gunz, youz haz dee brewz. nowz youz gotz two choicez of whatz youz can dooz. itz notz a tough decision az you can see, i canz blow you awayz or youz can ridez wif me.
- Morgan Haley
I didnt really want to add everyone i know on friendfeed to my facebook, i like to keep them seperate as much as i can. but you know what, fuck it http://www.facebook.com/simon... add a note saying you;re from friendfeed if you add me, then i can group everyone up :)
- Simon Wicks
Thanks, Simon. I've not started going through these yet. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm only going to add the people i actually talk to on here. I have a lot less people on my follow list than you, so its a bit easier for me :)
- Simon Wicks
Remember, guys. According to FB, you're only allowed 5000 friends. Spend them wisely.
- James Myatt
As if we weren't before? Were they really that many people here who didn't also have a FB account, even if they didn't list it in their profile? I've been with FB since 2004
- LANjackal
Well, with this news it is pushing me to start using my real name for web services and to kill (or at least slowly stop using) the tomit persona that I have used for many years. Find me here... http://www.facebook.com/ronaldb...
- tomit
FF better figure out how not to destroy themselves (if possible) with this merger. Friendfeed in the FB interface will not work. I think FF really just f*cked themselves.
- Ethan
I'm on Facebook, but I don't have a name in my profile URL (yet; I'm still new...). But if you want it, it's http://www.facebook.com/profile... -- if you friend me, tell me you're from FF.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't freaking have one because I never wanted to sign up for Facebook. :P Now I find out that through no fault of my own I'm technically a Facebook user? GAH.
- Cheryl Jones
http://facebook.com/alex.covic - I will friend everybody - for those of you concerned with friend/family + privacy = you can create lists (just like ff-groups) to keep FF-users in a different corner;-).
- Alex 'BuckyBit' Covic
I do not use it much LOL I just post to it from other sites so to fill up my friends stream, I do get messages and some status in text. Anyone who really wants to add me, use the facebook link on my profile. :o)
- David Gross
www.facebook.com/drodzand you won't see much since I got the privacy settings on max in Facebook. Just another reason why I think Facebook is completely different from friendfeed. I hope they keep friendfeed running because I use both services in diametrically diverse ways.
- David Rodriguez
http://www.facebook.com/kimbers... (I can remember if I commented on this already. I don't see "You" on the list, but I'm tired. So, hopefully, I didn't. If I did, oh well.
- Kimber Scott
Thanks Rob, I had forgotten my username for I always used my email address to login - I found there is a settings > username > change thing that lets you change your username once and then you get a facebook.com/username url!
- TrafficBug
I am thinking about just using my Public Page more. Keep my regular profile for family and coworker data. Follow me here if you want more of the type of posts I do here of Friendfeed. http://www.facebook.com/pages...
- tomit
I looked at at least two pages of every user who posted. I just started learning, so I bookmarked about 20 pages that I'll be coming back to. This was nice, thanks!
- Ryan Massie
Same pig, new lipstick. I have no loyalty - even tho I have 10 yrs worth of pre-gmail email saved there.
- Penelope Mudd
there are so many wildly smart people there. hope they are able to focus.
- michael sean wright
The soviet union had wildly smart people as well, but the wrong framework...
- James Watters
ahhh. thanks Robert. Hadn't actually tried it from there. shows you how much I come around. making an effort, I do enjoy the concept here - almost like a collaborative IRC on steroids. @Robert
- Omar
nicefishfilms: it took Microsoft six years to get Bing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yahoo is irrelevant to me. It gives me nothing I can't get elsewhere.
- Jim Connolly
Compuserve has new page.. yay.Wait looks like AltaVista changed something too. in other words- meh! But that is from a techie- general public still uses it and AT&T DSL subscribers use it.
- Alyx
They're still a traffic juggernaut thanks to the SBC|DSL deal. Millions and millions of SBC (Now AT&T) home DSL users have Yahoo set as their homepage and have no idea how to switch it and in most cases don't want to because their e-mail is run through there too.
- Adam Turetzky
I don't even use the yahoo weather feed on my iPhone. The hack putting the temp next to the battery is lovely though. @ Jim !! That's exactly the crux... imho
- Omar
RS: but I said I care =] i mean i am one of those 300 million i mean several of them =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
I stopped using Yahoo because the home page had too much crap on it. Google kept theirs simple.
- Chris Mayer
Flickr became irrelevant once I started using webspace more. Am an oldschool member though.
- Omar
There is an important strategic difference between no longer growing and dead. Yahoo is no longer growing; they own the wrong market segments.
- James Watters
And I don't know why people would knock them. Yahoo!'s homepage and the my.yahoo.com page have so much more to offer than what Google gives you. The search results are only mildly different, at least in my limited testing.
- Adam Turetzky
I never said Yahoo is dead. I said I don't care.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert; yeah, just reacting to a few, they are toast comments and people talking about a few apps they still have left as if that matters.
- James Watters
I think there are still many who care abour Yahoo, as Robert said over 300 million page visits a month. I just think there is room for improvement.
- Amir
from iPod
Hoop: nothing is there that makes me care. My friends and news are elsewhere.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@jamesurquhart had an interesting twitter discussion today asking how many comcast people use their provider as their homepage; Apparently comcast has stats saying many many do. I think I'm very out of touch with the average internet user, as are most of my friends out here.
- James Watters
Scoble: You probably shouldn't. For some reason when I read you saying you don't care I infer it as an implication that you don't think other people should. Truth be told I'm not sure how much time I'll spend there but if Yahoo's homepage turns out to be a better FriendFeed, I'd give it a week try-out
- Hoop
I guess one or two of us here will peek at Yahoo tomorrow to see what they're up to....
- Gus
Omar, how do you mean Flickr became irrelevant?
- Rutger Blom
from email
@Hoop, their new homepage will emulate FF?
- James Watters
Not really. I stopped using Yahoo! in 2001.
- Chantal
I just looked at their home page for the first time in years...ick!
- James Watters
@James, only in the sense that it seems to let me pull content from lots of other sites togeter. That's the main value I get from FriendFeed, pulling together multiple social networks including my friend lists. FriendFeed is fantastic but far from the ultimate experience
- Hoop
@Rutger - just from my perspective, and most people who have been online for a good period. It's still a solid offering, just not as innovative as it was in the early days vs comparative products. It stood on its own then...
- Omar
@Hoop, if they made it primarily about social feeds that would def be big news, esp in an innovative way. But I doubt they will go that far, their existing users would bark.
- James Watters
@Hoop - I still want to find a team to build c0nnected.net into an intelligent intake mechanism - what I'm calling the neural extentive internet, in my head.. I do not code however. wrote a short abstract on it, would be happy to email the concept if requested. Intelligent metrics, full customization, etc. . .
- Omar
@hoop - Abstract topic - Topic: true data singularity or the neural extentive humanistic content management system, [considerations leading eventually to "the neural extensis," a proposed eventual website.]
- Omar
Omar: please explain data singularity?
- James Watters
@James, agreed but if they found a way to bridge that it woudl be huge news. The FriendFeed experience with really simple UX and heavier weight on Yahoo's own content feeds woudl be huge. Alas that's not what I'm seeing on the new homepage and like Scoble, I don't care about anything I see so far.
- Hoop
I am another of those that hasn't looked at Yahoo's home page in years so I couldn't care less about there homepage changes.
- russellcoleman
@James - well I'm not a CS head, so the terminology isn't a declarative absolutism, just what I decided to call it.. this is an abstract developed in a vacuum, thus far. All your data, encapsulated and delivered to a single point. Much like we do google reader for RSS (those that do), however every source in your social media net and ALL your other browser based http traffic can be drawn in. . .
- Omar
YHOO and AAPL both issue earnings Tuesday .... any guesses ???
- Charlie Anzman
Just came to think of one more Yahoo service I like (besides Flickr): Pipes
- Rutger Blom
from email
Just posted the neural extensis concept (what I've typed formally thus far) as a blog entry:::
- Omar
Omar: slightly OT but my dream site has a little of "my" data and a lot of data for other sources. I'm not as fascinated by the site as I am about the liberation of my data, what Doug Purdy calls the infobus. maybe it starts with a more federated/open FriendFeed. But eventually I do want an app to show me all the data in one place and organized and it will come down to the App with the best experience. Owning my data shouldn't be an advantage. If Yahoo gave me that, I'd care.
- Hoop
@Hoop - You've given me some interesting things to think about. The beauty of the idea I am proposing is you can pull other data you'd read regularly,, or for a short time into the offering. Completely customizable. Think of it as a fully customized scraper of sorts, for things that don't already have a feed, or an API, that you're interested in reading and or keeping track of. And yes, it'd be pulling in things like google calendar, etc of course! Please elabourate a bit on "owning data," ?
- Omar
I cant tell the difference to be honest. Is it really different or am I being punked?
- Ron George
Yahoo's web presence is done IMHO. The only people that care are your grandma who hasn't changed her default home page that Dell specified.
- Alex Knight
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I still like (and use) my MyYahoo page. Granted I spend more time in Google Reader than probably anywhere else, but I still use MyYahoo (and I'm not even a grandma or grandpa ;p )
- Michael Pardee
from iPhone
Is Yahoo still around? I thought they were bought by Mattel.
- Ernie Oporto
from iPhone
I stopped using Yahoo years ago. Yahoomail has a pretty incompetent spam blocker. The Yahoo page is much too busy. I went All Gmail/Google but of late, Gmail's been pretty flaky. Yahoo search is probably pretty good, but we're past the Good Enough stage, now. For something new to elbow in, it's got to be very significantly better or different (and engaging).
- Murli Nagasundaram
You just compared a content portal refresh to two social networks and a search—nay: decision—engine. Pretty sure you're way off base Robert.
- David Chartier
Also, I'm no fan of it myself, but according to the last stats I heard a couple months ago, Yahoo's home/start page had about 250 million monthly uniques. Pretty sure that's still slaughtering the competition.
- David Chartier
Robert - its 2009, are hompy's still important ?? Think of it !!
- Peter Dawson
Does Yahoo have a page. They have more traffic than any site in the world.
- Stephen Pickering
I don't use Yahoo that much anymore but to they will not become irrelevant until someone else provides the same services they do. Anyone who thinks FriendFeed and twitter do that for people like my mom and my grandma doesn't get it.
- Hoop
I don't care. I suppose Yahoo could, someday, come up with something better than what I use now; but it seems unlikely.
- Pat Rice
from twhirl
I don't see Bing or Yahoo as a threat to Google. Bing is a great product but it doesn't seem like anything that Google couldn't create with less effort.
- Hugh Isaacs II
Hoop: Thanks for the link! Tried to see new homepage earlier and wasn't prompted by Yahoo, as I expected. My first take is that the redesign is cleaner and more flexible. The bad thing -- and I mean *really* bad -- is that they have now dedicated even more room to display advertisements. That's a deal breaker for me; no way would I use the redesign. But I'll still hit My Yahoo daily.
- Larry Hawes
I stopped using Yahoo for my home page a long time ago. Rarely use it these days, so no I don't care.
- Kirk Bryan
yahoo! is still around? Oh yea, they own Flickr. :)
- Kreg Steppe
Yes cuz I have to use them everyday and my service provider partners w/em!
- polou/indigo_bow
I do because it bring status updates even more mainstream.
- Steve Rubel
I don't. Yahoo is a dinosaur just waiting to go extinct. Google is the future!
- Tomy Thomson
Except for Delicious, MyBlogLog, Yahoo Pipes, and occasionally Flickr, I don't have much of a use for anything else that is Yahoo.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm more interested in Gmail's new changes.
- Amir
Hah. Well, sure. But we can help them. And by doing so, help us all, no?
- Alex Howard
FF just needs Oprah and Ashton to join... everyone I know who isn't a TechCrunch junkie is just hearing about Twitter (over and over again these days), and has no idea that FF exists.
- Ryan Mickle
I like being able to get instant emails from friends- "imaginary friends" is the best hidden feature in FriendFeed
- joebrooks
Alex: I tried last weekend and at the Twitter conference with CNN, but they don't ask for help. They think they are so cool because they read Tweets on air.
- Robert Scoble
joebrooks: yeah, FriendFeed's IM and email integration is so much better than Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
If the state is able to intercept the communications, they need not see into the rooms as they already have the http post data.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
(but that's not to say that the majority of what is above is incorrect)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: the state is, although many of the students are using proxy servers that encrypt all communications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Sorry to hear that -- not that you tried -- but that they didn't listen. So much potential to meld the real-time Web with the cable news networks. Caught myself getting upset with the CNN anchors today. No attribution of Tweets or the YouTube videos they are showing.
- Alex Howard
Rob: the only way you can use Twitter and friendfeed in Iran right now is through proxy servers.
- Robert Scoble
I'm aware of that, but the data is not encrypted before the proxy, only after
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Also, here when we have a conversation with tons of Tweets like this one you can bundle up the whole bunch and link people to the entire conversation. That's impossible to do on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: one might argue that the fact twitter is open has helped them quite a bit
- BryanSchuetz
Bryan: yes, Twitter is getting more than its fair share of mentions because Twitter is simple, open, and public.
- Robert Scoble
if it's all private you can't get the mob involved
- BryanSchuetz
but once the mob is involved keeping it going in a good direction becomes difficult
- BryanSchuetz
Bryan: I told 15 people I was quitting Microsoft and within three days had tens of millions of media mentions. You'd be surprised how fast things move from small groups to big mobs.
- Robert Scoble
using "mob" intentionally here as well. Lots of missteps going on from all the people on twitter trying to help but unwittingly making things worse
- BryanSchuetz
Friendfeed seems more resilient against disinformation - there is a great deal of disinformation and warnings against it on twitter right now
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert, great points on why Friendfeed would be of use to Iranian students. Given that they're limited to short bursts of transmission or tunneling in on the Web to upload video, I wonder whether students in-country would really be better served.
- Alex Howard
While I agree with your technical sentiments, let's remember that this is about the people of Iran. I am more than willing to use as many channels as necessary to provide aid. Yes to Twitter, to Friendfeed, to Facebook. Heck, let's even include Orkut for that matter. But the most important channel of communications is between ourselves and our God. May God's will be made known to all...
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- Lorin Olsen
You can't expect CNN to be this far ahead of the curve. Even though I agree that they would benefit immensely from using services like FF, they are just getting started with this. At least they are trying new things. I think that the "old media" are waking up just in time. It will be interesting to see what television will look like a few years from now.
- Wim Mulder
guruvan, perhaps Friendfeed seems more "resilient" because the userbase is at least an order of magnitude smaller?
- William Anderson
I think event news will continue to look more like what CNN is doing, sifting through the online media for real people telling truth and giving perspective from on the ground in hotspots
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
guruvan you mean they will actually ...whats the word for it... report?
- BryanSchuetz
Lorin: you are very close to getting blocked for trying to take the conversation back to some sort of religious argument.
- Robert Scoble
William: perhaps, but there is also more leadership here on FriendFeed, and it's not quite such a mob in the first place. the more organized discussions lead people to gravitate toward each other, and natural leaders come forth - I've just over the last hour spent some time looking therough a few feeds, and translating as fast as I can, and seen exactly this
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
William: Twitter was ALWAYS down when it had far fewer people on it than friendfeed has today. Friendfeed is done by five superstars from Google. The technology here is so much better than Twitter's it isn't even funny.
- Robert Scoble
Bryan: I mean that the people will report, and the news organizations will try to determine the truth by corroborating stories, and centralizing information, and then distribute more easily digested chunks of the reports - something like twitter is very difficult for average people to digest for news. I have several search streams running and it's very difficult to kepp up
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert: I wasn't referring to technical resiliency.
- William Anderson
Nyan: not sure, possibly. In China my blog is blocked but I could see my blog on Google Reader.
- Robert Scoble
Nyan: It's likely that access through many clients is broken, but it is also likely that the governement does not know of every client. Clients that are unknown, or use transport other than port 80 http are more likely to work from Iran.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Guruvan: I hope so. CNN simply reading tweets on the air is not how I think MSM should be using tools like that. They are tools that can help them find the story, they seem to be making the tools the story, which is doubly irritating because we all understand the tools better than they do.
- BryanSchuetz
In the absence of other verifiable news, you might as well read tweets on the air. Especially if you have some kind of backend tweet processing that is filtering things like the more RTed phrases, links etc etc. (not that they are doing that, I don't really know, but I do doubt it....they should maybe hire me to build it) ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@scobleizer The only question I'd have for you on this -- I validate your points -- is in timing. Why advocate for FF now, when Twitter is clearly allowing Iranians to get info out? The tech is great, on any number of levels, but I'm a wee bit surprised to see the push for it pop up. Do you feel that strongly? I know you're personally invested in getting good information and protecting people, given your family, so I view your motives as fairly unimpeachable.
- Alex Howard
Alex: I've been advocating FF consistently no matter what the news is for more than a year now. Has nothing to do with now. And Twitter is blocked in Iran, just like FriendFeed. FriendFeed is a better place for students and protesters to organize. Why? Private rooms. Real TIme. And all the other reasons I give above.
- Robert Scoble
More clients need to be developed that include FriendFeed to make it more readily available in time of crisis and during information blockades
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
the key in this conversation is not which method is best for us , but what is most useful to those inside Iran. Friendfeed seems to be a much more cohesive way to communicate not as much noise, and the noise can be easily filtered
- Kim Landwehr
Yes Kim, I agree what can we do for Iranians here with FF.
- Myrna
Alex, Robert is just setting everything up for the next revelution so we can get better information quicker.
- Jason Remnant
Lets be honest, it will take more than a nifty social networking/micro blogging site to get the vote.
- Kevin J Hatton
Kevin: that's true, but small things can make huge changes in culture. Remember the one woman who refused to sit at the back of the bus?
- Robert Scoble
Jason: Exactly. Each one needs to be carried out better. Most importantly, each time we learn faster/better ways to deal with governments clamping down on communications. The internet is designed (inherently) as a tool of Freedom.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
@Robert Scoble I would have to agree with your point.
- Kevin J Hatton
Robert, now that your blog is no longer hosted by Wordpress, it may be accessible in China. Or perhaps the government just don't like you.
- Greg Byrne
Robert: Aren't all discussions based upon spiritual premises? Ethics and politics are both derived from the deep-seated stirrings of our spirits. But I appreciate your point. I'll try not to preach. But that's hard for me as I am an evangelist by my very nature. BTW, so are you! Nevertheless, the point I was trying to make is that we should be glad for every channel, including Twitter....
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- Lorin Olsen
Lorin: we're talking about friendfeed here and I used to be a fundamentalist Christian and don't appreciate efforts to bring religious evangelism into conversations here for a whole lot of reasons. Iran is run by religious people, remember.
- Robert Scoble
Nick: Operational in Iran? Brett's post of their drop in traffic from Iran would suggest that both http and https are blocked, and the only thing getting through from Iran is proxies (and those are being blocked at a pretty good clip too)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob - You're right. You had commended on Iran being able to snoop http: protocol of FF. I was just pointing out FF also uses https. They can't snoop it, but they can indeed block it.
- Nick in Manila
Running something like FF or Twitter servers internally would let CNN and friends organize information and interoperate better. Sounds like a growth opportunity for FF.
- Ernie Oporto
And Nick: /you/ can't snoop https, but most any government can. It is not very difficult.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It is easy to follow comments/likes. It is more valuable with previews to images. And if a part of your audience is using Twitter, you can sync it to FF.
- Burcu Dogan
I personally use PhraseExpress which isn't billed as a password storage program, but can function that way. I've also heard fantastic things about LastPass, even that it does better than KeePass. http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Miss Elle
RoboForm used to be a fav, but it became intrusive and their licensing is too restrictive IMO. Now I save an encrypted text file of them all on a flash drive.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
I'm a card carrying 1Password fella.
- Micah Wittman
1Password. Syncs between multiple Macs, and it works on the iPhone, too.
- Glen Mistletoe
I can't bear to use a password program. I came up with a standardized 'cypher' that I can use at any site that I can remember and no one can guess.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If you're using a mac or multiple macs, I'd say 1Password, definitely. But on other OSes, or across multiple ones, I've heard good things about KeePass and its sync.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
I am very much considering it, but money's tight! :|
- Geoff Schultz
No, as it would cost me way too much now as I bought the 3G a year ago. Disappointed. :(
- Steve de Mena
Nope, mid contract and way too much for the upgrade
- Tom Searing
from twhirl
yes, but waiting for the Jul 11 anniversary when I bought it to make the switch. otherwise iphone 3G S will cost too much
- Ernie Oporto
from twhirl
Nope, because AT&T's non-qualified upgrade is too harsh. If I could upgrade the 3G I bought in January for $199, then I might consider it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Nope. The UK upgrade path is crazy for current 3G owners. :(
- Aaron Dyer
from Alert Thingy
yes absolutely. i am still using the original iPhone, which I have to say still works great for being two years old. I didn't see that much of an advantage to upgrading when the first 3G came out, but now there seems to be enough new features that it makes it worth it.
- Jennifer
@Jandy AT&T's upgrade policy is no different than any other cell carrier's policy, in making you wait 2 years before upgrading for a greatly reduced price. I am excited that they're subsidizing at all actually; when I bought my original iPhone there wasn't any subsidizing and I paid full-price *and* was locked into a 2-year contract. If you ask me, their policy now is a lot better than it was then.
- Jennifer
Just got my 3G for work going to try to upgrade. Not to fussed though.
- Jason Remnant
I would buy it now if I was upgrade eligible. Oh well, gotta wait until December. We'll see if it is a big deal. Personally I wouldn't want 3Gers to comfy, and get 'em while the upgrade itch is hot.
- sailorj
No because they aren't available with Verizon :(
- Adam Martin
No. Will wait for the next iphone when my two year contract comes up for renewal. iPhone 3GS features and price are not worth it for me.
- Carlos
Yes. I have a first gen iPhone, the better battery life, autofocus camera, video, gps and compass are enough & being faster also
- Shannon Clark
No. Like many others, I'm mid contract. I'd pay $299 for the update, but not $399 or $499 depending on the model.
- Michael Groner
upgrade price not worth it for features i get with quickpwn
- Tyler Gillies
from email
Tyler - you are just flat out wrong. A jailbroken iPhone won't have: autofocus camera (of higher quality), builtin compass, be ready for next gen data networks (up to 7mps), have a faster processor & better battery. I'm upgrading from a 1st gen so the diff is big if I had a 3G it might be closer
- Shannon Clark
i was mostly using hyperbole. those features just aren't worth the upgrade price to me.
- Tyler Gillies
Just checked, I have to wait until February. Aarrrgh!
- Paul Ring
Not available on my provider, another year on contract. Also starting a new job, so will probably get a company mobile (Crackberry). So probably not getting one any time soon.
- David Wright
from twhirl
Data plans for AT&T are still keeping me from getting into smartphone craze...yet I may be cheap.
- Manuel Mas
Here in the UK if you have the existing Iphone 3G you probably have at least 6 months of contract to run - bit of a rollercoaster - June 19th then damn January 2010 :(
- David W
Still no pricing here. T-Mobile haven't updated their tariffs, you can arrange to be notified on the 19th though... :-S
- David Wright
from twhirl
I preordered a 3GS last night from the online apple store. I still have a first ten phone, so thankfully I qualified for the lower pricing.
- Beau Liening
Yes, but when I can get the subsidized price (December)
- Martin Johnson
definitely not before the contract renewal is possible and who knows how I will feel about it then..
- David W
@Jennifer, I know, and I agree that the initial iPhone customers got screwed, too. But just because it's an industry standard doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it. I haven't jailbroken because I was hoping to get a new handset with video support, but I may jailbreak instead in the meantime and pick up the new handset when my contract is up.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Planning to!! Features that are going to stay for a while from now. The problem in India is the price tag (31 & 36 grands). Looking forward to get one from the US. But then AT&T sucks there :O
- Praveen Vasudev
No - bad working out by o2 with regard to current 3g owners and the length of their contracts. I'm guessing they know hardcore Apple fans will buy out the remainder of their contract to get the new phone. That, I'm not going to do. I don't have £464 upfront to end my current contract and purchase the new handset.
- Charlotte M
It is really irritating me how much people are complaining about this. No one cared about their 2 year contract when the only thing to look forward to was a $30 flip phone. Maybe contracts are a dumb idea but that's the way it is. Get over it. You just received a subsidized phone a year ago. What makes you think you deserve one every single year? It's nothing that they're doing to...
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- Jennifer
already brought 16G 3Gs set for delivery purchased it as soon as the Apple store opened back up
- Kim Landwehr
In 6 months or so. O2 have the same idiotic plan as AT&T. It would cost me a fortune to cancel and then sign a new contract.
- Roberto Bonini
Yes, my Blackberry/Verizon contract is up, and I've heard people love At&T so I'm switching.
- Greg Birch
Nope. I just purchased my 3G in November. I'll wait and see what Apple comes up with in the next 18 months to replace mine when my contract expires.
- Bryan Clark
AT&T sucks, and I am not willing to allow Apple to decide what applications can be put on my phone
- Chad Albert
I like AT&T but, I sure don't like their iPhone plan. Might get me a G1 or another HTC product that will take android.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Unfortunately, I just bought two iPhone 3Gs....so I'm going to wait a while. It seems every time I purchase an Apple product, they drop the price soon thereafter. Which is okay -- since I'm willing to overpay for Apple products but not pay discount for anything Microsoft at this point.
- Curt Mercadante
Nope - N97 unlocked for me. Even at ~$600 it's cheaper than the Iphone. Plus better camera, physical keyboard, FM transmitter, etc etc
- Mark Zip
I've been waiting to buy an iPhone and plan to make the 3GS my first one.
- Herb Hernandez
nope. 3G with 3.0 OS is good enough for me.
- Johnny
from fftogo
Not unless AT&T waives their STUPID $200 loyal customer tax
- Graphic Makeovers
I'm getting the new iPhone 3GS because I have been delaying my buy decision for new cellphone waiting for Apple to drops it's new iPhone
- Sebastiaan van den Akker
we need lastpass for iphone. I understand iphone 3.0 will remember passwords, but who want to re-enter them all?
- Ernie Oporto
Well as far as i know they have an app for the current iphone, guess they will have one for iphone 3.0 eventually
- Gordon Swaby
Lastpass bookmarklets do most of what I need on iPhone. I'd love to see it work with apps, though. Once everyone uses OAuth, maybe that will improve, too.
- Ingo
Josh, the friends/ids and followers/ids methods will let you do one bulk pull, but on anyone with over 1 million followers, Twitter returns errors and bugs out. So you have to call it by page, which only returns 5,000 records at a time. For someone with 1.6 million followers, that's 320 requests, just for the followers I have to make!
- Jesse Stay
Josh, trying to get the followers of various top users on Twitter. :-)
- Jesse Stay
"I just loaded Chrome for Mac. While only a dev version, it all seems to be there. The speed is really good on heavy javascript pages. My standby is still FF, although I keep Safari up to date now on the Mac for when I'm debugging some code or the rare cookie conflict. As for IE being forced, in Windows dominated entreprises, where Group Policies are often set, requiring a uniform version across the company is not a hard thing. If IE8 deserves mainstream use, then it will propagate appropriately. The enterprise is always last to join this trend since they need to be careful that whatever theyre installing doesn't "Vista" their business."
- Ernie Oporto
As a relatively new FF member, it pointed out some people I should be following, since they seem to like what I like.
- Lorraine Ball
That's what I use it for too, Lorraine. I try to make sure I'm following all my top 20. Also helps to weed out who I'm not finding very intresting.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mine is pretty spread out like this. I'm an equal opportunity FF member.
- Ernie Oporto
bump. I just found this and it appears to be working
- Greg Guitarbuster
Ah, thanks, I forgot to bookmark it and had forgotten it's name
- Michael W. May
Brad, I don't see how that reference applies at all here.
- Tyler Hayes
Twitter has not jumped the shark. It is not dead. It is simply popular, however quickly it's on its way to jumping the shark.
- Matthew Allen Horton
This looks encouraging for the people of half her age to join the web bandwagon.
- ashish
This is wonderful! PS: Why are there always some people who have to make stupid comments?
- Verena Fuchs
Not only is this a testament as to the popularity of the Twitter social networking service, but it also disproves the old stereotype that the elderly doesn't understand today's technology.
- Thomas Ward
It wouldn't be too fast for her. There are assistive technologies (puff and sip) and new ones coming that can keep up.
- Melanie Reed
Just use pause, like I do. Live streaming is too much like watching TV, which immediately turns me off.
- Ernie Oporto
I hope some more people "follow" her and enjoy the internet. It does not replace the joy of social life but she can enjoy having the feeling of being connected.
- ashish
Longevity isn't for wimps. However, if you make it to 100+, you too can enjoy an exciting rewarding future as a media-prop for some random future technology. Of course, you'll suck, because you're old; for we all know that http://alloldpeoplesuck.blogspot.com/ -- #Sardonic-Hyperbole-With-A-Message
- michael silverton
Scam is bullshit. She's on there and still tweeting. Whether she's on Twitter because of a newspaper or because someone but a gun to her head, ages still on there, 104 years old and still Tweeting. Ahh, there, I feel better :)
- Zee.
oh and she just tweeter twice in the last 45 mins
- Zee.
Ivy is so sweet! A living testament that social media demographics are constantly evolving!
- Anna Barcelos
i don't even remember i think it was planet something or i dunno something like that no wait i don't know why i'm thinking earlyalert.com i don't know i'm probably wrong lol
- Cardeen Martinez
crikey, i've never even heard of some of these...
- Zee.
1st public internet email was via easy.com ... my own domain via ISP I started in 1993. 1st corporate email was 1978 ish internal on our private global DECNET, connected to public Internet in about 1984.
- Don Strickland
A shell account in '92, I forget with who. Was BBS'ing for years before that, and they sort of had email.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
mail.com. Alternative back than was only hotmail (I think, can't remember about yahoo) which totally sucked. I think mail.com is extinct now, but they used to have multiple domains. And I had about 5 different accounts. 4, 5, or 6MB, can't really remember exactly. Wow, the days... This is one example (of many) where I'm very happy we are where we are today.
- Vlad Bobleanta
I can't remember. Possibly Yahoo, but I think Yahoo may have come later...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Compuserve, then "Niftyserve" the licensee of Compuserve here in Japan. We have it so good now!
- Rick Cogley
Hotmail, way back in 1998 (although before that I had an ISP email through Frontier)
- Brandon Mendelson
Prodigy in 1991, followed shortly thereafter by AOL 1.0 for the Mac, then Compuserve. And finally a POP internet dialup with Chicago's Interaccess in about 1992 after getting Adam Engst's Internet starter kit book that came with a copy of the Mac/TCP control panel on a 3 1/2" floppy.
- Adam Turetzky
My first was at work. heamin@sunshine.vab.unisysgsg.com -- no joke. Then I had an alumna account with Virginia Wesleyan, and then I think I picked up a yahoo account. My first web site was on geocities, and it was so kewl for its time, too. :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Technically, my first email address was on an internal mail service for a large corporation back in 1991, but it was possible to email other people on the internet with a byzantine series of pipes, slashes, gateways and hostnames. My first personal email on the internet proper was with a regional dialup service called pics.com in 1992.
- dthree
I had brlewis@mit.edu in 1986 way before there ever was such a thing as spam. Now there's probably not a single spammer's list out there that doesn't have that address. I still log in there occasionally.
- Bruce Lewis
A tiny, local ISP here in Vermont call Kingdom Connection. I was one of the first 25 subscribers I think, and I still have my original e-mail address. Scary.
- Bob M. Montgomery
Prodigy. Then AOL. Then Berkeley.edu followed by Earthlink.net, Home.com, ATTBI.com, and then Mac.com. (Also in there, GMail, Excite, Netscape, and work accounts, etc.)
- Louis Gray
Hotmail - Sometime in 1997 I think. My first email account for work was in 1998.
- David Yarnell
AOL. I was so excited to get Hotmail because at the time, it was cooler than AOL. Heh. Then Yahoo and now Gmail. And that's it, not counting work/school accounts.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Mine was AOL over my 2400 baud modem.
- Allen Blair
<student id>@<sydney university undergrad domain), then something at extro.com.au which was the Sydney University dial up provider then good ol iname.com. I thought that would be my non service provider bound email address, till they decided to charge for it. Thank god for gmail.
- Tom Horn
Actually, my first email was with MCI*Mail. NOT internet email. The next one was Compuserve. Still not internet. My first internet account was on a server at my employer in Austin.
- Glen Mistletoe
My math prof gave me an account on a NeXT box.
- Hiro Asari
ISP provider, bellsouth.net, I then upgraded to Hotmail. lol
- Sharon McPherson
Back in Romania, when the whole Internet thing was just showing up there (1993?), a VAX/VMS machine (roearn.ici.ac.ro, also ROEARN on Bitnet)
- Tudor Bosman
Prodigy. Before that I was on BBS which was my first chatroom, a lot of people trying to log into a room that would only fit 8. Good times.
- zephyrlily
Well my first email was hotmail in like 2004, but before that, our family account was yahoo which was around 94/95 (which i think it was better UI then vs today) now i use gmail for everything!
- Bryce Campbell
The University of Leeds in 1997, closely followed by Yahoo Mail in the same week. I still have the Yahoo account but only use it to log into Flickr.
- Martin Bryant
Compuserve...over and over again with those 30 day trials :)
- Mark Krynsky
On the WWW it was msn.com but I was on BBS before then and the address was something like portofcall.net
- Kol Tregaskes
Back at my college (ISU) in the early 90's. Used Pine on a Unix server.
- Ward Seward
Hotmail for me too. Amazing that it's still so popular
- Gee Ranasinha
Two at same time, utk.edu for work and hotmail for personal, I actually still use that hotmail acct.
- Brytne
from Nambu
Why is everyone hating on Hotmail? Oh yeah, I know, it's cool to bash MS. It was and is one of the better webmails out there. My first was yahoo.co.uk
- Matt Hall
not for sure but i am guessing hotmail maybe yahoo
- (jeff)isageek
Luukku, it's finnish email service. Not really good...
- Kristian Salonen
AOL for sure -- had one under my parents' account, probably early to mid 90s. Signed up for Hotmail in 1997 when I was in college (still have that account, though I really never use it). Of course, I had a standard-issue "geneseo.edu" college account starting in 1996 when I started college.
- mark
Actually, I lie, cmich.edu was my second - some funky FidoNet address leading to a BBS was the first.
- l.m.orchard
from twhirl
erols out of Maryland then hotmail then gmail with an occasional visit to yahoo mail cause they made me have a yahoo mail account for yahoo IM and other Yahoo properties (flickr).
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Compuserve, then Demon and well.com
- Fraser Smith
It was "pobox.sk" <- clever name for an email for that time :) abandoded them after some other guys has offered pop3 for free. History long gone.
- Dušan Šimonovič
OMG am I as old as Leo Laporte? LOL no, but I had an email account at Rutgers Univ that was numbers (I don't remember what it was though) & then Prodigy was my first - PCChick. funny I'm a mac girl now.
- Lynette Young
Local ISP then Hotmail and Yahoo! mail.
- Ninh Nguyen
Hotmail, at the time it was good compated to everyone else, then went down the toilet fast, it's better these days but I prefer my Gmail account thank you.
- Eric Fisher
yahoo...still use it, but hate its non-existent spam filter...gmail is still the best at spam cleaning...i have hotmail for msn, but recently they've improved the mail feature, so i use more often now
- brainno722 (Peter)
Compuserve (73000,673 if memory serves me right)... and some other obscure usenet type account through a local BBS.
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Hotmail. Agree it was awful! I can't believe I ever thought it was okay for the first page of my email client to be a page filled with ads, as opposed to the actual inbox.
- Jess Lee
Compuserve. I don't think it was possible to send formatted text outside of Compuserve back then.
- howard shippin
TSO, which started out as tso.uc.edu but eventually became tso.cin.ix.net.
- Wirehead
UUCP email account at Bell Labs, reached via something like ucbvax!ihnp4!...!fcy Then an account at mcs.net, a Chicago area ISP.
- Fred Yankowski
MyOwnEmail.com. I don't know if they're even still around.
- James Ferguson
I can't remember if I did juno or hotmail first. I think juno....
- EricaJoy
Mine was with netins.net because they offered toll-free dial-up access in the Spring of 1995
- Michael K Pate
Mine was a free email account from a local ISP (community.net).
- Beau Liening
oh shit... it must've been Compuserve, although I don't remember if I had real email in there.If not, Yahoo Mail was the first portal mail I had (and I had jungleg@yahoo.com, but then lost it for some reason and couldn't get it back)
- Jorge Escobar
Prodigy! Oh wow. That was a long time ago. I remember I had some 25 cents an e-mail plan. I used to get in trouble from my parents when I went over my allotted amount. I can't imagine paying 25 cents an e-mail today.
- Jennifer Mitchell
Local ISP, Connect2 I think was the name. Haha. Didn't even have 56K internet speed yet at the time. First web based email was Hotmail before Microsoft acquired it.
- Rolf Schewe
Other than my Bell Labs account? Delphi. Fun-ky...
- John Blossom
AOL and then Hotmail....two real winners.....not!
- Bonnie Foster
Hotmail for me. I haven't used it in 3 years.
- Michael Forian
My first emailaddress was at my own designstudio: hoofdcommissaris@cops.nl (meaning 'chief of police') And brought me my nickname Hoof (or Hoof99).
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Messaging on the Univac in late 70s probably, at the college. BITNET, HEPNET, ARPANET in late 1980s. (Ignoring the BBS phenom of 80s.) EDU & GOV 1989+ My own domain I hosted around 1994. NEVER AOL or that fake-Internet stuff of the mid-90s. Ewww! After years of GOV, moved to COM at work in 1999. Started using GMAIL for all my personal mail when that was in Beta. I now have about 20 domains forward to GMAIL.
- John Johnson
not counting university and school, or BBSes? My first email account would then have been jnebbe@ibm.net (back the first time when IBM did internet services) - they were one of the few to have reasonable dial up plans with a multi-country presence - and I was using OS/2 a lot then too. After it got bought by ATT and they changed the address, I decided that I would always have my own domain for email, so I would never lose people because I lose an email. Hosted it myself for years, now it's all with fastmail
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Are you an early or late person? I had to be somewhere earlier today and the person gave me incomplete directions and I was running about 10 minutes late. I was completely stressed out because I hate being late, and I still arrived before anyone else.
Early if there is money involved. On time for prompt friends. Late for friends who usually make me wait anyway. Cameo appearance if I don't like the company or event.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Sadly I am now a late person. I was raised better, with 10 minutes early being right on time. But the past 5 years have seen me go from Nazi-level obsessed 'on time dude' to 'Huh? What? It's 930 already? I'll be there in like, um, by 3 or so?'
- Morgan Haley
I'm an early person but most of the time I get there just on time and before everyone else.
- Ernie Oporto
It drives me crazy to show up for a 10:00 meeting and wait until 10:20-10:30 for everyone to get there.
- Trish R
Mattie, hmmm...other than the desktop thing, it does not keep you tied to all-knowing Google, something which a paranoid nut like me feels happy about. Perhaps, this post can probably explain it better. http://tinyurl.com/2vrjaa
- JazJaz
from twhirl
Please try the latest beta version for a week.
- JazJaz
Flock Browser is far superior or if not I will agree wit Greader, Friendfeed and Twhirl :)
- Ian Cleasby
from twhirl
One really good reason to use a desktop reader is that some of them can monitor pages that don't have a feed and alert you to any changes. Essential feature for keeping ALL of your software up to date. Additionally, there are feeds you can't subscribe to in Google Reader, because they require authentication, and unfortunately that's not something Google Reader supports.
- April Russo (app103)
I like Google Reader too, but I am an administrator on 3 forums and have to subscribe to feeds for the admin boards, and that requires a reader that can accept a username & pass to log me in to access the nonpublic feeds. I also like having popup notification when new posts are made on these forums, so I can quickly delete spam within 30 seconds of it being posted.
- April Russo (app103)
feedly is messy. google reader has toomany limitations and is visually all screwed up. i don't understand why newsgator doesn't make an rss reader similar to netnewswire. feeddemon isn't horrible, but it could be so much better. netnewswire is probably the best i've tried and continue to use. only for mac, but the best thing is that it's free.
- Cee Bee
Cee Bee: Is there a specific part of feedly you find messy?
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Excuse my novice-ship, but one condition I enjoy about feedly is that it allows me to both upload to my twitter and my friendfeed accounts, almost simultaneously, and the luxury of sharing it with other g-friends. Now, if feeddemon can do all of this, I'm sold.Sold I tells ya!!
- Terence
edwin -- i have over 600 subscriptions and found it a bit of a nuisance to navigate in the small space on feedly as well as view other people's shares. this goes the same for google -- it tries to fit too much into one space (notes, shares, suggestions, options, etc) whereas with a stand alone program like netnewswire, i can have all the options, settings and other gadgets for different functions not only in a separate tool bar, but menu as well leaving the dedicated rss reader to do what it does best
- Cee Bee
cee bee - thanks for the feedback. I will pass that to the design team.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
used to use that when I didnt have a Mac , it is a good one
- johnpiercy
For those of you who don't know already, FeedDemon is the (slightly) lesser cousin of NetNewsWire. They both share the same parent - Newsgator.
- JazJaz
Just started using this yesterday, and I'm convinced. I LOVE this app.
- Flora
from twhirl
Unfortunately I think any app has to be benchmarked against Google Reader. If not, it's nothing more than an RSS scraper.
- Glenn Batuyong
have been using this when a) i had to pay for it and b) google reader did not exist. and still love it. if only for sentimental reasons ....
- denise
I don't think I'll ever use a desktop RSS reader. I need my reader to be in the cloud b/c I read from 3 workstations. I love Google reader esp w/ sharing.
- Keith - @tsudo
@tsudohnimh FeedDemon can synchronize feeds across multiple computers too. And you can also share items just like you do with Google Reader. Trouble is, not many people know about these features. FD can be customized to provide an uncluttered, aesthetic interface to read your feeds.
- JazJaz
@JazJaz ty for the info. Does it also provide a web interface for reading feeds?
- Keith - @tsudo
tsudo, FeedDemon syncs with newsgator, which on top of syncing each copy of FeedDemon with each pc you use, also syncs with their online reader at http://www.newsgator.com, also mobile at http://m.newsgator.com
- Shmoe
No web version mean me no like. I don't want to keep installing apps. I want cross platform compatibility.
- Ernie Oporto
@Ernie this synchronizes with google reader or newsgator
- Paul Whitaker
The GReader sync feature doesn't work. I tried it and it failed.
- LANjackal
Nambu, because I like to access any thread with a single click (sidebar) and I can create custom groups based on searches and followers. Nambu rocks :)
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
TweetDeck - I like the groups feature. The interface & tools (including filtering) are intuitive. I used to like Twhirl, but TweetDeck's group feature won me over. For now.
- phil baumann
Leandro, you can add searches to groups too on Nambu? How?
- Zee.
I've tried twhirl and tweetdeck but I much prefer using the site. On the Blackberry I'm now using Ubertwitter. Liking it better than Twitterberry.
- ♥patricia♥
I use Tweetdeck for my company's account, because of the groups and search features. Twitterfox at work for my personal account, because it's tiny and inobtrusive. At home, I think I'll probably be using Tweetie most since the latest version fixed my issues with notifications and RT syntax, but I still have Seesmic Desktop and Twhirl around for good measure. On the iPhone, Tweetie.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
@rob there are so many really easy way to post to ping.fm, surely that cant be the only reason your sticking with Twhirl?
- Zee.
Tweetdeck - mainly for the same reasons phil mentioned.
- Taylor
shrug, the message routing worked easiest. So I can still use SMS to ping.fm if i'm out. ideally i'd just like my client to ping.fm then have them push it out.
- rob friedman
Tweetie! [Oh, why - multiple accounts, simplicity (yet still does search, url shortening and retweet). iPhone version previews links and sends to instapaper, which I find indispensable. Both mac and iphone.]
- Eric Johnson
looking Leandro, but say i search for "sheep" how to add that to my "animals" group?
- Zee.
Ping.fm ..oh and Tiny Twitter on my Blackberry.
- Candace
well simply add a search box, like those mines "fibertel" and "friendfeed" both are searches to the public timeline
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
you mean, add the search to an existing group like persons.. hmm no.. But anyway searches are permanent until you remove them.. On twitter.. Nambu is Twitter only at the moment
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
well its either make imaginary friends or pollute the namespace with rooms for your stuff
- rob friedman
@Leandro have you checked out the bleeding edge version of EventBox?
- Zee.
I like Tweetdeck, but I'm more of Twirl user.
- Helen Sventitsky
@Zee I've tried it long time ago, I think first released version, did they improved it?
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
TweetDeck. Works on Win 7 and Linux. Like the layout. Use UberTwitter on the Blackberry though, way faster than TwitterBerry.
- Ian May
tweetie. multiple accounts, nice look, simplicity. Before that it was Nambu. And before that, Tweetdeck. I may go back. :)
- Eugene Huo
wow, i'm surprised no one has said eventbox yet and even more surprised no one has mentioned seesmic desktop
- Zee.
Tweetdeck, mainly, but Seesmic Desktop, despite its faults (like reflowing for no reason, and screwing it up), is growing on me. Mainly because it has multiple account support.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
twitter.com, Tweetie for iPhone. Have tried Tweetdeck, don't like it.
- Kevin Matheny
I mentioned Seesmic Desktop! Uh, to say I wasn't using it... But whatever. Actually, I like Seesmic, but I want to see more support for more services in it before I use it a lot. For just Twitter, I like the other clients better.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
TwitVim + Friendfeed. I'm biased because I wrote TwitVim but I also post some @replies from FF.
- Morton Fox
Leandro, try eventbox bleeding edge version - it has smart folders which let you combine twitterers, twitter searches, rss feeds, friends from facebook and more. It really is the ultimate "grouping" i've come across. The downside...if you follow a lot of people and have a lot of rss feeds, you get the spinning wheel a lot...they're working on fixing that though
- Zee.
Tweetdeck for reasons mentioned, as well as the ability to add a column for search. UI seems more intuitive.
- jcunwired
@Zee I've just tried it.. But I found it very noisy. I've my Facebook + Twitter + Flickr accounts and received a lot of notifications. Anyway I'll give a try tomorrow and tell you. Thanks
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
from IM
The Air clients I've tried -- Twirl, etc, just don't handle well enough for me. No drag & drop, strange paste from the clipboard. They're so glaringly not mac apps. As a dev, I understand why co's do them, but, as a user, too many compromises -- especially when the Tweeties & Twitteriffics are out there. Anybody else feel this way? Or am I just one of those fussy mac users :)?
- Eric Johnson
PeopleBrowsr on the desktop - way more powerful than Tweetdeck or Seesmic. More networks(Facebook, FriendFeed, identi.ca Youtube, digg, more), better search, Twitter DM via email, extended profiles, in-line thread viewing, more stacks(columns) Available as Browser app OR AIR. On the mobile (nokia 6085 j2me phone) jibjib.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
i am using twhirl i love twhirl not a fan of tweetdeck i kinda like the seesmic desktop but still twhirl is my drug of choice (cus it does have the FF access in it)
- Angela P.
I understand the Beta will do that [multiple accounts] Mark: And Mac version? It's AIR or in your browser...platform agnostic
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Zee: I've made some suggestion to the devs about the business about it. and changing the default colors REALLY helps. It's a really complicated application and has a learning curve, but IMO well worth it
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Also Peoplebrowsr is supposed to be coming with a Lite version (which I haven't tried yet)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'm back and forth between Tweetdeck and Seesmic Desktop, but I keep going back to PowerTwitter. I like seeing where the links are headed. And I like seeing the vids previews and the pix without going to a link.
- Bryan R. Adams
TweetDeck right now. Was using Twhirl, then decided to give TweetDeck a try. I like the Facebook integration on TweetDeck and the larger layout on the laptop. Twhirl was a bit small. However, i liked the search and search alerts better on twhirl. TweetDeck after three screens, falls off the page. Loaded SeesmicDesktop today, so that's next. Tweetie on the iPhone does it for me. TweetShrnk and bit.ly features also nice on TweetDeck
- Mike Lizun
Tweetie on iPhone and Mac. I tried Eventbox but didn't like it because it was built more like an RSS reader and I only want to see twitter updates. I've tried twhirl and seesmic desktop, but I prefer tweetie because it's native. (still don't understand why twhirl has seesmic support but seesmic desktop doesn't)
- Aaron Hood
from BuddyFeed
Since tweetie/mac is out i find myself launching it, mainly since it helps me follow the conversations easily, ah yeah and it's UI is amazing and compensate for several features it misses and twitter is not enough i want my FB as well as FF in the same client. EventBox & Nambu are two other apps i play with, Nambu looks like having a very good potential (they should invest little bit...
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- Naor Mark
DestroyTwitter on AIR and Twitterfon on iPhone. DestroyTwitter is a nice and clean looking Twitter client which I like just a little better than TweetDeck. Twitterfon is a free Twitter client for the iPhone. It's at least just as good as Tweetie.
- Rutger Blom
FriendFeed - webbased and I can maintain lists
- Alexander Benker
Tweestvisor, though I'd like to have it in an app so I can use it like a sidebar. Some features still missing but it's easily the best one to create groups with. TweetDeck is awful at this. I've not really tried Seesmic Desktop much but it's looks pretty atm. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Twitterific on the Mac, best usability IMO. TwitterGadget embedded into iGoogle on Windows, Twitter is blocked.
- Parth Awasthi
Tweetdeck, Twitter.com, SocialToo and checking Seesmic Desktop out right now ;)
- Nicholas James
The website, because that's how I control how much time I spend on Twitter / Friendfeed / etc.
- Vincent van Wylick
Twitterrific / Tweetie for OS X. Twitterfon iPhone (untill the new V2 Twitterrific update comes out) Twitterfox on work PC.
- Simon Wicks
Tweetie on my iPhone, Twitterfall on my Mac.
- Jalada
tweetdeck for organisation, ubiquity for quick posts
- Mark Edmondson
Tweetvisor multi accounts/groups/twitpic/feed reader saves my searches into hot topic real time option the best i have found so far and i use twitterfox for pop up feature when away from Tweetvisor
- eric
Seesmic Desktop. If I had to pick one reason, it would be the support for multiple accounts.
- Herb Hernandez
Tweetie on Mac and TwitterFox on Linux.
- Ninh Nguyen
yeah, shame. He said that digg and identi.ca are coming soon. And full facebook integration is a couple of months away
- Zee.
Digg will come back in Eventbox, 'cause Digg have allowed it
- Waldemar Schott
Twhirl. I have 2 Twitter accounts. I also like the ease with which I can do things like reply, retweet, etc. Plus, it's a nice small footprint on my screen.
- Tim Chemacki
TweetDeck and Seesmic Desktop (cause I like to mess with new stuff and dig Twitscoop trending integrated in TweetDeck)
- Charlie Anzman
Tweetie. It's smooth and not the screen real estate and resource hog that TweetDeck is.
- Kevin Pedraja
Tweetdeck and Twitterberry. Love Tweetdeck for the searches and I don't think I have much choice when it comes to Twitterberry.
- Owen
Tweetdeck until last week and now trying Seesmic and liking it for the Facebook integration. On WM I use mostly PockeTwit - the latest version is very slick.
- Philip Ferris
Right now I'm concentrating on learning to manage FriendFeed (creating lists, folders, setting up GMail to intergrate w/FF, etc....). Checking Twitter and Facebook on site to make sure I don't miss anyone's communications. Would love to have everything integrated (blog, website, reader, StumbleUpon,FF, Facebook, Twitter, etc.. AND email all on one feed) Dreaming?
- Molly
@Molly, no you shouldn't be (dreaming that is)...Lets just hope Friendfeed adds features so it can become property twitter client in itself. We need retweeting, (optional) posting without links back to friendfeed and (optional) hiding of all @replies...that should really do it.
- Zee.
just the website, the twitter via IM stopped working a while ago and i have yet to find a client that i like....
- denise
Seesmic Desktop, multi accts, facebook feed.
- adolfo foronda
I know I won't win this argument, but FF is not a Twitter client. FF does much more than that. If anything, Twitter is a FF client. And I use Tweetdeck BTW
- Fleagle
DestroyTwitter it has an easy to use interface, groups, search, 3 column or single column interface. A lot of great preferences.
- Frisley Velasquez
@Fleagle - Twitter dated themselves from the get-go. I can't (and won't) be limited to 140 characters. I do not like that responses/replies just seem to randomly show up (instead of being tied to their original conversation). As someone that's been an IRC addict for nearly 15 years, seeing something like twitter is just weak. Both twitter and FriendFeed are (in my opinion) very, VERY...
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- LarchOye
Tweetie-- support for multiple accounts, and it's really fast.
- Kevin Gamble
Twhirl. But keep an eye out for Statuzer. A couple of features still missing there, but when they're added, I'll probably switch.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Twhirl...tweetdeck was it for awhile, but I came back to Twhirl
- Derek
Digsby, because it integrates with Facebook/Facebook Chat, MySpace and LinkedIn and FF via Google Chat, among a myriad other things
- LANjackal
tweetdeck - groups, twitscoop, facebook friends, and it's just easy
- John G
FriendFeed - web based, groups, Likes/comments
- Hutch Carpenter
I was using TweetDeck, but now I'm using Seesmic Desktop. I like the new Facebook features. Plus, the passion and energy @loic brings to the project makes me want to support it.
- Alexander Grundner
What Twitter client? FriendFeed! ;-)) TweetDeck. Gonna try Seesmic desktop soon
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Twhirl, because of multiple accounts and usability
- Artem K
Tweetdeck because of Facebook integration and search. I like the additional columns for particular search topics. However, lately, I've been mostly using FriendFeed...
- mark
Could not agree more. Recent Twitter publicity has prompted a few of my Facebook contacts to try Twitter, and they get confused there... If I get them to Friendfeed then it would look like a 'most gruesome moments from Scanners' clip, what with all the exploding heads... ;-)
- Andy Bold
I know :( And explaining is too much effort. The general public is still getting used to social networking - especially with the concept of interacting with people they don't know. *added: not to mention "like". People still don't see it as a tool to initiate interactions.
- Mona Nomura
Yes they do. Baby steps for those non-early adopters and those setting out on the social networking trail. Spent about 20 mins at a dinner on Saturday trying to get rid of the fear factor one guy had for FB. There's a lot of anxiety out there folks!
- Kate Foy
Well I introduced my Mum to FriendFeed today, so the race is on. If my Mum gets the hang of it then there is no excuse anyone else could, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
One of my friends who's been on Facebook for ages started playing with Twitter recently - a few weeks later, her FB status was "is getting weirded out by Twitter." When I asked why, the response was "ANYONE can follow you." And I was like, uh, yeah, that's why it's better than Facebook, it's not closed off...but she wasn't there yet.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
That's great and you guys are great for helping them. I'm not knocking FriendFeed but when you're dealing with the masses (as in thousands - hundreds of thousands of people), there is just no way. Remember, we are tkg abt a public that is still scared to interact.
- Mona Nomura
david letterman was talking about twitter on friday. he says writing notes is still the best way. ;)
- edythe
Talked to a few people about Twitter the other day (they were wondering about it because of all the recent celeb hype), but they still don't see the appeal/utility/fun of the site. FB on the other hand... everyone gets that. I think it's part, all-in-one functionality and part everyone else is doing it so it's easy psychology.
- felix
I think the best way to explain FriendFeed is that it brings together all those networking sites like Twitter your friends are using so they only have to check one place. Unfortunately, it requires them to set up all their networking sites unless you set up an imaginary friend which is a difficult concept for most of them. It has great potential, but the interface needs to be simplified in order for the masses to handle it.
- Ernie Oporto
Ernie, the problem with that is that most people are already doing that with Facebook - using Facebook's built-in functionality for photos, video, status updates, link sharing, etc. rather than the individual services that pipe into FriendFeed. For them, FriendFeed is a solution to a problem they don't have. (I don't personally like FB's all-in-one approach; I'm just interpreting how I see my friends using Facebook vs. other social media.)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Facebook can never be as good at managing, say, photos as a site that is dedicated to managing photos. This is good if you consider your interaction and data as ephemeral (get your pictures up, people look at them, everyone forgets about them because time marches on), but not ideal. They can try to be everything to everyone, but they won't be really strong in any of those areas. That's both good and bad, and may or may not fit in with everyone's usage model and goals.
- Andy Bakun
HAHA Good luck to any developers that want to tackle Facebook's API. It's a disaster and NONE of the apps run right with the slightest change from FB's side HAHAHAHA.
- Mona Nomura
I think FB is easy for people to get because most people just connect with others who they already know offline. FriendFeed, on the other hand, is like Twitter for many in that the connections made here are new. Personally, I've never met another FriendFeed user face-to-face.
- Dennis O'Neil
Ya, I've only met one person I met from FriendFeed in person and all my real life friends on here don't use it lolol. But the Myspace / Facebook crowd (the mass) is finally moving on to Twitter. :)
- Mona Nomura
And that's the way it should be, Facebook is not FriendFeed. I want to organise a party I'll use Facebook. If I want to get some work done (and feed my family) I'll use FriendFeed.
- David Eedle
@Mona My husband's a techy guy, and he gets confused by Facebook. That API opening is going to make things even worse...
- Helen Sventitsky
Helen: "HAHA Good luck to any developers that want to tackle Facebook's API. It's a disaster and NONE of the apps run right with the slightest change from FB's side HAHAHAHA. - You (edit | delete)" <--from up there, somewhere.
- Mona Nomura
+Helen. I *totally* understand FF, but I'm very confused by the latest incarnation of FB. I think lots of people use and understand FB well enough, but they don't get how FF is sleeker, better, and more flexible.
- Kamilah Gill
I find that Friendfeed is so much easier to navigate. I mess about in Facebook and just get annoyed.
- Yolanda
Mona & Helen EL Oh EL yup that's why they came up with the brilliant idea of Facebook connect and hustle workable Apps from other sites with more stable APIs
- sofarsoShawn
Sorry, Mona. I was responding to that. Edited for clarity...
- Helen Sventitsky
I think FriendFeed will be the "Twitter Killer" for the early adopters "Jumping Shark" because the Hollywood celebrities are taking over Twitter. For the masses, Twitter is the new Myspace.
- Mona Nomura
Love that Mona I'm going to Tweet that
- sofarsoShawn
Totally agree with Twitter being the new MySpace. The signal:noise ratio on Twitter is turning from bad to worse
- Bindu Reddy
I find twitter so easy to use. Facebook makes me jump thru lots of silly crap half the time.
- Ian May
"FriendFeed needs a clone that will hook into FriendFeed itself, where the clone is the lite version and FriendFeed itself is the advanced version. This could lead to a Pro or advertiser based system. The time is now to fork the Twitter idea. Will this FriendFeed clone be ready with features that Twitter doesn't have, while hooking into it to co-opt everyone back into FriendFeed? Will it be OAuth ready while Twitter is still getting its feelers out for that. Do users care about that stuff? Is FriendFeed even ready for that kind of server load?"
- Ernie Oporto
I joined on April 23, 2009. - 1 day. Took me long enough, right?
- Angus Burton
You don't need to use some third party site, this information's in user info available via the API. Just look for "created_at" in the url http://twitter.com/users..., using your user ID, of course.
- Ken Sheppardson
I deleted my account at one point, and have subsequently shuffled and renamed some stuff, but it looks like KenSheppardson's been there since November 5, 2007
- Ken Sheppardson
218 days ago. Now how about whendidyoujoinfriendfeed.com
- Kiran Patchigolla
617 days -- more important though - when was the last time I actively used it (not sure -- is there a similar tool to tell me when I joined FF? :-) )
- Brian Sullivan
Or just click on your profile in tweetdeck / many other "clients" -- it will tell your joined date. I joined Fri 07 Mar 2008 23:57.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I make it 279 days if my math is correct.
- Sharron Field
I joined April 2007. wish I could figure it out # of days...the link above isn't cooperating :( Loving tho that I have been on over 700+ days ;) --- thanks Sharon McPherson for the redirect. It worked - 748 days
- enza (aka iVenus)
July 13, 2007 for two accounts, April 10, 2008 for the other.
- Kathy Fitch
19 March 2007 - 768 days ago. Just set up an account for my company and was explaining to my coworkers - when I mentioned I'd been on Twitter for about two years, they were like, wait, I thought it was only a couple of months old! *sigh* Funny that my guesstimation was so close, though!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'd sure like to see a personal Twitter timeline similar to coverflow where I can easily go back and forth through tweeting history and see what I've said over the years...
- Glenn Batuyong
772 days - i was invited much earlier but didn't see the value for me (in nyc) since it was all about what silicon valley folks were having for lunch, wait has that changed ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I joined on March 28th 2007 (759 days ago).
- Daniel Rowley
769. What's next? Slashdot user numbers are now passe. What's the next measurement of geek coolness?
- Andrew Leyden
at least 943 - one account Oct 2006, but I can't find the date for my main one.
- randulo
Ok, I'll admit it, I've shamelessly hitched a ride on Robert's coat-tail by embedding the feed from this discussion into a page on my website. http://twitclicks.com/rlrn
- Sharon McPherson