I have seen this before and find it fascinating especially the parts of the country where it's referred to as a Coke. What happens if you want a Pepsi or a Sprite?
- Kenton
It's always called a 'Coke' regardless of what the beverage actually is. At least that's how it is/was with my country Southern relatives.
- Derrick
But Derrick what I don't get is if you are in a restaurant that serves many different things, how would you order? I can see it if you go to someone's house and they say what do you want and you say Coke, you get what they have, but the restaurant part confuses me.
- Kenton
Strange but true: I checked http://popvssoda.com as part of my job interview preparations before taking this job in Memphis back in 2005.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
the same thing that happens when you call facial tissues Kleenex but you refer to a product other than Kleenex. it's not terribly complicated :). i call it soda-pop, which may be due to an unhealthy exposure to the Outsiders as a child. @Kenton in an environment where it's Coke, you would likely be asked what type in that situation, just as you would if you said you'd like a soda-pop and there was more than one type available.
- jocoda
Kenton, they'd say they wanted a Coke, then the waiter/waitress would say what kind, then they'd say root beer, 7Up, whatever afterwards. I always just asked for iced tea.
- Derrick
LOL Derrick, that sounds like the safe thing to do.
- Kenton
I always say "soda" in hopes of avoiding the "you asked for Coke but all we have is Pepsi, is Pepsi OK?" question because I am happy drinking whichever. They always ask though, so I guess I need a new gambit. Worse, my parents like to pull out the old "were you raised by Yankees?!" when I say "soda" in their presence.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Frank: soft drink, fizzy, and cola come to mind.
- Mark Trapp
Restaurants work the same way here, at least in Texas. The waitress takes your drink order, and you tell her what you want. No one here says "coke" generically, to a waitress. If the waitress asks me what I want to drink and I want Dr. Pepper, I say, "Dr. Pepper." However, in casual conversation, "coke" means soft drink here and when someone wants a soft drink, we say "I want a coke."
- Trish R
I think I say "soda." It's hard to say, because I generally call my beverage "DVC" (The right initials never stuck in my head when I switched from Diet Vanilla Coke to Vanilla Coke Zero, besides, VCZ is not as cool to say). I rarely ever use a generic term. My country-deepsouthern relatives say "pop."
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Why are people using the terms "country" and "southern" as meaning the same thing?
- Trish R
Here in Australia they are usually called soft drinks or fizzy drinks, as opposed to beer which if often called "piss". "Let's have a piss-up, who's going to get the piss?" Classy eh?
- jjprojects
The widespread emergence of using a specific brand of soda to refer to all types when many different types are vastly different from each other puzzles me. You can compare it to Xerox, but on the other hand you get the same result from a Xerox copy machine and a Lexmark copy machine while there's a drastic difference between Sprite, Coke, Dr. Pepper, et al. Reading the above comments I see how it's used, but how it's used seems like a waste of time to me.
- Tom Harrison
When I first came on to ff today, this is what I saw at the top of the feed. As I leave, it is at the top again. Thus, I both start and end the day smiling.
- Katy S
It looks just like Derrick is about to say "Goo goo ga ga"
- Internet's Tad
I'm just gonna go ahead and let this be my embarrassing photo meme entry.
- Derrick
People are using the Selective Twitter Status application for Facebook. Anything you tweet with the hashtag #fb gets ported to Facebook as a status update. Anything you tweet without it doesn't.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Given Paul's response to the "friendfeed is dead" nonsense https://friendfeed.com/paul... I kind of think that he would have been better off not giving a response until there was more to say. He didn't convincingly state that friendfeed isn't dead...
I think he had to - your brother was sending all his users away
- Jesse Stay
Instead he basically confirmed the rumors that work on friendfeed has pretty much stopped and instead the team is focusing on bringing friendfeed style updates in to Facebook. Obviously, there's a sector of the community that could care less about what's being done to Facebook.
- Alex Scoble
To be fair I doubt he'd know for certain what FF's future is.
- Mark H
He didn't say FriendFeed was going away - I am willing to bet money it will not go away
- Jesse Stay
I clicked on over to the articles mentioned and as soon as they loaded I found myself thinking, "Oh good grief. I couldn't care less about Facebook." Couldn't drum up enough interest to even skim the information. I'd love to see an actual write up about the state of FF though.
- pea
We all know that it's going away, the question is when. Consumers don't like vagaries. They want to know that something is going to be around for a long time. Right now we have no idea how long friendfeed will be around and of course this is turning people off.
- Alex Scoble
I was a fluff post by Paul. "We hear your noise and something is going to happen but we won't tell you yet so keep waiting."
- Rochelle
I thought it was perfectly reasonable, for a walrus. :-)
- Glen Mistletoe
Yep, Rochelle. That's why I think they would have been better off waiting until they knew something more concrete, instead of what they gave us.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
It doesn't matter, Jesse...it only matters what it feels like...and right now to a lot of people it feels like it's going away.
- Alex Scoble
And I'm telling people not to feel that way
- Jesse Stay
I guess I'm not sufficiently confused. Development on FriendFeed has stopped, the team is spread out at Facebook implementing FriendFeed-like features. At least that's how I've interpreted everything Paul, Bret, et al have said (or implied) since the acquisition. The interview Paul did with Steve Gillmor at Facebook, other video you can find, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Sounded like a confirmation no work will be done on FF. I'll give it a year until Facebook pulls the plug due to bandwidth costs.
- Rodfather
I think it was as solid as it could be and addressed Scoble position; FF's not going away, and further development is still planned & underway.
- sofarsoShawn
And I was just about to add a rev to the FF plug-in for Firefox. Maybe I'll wait and see how it all turns out
- Dave Hodson
Yep, Jesse, I appreciate that you are doing that. I guess we should all do that.
- Alex Scoble
Agree a lot of writing, but not much said.
- Kim Landwehr
Ken has it right *sigh*. Why would Paul even post if he's not going to say anything? Jesse, it "may" stay, but right now that's not the plan. If it were, they'd be screaming from the mountain tops not to go anywhere....
- Matthew DeVries
It doesn't matter, Matthew. friendfeed exists as long as we say it does. Scream it from the rooftops that friendfeed is alive and kicking!
- Alex Scoble
This is a community driven service...as long as the community exists, so does the service. I'll turn off the lights when every one else leaves.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I agree his response was less than convincing and actually a bit concerning.... oh and of course he is unwilling to leave a comment on this thread ... =\
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Yeah, so we have to make our own response. Do it now! This is your call to action!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I'll hang out as long as friends are here. But I no longer feel part of Paul et al's "crew".
- Matthew DeVries
Jesse - what makes you so certain FF will not go away? Do you have some inside scoop?? ;)
- Susan Beebe
"FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world"?!? So, in other words, Facebook is gonna look awesome, right?
- Steven Perez
How does it feel like "it's going away"? Aside from people saying it, that is? I mean, traffic seems to me to be reasonably steady. Individual people come and go; it's kind of true of any forum that not everyone is on all the time at the same volume.
- Andrew C
If enough people start shouting that a bad thing is happening, Andrew, it can feel like it is. That's how bank runs happen and panics/stampedes/tramplings at concerts/public venues.
- Alex Scoble
What does smart or stupid have to do with it...it's an emotional response. Completely different part of the brain.
- Alex Scoble
I think bank runs, tramplings, and the like are stupid. There's needless havoc caused by people acting, well, stupidly.
- Andrew C
And if I said that your comments made me sad, would you say that was stupid too?
- Alex Scoble
Probably. Thanks to the flu, I am feeling particularly misanthropic today.
- Andrew C
ROFL at least you are being consistent!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I don't like cryptic people, and the people in charge of FF are becoming more and more cryptic. Not going to leave until the kracken takes us, but the butterfly metaphor was stupid.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Andrew: a lot of little things have been going wrong that usually get fixed quickly. Since the developers have been busy with other new projects (read: integrating FF designs into FB), these things have not been fixed as quickly as they ordinarily had. And since growth has been more or less steady, a sudden influx of new people is unlikely to be the problem. Add this state to Paul's statement, and things don't look good.
- Steven Perez
from IM
That's fantastic, Higlet. Good luck to her!
- Ayşe E.
Thanks, Ayse :) She's 11 and already plotting away. It will be great to have a structure for her writing that puts her in control.
- WorldofHiglet
11! How awesome! I hope it's really rewarding for her and she keeps going, going, going.
- Ayşe E.
Me too! She has written several short books (with illustrations) and they are pretty good (I'm trying to be modest on her behalf). We've printed off the Middle School workbook (100 pages!) and she can't wait to get stuck into it. *sigh* She reminds me of someone....
- WorldofHiglet
I think something is wrong with me, I see same topics everywhere. :(
- Faraz Mullick
Faraz, in this case, Josh commented on this entry just an hour ago...perhaps he's done the same on other similar topics (which started as a Moment of Win, posted by many FriendFeeders simultaneously, during live tapings of the FFundercats podcast).
- Scott of Two Countries
Haha, I know. I was just messing around. :)
- Faraz Mullick
Nonsense, Mandy - you live next door to a bacon factory. You can spew whenever you want!
- Mona Nomura
I just mean I have never spewed due to alcohol consumption. Best Buy is next to the bacon factory. My town sometimes smells like soap or dryer lint and it has a giant Jesus statue and a Hustler store.
- mandyvan
I'm beginning to think there's something wrong here.
- s t e v e
been watching for almost 9 hours and it still hasnt loaded make it stop somethings broken ctrl-alt-delete cmd-shift-w ctrl-y crtl-z
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
this is starting to really piss me off, wtf like how fuck'n big is this son of a bitch file? Fuck this ctrl+alt+del adios MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!
- sofarsoShawn
HEEHEEHEE!!!! I got my partner with it!! HEEHEEHEEEEE!!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
"Chris Rock says he doesn't understand why fellow filmmakers are coming to the defense of Roman Polanski, saying of the charges against him, "It's rape." "People are defending Roman Polanski because he made some good movies? Are you kidding me?" Rock said on Thursday's Jay Leno Show. "He made good movies 30 years ago, Jay! Even Johnnie Cochran didn't have the nerve to go, 'Well, did you see O.J. play against New England?'""
- Thomas Hawk
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