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Just received an email saying 'Jesus is coming again soon' - I hope not, I've got no biscuits in...
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is Follow Friday. Who is the person I am least likely to follow? Answer here:
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scobleizer :)
- Amit Nangare
Alex
- Johnny Worthington
me. i'm the infamous FriendFeed thread killer :)
- imabonehead
ashton kutcher
- Kiran Patchigolla
Is the correct answer "Someone who just dumps their feed here and never interacts?"
- Johnny Worthington
Oprah?
- Taehoon Kim
Anyone not on Twitter, Facebook, or FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
@Johnny It is as far as I'm concerned. Though I don't think it's as bad as I used to. If people are going to be aggregation only perhaps they should consider a private feed?
- Mo Kargas
Mo, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just someone Robert probably wouldn't follow :D
- Johnny Worthington
@Johnny I know, I'm on friday arvo ramble mode :D
- Mo Kargas
...there is no spoon.
- .LAG liked that
@grandma
- Nick
dunno... but that avatar photo's starting to scare me.
- David D. Griffith
Anyone w "eggplant" in their handle is probably pretty low in the pecking order.
- Gerald Buckley
I'm gonna hold out to see who wins your #unfollowsaturday hheh. I'm probably more interested in your "Subscribe Sunday" anyhow.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Anyone who uses twitter as a blog post rss feed. bleh.
- Eric Gonzalez
Someone who signed up a year ago and has never posted anything.
- Eric Florenzano
Barack Obama.
- bnoise
L. Ron Hubbard
- Jemm
Don't you follow everybody though Robert. Jus Joking. I wouldn't follow Charles Manson, I heard he is a killer!
- aerobroken
Oprah?
- Kevin Eklund
Scoble follows Mike Arrington -and he NEVER participates here.
- Roberto Bonini
Is FriendFeed FollowFriday FFFF or F(4)?
- Anthony Citrano
from BuddyFeed
I'm starting ho think that here we should follow few people as possible and start use groups better. Unlike in twitter, in FF, with a powerful use or filters and the ability "collect" threads (with comments and likes) in "My Discussions" is possible to unfollow a lot of peoples (friends, smarts, and scobles excluded ;D )
- CantorJF
If "social media expert" or "social media junkie" are in the description, it is an automatic no go. Edited to add: on twitter anyway. On FF I pretty much follow anyone.
- Martha
Veronica Belmont (Look) http://www.thetechnewsblog.com/2009...
- Jim Connolly
Yourself, because you already know what you are going to say.
- Jeff Weber
Me, @ZacharyTG
- Zachary TG
me @techwag - I only need one more person to hit 400 which would be a milestone for me. Pretty cool actually, that would make twitter the place I am the most followed. 257 on FF, 193 on Facebook, 200 readers on RSS on average, 200 per day on techwag, seeing if I can just hit 400. Kinda funny really.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Thanks hit 401 - Thank you to the two people who signed up - r/d
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Me?
- Kol Tregaskes
"follow as few people as possible"! - ok, get your point @luccio but still think social should be a central aspect in social media.
- Peter Efland
and to answer scoble's question: any of the apparently gazillion turks on friendfeed.
- Peter Efland
probably me Robert <LOL> but I think you do follow me, so the point is moot!
- Allen Harkleroad
@twitshitters
- Rob
OpenDNS Protects Against the Conficker Worm [OpenDNS]
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Yesterday we offered up a guide to protecting your Windows PC from the Conficker worm, set to start doing ... something today. Free net service OpenDNS is another option for anyone concerned about today's not-so-funny happening. Why? OpenDNS has been tracking the Conficker worm and blocking the sites it keeps reaching out to for its nefarious further instructions. As OpenDNS' David Ulevitch puts it: The latest variant of Conficker is now churning through 50,000 domains per day in an attempt to thwart blocking attempts. Consider this: at any given time we have filters that hold well over 1,000,000 domains (when you combine our phishing and domain tagging filters). 50,000 domains a day isn't going to rock the boat. In other words, even if Conficker has made it onto your PC, or a PC somewhere in your house/office, OpenDNS will likely stop the worm from contacting the site that would tell it what to do. If you're still using your Road Runner/Comcast/Verizon DNS pre-sets on your home...
Newspapers are Dying, Get Over It - http://jeffnolan.com/wp...
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The Seattle P-I went web only today, ending a 146 year run as a print newspaper. What is the key lesson to learn today? If anything it is that the current newspaper business model is unsustainable and building an online presence with the goal of supporting the print business is a loser, it prolongs death [...]
BBC NEWS | Technology | 'Super-fast' game download launch - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1...
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"A British company has launched a new way of downloading games."
- Kol Tregaskes
What are the best practices for using photos from other sites in a blog?
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Ask, credit, and link.
- Kevin Fox
same for personal blogs and commercial blogs?
- Engin Erdogan
I say credit and link...asking is waaay too much effort and long.
- Zee.
Kevin is dead on. However, if you work in education (ie, university,etc) you can within your classroom, use photos freely IF it is truly for educational purposes: discussion. Still, if its going to be permanent OR you are going to market your curriculum, then you need to make sure of permission and get your credits and sources documented thoroughly. Blogs are becoming de riguer in online classrooms, so students are allowed to do this with only a "Source://///" caption and a "(1)" in the footnote.
- Melanie Reed
Zee, I agree in practice that is what most of us do on the fly and we "get by with it" so to speak because we have given credit. The link is the key here. You are not really "taking the photo" and there has already been an Internet law case involving just that. The guy got "off" because he did just "link". But I think the day is approaching when you will see more cases calling this practice into question. We might do well to begin looking for alternatives to getting content up in a timely manner.
- Melanie Reed
i think asking makes sense. though, if asking is the case, a post draft should be 2-3 days ahead of its time, assuming it would take that much for the source to respond... this undermines the timing of the post, i wonder if there are other practices.
- Engin Erdogan
It is an important question for pros and educators. But think of potential unintended consequences of a harsh law. Your grandma starts a blog and, after hours of sweating, finally figures out how to include a picture into her blog post. Perhaps hot-linked. No credit or link. Way over her head technically. She is proud of herself of the accomplishment. And then there is a knock on the door....
- Bora Zivkovic
About 1% of the Earth's population blogs. As more and more start doing so, they will inevitably make these noob mistakes. Should we jail them all? Have you never done the same error when you just started blogging years ago?
- Bora Zivkovic
@Bora, makes sense. But you have to be sensitive to the originators' rights too. What is your suggestion?
- Engin Erdogan
The original question said nothing about law, but only asked about 'best practices'. Best practices are "ask, credit, and link". Second-best practices are less than that, and 'legal' practices are beneath that. I only bring this up to make sure we're discussing the same thing. Nobody expects Grandma to stick to best practices.
- Kevin Fox
I agree, this should remain within the realm of 'best practices' and not law. Best practices are learned over time, usually by being told by commenters when you make a mistake. It should not be deserving of capital punishment to make newbie mistakes in a broadly democratic medium where everyone is encouraged to participate.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora and Kevin, The sad thing is that it may very well be the "newbie" who winds up being the "example case". Right now the universities are making it a practice to teach everyone what the in and outs of ownership and plagiarism are about. Having worked with Instructors on their educational web sites, I come up with this frequently....and inevitably you are always asked:"Is this yours or someone else's photo?" I agree with you in feeling: it is a pain to ask. But its beyond BP already.
- Melanie Reed
All I can say is be careful of the Copyright
- Rob Cairns
I think law along with other variables inform a best practice in this case. Therefore it's part of the discussion while it may not be the core of it
- Engin Erdogan
Asking for use might be too much effort but it's certainly appreciated when you are asked for use, i.e. on the receiving end. It also helps in that the photo owner has the option to link to the article, which I do every time one of my photos are used, and the blogger gets a little more traffic their way.
- Kol Tregaskes
I'd say link directly to the page the image is on (not the direct link to the JPEG or whatever), credit under the photo or at some point in your article, and, if you can, ask for permission, especially for copyrighted material.
- Kol Tregaskes
IMO, for personal credit & link; for Biz, ask, credit, link. (remove if requested)
- clarke thomas
For my blog I only use Wikimedia Commons images, Flickr photos with the right Creative Commons settings and company logos which are usually fair game. I always credit other people's work and link to the original.
- Martin Bryant
Unless they are open/publicly available, don't - Pictures do speak 1000 words, but that picture has to be created by self - makes it more credible and truly to fit what you say.
- Jayavasanthan J
how about: credit, link, notify originator (for use in retrospect), remove if the originator does not approve. would that be disrespectful to the originator?
- Engin Erdogan
Engin, as a photographer myself I'd say this better than not asking at all. Sometimes you need to see your pic on the page or in the article first so I'd be happy with this but others might not.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ask, Credit and Link is fine, but also consider the problems with "Hotlinking". Sometimes it is better to download a copy of the image and store it locally on your own server and NOT to 'steal' bandwidth from the person hosting the image. Nothing winds up a web master more than bandwidth stealing by people hotlinking images. Always credit the original source without fail. Respect the author's wishes. But never "hotlink".
- Chris Wright
To clarify, by 'link' I mean provide a link to the original source. I don't advocate hot-linking, especially without explicit permission.
- Kevin Fox
Apologies Kevin, I didn't mean to imply you were suggesting "hotlinking" when you said "link". I just wanted to make the point to any other people reading that it "hotlinking" is considered bad unless permission is expressly given and is one situation when you should always ask permission.
- Chris Wright
It's already here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
- Melanie Reed
Some relevant action here: http://fairshare.cc/
- Engin Erdogan
For blogs, do you like to see the full article on the blog page or just excerpts? Same question for the RSS feed??
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I'm happy either way, the former just means a little more scrolling up and down but if the general census is excerpts then I' might change my page/feed. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I like to see it all.
- Ken Morley
excerpts 1/no duplicate content 2/faster page load ...and I'm all for full feed, the others are no good
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
All. I hate clicking 'more' or even worse those stupid page numbers. If I wanted to read a magazine...
- Admiral Anika
All. If it's super long or with a ton of graphics, then I don't mind clicking through, but in general, I'd rather have it all there at once. Same goes for feeds - I just about won't subscribe to feeds that only give excerpts. And agree with Anika, posts with numbered pages are infuriating.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Either way for the blog page, but for the RSS feed I want the full article!
- Corvida
Right, OK, ta everyone.
- Kol Tregaskes
Either or
- Shevonne
I'd also agree with Corvida. Either way for the main index / category / archive page, (with the full article on the main landing page). Feeds should be provided in full, and if scraping becomes a problem, there are better methods to fighting this than cutting the feed to an excerpt.
- Chris Wright
What are you essential WordPress plugins?
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For example, what pluings to do you use for Flickr, caching, SEO/meta tags, Google Analytics/Sitemaps, Twitter and FriendFeed?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm not a big Flickr user, but for some of the others - All In One SEO, Super Cache, Ultimate Google Analytics, Google XML Sitemaps, Akismet for spam of course, WPTouch for iPhone friendly theme, Tweet This, Subscribe Remind (reminder to RSS subscribe for new visitors), Subscribe to Comments
- Patrick Jordan
Patrick, I have most of those listed, yes very important.
- Kol Tregaskes
Here's what I use: Disqus, All In One SEO, Clicky Web Analytics, FeedBurner FeedSmith, Google Analytics for WordPress, Google XML Sitemaps, MediaRSS, Redirection, WP-Cache, FriendFeed Comments
- Michael Hocter
Ready? Cuz this is a huge list: Akismet, All In One SEO, Category Images, Clean Archives Reloaded, Disquis, Feedburner Feedsmith, Friendfeed Comments, Google XML Sitemaps, MediaRSS, PingPressFM, Visual Recent Posts, Wordpress.com Stats, WP Postratings, WP-PostViews, WP-Stats, WP Movie Ratings, Yet Another Related Posts Plugin
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Sean, some new ones there for me, sill check them out. Thanks, Michael.
- Kol Tregaskes
Disqus/Intense Debate (different blogs), Zemanta, FriendFeed Comments, FlickrRSS, Feedburner, SEO All-In-One, Most Tweeted Commented, Most Recently Tweeted. Not sure about the names of the Twitter plugins.
- Shevonne
Oh yeah Akismet
- Shevonne
Sociable, Disqus, MediaRSS (for posting to FF!), the rest are built in now. Akismet (comes with) is necessary.
- anna sauce
I'm glad it comes with Akismet now, makes sense.
- Kol Tregaskes
disqus/intense debate, ff comments,media rss, platinum seo, feedburner feedsmith, wp cache, YARPP, askimet
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Amber, FF comments for me too... once I get it working. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
did you ever get it running?
- Amber, Random Time Lord
there might be an issue where if you update to FF too fast it confuses it. You may have to manually associate it with a FF thread, sometimes mine does that
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Amber, never got it working. I was actually very quite on FF this weekend as I worked on my sites for most of it. Posted a few things here and there not much. Ah well, I'll stick to FF until I can get that working.
- Kol Tregaskes
i think BudyPress is one of the most innovative plugins . possibly the future of the 'fluid social web' http://cli.gs/Yqh6Gv
- Alensa
Akismet. Too much spam otherwise. What else do I use? The Stats plugin is useful. Google sitemaps generator. Reply-to-comments so that emails go out when there are replies to a comment someone subscribed to. I'd like to use the FriendFeed plugin, but my posts don't get discussed on FriendFeed (more on Twitter, which isn't really great for discussion)
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
I'll try to only include ones I didn't see above...Add to Any, flickrRSS, Ozh' Who Sees Ads, WP Post Ratings, WP-Simple Viewer, pageMash, Social Homes
- Justin Korn
Zong is also a great plugin if you are into monetizing premium content
- Alensa
Kol, do you use the WP interface to create posts?
- Amber, Random Time Lord
AVH Amazon, cforms II, flickrRSS, Math Comment Spam Protection, Netflix-X2, Picasa Photos, Publish To Facebook, Search Everything, Sticky Menu, TwitterCounter, Twitter for Wordpress, WP-EMail, WP-Print
- Patty Bradley
I use All in one SEO pack, Google XML Sitemaps, Sociable, Tweetroll, No Ping Wait, among others included.
- Carlos Lorenzo
Akismet, All in One SEO Pack, Google XML Sitemaps, FriendFeed Comments, Dagon Design Sitemap Generator, and a few others
- Tamar Weinberg
Add to Any Share/Save/Bookmark Button http://tinyurl.com/wp-a2a-...
- Pat
Pat, I saw that while browsing yesterday. I'm currently using ShareThis which I think covers similar services.
- Kol Tregaskes
I would have to agree Akismet sits up there pretty high.
- Sean
What not to do if you are looking for a job at Facebook:
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A friend at Facebook told me this story last week. A guy advertised on Facebook saying he was looking for a job. That part worked great. He got noticed. But he screwed it up. How? He linked those ads to his resume on LinkedIn, which is Facebook's competitor. No job, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
Was there meant to be a link to the story in there somewhere?
- Chris Wright
Chris: I just posted the story in the comment above yours. That's the story. Right here. Sorry, I designed that part for when it gets over to Twitter. So you won't see a link here on friendfeed, only over on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Moral of the story is that if you are going to be creative, that's very cool, but make sure you don't link to the competitor of the site you are pitching for a job.
- Robert Scoble
No probs. I just saw the "click here for the story" and thought it was making reference to something elsewhere.. (No need for me to click anywhere in Twhirl/Firefox cos the story was right underneath it). Doh, apologies, I read it too literally... :)
- Chris Wright
Hummm your twitter link just comes here, again nothing useful to see. Sure the story about the guy using LinkedIn to apply for a Facebook job is amusing the annoyance is that your twitter just links to your friendfeed which contextually says "click here" for the story and there is no link. This is one of the many reasons I never use friendfeed. Contextually thing do not translate and It's nothing more than an glorified RSS reader for social networking with comments. Woopie!
- Christopher Mercer
Christopher: OK, I fixed the wording so it works better here. Happy now? You are wrong, totally wrong, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
Spidra: how did you ever come to the conclusion that LinkedIn is not a competitor of Facebook? It most certainly is. So is Twitter. So is friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
That's ok Robert. You can say I am wrong as much as I think in this case you are. That does not necessarily mean you (or I) are correct either. Let's just agree to disagree.
- Christopher Mercer
Christopher: no, that's not how this game works. You pointed out something that now is totally wrong. friendfeed is NOT just an aggregator of social networking. If it were, it would not have let me edit the headline in response to reader demand. friendfeed is a LOT more than that and to say something so clueless without backing it up is pretty lame, dude.
- Robert Scoble
Spidra: they both are social networks. They both are competing for your attention and time. They both are competing for advertisers. Facebook is increasingly becoming more and more serious over time and Facebook certainly wants business users.
- Robert Scoble
I've never looked at a LinkedIn resume, but I suspect that it would be a whole lot more professional looking than any one on Facebook. If Facebook were smart, then they'd have interviewed him and asked why he'd used their competitor's site rather than their own: he may have some great ideas for improving Facebook's offering in that respect.
- James Myatt
Christopher: friendfeed is NOT an RSS aggregator at all, especially when it comes to Tweets. Those come here over a protocol that has nothing to do with RSS. So, when you say it's an RSS aggregator you are totally wrong.
- Robert Scoble
You can also make the argument that every website is a competitor of Facebook's, especially a personal blog, but I'm sure that Facebook would see personal blogs as positive.
- James Myatt
Robert are you still obsessing over my comment? And you accuse me of being lame.... time to move on!
- Christopher Mercer
So is every company that generates a network of relationships in the same market and as a result of that, a competitor? I understand that LinkedIn is moving more in the direction of a facebook, but at this point, the offerings of L and F are quite different.
- sdfx
James: you might have a point there. From what it sounded like there were other problems with the resume which got more attention because of where it was located. It's just that if you are going to take so much time to get Facebook employees' attention you might want to think it through just a little bit more. This is quite a common attitude by the way. Try pitching Coke while wearing a Pepsi pin, for instance. You'll get thrown out.
- Robert Scoble
This post got my attention as I spent quite a while trying to work out where the story (link) was. I trust someone (Scoble?) institutes a consistent and recognised convention for original FriendFeed content which will be cross-posted to Twitter.
- Conor Ogle
Christopher: it pisses me off when I see people get things wrong and don't correct them or admit they are wrong. Thanks for playing! (I admit I'm wrong all the time, there's no harm in it).
- Robert Scoble
sdfx: they might look different but they are both social networks and are competing over the same users and same advertisers.
- Robert Scoble
Conor: I'm still playing around with how to use both services for their strengths. Twitter is great because of the ability to notify people of something with only 140 characters of text. Friendfeed is great because you can post video, photos, maps, etc and write longer posts, which is why I did this here. Also, everyone who participates gets run underneath the original item, as you can see here, which makes participating a lot more fun, a lot more interesting, and much more valuable over time.
- Robert Scoble
Wait now, did this person actually get an interview with facebook? OR use facebook to pimp his linkedin resume, which according to Robert had "other problems", or apply for a facebook job with his linkedin resume? Which is it? You know, back to the original point of "where is the link" to a news article covering this fluff piece so we don't have to rely on consistent updates on the situation from Robert.
- Christopher Mercer
Interesting how some Twitterers don't want to come here and leave a message here. That means that their Tweet will probably never be heard. Like @PaulWalls Tweet here: http://twitter.com/PaulWal... "You fit all of the qualifications, but... oh, I see you haven't sworn allegiance to our company "prior" to being hired."
- Robert Scoble
Christopher: he advertised on Facebook employees pages, is what I was told, looking for a job at Facebook (getting a job at Facebook right now is VERY sought after because Facebook is seeing HUGE growth and is headed toward an IPO). He was all about getting a job at Facebook, but put his resume over on LinkedIn, which soured many people on the deal and got them to look more critically at his resume than they otherwise might have.
- Robert Scoble
have you noticed a lot more use twitter though? i see more "celebs", and i mean proper celebs using twitter but not many clueing onto this just yet..
- Terry O'Fee
Anyone who thinks that twitter & linkedin are competitors to facebook simply doesn't understand the market. The three clearly provide different services. Besides, many users have integrated these services such that each service's strengths provied, together, a service that none could provide alone.
- adam naranjo
competitors and none of them offer paid services yet. i find that even funnier. but i dont know much about linkedin, but most of the people who i know who use it, do so in a more business, worklike, professional manner.
- Terry O'Fee
I agree with Spidra. LinkedIn *is* a professional network, Facebook doesn't know which it wants to be, snowball fight or professional network. Never seen a Facebook profile set up to be a resume and not sure I'd want to.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
of course, this is assuming a highlander scenario - there can be only one! - when it comes to competition in the social networking scene. The guy did make a schoolboy mistake in not placing his CV onto facebook when he was seeking their employment.
- alphaxion
Moral of the story: Facebook is not a place you want to work at if they want their employees give up everything else. Mind you, it totally fits their "walled garden" image. UPDATE: Yes, I meant Facebook :D
- Roland Hesz
Roland: you meant Facebook, right?
- Robert Scoble
That's ridiculous, someone from Facebook HR called me after seeing my Linkedin profile about a month ago. You think they can afford to ignore talent regardless of how they find it? No way!
- Jason Wehmhoener
"Competitors" are so last decade. Focus on the user, all else will follow.
- EricaJoy
IMHO Facebook and LinkedIn are competitors in the same way that a bicycle and a Boeing 757 are competitors. Yes, you can use them both to get to the same place, but their domains overlap in the smallest degree. Facebook might want to attract business users, but they're not doing anything to support that or make it easier. For example, on LinkedIn I can search for people with a specific skill; on Facebook, I can't view their information unless I've "friended" them first. Not much use for recruiting.
- Glen Mistletoe
Does Facebook have a idea what their platform is? Google is selling ad's. Microsoft is selling software. What is Facebooks main goal?
- CW™
@Just CW selling user's trends and profiles?:(
- Simone Lovati
When I think of my professional information I do not think of Facebook. Why would I want potential employeers looking at my Facebook profile where people post stupid crap pictures that have nothing to do with their professions.
- CW™
Facebook doesn't have a reputable hub to host resumes and professional info yet (Notes is not the answer). Many employers block facebook (but not LinkedIn) so therefore, Facebook is being short sighted in their search process. -1 Facebook.
- Amani
@amani - Agreed. This is shooting the messenger. If he used LinkedIn to host stuff, maybe Facebook should be looking at their own feature set. Maybe they should hire him because he sees the feature gap.
- You.
I understand the Facebook's point of view.It's usually wise to mix social medias. But for instance, it's not so difficult to put a resume on Facebook.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
That's a dumb statement, Robert. In other words, if you forward what you say here to Twitter, we shouldn't take you seriously? Even if FriendFeed is better for these kinds of discussions and Twitter is better for mass marketing? LinkedIN is better at CVs than Facebook, they are not competing on that particular feature. I do agree that he could've found a creative, more inbred solution to the problem, but the guy wants a job for god's sake.
- Vincent van Wylick
Vincent: sorry, I sort of see Facebook's point of view. Find a way to do it on Facebook. Don't take my customers off somewhere else.
- Robert Scoble
How do Facebook and LinkedIn compete exactly? The former is for social-social networking and the latter is professional/business social networking. They have completely different feature sets, use cases, and markets. It's like saying that Quicken competes with Adobe Photoshop because they're both desktop software packages - it just doesn't make sense.
- Eric P
@Eric P: There is a large overlap. Many folks are removing the walls between professional and social. I had a few beers on Friday with someone who is hiring me to do a photoshoot. Is my relationship with that person social or professional? I'd say the answer is yes.
- Aaron B. Hockley
There's no law of the universe stating that you can only have a profile or one or that you can't friend someone on both - that still doesn't mean they're competing. I wouldn't send someone my resume through Facebook and I wouldn't post pictures of myself drunk on Linkedin. As long as both focus on their core audience and purpose, they're not competing in any real sense.
- Eric P
Several commenters seem to be confused about the nature of Facebook's targeted advertising and how it relates to this story. ██The protagonist of this story bought and ad on Facebook that would only be presented to other FB users whose profiles stated that they were current FB employees.██ This is an effective and relatively low-cost method of directly targeting the folks at a company you want to work for. Given that this ad is only viewed by FB employees it makes sense to put a tailored *copy*..
- Daniel J. Pritchett
of his resume on FB to be linked to from this ad. There's no reason he can't maintain a more mainstream LinkedIn resume to use everywhere else. This guy was 90% of the way there with a creative marketing strategy using FB's tools, but he slipped and fell by using LinkedIn for his ad. That said, I agree with the poster who said that FB shouldn't hold it against him but should take it as a lesson that they are lacking in the professional space.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Here is a great article on some graduating college seniors who used Facebook to target their preferred employers prior to graduation: http://www.onedayonejob.com/blog... None of them got jobs this way but it was still very affordable and an interesting experiment.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
If Facebook thinks they are actually a competitor to LinkedIn's core value proposition they need to actually address that use case directly.
- Sam Pullara
Great point Daniel. It is good to understand more of the story with some additional context.
- Amani
I imagine Facebook already has too many people to justify cost versus revenues. Before you know it Facebook becomes yet another corporation (there goes the magic)
- Alexander van Elsas
FB has said they will not be entering into professional networking. Mark Z said @ f8 ..that area can be satisfied through apps. Interesting disc. above, especially "removing the walls between professional and social". Not one for self marketing, but we are currently testing a professional network app on FB to launch in 2-3 days that allows users to network professionally just like you can on LI, while still keeping your social profile separate. Imagine an extra tab on FB called "Work" or "Resume"
- Brenda McLaren
10 Reasons Why You Should Sign Up for FriendFeed - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Twitter Limits Potential App Growth - How This Hurts Our Users - http://blog.socialtoo.com/2009...
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How can I like this friendfeed :p We need another link. Maybe hate is too strong a word, so how about YUK! then. Great post Jesse.
- DC Crowley
Thanks DC!
- Jesse Stay
I think limiting API calls makes sense from a resource conservation (ultimately cost) perspective. I also happen to believe they will offer premium ($) API access and/or begin to provide analytics tools that many 3rd parties currently provide. It certainly is tricky to build a business on top of another business that has yet to reveal its own monetization strategy. One thing to be certain of in business is that one's "partners" will never sacrifice revenue in order to assure other's revenue.
- coldbrew
Sure they need to limit and control their API usage but they're different ways to do that. The API itself is too simple in a sense that 3rd party apps need to make a lot of calls to retrieve the information they need. Twitter MUST improve their API.
- fbrunel
I think there is very little chance the API will be tweaked in such a way to allow for bulk operations to be performed quickly. That would allow the value of Twitter to be slowly assumed by applications built on top. Whatever type of platform this is ("microblogging" is not adequate b/c it misses the near real-time and multi-protocol pieces), I'm sure as shit who nailed the execution (branding, very open API, gradual user engagement). They have mind share, so don't become adversarial, and hedge your bets.
- coldbrew
Why doesn't Twitter just ask these heavy users to pay for access to super high rate limits. They could take the money they make from charging and just add servers to handle the increased load. They already have a modular system, they should be able to throw servers to scale things. I don't know how far along they are in this rewrite in technology, but adding hardware should suffice until they can release that.
- Jared Mehle
I was thinking 6 months ago that a business model could emerge around API call limits.
- Mark Scrimshire
Let's think about finding another way. A parallel Twitter Search Repository perhaps http://bit.ly/Jt2Nl
- Mark Scrimshire
The Game Must Go On - http://blog.socialtoo.com/2009...
Nicholas James, Chris Wright, Mike Fruchter and Louis Gray liked this
The Semantic Web in Action: Scientific American - http://digg.com/softwar...
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it's being Sold wrong - the 90% of Peeps who don't know won't get it* + the other 10% on Twitter haven't pulled da Pickle outta there Ass yet*
- Billy Warhol
Israel Soldier _Palestine Girl - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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wow, courageous and powerful
- B2B Specialist
Cosa vuol dimostrare il video? La questione è più complessa di così
- Maurizio Goetz
that girls got some balls... right or wrong, don't care... but that took some courage to do that... Considering she had a handbag on, big coat etc, I'm surprised she didn't get shot before she made it to the soldiers. Where was the video taken btw? (I didn't understand a word of the commentary). Be interesting to read the full story on that video. Thanks...
- Chris Wright
Wow - courage plus, and a girl. Who said girls don't have balls?
- Steve Tuffill
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Thanks for the Outfits, April!
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Matthew and Sarah say thank-you to a fellow parent who knows premies well.
- Louis Gray
from email
Love Sarah's smile in the 2nd one... :-) Now I have that 80's song stuck in my head. "Sarah... Smile..." Hall & Oates?
- Lisa L. Seifert
omgzbbq!!! How cute is that. the shirt might as well say feed feed tho. :-)
- jeneane sessum
jeneane: HA! :-) Feed Feed. Love it.
- Lisa L. Seifert
Their mom loves Feed Feed as well. :-)
- Louis Gray
Is this a product placement? ;-)
- Jan Horna
Are these the friends to be fed? :)
- 9000
lol @ jeneane , and 10/10 on the cute scale...
- Chris Wright
In the 2nd pic it looks like Sarah is saying "Hey peeps!"
- Yolanda
shouldn't those shirts say "babyfeed" given the placement of the logo?? :-)
- Stephen Roberts
CUTE -- youngest FriendFeeders yet!!
- Susan Beebe
Aren't there tshirts for tiny friendfeeders?
- jcunwired
You're welcome!! I'm so glad it fits them so nicely. Thanks for Thomas's presents as well (Thomas the tank toy and book). Camilla took the toy and actually put it in Thomas's crib because she knew it was for him.
- April Buchheit
Awww all round, to the outfits, to the cute babies, and to Camilla giving her brother his toy.
- Clare Dibble
awwwwwwwwwwwww
- Sarah Perez
cayooot!
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Kawaii
- Mike Reynolds
awwww i wuv
- Gordon Swaby
awwwww!!! they're the cutest i've ever seen! my heart melts... i think i've fallen in love with them!
- Zhey Chua
who doesn't love typo Nazis? they add so much value to the community
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I'm so lucky, I've had two of them correct me today
- Scott Beale
Scott, same here - the iPhone has some embarassing 'corrections' sometimes!
- Sally Church
it's like grammarians- refuse to accept that language is flowing & flawed... or maybe I just need an excuse to be lazy ;)
- anna sauce
Sally, good point, the iPhone forces typos if you are not careful
- Scott Beale
Yup, and it looks fine on the screen but hit send and the last word can go awry!
- Sally Church
Top of the food chain in terms of participation.
- Hutch Carpenter
agree with the concept, but hate the use of the term nazi to describe it http://tinyurl.com/6h8ecn
- Jeremy Toeman
I'm glad that I 1. am fluent in typonese and b. never make any speeling errors.
- Mike Lewis
No one likes typos but who really gives a crap? Like JMS said, these are just people with too much time on their hands. Get a life, get a boy/girlfriend, get laid. If you're getting laid, there's no way you'll care about someone else's typos.
- Mark Wilson
thank you, mark. i was just bemoaning the seeming celibacy of FF the other day, and i'm glad to see someone at least mention getting laid.
- J450N
I like it when the only argument to a blog post someone has is to go typo nazi. I make sure to give them lots to work with.
- Tac Anderson
The radio station I work at has a lady who calls our afternoon guy and tries to correct his speach all the time. Bad thing is he went to school in Germany so he say's stuff a little different.
- Squid
@Jason glad I could class up the joint.
- Mark Wilson
also with blog posts (and even FF) at least you can correct a typo, unlike Twitter where it will remain for all eternity
- Scott Beale
I am a very poor speller; but so was Einstein. I see no corelation between spelling profiecency and intelliengce.
- Robert Hafer
Sheik'sPier dissagreeze.
- Richard ¿digame? Walker
Neither do I, Robert. But there is the issue of making your writing comprehensible to others. Not a matter of intelligence but courtesy.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
@jack carlson. wot a lorra borox. a few errors hear and their shouldn't make to much of a difference. Far too many people just want an easy life and even the thought of having to exercise their brain get's them all excited. They waste more effort in moaning that they would in correcting the errors themselves on the fly.
- Chris Wright
from twhirl
Do I want people who read my stuff to be paying attention to the words I misspell or the ideas I'm trying to communicate?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Maybe intentional typos will get you attention and some new followers? lmao
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Jack, exactly what I'm thinking as well.
- Scott Beale
bad spelling is just lazy. misplaced fingers happen all the time, but deliberately not correcting typos is bad..
- embee
Godwin's law strikes twitter
- Glen Mistletoe
Could you please capitalize the first letters in your sentences, and end the second sentence with a punctuation. Thank you. ;)
- Tim Hoeck
@Tim EOL *is* punctuation
- Kevin L
And then, look at this: http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/~mattd...
- Robert Hafer
I just received Jason Calacanis' first email "blog." I'm very saddened that he decided to go back to email for a whole number of reasons. Let's talk about them.
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Push model of communication vs. conversation?
- Sprague D
Maybe you could start listing the reasons you know
- Brian Sullivan
Email seems so closed off - it prohibits growth. At least, that's how I see it...
- George Smith
I just received Calacanis' first email newsletter. Which is really his replacement for not blogging anymore. He makes several great points. 1. That commenters have destroyed blogging. 2. That Nick Denton's style of paying for page views instead of smart ideas has destroyed blogging. 3. That he seeks out a more intimate conversation. 4. That email is it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Please forward them to post@posterous.com. Heheh. : )
- Erhan Erdogan
I am saddened because all of this is true. Except by going back to email he's taken us back to the 1990s where I can't share his ideas with others (he only will accept 1,000 subscribers, he says). He also is cluttering my email stream which is cluttered beyond breaking. Imagine if everyone did email newsletters...
- Robert Scoble
I don't know about you folks, but I just don't need any more email. I can't keep up with what I already have. I've started replying to my co-worker's emails with Office Communicator, in an attempt to ease the deluge. You'd think IT folks would know that it's not always necessary to hit "Reply All."
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
I think it harkens back to the glory days of yesteryear when there were email lists like the lockergnome. Maybe it's just nostalgia. I don't have a problem with commentors on my blog, but then, I don't have the numbers that Calacanis or Scoble have either. He says he has a problem and that an email list will alleviate those problems. We'll just have to see what happens and see if his experiment does work.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Here it is: http://robert_zrxrc.posterous.com/ -- he already has 1,100 subscribers.
- Robert Scoble
FF is the answer, possible a FF' room. Once FF becomes mainstream as a sharing and communication tool bogging activity will decrease significantly: if not FF will become the de-facto “bogging” platform.
- Joao
"I'm very saddened" ? what makes you sad and why ?
- Peter Dawson
that's one looong e-mail
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Robert - Jason hasn't taken anybody to the 90's except maybe himself. The whole thing smacks of ego anyway. I think better just to ignore Jason (I mostly did that before as well so not much change for me).
- Brian Sullivan
Peter: because what Jason says is true. It's why I've slowed down blogging lately. Blogging used to be about discussing ideas. Lately it's been about getting on Techmeme. I share the blame in that part of things. But even while that's been going on I've tried to read many times more stuff than what I write. It's why I still read hundreds of RSS feeds and participate here on FF (I like many, many, many times more items than what I start). But I hate his choice of media. Email is just the worst place.
- Robert Scoble
The remark on commenters is disingenuous -- he regularly turned off commenting on his blog when he didn't want to deal with blowback, unlike Robert who rarely disengages. For a guy who made $25 million off blogging, turning his back on the medium seems like bad faith, to me.
- Sprague D
funny the other day his max number of "subscribers" was going to be hard and fast at 750 and now it is 1,000 ... as usual he can't seem to make up his mind [edit] now I see it is up to 1,100
- Steven Hodson
I think the cap on subscriptions is interesting. Pushing the scarcity button ("Act now -- supplies are limited!") is considered a fairly low Jedi Mind Trick. [waves hand] Wasn't the cap 500 at first? Then 750? Now it's 1,000? Because you can only have an "intimate conversation" with 1,000 people? hahahahahahah...
- Karim
He *is* blogging -- after a sorts. Commenters haven't destroyed blogging, but many comments are noise and add no value. This is where the site owner needs to put on big boy pants and function as an editor. I can't fault Denton for paying for views. How does this affect Calacanis' site? Seeking Intimacy? Oh, the burdens of popularity ... ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Brian: I agree with that. I subscribed, but with my luck the newsletter will get thrown into my spam folder. Interesting that many bloggers started out with newsletters (Chris Pirillo and Dave Winer both had famous email newsletters before they moved to blogs).
- Robert Scoble
I don't like it , if you limit the communicatin to just who gets your email. Then it's a monologue not a conversation
- Kim Landwehr
Another place Jason is right? The need to have one-to-one smart conversations. If I didn't have those every day and just did my blog I'd be one sad puppy. It's the smart conversations that matter. Most of which I don't have an audience for while I'm having them.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Will you go on forwarding these on posterous? : ) I subscribe your posterous. ; ) Thanks for sharing.
- Erhan Erdogan
@robert , "Blogging used to be about discussing ideas. Lately it's been about getting on Techmeme." Agreed, but you can't solve a problem with the same mindset that created the problem and that goes to all the A-listers too.. They have always fought / jostled , manipulated the SM streams to get to their way to for google juice, page views/hits. etc Now all of a sudden, its like wait.. whatever happened to the original idea of exchanging ideas ? Whatever happened to passion and integrity ?
- Peter Dawson
Erhan: I'll forward them when he has something smart to say. (and I remember to do it). :-)
- Robert Scoble
Peter now you know why I've focused so much of my energy on FriendFeed. I'm having a lot smarter conversations here than other places.
- Robert Scoble
I'll take the contrarian view: This email was the most relaxed, best, most enjoyable, insightful writing I've seen from Jason in a while. I'm an old school McLuhanite wrt the medium being the message. But sometimes, the message is the message. Sometimes the author is the message. Gotta let an author choose the medium. If this change boosts the quality of Jason's output, I'm glad he did it.
- Michael Markman
Scoble: I think you're wrong about blogging being all "about getting on Techmeme." As a blogger in a niche community, I can tell you that the VAST majority of bloggers out there don't care about or plan to get on techmeme. This particular problem (and all of the problems that you mention) lies in a very small subset of the blogging community--the "A-list", as it's put.
- Eric Florenzano
Robert: Calacanis's new official blog: http://robert_zrxrc.posterous.com/ : ))) You may change its name to "calacanissbug.posterous.com" : )))
- Erhan Erdogan
Robert, BUT BEWARE - the same thing is happening on FF too , the platform has changed, however the attitude is the same. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
Robert, the one thing e-mail is severely lacking is the ability to thread a conversation so late comers don't jump in and ask the same questions that were already asked - or make the same points that were already made. Sure Jason has some points, but I'm not sure the direction he took is the road to travel... It does indeed sound like he wants to 'recapture' something that was lost, but I can't help hearing you (Robert) start ringing the innovation bell rather than what equates to throwing in the towel.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I blog, comment and email. I have a large target audience - non-tech, non-connected biz owners, who prefer the email format. Of course I invite conversation, and try to direct people back to my blog, but the large percentage of my readers are passive - so email works.
- Lorraine Ball
I have to say I agree with Michael Markman on this one. I'm rather enjoying the tone of Jason's writing in these posts. It's brings me back to earlier writing of his that I enjoyed.
- Cathy Brooks
I think the move is rather ridiculous. I never really pay much attention to his stunts anyway, but I think that if one-way conversation were what he wanted, he could disable commenting. Perhaps, though, he doesn't want people talking about his "posts" elsewhere, like on FriendFeed. Strange.
- Jonathan Sterling
Peter Dawson, really great point. My aim is to find, create, join, or otherwise be part of mindshare... I want to expand my horizons and learn things. I like that I don't agree with everything out there - it gives me room to make a difference or move on. However, I would submit that I fear the Internet is finally starting to mirror the real world... but this is not a cause to despair but a reason to fight harder!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
it seems that the A-list bloggers are exposed to a lot of "A-List Envy/Angst" and a lot of what comes out comes out as vitriol at not being as successful. It's a very negative energy and I could see how it would start to get annoying. I can't blame Jason for being annoyed by it anymore than I can blame you (Scoble) for blocking people who are always dumping negativity on you. That said, I agree with Ted Leonsis that Jason is pulling a Brett Favre, but I do believe the toll the negativity takes is real.
- Robert Seidman
Well, it was only a matter of time before this whole transparency, aggregation, data portability thing started to freak people out. Walled garden, anyone?
- Karim
I prefer this to: “I'm streaming live right now, come chat!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I always thought of a blog as a catalyst to cathartic discussion. While I love reading Jason's work, the mailing list is just a one-way distribution list. I have to use friendfeed, twitter, or another blog to discuss the content. If you're tired of clueless commentators, then moderate the comments. Wait a second. . . .isn't THIS a blog in a way?
- Peter Ghosh
Sorry, but while I understand his reasoning, I utterly disagree w/ his solution. We don't need to 'go back to listserve' to have a conversation. In fact, I've been saying for a while now that the reason microblogging sites have done so well is that they really DO facilitate conversation. Blogging is more like lecturing w/ a Q&A session in the comments. Twitter, FF, and other sites have lead us into actual organic conversations. Jason's email is back to lecturing. I won't be subscribing.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Peter: I'm still very passionate about having smart conversations and furthering our understanding of the technology that we all use every day.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe it's all one big joke. I've learned that Jason and I have different senses of humor.
- shelisrael1
I can't believe people actually believe any of this is serious. Calcanis is not retiring from blogging to do email lists. See the truth, see the evidence!
- Ben Parr
Instead of talking about it, let's just ignore it. Don't subscribe. We have to make it as clear as possible that we've moved beyond these one-way conversations.
- Shawn Farner
Maybe he wants more control over his own conversations?
- Omar Vasquez Lima
It was a brilliant move. People who've never heard of Calacanis now do. He is going to be talked about by everyone. Even news organazations are picking up on this. It doesn't matter what you say anymore... it matters how you say it to get in the spotlight. He is a brilliant man in that regards. Can't everyone figure that out. It is all about being in the spotlight. I got that the moment I even saw the first headline.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
BTW, my aforementioned statements does not conclude that I appreciate such ways of getting in the spotlight. I'm disgusted with it, but it makes the Calacanis brand more widely known. Everyone else is the sucker for constantly talking about it. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. Calacanis already won because we are all talking about him. That is brilliant marketing folks. Think about it.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
@Karim I have it on good authority (i.e. I made it up) that he kept subscriptions open until 1095 because that's when Scoble signed up. I know, I know, you would have thought he would have done it sooner, but popular opinion is that he wanted to make Jason sweat.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I think the fact that this move has created as much buzz as it has shows that it is working. How many more eyes will see this now that it will only be delivered to a select few?
- Zach Chisholm
Jason, ha! :-D Somehow I'm sure he'll always manage to squeeze in another subscription or two for the "right" people ;-) I'd have more respect for these caps if they were given as powers of two (512, 1024) -- that way I'd just assume there was some technical basis. lol
- Karim
I think Jason has a point. Techmeme and Valleywag have turned an idea culture into a celebrity culture. Trust me, I started to get sucked into the anger and negativity this week, and I didn't like what I was seeing in myself. But honestly? If he wants to push messages and have conversations back and forth without dodging trolls and negativity and egotism, he's got the right idea. If Leonsis is right, I'll be pretty sad. Speaking of Leonsis, LETS GO CAPS!!! STANLEY CUP 2009!!!
- Andrew Feinberg
I don't see how you can get involved in 'drama' if you just stay the hell away from valleywag and techmeme
- mjc
Zach, re "select few," I shouldn't be telling you this, but the Force can have a strong effect on the weak-minded. [waves hand] And please don't tell anyone I told you that, keep it just between the two of us. [waves hand]
- Karim
Your going about it wrong... he didn't go "back to email", he decided to use a "distributed push blogging platform". Your so 1.0 with your blog on your server it's laughable ;-).
- Robert Accettura
Email blog? *sigh*
- Czar
We're all discussing it here, Score another for Team Calacanis. He's a great marketer, he creates tremendous buzz in a small community and can keep it spinning. It doesn't matter what medium he uses, he makes it work for him.
- Steven Cains
I'm a "single inbox" advocate, and have all my RSS feeds fed to email, so Jason's really just saving me a step. I really wish FF could feed individual comments and posts to email, so I wouldn't have to come here. All these distinctions between blogs, FF, IM, SMS, twitter, email... I look forward to the day when it's all transparent, you simply subscribe to the content rather than the medium, and you choose whichever delivery mechanism you prefer.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jason makes some valid points. I don't have anywhere near the audience of many of you, but comments are seriously problematic. On one hand they make writing pretty thankless, because often the only people who comment are ones who want to criticize or attack. On the other, you crave them because you're trying to start conversations. But having said that, I have made a considerable chunk of my living doing PR and I know buzz-building when I see it. That's not a criticism, it's just an observation.
- Anthony Citrano
M. Cohen: that's the point. he's (at least trying to) remove himself a step or two from that medium. To be honest, I take more time reading and digesting an email than I do a blog post, because when you send mail to a list, you know who your initial audience is. Another thing? Mailing lists and Usenet (before outlook destroyed threading) had great conversations, better than many blog comments. FriendFeed actually reminds me of a Usenet-Listserv mashup in that way. (continued)
- Andrew Feinberg
Most high-traffic blogs have way too many trolls, sock puppets, and other crap to make conversations useful anymore. Does anyone remember Slashdot in the early days? I do (my UID is 4 digits) and I never go there anymore. Why? Sock puppets, trolls, very few good conversations. The medium did not scale well. In many ways, Jason has been out sailing and has spied a FailWhale off his port bow. He's altering course to avoid, but the destination remains the same. Let's hope he gets there.
- Andrew Feinberg
This is a personal decision for me and I realize that intelligent folks will disagree with my decision... however, I can tell you that after a couple of emails to the ~1,000 folks on the list I've a) learned more, b) gotten much more response (50-150 really well thought emails each time I send an email so far), and c) there has been no drama/haters. When you reach critical mass in blogging it implodes as the majority of feedback you get is from the haters and the mentally unstable (sometimes both).
- Jason Calacanis
Jason: Agreed for the most part, but others on the list can't see the replies that people send to you :( I'd love to learn what you're learning.
- Eric Florenzano
Robert - I think it's all a matter of perspective, when it comes to the benefit versus harm of doing exclusively email. I've shared some specific thoughts with Jason, but the overall point I'll make here. For you, it's hard because you're flooded already. For me, it's a chance to break away from what's going on during a day and read some thoughts that are shared to a very small and specific audience. I like what Jason's doing. I just, as I stated to him, hope that he's not cutting off his nose...
- Bradley McSpinn
Eric: the responses from the email list to me are 1-to-1 and that is providing me with so much more value than public comments, which i've found tend to be for a) the promotion of the individual, b) the chance to lash out/behave badly, c) some combination of a&b. I'm getting much more considered response because people understand it's one to one... this means i'm more likely to email more--it's a virtuous cycle so far. i wonder what will happen with email 100 or 1,000. will it continue or go away? who knows
- Jason Calacanis
I think at some point one wants to blog or write more intimately. Instead of e-mail, I think Ning.com would have been a much better solution. It also puts a face behind the names and they can share too.
- Janette Toral
Email may be the worst place, but maybe Jason has something new brewing in email land?
- drew olanoff
Jason - I read your email via Robert's posterous. I really enjoyed that post. I'm someone fairly new to this world of the Web. To be honest, my only impression of you is as The Mahalo Guy who tweets about his bulldogs. Didn't realize there was so much more there, especially your trailblazing in the genre. With a closed-off email list, you'll miss a lot of new people. As for Google juice, Techmeme, etc, look to Marc Andreessen as an example. Blogs only on his own time as he tends to his start-up.
- Hutch Carpenter
I thought you posted the email message, someone Twittered about that. I think it's about exclusivity, or the perception of exclusivity and accountability, ability to quantify. I think if SAR was still around it would be the only (5 maybe?) email lists i would need to subscribe to, so that was the '90's. As far as the focus on Techmeme, you got to just ignore it. Why do people need to know which 50 stories discuss the same issue? I'm glad it's successful for him. There are haters, always have been.
- angela penny
Didn't LISTSERV's die when www came out? This is a step backwards if you ask me. Another silo'd walled garden community. Meh.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I feel lucky to be on Jason's email list.
- Owen O'Malley
Jason, if the responses are 1:1, you could end up answering the same question 1,000 times... and like Eric said, some questions don't get asked repeatedly when everyone can see them.
- Karim
Who is parsing Jason's comments?
- Anne Haynes
an email list is not a conversation, it is a one way street, Email lists are old fashioned, old school tech Most people have already been there, done that and are trying out all the new ways to communicate.We have moved on to Blogs, FriendFeed, Twitter, etc with new things showing up every day. Who else besides Jason wants to go backwards to the old list days? Negativity is always a problem, but does that mean we stop talking because of it?
- Francine
Email is a follow-up medium IMO. It's what you might use once you find someone who you find worth having a more intimate conversation. I don't think most bloggers get an over abundance of these gems, but Jason achieved an order of magnitude that yielded a large cadre of intelligent folks. I get it. However, I'd blog simultaneously and see if other gems emerge that could be added to the email dialog.
- AJ Kohn
I don't have any stats to back this up, but I suspect that despite all the twitterati/friendfeeders/bloggers hopes and dreams to the contrary, 90%+ of the non-navelgazing, productive activity on the internet is probably still conducted via email.
- Ken Sheppardson
good for little jason. email rules
- Big Jason Henderson
I can see (and have empathy for) a lot of the reasons why Jason (or anyone else) would decide to take a deep breath and opt out of the fray; a large part of the stakes in keeping blogging alive in the next - say - five years depends on a delicate balance between "taking" and "giving back" ideas from a communal place - when the former replaces the latter, things start getting less and less fun and interesting. Also,thislaptopspacebarisdyingonme.
- dario
As for the Techmeme and page view stuff. I suppose if you're doing this for a living that might be a concern. Even then, it's still about content and ideas. I still believe that if you have the former, the latter will come to a large degree. Should you really be interested in traffic you might be better off doing SEO.
- AJ Kohn
Annie, I tried to parse what Jason meant by the implication that answering the same question repeatedly had a greater value than not doing so :-) but I couldn't... I can see that it would *possibly* lower the amount of self-aggrandizing or hateful messages, because of the lack of a public platform, but it seems like the price is replying the same thing over and over, to potentially hundreds of people. Why even bother with replies, why not just make it a newsletter? Or a blog with no comments.
- Karim
I applaud the move. Though I think it is a technological step backward, it seems to me, it is from a desire to move forward with, to me, what makes life valuable: relationships. And although disagreement is important to growth, detractors are less valuable than a reduction in disagreement.
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It won't last.
- Jim Kukral
I was on Jason's old Silicon Alley email list years ago. There was something cool & useful about that list that was different from the blogging experience.
- Paul Rodriguez
A few months ago I had a rather relaxed (blame tuscan red wines!) and interesting conversation with De Kerchove - a scholar who knows a thing or two about media - about the existence of collective intelligence and the concept of 'smart mobs' - the central point being 'are we starting to see something larger than the sum of its parts?'- the answer - more or less - is yes, but as any form of evolution, it takes lots of time and course correction along the way.
- dario
My responses to the four points that Robert summarized above: "1. That commenters have destroyed blogging." - this is not new and many bloggers at many levels deal with hecklers. "2. That Nick Denton's style of paying for page views instead of smart ideas has destroyed blogging." - might be an issue for those bloggers who actually earn income from blogging. "3. That he seeks out a more intimate conversation." - less likely to happen if every E-Mail is posted somewhere. cont'd...
- Mark Dykeman
"4. That email is it." - it could be a personal preference, but he could easily achieve the same thing with a public forum requiring a password-protected user account. All this would actually do is to prevent people from publicly criticizing him because there's no forum to do so within the E-Mail list. Unfortunately, there will be lots of other places to do that. More power to him if this is his true intent, but long term I don't think it will work.
- Mark Dykeman
I can (occasionally) see Jason's point about comments, but, sorry, that's not a blog, that's a newsletter. BOO!
- Helen Sventitsky
Why haven't bloggers incorporated "slashdot-like" rating into their comment systems in order to get rid of the noise. What am I missing? Let the community protect its own resource if they value it.
- Derek Tutschulte
TechCrunch also wrote about this, but the comments here are a lot more interesting and smarter: http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
Oh, and Jason, I agree that 1:1 conversations are the best. That's why I put my phone number on my blog. +1-425-205-1921 -- a troll of mine even called last night (seriously, she did) and I got to hang up on her. It was most satisfying.
- Robert Scoble
Derek: Slashdot's comments don't work to get rid of the noise.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: You're right, it's embarassing for TechCrunch, really. In a way, it's validation of his move.
- Eric Florenzano
Email is broken
- paul mooney
Still fuzzy on why being able to weed out comments rated belowa "4" (5 being the highest) wouldn't filter out useless comments. Deputize your allies among your audience as editors that can rate comments and they clean up the mess. Forgive me, but why wouldn't that work?
- Derek Tutschulte
from twhirl
Kudos to you Scoble for keeping the conversation going. While I agree with Jason's sentiments, that the blogosphere needs to grow up a bit and stop focusing on views/clicks/getting on techmeme, etc - that's the responsibility of the blogger. You can have a blog WITHOUT being distracted by those things. Just... write the emails in a blog. That's why blogs are revolutionary. Email is for suckers. No way around it. Techcrunch publishing the email = fail. Is that really news?
- David Cohn
SezWho has a plugin for WordPress. http://www.sezwho.com/ this can help a bit with commenters.
- Ryan Lane
"This was a triumph. I'm making a note here, huge success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction..." -GLaDOS
- Eric Rice
I wonder. Considering my first comment (up two comments) and your blog post @RobertScoble - if the course of action is to just ignore it all. I mean - we are feeding the ego-flames here and I think Jason wants/knows it. Robert - considering it's just an "email" newsletter, why not drop Jason's new form of communication from your inbox? Especially if it's a cheap ploy. Would be a bold statement from you.
- David Cohn
Like everything in life, Jason decision probably has pros and cons, but my personal feeling is that his going backward with this one, kinda like Facebook before they joined Dataportability... (conversations remains hidden inside)
- Orli Yakuel
You can follow his emails on http://www.calacanismail.com
- Frans
Is not Jason stil bloggin ? hmmmmm.. I mean micro bloggin when participating in convo /Sharing on FF :)-
- Peter Dawson
Here's how it went down: Mrs. Calacanis: "Hunny, you're on the computer too much." ... Jason: "OK babe... I'll quit blogging"
- Jimmy Gleason
Jason is still twittering, so isn't that essentially blogging?
- Green Screen Cinema
No, that's microblogging and/or lifestreaming. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Full Disclosure: I work for an email marketing team, I like email. That said, I don't think email is dead, but not the best channel for two way, one-to-many dialog when you have volume involved. If you limit your distribution and allow reply to, then email can spark some very intimate or insightful conversations between the sender and sendee(s). If you become a high-volume mailer, then...
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- Melinda
Suggest what webspam should work on next - http://feeds.mattcutts.com/~r...
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Dilbert - June 6, 2008 - http://dilbert.com/fast...
Peter Stuifzand, Aileen Lee, Steve C and 62 other people liked this
lol. seriously! :P
- Dan Hsiao
Dilbert creator Scott Adams is one of the smartest brains around. Great Humor.
- Muthu Ramadoss
Bret, that's exactly what I thought when I saw the Dilbert strip.
- Anne Bouey
@Bret and Anne. Some of the best comedy mimics/copies stuff in the real world. Why is that disturbing?
- Jacob Nahin
Like - more than just hitting 'like'
- Charlie Anzman
it is just like lifecasting
- Ralph Poole
from twhirl
Why Disqus Is Winning the Web Comment Battles, and What's Next - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Diana Valerini, Sarah Perez, Sean McBride and 43 other people liked this
Nice post Louis...thanks for sharing!!
- Susan Beebe
I've flipped two of my sites already, and will end up implementing Disqus everywhere. I couldn't be more impressed.
- Chris Baskind
"Daniel said that having others in the field helps to reassure him that it's a good market to pursue. If nobody else was interested in the space, he would undoubtedly be wondering just why." Damn straight + the fact he recognizes this is a definite positive.
- Duncan Riley
And another comment via Friendfeed. Who knew comments systems would become so competitive ;-)
- William Stewart
FF intergration would be great, And not just on Disqus, but for all blogs. I'm starting to notice more and more Disqus comments showing up in my FF feed. I've never actually used it before, but wider avaliablility would change that.
- Roberto Bonini
If it ever comes to wordpress.com, then I can really enjoy it. Still, great idea Daniel.
- Hutch Carpenter
Funny, I found myself not being able to comment on blogs that implemented Disqus because I have not had the chance to sign up. I have hard enough time remembering my passwords for the services I already use... even for your post, I am glad you integrated FF as that is what I am learning at the moment. My other concern is integration - I've had a hard time with TypePad recently. For me it will be wait and see.
- Valeria Maltoni
Brandon, if you're only using FF comments you're blocking every person who doesn't use FF from being able to comment on your blog, which is not something I'd consider wise. Once (or if) FF starts offering anon or non-registered blog commenting, then maybe I'd follow suite. In the mean time though Disqus is great
- Duncan Riley
all this buzz around Disqus is nice until their first crash... this kind of service is about "reliability über alles" and not Twitter-kind-of reliability (and I'm sorry to say that but also virtually all web 2.0 reliability)
- A.T.
I have gotten over the "must have full control over!" feeling re: comments, but dang if I'll switch over to a solution that doesn't even let my comments be indexed by major search engines <sigh>.
- Adam Lasnik
In theory. the law of evolution and specialization applied to social web can create a niche for narrowly-specialized services like Disqus next to social heavyweights like FriendFeeds and SocialThing. The downside is that heavyweights have an option of implementing/emulating the same feature (set).
- Nenad Nikolic
I love the features of Disqus, I love the usability of Disqus, I love the style of Disqus. The only thing I don't like about it, is the one thing that will stop me using it on all my major sites: I don't like giving Google juice to other sites. (whilst the comment system was part of 'my' site, that's a bucket load of free content for 'my' site. The instant I use an external comment...
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- Chris Wright
from twhirl
Disqus is on of those applications that I saw and "got" right away and have been using since.
- Mark Forman
Re the "reliability über alles" comment - Disqus has had at least two crashes that I know of, and Disqus' responses to those crashes were prompt and apologetic. (Once they even gave away swag.) Now I don't know if Disqus is architected to scale smoothly, but I'm certainly impressed with them on the business end.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Disqus seems to be more reliable than Blogger, so it's plenty good for my blog :)
- Paul Buchheit
love it. Actually, I have Louis to thank for exposing me to it. My only gripe is that it seems to log me out, and when I try to comment on someone else's blog that also uses disqus, I have to go to the site, sign-in, and refresh the post.
- shaun mclane
I like Disqus I think it's excellent!
- Joe Dawson
shaun: you can actually login right from the blog itself. i did this yesterday and was pleased. no need to go to disqus.com and refresh the blog page to comment.
- sean808080
from twhirl
is shocked.... France 1 - Holland 4
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Holland are looking pretty good. Now will they play for the win against Romania, or will they lose. (If they lose, both France and Italy go out as Romania go through. If they win, then who ever wins out of France/Italy goes through). If Italy/France go through, they could meet them again. Would they want to meet them again ? Oh to be a sceptic. Personally, I think they will whoop Romania...
- Chris Wright
Using Twitter to Friend Feed Importer (version: 0.0.1) - http://InternetDuctTape.com/tools...
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Twitter to Friend Feed Importer finds all of your Tweeps on Friend Feed and subscribes them.
- engtech
that sounds really useful. when will it be available? i cant see it on your site ...via AlertThingy
- David Adam
I should have it released in the next hour or two
- engtech
It lives: http://internetducttape.com/2008...
- engtech
You are a coding machine!
- Phil Ashman
haven't been able to get it to work. it installs fine, but when i open the "friend feed importer console", after a few seconds it displays a bunch of errors ...via AlertThingy
- David Adam
I'll try installing it on a clean machine and see what happens... I might have a missing dependency
- engtech
Ah, it breaks on machines that don't have the HOME environment variable set. I'll release a fix.
- engtech
We have a winner: http://internet-duct-tape.goog...
- engtech
w00t it works :) Installed fine, and is currently doing its thing. Thanks a bunch I was just thinking the other day how useful a tool like this would be. Whats it mean when it says "Can't find social graph" though? ...via AlertThingy
- David Adam
I put more discussion about the social graph stuff in the blog post. I'm using XFN/FOAF stuff to find the connections between people... doesn't always work well.
- engtech
it is running now but is there a way to produce a simple output instead of subscribing? I am now subsribing to some people I really did not want to subscribe to. ;) or better, if that thing could just produce two lists (twitter friend / friend feed twitter list) i could do a very neat comparison in excel myself. ;)
- Nicole Simon
hm okay. ran it but have no idea if it aborted or not, but given the amount of friends i haev in both, it seems like it. a pause button at the end might be a good idea. :) waiting for the next version. ;)
- Nicole Simon
superb! If only it was a web service....
- zeroinfluencer
I think that would yield more churn than I'd want to handle. I'll have a smaller, more intimate list on FF than Twitter. The services aren't equivalent.
- Chris Baskind
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