I just had a revelation that not everybody that uses social media sites crave conversations or meaningful connections. Some just want to share links with people and that's how they want to use twitter or friendfeed for example. Could it be then that most people who have introvert traits don't really want to connect with people?
Very likely. I only get into discussions about politics, economics, and religion, which are not most people's cups of tea. I may like other things, but I rarely discus them online. I don't really crave 'connections' with people online, I view them as sources of content.
- Alex Scrivener
I'm an introvert, but I do enjoy a useful conversation
- William Harryman
This is an important thing every person talking or advising about the interactive web needs to understand: different people use it differently for different reasons.
- Patricia
i like discussing music-making and everything that goes along with it. sadly, i have yet to meet anyone in FF or FB or anywhere other than message boards (UGH!) or IRC who is like-minded.
- Dead Silence
You are a bit kinder than I am. Maybe I should learn to look at things like you do. However, I see a lot of people that live in their own little world and just don't care about other people. They want themselves to be the spotlot of attention and wouldn't dare give attention to someone else.
- Hummie
Yup, you're assumption is correct. See Forrester.com/groundswell then click on "Profile Tool" to find out why
- Jeremiah Owyang
Dead Silence, rooms may help with that. I find it more difficult to have topical conversations when everyone's feed is a mass of all different interests and inputs.
- joey
I don't know that it's just introverts. I'm a strongly expressed introvert, and I love interacting with people online. It's much easier and less stressful for me than interacting offline - although gaining confidence through online interaction has improved my offline confidence as well and I'm far less shy than I used to be.
- Jandy
Jandy - same here - my thoughts exactly! I'm still working on the offline confidence... hoping that will improve as time goes on...
- Jan - @wordsforliving
i see what you mean but there are also different ways of using social media. Some use it strictly as a way positioning themselves as industry leaders, some for business and some for fun. The strategies are different.
- Violet Mae Lim
Aaah - so true Violet... I have to remember that not everyone is exactly like me or want the same things out of it!
- Jan - @wordsforliving
I think you're on to something although I'd never want to concede your last point even though that might be deductively true. For some of us it takes a while longer to open up and 'engage' per se but I'm hoping that its just part of the natural learning curve.
- Adi
Adi - I'd been puzzled over other introverts not wanting to chat even online. I don't understand this since I'd like to connect with other like-minded people, but at this point, it's definitely a mystery to me.
- Jan - @wordsforliving
I like connecting, sharing, learning, and don't have a thing to sell you but my smiling mug. :-)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I like getting involved in discussions online, but I'm not sure that I really connect.
- John
I fall under the introvert category. I do more sharing of links and content and original thoughts than conversating. I guess conversating isn't a word.
- Holden Caulfield
Have to disagree with the opening statement. Just had an interesting time with some twitter peeps about Friendfeed-aggregated news links. Because the links came into Twitter around ten-to-a-time, my followers didn't like it. Pretty much unanimous they wanted commentary and conversation.
- George Hall (Australia)
Exactly George - that's my thoughts. What happened was I came across one person (and maybe this person is rare), that actually stated that she did not want the conversations, but only wanted to use social media to share info and links. This was quite a surprise to me, as I assumed every single person on the planet would want commentary and conversation. So seeing her disclose that she...
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- Jan - @wordsforliving
I have gained true friends through the internet. I use it to connect, to discuss common interests and to learn.
- Lis Miller
I think I function in social media much like I do in the real world. It takes me awhile to find those I really connect with. I don't care for all the silly stuff most of the time. It's kind of like small talk which bores me after awhile. But when I can get into a good discussion with a group about something I'm really interested in, then I'm more than willing to engage. However, I find...
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- LLL
I'm kind of the opposite, Jannifer. I find that conversation and connection are much easier for me online than in person. I don't get worn out or overstimulated nearly as quickly or easily. And, of course, every day is different. I may be in a silly, frivolous mood today and a more serious mood tomorrow.
- Ladybug Heather
you sound like my boyfriend. great words
- Caroline
Not being an introvert I can't say for sure, however I think that even people with introverted traits would still find happiness from conversation and connecting with others. I know one guy who claims to be shy but is quite outspoken on Twitter, with over 8,000 tweets, very few of them links.
- @GarinKilpatrick
I always liked delfino, if he can put it together he'll really be player, but he's always seemed like he's trying to do too much in his limited minutes.
- Richard Lawler
Agreed - the key word there was limited. I think he'd play a more major role on this roster as it stands. Like Turkoglu you can stick him anywhere - and there are plenty of roster holes to cover.
- Jed
There are some Iverson in Toronto rumours floating around
- Shey
I'll second that. Not really wanting AI here.
- Abby Martin
It could work If he's willing to realize he's on his last NBA legs and is willing to stay out of the limelight. The Raps could use a change in attitude and the added toughness
- Shey
I thought that a move to Carmelo's Nuggets would have done that, let alone a move to an established Pistons roster. I'm curious at whether he's even thinking of accepting a bench role.
- Jed
from iPhone
Exactly... I don't think any team is looking for Iverson to start (ideally). I think I heard murmurs of Memphis being one of the few teams interested in acquiring him, but in a bench role. I don't think there's a place for an Iverson-type player on a starting line-up of any team looking to be successful. The days of the volume shooter/scorer seem to be numbered.
- Jed
"Selling Americans on professional soccer has been tough. Selling them on women’s team sports has been tougher. Selling them on a new women’s soccer league during a deep recession may prove to be the toughest task of all. W.P.S. has seven teams, and plans to expand. Women’s Professional Soccer, which began its first season in April, is banking on international stars like Kristine Lilly of the U.S. national team. The league said that teams are drawing between 4,000 and 5,000 a game. Yet with high hopes and low expectations, the Women’s Professional Soccer league started its first season in April. The seven-team league has no television rights deal, a meager media budget and just a handful of major sponsors."
- Bill Sodeman
from Bookmarklet
Oh, and I'm with Amani. Girls in soccer gear...
- MVB
+1 MVB & Amani! And where's Brandi Chastain in all of this?
- Bill Sodeman
LOL ... I sometimes get crushes on girls I play soccer with who can really play well and are semi-cute (I think ... ) ... my standards go out the window!!! It all started back in 9th grade ... oh dear.
- Amani
It's OK, you're at FriendFeed. That's why we're here. The first step is admitting that you have a problem. Everyone say "Hi, Amani!" :D
- Bill Sodeman
Note to Self: Look for Adult Soccer Sign-up sheet...
- MVB
Josh, it's been out for a couple of weeks now, hopefully they will enable more features like 1ms30-45s for example, but still lots of potential for video conversations.
- Jason
I just know Mark shot flames from those scary eyes to catch that house on fire. I KNOW it!
- Ladybug Heather
Heather, these eyes are full of lasers. Just don't piss me off!
- Mark Wilson
*offers pan of fresh-baked lasagna, steps backward slowly, open hands in the air... wonders whether flashing boobs might be more effective, especially since it's legal to go topless in Ontario*
- Ladybug Heather
Great mustache! Hopefully, the one I'm currently working on looks as good as yours.
- Brad Williamson
I'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to steal this idea from you and make some of my own. I hope you don't mind, cuz I'm definitely doin' it. I can't stop laughing! LOL! IJSMP!!!!
- Brad Williamson
"We always seem to be the odd man (or woman rather) out at parties because we don't drink. But that doesn't mean we don't have a well stocked liquor cabinet! Why would we need it around if we aren't mixing up a favorite cocktail? Because we just can't get certain tastes in our food without it, especially in baking! It doesn't cost much and can take up very little space in your cupboard, but will make the biggest difference in your end results..."
- Katie Is Immature
from Bookmarklet
"Prosecutors on Thursday charged three gravediggers and a manager in an elaborate scheme in which hundreds of corpses were dug up at a historic black cemetery near Chicago and strewn in a weeded area or reburied with other bodies so that plots could be resold, authorities said."
- Anna Lynn M.
from Bookmarklet
Ok, that's just sick and disrepectful and so so wrong!
- Anna Lynn M.
They both look great! Congratulations to all.
- Louis Gray
Yay! Congrats! (try to steal that stripey blanket from the hospital. they friggen watch those like hawks. I got busted trying to take one when my kid was born 10 years ago. I hope you have better luck.
- Morgan Haley
thanks all! morgan we LOVE those stripey blankets - we'll figure something out ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Like how some people don't need a land line and just have a cel phone, some people will find they don't need a desktop or full-sized laptop and will just have a netbook or an iPhone/iPod Touch
My netbook is almost as good as my desktop computer anyway. Other than the smaller screen size, it does everything just as well.
- Morton Fox
I have to admit that I'm usually quite content with my netbook. But I am hoping to start my second MA soon in a very tech heavy program so I will be purchasing new desktop.
- LLL
I really think these are the only people Google Chrome OS is targeting. Chrome OS won't overthrow Windows anymore than wireless communications have obsoleted land lines.
- Victor Ganata
I don't think Linux distros will succeed on netbooks. It has a laptop form factor and people will expect to run all the apps they're used to. They may be cheap, but people aren't going to to want compromises. It was one of the reasons why almost everyone returned linux versions of the early Asus Eee PC's and swapped them for a Windows version.
- Rodfather
Google Chrome OS won't be a Linux distro though, even if they will be using a Linux kernel. It's targeted to people who are interested in the cloud, which is, for now, an admittedly small number of people. It's certainly not going to convince anyone who needs their desktop apps to switch.
- Victor Ganata
"While it has been hot and muggy outside, my little one and I have been on a sorbet making spree these past few days. It all started as a way to distract his attention and keep him away from destroying the furniture. "Let's make ice cream", I told him. His eyes wide open, he smiled... and that's all it took. Everyday after that, we have been making sorbet while listening to music."
- Abby Martin
from Bookmarklet
"Usain Bolt ran the fourth-fastest 200 meters in history, finishing in 19.59 seconds at the Athletissima meet Tuesday despite chilly weather and a track slowed by a downpour. His time was 0.01 seconds slower than what Tyson Gay ran in May in fair weather and with a breeze at his back. But despite the 60-degree weather and poor track, Bolt showed he was back in top form a year after winning the 100 and 200 in world records at the Beijing Olympics. "I'm in good shape, but I'm not fully ready yet," said the 22-year-old Jamaican, who is aiming to peak for the world championships next month in Berlin. "I still need to work on a few technical things.""
- Richard Lawler
from Bookmarklet
Simply ridiculous, the 4th fastest time EVER, in the rain, against the wind, and "not fully ready"?
- Richard Lawler
He destroyed the rest of the field. It was over before the turn
- Shey
it must be part of the API, since fftogo seems to include a time stamp on the comments
- Trent Olson
I'm sure they do store the timestamp, even if it isn't currently displayed.
- Mack D. Male
Yeah, it's in the api, all comments & likes are timestamped
- Glenn Slaven
I think this is a perfect plan. The only issue I might have is that the time information might take-over the conversations. It might just look more cluttered than FF already is.
- Ryne Nelson
concur, very useful to have. Make it a display option. Those who would think it's clutter can turn it off then.
- Alexander Falk
It is in the API (I use them in fftogo). I vote that the timestamp should appear as text when you hover over the "thought bubble" to the left.
- Benjamin Golub
All comments are time-stamped in AlrertThingy and feedalizr
- Stephen B
from Alert Thingy
What about a comment alert?! How do you follow conversations on ff!?
- TommaSorchiotti
Not sure if this will add to the functionality, but should be something they can try out...
- Dennis Goedegebuure
Not sure a comment alert is necessary. Comments bring the post up to the top of the timeline, which makes it available for anyone who is currently paying attention to Friendfeed. (Not sure why anyone would want their attention brought to Friendfeed if it isn't already there, that would be a huge productivity drain).
- Jason Wehmhoener
Please, please remember that the whole world doesn't run on PDT. I don't want to see timestamps in my FF in gReader and have to always try to guess whether the west coast is 17, 16, or 15 hours behind. If you must display timestamps, please put them in GMT. Setting the timestamps on my FF page/in my FF feed to be correct in my local timezone would be even nicer.
- James Polley
yeah ! and a hide fonction for each comment
- Jonathan
we know which came first... but in n argument the comments can edit. that makes time stamping very important so we know when someone made a change
- NoahDavidSimon
a timeline function in general would be nice, make everything more timeframe friendly
- Ruben Llibre
Show times either in GMT or in my own timezone, and just make it a tooltip for the quote balloon or something. Don't want it to look cluttered.
- Pat Hawks
just make the time relative from each comment, so I know who said what when in perspective. like 5 minutes later Noah David Simon said. <--this opens up
- NoahDavidSimon
Is i really important to know when every single comment is made? Only the last one would really be useful, could have 'last comment on june 1 at..." right beside the date of the post.
- John Duff
If the timestamp is a tooltip, then it isn't really "in the way." Maybe we can have all the timestamps as tooltips, except the most recent comment will have the timestamp printed out below it, like John said.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I am so tired of entering an empty room and talking to myself for twenty minutes. lol
- Russellreno
A needed feature for sure I agree. I suggested this to the FF feedback room some weeks ago.
- Mike Fruchter
<--- try hover your mouse cursor on that little dialog icon
- topo
Sorry it's not more obvious, but if you hover your mouse over the comment icon you will see the time that the comment was made. Thanks for letting us know that it's hard to find! The feedback is much appreciated.
- Ross Miller
I believe they are timestamped but this data is not yet displayed.... you're right !
- David Berrebi
other than timestamp I also want to be able to like the comments individually =]
- Ozgur Duru
This thread shows what happens when nobody reads the comments before theirs
- Rahsheen ™
lol yeah I heard about this yesterday, I wanna watch!
- Shey
Yes. He has been working on this for a while. I don't think he'll use pewter or gang green as accent colors, though.
- Bill Sodeman
Bill- as a Jets fan, I rather like green - but I'm pretty sure Keyshawn won't be incorporating it as part of his colour scheme. Or having Wayne Chrebet on as a guest....
- Abby Martin
Dayum... now I wanna send Keyshawn a flashlight.
- Bill Sodeman
Everytime a graphic designer uses Comic Sans, God kills a bunneh
- Johnny Worthington
I use Comic Sans, and I like it ! I don't let anyone dictate me, which font I use...
- Ryo
Johnny, for me there is no god, that means, there is Comic Sans!
- Ryo
True Comic Sans has its place......... in HELL
- Mo Kargas
MO, there is also no hell, so the place for comic sans is possible my desktop. I posted a picture before.
- Ryo
Someone hasn't been shopping on thursday night around where I live..
- Mo Kargas
What exactly is everybody's issue with Comic Sans? I am simply neutral on the font. There are far bigger font crimes--like anti-aliasing a 6 px Verdana font.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
ITALICS IS USEFUL FOR MAKING THINGS LOOK SLANTY.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I PREFER TO USE THE EMPHASIS TAG TO ALLOW USERS TO STYLE THEIR EMPHASIS BASED ON INDIVIDUAL PREFERENCES. IT IS ALL PART OF ART.
- Thparqui, totally a fake
I prefer Times New Roman or Arial myself. Comic Sans just isn't good, IMHO. Give me Helvetica too. >:)
- Molly
HEY! NO USING CILANTRO BOLD WITHOUT MY PERMISSION!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Mona because my love for you is so strong I have changed my font. :)
- Amani
from IM
I can hardly stand to look at anything other than helvetica, let alone comic sans... @Molly..., Arial = Helvetica..., it's a cheap rip off :)
- Clark the Kittensquisher
Heh, people use custom fonts on IM? I've never noticed, thanks to using XMPP gateways and a client that strips that stuff out.
- Tyson Key
Would you chat with me in wingding? It could get pretty hot.
- Geoff Schultz
I like to send people 1000x1000 pixel BMPs of each letter in a sentence that I want to send them.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I'll take Kozuka Gothic Pro R (seems pretty crisp when printed, too - although it's one of Adobe's rather pricey fonts), or Helvetica any day, or any other sans-serif font that doesn't scream "nursery!". Still, I doubt it'll die any time soon.
- Tyson Key
Did anyone use Geneva, out of interest? I remember using it nearly as much as Helvetica on Mac OS 9 a few years ago, although I'm not sure how much difference there was. (Would need to look at samples again).
- Tyson Key
I am more of a Gill Sans girl myself. I have to have style... however my favorite serif right now is Bleeding Cowboys...
- The Catz Meow
As long as I can read it, I don't give a fig what font you use.
- Ian May
Heya . Happy Birthday. How is it yours is not in my calendar? Hmm...Adding to Plaxo now. (There's an inside joke in there, ask JT or Jbrotherlove about it.)
- Lynne d Johnson
Huh. I've been trying to get Kaia to sing a song with me since ***forever***. It's the hair, isn't it? I have to shave my head before Kaia will sing with me, don't I?
- Steven Perez
you liar, you have not. i'll have to warm up the vocal chords before i unleash this madness on the world. and *i* was not offering to sing with Shey. I was offering Jasmin(e) to sing with Shey.
- Detective Sandy Vagina
Ah, I see. So when are we recording our duet? :)
- Steven Perez
from IM
No. Brain not working. Memory being purged. DELETE DELETE DELETE.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Well I said yes, and we're getting married even if it has to be a shotgun wedding. *looks for ammo*
- Detective Sandy Vagina
STEVEN HAS BEEN CONVERTED TO CORPORATE DRONE IN BORG COLLECTIVE. MARRIAGE IS NOT LOGICAL. ASSIMILATION IN PROGRESS. PLEASE STAND BY.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm not known for giving up *that* easily. Besides, Ethan needs a little cousin. with afro puffs and chubby cheeks that I can dress in fluffy pink dresses.
- Detective Sandy Vagina
NOT UNTIL YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AMERICAN IDOL THING WE DISCUSSED.
- Steven Perez
from IM
*SUBROUTINE 216 ALPHA ENGAGED - BITCHLIPS APPLIED TO STATEMENT* RIIIIIGGGGHHHHT.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Sorry about 3, with you on 7. 17 is very sweet.
- RAPatton
#4, yes. finally back to the point where I can bring out a ton of music back from isolation. some songs were really hard to listen to for the longest time.
- patricia
Actually, that was one of them. She really loved it when I sang "The Longest Time" by Billy Joel.
- Steven Perez
from IM
So, are there any real changes? What did gmail (or we) do to deserve this?
- TobiasVerhoog.com
no questions - !GREAT job on Earth ...... now, couple shortcuts are still missing, and lately I came to think it might be better to have subject box exposed by default ...
- Petr Buben
I was hoping they'd have figured out how to let users delete chats by now.
- Rohit
I reckon they did it because its best as it is for using with wave.. not that I have used wave. ;o) I wish :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
If you check the "Labs" tab in Gmail settings, you'll notice the Back to Beta option: "Soothes the soul by putting the familiar beta sticker back on the Gmail logo."
- Amir Gharaat
That is pretty bad if you can't cope without the beta label!
- Mark O'Neill
Yay for GMail! I wonder how I lived without it, after using many inferior e-mail services over the years, before receiving an invitation from a friend in India, registering and forgetting about it for ages, before making it the only e-mail service I use.
- Tyson Key
Heh, is the "Back To Beta" option in Beta itself? ;)
- Tyson Key
I'm still trying to figure feedly out. It shows some promise, but it isn't clear to me how to get it to behave (and how to navigate it).
- Scott of Two Countries
Still working that out myself, Scott. Would like to know what happens when I hit "share" - not immediately apparent. But great design and promise.
- Martha
It's really great if your a FFer. I tried it months ago and didn't like it, installed it yesterday and have been using it like crazy, they must have changed some things. I just submitted two requests to their getsatisfaction site, so I'm committed.
- Ted Roden
I bet I only use a quarter of its features, but I'm already a fan - much better for looking through image-and-video heavy feeds than the regular GReader interface. And fantastic for checking to see if something's been shared on FriendFeed already. I wish it were Chrome-compatible.
- Jandy
Still not sure exactly how Feedly integrates with FriendFeed.
- David Killen
Are there plans for making it compatible with other browsers?
- Martha
David - it pulls in FF comments on posts, so if you're reading, say, Techcrunch in Feedly, it'll show comments made not only on the actual Techcrunch post imported to FF, but also on instances where other people shared the post on FF. Also, you can share directly to FF, but it's not as powerful as the bookmarklet, so I don't really use that. And it puts a little toolbar on the bottom of...
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- Jandy