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Assessing Jeremy Lin's Impact on Golden State Warriors, NBA | Bleacher Report - http://bleacherreport.com/article...
imabonehead, Shaw, Victor Ganata and 7 other people liked this
"As only the fourth Asian-American to ever play in the NBA, that is certainly an accomplishment. His hard work and rise from receiving no Division I scholarships to the NBA is quite a story, and an inspirational one at that. You will hear a lot about that, but the guy can also play ball"
- Rodfather
from Bookmarklet
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010...
- Rodfather
Nice to get a local boy.
- Rodfather
The last Asian-American I remember playing in the NBA was Rex Walters from San Jose.
- Rodfather
"Backing up Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis, Lin should learn a lot from these guys and provide some solid and efficient minutes off the bench. " - that's all well and good, but Monta Ellis is not exactly the mentor I'd want.
- chrisofspades
It's pretty exciting he'll be actually playing and getting good minutes.
- Rodfather
chris, last I remember hearing about Ellis and the Warriors (I'm more a casual fan than a diehard) was a couple of years ago, when he was tearing it up in the playoffs. What happened since then?
- Andrew C (✓)
Monta Ellis and Curry are still young so won't provide much mentoring besides working by example. Monta was still recovering from his knee injury a few years ago. This whole organization is work in progress at point. I hope the new owner and management will turn things around.
- Rodfather
...if the front office (new ownership) sets the right tone, it could be a good place for young player, but generally, if Nelly is still the coach, it will be tough, as that coach doesn't have a positive history with developing players
- .LAG liked that
Yep, Nellie doesn't like to play young guys. I was hoping Nellie would be gone by the beginning of the season. He's going to have to play him since he's the backup PG though.
- Rodfather
Andrew, there was the moped incident, the negative comments he made after the W's drafted Curry, the injury problems, etc. I think he's still a bit immature to be tabbed a leader, but that could still change because as Rod mentioned, he's still young.
- chrisofspades
*bump* What a crazy journey.
- Rodfather
Harvard Gazette: Academic turns city into a social experiment - http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette...
Paul Buchheit, ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ, Shaw and 6 other people liked this
"One of former Bogotá Mayor Antanas Mockus' many inspired strategies for changing the mindset - and, eventually, the behavior - of the city's unruly inhabitants was the installation of traffic mimes on street corners. (Photo courtesy of El Tiempo)"
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
How apt that the mayor's name was "Mock us"!
- Gabe
A friend of mine (Korean) and his wife (of German descent) had twins. Would you believe these guys are twins?
Muhammad Irfan, David Cook, Nicholas Kreidberg and 52 other people liked this
Pretty incredible difference. Genetics are amazing.
- Louis Gray
The matching sailboats are the give-away.
- Micah
I went to school with a half-Japanese/half-German guy who was a twin. He was very Asian-looking, but with long, blond hair. His brother was very German-looking with long, black hair. There was even an 8" difference in heights. For two years, I hung out with each of them in separate groups and didn't even know they were related until I went to their 21st birthday party.
- Anika
wow.
- Starmama
and those babies are freekin cute.
- Starmama
WOAH...that's amazing.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
I have friends, chinese and irish and their twins also don't look much alike either. Genetics are really very fascinating.
- Martha
Twins can be totally different, in looks and temperment. Duke and Zakh.....
- amelia arapoff
they are just so sweeet! look like baby dolls!
- minasedef
That's cool! And they are adorable :o)
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
Awwwww. And wow, they don't look that similar.
- Andrew C (✓)
I love the expression on the face and pose of the little guy on the right. Makes me think of this: http://thumb11.shutterstock.co...
- Chieze Okoye
And yeah, they are super cute and not at all similar, hehe.
- Chieze Okoye
RT @fontosaurus: BP wants Twitter to shut down a fake account mocking the oil company. Twitter wants BP to shut down the oil leak that’s ruining the ocean.
Shaw, ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ, Bruce Lewis and 3 other people liked this
Cheese A Day: "Instant Ramen" From Scratch - http://cheeseaday.blogspot.com/2010...
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Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど, Shaw, Parfe and 9 other people liked this
instead of eating cheapo instant ramen that may have dubious ingredients like palm oil, why not just make instant ramen from scratch?
- Bluesun 2600
from Bookmarklet
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- Mona Nomura
You have to realize that the author of this blog takes scratch to an extreme rarely seen. He once did a series of post on making a Reuben Sandwich. He made everything ie: the bread, the pastrami, the sour kruat, his russian dressing and last but not least he went to the extent of making his own cheese. I just find it amusing. :)
- Bluesun 2600
Thanks guys, I do take scratch to kind of an annoying extreme, but it's an intellectual pursuit that fascinates me. The best part? All of our grandparents used to have to do exactly this :)
- Jeremy
Ha, Jeremy keep the posts coming, I've enjoyed your blog.
- Bluesun 2600
I like your blog too, Jeremy. I don't think you're annoying with the scratch, it's often amazing to me since I lack patience.
- Anika
I'd like to try that recipe some day! Though my dough skills tend to suck.
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
I'll keep the posts coming, mostly cause I love the challenge :D
- Jeremy
Oh and Anika, it does take patience, but I find it is the good kind of patience, like the kind needed for sewing, crocheting, woodworking, and writing. Creative pursuits, regardless of what they are can be awesome! :)
- Jeremy
LOL You should see my half-finished sewing and woodworking projects or the 100s of drafts in my blogs. I lack patience. Seriously. =)
- Anika
@Anika, I think we may be kindred spirits, this blog may be the only thing I've actually followed through with. It really is obnoxious when you have more ideas than you can follow through with, but then again it's also rad when it works :D
- Jeremy
That is also true. And one of these days, I'll finish my projects AND actually write the blog posts for them.
- Anika
@Anika, email or msg me, I'd love to read :D
- Jeremy
@Christopher Harley -- we loved living in PDX, and I really, really miss the city. I am only 90 miles away though :D
- Jeremy
@Christopher Harley -- no, there's no way, is there? i can't get my Ars Technica and Martha Stewart merit badges in the same weekend, can I?
- Jeremy
The Single Greatest Tweet Of All Time starring: Ice-T, Aimee Mann and a hot bowl of NSFW - http://mona.posterous.com/the-sin...
Harold Cabezas, Shaw, Louis Simoneau and 32 other people liked this
Dude takes shit off of NO ONE. I've seen him totally go off on complete nobodies on Twitter. Some dude with 30 followers dissing him gets two in the face. Love it.
- Akiva
I like how he unnecessarily signs the tweet. Reminds me of how Rochelle's mother uses IM as if each message was an individual e-mail. She signs them all.
- Akiva
Who is Aimee Mann anyways?
- Outsanity
I wish I had to ask who Ice T is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Spidra Webster
There is a dude on Buzz that has a sig, a full multi-line email sig, on each of his comments. I it's absolutely ridiculous.
- Rah-PM 2012
We need to bring back Kibo.
- Akiva
Epic star power!
- imabonehead
Ice-T is gangsta. LOVE him.
- Mona Nomura
i'd rather listen to Aimee Mann any day. she's a great singer/songwriter/performer. Ice-T can't carry a tune in a bucket, much less write a song. apparently he still acts like a 13 year old, to boot.
- Joe The Sausage
Uhhh this isn't an Aimee Mann vs Ice-T. This is about not taking sh*t from anyone. She opened her mouth, talked her crap and he answered. Nothing wrong with that -- plus it makes good entertainment. I don't even know who this Aimee Mann girl is.
- Mona Nomura
I wouldn't know who she was either if it wasn't for Magnolia.
- Akiva
Aimee Mann is this singer-songwriter chick I remember from the '80s (she had a band called 'Til Tuesday). What she tweeted (read Mona's post, like she directs) was: "Christ, there is no reason in the world anyone should ever cast Ice-T in a television show." Mona posted both tweets in her entry.
- Dennis Jernberg
Even better, she kind of apologized for the initial tweet: http://twitter.com/aimeemann
- Rob H.
She only apologized because she got caught. What a moron LOL
- Mona Nomura
And he accepted (I guess): http://twitter.com/FINALLE... BTW, Aimee Mann played the German chick in the nihilist group in The Big Lebowski if you want to see her acting.
- Rob H.
What a wordsmith.
- Jack&Cleo
Ice-T is the man, though. He talks smack but has class. Love him. Not really interested in the has been -- she's lucky to get her five minutes of fame from T (frankly.)
- Mona Nomura
...how do we know it's rilly Ice-T? it could be his PR intern for all we know?
- .LAG liked that
He's really active on that Twitter account. It's definitely him.
- Rob H.
I would also say the choice of Twitter name is a giveaway... Any PR worth their salt would go for @icet
- Johnny
Wow, this is all kinds of beautiful absurdity! Ice-T is sooo punk rock. And Aimee Man... I had completely forgotten about her. Ok, maybe *repressed* her memory... the term singer song-writer makes my skin crawl, but dang, she's kinda hot for 49!
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
Johnny, John Cusack started with @shockozulu and only changed to @johncusack when it came time to plug Hot Tub Time Machine.
- Spidra Webster
...ok, so Ice-T's got twit-cred... can anyone remember even one signature Ice-T rap jam? (and "Colors...colors...colors..." doesn't count.
- .LAG liked that
Also, I don't know if a publicist would talk about Coco's ass all the time.
- Rob H.
Because interns aren't allowed to talk back or entertain insults -- also, the reason Twitter is so popular with celebs is because they can bypass their 'people' and have their voices heard. The only people I know for sure who have their PR people running their Twitter accounts are: Oprah, Ellen, Britney Spears and of course POTUS.
- Mona Nomura
...my point being: who cares about his acting—homeboy can barely rap! .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
POTUS. like the 'LUMPS' band? ;)
- Johnny
Hahaha actually he was smart to go into acting, otherwise he'd be crazy irrelevant. ;)
- Mona Nomura
...yeah, you're pro'lly right Mona: it's really him... and that was really Aimee Mann, too. Hush, hush, voices carry...
- .LAG liked that
Plus, PR Tweets are so...cookie cutter. I can tell RIGHT away who has PR Tweeting and who doesn't. ;)
- Mona Nomura
@Lag There are tons of them: 6 In the Morning, Power, High Rollers, the Hunted Child, etc. all part of late 80's hip-hop lore. Oh and let's not forget GLGBNAF. Basically... Ice-T is legend. And yes, it's true, he can't rap.
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
Bob Dylan couldn't sing, either
- Johnny
Neither can Madonna!
- Mona Nomura
Adrian ...I'm not doubting Ice-T's place in Hip Hop lore, but it's (as you note) more as a personality and a rap culture celebrity than as an actual performer. Hey, look, Aimee Mann may have been onto something: Ice T has created a legend and a mega-career in showbiz out of what doesn't look like very much talent to me. (And thank God, he's not on FriendFeed, or he'd probably tear me a new one for saying that.)
- .LAG liked that
Love Aimee Mann, but Ice T is the best part of SVU. :D
- Lix
Aimee Mann is is still very much current and respected in the music world. Ice-T, OTOH, not so much.
- Joe The Sausage
mercifully, Aimee Mann's solo stuff is nothing like her old band. :P
- Joe The Sausage
Joe and LAG, I don't know... he is a strange character to place musically, but the songs I listed above are all excellent and relevant not just for their place in hip-hop history. May want to track them down and give them another listen. "6 in the Morning" (1987) is also the first gangsta rap epic as far as I know (along with Schooly D's early singles). On the flip side, his music has pretty much sucked since the dawn of the 90's.
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
I just love how this became about who's still relevant. I mean they're both a couple of 50 year olds who last charted over a decade ago.
- Rob H.
:P I did say she was still hot!
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
she's also become a fantastic songwriter and performer over the years. initially i was a hater, but i was won over eventually.
- Joe The Sausage
the dawn of the 90s was 20 years ago! ...which, coincidentally, is also when Aimee Mann STOPPED sucking. :D
- Joe The Sausage
additionally, Aimee Mann played the nihilist girlfriend who sacrificed her big toe for the attempted kidnapping con in "The Big Lebowski".
- Joe The Sausage
Ice-T is a legend, but he has always been one to hit back quick. He was the target of a lot of big shots (read George Bush 41). It doesn't surprise me that he's still doing it to any and everybody who spits his name wrong. It's just how he is.
- Eric
Ice-T is an ass.
- Joe The Sausage
That's fine and good, but the point is no matter what she does in her remaining days, she will never approach the musical and cultural influence Ice-T has had. Also, don't forget Ice-T's formative battles against the PMRC in the early 90's!
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
whatever. *hides thread cos he's done with it*
- Joe The Sausage
Adrian... I'll give the tracks a listen (searching now), because I'm not recalling any quality Ice-T jams—and yet I remember him, no problem—he does have a talent for staying in the limelight
- .LAG liked that
Ice-T is like Mr. T and may eventually turn into a Chuck Norris or HOFF. Him and his nut jobby wife CoCo haha
- Mona Nomura
Joe, :P
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
Look in the old school rap room and search on Ice-T!
- Eric
What?! There's an old skool rap room?!
- Mona Nomura
So much good stuff, you could get lost for days.
- Eric
And ironically enough just had an Ice-T retrospective.
- TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
...ok, as I listen to some of these, it brings back memories of watching Ed Lover and Dr. Dre (the other one) on Yo MTV Raps! Ice-T is forgettable as a rapper ...especially when you think about who else was at the top at the time of his greatest success: Rakim, Public Enemy, KRS-One, NWA, EPMD, just to name a few—all far, far, far superior to him as performers, writers, storytellers...you name it.
- .LAG liked that
Rakim <3
- Mona Nomura
Mona ...IMHO: Rakim = best rapper ever
- .LAG liked that
I don't think you can always place them in that way. Sure there are much more lyrical rappers. There is a time and place in the history sometimes, and Ice-T holds a special place as a West Coast pioneer, as one who had to take on the top of the establishment, and one who was an independent and helped other artists early on. I enjoyed his first four albums quite a bit.
- Eric
Cosigning with Eric. I love PE, Rakim, EPMD, etc., but comparing them to Ice-T is apples to oranges. Ice-T was clearly known for this personality, not so much his lyrical prowess. And he fell off a LOT after say, Power.
- Derrick
Ever?? He was, at the top of his game but sadly the man hasn't evolved... :( I've had MANY arguments about top five and tens but if I factor in everything, 1. Eminem 2. Hov 3. B.I.G. 4. Pac and 5. is always switching from Common, Kanye, Big Daddy Kane, Method Man, Luda or Nas.
- Mona Nomura
Eric ...I'm not denying Ice-T his place in the history of the genre. He gets a big seat at a table in the room, but maybe for him, it's a "lifetime achievement" award: he started some things, he opened some doors, he lasted a long time, he crossed over to mainstream... but he can't sit at the "artists" table during this awards ceremony, because he's really more a personality and an impresario
- .LAG liked that
WORD.
- Mona Nomura
...so I guess we all agree: Ice-T is big part of Hip Hop, just not a performer ...sorta like Diddy and that ilk
- .LAG liked that
OK, I can't argue with that. Ice-T blazed a trail for acting and business for sure. Brought the gangsta rap to the forefront. But I agree on straight lyricism.
- Eric
I knew a couple New York cats who couldn't stand Ice-T. lol. I always liked him for the stories and vivid videos.
- Eric
Diddy? No.
- Derrick
Diddy has his place. Other people write some great club hits for him.
- Eric
Hey, I like Diddy, er...I did, I just don't see the comparison. Anyway, INTERESTING THREAD.
- Derrick
...I threw out Diddy in reference to the crossover appeal. to jump from music into TV, films and make it stick is hard. Ice-T has been in films, and he's on a hit TV show. Diddy had his reality show, been in a few movies...maybe not a good comparision. Maybe LL Cool J... I don't know, i'm just being silly as ever now. ;)
- .LAG liked that
HA, in her "apology" she called him "Mr. T"! This thread was worth reading just to find out about the old school rap room :)
- Lo the Baker
Or Queen Latifah
- .LAG liked that
I'd make the comparison to LL more than Diddy. PD is more management and style.
- Eric
Lo... good point: I'm subbed to the old school room now...
- .LAG liked that
If your product is Great, it doesn't need to be Good. - http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2010...
אלף, Tom Stocky, kuchin and 86 other people liked this
Totally agree with this.
- Guy Vander Heyden
I agree, but those three well-executed features need to be done in the context of marketing/sales magic, otherwise the product won't take off. GMail by all rights should be the dominant email client today, or at least every other surviving email client should have copied the conversation view from GMail. FriendFeed should be bigger than Twitter. I'll admit that twitter got the "few things" part, but I don't think they won based on doing those few things well.
- Bruce Lewis
Gmail is getting there. It has already passed all of the other webmail systems -- they just don't realize it yet. iPhone is similar in that it hasn't won in absolute numbers yet, but it's the winner nevertheless. FriendFeed is a topic for another day.
- Paul Buchheit
"At the office, maybe we'll finally have an easy way of chatting with remote people while discussing a presentation or document (e.g. audio iChat with a shared display)." Wouldn't that be nice?
- Benjamin Golub
Gmail is getting there, and will eventually get there, but it has Google associated with it. Smaller products with weaker brands have a lot more trouble. There's already a tablet out that uses multi-touch to enable multi-player games, for example. Do you know what it's called? I don't; I just happened to see it.
- Bruce Lewis
There's no question that brand matters, and it would be difficult for anyone other than Apple and maybe G or M to successfully launch the iPad. You have to pick a strategy that works given the resources you have. Also, I bet that other tablet isn't actually good (clunky to use).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, it helps me to hear you say there's no question that brand matters. Your essays really resonate with me, and when I read this one my first inclination is to run off and refine my core features. But refined features only bring new users if you've got the sales/marketing thing figured out.
- Bruce Lewis
Not every game is winnable Bruce. I wouldn't try taking on Apple and Google for the cell phone market, for example. Google succeeded in large part because nobody else realized that search was important.
- Paul Buchheit
"if the basic product isn't compelling, adding more features won't save it."
- Clare Dibble
Fantastic, Paul.
- Bruce Johnson
from BuddyFeed
Bruce, exactly. Especially since we're all seduced by the idea that on the web, we want to scale virally. In this conversation, we're talking about competing with Apple and Google. Do you have a particular target audience you could to go after first? Maybe dominate a given market segment - a niche or a subculture by focusing on something that's just for them, then grow into other niches...
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- Auntie Buttinsky Botts
Paul thanks for an enlightening article. How would you define winning? Can you win the game and still be a loser, for example MySpace won but could not sustain itself?
- Shakeel Mahate
Hold that thought, Mary. I'd really like to talk about it, but I don't want to hijack the discussion any more than I have already. Paul has a great post here about what does and (just as important) doesn't constitute a great product. Now that it's established that brand, etc. matters, I'm happy to stay on topic.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm glad you address the different strategy implicit in developing gmail within Google. An independent startup trying to design a product doesn't have the brand or the support resources that something like gmail did (to Google's credit) will likely need to look at product design in a more holistic way. This isn't a direct criticism of you, Paul, but we like to boil down the product...
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- mikepk
I agree with your premise though, having lived through the experience of building a 'good' product that wasn't 'great'. We did a lot of things wrong with the "Grazr product" from Grazr. First and foremost in my mind was not focusing on the core elements and adding hundreds of features that just made the thing a confusing mess. We needed a benevolent dictator and I wasn't in the position to be that person.
- mikepk
So by this logic trying to turn Gmail into twitter will probably fail? Something like trying to turn Greader into a social network? One you take the care to identify the essential attributes that make something great, bolting on more attributes to make it something else doesn't seem a good idea.
- Todd Hoff
Great article, Paul!
- Space Cowboy
The amusing thing to me is that -to this day-, iPod haters still focus on the features it lacks.
- Andrew C (✓)
If your product is a fashion accessory, it doesn't need to be good.
- Gabe
People will buy all kinds of crap for the latest fashion accessory.
- Gabe
don't you have to be good at some point before you can iterate to be great?
- David Tran
Dan: Paul's thesis is that you can start out at great and then iterate to be good.
- Gabe
More seriously, Paul is using "great" to mean something nearly orthogonal to "good", rather than being "like 'good', but better".
- Andrew C (✓)
from Android
"Great" in this essay means it has features that are novel or way better executed than the norm. "Good" means achieving the norm for feature-completeness.
- Bruce Lewis
"Great" is a discontinuity. The iPhone is a good example because there was really nothing like it before, so it didn't matter that it was lacking some obvious features like copy&paste.
- Paul Buchheit
ola Paul, you know about anything in this situation? -> http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Sets Turan
Well, now, hold on. On paper, there were phones that did most of the things iPhones did, even maps and youtube. The app potential wasn't even a huge selling point for the first year or so if I remember right; it was more that it had a browser that really worked. (and even then, there were other smartphones out there... people just didn't really write apps for them, not nearly on the iPhone's scale.)
- Andrew C (✓)
Please direct your Turkey comments to http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Paul Buchheit
Andrew, I tried those phones, and they were all bad. Having features isn't good enough -- they need to actually work. iPhone was the first phone with browser that worked, maps that work, etc.
- Paul Buchheit
Fair enough!
- Andrew C (✓)
MaryB, about that thought I asked you to hold, there's a place for it now if you please: http://friendfeed.com/brlewis...
- Bruce Lewis
Bing learns the difficulty of the 140 char limit, LOL - http://twitter.com/bing...
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"Still looking for the perfect VD gift? You are not alone, the Victoria Secret Bombshells give their VD advice http://cot.ag/9SOtkV ^KM"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
<facepalm>
- Andrew Terry
hahaha, that's great
- Chieze Okoye
you heard it here first: bing has VD fever and wants to spread it!
- Vezquex
VD=Valentines Day. LOOOOOLLL ... wait ... that's not it right?
- Robert Sanchez Jr
I never had any thoughts other than VD meaning Valentines Day
- TrafficBug
The more I use Buzz, the more I see how flippin' genius FriendFeed is -- jumping Google groupie bandwagon to the FFFounder wagon. #choochoo
Michael Fidler, Zu from AOD, Mitchell Tsai and 67 other people liked this
Seriously, what other service has a comparable HIDE function?
- Mona Nomura
Yup.
- Shey
Mona PERFECT you're here! Do you have any suggestions for Spidra's FriendFeed feedback thread going on right now?
- The Real sofarsoShawn
The more I use other FriendFeed like services, the more in love I fall with FF -- I really don't have any complaints (except please hide my comment and like count since I am a TOTAL power user and it's embarrassing!!)
- Mona Nomura
And the congregation said: "Amen!" :)
- Melanie Reed
Buzz will succeed, it's Google. Better services don't count. Google is Microsoft on teh interwebs all over again.
- ˈpɛbə
I am sure it will -- heck, I am the biggest Google fan girl -- but my point is not who is going to kill what, it was just an observation about how advanced FriendFeed is. Can't begin to fathom the complexity behind the options provided to us (users.)
- Mona Nomura
Buzz is not a FF-killer.
- Joe The Sausage
I'm with you Mona. I want to take this time to thank Google for increasing my appreciation for Friendfeed. Still, this might just be a knee-jerk reaction. Maybe I'll change my mind 2 weeks from now when I'm more comfortable with these new shoes.
- Kevin Sablan
Ya -- still haven't had the chance to fully play and customize it. Does anyone know if deleting a notification email deletes / mute threads? My inbox is kinda clogged lol.
- Mona Nomura
I am not switching to gmail so I can "buzz". I hate these kinds of consumer lock-in. And google is already too dominant.
- ˈpɛbə
+1 Peter [for comment making connection to Microsoft all over again.] C.S. Lewis was right. Seen it happen too many times in my lifetime. An org starts out with a good idea but sooner or later, evil creams to the top.
- Melanie Reed
This coupled with their ISP support in the future is making this all rather undesirable.
- Melanie Reed
Sadly, convenience can be perceived as 'world domination' -- I love how conversations can be emailed, then uploaded to Google Docs via email if need be. Files can also be attached. Conversations can also be tracked via permalink, too. Pretty neat.
- Mona Nomura
So much cleaner over here, easier to manage.
- Jesse Stay
I think once I learn how to efficiently search, Buzz will be useful.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, we use the Google line for our org and have for sometime. and I like that convenience. But we are beginning to see little things that are very controlling from inside that Google is doing.
- Melanie Reed
Privacy isn't that big of a concern to me -- as long as extremely personal information is kept private. And not to defend or back the controlling things you see Google is doing, but when a company is as big and dominant as Google, there are measures needed to ensure quality control (imho.)
- Mona Nomura
Mona who knew you were such an exhibitionist! HOT
- The Real sofarsoShawn
It may sound irresponsible or careless, but what other service has Google quality? For example, I can go back 15...even 20 pages back on a Google search and still find relevant search results. Other than its amazing algo, super strict SEO rules, and of course all the products, Google to me, is about convenience and not "evil" as people say.
- Mona Nomura
Oh that's pretty funny -- my eyes automatically differentiate Inbox count with Buzz count. Who can miss that heinous multi-colored speech bubble? LOL.
- Mona Nomura
I'm actually using FF for the community and to hang, Buzz for knowledge. Also, I am a total Internet power user so my eyes are trained to exercise selective seeing. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona = total Internet power user
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Mona you have the momentum of a runaway freight train is there anything stop you!!! ANYTHING ?!!?! No way rockstar! Yours truly, cupcake <3
- The Real sofarsoShawn
FF is light years of anything out there but still too hard to learn took me over 18 months to grasp and I'm not that thick ... well some would say so
- Thomas Power
I need to take a few seconds aside later to fully learn and explore Buzz -- still having problems (probably a personal problem.)
- Mona Nomura
Devices - Shiny Devices - http://shinydevices.com/devices
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"See those two screws at the bottom of the picture? If you connect those screws to a switch of some kind, and plug the whole thing into the USB port of a computer, the switch will act as a one-key keyboard. This one happens to be an Enter key."
- ⓞnor
from Bookmarklet
$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)
- Paul Buchheit
It sure is pretty though
- Jesse Stay
surely this could be done more inexpensively with an atmel or pic with usb
- joshua schachter
Or the guts from an old mouse.
- Ken Sheppardson
This is an elaborate AFD joke by Jacques, right? (Edit: by "joke", I mean I wouldn't be surprised if the description is accurate, but kind of underpromises what it can do.)
- Andrew C (✓)
Wow, he got shinydevices.com? That's a pretty good domain! Also, this device is way, way prettier than I expected. I'm really impressed by how pretty it is.
- niniane
It is kind of pretty. Who is making these?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: When I first read "$33 for a 1 key keyboard? (minus the actual key)", I thought you were talking about an actual Apple product.
- Gabe
^^^^ like :)
- A. T.
@Gabe :D
- Jemm
Having a real "any" key is probably totally worth it.
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Dan was kind enough to manufacture the plastic casing pictured. It is indeed prettier than I had expected!
- Jacques Frechet
I've been thinking about hacking up a cheap USB keyboard (a la http://www.instructables.com/id... ) for a project. This device looks like it'd be easier, prettier, and possibly smaller, but $33 does seem a bit steep considering the fact that USB keyboards can be found for less than $10, and it sounds like I'd need several of these if I want to control multiple keys.
- Laurence Gonsalves
What's the project, OOC?
- ⓞnor
I was just thinking to make pedals for modifier keys, particularly shift and maybe also control, possibly starting with piano-style pedals like these: http://www.sweetwater.com/store...
- Laurence Gonsalves
How 'bout starting with some USB dictation transcription pedals?
- Ken Sheppardson
I hadn't heard of those before. Thanks. From my searches, it looks like they're for "rewind", "play/pause" and "fast-forward". I'm guessing there are special keycodes for those? I could probably remap them to the keys I want with software, but it'd be nice if they could be more "plug-and-play" (so I could move the device between machines without having to set up mappings). Do you know if any of these transcription pedals are configurable through hardware (eg: dip switches)?
- Laurence Gonsalves
BTW: I've actually seen a few companies that made exactly what I'm looking for, but they all seem to be discontinued. This page has a bunch of links: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea...
- Laurence Gonsalves
Laurence: I'm afraid all I know about them is that they exist. Sorry.
- Ken Sheppardson
Laurence: have you seen this? http://www.piengineering.com/custom...
- Gabe
...or to cut out a whole lot of work: http://www.piengineering.com/xkeys...
- Ken Sheppardson
Those products from piengineering look good. A bit pricey ($119.95 for what is effectively a 3-key keyboard) but they seem to be programmable, and I guess economies of scale work against them.
- Laurence Gonsalves
If you keep increasing the pricetag you'll reach the Optimus 3 Mini, the 3-key keyboard with separate LCD screens for each key. $179.95.
- Amit Patel
Amit, I think the Optimus 3 uses OLED screens, not LCD. Presumably that's why they're so expensive.
- Gabe
The impressive part about those devices seems to be the reprogramming of the device ROM via USB directly from this web page http://shinydevices.com/setting... (check the source)
- Thomas Amberg
Because it was needed: FriendFeed gets the Downfall treatment. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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testbeta, Brian Chang, Dan Hsiao and 95 other people liked this
Hitler, holed up in his bunker, just found out about FriendFeed's acquisition by Facebook. He's not very happy about it. (Thanks to Matt Mastracci for the idea!)
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
Wonderful! Great work!!
- Peter
awesome job...
- Gus
Thanks, guys. I couldn't have done it without feeling, at a base level, what's lampooned in the video. :-P
- Mark Trapp
I could see that coming...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"we still got Plurk" *COL* great stuff Mark
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
BRILLIANT.
- abacab
It's hilarious because right at the end when the text is about him going back to Twitter, he's actually talking about putting a bullet in his head.
- abacab
Oh man, that was entirely unintentional, too. I don't think I've ever seen the original subtitles.
- Mark Trapp
Haven't laughed this hard in a looooong time.
- Ginger Makela Riker
epic mark "i even remember what it was like before scoble got here" - me too, good times :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
That was better than I could have imagined.
- Matt M (inactive)
OMG I laughed so hard I cried. Well done sir!
- Mark Krynsky
Well done. and all this time I figured you had no idea who the FFundercats were. Well done! I made all the parallels easily.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
"That is bullshit. I've been a member since the site went public!" - Hilarious! :D
- Meryn Stol
"Don't worry, we still have Plurk." - too funny.
- Meryn Stol
That is f'ing fabulous. Thanks for making me laugh instead of cry.
- Larry Hawes
Too funny! I did wonder if I was going to cry but I managed to make it to the end without losing it. Too bad I can't share this with anyone IRL.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
funny and sad at the same time. only peeps who have been here for the last 2+ years can totally relate. :(
- AJ Batac :)
WHY DOES THAT FAT KID KEEP SHOWING UP IN MY FEED?!#~
- Akiva
What's so funny is I've seen this hitler remix so many times, but I've never seen the real movie it's based on, it will be interesting to see how I'll perceive it.
- Ray Cromwell
the real movie is good
- mike "glemak" dunn
I just saw this on TechCrunch, neat. My favorite comment: "not original - stolen from this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... this was posted a few months back after the Blue Bulls won the S14 Rugby championship (Southern hemispheres champions league (soccer equivalent) rugby" http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Thanks for putting that together--that was really cool.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Daniel: the TechCrunch comments are great; a community of Buzz Killingtons. Everyone's a historian!
- Mark Trapp
Great work Mark! So many great references.
- Mike Doeff
that was awesome. FFundercats MOW hilarious
- Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Mark, this is great... Unfortunately after seeing this I am beginning to feel a bit bummed
- Bindu Reddy
Very funny! I think I got most of it, but *alas* I don't know who/what the "Fat Kid" deal was. I must've missed that phase of FF.
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
Mark: consider yourself lucky. If you really want to know, it's this: http://friendfeed.com/akiva... People have been bumping it for months.
- Mark Trapp
Oh...THAT fat kid. Yes, I'm sorry I asked!
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
I had to go immediately to the pic of Phoebe Cates... I just had to! http://friendfeed.com/mvanden...
- Mark J Colonel Colonic
Mark has actually found the silver lining: NONE of us will ever have to see that fat kid again. ;)
- John Craft
AWESOME! Truly awesome.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
That's what you think, John. Sean Haggis has already posted it to Facebook.
- Akiva
I love this so much- great job
- anna sauce
Really well written, and the timing is great.
- anna sauce
This is awesome! Very well written. :-D
- John (bird whisperer)
Mark, you did this? Very creative and funny.
- Myrna
..especially the plurk comment but only people who used plurk and left would get that one.
- Myrna
Myrna: yes I did. Thanks guys for all the great comments: had no idea this would blow up this big.
- Mark Trapp
Almost 16k views already! Nice! :)
- Michael McKean
Clearly an ironic MOW on your behalf.
- Pete D
Classic!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Really well done. Good work.
- Jordan Brock
I'll wait for the Techno Viking remix.
- Andrew Leyden
Thank you for expressing our global angst.
- Robert Miller
Mark let me also say that this is the best thing I've seen in ages. Very well done!
- Andre P. Siregar
Great work Mark
- Mitch
Never thought I'd say this, but... I agree with Hitler. Well done.
- Lo the Baker
like like like like like
- anna sauce
I just realized that you were the assembler of this video. VERY good!
- John E. Bredehoft
Why China Can't Create Brands | Newsweek Business | Newsweek.com - http://www.newsweek.com/id...
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"Huawei may be the best company you've never heard of, and that's a big problem for China. Founded in 1988 by a former People's Liberation Army officer with less than $4,000 in startup capital, Huawei has grown from a small importer into a growing giant—revenue rose 43 percent last year to more than $18 billion—now poised to overtake Nokia Siemens as the world's second-largest maker of telecom hardware, after Ericsson. Even a decade ago, China watchers were touting Huawei as one of the companies most likely to become China's first big global brand. Its headquarters in booming Shenzhen look like a Silicon Valley transplant, with high-tech laboratories, manicured lawns, and staff swimming pools. It made BusinessWeek's latest list of the world's 10 "most influential" companies, alongside Apple, Wal-Mart, Toyota, and Google. Yet Huawei is by far the least internationally recognizable name on the list...."
- Rebecca MacKinnon
Google should offer a SecurID (or similar) option on all accounts, and as a domain policy on apps-for-your-domain. I would definitely pay to get this.
Umakanthan Chandran, Brian Kenyon, Angus Burton and 122 other people liked this
E-trade offers them for $25 https://us.etrade.com/e.... The way it works is that this keychain thing spits out a new number every minute, and you include that number with your password at login. Even if someone gets your password (due to a keylogger or the like), it will quickly be invalid.
- Paul Buchheit
Paypal offers them for 5$
- John Blanton
Wells Fargo sent me one for a business account (free with the package).
- Michael Herf
Blizzard (Warcraft etc.) offers them for $6.50 (except they're sold out currently -- http://www.blizzard.com/store...), or free as an app on the iPhone.
- Stephen Mack
Blizzard almost never has them in stock. Whenever they get a batch they sell out in a few hours. Apparently they work. lol
- <3Heather<3
I do not know how reliable they are now but a few years ago, the quartz in this would get out of sync for a non trivial percentage of users, which resulted in a lot of customer support issues.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
bought one for the hubby's warcraft account. he hasn't been hacked since. (nearly once every couple weeks prior to that)
- Nathalie
What would keep someone from writing this as an iPhone/Android app?
- Matt Cutts
It would need to hook into the Google auth system Matt. (or automatically change my password every minute, which would probably trigger some abuse system inside google)
- Paul Buchheit
Matt: Nothing, as demonstrated by Blizzard's implementation of it as a free iPhone app already. :)
- Stephen Mack
I wish this could end phishing, but it can't, because "it will quickly be invalid" doesn't help much if it's used to generate a session token the very moment it's entered. Perhaps the key should ask you what OS/browser you're using, how recently you logged in on that machine, etc. -- facts known to Google and associated with your browser session -- and generate different numbers depending on your answers. Tricky business.
- Daniel Dulitz
It doesn't solve all problems Daniel, but it does solve some. The twitter hack for example was apparently due to a guessed password or something (though I'm not up-to-date on the news, so maybe that's no longer the story).
- Paul Buchheit
Frankly, I want an RFID-like chip in my cell phone + ubiquitous RFID readers. The cell phone would also require you to type a password or PIN, so it's something you have + something you know. And there's a fake PIN that looks like it worked but causes a lockdown behind the scenes, so if you get mugged you tell people the PIN is 5555 when your PIN is really 2343.
- Matt Cutts
Paul, it's just a lot easier to make this happen if it solves the _biggest_ problem. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
I think the biggest problem is that people want absolute convenience and absolute security. I have never had any personal information stolen or accounts hacked. It might be because I'm a boring person not worth stealing from, but it could also be that I don't put information all over the place. I only use my phone to make calls, I only download from well known sites, I don't allow porn...
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- <3Heather<3
I disagree with that reasoning Daniel. The phishing problem is real, but today's Twitter problem for example does not appear to have been phishing related, and probably would have been prevented by a device such as this -- is that not sufficient evidence that this solvable problem is worth solving? It also prevents people from using bad passwords, using the same password on multiple accounts, etc, which is very useful in the apps-for-your-domain context.
- Paul Buchheit
As soon as PayPal offered theirs I bought it immediately and like many others, I'm in line to get one for our two WoW accounts. I loved these as a Systems Admin where we required them to get past the firewalls if you were a remote worker.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
+1 Paul, I've been a SecureID user many years at work, and with ETrade, so I've got two, so far, but it makes you wonder if every account you used required SecureID, you'll eventually need a REALLY BIG keychain. ;)
- .LAG liked that
There is no reason why the same SecureID fob can't be used with more than one site.
- jho
Matt Cutts: BlackBerry (maybe only BES) has had "password under duress" for a while. When enabled you swap the first and last characters of your handset password, it unlocks but also triggers admin side alerts. Quite cool, but I suspect the only people that use it will be the military :)
- Alex Lomas
jh: yeah, RSA should probably offer this as a service; get one SecurID from them, and you can register it with any site that supports it.
- Tudor Bosman
Paul, no, I don't think the fact that some hacks would be prevented by a method is sufficient reason to implement that method. Apps has supported SAML for quite a while, see http://code.google.com/apis... , so Apps admins can use auth methods of their choice including this one. If I'm going to take your $25 for a token, I'd like to make it more...
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- Daniel Dulitz
@jh, @Tudor: yeah it would be great if one SecureID could service multiple accounts for the owner, but i think each key fob is unique to the account holder and service they're issued for; some foreknowledge of the site/account the fobs will be used for is required. with the one I use at work, I signed some paperwork, sent it to Tech, and then got the fob few days later. Sounds like a potential customer-service nightmare for RSA if they when that route.
- .LAG liked that
They'd probably pick up more paid accounts. Just the concept would probably convince numerous new users.
- Charlie Anzman
Great idea! It's also a great way of branding the name if it's on a key chain of something else cool. Verisign offers it as a second layer of security on their OpenID accounts. They were charging before, but I just checked and it's free now. I'll have to get it for my account. Two-factor identification should be standard everywhere, especially on bank accounts.
- Michael Fidler
I'm waiting for Google to handle all my Internet passwords, all encrypted behind a master Google accounts password and a security calculator/keychain type of mechanism. I wouldn't perhaps need to use that physical extra security code each time I log in. It could be set to once a day, and secure login can be reset at any time during the day (if you don't feel confortable using public web terminal at a netcafe, you can simply activate secure login for any activity done after you logout.
- Charbax
Also, I believe Google should easily show me a complete log of all activities on my Google account, this way I could find out if something fishy is going on. If one is paranoid while using a public terminal, there should be a "monitor in realtime all activity" window so you can see if anything weird is going on while you are logged in and you should imediately be able to cancel/restore/logout in realtime once any of that fishy activity has been detected.
- Charbax
HELL YES.
- Zee.
For $25 -- that's worth the peace of mind.
- CarolAnnB
Matt, regarding RFID: I've seen applications using bluetooth for a similar purpose. If a specific phone comes within range, the computer unlocks/wakes up/launches the missiles/etc. I'm not sure that RFID adds much, though I'm unfamiliar with how easy it is to spoof the identity of either bluetooth or RFID.
- DGentry
in case you weren't aware, there are other options for SecurID other than the fob - like the mobile app http://www.rsa.com/node... or software token (RSA is an EMC company, my employer)
- Stuart Miniman
I have my paypal key, I feel secure because of it. And it only cost me $5.
- Luis
See Arcot's integration with Google Apps: http://arcot.com/product...
- Scott Loftesness
跟我们公司的只是圆形图案不一样…………
- 疯狂的糯米
Mark - RSA is doing this now, see http://www.rsa.com/node...
- Stuart Miniman
@Charbax: Gmail (and possibly other apps?) does show you when someone else is logged in at the same time as you are, as well as their IP. Not precisely what you're suggesting, but is still quite helpful.
- Joel Webber
surprised these things are still popular. Years ago we used them at GE and perhaps they still do... But wouldn't it be more convenient to add a dynamic part to a password with a question like your wife's age + XX, or day first child was born + XX or year this picture was taken + XX. The variation of lets say 5 questions plus a random addition or subtraction would add enough variation and security no ? curious to see this your comments.
- Bart LePoole
I have the Paypal one, and one for my BofA account. I would definitely get one for Google and for my Amazon account. *HINT*
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
Why would I want one for every account? Why can't I use the same one for all my accounts?
- Gabe
paul, that's a great idea for a start-up (btw user should have *one* item for all accounts)
- Massimo MaxKava Cavazzini
The quirky genius of the Dos Equis ad campaign. - Slate Magazine - http://www.slate.com/id...
Iván Abrego, Adewale Oshineye, LarchOye and 19 other people liked this
"Grainy footage of outrageous exploits (bench-pressing Asian women, splashing down in a space capsule, performing trick billiards shots for turbaned companions) is accompanied by a sequence of boastful one-liners: "The police often question him just because they find him interesting," "His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man's entire body," "His blood smells like cologne.""
- Casey Muller
from Bookmarklet
I love these commercials, I can't believe he only gave them a B+
- Casey Muller
Yeah, these commercials are great.
- Ross Miller
My favorite beer ads, althou never had a bottle of Dos Equis
- 我是真砂！
trivia: The Most Interesting Man in the World played the guy the guy guys were trying to break out of custody in Die Hard 2.
- Andy Bakun
"Most Interesting Doctor in World Warns 'Staying Thirsty' Could be Sign of Diabetes, Recommends Vicodin Over Beer"
- Karim
Google's index of Wolfram|Alpha search results - http://www.google.com/#q=site...
Tony Ruscoe, Atul Arora and Shaw liked this
they have no robots.txt at all; Google isn't parsing their Javascript, so Google can only see what's served statically from their results
- Andy Baio
Used Super Telephoto 1200mm f/5.6L EF USM - only $120k! - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c...
Rick Bucich, Scoble, Alex Scoble, David Foucher and 6 other people liked this
The Canon 1200/5.6L USM, the longest fixed telephoto lens ever built by Canon, contains 13 elements (2 Fluorite) in 10 groups and focuses down to 49.5'. With an angle-of- view of about 2° on a full-frame 35 mm camera, calling this lens a 'tele' is like calling King Kong a monkey.
- Gabe
from Bookmarklet
I guess you guys can get us that one
- Becca
You might have trouble lifting it, Becca.
- Gabe
Would I be able to see stars and nebulas with it?
- Becca
On a Rebel XSi each pixel would be 1 arcsecond, which would give decent resolution on some nebulae. You'd be able to get awesome shots of the moon -- if you could keep it in frame.
- Gabe
Sample photos here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c...
- Gabe
36 lbs? I could totally lift that
- Becca
You may be able to lift it, but good luck getting it on the tripod. http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews...
- Gabe
"The new EF 1200 was then marketed by Canon in July, 1993 with an annual production volume of around 2 (that's right - "two") lenses. The EF 1200 L was available by special order with lead times running about 18 months. Why such a long lead time? For one reason, it takes nearly a year to grow fluorite crystals large enough to be ground and polished for use in this lens."
- bob
I was just wondering about telephoto lenses today -- a few people at the park had them, though probably not this one (they were hand held, for one).
- Paul Buchheit
The term 'telephoto' really just refers to the lens being shorter than its focal length.
- Gabe
We added a 1-click login for Twitter users, so now it's easy for all your friends to try http://friendfeed.com
حُسین آفلاینـ, Mehmet John Doguelli, John (bird whisperer) and 394 other people liked this
To RT, click http://twitter.com/home... It uses OAuth, so no password is required, and it automatically finds your Twitter friends on FriendFeed! It also imports your profile and picture. Big thanks to http://friendfeed.com/bgolub for making all this happen! (also, existing users can go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends)
- Paul Buchheit
fan bloody tastic! So we can post here and Twitterers can comment away without any complaints! The only think you need to try and do is bring in comments (about a share) from twitter into here! :)
- Zee.
This is great...should help new users quite a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
Bravo!!! Very nice!
- David Cook
nice
- Joe Azzara
thanks for making it effortless
- Vedran Agovic
That's fantastic! Keep it up guys!! :)
- iTad
I'm hoping this will help to entice people over here. I'd much rather talk to people via FF than Twitter
- WoH: Minding her Steves
FrF + OAuth. Like.
- tobe
Refresh your FriendFeed to see an updated first comment from Paul, including a link to RT this news: http://twitter.com/home...
- Dan Hsiao
OK, I admit I'm dense. As an existing user will this help me find the folks I follow on Twitter?
- Laura Norvig
Cool, is it possible we could have the ability to bulk import or non-FF Twitter friends as private feeds so we can track them in FF? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Laura, existing FriendFeed users should just go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... and click on the Twittter (and Facebook and Google) icons to find their friends. Kol, not yet, but I'm hoping to add something like that soon (improved imaginary friends).
- Paul Buchheit
Thx, Paul - guess I haven't been to that page since the launch. btw, I'm definitely coming around to the new friendfeed (colors notwithstanding).
- Laura Norvig
Great to see the standards working -OAuth fro Gogole and Twitter login on Friendfeed
- Kevin Marks
That's a great tool, Paul! Found a few from Twitter and Facebook I didn't realise were on FF...:)
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Oh man, that is suh-weet. Works really well.
- Laura Norvig
Paul, that would be wonderful, thank you. I'm keen to use FF as a kinda Twitter client. I'd love the ability to import my group I've created on Tweetvisor too but that would additionally require exporting facilities from Tweetvisor, and from asking them they've told me it's low priority (which is fair enough).
- Kol Tregaskes
That's fantastic! Sharing with all of my not-yet-friendfeedified twitter friends. Thanks, Paul!
- Eric Johnson
This IS good. Thanks for the hard work, Benjamin Golub.
- Micah
this is fabulous!!!
- Angela P.
It's so convenient for new comer like me!
- tsssimon
Just tried it and it works great.
- Iván Abrego
i have tried this too and am richer by 33 Twitter friends
- jagannath rao
Nice work. Keeps getting better around here :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
WOW! 313 new Twitter people! Amazing what the OAuth did. Amazing. That just completely Rocks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That was just too easy, and found a bunch of Twitter people. I just subscribed, but I hope they participate. I'm sure I'll have to trim later.
- Eric
Thanks for everything Benjamin and the others, that is really great. :)
- Alp
I was subscribed to exactly 100 of the people I follow on Twitter. Added 93 more. Funny, this is actually helping me find people I *don't* want to follow in either place.
- Laura Norvig
I'm looking forward to the "advanced imaginary friends" section which lets me as an existing FriendFeed user view all the twitter updates from people that don't use FriendFeed.
- Brian Sloane
很好，继续努力
- Kunshou（困兽）
Sweet!
- Don Strickland
Just posted this to my stream then saw this, Cool stuff Paul
- Charlie Anzman
Some time ago I spent lots of time in removing my Facebook-Friendfeed integration, and didn't succeed, Facebook refused to remove it. Since that - no info about any other my services to Facebook, ever.
- orie
Happy to hear that there will be an improved imaginary friend option!
- Jacob
The improved imaginary friend feature will be great. No need to visit Twitter much then!
- Pinksy
FriendFeed is constantly bringing new value to the service. I'm loving it!
- Amie Gillingham
its relay cool
- Kaspar Minosiants
great idea
- andy brudtkuhl
Oh Thanks i was looking for something like this
- Asahi
Is the imaginary friends feature completely disabled for the moment? Or am I just not looking in the right place?
- Mark Jacobs
Mark: imaginary friends have been replaced by groups.
- Robert Scoble
When is OpenID coming up?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
This feature is AWESOME :) Bravo!
- Iain Baker
I just imported 8,000 new Twitter friends. Worked MUCH BETTER than last time.
- Robert Scoble
Smart move guys. A quick way to grow FF users is to tap into the current hot properties. Can't believe other Social Networks are so slow to respond.
- Neill Adamson
Paul, is there a way to sync it so that people I no longer follow on Twitter are unfollowed on FriendFeed?
- Jorge Escobar
Great news on the advanced imaginary friends. That plus the ability to comment back to Facebook posts as easily as we reply to Twitter would be killer.
- Kevin Kuphal
Finally! :-)
- Richard Joerges
Not sure why this wasn't implemented a while ago but it's a welcome addition.
- Jason Williams
None of my Facebook contacts are on ff.
- JECO Photo
So how do existing FF members use it?
- Tiffany Monhollon
Ca passe 50 fois par jour ce truc là sur FriendFeed ! C''est pas possible d'arr^ter, j'en ai marre de le voir franchement ... ^^
- Jean-Marie Gall™
from twhirl
Tiffany, existing FF members should go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find their Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends.
- Paul Buchheit
Encore ?? C'est pas possible ! ;(
- Jean-Marie Gall™
from twhirl
RT'd ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Robert cannot seem to do that with groups. What I want to do: Concentrate different RSS feeds (e.g. newswires) which do not necessarily have an account in any other social network into one imaginary friend's collection of feeds.
- Mark Jacobs
Mark, "groups" (formerly "rooms") are able to import feeds just like regular users (and imaginary friends). See https://friendfeed.com/xoogle-... for example (imports the blogs of all known xoogle startups). The only thing special about imaginary friends is that they don't have usernames (or rather we assign a random 128 bit username).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, the DM option on imaginary friends should perhaps be removed. Also, imaginary friends do not show up on the search dropdown list when you type in their name in the search box.
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul, is it possible to automatically create "imaginary friends" from twitter following list? What I would like is to read all my Twitter in FriendFeed; many of twitterers though are not on FF, so I have to create them by hand which is tedious. Also, it would be nice to allow to add them to some special list.
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar, see my comment up in the middle and Paul's reply. Looks like FF are working on it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice tool, discovered some more contacts !
- François Granger
love this guys wonderful
- Thomas Power
This must be the reason for all the new follows I've been getting over the last few days. Congrats!
- Michael Fidler
That's actually quite useful. Thank you!
- snapixel
Still would like an imaginary friend than making bunch of Groups to simulate peoples that doesn’t use FF. BTW, unlike the Facebook Connect login, when I tried logging in using Twitter, it made a new account for me on FF instead of opening my own (which also has Twitter activity added).
- Natsuki Seika
ditto to natsuki...
- Steve Austin
Wow, real nice and simply to add my Twitter friends :O
- Rosenkrieger
Good move!
- Lantrix
Is it possible to add this to a wordpress blog?
- Arturo Pelayo
@Arturo: http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Saxtus
hi me sid m new member of dis site.........
- Sidra Kanwal
Hi...Iam new member of dis site...I like it...!
- Nima Tamang
Fire 1, Airplane 1 - http://www.planebuzz.com/2009...
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"Wonder what the Captain's seat cushion looked like after this"
- Gabe
from Bookmarklet
WOW that was close!
- Susan Beebe
Wow!
- Jeff P. Henderson
One of the comments: "I don't think it was lightning, see: http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb... "
- Simon
Photo is a "Cockpit fire on the ground shortly after external power" http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb...
- Michael Holzinger
Wondering if the new Friendfeed update has gone too far. Is it too fast for y'all? It's almost like having one cup of coffee too many!
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I'm literally getting a headache.
- Dawn
I'm going to go take some Speed and run on a treadmill so to slow things down a bit.
- Will Higgins™
lol! yeah too fast!
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
it's too fast and I'm not sure I like the whole idea of it. what do you think about the design?
- Orli Yakuel
nah. listslistslists
- Marcel Weiß
Mine is fine... lists ftw
- Bwana ☠
Anything that gives Dawn a headache is good. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
It's unusable for me, and I shouldn't have to use lists to make the service usable. There should be an option to determine how quickly your feed refreshes.
- FFing Enigma
That's not too big an ask really. Also, lists are going to be pivotal, so I think the easier it is to make them, the more successful this will be.
- Will Higgins™
there needs to be smarter filtering to help the flow...it should setup some lists for me automatically
- Jason Stephens
If you follow thousands of people, you most certainly should be using lists to make the service usable.
- Bwana ☠
the biggest problem I have is it takes away from conversations. I LOVED the old interface so much better. It allowed me to control my pace of conversations without feeling like I've missed something.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Anything that does not teach you patience, is not your friend.
- Melanie Reed
This is too fast. They need to let you control the speed.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Too fast without pause. Adds a step that I didn't have to add before. Jury remains out.
- Martha
One thing to keep in mind is the burst of activity caused by the release. A zillion snap judgments pouring in at once will probably not be the daily norm.
- Mark Czerniec
pause is your friend you know although I'm starting to enjoy the run with the realtime feed
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Robert: Then you're GOOD! :) Ha.
- Dawn
Also, I'm going to have to start unfollowing more people. This style of realtime really makes the boors stand out.
- Will Higgins™
way too fast is my early verdict. I cannot even appreciate someone's comment and perhaps subscribe to them. I think this is going to negatively affect the number of subscriptions to other commenter
- Lou Paglia
Thankfully I've obsessively organized my FF subscriptions already by lists and weeded out the noise makers, otherwise I'd been overwhelmed. So far I kind of like the new FF UI. Remember if the speed is too much there is always a pause button.
- Keith - @tsudo
This is a breaking point for the real-time web. I bet Friendfeed will have to go back to the old system (but keep the design).
- Steve Rubel
Bwana, that is the way you choose to use FF. Others choose to not use lists and this method was perfectly usable in the standard interface. I thought the whole selling point of FF was that its UI was flexible enough to accommodate the different ways people choose to use the service. An aggregator, content creator, community hub...
- FFing Enigma
@Steve - very interesting thought. We all want real-time to a point.
- Dave Hodson
This is WAAAYYY to fast
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Steve: Pause does exactly that.
- Robert Scoble
I tend to agree with you (perhaps two interfaces running in parallel, one for normal users and one for power users)
- Lou Paglia
Steve, have you worked out where you specify the syncing between Twitter publishing on the new interface yet? Don't want to overload my Twitter stream . . . :-)
- Ed Richardson
Yeah, I can't keep up. But might just take some getting used to.
- Mike Janicke
You just have to click "Pause" as soon as you want to start reading stuff. I wonder if that shows that real-time as default is not a good idea.
- Alejandro
Too fast to furious!
- Ninh Nguyen
I just let it wash over me, like twitter. These real-time updates aren't meant to be read, but dipped into and experienced.
- Dave Sanders
I agree. Look, humans are not machines. The ability of my eyes to track all this moving text (both reading and writing) has limitations. It will inevitably induce eye strain. And telling people to pause and unpause in order to manage this make life harder, not easier.
- Carter ♥ HTML5
i kinda like the speed...
- FRANK CHEUNG
I just landed on this post, and I see what you are talking about. I actually like the speed. It doesn't seem like most topics will be as hot as this one (so the average case will be slower).
- Adam Loving
I also only follow 77 people - I'm not sure I'm following the people who talk a lot. Need to play with it some more. Looking for recommendations of who to subscribe to.
- Dave Sanders
Carter: most humans don't have more than 20 friends. In which case this will move just fine.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Robert... when you have a reasonable amount of friends, the speed is fine...when you have thousands, I don't think you have a choice: You must organize your friends.
- Bwana ☠
There's always conversations here regarding what it would take to get more "average" or typical web users on to FriendFeed and I think this is the exact type of thing that will keep those people away. Most people I know wouldn't want to have to bother setting up filters or lists just to keep from feeling like they're having a nervous breakdown looking at their feed. And if they don't set up lists/filters, they'll end up only seeing the same super active users all day.
- Kate
I love it! it is exactly what I wish Twitter was, a constant stream
- Rodzilla
I don't think I follow enough people to have a real speed issue on the new FF. I do like live streams though so I think the speed is ok. I really have neglected my filters though and need to spend some time getting things organized.
- Sean Brady
I've seen stats that show Facebook is around 120 friends Scoble, Dunbar number is around 150. Also in FF people follow those that are not their true friends
- Jeremiah Owyang
The old design gave me a headache. This new one makes me nauseous. I thought FriendFeed had so much potential when they launched, but their design aesthetic and product preferences just don't work for me. Unfortunately, I don't see that changing. That said, I'm sure other people like Scoble will like it.
- Joe Lazarus
Exactly Jeremiah. I subscribe to plenty of people who are not friends in the traditional sense of the word, but because they post things I'm interested in. Everyone I've introduced to (ie: forced to sign up for) FriendFeed immediately asked me where to go to find more people to subscribe to.
- Kate
There is quite a lot of data coming into FriendFeed assuming multiple streams per person followed.
- Khürt Williams
I have lists and I am still dizzy!
- Steve Rubel
from IM
I just got hammered with a billion updates from the same user. Unfollowed.
- Shaine Mata
Make *more* lists! Seriously, they've turned it from a tool for info junkies into something that will be much more popular.
- Ian Betteridge
Shaine: do NOT just unfollow people like this. You MUST block them. That removes them from the system.
- Robert Scoble
I personally use lists, so I guess it could be OK (except that it makes my "home" feed useless - way too fast.) But interesting that you sort of *have* to use lists w/the new version...way to dictate how to use the product, FF.
- Sarah Perez
I feel the same way.
- tony
If people only use FriendFeed to keep up with their friends, then Facebook wins. They own that realm.
- Hutch Carpenter
Ditches features we were used to, add some nobody asked for, uses space in the stupidest way, it's all-round ugly. try again.
- zio bonino
I think that Friendfeed should only update real time when I am at the top of the page. If I am scrolled down, don't updated it. Comments Real-Time though is a very nice feature.
- Tyler (Chacha)
In the time it took to write this comment, 28 things were lined up. So, I got bombarded.
- Tyler (Chacha)
Although, you can always switch to the non-real time version
- Tyler (Chacha)
Zio: I disagree.
- Robert Scoble
I am torn. My mind will take time to process this.
- vimoh
Not quite sure yet, but I like that there is a "pause" button in the upper right corner of the feed.
- Craig Villamor
I needed maybe 5 minutes to get used to it (and the @ajbatac userscript to fix the look). still adjusting, but I think it's making me more efficient. I love the new filters - better than just lists
- Gaby K. Slezák
Robert: I know you disagree. But you know, I'm very open to change, I *love* change. But this is a step backwards, I'm kinda sure.
- zio bonino
I think it's funny. I've been saying since the beginning to be careful who you follow here. Now everyone is learning why. Zio, it's a HUGE step forward. But I can see how you think it's a step back. Hit "pause" and relax.
- Robert Scoble
I'm not talking about the refresh rate, Robert, it's all the rest. (I'm way faster than that) :)
- zio bonino
So many thoughts...but in answer to your question, the stream moves quite quickly. This is fairly familiar since I use Twitterfall to follow events or themes. But I have always used Friendfeed as the place for a deeper and richer discussion forum. The spin rate certainly makes that less palatable.
- Lorin Olsen
I agree with Zio Bonino.
- Niki Costantini
It's a conversation killer, and what I love more in FF is the chance to have real conversations... One year ago before the comments thing was introduced, FF was totally a dead place. What brought it to life was all the talk around the different entries.
- Niki Costantini
Russ, they should be able to make suggestions and compile lists on the fly.
- Steve Rubel
mine is slow
- Dave "Freedom 35"
It was in the beginning, but now that things have calmed down its good with me.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Use the filters (they now get saved to a list on the left hand side), Track what you want from the Firehose. New design is there to help customize the experience for everyone.
- zeroinfluencer
Thanks for the feedback, Steve. I think one of the main things I want to accomplish during this beta testing period is making the defaults right and making some things stream in by default, but scaling that back if your are subscribed to a lot of stuff. All this discussion is extremely useful to help us figure that out, and I am confident we can eventually make it work well for you...
- Bret Taylor
@Brett and so am I!
- Steve Rubel
spoke to soon - it's zipping by - head hurts
- Dave "Freedom 35"
going from FriendFeed to anywhere else feels like jumping off a trampoline
- Brian Frank
If it's to fast why not just pause the updates.
- Benjamin
If you pause the updates, it permanently turns off the updating—even if you log out and log back in—until you press the play icon. In the meantime, you can still see updates by refreshing the page. There is a separate pause option for your home feed and any of your filters.
- Ana
@Brett, me too. This is what a beta launch is all about after all. Some really good stuff in here too.
- Kate
stuff I like best: filters. I used to use bookmarks for my favorite searches. stuff I like less: the UI. I hate that grey, but I thought the vertical bar was useless and a waste of space even in the previous version. those rounded corners are so two years ago. those pictures before every post look so fuckin' facebook, they really really suck. When you post a link it's separated from the linked text, this feels like twitter, and if you feel it's a step forward, please see a doctor asap. :)
- zio bonino
The problem is not just that real-time is a step in the wrong direction; it is drawing energy away from those problems with the Friendfeed UI which require the most urgent attention.
- Sean McBride
Hey, don't get me wrong, I love friendfeed. But I didn't expect it to become a sort of facebook for people who can actually read.
- zio bonino
Lol, Karim :D
- zio bonino
FriendFeed is making me dizzy
- B.L. Ochman
Use lists (filters). ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I just joined Friendfeed, so I'm still unsure if it adds value to my Social Networking experience. My initial reaction is that it's interface is a marriage of the the features I dislike most about all the services I registered!
- Stacy LaRoche
Nice to have you join, Stacy. Are you using the standard friendfeed.com interface, or the new beta.friendfeed.com interface? I'm intrigued to hear the perspective of someone who is new to the service...
- FFing Enigma
Does the new interface have a Mini-window option?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
It's way too fast for me. I know some people suggest using lists, but having a bunch of lists, each in its own Firefox window, chews up system resources faster than a puppy with a slipper. It'd be really nice to have FriendFeed 1.0's slow but steady updating as an option, rather than just Fast Forward and Pause.
- Chris Charabaruk
I love the realtime view, that's the only one I watch.
- Richard A.
I like the beta, but I think they are too much ambitious for the moment. They forgot that friendfeed is an agregator before all (for the moment!)
- stanjourdan
" one cup of coffee too many!" I don't understand this statement, is a cup smaller than pot? Is three pots to many?
- John D Reasor
not feeling too fast to me, but i don't really have the volume. background grey's a bit dark, though :-/
- immaterial
I agree - this is a real challenge
- Gerd Leonhard
Its slowed down for me compared to yesterday. Thats cause I have 84 subscriptions (only). LOL
- Praveen Vasudev
Awesome but do agree with @karl that API is key.
- Moses Kpetigo
I'd like a way to move my entire home feed to a different list in one step. The ability to do something like "Move all all who have used "Second Life" in a message into a Second Life group would be useful.
- Chuck Baggett
A new design for FriendFeed at http://beta.friendfeed.com/ - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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Great job!
- Robert Scoble
Nice job friendfeed!
- Kevin Mohr
Awesome work!
- Aaron Draczynski
realtime by default now eh? nice
- Karl Rosaen
I hate it. I love it! I haven't even scrolled down to the bottom yet. Hold on.......ok, it's good. :-)
- Jeff Eddings
Cheers Bret & team - it's feeling pretty good so far (which includes initial gut reaction)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Nice job. I can at the very least say it is a big improvement aesthetically. I haven't finished checking everything out yet, but so far so good.
- Rolf Schewe
why there is no Re-share function?
- Tony
I miss the ability to have a Firefox sidebar setup that just had my list of items scrolling past and nothing else along the side like this view: http://friendfeed.com/realtim...
- Justin Yost
Reshare will be back. Just an artifact of beta-testing, didn't make it in for this morning
- Bret Taylor
don't like the grey background
- Moses
Any new comment can not move up this item?
- Tony
Our settings vary to prevent things shuffling around excessively. We bubble up when someone you are subscribed to comments.
- Bret Taylor
also wish i can add links/pics/embed in the "comments"...for example, i'd like to include an image of my email from http://www.emailcover.com, but it only shows up as a link
- brainno722 (Peter)
thanks, it looks awesome!
- Dani Martínez
Congratulations guys on a job well done!
- Thomas Hawk
Love it, but needs a floating Pause button.
- Barak B
+1 Barak
- Kenton
Barak, very good idea
- Kol Tregaskes
The filter is great! But any filter can not output to friends.
- Tony
+1 Barak
- Tony
what filter?
- Iphigenie
adding a filter sucks, things like has comments from should ajax populate :(
- Stuart Evans
from twhirl
you can create filters when you click "filter"
- Tony
The anticipation was high, but so was delivery! Great job FF team.
- Micah
Awesome!
- Iván Abrego
Like it! Facebook import (notes & link, not status) seems broken though...
- Alex Lomas
A keyboard shortcut for Pause, maybe?
- Micah
Thanks, Alex, we will look into it,
- Bret Taylor
Can you open an existing conversation in a new window?
- Barak B
1st look is good, like the real time...didn't make it to the bottom the first few minutes. Also the comment box drops down as I am commenting now...message got off screen ;)
- Sanne Buurma
please add keyboard shortcut for play/pause feed
- Ouriel Ohayon
Agree with Andy, dislike the fugly grey
- Sally Church
Barak: click on the timestamp to open a conversation in a new window.
- Kevin Mohr
Barack B : you can click the time and select open in new window.
- Simon Wicks
refresh the page would move up the item which have newest comment?
- Tony
sad grey: why don't you let everyone choose the colour of the background?
- Davide Leonelli
Grey or not, rather think about what the beta has to offer in functionality
- Sanne Buurma
Please, bring back service icons near each post — it's very hard to scan information flow without them. Also hope you'll do something with new subscription module — it's unuseful while managing a lot of imaginary friends.
- Yury Vetrov
Nice. Good job guys.
- Peter Kruit
The colouring needs looking at for sure. Unless, of course, you are going to redesign the logo? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
dislike the grey, sorry
- Manuela
Agree on colouring - but hey its a beta. Thanks Bret.
- Roberto Bonini
perhaps highlighting your own comments in the flood of comments (easier to scan/find)?
- brainno722 (Peter)
agree, gray background is bothersome.
- AJ Kohn
Wait, is the frequent shifting up and down of items I'm reading (i.e. the items in view) really supposed to work out well? I suppose you guys tried it for a while and you just got used to it?
- j1m
Peter, yep but thankfully the Cleaner FriendFeed GM script still works in Chrome and FFox, which does this for you.
- Kol Tregaskes
Don't like: broke my Blocks list, Block not available from Hover Menu
- Will Higgins™
Why Will Higgins have a superscript of "TM"? how typed in?
- Tony
it keeps the bad low-contrast grey on white text for comments that deters me from reading it. You made the main text bigger, now make the comment text black.
- Kevin Marks
Fantastic job guys !
- David Berrebi
can't see source of posts and comments
- Moses
Will: block will be back, just missing today, but it is not something we are removing (just something we didn't get in for this morning)
- Bret Taylor
I think you guys should really embrace the idea of hashtags. Let us add them to other people's posts, having various services auto-tag imported items, let us search on them using filters. Tagging is one great way for us to get a handle on the volume of information here.
- Kevin Kuphal
What's with the orange and the green on the side? Its a bit ugly if you ask me. Also, is there a way to change this, as well as make the beta permanent? (I like living on the cutting edge).
- darnell
I too like the orange and green. It's the blue I'm not sure about. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
I like the FF blue
- nouhad
Yeah, but it clashes with the logo. Either Friendfeed needs to change their logo, or get rid of the colors. Or (even better) allow users to change the colors. :-)
- darnell
Looks horrible to me, I think we should have a customizable interface more like iGoogle, I like the idea though, just more customization, like sidebar customization, friend lists, realtime widget, chat widget, all movable and arrangeable, there sure is enough space etc...
- Kyle Weller
I'm with Kyle and Darnell - I like being able to customize my GMail colours, and having that feature on FF would be cool
- nouhad
Ignoring 71 previous comments... I really like the new design! One request: allow the pause button to follow my cursor as a scroll down the page!
- Chris Messina
+1 Chris Messina. That would be an awesome feature.
- Beau Liening
Add a floating "COMMENT" feature at the bottom of each thread, so I don't have to scroll up to click "comment"... this is a weird experience in new beta UI
- Susan Beebe
@Ari: This is why I really think tagging is what they need to focus on. If we could each add #ffbeta or something to our own posts as well as others, you get the trending and other features that twitter already has. Combine this with filters and you really get some killer information management features.
- Kevin Kuphal
I really like having one UI instead of different modes (normal, realtime, miniwindow), but to support the old "mini window" experience, perhaps allow the right hand side bar with filters and subscriptions to be collapsible?
- Karl Rosaen
@Karl: API is key here. Twitter isn't massively popular because their website rocks. Twitter is massively popular because there's a massive layer of applications built on top of it. Build that for FF and you have the same potential growth
- Kevin Kuphal
I wish it could use more of the screen real estate of my monitor, given my normal window size, it has large amounts of unused space on either size of the content due to the fixed layout. Maybe a multi-column mode?
- Ray Cromwell
Nice job! but, where are my rooms??
- Krishnamoorthy
@Krishnamoorthy rooms I believe have changed to feeds beta.friendfeed.com/[room_name]
- Lou Paglia
the new design works better for me. I am sure there will be glitches, but so far so good.
- Sharon Hurley Hall
Is there a way to change my prefs over to to the beta so I don't have to keep entering beta.friendfeed...?
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: there's a link to expand all comments, there should be one to collapse them as wel.
- Ryan Stanley
UI suggestion: after expanding comments you scroll all the way to the bottom reading the thread, then you have scroll all the way back up to click the Comment link. Why not have it at the bottom of the thread too.
- Ryan Stanley
Feature suggestion: FF needs a built-in way of referring to people publicly, just like Twitter's @. Perhaps use the same convention. But there needs to be a way people to address each other in public threads, so a user can make sure to be informed when people are talking or referring to them.
- Ryan Stanley
going to read through faq - roadmap of what made beta & what's going away would be nice - big concern for me is the lose of ability to expand lists to see individual participants - i find that one of ff's strongest features - that and block but i see from earlier in this thread that its will make it in later in beta (whew)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Um, Twitter much?
- Christiana
A Pause button that follows you on page scroll could be more distracting than it's worth. But how about something like it appears upon a white space mousedown/mouseup event.
- Micah
You guys should use this userstyle: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac...
- Kyle Weller
Curious about how the new design will affect the iPhone version of the site...?
- Chris Messina
welcome qwerty. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm, I tried to read this thread, but I never got to the bottom, because the unexpected shifts of the text just became too much after a while. Fundamentally, if the page keeps shifting up and down unexpectedly, it's hard to see how anyone's ever going to read it -- hence the many requests for a floating pause button, which would help. You could also imagine pause on hover. Being able to read down the page without having the text disappear seems to me like the #1 use case of ff.
- j1m
I like it.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Of course, it's not really like you want Pause -- the real-time updates are great when they're below wherever the eyes are :-)
- j1m
Bret - Great job! There are certainly things to clean up before this interface goes to the main page. Rooms should REALLY be on the subscribed list on the right hand column. I would LOVE to be able to put Blank Lines in comments. I don't care if they count for a whole lines worth of characters (as opposed to a more common one character for the cr/lf) Blank lines make comments more legible and clear than just a runtogether paragraph.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't like how the interface STILL loses my place if I subscribe to someone while posting a comment (or even reading it!) I should be able to subscribe to YOU while I read YOU and not lose my page place. The Page should need to be refreshed to reset everyone because of the new subscription.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I don't know about the queued items, I like the real time feed, having selectable speeds instead of "over-caffination required mode" would be good. Most discussions this is irrelevant, but the discussion on tis new beta this morning (i.e. on scoble's feed) showed how insane that can be.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The real-time-only feed in the beta is causing Safari 4b on my MacBook use up a lot of CPU cycles, hence depleting the battery faster. I'm sure FF3 will too. Please consider an "ECO Mode" similar to the current standard mode, which only refreshes once every few minutes, for those running their machines on battery power. Without such an eco-mode, and with the rapid-fire pace of live updates, I fear that I won't be using FFeed much at all. Certainly not leaving that tab open for hours on end like I used to.
- Siddharth Deb
I don't know if I've done something, or you guys did, but when I look here, I only have a few services setup in the account, when I go to the old interface I have a LOT more -I'm not certain that everything is feeding through? (i.e. I have Digg and Disqus set up, I see the correct list of icons on the old interface, but on the beta "settings" popup, No Dice. Even if this is irrelevant to the actual data flow, please fix this to make me sleep well at night. ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
One more thing - Could we have a character counter in the comments? It would be REALLY nice, if my account is setup to post this comment to my twitter account, and it's going to post the link to this discussion, please Add the number of characters in the link (plus a space) to the total character count. That way I won't be truncating the comment and/or the URL when it gets to twitter.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Another thing: I used to be able to click the "More" next to a single discussion, and "Link to this discussion" Where is that? If this is an outmoded way of thinking please let me know. Otherwise, um...can we have that feature back?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: the timestamp ("9 hours ago") is the permalink
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: You rock! Thanks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
do you need a techno dunce to help the average joe make sense of this?? haha...i love it...
- Lauren Shanahan
Very twitter like. But better due to nice conversational.
- xia
I actually kinda like the grey... though it does look like it's an opportunity to let companies brand the background in some way.
- Frankie Warren
For cc to Twitter functionality, can the number of characters be a count-down instead of a count-up?
- Winston Teo
I'd like to second the notion that there should be a way to address an individual within a thread...the agreed upon "Rob:" works great, but maybe could be clickable so that there's no confusion as to which Rob or which Scoble you're talking to ;) (i.e. maybe a CTRL-Click or something on the person's name after their comment to start a new comment with their name at the beginning? )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The grey background looks kinda dullish, and it looks like someone ran out of ideas for colours..
- Winston Teo
IMO avatars occupy way too much real estate now, I liked the smaller ones better.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
thsi is nothing on the new design, but after being on here all night with no attention to a down twitter, I am reminded of this: It would be nice if I could set the post to twitter for comments and likes a) permanent b) off or C) on a per comment/like basis -twitter users say this "yeah, when ppl I follow flood me with FF spam ... I usually unfollow ... even block if it irritates me enough." And I would like to be able to be easily selective of what gets put through, and it would get more GOOD attn for FF
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
please, for the love of god, move the "comment" link to the BOTTOM of the list of comments. seriously, am I the only one who can't believe this hasn't been fixed for so long?
- Dossy Shiobara
I like it
- Cristian
Great stuff! :-) FriendFeed does it better than Facebook. Please go real-time all the way for subscription requests and confirmatoions too.
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
I dont like nofollows on friendfeed and links are moved to urls very bad :(
- Turkey banned Bloggum :(
I like quick stats on user feed on top right of screen.
- Turkey banned Bloggum :(
Love the new friendfeed!
- Chris Martin
from Nambu
It's not bad, but I prefer the smoothness of the old one to the lines and edges in this new one.
- scott willeke
I love the new letter-counting post widget in the beta though.
- scott willeke
at first glance, find it much more readable than the old one. Pity there still isn't "my items that were liked or commented by others"
- Stephanie Booth
from twhirl
Bret: all the videos are now up at http://scobleizer.blip.tv -- thanks for inviting me and for all you do.
- Robert Scoble
I like this beta
- Bannka
Stephanie: comments:1 likes:1 from:sbooth
- Justin Long
stephanie & justin - that is in the catch all http://beta.friendfeed.com/filter... - i went and liked/commented on something from each of you that had no other activity - you should both see that bubble up in /discussions...
- mike "glemak" dunn
LOVE THE NEW BETA ! the new filter is so powerful, more powerful if you could add "language parameter"!!
- foxmachia {山石}
still waiting for direct-to-room links on the right column, is it planned? (with lastupdated timestamps if possible)
- Kemal Hadimli
Nice.
- Thomas Chai
Obama Outfitted With 238 Motion Capture Sensors For 3-D Record Of Presidency - http://www.theonion.com/content...
Leandro Ardissone ⍨, David Erickson, Hami and 223 other people liked this
hahhahahahahahahahha!!!
- Mona Nomura
The pictures are priceless.
- Dan Hsiao
Our president is so likeable - even if he looks ridiculous.
- Mona Nomura
This is AWESOME
- Josh Haley
Totally. I opened up The Onion and spit out my coffee LOL
- Mona Nomura
Just another clown in a suit ;)
- James Artre
HAHAHAHA
- Anna Haro
Classic :D
- Mo Kargas
These pictures make me laugh so much.
- Mona Nomura
LOL
- Bindu Reddy
Priceless. :)
- Parth Awasthi
It blows my mind how The Onion comes up with such awesome stuff time and time again...
- Michael Leggett
Man that guy's got balls!
- david beckwith
This will add a new degree of realism to political simulation games!
- Chris Charabaruk
Lolz
- Palak Mathur
Wow, I LOLd HARD to this. Holy freaking crap!
- Mike Nayyar
those look like ping pong balls! LOL
- Susan Beebe
I for one am glad this wasn't something that was done during the Clinton administration.
- Michael Molinar
from twhirl
The onion has been hilarious lately!
- Sarah Perez
LOL!
- Brandon
someday archeologists will find the backups of onion server and bamm a new ancient civilization with weird habits :D
- Yunus Tunak
LOL
- Moses Kpetigo
The picture was awesome. But ... you know you're a giant geek when you're bugged by the sentence about sensors in the suit overheating... optical mocap is done with passive reflectors on the suit; all the electronics are external.
- Andrew C (✓)
"awesome. But ... optical mocap is done with passive reflectors on the suit; all the electronics are external" THIS QUOTE is exhibit A as to why the court has ruled that the FriendFeed community rocks. Case closed.
- Micah
awesomesauce!
- BEX
such an attractive suit!
- Krista K
We just can't get enough of Mr. Obama, can we? This is hilarious.
- Alex Kim
omg..!! am i really hearing this??
- Praveen Vasudev
Is this real???!!
- Nestor
Holy crap, wiki The Onion please before asking if this is real lol.
- Keenan
Oh Orion you write what we dream of :)
- John D Reasor
MAD magazine for the 21st century
- Brad Kligerman
Whahahaha great
- Jorg Jansen
Reticulating splines.
- Sparky, lurking
lol
- Alp
wat?!! oh, its the onion spwew
- Monique
HAHA!
- David Cook
Watch as Diddy tries to explain Twitter to Ellen.## - http://perezrevenge.com/watch-a...
bibeduck, Frode Stenstrøm, Marcus5s and 11 other people liked this
"Diddy did his best to explain to Ellen Degeneres what Twitter is. He actually made the most sense of any description I have ever heard. Since many people seem to have difficulty describing what Twitter""
- Amani
you can kill me now
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
that man forgot where he came from! pfu! :s nr 1 my ass.
- Marcus5s
But no one's worse than Whoopi Goldberg trying to figure out Twitter
- Viqi French
Left graph: Pitchfork Media's top albums of 2008. Right graph: Billboard's top albums of 2008. Via http://www.verysmallarray.com/...
Gregor Morrill, Brian Johns, Shaw and 11 other people liked this
cool graphics too
- Susan Beebe
both fascinating and terrifying at the same time. i'd like to point out, though, that the music business is not dead. corporate music is dead. or at least it's dead to me.
- mike fabio
Nice charts
- Nikhil Dandekar
If you had "Dude cosplaying as Troi" on your Convention Bingo card, you can go ahead and mark it off.
Your Neighbor Steve, Shaw, Jen Kuiper and 6 other people liked this
Good lord, man.
- Jeff Eddings
Star Wars: Retold (by someone who hasn't seen it) on Vimeo - http://vimeo.com/2809991
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Yuval Atzmon, fshamsi, Henru and 19 other people liked this
I like this better than the real movie. :-)
- Louis Gray
Actually, that was 3 movies...:P
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Nails it.
- Jack&Cleo
If they hadn't screwed the pooch on the gold suit, I'd like it better than the movie too.
- JCunwired
That might be the awesomest thing I've seen today, next to the Nancy Pelosi Youtube thingy.
- Kate Schmidt
funnnyyy
- Adriana
LOVE IT! LOL!
- Lindsay
<self pity voice>I posted this yesterday http://friendfeed.com/e..., but no bites.</pity> It _is_ win-full no matter how you find it. PS - I first saw it on boingboing http://www.boingboing.net/2009...
- Micah
StarTrek tribute (a movie in ASCII) http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Micah
Simpsons Rubiks Cube - http://www.ubergizmo.com/15...
Shaw, David Cook, Live4Emma (L4S) and 15 other people liked this
rubiks cubres drive me crazy
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
I predict a lot of people yelling out DOH over this puzzle. :D
- Steven Perez
Cool!!
- Kol Tregaskes
My aunt has this. And yes, it makes us yell 'Doh!' a lot =D
- FFing Enigma
Tina, your aunt sounds cool as hell
- Shevonne
Long URL Please | Lengthening short urls so that you don't have to - http://www.longurlplease.com/
Pat Hawks, Yaniv Golan, Imabug and 71 other people liked this
I've never understood why people like url shorteners so much (other than working around twitter's length limitation). I was thinking that maybe ff should undo all tinyurls.
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
When I send links to places on my company's Sharepoint portal, the link usually takes up about 5 lines in email. I ALWAYS use a URL shortener for those.
- Ladyepiphanybug
Paul, I would sing from the rooftops if you did. Maybe I hung out with the wrong people when I was in high school, but several years of people using URL shorteners to hide things like Goatse.cx has jaded me for life. Down with URL shorteners.
- Mark Trapp
I prefer to know where I'm going before-hand. I only find them useful due to Twitter's 140 character limit. I'm in favour of undoing shortened URLs.
- Tanath
Sure, good idea too as it saves characters in FF database! :)
- Susan Beebe
The bookmarklet is awesome for Chrome users, thanks!
- Jérôme
I like to see what I´m clicking. Would be good as an option at least, Paul.
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I'm not a big fan of short URLs either. Other then microblogs, the main use I've seen is when sending to some laypeople who have email systems that don't handle long URLs well and who also don't understand how to cut-and-paste the parts together to get the whole URL back.
- Tinfoil 2.0
@Paul: Stats can be somewhat useful e.g. this shows me how many people visited our RWW write-up coming from twitter: http://bit.ly/info/g3kp
- CG
Ok, but... FF truncates links at about 30 characters in the display (which is cool). I guess it would still have value, as the full link appears in the mouseover and the browser status bar.
- Christopher Galtenberg
Christopher: analytics packages can do that without URL shortening or masking. Referring URLs are a standard metric: why is RWW relying on URL shortening to tell them that information instead of Google Analytics, SiteMeter, or similar?
- Mark Trapp
Yes, Outlook was the original cause of this problem, but do people still use that thing? ;) Anyway, I'm thinking in the web context more than mailing lists full of outlook users.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, alternatively, you could let the user expand tinyurls easily from the ff interface - see how http://ffapps.com/tinyurl/ used to do it
- Aviv
Why would I ever want to see the tinyurl?
- Paul Buchheit
I agree, would be better to resolve them all by default.
- Aviv
Mark Trapp, sometimes i want to count referrals to items i recommended but do not control. Also, i use “curl -I http://tinyurl.com/asdf” to see the redirect.
- John Lam
There is a greasemonkey script for FF that puts the domain next to an item's link. maybe FF should just do that by default for all links. Most links are crap after the domain, anyway.
- Rah-PM 2012
Rick Astley invented url shorteners and he's never gonna give them up.
- Andrew Smith
Rahsheen - yep, http://ffapps.com/showdomains/ was quite useful ;) I never bothered to tweak it after the beta, so I'm not sure if it even works anymore. Hopefully FF will consider adding a feature like this in the future.
- Aviv
Hah - it does! I missed it... lol.. will keep it this time.
- Aviv
@Mark Trapp: You're right -- RWW should rely on their own internal analytics, but I don't have access to those. Another example: URL shortening the source of an image on craigslist to see how many impressions I'm getting.
- CG
About the truncating at 30 characters. I suggested some time ago that ff use the title attribute on links to display the full url. Ana even replied to my request, but it is yet to be implemented. It seems very trivial to me. Is there some reason not to do that?
- Robert Felty
Wow, it must have been minutes or hours after this discussion that FriendFeed added the domain below the link. Coincidence?
- Dan Fitek
It seems that the plugin's filter is a bit slow, making pages render slowly on some computers...
- Saxtus
Rob, I believe that was implemented a while ago. I'm curious why you prefer that to the usual status bar at the bottom of the browser -- do you have that turned off or something?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: Is there any way to get Safari to show you a status bar with the URL you're hovering over?
- Gabe
Apple-/ Gabe. (also under the "view" menu)
- Paul Buchheit
Apple-/ Gabe? I can't find the Gabe key.
- Jim Norris
+1 for longer urls, at least on hover or something. Man I hate short/cryptic urls that send you somewhere you don't know in advance.
- Matt Cutts
+1 Manas (1) I'd like to see both the TinyURL (for copy/paste) and the full original URL (2) Perhaps 5% of URLs don't work without the "www." Otherwise, can the "www" and "/index.html" be deleted when showing URLs?
- Mitchell Tsai
I like this theme the best
Steve Chou, Adam Cohen, vijay and 58 other people liked this
mine is "terminal", a little bit nostalgia :)
- Eren Emre Kanal
So how's that Inbox Zero thing going? :P
- Mike Lewis
Finally! Now they should do the same with google reader!
- Paulo Gomes
It still looks clunky dressed up with a little colour
- Sally Church
Will have to wait and see. Gmail is still the only email interface I have ever liked
- Deepak Singh
That's the one I use at work.
- EricaJoy
That's one of my favorites too. I haven't quite decided yet between Mountains, Planets and Night Shade.
- Ray Metzen
No themes for me yet. Guess I have to be patient.
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Ninjas. F.T.W!
- Cyndy
I just got my themes, and I'm using that one too.
- Dave Winer
I'm using Graffiti...
- joebrooks
Themes? I learn something today. Where are these themes?
- Robert Couture
Themes rock!! iGoogle stuff is really cool
- Susan Beebe
I'm shiny! try this: http://mail.google.com/mail...
- MLx
Uh, you got some email there in your inbox. Like 875 of 'em.
- Josh Haley
Those are just the unread ones Josh -- there are about 3000 total. In other news, if I haven't replied to your email yet, sorry about that, I'm a little behind...
- Paul Buchheit
Half Dome, I go there tomorrow - I can send a post card to add to your Inbox if you'd like ;)
- Nadine Schaeffer
That's the one I picked
- Hutch Carpenter
No Themes over here yet....
- Bee
You gotta love gmail, I run my entire business through one gmail account, crazy -- I can't tell you how good it is to NOT use Outlook any more.
- Kelly Johns
Me. For work :P
- Bee
Kelly, I agree! I'm unifying our orgs' communications through it and all the pretty hook-ups:RTM, Gcal, etc. It's a thing of beauty. :)
- Melanie Reed
Who here thinks Paul is sincerely sorry that he hasn't replied to our emails yet? :-)
- Bruce Lewis
I like the Shiny theme.
- Dimitrios Diamantaras
I don't think I could take a different Gmail theme. That would completely throw me off, at least for a little while.
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
I went with the ninjas too.
- Miriam
+1 Nate. After trying each theme I went back to Classic. Everything else may be nice but just too distracting.
- Alexander Ebel
using the Tree, it changes as the weather changes
- Svein Håvard Djupvik
Every one of them is grotesque.
- Aaron deMello
love terminal
- tim
just switched to "Desk" too
- Torsten Eckert
Science Proves Exotic Cars Turn Women On | Autopia from Wired.com - http://blog.wired.com/cars...
✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ, Richard Chen, Amber and 72 other people liked this
"David Moxon subjected 40 men and women to the sounds of a Maserati, Lamborghini and Ferrari, then measured the amount of testosterone in their saliva. He found everyone had higher levels of the stuff -- a measure of their arousal -- after hearing the revving exotics, but the amount the women had was off the charts. The econobox, however, left everyone colder than a January day in Nome. The study was commissioned by the ultra-exclusive British insurer Hiscox (we swear we're not making this up), which was curious to know how people respond to high-end luxury cars."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Well, I used to have a Plymouth Horizon with rusted out muffler, and I think your theory may be incorrect.
- Paul Buchheit
like WMDS is Iraq... there are some things I don't need proof about. BTW Chomsky now says Iraq did have WMDS... and I'm like Gee Really? Do you think women like sports cars?
- NoahDavidSimon
you need proof of this? ask Noam Chomsky and he will change his mind about women in sports cars in 5 years. Guaranteed. The official quote from Chomsky about WMDs in Iraq now is of course there were WMDs in Iraq, because we gave it to them and now we have 50% chance of a dirty bomb going off in the United States in the next 5 years. I still disagree with him... but it makes me want to...
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- NoahDavidSimon
Chomsky: "This is even sometimes discussed. You can find it in the strategic analysis literature. Take, say, the invasion of Iraq again. We're told that they didn't find weapons of mass destruction. Well, that's not exactly correct. They did find weapons of mass destruction, namely, the ones that had been sent to Saddam by the United States, Britain, and others through the 1980s. A lot...
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- NoahDavidSimon
sounds to me like the left has a BIG problem to deal with.... now about those sports cars... Gloria Steinem does it turn you on? I don't see much consistency coming from friendfeed these days. you hate Palin and think women get turned on more by sportscars... hmmm
- NoahDavidSimon
Unpredictable research:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
so we listen to Chomsky, Steinem, Roy and the rest of the numbnuts and we have Saddam with a bomb because we don't trust our own pentagon? I prefer to just say that women like sportscars http://simonstudiotheatre.blogspot.com/2008...
- NoahDavidSimon
not this woman. i think those cars are tacky and that the guys driving them are severely overcompensating. but i'm basing that on friends who drove/drive such cars.
- Anika
like I said. you want these people making policy decisions when they can't ever say the chick digs the car?
- NoahDavidSimon
watching rap videos for truths is like using wikipedia as sole source for your doctoral thesis.
- mjc
-a lot is made the frak up.
- mjc
oh boy I can't wait to put these Gloria Steinems into power so they can say the pretty lady doesn't dig the car and there were no WMDS in Iraq... DUH!
- NoahDavidSimon
I be darned. Maybe they should repeat the experiment with, say, DSLRs? Custom built PCs with blinking LEDs? Anyone?
- Yuvi
Exotic women sells cars. Would love to know how many clicked on that photo :)
- Charlie Anzman
anything coo and stylish, Yuvi, preferably from our everyday abode, might turn women on :) a coolish looking lighter might as well ;)
- Hayk
@Hayk - is that from personal experience? :P I'll start working on the LEDs right away!
- Yuvi
hell, yeah, very long sequence for trending - 40 measurements from N billions of human population on Earth... Very scientific :-/
- A. T.
There is an interesting site where beautiful models showcase cool gadgets - needless to say models sometimes have scarce dresses but always conspiciously show their gadgets http://gadgetmodels.i4u.com/ .Updated monthly :)
- Hayk
what astounds me is that there is a debate here. the chick *likes* guys with cars and there *were* WMDs in Iraq. and there *are* ELITIST blue state snobs on friendfeed who block if you disagree
- NoahDavidSimon
Somehow I think it arouses 40+ men more (as I said here: http://friendfeed.com/e... )
- Michael W. May
Yuvi, not really :) It is more knowing the underlying psycho-biological process of partner selection :) Females as well as males look for competitive advantages in the other gender. Research proved that females dig more into guys who dance well - the same line of htought - because not many males dance well and those who dance well convey a message of good physical state, coordination, open-mindedness,etc. - messages picked up by females.
- Hayk
+1 Christopher! LOL
- Nine
yeah that Bill Gates sure can dance... WTF?
- NoahDavidSimon
Michael Jackson could dance and on the darwinian level he ended up ok? right? ... no wrong! next theory
- NoahDavidSimon
liked for pic of cute model.
- Phil Glockner
Dunno what the car is, but the model is hot! :D
- Ron
Noah, dancing is not the exclusive determinator. IT is only one of many :) In politics and show business - the examples you tampered - I have to say it doesnt much work, as you said:) the reason being that it is either not visible or relevant to what they do (like in politics) or everyone is/becomes good at it (like in show business)! In both cases advantage ceases to be a relevant advantage.
- Hayk
my sister is a professional ballerina. She is in the Joffrey. The general behavior of most in the ballet world is one of deciet and sexual disfunction. from wife beaters to cheats... to drug problems. It is not a positive trait for women to see in a man. you are right that there are many variables. Certainly Barishnokov does well... but he does well because he is powerful and he did not do as well with the ladies when he was younger... despite what his bravado might say
- NoahDavidSimon
on the other hand men do like to see Salome dance and will cut off John's head for it. Dance is confusing. At first it might seem like Michael Jackson is "The King of POP"... but that sexual tension is not there for Bill Gates. I'll take the car over dance skills. Thanks, but no thanks. As Freud said. "Let us call a spade a spade"
- NoahDavidSimon
"Drive fast, speed turns me on." - Will Smith, Parents Just Don't Understand
- Hutch Carpenter
CHICKS DIG THE CAR! no science can prove that. no feminist will ever convince me otherwise.
- NoahDavidSimon
Noah David Simon - what the f*ck are you going on about? Perhaps people block you because you can't even stay on your OWN offtopic topic :P
- Mila (Jake Stetser)
Jake: I thank the block gods that I don't even know what the pants you are talking about. :-D
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
+1 Lisa. Cute expression "What the pants"
- Yuvi
Yuvi: Thanks. I made it up. And I'm proud of it. :-D
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
I'm totally stealing "What the pants" Lisa = awesome
- ha3rvey (Hugs 50% off!)
That's just great isn't it?
- vimoh
Wha? Harvey's stealing my pants? Ooooh. Just the phrase. Phew. Abbreviation: WTP. Just sayin'.
- Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
Testosterone travels up to the saliva?! That, I did NOT know.
- Santosh
That's Lamborghini Murcielago Roadster the lady is sitting in - there's no sound like an Italian exotic - when I visited the factory, they were using medical device tools to measure microscopic tolerances in the engine to make sure it would be up to par...I
- Aydin Senkut
Me, I'm just going to keep on trying with small-displacement pre-smog exhaust notes: http://bringatrailer.com/2008...
- Richard Chen
does my FIAT Multipla count?
- Luigi Centenaro
Japan's new professional seducers - Times Online - http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol...
Felicia Yue, Erick Jimenez, Cesar Cardoso and 23 other people liked this
"Kyoko, of course, is not the girl’s real name. She did not meet Mr A by chance and does not work for a design company, as he thinks. She is an agent paid to seduce him. She regularly texts the team from her mobile and has a couple of GPS devices in case they lose her. Shimizu is her bodyguard and will move in if there are problems. And the whole operation is paid for by Mr A’s wife, who gets an amply illustrated report every time an encounter takes place. The aim is to have Mr A fall so completely for Kyoko that he wants to marry her and asks for a divorce. Failing that, his wife will have a sizable dossier with evidence of infidelity to confront him with."
- Dan Hsiao
from Bookmarklet
dayum!
- JA Castillo
that ain't right
- Cee Bee
harsh world.
- Yolanda
I guess it's got benefits over just being served divorce papers, though..
- Jason Carreira
I guess a threesome with the wife would be out of the question then? ;)
- Tony C (Unrated)
Geeze, how screwed up is this? Can you not just serve divorce papers in Japan? The process must be a lot more complicated to justify all that...
- Lindsay
I don't know which way to go on this... I just don't know.
- Michael W. May
They used to have these in America, too, before the days of no-fault divorce. They were called "co-respondents." The goal wasn't love, but sex, or at least the appearance of sex. The co-respondent would seduce a husband, take him off somewhere to have sex, a private investigator working for the wife would take pictures, and the co-respondent would testify in court. A key witness against Fatty Arbuckle was a professional co-respondent.
- Mitch Wagner
the end of marriages in japan for sure.
- Chris Hofmann
In Japan to get a divorce both partners just need to their seal on the papers. If one party disagrees it's a lengthy legal trudge through the system. There was a TV series like this once (starring London Boots) where they arranged a sting where a girl would try and pick up a guy and take him to a series of places with hidden cameras. When she finally got him home to "her apartment" the camera team and his girlfriend and the stars of the show would be waiting there. It was pretty amusing..
- Stuart Woodward
There's a bit more to the first case: "Mr A, who has been married for 20 years and has a son of 19 at university, is prone to violence and beats his wife. She confided in a male friend, whom she then fell for, but when she suggested divorce to Mr A, he simply hit her."
- Alex Power
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