Sous le pont Mirabeau coule la Seine (a poem by Guillaume Apollinaire) a great one by the way :)
- directeur
"In a station of the metro" by Ezra Pound. I also know the opening stanzas of the Aeneid, Beowulf, and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Hard to believe that my English Lit. degree gives me important bizness skillz.
- Glen Mistletoe
"I cannot go to school today ..." Shel Silverstein, that's mine.
- anna sauce
I have parts of "The Raven" memorized, but it hasn't helped me much in the workplace.
- B. Hatin
I still have the "Aunt Sponge" and "Aunt Spiker" poems memorized from James and the Giant Peach.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
English language is great for science, but is crappy for poetry. No poem in English could ever move me. Poems in Serbian can move me to tears, so I have memorized quite a few of them when I was a kid/teen.
- Bora Zivkovic
I used to be able to do 'Stopping By a Woods on a Snowy Evening" by Frost, kinda rusty on that now. I can sing a few....if necesssary
- Abigail wants more eggnog
Philip Larkin's "This Be The Verse" so true and such good poetry.Best after a few dinner drinks of your choice
- Paul Jones
from twhirl
Alright, I'm cowed. I think I'll go memorize a li po poem.
- anna sauce
@Bora it's all about what you know *now*, and then have 3 beers/whiskies and try to remember the poem. Also, you represent your nation's literature when you recite it. At all three of those I would fail, as all I know is a children's rhyme!
- anna sauce
@Kaia that is a good one to recite. I keep thining "casey at the bat" or "annabel lee" (is that Poe too?)
- anna sauce
do not go gentle into that good night -- Dylan Thomas
- RAPatton
I recommend Ogden Nash for ease of memorising. Also funny and frequently based in biology.
- Neil Saunders
Ego Trippin' and Phenomenal Woman. I use to have some Frost in my lineup, but I forget it now.
- Admiral Anika
Then there's ones that you actualy know large chunks of by heart because you love the poem: Yeats, "second coming" " Turning and turning in the widening gyre/ The falcon cannot hear the falconer;" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- anna sauce
@Steven, this is nice: "Soothed by the charity of the deep-sea rain...." from "Farewell"
- anna sauce
@Sally: "If you can dream - and not make dreams your master; If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;" from "If" by Rudyard Kipling, nice http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_i...
- anna sauce
(yes I'm reading all the poems) @directeur, tres joli: "Vienne la nuit sonne l'heure / Les jours s'en vont je demeure" I like the rhyming, and it's mysterious
- anna sauce
@Sally - wow! I memorized "If" by Rudyard Kipling too! great stuff!
- Susan Beebe
"Road Not Taken," Carroll's "Jabberwocky," and Coleridge's "Kubla Khan." I could probably have done more when I was still in college... more Whitman, for sure.
- Cyndy
Whan that April with his showres soote / The droughte of March hath perced to the roote... This is sick. I still remember this from Upper School, but can't remember what someone said to me five minutes ago.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Anna, Susan... Had If drummed into me at school, saved me a few times in difficult biz situations too. More memorable than the Betjemen poems my teachers preferred ;)
- Sally Church
LOL Mini. I know... my brain is filled with Latin song lyrics and Shakespearean soliloquys, yet never remember where I set my keys or what time my kids' lessons are.
- Cyndy
"dulce et decorum est," but i doubt i'll ever be able to use it at formal dinners. ;-)
- Jessie
Cyndy, ah Whitman too, had forgotten about him... Only themselves understand themselves and the likes of themselves, as only souls understand souls. Or something like that anyway
- Sally Church
Around the Corner I have a friend... - Robert Townsend(?) I think...also, my own poems...
- Shelly Weiss
Depends on what type of games you're talking about. I think there's a lot more value in complex tabletop games and games like chess than in dumb Flash games online or whatever.
- Rochelle
I have pretty much abandoned gaming in favor of social media. I was a several-hours-a-day PC gamer for 10+ years. I like to think that SM has more possibility of a return on my time investment than WoW did.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Nope, because I rock at Star Wars Battlefront II.
- Steven Perez
I sure hope not. I was really sucked into Sims 2 for a couple years. Now I play a few times a week. Mostly to design houses. :) But, I'm still a sucker for 'casual games' like Diner Dash, etc (bigfishgames.com). I get lost in trying to beat the damn things.
- Yolanda
Games recharge my brain and leave me refreshed to think about other things, a lot like a good walk.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Games are a release from the horrible world outside. They can bring joy and relaxation and bring down your stress life. They are a great interactive entertainment media. How is that a waste of time? ;-) Waste away I'd say. :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted." - Bertrand Russell -- Sometimes it's wasting time, just like movies and reading, sometimes it's useful. It does have benefits for hand-eye coordination, problem solving skills, teamwork, tactics, reflex improvement, vocabulary, cash management, etc.
- xero
I don't know... is maintaining sanity a waste of time?
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Really, I don't think that matters so much. What's important for our health is to intentionally indulge in completely frivolous "waste of time" activities on a regular basis. Playing games, feeding ducks in the park, blowing bubbles, coloring with crayons. If it feeds your spirit, do it, no matter who says it's a waste of time!
- Ladybug Heather
Everything is a waste of time, then you get put in the recycle bin. Use your time the way you want to.
- Sam Levine
No more a waste of time then being on FriendFeed. I can gain social interaction using both and at the same time be happy that I took something away from each. (No matter how trivial, it's still a small sense of accomplishment and fun.)
- David Cook
Thanks for participating guys. Appreciate it! :)
- AJ Batac
I'll come back and answer once I finish Missile Command
- Glen Mistletoe
It has been argued that humans are "homo ludens" more than they are sapient. That said, I personally find that they can easily become a time tax, and tend to avoid them, preferring to spend that time on more solidly creative activity.
- david beckwith
WOW I have never seen so many "likes" on a post. It is well deserved. I am very happy I found Trey's blog a while back thanks to someone posting a list of some of the best photo blogs. Trey's was clearly my favorite.
- R. Ferguson
Montana looks beautiful but it's cold and windy. The bandwidth is slow. And there are very few starbucks. Might I recommend Colorado instead ;) Lovely photo, BTW...
- Todd Harris
hehe thanks all - glad you dig it! :)
- Trey Ratcliff
Photos like this reignite my passion for photography. Absolutely breathtaking.
- Shelly Weiss
some of the best photos are taken while driving.
- Thomas Hawk
@Jeff, because I think those things are less intrusive than other non-banned activities, and because I only do them if I'm stopped (intersection) or not around other cars. I think these new rules are silly. Given how much time we spend in cars, we shouldn't need to be disconnected.
- Louis Gray
@Louis, I have no problem with people talking or texting while stopped at a light. I'm glad you use some common sense. What I do have a problem with is some jackass driving in the fast lane during rush hour going 50MPH with a cell phone glued to their ear and trying to take notes, totally oblivious to those behind and around them. That is who these laws are for.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Louis, I trust that you would still drive responsibly. But would everyone? I am sure the lure of a near-real-time SMS conversation would cause people to attempt to drive and text at the same time. It probably happens all the time.
- Phil G
I don't like banning of phones in vehicles. What's next? No radios? Those are distracting. Or, how about a navigation system? I'd rather see them stop people for driving in the passing lane, running lights, not using turn signals, and blocking intersections (not stopping by the stop line) then go after all phone users. Fix the other stuff first please.
- Becca
+ A LOT, Becca. I was just thinking that myself...
- Lisa L. Seifert
Can't agree with Becca more. Have watched more people drive off the (main part of the) road messing with Nav systems ... Either all or none?
- Charlie Anzman
I know a few drivers that should be banned from driving
- Charlie Anzman
i have a GPS and i've texted while stuck in traffic. the GPS is dangerous to use while driving, there's no way i'd text. still i wonder if on those occasions i'm checking the traffic on my GPS will i get pulled over. i use my GPS to talk on my phone too
- Admiral Anika
I'm leaving this comment via iPhone while driving home.
- Nathan Chase
On the other hand ... not too sure any of this matters. Have people with no toys tailgating me every day?!
- Charlie Anzman
@Jeff 50? Try 90. I remember a guy on the phone who used me as a pace car once. (This was when I was younger...) I kept speeding up and at around 90 MPH he realized what he was doing and abruptly slowed down!
- Oliver Ortega Chua
we CAN'T drive and text in the southeast because we HAVE NO GAS.
- jeneane sessum
It would seem that I have broken the law tonight?
- Colby Olson
need to ban women putting on makeup, mascara in the vanity mirror...gawd i hate that! how about people reading magazines, newspapers. hey what about smokers...that ties up 1 hand for a good 10 minutes
- Susan Beebe
I'm surprised it's taken this long. Five girls were killed here last year due to driver texting.
- Cyndy
Would have to think the train accident was the immediate motivation ... even though it wasn't a car
- Charlie Anzman
I feel like ramming drivers sitting in front of me at a green light that just turned but the driver in front of me didn't notice that the signal had turned green because he/she was texting.
- Tokyo Dan
from twhirl
Here in the UK, we don't mess about with having one law to ban something when we can have three. Using a mobile phone (texting, talking, gaming, whatever) falls under "Driving without due care and attention", "Using a handheld microphone whilst driving" AND "Holding an active telecommunications device whilst in control of a motor vehicle". The first is a catch-all ruling, the second was brought about in the 70s to curtail the use of CB radio, and the last is a couple of years old. One would have been enough
- Slappy Line
Hey, Slippy. I LOVE the way driving works in the UK. Doesn't eating whilst driving also fall under "without due care and attention?" And I REALLY love that you can be ticketed for being in the passing lane when you're not actively passing! Slower traffic move OVER, please!
- Lisa L. Seifert
Yup, all of the above. Basically, if you're doing ANYTHING other than driving the car, you can be ticketed for it. If you're on a multi-lane highway, you must ALWAYS be in the leftmost available lane. Driving too fast? That's a paddling. Driving too slow? That's a paddling. Paddling the school canoe? You'd better believe that's a paddling.
- Slappy Line
While I believe this is a MUCH NEEDED LAW, I know I would be tempted to break that law in traffic jams.
- Shelly Weiss
I don't know, Jeremiah. He used a similar type of fear mongering to push us into Iraq. We should not be pushed into dumping 1+ trillion bucks for the promise of stability.
- Peter Ghosh
Wow, Lindsey. . . . .yeah. . . .you went there. . . .
- Peter Ghosh
Aren't you tired of a president who's always threatening the American people that his way is the only way? We'll be nuked, attacked, financially busted, morally corrupted, ousted from the Church, America, etc. etc?
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
I read facial too. You never know, really.
- jeneane sessum
@Mona Nearly every major speaker does that...
- Nate Pilling
from twhirl
I wasn't impressed nor convinced. More fear, big generalizations and lack of discussion that this might not guarantee a fix or 700billion woe be enough
- Jim Goldstein
He talkked about his taking action, due to the bad loans by homeowners, to save us, not how the public could help save Wall Street. Should have been frank about the money being at risk. It was a very poor speech, even if he did read an Econ 101 lesson, because it didn't ask for any sacrifice from the institutions that got us into this mess.
- Mitch Ratcliffe
from twhirl
+1 Mitch He should have spent more time explaining to the general public that they (we) won't be getting a bill in the mail for this.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
It's 8 years a little too late for me to start respecting him now. Where was he a week ago? Hmm?
- ::Kristen::
Fear...hmph. If you're thinking now is not the time to be afraid of where your economy is going, you're going to get an unpleasant surprise.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@Shey: Fear shouldn't be a weapon to procure assent. And we *should* be worried about the economy and our over-indulgence as a nation. But I refuse to believe Americans are a bunch of weaklings. It's gonna get bumpy and it might not be pleasant but we're not made out of glass - least we weren't the last time I looked.
- AJ Kohn
His actions/policies and tolerance for Wall St. fraud got the US into the current mess. Sorry, I can't respect the guy ever.
- Paul Denlinger
Doesn't really matter what Bush said b/c few people tuned in to listen. He's completely untrustworthy and why I'm ex-Republican.
- Mike Reynolds
He waits until the last 5 weeks of his term, THEN acknowledge the financial crisis HE GOT US IN!
- Shelly Weiss
I am afraid most Americans lost faith with what Bush is saying along time ago
- Kim Landwehr
Just last week he was telling us that the fundamentals were sound... ugh. I think this mess squarely falls in the laps of both parties, hopefully they are finally getting some good guidance on how to get us out of the mess.
- Michael Wenthold
from twhirl
@Shelly Ummm, no. He didn't get us into it, the banks, brokerage firms, insurance companies, and Wall Street Speculators got us into it. This crisis is the fault of the financial sector doing things it should have because they could. The only thing government failed to do was renew the banking regs that elapsed in 2001 that might have kept this stuff from happening.
- R. Alexander Spoerer
There were facts but there was also this 'must act now' tone that reminds me of the war. It's amazing how much more effective he was last night as a communicator when he used facts, explained the idea in detail, and showed some genuine sensitivity.
- Ryan
It was a well written overview and description of the state of things -- while not disclosing how dire things became last thurs, and while skipping over root causes and the impact of complex financial instruments. But it didn't feel like a Bush speech so much as a verbal powerpoint. This was something he couldn't have written himself. But that mona lisa smile at the end of it was 100% Bush -- that tic of his that makes you wonder if he understood what he just communicated!
- Adrian Chan
I am launching the "ban robert scoble" petition - please sign by replying. This behaviour is not becoming of the person who is supposedly the "leader of the social networking, video blogging, made Qik, runs FastCompany.TV, has a book, etc." Join in now so we can take care of this before the bailout package hits congress.
@Kyle I just had my Sarcasometer recalibrated last week, and it is registering none...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
My friends in the cab says "I would f### you up." (@rocmanusa).
- Robert Scoble
haha @ Sarcasomete.. but Robert liked it.. lol
- Kyle Lacy
Will there be pitchforks? A real protest requires pitchforks . . . and hot dogs! Oh, and it needs more cowbell, too, I don't think there is enough cowbell in this protest.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Waddya know! Even Robert Scoble wants to ban Robert Scoble.
- Helen Sventitsky
I am glad, for the general population of the greater Boston area, that Robert is in a cab...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
scoble dont worry about bringing it because its already been broughten
- Allen Stern
I think we should delay the ban and focus on the serious issues plaguing our country - like why Robert Scoble won't Qik his drunken adventures.
- Shawn Farner
Can his butt off the A-list...actually that would probably be like dropping Admiral Kirk to Captain and giving him back command of his Enterprise
- Alex Scoble
patricia - i prefer not to be around scoble, all we will hear about is his 40,000 followers and how his followers dictate who he is, etc. but i will drink with you anytime!
- Allen Stern
Commenting for posterity. This will go down as the pinnacle of Trolling on FriendFeed. And it turns into an awesomely funny conversation about semantics and bewilderment.
- Stu Andrews
"broughten" is actually correct. Let's bring down the Scoble empire.
- B. Hatin
Of course Scoble wants to join. He's the first to join anything. Now try to make him chairman and responsible for the organization and that would make me laugh :)
- Austin Hill
wait - next scoble will tell us that he is behind this
- Allen Stern
I'm behind this...Who else would do such a thing to my brother?
- Alex Scoble
Spent 6 months be berated by professors for my advisors incompetence, so I quit. I've been screwed this way and that by the system and so I doubt I'll go back.
- Jimminy
from twhirl
Still working on it, but I'm guessing 21 or 22 at the latest.
- Corvida
I never finished, I'm 37. Haven't needed the diploma in over 12 years in IT. Maybe if I ran out of tissues or if I was out walking my dog, it might come in handy. :-)
- Dread Pirate PJ
lol, Aaron - it's nice, but it tends to repeat on you ;-)
- Slappy Line
Coke usually, preferab;y Kosher Coke (cane sugar) - Cheerwine all the time if I could get it easily here - drifted away from Mountain Dew lately
- Jeff Quinton
I'm a fan of the Dew but right now I'm drinking a 23.5 ounce can of Jolt. No, really. Only 100 Calories per serving. Too bad there are 3 servings per can. Muahahaha!
- ax0n
I don't, gave up drinking soft drinks years ago. Now it's water and Redbull (sugar free of course) for me :-)
- Duncan Riley
I rarely drink soda anymore. I drink Vitamin Water.
- Mol, Santa Claws
Coffee in the AM, Propel Grape in the PM.
- Matt Hilton
Diet Coke... and more Diet Coke... and more...
- Jason Carreira
Pepsi if I can get it -- Coke if my wife buys it (usually the case)- no wussie flavours, no aspartame and definely as much caffeine as possible.
- Brian Sullivan
@Josh, I'll take that challenge. My consumption of Diet Coke is mainly limited by not wanting to have to go get more
- Jason Carreira
Jason, we should be bros then! But I place no such limitations. I will spend my last dollar and last bit of energy to get more if I am out. Then I will borrow if need be. Yes, I think I have a problem too.
- Josh Haley
from fftogo
I seldom drink aerated drinks, when I do, I prefer a Mountain Dew.
- Parth Awasthi
Pepsi, but I recently kind of weaned myself off of caffeine, so I drink the caffeine-free version. I haven't sworn off caffeine; I just don't want to be dependent on it because I hate having caffeine withdrawal headaches. Anyway, the other pops I like are Dr. Pepper and A&W. Been trying more cane sugar pop from Whole Foods to try and cut down on HFCS.
- Cheryl Jones
have to admit I like straight Coke best, but for the sake of my thighs, I only have diet vanilla in the house.
- Shelly Weiss
Closing your laptop while in a conversation is an amazing gesture. It says, "what we are discussing is important to me, and it deserves my attention." An equivalent might be to mute the TV that you are watching if someone wants to talk with you.
- tagami
My laptop definitely stays open. It only closes for my significant other if she has something really important to say.
- Corvida
Hi, I'm Billy Mays... now with the power of oranges!!! And my Apple laptop.
- Ernie Oporto
closing laptop lid 4 a conversation?...yeah, I do this when my CEO tells me to "STOP Twittering!"
- Elliott Ng
I do when neighbors stop over. It seems rude to not.
- Cyndy
Seriously, it gives the impression that it's because they were browsing porn and needed to hide it.
- Victor Ganata
I do it with ppl who aren't techies (except my husband, who keeps his laptop open while we talk too).
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I close mine because I will get distracted by the screen every single time.
- B. Hatin
I never close my laptop...NEVER. Why would I do that? it would make FriendFeed go away. Also, if I DID close my laptop, what would I stare at intensely to pretend I'm really busy?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well people on TV shut down their computers by turning off the monitor
- Deepak Singh
well i do that when my wife talks to me, helps me actually *listen* to what my wife is saying instead of reading what's on FF :-), this is a good thing tv shows show it, great marriage/relationship tip
- Krishna Gade
depends on what is on the laptop screen and who I am talking to.
- Shelly Weiss
Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Gustav was larger and more dangerous than Katrina, and pleaded with residents to get out or face enormous flooding and life-threatening winds.
- Mitchell Tsai
“This is the mother of all storms, and I’m not sure we’ve seen anything like it,” he said at an evening news briefing. “This is the real deal, this is not a test. For everyone thinking they can ride this storm out, I have news for you: that will be one of the biggest mistakes you can make in your life.”
- Mitchell Tsai
Even the capital of Baton Rouge, 80 miles inland from New Orleans, could experience hurricane force winds of up to 100 m.p.h.
- Mitchell Tsai
By Saturday afternoon the storm had strengthened into a Category 4 hurricane with winds of up to 145 miles per hour as it moved over Cuba toward the Gulf of Mexico, and forecasters said it was most likely to strike the Louisiana coast southwest of here early Tuesday.
- Mitchell Tsai
In a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans, residents are not physically forced to leave, but are subject to arrest outside their houses.
- Mitchell Tsai
Ms. Clayton recalled being stuck in her attic for two days during Hurricane Katrina. “I’d rather play it safe than sorry, because I know what sorry feels like,” Ms. Clayton said.
- Mitchell Tsai
Hurricane Gustav, which has already killed 81 people in the Caribbean, lashed the western tip of Cuba on Saturday, and the Associated Press reported that 240,000 people were being evacuated from the area. Forecasts of its track said it could strike the United States mainland from the Florida Panhandle on the east to the Texas coast, though the center of the track remained the Louisiana coast well west of New Orleans.
- Mitchell Tsai
That New Orleans will most likely be east of the center, on “the dirty side of the storm,” means large amounts of rain.
- Mitchell Tsai
The defenses that the corps has been designing and putting into place to withstand what is known as 100-year flooding are under construction and are only 20 percent complete.
- Mitchell Tsai
In particular, floodgates have been constructed at the end of city drainage canals leading to Lake Pontchartrain, the principal conduits for the fateful surge during Hurricane Katrina. Still, there is no such arrangement on the Industrial Canal, the surge from which destroyed the still-empty Lower Ninth Ward.
- Mitchell Tsai
It's going to wreak havoc in my part of town too in Houston, most likely. But not as bad as LA. Get out, everyone!
- Josh Haley
Me: My friend's mom has already boarded her house & moved out. Lot of friends here at dance camp from New Orleans.
- Mitchell Tsai
"From its inception, in 1892, the Pledge has been a slavish ritual of devotion to the state, wholly inappropriate for a free people. It was written by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist pushed out of his post as a Baptist minister for delivering pulpit-pounding sermons on such topics as "Jesus the Socialist." Bellamy was devoted to the ideas of his more-famous cousin Edward Bellamy, author of the 1888 utopian novel Looking Backward. Looking Backward describes the future United States as a regimented worker's paradise where everyone has equal incomes, and men are drafted into the country's "industrial army" at the age of 21, serving in the jobs assigned them by the state...Bellamy's book inspired a movement of "Nationalist Clubs," whose members campaigned for a government takeover of the economy. A few years before he wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, Francis Bellamy became a founding member of Boston's first Nationalist Club"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Then all you've done is restore it to the original Nationalist form..
- Paul Buchheit
It's kind of scary to think that the Nazis were actually copying us!
- Gabe
It's amazing how much people do without really thinking about it... and then realizing we've been taught to not think about things we do... such as pledges.
- Dave Dash
I've been against the US Pledge since 3rd grade. It never made sense to me to say, "you can't enter a lawful agreement for anything until you're 18, but you can swear your life and loyalty to the US as soon as you can speak."
- xero
wow, xero- you were a nonconformist at a young age!
- Shelly Weiss
Ironically enough, I found this very article at "socialmedian" this morning, posted to "twitter" then commenting on "friendfeed". Are we real?
- Kenichi Matsumoto
I was with a bunch of real people tonight. What did we talk about? Our jobs, relationships, movies, food/restaurants... you know, things that regular people talked about before the social media timesuck.
- Louie
Real people hardly have time to do anything.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Louie is one of those guys who always ruins a party. Sigh. Today I saw Dark Knight, which was OK, but Maryam thought it sucked. Argued politics at one party. Talked about all sorts of things at another party. Now am working on a column about the future of journalism.
- Robert Scoble
Ummm why the early 90's have to register to read the article??
- Justin Yost
this reminds me very much of when girls would give us a hard time for talking sports all day. The sentiment is captured well in City Slickers. What's important to some folks just isn't to others.
- Morgan
Damnn Robert you are (quite literally) the first person I've heard from who didn't like The Dark Knight.
- Mohit
Chuck Norris doesn't have time for social media, nobody lives long enough to comment on his fighting skill anyway
- Antoine Bertier
Robert, I think FB is the one social networking app that most "normal" people have learned to love. Just not sure if they have room for more than one.
- Kate
Even overhearing folks at church talk about Facebook and MySpace.
- Todd Jordan
if FB is the social media for "normal people" then I NEVER want to be normal!!!
- Dieter Schwarz
I can't seem to access the article, but I get the drift. I like Clay Shirky's talk on video discussing where we find the time: http://tinyurl.com/5o79x3 I tell my colleagues that, yes, a lot of people are busy, but then a lot of other people also just watch TV. I spend hours online instead of (or often in addition to) watching TV. Television has made our minds very inactive over the years.
- Connie Crosby
So true. That's why most of my non-geek friends have a Facebook/MySpace account. I guess we all must be living in the Matrix.
- darnell
I use Social Media quite a lot, but I probably watch less than an hour's TV a month. I'd rather interact with 'real' people - geeks or otherwise, online, than suffer the largely mindless dross and BS pumped out of the idiot box, which I can't answer back.
- Ian May
Hmm, when I try to click the 'About SocialMedian' page, I get that signup prompt. So I have to sign up and then find out what you are about? Weak sauce.
- beersage
@beersage -- we agree. we haven't had a chance to get rid of some of the remaining registration requirements we put in place during alpha. Will be cleaning that up soon.
- Jason Goldberg
I would spend more time with Social Media if I didn't keep getting headaches from reading.
- Shelly Weiss
Well, if you look at the entire population of the world and how they spend their time, "real" people are mostly engaged in backbreaking labor in filthy conditions and wondering where their next meal is coming from. So can I be fake please? Thank you.
- Karim
It also depends on age demographics. Being 27 - everyone my age and below spends hours on Facebook/Myspace or both. My housemate is just two years old and has a Myspace account but barely uses it. I think Social Media is something the younger generations have as a part of their life and devote their time to it like it was any other entertainment vessel....
- George Smith
George - is that a typo or does your two year old housemate REALLY have a Myspace?
- Shelly Weiss
Hao - get thee to the nearest bookstore and snag a copy of "The Illuminatus Trilogy." No one on the internets should be fnord-deficient.
- Internet's Tad
It sucks. I'm fine with my N800 (even though it's missing the phone).
- Jake (aka Jawee)
Mine just materialised a cup of Earl Grey tea (hot) and am watching IMAX version of Dark Knight on it right now
- Jules
If you bought an iphone your a sucker...a sucker sucker sucker sucker....no matter how you look at it, there are several phones out there, one being the nokia n95, that are technically superior. The iphone has way too many shortcomings. and beyond that, your always gonna end up at your computer doing you interneting. which means you paid all that cash and stood in that fucking stupid line so that you could spend 20 minutes trying to type an email why you are driving. congratulations fails
- Anthony
i hope every teenage girl and manboy out there enjoy your iphones.
- Anthony
It sucks - it'll make you disappointed in everything else you own.
- Vince DeGeorge
It sucks (another blackberry user).. I'm waiting on the BB Bold to fall in love with.
- Aaron Myers
if they would just add a blackberry-like keyboard!
- Tim Connors
“The iphone is a testament to how people will buy anything as long as its shiny and other people are doing it.”
- Anthony
I have a Powerbook G4 , Ipod Touch 16gb , BB Curve ,, why would I need a Iphone ???? I want one ,,, but dont NEED one
- johnpiercy
I heard Apple is making iPhone 3.0 It will be an implantable chip in your brain! Not only will it have all futures of the 2.0 model, but it will give you an orgasm on demand! LMAO Guys is there something wrong with you? Have you all been brainwashed by Scoble? There are so many similar phones out there for a cheaper price! And they been around for years! iPod, Trio, Nokia, and more!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Just wait for a phone with the Android interface, then all your iPhone toting friends will be green with envy ;)
- David Silvernail
from NoiseRiver
Mediocre camera with no flash, no bluetooth audio (A2DP), no background apps, closed app distribution platform, no adobe flash support, no FM radio, expensive service, poor battery life and not user replaceable, no MMS, no copy/paste, no SD memory expansion, no wireless sync, no subscription music service
- Alan Cheslow
It has pros and cons like everything in life.
- Steve Rubel
battery life is awful and AT&T's prices are ridiculous. That should help a little bit.
- xxdesmus
You could probably get a way better contract with an N95.
- Roberto Bonini
If you drop it and shatter the screen, your heart will break every time you look at it... I did that to the original iphone, and have wanted a new one ever since, but it still works fine. I am trying not to be such an iPhone snob (caring that others see I shattered my iphone).
- Shelly Weiss
I blog to put things into Google. I blog to tell my son what I think is important. I blog to tell billionaires when they are messing up. I blog to connect people. I blog because technology has made my life so much easier than it would otherwise have been. I blog because Dave Winer and Dori Smith showed me how and they continue to be people I look up to. But I blog for a thousand different reasons, these are just some of them.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sorry I missed this (things flow by so quickly here...). One of the nicest posts of yours that I've read. Truly, for most of us, the tangible rewards for blogging are few, but the intangibles are all the more precious.
- Sprague D
I have 16,011 subscribers and I would like to tell them about smart people to subscribe to. Who are the smartest FriendFeed'ers around? Any physicists? Scientists? Doctors? Economists? Lawyers? Chemists? Material scientists?
Hey Robert I thought you did not care about number of followers and here you go!!! You can't help it heh. I know it is about who you follow and not who follows you, but you also keep telling me not to worry about numbers that don't matter :)
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
Loic: you'll notice, though, that I'm looking for more smart people to follow. That's what's driving this, not a beg for more followers. And, also, note that I'm trying to add some value to the exhaust I send along to the people who do follow me. I'm trying to find smarter people to listen to, so that my exhaust is smarter too. It's who you follow that defines you.
- Robert Scoble
I'm a Physicist, AI & Robotics programmer. Waiting on funding news so I can start my PhD.
- CannonGod
from twhirl
Why only scientists, doctors, and the other categories named here? What is "smart"? In my book, there are different types of intelligence, and I don't see any artists, writers, musicians, or smart plumbers on this list. What's with strictly equating an occupation with intelligence? Let's think a little more openly, please.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
i think http://friendfeed.com/nova is interesting due to his work with ontology and the semantic web. i really like where you're going with this thread, bring on the BIG thinkers!
- michael sean wright
And oh yes! I'm building software to rethink the way socialmedia should be :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@Nice Fish Films thanks! Semantic Web is one of my interests... adding nova. :D
- Rom Feria
@creativesage: I love Coltrane, Ahmad Jamal, Sonny Rollins, Miles Davis, Dizzy, Birdy... does this count? :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Tell them to subscribe to me, even if you use me as an example of who NOT to subscribe to. --- ok, enough bad jokes for tonight. I promise.
- Paul Short
I like the idea of increasing the clumpiness of your long tail. Help your followers/fans meet each other. The value isn't just in the scale of your fan base but in their interconnectedness with each other. How long before we have Scoblizer meetups?
- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
Thanks for starting this thread, @Scoble. Am subscribing to more smart people... hoping that some of their intelligence will rub off to me via the ethers of the internet. :)
- Rom Feria
Robert, A high degree of self-confidence!
- Mahyaa مهیا
Zahra: I was trying to find some of the less technology-industry centric smart people. But many of the smartest people in my life are engineers (my dad is one).
- Robert Scoble
Come on... It's not about the title/status (I've been a univ. teacher at 23) It's about what we make. What we "create". Don't you think? :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@directeur Commentary can carry just as much importance as creation, they are just different categories.
- xero
I see:) anyway I'm a software engineer. seems it doesn't count ;)
- Zahra HB
Software engineers are extremely smart. What you do is akin to magic for most people.
- Robert Scoble
@jokeyxero: Totally agree! Inovation is not just about "making" "things"
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@zahrahb: Of course it counts! and your firstname is a flower, so it counts more ;-)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I think by responding to your request, I have some how diminished in smartitudinessosity...besides, smart people aren;t interesting to follow; train wrecks are much more fun (i.e. reality television).
- Josh Tabin
from twhirl
Feels like magic sometimes. I actually have a code snippet folder labeled "Magic".
- xero
Robert, you should be following some of the wine geeks (and not just GaryV, who dwells on another plane of existence). There's not many of them of FF yet, but what they lack in intelligence (per se), they more than make up with personality and opinion.
- Randy Hall
Someone like Tim Elliot (on FF) or Tom Wark (not on FF, but I'm trying!)
- Randy Hall
Respectfully, kind of a one sided list there. There's also the creative, often less linear side. Different kind of "smart" - and not a lot of them on here unfortunately. Writers, directors, artists, etc. Different assumptions about the world, different ways of looking at it and processing it.
- Dean Terry
I'm a physicist but never think a phycist can be smart:D
- Maryamss
But I haven't seen any geek who could be said smart ... all of them live isolated in their office (Generally)
- saee:Dsharif
Can we find the smartest person on FF and have them make a Gattica room and then they can screen for the genetically and educationally superior among us? That would be awesome
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Physicists are smart enough to know that they know absolutely nothing. Quantum entanglement still blows my mind.
- xero
you should subscribe to Bryan Jones, on twitter as bwjones. He's a scientist and also great photographer. Check his website, linked from his twitter page.
- mark zero (Jason)
<- looking for more 'SMARTest' FriendFeed'ers as in SOCIAL INTELLIGENCE and GUT FEELING, creativity & ARTISTS
- Margit Hinke
I found most of Iranian users smart.they are very clever and educated
- Maryamss
due to maryam's comment, I think all geeks are smart ;)
- Zahra HB
In general Robert, I think we have serious under-representation of the sciences here on FF. There seems to be a vibrant community of Bio-chemists that I am tracking via @neilfws and @mndoci that also tackle more general subjects like doing science in the Web 2.0 setting. Until now I could not find anything comparable in my side of the woods, i.e. systems research in networking, etc. There is a large community of us on Facebook, but my friends there are slow in accepting FF
- Vlado Handziski
I agree w/Berci below--that's a good place to start, but it's an aggregate of ALL doc/medstudent bloggers, some far more tech saavy than others. By definition, most docs don't have a TON of time for noodling online to keep active in all communities, but there's no shortage of us who attempt to leverage newer social tech to our professional advantage--and more of a 'purist' approach, not for slimy marketing gimmicks either.
- Enrico C.
from twhirl
3rd year Computer Science Undergrad. Yeaah, we need a dedicated CS room. What say you???????
- Roberto Bonini
That's absolutely right, Vlado! Life scientists and medical professionals are under-represented in Friendfeed and it will take a lot of time to persuade others to join us. For example, I only know about 3 medical students (including me) who are on Friendfeed. What do tech guys think about that? How could we persuade more people of these fields to join Friendfeed?
- Berci Mesko, MD
Berci: one problem is that newbies are not able to immediately see the richness of the FF world (the experience is coupled with the number of subs, participation, etc.), and they loose interest fast. That is why I like the approach of creating rooms dedicated to different science areas and exporting their feeds to colleagues, so they can learn about the dynamics on FF even before they join.
- Vlado Handziski
I did a Ph.D. in bioinformatics / computational biology and is currently in the process of starting my own research group. I will leave it to others to judge if that is a smart thing to do ;-)
- Lars Juhl Jensen
BTW: there is a considerable number of life scientists at FF - just take a look at group "The Life Scientists".
- Lars Juhl Jensen
Well, I do have a degree in Physics but do not use it. =)
- Jauder Ho
Personally, I look for motivated people to follow, those who are following their passions to make the world (at least THEIR part in the world) a better place. I have 3 graduate degrees (Rehabilitation, Mental Health, and Education) and 2 professional licenses but no longer work in the field. I write about the field, using my knowledge of related topics, but do nothing that requires those qualifications. So the degrees aren't everything.
- Shelly Weiss
It's really cool of Scoble to want to "give back" something to those who follow him. Anyway, what's Scoble's definition of "Smart"? I am a Web Ninja (Developer, Engineer, whatever you call it, but because I enjoy my work, I prefer to call myself a NInja), and a part-time Radio Host, so am I smart? Hmm..
- Winston Teo
Winston, he already defined it: 1) Anyone who is a scientist (including, but possibly not limited to: physicists, chemists, and material scientists), 2) doctors, 3) economists, 4) lawyers, 5) some engineers (including, but possibly not limited to software engineers), and 6) Anyone who is married to a CERN physicist.
- Mark Trapp
Mark: my definition of smart is much broader than that, but I only have about 200 characters to play with on FriendFeed. I used to room with a janitor who was smart. They are rare, but out there. Probably are programming on weekends like this guy was. I'm thinking about why some people are smart. Probably has something to do with the first words out of their mouth are about ideas, not about celebrities.
- Robert Scoble
I have a B.Sc. in psychology, half of a B.Eng., and a graduate certificate in corporate communications & public relations. Does that make me smart? Maybe. Lets have a conversation, and you can judge for yourself.
- Rick Weiss
Here is a link to a small survey about the scientists that participate in the Life Scientists room, regarding on what do they work on. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Pedro Beltrao
What do you guys do with old albeit important emails? I find my emails make a detailed chronology of my days more than my day planner. Not sure if I want a hard copy of the email or not.
I keep _all_ email, outside of daily calendar updates and invitaions. I am fortunate enough to use Gmail at both home and work, which allows for very specific searching, and essentially no quota. A limited number of labels (10) allow me to filter my searches easily and quickly
- Jered Benoit
from fftogo
umm. I use gmail - exclusively , for all my personal email. For my important email I use the"star" option and star them. I have recently opened 2 more accounts in gmail to keep track of other important stuff like log ins etc so for eg. sub.shelly@gmail.com could be the gmal add u use everytime you subscribe to new beta or whatever on the web. And have all the necc log in email in that account. SImilarly for all bank and/ other investment related accounts you culd use invest.shelly@gmail.com
- viki saigal
Yes, 24/7/, 365. Damn, I'm only a few blocks away. I'd meet you there but I'm heading out of the city for a few hours. The MOMA is pretty close by if you're looking to be indoors afterwards.
- Dave Stanley
We're at the Apple store now. Lots of fun and free Internet for FriendFeeding. :-)
- Robert Scoble
now see im confused - why did orli and steve "like" this? you are having breakfast - big deal :) (nothing against you, just trying to understand why anyone would "like" this - it dilutes the "like"
- Allen Stern
I like things that I want to save for myself. Maybe they wanted to come to meet me? Or, maybe they wanted to tell their friends that there's a meetup happening. I like stuff like this too for both of these reasons.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, and if people didn't like things like these no one would be on Twitter. At least 57% of the messages on Twitter are insipid little things about people's lives like this one.
- Robert Scoble
*Pops in here without context* You folks "Like" things here so that you can't see past your last 300 likes? Scoble, isn't the "Like things to come back to it" line of thought useless with the 300 Likes limit?
- Yuvi
We are in Times Square now. Come join us.
- Robert Scoble
Yuvi, it's probably a little different for Scoble, but for us mere mortals following less than 1,000 people, liking something to save for later isn't a long term solution: that's what bookmarks are for. But let's say I'm tied-up right now, and I see an interesting discussion developing on Friendfeed. I can "like" it for easy access to it in a few minutes/hours/forthours, which doesn't intrude on the 11-page limit.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark: Point taken. I'm also trying to make as much noise(?) as possible so that this issue gets fixed.
- Yuvi
I used to work (and live) in NYC, and was on my way shortly into the city on 9-11. Big Apple has some nice features and attractions but I prefer Maine.
- Alex Hammer
sushi rec for you: ushi wakamaru (136 west houston street)
- colin nagy
That post is messed up. This person he's not bothering to keep in touch with is his "best friend?" Strange definition of friend. You all are interesting to track, and I hope to meet many of you one day, but there are these things called priorities. When I consider my tried and true friends on one hand and my socnet acquaintances on the other there is just. no. contest.
- Jim Stanger
i find myself completely dis-connected with real life people. at times i feel closer to my online friends on twitter and other social media friends then say classmates... i feel like twitter constantly throws little balls of information that are constantly spinning in my head. floating about. sometimes i crave physical connections with people maybe lunch or star bucks.. thats the only down side to our world.
- Caroline
Rings true to me. There's a depth of experience in the 'meatworld' that the socnets can't touch. I think that an hour a month can easily be much more meaningful than the constant 'light touch' of the tweet. But, the constancy and breadth of the socnets is hard to replicate IRL. What I read in the post was just a frustration that the 'best friend' was rebuffing the posters' advocacy of the online tools available to deepen their preexisting relationship. I think that's a fair and insightful point.
- Madsimian
I think a lot of this is because online friends are so easy to shut off and out. No messy offline issues. Apples and oranges. Both are good in different ways.
- Mark Forman
What gets my goat about this post is that Stowe is laying this issue of *his* at the feet of his so-called friends. If you feel disconnected from the people around you, fine. I mean it sucks, but ok. But don't blame those people for your breakdown. Stowe wrote it right off the bat, after weeks his friend had to contact him. The friend contacted him using the most ubiquitous long distance communication device on the planet...a phone. Nothing wrong with that.
- Jim Stanger
I write all this even though most of the people I consider friends, along with family, co-workers, and most everyone else around me, don't "get" Twitter and the like. Hell, they barely know it exists. But they're people I know, love and respect in ways not possible to communicate in 140 words or 140,000 words. It's worth it to me to keep in contact with them no matter what tools they're comfortable using. And if I don't I certainly won't chalk it up to their inability to anxiously hover over Twitter.
- Jim Stanger
Funny thing is most of my communication with my meat-space friends takes place online too, except that it's typically through email and Livejournal, not Twitter.
- Morton Fox
I left a comment on the blog as well, except...it's moderated. From the post and the moderation it appears he's more about keeping people at arms length than mingling. So much for the "social revolution."
- Jim Stanger
I wrote the article (not Stowe). It's not that I don't keep in touch with Steffen, just that I don't have a daily flow from him 'cause he's not online. That's starting to make a difference. Of course when we *do* see each other, it's deeper and more intense than Twitter contact. That's obvious.
- Matt Balara
Re: Stanger's remark - We have to moderate /Message or we drown in spam. It's nothing about 'keeping people at arm's length'.
- Stowe Boyd
I can so relate to this article!! Good to see others share my preference for non-face-to-face socialization. I even hate talking on the phone. Have a friend who always calls me right after I text her a simple 'yes' or 'no' question... hate that! If you have something to discuss, fine... but don't call me to ask 'what am I doing' 12 times.
- Shelly Weiss
Stowe gets props for writing honestly about this, but I gotta' say I'd have to reconsider friend status with someone who referred to me as "meat"... ;-)
- Sprague D
Sprague D - I've never been a fan of the phrase "meatspace". Can someone think up a better term for this?
- Mike Doeff
Meativerse? Meatosphere? Series of Meat Tubes? EDIT: I just looked up the etymology on "carnival." It apparently means "leaving the meat behind" (carne + vale, as in, giving up meat for Lent), so perhaps we should start calling the interwebs a "carnival." Step right up, step right up, I've got JPEGs of Jo-Jo the Dog-Faced Boy...
- Karim
Matt and Stowe: Fair 'nough, guys. I gotta admit, that piece really rankled me yesterday. I often show people these online social tools, and their first reaction is a recoil. The impression they get is it's a bunch of introverted shut-ins with nothing better to do than chat with each other. "Don't these people have lives?" It's a fallacy that gets harder to dispute when I actually read someone saying they have better online relationships than in-person, or that they retreat into this "world." *facepalm*
- Jim Stanger
@Mike, well Morpheus called it "The Desert of the Real" -- but I think I prefer "the reality-based community".
- Sprague D
I think it's incumbent upon ME to remember how my friends prefer to be contacted. Some like email, some like Twitter, some like the phone, some prefer that you show up at their house.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Sprague, Morpheus was only a simulacrum of Baudrillard. Though I suppose this means Baudrillard was right when he said it's the territory that falls apart under the map.
- Karim
@Jim read it again. That's not at all what I said. I don't have "better" online relationships than in person. Online contact expands my offline relationships. Just tonight I was out with 3 friends, and quite a lot of what we talked about was stuff we'd seen from each other in Twitter. Twitter made us aware, and meatspace (beerspace?) was where we deepened and intensified the conversation. I'm anything but a shut-in.
- Matt Balara
just had to look up simulacrum. friendfeed is educational...
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
@Matt Great to hear, bud. My last comments were veering into the general...not really addressing the blog post. Augmenting offline relationships here is great. Replacing them...not so much.
- Jim Stanger
Sorry for you, Justin. I shattered mine 2 days ago and tried to talk Apple into exchanging it... nope, would only give me a new iphone for $250. Since my phone still works, I am trying to be thankful for that. Does yours work at least?
- Shelly Weiss