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@defcon_5 Ok. How would corporate issues mgt or crisis mgt be a sales lead gen effort? Reputational, not sales. We're talking PR. Not mktg!
@johncass Lots, if by "bad" you mean "unethical." They just get away with it.
@defcon_5 But not all PR is designed to produce sales leads.
@cheeky_geeky My answer: http://txtb.in/3bh (also for @TDefren and @shelisrael, my dinner companion on Wed. evening)
The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #463: July 6, 2009 - http://blog.holtz.com/index...
@jenniferjones Interesting. But are all publics markets?
The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #463: July 6, 2009: The Hobson & Holtz Report - Podcast #463: July 6.. http://blog.holtz.com/index...
@shelisrael How do you get paid if you can't prove results for the client? I have lots of good conversations and relations that aren't PR.
@ctanowitz Incidentally, I referenced your post in my discussion w @jangles on today's FIR.
@ctanowitz So true. The investor in the NYT piece was wrong and the PR person pandered. Glad she called herself "media relations" & not PR.
@TDefren OTOH, if I meet the objects established at the outset, and can prove it with metrics agreed to at the outset, there's no confusion.
@shelisrael Sure, but I don't know I've done good PR just because I've had a decent conversation.
@LATimesJerry Are you the same Jerry HIrsch who used to cover Allergan at the Register? If so, hi! Been a long time...
@kdpaine @TDefren @PeterHimler Bottom line isn't always the goal. I'd say "moving the needle" is the ideal measure. Covers tangible & non.
@kdpaine True, unless they "get away with it." Just saying there's more than 1 dimension to good PR, though.
@kdpaine Can't bad PR -- unethical as opposed to ineffective -- have a positive impact on the bottom line and still be bad PR?
Proactive disclosure now a requirement for influencer outreach: Pushing your disclosure of your blogger outreach.. http://blog.holtz.com/index...
Proactive disclosure now a requirement for influencer outreach - http://blog.holtz.com/index...
@krishnade Is Alli new in Ireland? It's been available in the US for a couple years (approved by the FDA Feb. 7, 2007).
@DougH Dynamite.
@mitchjoel The piece on Twitter vs. RSS for newspapers is in my link blog. I may write something about it. Completely absurd, IMHO.
@DougH Noon your time. An audio comment would be fantastic.
@DougH If you'd like to send a comment on the NYT story, it's one of two longer discussion topics for FIR tomorrow between @jangles and me.
@mitchjoel The NYT article and TechCrunch response is the focus of discussion on tomorrow's FIR. Care to send us a comment?
Is Your Company Thinking that Social Media is a Job? - http://www.conversationagent.com/2009...
The Reality Of PR: Smile, Dial, Name Drop, Pray. - Washington Post - http://news.google.com/news...
The Reality Of PR: Smile, Dial, Name Drop, Pray. - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Sarah Palin Shuns Press: Talks to Twitter, Facebook Instead - Mashable - http://news.google.com/news...
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