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LIFE in Israel in 1948 – Part 1 — Ben Atlas - Jewish families being evacuated from city. June 1948. John Phillips - http://benatlas.com/2009...
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kind of deflates Obama's claims about Judea
- Noah David Simon
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, didn't Obama say that there were no Jews there before 1948? If they were never there, why were they being evacuated from there? >.>
- David C. Cooper
yeah it was all because of the Holocaust... lol. their arguments are so formulaic.
- Noah David Simon
@cooperdavidc so here are Jews being thrown out of Judea. just like what Obama wants today. Ethnic Cleansing isn't good at any date
- Noah David Simon
@CriticalAnalyst Read the Torah!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
so this is a picture of the Arab Legion pushing Jews out of Jerusalem. but what about the city of Hebron... what happened there? were there Jews in Hebron? http://ff.im/6ofD3 . the argument that Obama makes is that the Jews are occupiers? what a double standard!!!!
- Noah David Simon
@jidf in some ways it is a miracle that Israel was created when she was because if it had happened today they could say that these photographs were photoshopped. but they have the original film of this at Life Magazine. it is impossible for Obama to be ethical and ask for ethnic cleansing of Jews. let's hope #Mossad is up to the task of defending the real victims and not the media lies. @IgorTheTroll2 is a #Mossad operative. Watch out @Hamas
- Noah David Simon
so how can Obama ask for ethnic cleansing of Judea? these photos are proof that it was tried before. Jerusalem has been part of the Jewish community for millenniums even when they didn't have sovereignty. the two state solution is a joke
- Noah David Simon
how about them internet cookies Obama! http://ff.im/6wpgj
- Noah David Simon
http://ff.im/6ApR4 watch this video. this guy has Israel's history down. someone needs to school the Obama Bigot
- Noah David Simon
All the girls say I'm pretty fly for a #FFFFFF guy
Raphael, Raphael, Jason Huebel, rowlikeagirl and 57 other people liked this
lol, Josh :)
- WorldofHiglet
I used to be pretty #6B5000 back in the day, but not anymore. ;)
- Josh Haley
haha that was funny! =P
- Dani Figueiredo
Well played!
- Jared Smith
*courtsies*
- Josh Haley
Once you go #000000, you never go back.
- Akiva Moskovitz
HAHAHAHAAH!!!!!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
...#0000FF.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The way I won over Akiva back in the day was by telling him what color his eyes are in hex. True story.
- Rochelle
True story. I used to have the hexcode saved but it died in the Great Unix Lightning Disaster of 2002.
- Akiva Moskovitz
geek check!
- Josh Haley
Your geek is showing! lol
- Mathew™ one of a kind
LOVE that story, Rochelle!!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
<bumps> Oops. Did I do that?
- CAJ, somewhere else
uno dos tres quatro cinco cinco seis
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
dude, you count like my daughter,.
- Carlos Ayala
I never had any problems thanks to my #DFCC33 skin
- Jorge Escobar
DING DING DING - This thread has won the geekiest thread of the day award. Well done, all.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
And I mean that only in the best of ways, no worries. ;)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I want this on a shirt!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
We can make that happen, Haggis.
- Josh Haley
LOL! I didn't notice until JUST NOW that this post is from November. Never mind geekiest thread of the day - make that geekiest thread of the year.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'm ahead of my time!
- Josh Haley
Now is one of those times I really wish that comments had timestamps. In seconds since the epoch on a thread this geeky.
- The Letter M
Ah, I remember this post when it was new and fresh. Of course, the subsequent implementation of hashtags causes bumpage and accidental double-layered geekery. I think this redefines Win.
- Slappy Line
I like Sir Slippy of Slippington.
- Trish Haley
Happy Father's Day. My thoughts are with one father. Here's who and why:
Roshan Ramachandran, Susan Beebe, Mahdi Ebrahimi and 80 other people liked this
My worst nightmare is losing one of my own sons in front of my eyes. Yesterday we saw a father hold his daughter as she died in the most horrific way I could imagine. Those images kept me from sleeping well last night. Neda is her name. Her dad was holding her as she died. He named her Neda, which means "beautiful voice." Yesterday his beautiful voice was silenced. Today he is the father I'm thinking of.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, her eyes looking up at the camera and father repeating "stay with me" strike to the core of life (and death)
- Ronald Barnett
"We make a few simple points about the events transpiring over the past week in Iran. The Iranian regime is an evil tyranny. It supports terrorists and terrorism. The United States has a debt of honor to settle with it for the kidnapping and mistreatment of American hostages thirty years ago. That disgrace is not simply a matter of history. It is a disgrace in which Iran's execrable president personally participated. We remember." -- http://www.powerlineblog.com/archive...
- Craig Eddy
She has become the face of an entire generation in Iran. I can't even imagine being this father. His daughter's face is going to be lots of places he looks and it won't be a pretty smiling face, but the one we all saw on YouTube yesterday. That's not how I'd like to remember my sons, if that ever happened to me.
- Robert Scoble
Craig: I've been thinking about that too. Iran has sacrificed any moral authority it had to tell USA off. Now we see how brutal its government is.
- Robert Scoble
Seeing her [Neda] look directly in the camera for her last breath was more sad & horrifying than seeing all the blood rush out of her seconds later. My heart broke at that moment.
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
Michael: yup. And she, at that moment, became the face of Iran's new generation and -- I believe -- changed the world forever in a way thousands of deaths couldn't. But what a father's sacrifice it took.
- Robert Scoble
Here is a comment by a spectator "At 19:05 June 20th Place: Karekar Ave., at the corner crossing Khosravi St. and Salehi st. A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed...
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- Amiroo ™
Amiroo: that is another thing that has changed. The fact that so many of us have the ability to tell the world about what we are experiencing and show it to others via video has changed the world in ways we are just starting to understand.
- Robert Scoble
It's a terrible tragedy for any father to witness the death of his own children. May their sacrifices make it all the more less likely that more people have to suffer in the same ways. This shows that no longer can governments hide tyranny with repression of the people. The people will be heard, and their voices will change the world. Yes Robert, this changed the world forever in ways that a war with thousands of deaths could never. This is much more personal, to anyone who sees it.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
She knew the risk she was taking by being on the street, and thus even by 'standing aside' was taking part. “Those who join the battle are all in the front lines”
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
no doubt about it. Now we all can feel the importance of UGC for the future of our world. If we don't have these social movements around you may not even know about the things happening in Iran. (remember CNNFail!?)
- Amiroo ™
Michael: for me as well, it was her eyes looking (or not) that has stayed with me vs. the bloodied image at the end.
- Ronald Barnett
Aaman: all those who go on the streets are brave. My wife's relatives in Iran all say they haven't left their homes since Saturday.
- Robert Scoble
Aaman:There's no battle, there is one sided murder
- Amiroo ™
What stayed with me the most is the father's reaction. That was truly horrifying.
- Leon Freyermuth
Amiroo: There is one sided murder, but that doesn't mean there is no battle. Those people in the streets are battling plenty.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
My father used to say, to be willing to achieve anything, you have to be willing to pay any price.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Aaman: Your father was right
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: yes but we hope they don't. The only possible way to win this is by silent resistance (you know like Gandhi). There's isn't any winner when violence steps in.
- Amiroo ™
Amiroo: Neda wasn't violent. She was silent and her "crime" was just being in the streets. That's one reason her image has even more power. If she had been violent her image wouldn't have had as much power.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I need to post your first comment. It is heartbreaking, thoughtful and filled with compassion!
- Myrna
Yeah that's the way to go though such a sad way unfortunately
- Amiroo ™
Happy father's day to you too :)
- FFTornado
Robert is correct, and that is the sort of non-violent protest that starts and completes great movements. I have not seen many images of violent protesters. I have seen an image of protesters caring for a wounder policeman though. This IS the behavior that the likes of Ghandi taught. To engage in true non-violence protest, you must be willing to pay any price.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Amiroo: It is unbelievably sad, but the power that she and her father bring to this struggle, may just be the power that's necessary to avoid any further large scale conflict, either between the people of Iran and their government, or between the US (or Israel) and Iran. We can hope.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob:Hopefully, but the anger that this may generate between people may lead to violent acts and slogans that actually I think the government needs to block them. I really hope people continue that way they did till now
- Amiroo ™
Amiroo: I cannot agree with your statement "I think the government needs to block them" . That is precisely the problem, is the governments around the world trying to dictate what their people can say, do, and watch, and listen to. That is precisely the problem in Iran today. I pray that that image doesn't lead to more violence, but I also understand that at a certain point, there is a necessity to fight fire with fire. Let's pray that the government of Iran can see the light before the violence escalates.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob:If it goes that way it won't be any fight fire with fire it will be punch with fire
- Amiroo ™
Amiroo: Don't underestimate the power of the people, and don't overestimate the loyalty of the military to the government. Often it is the combination of these two factors that make violence all the more unnecessary.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Robert Your powerful comment of Neda's face not being what her father wants to remember recalled for me a recent case right here in the USA of a family that has made desperate efforts to get their daughter's fatal car accident photos off the Internet which were leaked by the police. What is this saying about us and our use of the Internet? It's the same argument that was brought against...
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- Melanie Reed
Melanie: I am a free speech advocate. While I would not like it, I am going to defend it. Her face has become one of the iconic images of this struggle. How much has it changed the world? But yes, free speech is not always fun and games. I have to defend speech that often is objectionable if I am to defend our first amendment.
- Robert Scoble
this moment is the perfect time to remind everyone that the most successful resistance is the kind that allows you to live for another day; to _continue_ the fight. yes, there are times when tragic things happen, but this is _not_ the goal. martyrdom is not success. i know this video will reverberate around the world. i only hope the proper message will accompany it, too.
- MikeAmundsen
Rob:Well the problem is most (if not all) of this violence hasn't made by typical military forces, there are lots of so called Basij forces which are in the same side with the government also I think even if it succeed by fighting violently there would be such a big price to pay
- Amiroo ™
Robert, I am as well. Ironically, I am in the midst of writing a piece on this to expose a particular rhetoric that cuts it off. However, as with all things, there is always a line that protects us from extremes (which are very horrific things) while protecting that freedom of speech we cherish. Any freedoms we have, if not exercised with love, become in themselves a prison to ourselves and to those who are hurt by their corrupt exercise.
- Melanie Reed
Amiroo: Then let's ensure that all our own thoughts are on the side of success without violence. The more people that think about a given outcome (and talk about it, etc) the more likely that is to become the truth.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Would like to second the early comment about Iran's leaderships lost ability to claim moral authority of any kind. Its clear their oppressive government is more than willing to use brutal, thoughtless, violence to keep control. Imagine what they would do to the world with a nuke. They may not have ordered her killing but they built their power on the backs of brutal militias willing to do it and have not called them back.
- James Watters
Good G*d, I didn't know that was her father with her. That is just heartbreaking. :..(
- Laserone
:( Happy father's day to you, and god bless your sons:(
- Mahyaa مهیا
I too would like to add to the heart felt comments left here. Nothing quite brings it home more than seeing that innocent young woman lose her life like that. I only viewed it the once as I felt it was wrong to want to view a second time and felt almost voyeuristic in the worst way imaginable. It was brutal, sad and upsetting. Let us think of her family at this time aside from all the politics.
- Kevin J Hatton
Robert I have been thinking of: Neda, people who want to "be heard", raising awareness to influence change, and the green overlay on our icon... Why don't we do a "Web Neda's day" vs a "minute of silence" by putting all an overlay of Green on our websites for 24 h (a little bit like Google put a different logo once in a while on its home page) . Her name was Neda, you explained it means "beautiful Voice". Robert You are the incredible hulk, I am sure you could be the one turning the web in green for 1 day.
- Harscoat
Scroll the Man Down - http://img299.imageshack.us/img299...
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Penny Arcade! - Green Blackboards (And Other Anomalies) - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic...
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Haha. Thank you, Brent. <3
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from Bookmarklet
My brothers bought me a framed print of this a couple years back because I quoted it so often. :D I think my fave part is the "Shitcock".
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I've been on Twitter 886 days. How long have you been on? http://whendidyoujointwitter.com/ Answer here: (I joined November 20, 2006).
Marko Saric, Mohammad Abdurraafay, Susan Beebe and 80 other people liked this
I just tried getting on this as you tweeted it and you crashed the site! or did your followers?
- Matthew Sauer
Damn Scobleffect!
- Kevin Kuphal
Matthew and Kevin: hah!
- Robert Scoble
TechCrunch got on it February 7th, 2007.
- Robert Scoble
786 days. Started on 28 February 2007. By the way, it doesn't seem to work on Chrome on Windows. Had to fire up Firefox.
- Sam Grover
CenterNetworks got on it December 12, 2006.
- Robert Scoble
I got it on August 23 2007, 610 days
- Jaffer
758 days!
- Matthew Sauer
sir, you just crashed that site. edit - previous attempt chrome, same FF on XP
- shayne catrett
I think you just killed their website...
- Roy Herrod
I created on March19, 2008. Only 401 days for me. :)
- Paul Wade
470 days ago. wow ididnt realize it was that long i've been on twitter
- Fuad Arshad
I joined on April 4, 2008 - 385 days.
- Laurie Stoker
I joined twitter 910 days ago on 27 October 2006
- Willem Karssenberg
I joined on April 23, 2009. - 1 day. Took me long enough, right?
- Angus Burton
You don't need to use some third party site, this information's in user info available via the API. Just look for "created_at" in the url http://twitter.com/users..., using your user ID, of course.
- Ken Sheppardson
300 days
- Thomas Power
I deleted my account at one point, and have subsequently shuffled and renamed some stuff, but it looks like KenSheppardson's been there since November 5, 2007
- Ken Sheppardson
I joined twitter 829 days ago - http://whendidyoujointwitter.com ?
- Rom Feria
Jul 30, 2007
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April 19, 2007
- Joe Buhler
Your account was created on 1 August 2007
- Jay Neff
20 March 2007, to follow @Veronica. :) Even beat @leolaporte by 20 days!
- Surferbill
11 August 2007, 623 days ago.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
26 January 2009 - so 88 days ago... not really that long to be honest, I kept avoiding it!
- Roy Herrod
756 days ago for me
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Dec 6, 2006. 870 days ago
- Rodfather
759!!!
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568 days ago.
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799 days.
- Morton Fox
November 30th 2007, A year less than you.
- Paul Bainbridge
750 days @thbenkoe
- thomas benkö
218 days ago. Now how about whendidyoujoinfriendfeed.com
- Kiran Patchigolla
617 days -- more important though - when was the last time I actively used it (not sure -- is there a similar tool to tell me when I joined FF? :-) )
- Brian Sullivan
775 days johnr99a
- John
710 days "only"
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Scoble effect > digg effect
- Tim McDougall
Jun 2007
- Zee.
I joined twitter on 25 August 2008, 243 days ago: the rest is History
- sofarsoShawn
still haven't and not gonna.
- Andrew C
Joined Twitter 754 days ago
- Michael Kreidler
Or just click on your profile in tweetdeck / many other "clients" -- it will tell your joined date. I joined Fri 07 Mar 2008 23:57.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I make it 279 days if my math is correct.
- Sharron Field
You're on Twitter? :-)
- sofarsoShawn
The website is down at the moment, but I already know the answer. I'll be celebrating my one year Twitter anniversary on May 06.
- Sharon McPherson
845 :-) December 31st 2006 :-)
- Luca Conti
448 which actually suprised me, must have early adopted then just forgot I had the account.
- Richard Tousignant
I've got it going on http://whendidyoujointwitter.appspot.com/ - trying to figure out how to point the domain name to it - can anyone help? (What a noob)
- Neville Ridley-Smith
665 days
- chrisofspades
I joined April 2007. wish I could figure it out # of days...the link above isn't cooperating :( Loving tho that I have been on over 700+ days ;) --- thanks Sharon McPherson for the redirect. It worked - 748 days
- enza (aka iVenus)
408 days
- Chris Noble
728 :) 27 April 2007
- Max Trisolino
Neville, I'm no expert, but you can redirect the domain's index page to http://whendidyoujointwitter.appspot.com in your .htaccess file. Or you can just use a meta redirect.
- Sharon McPherson
I joined twitter 743 days ago I feel so old now :-)
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
752 Days ago. Funny little tool--the app, not me. ;)
- BISQ
Apr 18 2008
- Nicholas James
515 days. Kaspersky is warning of a Trojan downloader on that site.
- Elpie
872. Seems like yesterday.
- Kevin Gamble
667 days - seen lots of whales
- Jack DeWitt Smith
dude, everything you touch, breaks..gettin' a 404 :)
- George Dearing
Ok - forwarding has been set up - site is live again
- Neville Ridley-Smith
775 days for me.
- Chrimmus Tad
I think we need a new verb: The site has been -- robertscobled or scobleized?
- dario
it was pretty hosed before he got to it but it certainly didn't help matters!
- Neville Ridley-Smith
765 days. huh? didn't know it had been so long
- Ted
773.
- MikeAmundsen
I joined twitter on 13 August 2006 - I joined twitter 986 days ago!
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I joined 576 days ago (09/26/2007).
- Joey Gibson
Looks like i've been on twitter for 527 days. I don't remember using it before November of this year.....
- Eric
3-8-2007 (778 days)
- George Dearing
I joined twitter 806 days ago
- Kim Landwehr
774 for me.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
I joined Twitter 803 days ago (February 11th, 2007).
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
775
- Victor Ganata
April 29th 08: "I'm just killing time at work right now. Looking forward to keeping updates on my friends." http://twitter.com/Skizzli...
- David Cook
July 13, 2007 for two accounts, April 10, 2008 for the other.
- Kathy Fitch
19 March 2007 - 768 days ago. Just set up an account for my company and was explaining to my coworkers - when I mentioned I'd been on Twitter for about two years, they were like, wait, I thought it was only a couple of months old! *sigh* Funny that my guesstimation was so close, though!
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
April 8, 2007
- rob
I'd sure like to see a personal Twitter timeline similar to coverflow where I can easily go back and forth through tweeting history and see what I've said over the years...
- Glenn Batuyong
So I'm the oldest twitterer here?
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
I joined twitter on 23 July 2006
- (jeff)isageek
i beat ya by a few days carlos :)
- (jeff)isageek
@jeff, beat me by about 3 weeks ;-(
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
Since September of 2008
- Adam Martin
25 April 2007 crap that's 2 years tomorrow
- Rodzilla
Nifty little site, Robert...774 days for me.
- Ken Kennedy
I joined Twitter 460 days ago. I joined FriendFeed 556 days ago.
- Louis Gray
July 14, 2007 ... 650 days
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224 days ago
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17 November 2007
- BEX
766 days -- 21 March 2007
- xero
800 days...beat Morty by a day :) February 14, 2007 <3 day....
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1yr 1mo ago ... 24 Mar 2008
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524160 minutes.
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563 days ago- 9 October 2007
- metalerik
26 August 2007 - 607 days :) That's pretty good, yeah?
- Michael Forian
THIS IS MY FIRST DAY ON THE INTERNET! :D
- Josh Haley
I joined Twitter 10 days before you, Robert.. November 11, 2006
- Pico Seno
What is Twitter?
- Dominic Jones
I joined twitter 1015 days ago
- Wayne Sutton
only 261 days, just caught the tale end of twitter's more innocent days.
- Mike Elliott
1016 days ago. A day before Wayne!
- Kevin Fox
Wow. Kevin, Wayne, and Dave are cooler than me!
- Robert Scoble
24 October 2006, 914 days. What's your average # of tweets per day. My average is 0.012 :-).
- Gary Burd
Is how many days we've been on Twitter the new status bar to measure up to now that there are million+ following @aplusk? (766 days)
- Peggy Dolane
421 days.
- Sue Radd
yeah, like way back in the olden days... last summer.
- Peggy Dolane
08/29/2008
- John Wright
823
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848 days.
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762 days
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807....7 Feb 2007
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536 days.
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1002 days
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13 April 2007, 743 days. Though wasn't very active (and still aren't)
- Jemm
October 26, 2006, 912 days ago.
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819 days ago
- Rob
twitter 17 November 2007, 525. friendfeed 12 February 2008, 438 days ago
- Adamo Lanna
802 days ago - 13th February, 2007. Though it's only the last year or so that I started paying more attention to it.
- Andy Bold
731 days for me
- Jesse Stay
I joined twitter on 9 September 2007, so 594 days ago.
- Peter Kruit
26 August 2007, or 608 days ago
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less than 1 week.
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I joined Twitter June 18, 2008 - 311 days ago
- Tony C
21 dic 2006
- pm10
4 April 2008 386 days
- Jamie Vidamour
Hah! 1002 days.
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@bdeseattle joined 825 days ago. @pplpwrd aka @infinitelymeta joined 735 days ago.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
67 days :(
- rama mamuaya
777 days!
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I joined twitter 507 days ago
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699 days ago, 27 May 2007
- Majento
750 ish
- Jamie
A late starter, 419 days, joined 2nd March 2008.
- Kol Tregaskes
I've been here for 738 days (April 18th, 2007).
- Brome
2 June 2007 I joined twitter 693 days ago
- Felter Roberto
I've got a pretty silly question....how do you know when you started using Twitter?
- Christian (Simply X)
@Christian: Check out the link on top :)
- Jemm
I joined twitter 268 days ago (July 30, 2008), and i just twitter my 802nd tweet....
- Marina
lol oh, durrrrrr. Oops totally missed that. 57 days? w00t! 02/27/2009
- Christian (Simply X)
I joined twitter 714 days ago, on 12 May 2007
- A.T.
2 days before A.T. 10th May 2007
- nouhad
I joined twitter on 8 April 2009 - http://whendidyoujointwitter.com ? I couldn't resist any longer, @leolaporte kept talking about it.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
821 days ago on Jan 25th, 2007 :)
- embee
I joined twitter on 25 April 2007- happy anniversary to me!!
- Brian Sheehan
910 days. Joined in 27 October 2006.
- Martin Añazco
I joined twitter 153 days ago on 23 November 2008. On the other hand, I've been on FriendFeed for a year and Facebook for 5 years.
- Bora Zivkovic
I joined twitter 309 days ago
- DAL
i joined twitter 43 days ago
- John Wood
Funny I joined Twitter on Feb 21 2006, the day after you.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
July 29, 2008
- Kevin Whalen
778 days (March 9, 2007)
- Kevin Tunis
My first account 13 July, 2006. My most used one, 12 February 2008.
- jcunwired
723 days ago, 03 May 207
- Bill Rawlinson
\o/ I joined twitter on 20 December 2006
- Caers Mane
332 days
- Damond Nollan
772 days - i was invited much earlier but didn't see the value for me (in nyc) since it was all about what silicon valley folks were having for lunch, wait has that changed ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
I joined on March 28th 2007 (759 days ago).
- Daniel Rowley
769. What's next? Slashdot user numbers are now passe. What's the next measurement of geek coolness?
- Andrew Leyden
at least 943 - one account Oct 2006, but I can't find the date for my main one.
- randulo
I joined twitter 223 days ago
- OnuRC
1 December 2006
- John Graham
I joined twitter on 30 November 2008 - http://whendidyoujointwitter.com ?
- Roshan Ramachandran
I joined twitter on 23 January 2007, 823 days ago :)
- CantorJF
303 days on Twitter, geez, what a newbie
- Rick Bucich
769 days ago
- Victor Panlilio
from Nambu
495 im young compared to yall XD
- Zafarali
Joined on 16 March 2007, 771 days ago. (Yes, WDYJT crashed yesterday)
- Red Label
714 days - twitter.com/atveit
- Amund Tveit
244 days on Twitter so far :)
- Frode Stenstrøm
538 days joined on November 4th 2007
- BCK
Wow. I guess I joined the same day as you ;). What were we thinking?!?
- Michael Lehman
695 days plus the days from an old account thats no longer found
- Monique
863 days ago. I joined on 14 december 2006
- Cristian
986 days ago, 13 August 2006
- Sean Oliver
1015 days ago, 16 July 2006
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
886 as well
- Michael Specht
funny! i joined Nov. 20th 2006 as well. :)
- Eddie Codel
788 days ago.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
27 August 2007
- Tony Vota
716 days
- Ryan Dadey
Ok, I'll admit it, I've shamelessly hitched a ride on Robert's coat-tail by embedding the feed from this discussion into a page on my website. http://twitclicks.com/rlrn
- Sharon McPherson
724 days! Joined during MIX07.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I was only slightly exaggerating yesterday. I have been on for 863 days. I joined in December 2006.
- Francine Hardaway
I joined twitter 786 days ago on March 1, 2007.
- Rajiv Doshi
I joined a day after Scoble (November 21, 2006)
- Michael Markman
I beat @techcrunch! But as usual I trail you by a couple of months, Robert. ;)
- Denise Howell
782 days, joined on March 5 2007, wow didn't realize it was that long ago
- Keith - @tsudo
421 days, joined on 1 March 2008 - I joined twitter and FriendFeed on the same day :)
- Susan Beebe
912 days, cant believe I was there before you :-)
- Patphelan
563 days
- Peter Efland
762 days ago on the 27 March 2007
- Mick Stanic
Took me Twanalysis to finally find it .... Sept 12 '07 Late adopter?
- Charlie Anzman
I joined twitter 179 days ago - http://whendidyoujointwitter.com ?
- Geoff Jackson
Robert, check this out : http://whendidyoujoinfriendfeed.com/
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Stormtroper Baby - http://lolfactory.tumblr.com/post...
MicahBear78, atanas, Nick and 5 other people liked this
good stuff
- (jeff)isageek
Law, Order, and a Unicorn - http://72dotsperinch.blogspot.com/search...
Ernie Oporto, Dobromir Hadzhiev, Jesse Hattabaugh and 8 other people liked this
what a combo!
- (jeff)isageek
Liked just for that pic :)
- Roberto Bonini
Ernie Oporto, Jesse Hattabaugh, Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty and 4 other people liked this
He'll transform the nation!
- Martin Bryant
good one martin :)
- (jeff)isageek
Laughed out loud!
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
PostSecret: Sunday Secrets - http://postsecret.blogspot.com/2009...
Lynne d Johnson, *Tiffany Diamond*, EricaJoy and 12 other people liked this
in light of another friendfeed conversation...*dead*
- Jason Toney
from Bookmarklet
Hmmmph. I think a LOT of people want this, which is I'm a very wary of new people. Life is not a movie and I am not your "sassy black sistafriend".
- Admiral Anika
+1000 and *fistbump*, Anika
- Kamilah Gill
2 Please!
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh, Anika. Sadly you are dead on. Oh wait I forgot the sassy neckroll and "Girlfriend!!"
- B. Hatin
LOL @Kaia
- Admiral Anika
Damn, I don't think I qualify.
- EricaJoy
FriendFeed in Nambu on my iPhone
HealingBrush, Keith Barrett, Anand Sharma and 21 other people liked this
it's not too bad eh?
- Zee.
The funny thing is that this post is still "sending..." on my iPhone :) (I think maybe my network is having problems)
- Paul Buchheit
I found Nambu on the iPhone to be sluggish.
- Kevin Whalen
cool interface :) gonna go get it!!
- Susan Beebe
I've tried Nambu, but I uninstalled it after my first attempt. Its UI display so little information, lots of click is driving me mad.
- pastas9
I like it so far
- Ryan Stanley
from Nambu
I have FriendFeed via Nambu on my iPhone too...but since the beta, it tends to crash a bit after roughly ten minutes of use. Perhaps the Nambu crew (and motherfeed developers) need to get an update soon that solves this. Nambu is very good when it's working, even for identi.ca.
- George Hall (Australia)
Yea, Its way too slow. And if you config. more than two Accounts then the Interface gets busy.. See, the new Yahoo!, Inquisitor App in AppStore.. They are way too fast and responsive..
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
Yahoo!, Inquisitor??? Is that one or two apps? Haven't heard of Inquisitor.
- George Hall (Australia)
not bad...
- lemuel
Inquisitor is nice, but it appears to be a search app, not a Friendfeed app.
- Paul Buchheit
from BuddyFeed
Nambu iPhone client isn't bad so far and might be close to good but I am hoping for great
- lemuel
Inside A Google Data Center - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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See those 17 containers on the left? Those are serving requests for the word "sex". Excellent video BTW.
- Yuval Atzmon
I'm new to Mac. What are best apps for PHP web development - text editor, FTP, SSH clients?
Brian Daniel Eisenberg, Glenn Batuyong, Bill Sodeman and 5 other people liked this
TextMate. Transmit. ssh is built right into Terminal thanks to the glory of BSD.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Oh, yeah, welcome to the collective.
- Akiva Moskovitz
There is almost nothing better than TextMate for editing, Transmit for FTP. Mac OS X has ssh command-line already and is fine in a terminal, (try iTerm).
- ·[▪_▪]·
Agree with above: TextMate, Transmit, Terminal.
- Graham English
I would say Filezilla for FTP, best for OS X and Windows.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Terminal and Textmate ... cyberduck is also neat as an FTP/S3 client
- Deepak Singh
I hear Transmit's the best for FTP, but CyberDuck is cheap like free and is bearable now (not so, say a year ago)
- Micah Wittman
I put money down for Textmate and my php happens there. But for some odd reason I'm liking my Javascript in Smultron (free).
- Micah Wittman
Definitely TextMate for editing, particularly web development; SSH is built in - however if you really want filesystem like access have a good look at MacFusion - highly recommended. Also, Finder itself will do FTP, I mainly use that or CyberDuck.
- John Collis
Coda for editing, Transmit for FTP/SFTP, and Terminal (built-in) for SSH.
- Brad Butner
from twhirl
are there any freeware alternatives to textmate?
- flaimo
Textmate seems like a really complete product. But it costs $$$. What are the alternatives?
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
I've used Text Wrangler and it's a pretty powerful text editor. I've now got a copy of BBEdit, but it's overkill for my needs. Also, I'm with Brad — I use Coda and Transmit (although, technically speaking, Coda has a copy of Transmit built right in). I also use skEdit (written by a current Apple employee), which has some very clever tricks that Coda doesn't...
- Wayne Smallman
I use a small app called HyperEdit for quick and dirty php testing. I have Textmate as well but haven't fully utilized it.
- Andrew Leyden
TextMate (Yes, it's worth the license fee!) and Cyberduck (donationware).
- Bill Sodeman
coda | http://www.panic.com/coda/
- fijidaddy
Wow, only one mention of BBEdit, always a must-have for me since its early days. Although I don't code much anymore, I try to keep within a version or so of the current one -- I suppose likely out of nostalgia.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
You could always download eclipse and add the PHP plugins, thats almost a Zend replacement right there. I use that and XAMPP for my Mac php development
- Rod Middleton
I use BBedit, sometimes Coda; I do all my development locally using the built-in Apache server and PHP+mysql. I can do web development w/o being connected to the network, then use CVS or Subversion to check in my changes.
- Mistletoe Glen
Ok, I'll confess. I really do most of my coding in vi.
- Mistletoe Glen
Terminal - ssh and if you must ftp, then ncftp. Forget ftp, learn rsync.
- Brian Watson
I'm guessing "Vimacs" doesn't settle anything http://www.vim.org/scripts...
- Micah Wittman
TextMate for sure if you don't mind putting down some cash. It's worth it. However if you must have free I would maybe say jEdit. SSH and FTP are built-in, as well as subversion, apache, php, ruby, perl, rails.
- Glenn Batuyong
I'm building my own server in the cloud, thanks to Dave Winer: http://www.scripting.com/stories... but right now that will have to wait cause Maryam wants me to come downstairs and stop playing on my computer.
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Are you using Rackspace?
- Jesse Stay
I'm not sure I'd recommend EC2 for beginners, even with a HOWTO. There are much cheaper cloud-based alternatives (like Rackspace's Slicehost offering). "Turning it off when you're not using it" isn't a solution. This isn't 1970.
- Mark Trapp
Jesse: no, for now I'm just following along Dave's podcast.
- Robert Scoble
ReadWriteWeb did the same: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Robert Scoble
After I get it running on Amazon I'll get it running on Mosso. Gotta run, Maryam's getting mad I'm still playing on the computer.
- Robert Scoble
Is s3 mounted as a filesystem on EC2 much faster than s3fs elsewhere? I'm doing rsync with s3fs on a linode server and it's taking all weekend.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: how big is your diff? That doesn't seem right.
- Mark Trapp
Amazon has Windows servers... which Dave uses in his example. Mosso Cloud Servers and Slicehost look like they are Linux-only for now. EDIT: GoGrid has Windows servers as well, which are even easier to bring up than they are at Amazon.
- Karim
I know there is a project that can use EC2 and S3 rattling around my brain, I just haven't been able to find it in there yet.
- Mike Flynn
I've fallen in love with all of amazon web services... hard. I have trouble imaging building scalable projects without it now. My current project uses ec2, s3, cloudfront, elastic ips, elastic block storage, simple queue service and simple db.
- Ted Roden
Karim: Mosso offers a Windows server (http://www.mosso.com/cloud.jsp) but it's a bit more expensive than leaving an EC2 instance running 24/7. It's hell of a lot easier to set up, though.
- Mark Trapp
Great idea Robert. Once you try those, I'm very interested on what I'd get from RackSpace that I wouldn't get from Amazon, or more importantly, what of all those you try out you think is best. I keep coming back to Amazon due to price and flexibility, but I'm always open to new things if they make sense.
- Jesse Stay
Mark, I thought those Mosso Windows offerings were Cloud *Sites* not servers -- i.e. basically a webroot where you get to upload stuff? From what I read, the advantage is that they automagically scale, but since it's not a server of your own, you can't log in as Administrator & install stuff.
- Karim
Ted, what do you do for load balancing on EC2?
- Karim
Karim: and what, exactly, is a beginner non-developer/non-IT/non-sysadmin going to be doing that requires a full server? I don't think people who require full control over the inner workings of a server are the people being targeted, here.
- Mark Trapp
"BOBBY!... TIME FOR DINNER DONCHA KNOW"
- rob friedman
from twhirl
Karim: On http://enjoysthin.gs I'm running one web front end so I don't need a proper load balancer. I split up some of the backend work to separate servers... same with the DB. But the app handles all that. In the past I've used both HAProxy and simple round robin dns.
- Ted Roden
Mark, let me ask Dave Winer why poets need servers and get back to you. lol
- Karim
Ted, thanks. Roll-your-own HAProxy seems to be pretty popular with the EC2 set. Amazon has threatened to come out with a load balacing solution at some point...
- Karim
Karim: they will. Don't get to comfy with any load balancing solution, amazon will come up with something that beats it.
- Ted Roden
Do what 'the boss' says ... or you're doomed (and she's right :)
- Charlie Anzman
I get that a lot from Amanda. Good to know I'm not alone:-)
- Brandon Mendelson
Mark Trapp - Sorry I fell asleep. The diff is less than 10GB. It looks like it might be almost finished now.
- Bruce Lewis
Read the comments. It's a pricy proposition, the more you use it. There are cheaper solutions, no?
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
I've been playing with EC2 for a few months now, including creating my own linux images that weren't (aren't?) included "out of the box". This also gives you the legroom when you're going to mount your S3 buckets for your own files. It's a simple and painless task if you know your way around linux/unix systems...
- Holger Eilhard
RackSpace has more instance types available than EC2. The lower end ones have less memory so they can end up being a lot cheaper. It may be worth checking out depending on your usage.
- Todd Hoff
I just purchased an iMac. This is my fist mac. What standard utilities do you install on a new mac/fresh install?
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Depends on what work you do with your new Mac.
- Rick Powell
Flip4Mac http://tinyurl.com/5jphmn and Perian http://www.perian.org/ to play certain embedded videos.
- Mark Czerniec
You must get Quicksilver and learn to use it...saves tons o' time and frustration.. i also recommend Growl, Onyx, TextWrangler, MPEG Streamclip (video app), GimmeSomeTune (ITunes app for lyrics, etc.) and Skype, just to get youstarted... That will $285.00 please. (HA!)
- Russell Wagner
Quicksilver (app launcher), Adium (instant messaging), twhirl (twitter/friendfeed), Firefox, Remote Desktop (for windows machines), Disk Inventory X (for finding space hogging files), Growl (for notifications)...that's what I have running now anyway ;-)
- Richard Goodwin
from twhirl
OpenOffice, Firefox, TweetDeck and AIR, SlingPlayer, iPhoto
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
I like Vuze better for torrents, and adobe air for air apps (Tweetdeck, GMDesk, FaceDesk, etc.) Whe you get really geeky, download SUN VirtualBox and run Linux distros (Winders if you must) stuff like that. Best stick to basics for a little while. iPhoto comes with the iMac. flip4Mac is great too.
- Russell Wagner
AppTrap. Free. Adds a function to the system that should already be there: When you put an app in the trash, it asks you if you want to delete the associated files as well. http://bit.ly/144Dj
- Rick Powell
errr utilities are already installed, so whatever else you need your iMac for, install away!
- sofarsoShawn
Jiggler
- Micah Wittman
perian is a must if you watch divx files
- Jason Dean
Awesome! I'll check all of those out. Thanks for the comments!
- Beau Liening
MagiCal, AppStop and Xee.
- Bill Sodeman
Perian, Quicksilver, Plex, Growl, Adium, Firefox, Adobe AIR
- Raman Ng
I also use Jumpcut every day (http://jumpcut.sourceforge.net/ - a clipboard copy/paste utility).
- Micah Wittman
Tofu is a small, interesting app for reading documents in eye-friendly columns http://amarsagoo.info/tofu/
- Micah Wittman
Smart reporter, applejack, mainmenu, neooffice, gimp, firefox
- Brian Bufalo
Skitch, Quicksilver, Dropbox, Growl
- Deepak Singh
VLC
- Paul Grav
Caffeine - http://lightheadsw.com/caffein... - Great for when you watch hulu or any long video.
- Jim Williams
Adium (http://adiumx.com/ a multi-services IM client), SuperDuper (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDu... for creating disk image of your internal drive) , Disco (http://discoapp.com layman disc burning tool)
- Vinko
recommended mac apps for switchers: http://www.tinkeringwithin.com/2008...
- muzo
Yellowdog Linux
- James W McGregor
Perian to play media files, Quicksilver to launch apps faster and easier, Textmate as text editor (scripting and stuff like that). Enjoy your new Mac. :)
- Baris Karagoz
Rather old post, but thought you might find some of the suggestions interesting: http://www.thatcanadiangirl.co.uk/blog...
- Vero Pepperrell
Application launcher quicksilver, and coffeine
- Erik Stripparo
from twhirl
Quicksilver is now Google Quick Search Box, Flip4Mac, Perian, Adium, Handbrake, Growl, Twitterific, Skitch, 1Password, boxee, RipIt.app, SuperDuper!, VLC player, Coconut Battery, iStat Pro
- Weldon Dodd
Why do you need to do that? It comes with vim.
- Mistletoe Glen
Don't forget to install a simple image editor like Paintbrush(http://paintbrush.sourceforge.net) and Seashore(http://seashore.sourceforge.net)
- Edmund Tay
1password
- TranceMist
Thanks for all the comments! So far I've installed firefox, quicksilver, boxee, keepass, growl, and adium. I haven't had much time to install anything else yet though. I'm thinking about openoffice next. I also have to install my printer/scanner on there as well.
- Beau Liening
Oh. And I installed kismac.
- Beau Liening
Did you get I-Life? Its a great thing to have!
- orionstarr
Instead of OpenOffice, why not give NeoOffice(http://www.neooffice.org) a try...it is based off OpenOffice and is more Mac-like
- Edmund Tay
I've found that OpenOffice 3.0 for OSX is not yet as stable and robust as NeoOffice.
- TranceMist
I'll have to take a look at neo office.
- Beau Liening
At 1:22:53 of MacBreak Weekly #131 http://twit.tv/mbw131 Leo Laporte mentioned this thread yet neglected to mention Beau Liening http://friendfeed.com/oheresy who started the thread and Rick Powell http://friendfeed.com/homosup... who highlighted AppTrapp. I hate to split hairs, but we all have names and each of us have online personas that could use the mention. If anything, a...
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- Christopher Harley
Great list sofar. Some additions: Chax (http://ksuther.com/chax/), Evernote (http://www.evernote.com), Fluid (http://fluidapp.com/), Cyberduck (http://cyberduck.ch/), Secrets (http://secrets.blacktree.com/), iStat menus (http://islayer.com/apps...).
- Peter van Teeseling
KCNScrew & Serial Box to get any application; pick and choose, they come out on the 1st & 15th
- sofarsoShawn
I am a Quicksilver dissenter, since it used to crash three or four times a day for me. Paid for Launchbar, which also replaces Jumpcut for me. Beta 5 anyway. Launchbar is very powerful, fast and doesn't crash.Plus QS development is very much up in the air. I don't won't to rely on an app which doesn't have the full support of a developer. Which is another reason why I've started buying premium wordpress themes, instead of using free ones. But that's another thread.
- Rick Powell
btw, I am just impressed that I managed to tell Leo about something he didn't know about before. Information is more important than ego.
- Rick Powell
Facebook Getting Serious About Vanity URLs - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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"Facebook is getting wise to something MySpace has known from the start - users love vanity URLs. When you tell someone your MySpace page, you just say myspace.com/[user/brand/band/etc.] (I’m myspace.com/mikearrington). On Facebook it has always been more difficult. My profile isn’t Facebook.com/michaelarrington, it’s facebook.com/profile.php?id=500065899. Not so catchy, and the result is people need to do searches to find you. MySpace vanity URLs are popular for the same reason people like domain names instead of just typing in IP addresses. Facebook’s policy on this is clearly changing, at least for Pages (where bands, celebrities, brands, etc. have their Facebook presence). Facebook has always had a few vanity URLs associated with Pages, like Facebook.com/U2. They made it clear last August, though, that most people couldn’t get them: Unfortunately we are not currently able to approve requests for vanity URLs. The only Pages that presently have vanity URLs are bands and businesses that partnered wit
- Susan Beebe
from Bookmarklet
FriendFeed falters as Twitter explodes - http://siteanalytics.compete.com/friendf...
Philip Lei, Marcia Conner, Moses Kpetigo and 85 other people liked this
You can take Compete's numbers with a grain of salt, of course. But if their trending is accurate, FriendFeed is failing to pace Twitter's explosive growth curve. While Twitter put the gas to the floor in January, growing over 30%, FriendFeed actually went in reverse. Twitter is red; StumbleUpon is green; and FF is blue in this graph.
- Chris Baskind
from Bookmarklet
It's because everyone is mentioning Twitter on TV, news talk radio, etc. but no one takes the time to say a thing about FriendFeed (probably because it's too hard for them to understand). Twitter is like KISS! Keep it simple stupid!
- Michael Forian
Yeah, a little slower here in February. Earlier discussion on this: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Hutch Carpenter
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I already predicted this! http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Michael Forian
No surprise, Twitter has entered the mainstream.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Well, I prefer Quantcast myself which shows essentially the same thing. However, look at the history - if you match Twitter from launch to FriendFeed from launch, they are very similar - with ups and downs and ... if anything it seems FriendFeed might have a slight advantage at this stage.
- AJ Kohn
WoW!
- sofarsoShawn
Ashton Kutcher isn't on Friendfeed yet.
- Rob Haas
If this mattered you would be comparing Twitter to Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
I honestly don't care about keeping up with the Jones. Twitter is still a giant fail whale to me, and always will be. It stinks at having meaningful conversations to boot. Let Twitter have its moment in the sun, people will experience it, go meh, and move on to something more meaningful later. And, if they like meaningless, then please stay at Twitter for heaven's sake.
- Pete Delucchi
Good point AJ. StumbleUpon is in the graph. In Aug 08, they were down, but have gone up since. FriendFeed's gonna be fine.
- Hutch Carpenter
I can understand why. Twitter has been getting a ton of main stream coverage the past month or so. And Friendfeed, after having its burst in January, has been falling off a bit. You can tell that activity is a little lower now and that their aren't as many new people here. And there is still the problem of new people not really being able to break in. I've talked to people who said they tried but it was just too daunting for them.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
@Pete I like Twitter. I think that it does what it is meant to do very well. If you want to have big convos with people use Facebook or your email or something.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Matt, you're right, it does its thing, and it does it well. I just haven't ever been able to get it to work 2-way (or more) with conversations. It's really not that complicated, per se, but more often than not I feel like I'm screaming at a wall.
- Pete Delucchi
I think FF could (or already does?) suffer from the same problem popular traditional forums eventually face - new users don't feel like they belong and it gets harder and harder for newcomers to become members of the well established community. Twitter doesn't really have to worry about this problem, because it really stems from the primary feature that makes FF superior - the conversations.
- Aviv
I think that would be more true Aviv, if there were moderators, and if there were barriers to entry for new users to openly discuss in conversations here. Luckily, everyone gets to have their say, and you basically get to self-moderate with FF features like blocking and hiding. It's actually kind of cool, and I hope it takes on a bigger life soon. If it stays tight-knit, I don't really have a problem with that either, but I would like to see the developers get some bang for their buck at some point.
- Pete Delucchi
Oh, I thought the green line was the number of tweets related to food.
- l0ckergn0me
Pete, well, I think in a way we, the users, act as moderators around here. That's why Scoble will always get a minimum of 50 Likes within minutes of whatever entry he's posting. The barrier of entry for new users is actually huge IMHO, especially when their entries get pushed off the beginning of other peoples' feed rather quickly due to bumps of very popular entries.
- Aviv
Aviv has a point, but lists and rooms here make this a different and interesting environment. Twitter is really simple, so it has low barrier to entry. FF has a learning curve to it.
- Karoli
You're right Aviv, but remember that there's lots of ways to participate around here. People like Michael Arrington or celebrities like Wil Wheaton get more action on their posts than I ever will, even though they hardly if ever comment or participate in the conversation. You don't have to be the guy standing in front of the crowd to have your voice heard though.
- Pete Delucchi
Totally agree with Karoli, FriendFeed has a learning curve. It's bigger then the curve at Twitter.
- ursi
Pete, same can be said about any of the popular web forums out there. You can start a new thread, sure. You may get a reply or two, so there you go, your voice is heard there as well. But within minutes your new thread fades away and can be found on Page 2, then 3, and so on. I think that for new users FF seems more like a giant well-established forum than a place to share stuff with friends.
- Aviv
I agree with what you're saying about the learning curve. My point is that the appearance of FF as some new type of a giant message board is another obstacle contributing to the steep learning curve.
- Aviv
When I started my last job, the boss called the learning curve "drinking through a straw out of a firehose." Starting something new on the internet shouldn't be like starting a job, and shouldn't need an owner's manual of tips & tricks just to get going. That's FriendFeed all over though, and yeah, Aviv, unless that learning curve comes down to next to nothing, new/mainstream users will constantly be dealing with the firehose. I get your point, and it definitely reflects in the numbers above.
- Pete Delucchi
Speaking as someone who's been here for all of 11 days, I haven't found the learning curve to be at all daunting. (Or maybe I'm too much of a dork to know I'm doing it wrong.) This place felt like home from the start. I wasn't even looking for community, I read Thomas Hawk's piece about using it for Flickr feeds. I had Facebook for months before I started really using it. My Twitter account is mostly gathering dust. I don't see them as comparable. They fulfill different needs, suit different personalities.
- Rebecca
Has anyone done a comparison of the rate of features added to each service and rate of funding received? The features I'm talking about include minor things, like FF increasing the number of pages of history you can browse to, and include "negative features" like twitter's removing IM.
- Andy Bakun
And remember, twitter's main competitor is yelling out your window.
- Andy Bakun
Sure, the learning curve isn't insurmountable, but it is a barrier. It's probably the same reason why not everyone has a computer with UNIX as it's OS.
- Victor Ganata
To the average user (the ones who may not know the diff between mac / windows, may not know why you need a firewall, etc. the difference appears to be KISS. I can teach someone to Twitter within 5 mins, it's just like texting with a wee bit extract. On the other hand it takes a lot longer to teach them to get the most from FriendFeed.
- Mark Aitken
Well, it seems to me that FriendFeed has more to offer, so it's not surprising there's more to figure out. Then again, one doesn't have to learn all at once. I'm just picking up tips as I go along, but I found plenty to interest me within the first few minutes of exploration. I do think the Help section could stand improvement. It's quite inadequate and frustrating. I found it much easier to plunge in and try things out and to observe the customs of the locals.
- Rebecca
There are certainly lots of features which make FriendFeed more compelling, and for powerusers on the web it's a great platform, easily my favourite centralised "go to" site. In my opinion, FriendFeed isn't mainstream because you have to put things into the platform (in the form of subscribing to people, finding people). Facebook brings you content to subscribe to which makes mainstream adoptation easier for the average user. Bring content to the users in this way, FriendFeed will rise fast.
- Mark Aitken
Also, I don't fully trust Compete's numbers... I'd want to see a balanced average of the numbers across a few of these types of sites to believe the stats.
- Mark Aitken
It takes just as long to teach someone how to do twitter's _only_ feature, posting something, on Friendfeed. Right at the top it says "Post: Message". Click on that, type in your message, hit the post button. Done.
- Andy Bakun
As a geek, when I first found FriendFeed I saw it helped save me time, I don't have to hit flickr, google reader shared items, picasa, twitter, etc. to see what's happening. It's a great enabler for those of us who need this feature. The average user doesn't need this feature, they have Facebook and their friends aren't tech celebs. Twitter was already leap for these users, the iPhone makes twittering as easy as SMS, but for groups. Friendfeed doesn't have this accessiblity or demand for average users.
- Mark Aitken
Initially suprising given that a few notables are really pushing FF on Twitter, but I think a lot of people are scared of information overload. Also it is only really usefull for those who are already using a reaonable number of other social services (from a contribution perspective).
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Bullshit, friendfeed is gaining quite a bit of momentum.
- Richard A.
Alistair, I don't use that many services, but even I turned up with more than I realized. By the time I added Amazon and YouTube and other stray accounts, I found it very useful to have them aggregated, especially those I don't use often, because I tend to forget about them. If the service wants to reach more people, maybe it needs to market different assets. Social interaction wasn't one of my priorities when I signed on, but FriendFeed turned out to be something I was looking for without knowing it.
- Rebecca
During the recent bushfires in my country, Twitter did serve a valuable role in getting quicker information out than the main news services could. It was fantastic for keeping peopline informed of fire brigade incident summaries etc. However, I wish I'd known more about FriendFeed at the time because it actually would have been more useful. Aggregating various feeds obviously would have...
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- George Hall (Australia)
from Nambu
I am a big Friendfeed fan and user, but I think the Friendfeed default user interface is radically too verbose, and will make it difficult to compete with Twitter for a great deal of social media messaging. The UI needs to be modified. FF users need to have the option of hiding *all* commentary.
- Sean McBride
We're ahead of the curve on FF. Most are just now dipping their toes in social networking with Twitter.
- Ernie Oporto
from Nambu
As someone has probably said, it's not about the number of users; more important thing would be to show how much people are using those services. Also, new Twitter users are quite potential future users for FriendFeed since many of them would be interested of better features to stay on track of what's happening. Anyway, things change and usage of services is constantly growing.
- Daniel Schildt
All this discussion about Friendfeed competing with Twitter is not valid. Friendfeed's issue is competition from Facebook, in the same way that Twitter's issue is competition from Facebook. Facebook is an private/public sharer, aggregator and a conversation engine at the same time whereas FF and Twitter are facets of those functions.
- Ian D. Nock
Friendfeed is competing with Twitter, Facebook, Feedly and Google Reader in various ways. If it doesn't realize this, then so be it. These products are not static genres -- they are rapidly mutating and merging social media tools. The most savvy synthesizer will win the game.
- Sean McBride
Sean - I think that's a good point. There are overlapping use cases. And there are only 24 hours a day. From that perspective, there is a zero sum game here.
- Hutch Carpenter
I've been using Twitter more than FF lately, reversing my own earlier trend. Why? Not sure, but I think perhaps it's easier to dip in and out of Twitter in TweetDeck than keep refreshing my FF tab in Firefox. Also Twitter is quick and dirty. I write more here in FF, as I'm not limited to 140. I can't put a finger on it though.
- Ian May
Ian -- I think I can put my finger on it (for me): on Twitter, if one has fine-tuned one's feed, one experiences a speedy flow of strong electrical pulses. Friendfeed is often a very slow slog. One doesn't always need to read the fine print to get the point. For well-developed social networks on Twitter, a very few words can say a great deal.
- Sean McBride
Man, I love these Compete Site Analytics charts. Data mining at its best. You can see what's going on at a glance.
- Sean McBride
When did Friendfeed start letting you output your stream to twitter? Tumblr just recently added the option to tweet every post as well. Both of these are going to increase Twitter numbers.
- Bjorn Stromberg
Friendfeed is not faltering on this graph... leveling out yes, not faltering. Twitter is growing like crazy - YES!
- Susan Beebe
Genie -- the main point about self-organizing and dynamically reconfigurable social media tools like Twitter and Friendfeed is that you can create or participate in whatever unique social networks you choose. Pay no attention to feeds that you don't find valuable. There are now many valuable feeds on Twitter (as well as a tremendous amount of crap).
- Sean McBride
Some of it is the time. I tend to stop work, and spend a period of time in here. Twitter I dip in and out of all day. But I very much agree with Sean. Why waste time with networks that don't give you something back?
- Ian May
Not sure this matters at all. As long as Friend Feed does not fail, the number of users is not material. I think use FF primarily as a aggregator, FB as a way of keeping in touch with RL friends, and Twitter for everything. Different functions/uses entirely.
- Justin Whitaker
Spammers are now a big problem on Twitter. They should be sent to labor camps. Perhaps I am only half-joking.
- Sean McBride
Spammers should be taken on a flight to the mid-pacific, and thrown out at 37,000 feet. It might keep the sharks away from the beaches in the summer....
- Ian May
If you take a closer look the graph is misleading https://friendfeed.com/e... & it's necessary to keep in mind that FF was launched a year later, though that's not THAT much later. Although a drop is certainly cause for concern.
- sofarsoShawn
My own personal experience over the past few weeks is that as the huge influx of new Twitterers has arrived, i've spent a lot of time interacting with them, and as a consequence, have hardly been active on ff at all. I suspect that'll change soon.
- Iain Baker
Yes. But they address different use cases so I am not sure that this graph is so critical until people know how these type of services are going to get monetize in the long run and which one can fight spam more effectively. Until then, it is going to be difficult to tell who will end up winning. I think.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Twitter has a lower entry barrier. That explains a lot. But when they learn enough and want better conversations, FF might serve them better. Unless something changes at twitter.
- Siddharth Mitra
Twitter's lower barrier to entry is SOLELY the way the page is styled.
- Andy Bakun
Andy -- Friendfeed could easily offer FF users the option to use a Twitter-style interface, but that doesn't seem to be happening. FF users are forced to page through page after page of commentary to find the few posts that most interest them. No skimming. Quite a few new users simply walk away.
- Sean McBride
You can turn the Friendfeed real-time feed (even better in the Firefox sidebar) into something very Twitter-like, only better because it constantly updates.
- LogEx
Come on, Sean. That's obviously false. FF has the ability to "like" something, which keeps it fresh in your feed if there is activity. Twitter has nothing of the sort: twitter forces you to page through page after page of commentary to find the few posts that most interest you and once you do find them, you can't follow the commentary on them.
- Andy Bakun
Andy -- I am switching back and forth between Twitter and Friendfeed home pages right now, and I am consistently finding important stuff with greater speed and ease on Twitter than on Friendfeed, precisely because I am not being forced to slog through a morass of commentary. Perhaps my Twitter feed looks different than yours. There are quite a few very smart people out there who don't have time for commentary -- they're not interested. Friendfeed needs to reach that audience and market.
- Sean McBride
Isn't the commentary the content on FF? For titles only there's GR.
- Todd Hoff
Why not make it easier for those who want to skim basic brief messages and links while skipping over the commentary? That would expand FF's user base, without in any way affecting the experience of those who like FF the way it is.
- Sean McBride
still the question - how many of you would pay for twitter, or pay for friendfeed when the time comes?? i don't think figures matter all that much now, but shows you where things are headed..
- Terry O'Fee
How much do we pay for Google?
- Sean McBride
thats different. google have their ads, and all sorts (speaking of, where are they getting most of their money?) the money isn't going to keep rolling in for these companies. honestly sean, you're on a budget imagine, which one of these would you pay a subscription model for??
- Terry O'Fee
There will always be a reasonable free alternative. If there is not, then I may pay. Bottom line...I ain't paying for web services. Never have before. Why start now? I'd pay for premium services, but I've never seen any premium services I wanted.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Text ads are tolerable on Google. They might be tolerable on Twitter and Friendfeed. Depends on how it's done. The data that these services are collecting might be quite valuable to marketers.
- Sean McBride
i think google can afford to give away some things while getting money for other stuff, they're that big. can you say the same for twitter and friendfeed??
- Terry O'Fee
you wouldnt pay for stuff like this?? hmmm. i always love supporting products i love. i pay for last.fm, flickr, ages back LJ (before mother country bought it). how do you expect them to move forward??
- Terry O'Fee
There's no doubt twitter has had an enormous push recently in the main-stream media, particularly as a result of politicians using twitter. In this regard, being easy to use on a BlackBerry (or iPhone) helps. FF could still take off, but I'd say it's some way off.
- Sean Carmody
I do wonder what sort of impact the ready availability of mobile apps have on the popularity of Twitter (and Facebook) vs other services.
- Victor Ganata
I hate that there's not a good mobile FF that works on my phone.... but I'm not a good choice for a demographic. :D
- Wirehead
Sean, my experience was exactly the opposite when I was using twitter. I got tremendous use out of twitter when it would notify me asynchronously via IM -- that doesn't exist any more (and I don't need yet another app to run on my desktop, so things like tweetdeck are out). I guess it also is different based on what we find important. My day is not composed of solely reloading either...
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- Andy Bakun
I make heavy use of twitter, identi.ca, friendfeed, etc on the web (and via IM to some extent, when twitterspy is working). But the politicians who are generating the media coverage are all tweeting from their BlackBerries.
- Sean Carmody
Watchmen: gritty, nerdy, cool action scenes, long, in depth, the anti super hero movie, visually stimulating, graphic, big naked blue guy.
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Please, I don't want your automated DMs after I follow you. This practice needs to stop. I never click your links, it's just spam.
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I don't understand why @twitter doesn't give the option of disabling DM's completely
- Keith - @tsudo
I wouldn't disable my DM, because I do get some that are legit. I think this is going to be a social persuasion. Maybe we need some folks to start a new convention of unfollowing those who send out these automated DMs. Unfollowing is the worst fear of these automated DM types.
- Hutch Carpenter
Twitter should allow users to opt out of DMs altogether. I tend to unfollows accounts that send auto-DMs, it immediately diminishes their value to me. Too impersonal -- not what I use Twitter for. I know where your website I'd but I'd prefer to receive your updates via Twitter. Imagine if every RSS feed began with a form letter pitch...
- Andy Sternberg
from fftogo
Good analogy on the blog RSS feed subscriptions. And if I've taken the time to look at your tweets and the link on your bio, you don't need to send me anything else. Just keep on tweetin'.
- Hutch Carpenter
I don't know why this pisses people off so much. The furor over the DMs to me is more annoying than the DMs themselves. I just don't like the boring pseudo-sincere "let me know how I can help you" ones. I use one and dig it.
- Steve Isaacs
Spams are everywhere! XD
- Midori
It's annoying in the way spam email is annoying. My Gmail spam filter saves me from dealing with the spam deluge, but does nothing for these spam DMs.
- Hutch Carpenter
i think if your twitter account is a business, it's a perfect opportunity to link a new follower to something useful to them
- Nathan Chase
LD - SocialToo lets you auto DM? I just use it for stats, not that.
- Hutch Carpenter
Nathan - I agree that a link to something useful is fine. Say I tweet about something, and you have a link that is relevant. @ or DM me. But how do you know what's relevant with an automated DM after following?
- Hutch Carpenter
If you have one of the "let me know how..." ones, I will let you know, and if you ignore my @, I'm just going to drop you. To use auto-dm to begin convo = not bad, but to not continue convo = fail
- Michelle Darnell
@Hutch - for instance, if you follow Flickchart (my startup) on Twitter, it auto-follows and responds with. "Thanks for checking us out! Be sure to sign up for our beta to get your invite soon! - http://www.flickchart.com" - does that seem annoying or misplaced?
- Nathan Chase
Agreed. Twitter should review this. It's becoming an epidemic. It diminishes my impression of someone immediately.
- Seamus Condron
There is a use for it in places, but the issue is like anything else once spammers get ahold of something it destroys it for everyone. I wouldn't opt to disable DMs because I sometimes reply by DM if I get behind in getting back to people so I don't flood timeline with chatter
- BCK
Nathan - that seems OK. I mean, I'm following a company (Flickchart), so I'd be interested in getting a beta. But there are a lot of marketing types and life coaches who fire these things off. Often after they've followed me and I follow back. Wasn't expecting to get spammed in that transaction.
- Hutch Carpenter
I actually don't need DMs at all. If someone wants to contact me privately they can follow the link to my website and contact me through it. It seems that it would be very easy for Twitter to add a "Disable DMs feature."
- Keith - @tsudo
SocialToo can help you block many automatic DMs. http://www.socialtoo.com
- Louis Gray
Louis: You mean if I join SocialToo I can tell it to not send me auto DMs from other SocialToo users, or is there something more sophisticated?
- Ken Sheppardson
I use an auto DM to send silly phrases to people when they follow me. It's the "let's tweet soon" ones that grate my cheese.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Ken, it will block DMs from SocialToo users and TweetLater users, for starters.
- Louis Gray
What is the biggest complaint about DM's? Is it the links? Number of DM's you get a day? I use an automated DM to aid in being cordial. I got the following DM this morning and thought it was a good one, "Checked out your profile and you are an amazing person! Keep it up!"
- Damond Nollan
I had Auto DM's setup as a way of saying Thanks for following ...Ive heard at Podcamp Toronto that many people dont like them .. so OFF they go ... no MORE Auto DM's
- johnpiercy
I didn't even know you could setup auto-DMs...awww and here I was so happy everytime someone wrote to me ;)
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
from twhirl
I can't stand those who send a DM to invite me to become "friends" on Facebook, I've only known of your existence for a whole minute and are we supposed to be "friends"? Mind you, I received a message from someone on Diigo who is looking for a husband and I thought it was a social bookmarking site.
- M F
What if it's just a simple "thanks for following me" message and not a link or sales pitch?
- Mattb4rd
@Matt, I hate those "thanks for following me" messages just as much as the automatic sales pitches. If someone wants to "thank" me for following them, then follow me back. Or, if that person followed me first, there's no need to do anything.
- Joey Gibson
SocialToo is awesome. Also, I've learned to ignore spam DMs the same way I can ignore spam emails. With that said SocialToo makes it easy to reduce the number of them greatly.
- Bwana ☠
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- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Of course. Anyone not interested in sports finds that issue intriguing. I mean, it is very general interest.
- Alex Wilhelm (FF BLOWS)
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