other gunfight scenes - The Killer, Hard Boiled, Shoot 'Em Up. - Andrew C (✔)
Michael Curtiz's Captain Blood (1935). He also directed the Adventures of Robin Hood and Casablanca. - Zach Landes
"Big Boss", Bruce Lee - Thierry R. Andriamirado
The Matrix, Kill Bill, 300 and House of Flying Daggers (the bamboo fight sequence was brilliant)! - Frank Da Silva
Jet Li's 'Kiss of the Dragon' is one of my modern favorites. I've heard that they actually had to slow down the footage, because Li was simply too fast. - Will Higgins™
FIST OF LEGEND with Jet Li. Sorry, the others don't hold a candle to the final two sequences in this movie. - Andrew Leyden
The Bourne Films for the striking realism and They Live for the sheer length of that scene. Honorable mention to Ong Bak - Robert Davies
The greatest fight scene in movie history and it takes until this far into the comments for someone to identify it? Sheesh - The best scene ever is clearly the Sword Fighting scene in The Princess Bride. It's inconceivable that I'm the first one to mention it. - Bill Rawlinson
@Bill: !ha! good pick. - MikeAmundsen
The first Matrix, Neo vs. Agent Smith. - Eric P
Happy Gilmore - michael sean wright
Ryan Block
Okay, we're back up! Until you guys crush us again, anyway.
Atul Arora
Apple’s iPhone 3.0 Rings in the Emerging Paid Web - http://gigaom.com/2009...
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Helen Sventitsky – Jeanie and Her Inner Rock God (RPM Challenge Version 1) - http://www.last.fm/music...
Patrick Jordan
Emoticons on iPhone without Jailbreak - iJustine Has Video Demo - http://tastyblogsnack.com/2009...
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This is very cool - Shauns
got 'em. they are fun! only for other iphone users though. - BEX
i'm going to do this, while optimistically hoping my iPhone does not become a Chinese gov't dronebot - Anthony Citrano
Just tried it with no luck, but I'm going to keep trying. - Devon Campbell
worked fine for me, other iphone users seem adequately surprised / entertained, FWIW. I'm an emoticon sucker though. Like PS brushes, I can never seem to have enough. >;-) - Anthony Citrano
Annie Ok
Mind Flex: mind control game by Mattel - uses brain waves to float a ball through an obstacle course - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Mind Flex: mind control game by Mattel - uses brain waves to float a ball through an obstacle course
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"Daniel Sieberg spoke with Mattel's Jim Sheridan about their new mind control toy, Mind Flex. The game uses brain waves to power a fan that floats a ball through an obstacle course." - Annie Ok
David Bisset (sn)
"Get ready to take mobile photo editing to a whole new level! Mac Soda has heard word that MacWorld 09 will bring full photo editing features to the iPhone. From retouching, to cropping, to applying filters, iPhoto on the iPhone will be the next big thing in mobile photography." - David Bisset (sn) from Bookmarklet
cropping is the #1 thing I want in editing - Courtney Engle from Alert Thingy
i want a better camera before i'l start editing on the iphone - Zee.
+1 Zee. How badly do I need to touch-up my blurry, poorly-lit iPhone pics? - Carter ♥ JS
My iPhone has tons of pics from emails and other sources outside my camera. And I would like to be able to brighten a pic or crop a photo before emailing it to a friend or posting on Twiiter. Even if it's not the best pic in the world. A better camera means a hardware upgrade (new iPhone) so I welcome a smarter/cheaper feature (this would be just software) in the meantime. Negativity, yikes. - David Bisset (sn)
Not to mention that 3/4 of the photos i've taken with my iPhone have been good, not blurry. Of course, that's not shaking my arm and taking pictures in good light. But that's another discussion... - David Bisset (sn)
but really David, you've often got an email and though "ooh, not a bad photo - just wish i could brighten it up and crop it before syncing it to my desktop or forwarding it on to anyone..." . I just can't see the point right now - of course, should the iphone photo quality get much better...this is a gem. - Zee.
as cool as I think this is, photo editing is cumbersome on the small screen. it might be good for small edits, but then why would you want such a beasty program for that. I would love to use the event management in iPhoto, that would be cooler than editing. - Thom Allen
Can I have copy paste instead? - Jeff (Team マクダジ )
I'll take the wait and see position on this app. I'd rather edit photos on a larger screen using a mouse. - Bob Gannon
Zee, I'd be lying if i said I wished for cropping and such on every or even most pictures i get via email or even take with my camera. I think we are all in agreement this isn't a use-everytime thing anyway. But yes - i have taken pictures that i wish i could zoom before submitting them to TwitPics or emailing. If nothing more than to remove people or background items I don't want included. I don't think this is Photoshop (I agree with Bob), just simple tools. I don't see the big deal honestly. - David Bisset (sn)
i hope it is free and good like the one on OS X Leopard - TheHenry
iPhoto on iPhone only makes sense if Apple ships a phone with a better camera. The current iPhone sucks more than most 2 megapixel cameraphone cameras. It has terrible low light, appalling colour balance, is fuzzy and has no flash (Note- I'm not comparing it to other 2mp phones here, not good cameraphones like the Carl Zeiss Nokia's, SonyEricsson Cybershots and 8 megapixel Samsungs) - Ian Fogg
This could be really sweet, but I agree the camera really sucks. - Spencer
Have to agree, iPhone needs a better camera and I wonder if this is a clue to an improved version for this year. - Shauns
If it means anything, I think the next iPhone will have a better camera (primarily for video, not to quiet the photo whiners). Hopefully this is the path they are going down, if iPhoto comes to the iPhone in some form. - David Bisset (sn)
David, iPhone camera sucks when shooting anything at distance due to fixed focus lens. This is unrelated to camera shake or megapixels. In fact the only scenario where it doesn't completely suck is portraiture within 10 feet distance. Everything else is not completely blurry, but far from sharp either - mediocre at best. I really hope competition with Nokia (which ships better cameraphones than iPhone) will force Apple to upgrade the camera soon. - andrei_c
Andrei, agreed... not good at a distance but that's why I have my other camera (the one with the better lens) for shots like that. Most of my shots I choose to take with my iPhone are close quarters in good or decent light. Regardless, i hope they do upgrade it but you won't see it until iPhone does video IMO. - David Bisset (sn)
Robert Scoble
I found a new way to tell how someone is smart. I will discuss that here:
If you block someone and they keep leaking into the conversation they are either smart or disruptive or both. I call that a social media artifact. Dave Winer kept leaking into my conversations. I unblocked him because I kept wanting to see what he said. - Robert Scoble
Hu? - paul mooney
I'm all eyes ..... - Jim Sparrow
Ok, I am definitely not smart. Thanks for the message Robert ;) - Jeremy Chone
I just ask them if they shop at Wal-Mart or watch American Idol. :D - MarkCarras
lemme guess. Their Twitter authority? - Francine Hardaway from twhirl
Or # of cited articles in ACM? - Zian Choy
It is interesting how people can cause artifacts to appear even after they are removed from your view. - Robert Scoble
Francine: I proved that is impossible to demonstrate with Stowe Boyd. - Robert Scoble
Scoble, you're a sweet guy -- you do sometimes get on my nerves -- but that's not exactly front page news is it? :-) - Dave Winer
See, here I thought you were being all awesome with the "brb" comment. You should have left it. - Nick
someone can be smart about disruption. That doesn't make them smart. It makes them tenacious. - Karoli
Seems like that is a matter of "friends-of-friends" - 2nd degree association? - Renee Hendricks
BTW, that was kind of the point of my piece -- and the idiots (and I do mean idiots) who told me to unsubscribe -- they really are idiots. - Dave Winer
"Dave Winer kept leaking into my conversations." -- Robert Scoble (I have dibs on THAT quote. Hint: Depends.) - jeneane sessum
Interesting idea, Robert, but it's based on the assumption that the blocked person's smartness (or disruptiveness or both) is demonstrated by the number of subscriptions shared by you and him. You could argue that truly smart people would automatically have a lot of subscribers but that isn't necessarily true. A lot of very smart people here keep low profiles. - Akiva
Karoli: yup. Or addicted. - Robert Scoble
Akiva: I could leak into your conversations without having a single follower. - Robert Scoble
Hey Robert - you're doing that in quite the roundabout way. I can usually tell purely by how many grammar mistakes are in their writing. ;) - Adam Singer
now you may understand WHAT I was getting at earlier.... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Robert, don't confuse popularity (and/or celebrity) with intelligence. A lot of people know your name but a lot of people know Paris Hilton's name, too. - Akiva
Akiva: Good god - I think my head exploded while trying to wrap my head around a similarity between Scoble and Hilton. Robert, have you been out partying with a chihuahua under your arm and saying "That's hot"? - Renee Hendricks
Smart in the sense of maintaining Social Network collateral? Sounds misleading. My perception of finding out how smart someone is & your version vary greatly. Comprehension, conversation, and viable solutions are what "smart" is about in my book, not persistence. - Enrique Gutierrez
Susanne, I dunno but I have seen photos of Robert topless! - Akiva
By the way, people who are only disruptive won't create these artifacts. That is why there is sizable social pressure to not be disruptive too much here. - Robert Scoble
The problem with definitions of what is smart person is that all of them are non-definitive and tend to produce false negatives. By your definition most introverts/socially challenged people are not smart (which is far from truth). Or maybe there is some other meaning of word 'smart' that eludes me because I'm most certainly not :) - andrei_c
Akiva: yes, a celebrity could cause SOME artifacts. But not enough. Why? Because if he/she didn't say stuff and didn't participate and/or only said idiotic things, they would quickly get blocked by almost everyone and ignored. Also, look at the scientists here. I don't participate with them, and them with me (for the most part). Why? Because we don't care about the same things. If I went over to each of their posts and started disrupting them, they'd block me and my artifacting creation would go way down. - Robert Scoble
I could see some thinking that I was not "smart" because I am not able to put near as much time into social networking because my paying gig doesn't put me in front of a computer for 95% of my work day. - MarkCarras
andrei: you are right. But this is only one way. The introverts would get discovered some other way. :-) - Robert Scoble
Instead of "smart" I'd go with "insidious". - Renee Hendricks
Susanne: no, someone who is insidious would eventually get treated as a loser and would get blocked by everyone, or ignored. To create social media artifacts you've gotta bring value into the system. - Robert Scoble
Akiva is definitely correct, because this approach assumes the person has lots of followers, which is not the case. Still, it's an interesting indicator. Robert's point about people who are only disruptive is also correct. - Michael Krigsman
Michael: it would not matter that Dave has or hasn't got a lot of followers. Not at all. It just would depend on him participating in a lot of threads. The more participation, the more value he brings into the system, the more people would have conversations with him, the more artifacts he'd create. - Robert Scoble
The world always has to pass a Scoble smart test, doesn't it? - Michael Markman
Robert: Ok, in this context I am incorrect. Sorry, I think I still have *someone* in particular rattling around in my head. Perhaps "clever" or "adept"? - Renee Hendricks
Markman: by making statements that get you to engage I create more social media artifacts which draws in all your followers and gets them to engage. :-) - Robert Scoble
I think perhaps this has more to do with the size of the echoes one makes in the echo chamber than smartness. - Akiva
Bullo: do you see Igor the Troll discussed here? Not at all. I am watching a good percentage of the threads. Most people have blocked him because he went over the line. That's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. He didn't bring any value, just caused disruption. I cause disruption too, which is why WIner was pissed off yesterday, but I do bring value, too (600 likes so far this week). - Robert Scoble
Akiva: and, have you seen a dumb person make echoes? Igor the Troll is a good example. No echoes. Dave Winer. Lots of echoes. Why? - Robert Scoble
It's a different level or type of disruption though and I think that is the difference. - MarkCarras
Mark: yeah, but it's one that happens only when you get other people to engage with you. That's not disruption, or is it? Do you feel disrupted right now? - Robert Scoble
Mark, I don't feel disrupted by you right now, but if we removed your comments from this disruption everyone would see the artifact and wonder what happened. - Robert Scoble
Exactly. It's not really a disruption if it engages people in conversation. - MarkCarras
Robert, I still think that it's a matter of popularity. I can think of at least one FriendFeed user who gets plenty of echoes but who is definitely not smart. But do to populary, that person gets echoed endlessly. - Akiva
To cause those disruptions that takes someone who causes conversation. Maybe not smart in terms of being able to solve a calculus problem, but you had to say something interesting enough to get me to respond back. Which is what created the artifact. - Robert Scoble
Akiva: leave my brother out of it. ;-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: Agreed - you do cause valued disruption. - Renee Hendricks
Susanne. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert, ZING! - Akiva
Akiva: but seriously, now we can get somewhere and create an algorithm for authority. Look for the artifacts. Who is creating the artifacts? Are they wine experts? Then the person who created the artifacts is probably also a wine expert. Are they idiots? Then the person who created the artifacts is probably also an idiot. etc etc. So, now, how do you find the smart people? Look for the smart people, then look for the artifacts and you'll find other smart people. - Robert Scoble
Oh, and Dave, you're a sweet guy too and you get on my nerves sometimes too! - Robert Scoble
Robert, how about this? Smart people tend to produce more artifacts but not all artifacts are made by smart people. - Akiva
We all have opinions. The squeaky wheel used to get the grease, guess that's changed with all the fake persona's. And for the record...big ego's get on my nerves. Maybe a better question is who has the biggest ego and who can make it most pertinent? - Sheryl
so you missed my point then? :o/ - Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: yes, there weren't enough artifacts in the disucssion there. - Robert Scoble
I can haz followers then? (sorry. couldn't help myself) :D - MarkCarras
Robert, oh sweet *place you preferred deity here* that's exactly what I was searching for when thinking about this whole "authority" thing. It's not enough that someone spouts off about a subject; they need to know what they are talking about and add value to that subject on a regular basis. Thumbs up! - Renee Hendricks
as a kind-of afterthought on this topic, it would be nice if FF had a way to tell you that "x people who you've blocked have commented on this item". Sometimes it's obvious based on reading the comments you CAN see, sometimes it's not. And my apologies if this was brought up within the "54 more comments" that I didn't "open". =} - Craig Eddy
robert - I'm on ff and have been for awhile, but I just dont GET ff :) OH. and so I mostly stick with twitter - Kathleen VanderVelde
Mark: I already follow you so begging here won't help. You've gotta get the rest the old fashioned way: by creating artifacts. Now you're starting to understand why I say it's most important to decide who you're going to follow and be very picky! - Robert Scoble
I know. I wasn't begging. I was just being a smart ass. Ask my wife, it happens a lot. :D - MarkCarras
Kathleen: I remember when everyone was first seeing Twitter that that was exactly what they said about it. :-) Mark: I do the same too, ask my wife about that. :-) - Robert Scoble
Robert: you contradict yourself to Mark. You think it important who you decide to follow yet follow EVERYONE! :) - Sheryl
I don't think he ever said follow everyone without thought though. - MarkCarras
http://friendfeed.com/e... <<< THIS was part of the point made here... "echo" "artifact" whatever label you wanna put onto it! ;o) seems when Robert says whatever..its gets more kudos...as i said, but Robert has just "labelled" it better. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, sometimes you just can't beat the intercept of popularity and timing. - Akiva
Mark: Maybe not...I guess that's where we all have different skill levels. I make an assumption that when you follow as many people as he does that you simply click the button arbitrarily or have an auto follow bot. I know I couldn't go through and look at that many people AND all the reading required and give a lot of thought. Certainly it would require a SIGNIFICANTLY more amount of structure than I clearly have. - Sheryl
I am a comment whore though. When I'm online I comment like crazy on high profile people and unknowns. It doesn't matter as long as I feel inspired to comment by what they post. - MarkCarras
It's like looking over thousands of emails a day a just knowing what is spam and what is not. After awhile you just know with a one second look. It becomes automatic. - MarkCarras
@Dave Winer: I didn't tell you to unsubscribe, because I saw how you snapped at people, but I thought some of those folks were actually trying to be helpful, so I wonder if you are being entirely fair. I have heard your name enough to know you ought to know how to handle your social media, but maybe not everyone has, yet. - MiniMage
Sheryl: you are absolutely wrong. I do not follow everyone. I am following 6,000 but 24,000 are following me. And I am VERY picky about who I follow. - Robert Scoble
Robert: I forgot the conversation you had with Leo saying it was a new thing you were no longer following everyone. Gotcha...See? Good thing I'm not trying for your title! :) - Sheryl
Sheryl: I never followed everyone. I used to -- on Twitter only -- follow everyone who followed me. But on friendfeed I have added everyone by hand. On Twitter I now only follow people who catch my eye for some reason, usually because they make a smart comment. - Robert Scoble
Robert: Thank you. I've not really been big on FF but a couple of your posts have drawn me over here the last couple days. Nice to have an opportunity for engagement. Also nice to get better information. Still not sure I agree with your definition of 'smart'. That's the industry driven idea. In r/l smart means something else. If you're talking notoriety, you're spot on. - Sheryl
So.. Robert... did what I posted ealier make more sense now then? you have sort of shown the other side of the coin here, my point was it wasn't YOU that some had issues with, maybe it was the "echoes" or whatever of everyone else commenting n your stuff.. see it was never an attack on you. ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
So are you saying that under Scoble's definition of smart I should have notoriety? - MarkCarras
Mark: only if you're willing to accept notoriety doesn't require any intelligence :) Ok...I'm done. - Sheryl
No intelligence? I am already there. :) - MarkCarras
interesting. if the normal flow of conversation is [SYN ⇔ ACK] and all you're seeing is [⇐ ACK] [⇐ ACK] [⇐ ACK], it is probably telling you there is a cut in your network :-) there are possibly some unique things to be learned from friendfeed specifically because of the ease with which people can be followed or blocked, and the ease of forming cliques (rooms)... - Karim
the "look for the smart people, you'll find other smart people" sounds like it's describing homophily (the "birds of a feather flock together" phenomenon). on the one hand it increases communication effectiveness -- you're on the same wavelength, so you don't spend time explaining things to n00bs -- but it can also lead to groupthink and polarization (e.g. I have seen several posts implying Republicans made a mass exodus from FF prior to the election). - Karim
Karim: The laws of attraction.... :) - Sheryl
+1 bill. - Rob Sellen :o)
All the smart people piped in Robert. They took the bait ! :) - bcultral
yeah im smart... Robert made good ppont here...even though I posted similar, earlier in a differnt manner lol ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Hey now! I resemble that statement. :P - MarkCarras
resemble? that means similar.... why do you lot say that, its the opposite of what you really mean ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)
It's called humor. ;) - MarkCarras
Well they are back and regrouping (the GOP types that is) They are experimenting with Twitter no less. I found this out this morning as I came upon some information that is explosive politically. I have spent the day processing this info and decided to blog about it. Problem is, this represent only my second blog and I am more distracted by the technical points of doing layout and... more... - bcultral
what is? i ask about resemble in all seriousness... just wondered why you Americans say it? - Rob Sellen :o)
Hmmm? Not sure the joke would transfer to en explanation. For example If I was offended and serious about what was said I would have said "I RESENT that statement", but since I wanted to make a joke I replaced RESENT with resemble. Meaning what was said fits. - MarkCarras
Is Scoble addicted to Dave Winer now? :-P - Jesse Stay
Right... ok I see what you mean... i only wondered as i see so many Americans say it... and 9 times out out of ten they actually mean the opposite, it seems.... :o) - Rob Sellen :o)
Strange. It just means it is kind of a close fit. It is very close but not exact. I would not be shocked though if my fellow Americans are caught often using words incorrectly. Their brains have been fried by Wal-Mart & American idol. :D - MarkCarras
why yes, Sheryl. [bats eyelashes coyly] ;-) and speaking of smart people, does anyone else think the problem with "authority" might be that it doesn't assume a Pareto distribution? i.e. Twitter is pretty much a handful of Scobles + everyone else? :-D - Karim
@robsellen: this may help clarify and give a bit more context http://www.urbandictionary.com/define... - Chris Heath
one point of clarification from me: I think Dave Winer is brilliant. don't need to block him to know that. :) - Karoli
OK what is the bottom line ??? entertaining thread to say the least! - Susan Beebe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... or, "despite the occasional ruffled feathers and subsequent friendfeed blocks, birds of a feather flock together" - Karim
The bottom line is: Smart isn't all it's cracked up to be. - Web Pixie
Not sure about it: many people would consider the smart thing to do when somebody blocks you is precisely ignore them. - Jordi Soler
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