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What Do You Call a Carbonated Soft Drink? [US regional differences; enlarge map] - http://bigshottexas.blogspot.com/2009...

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I have seen this before and find it fascinating especially the parts of the country where it's referred to as a Coke. What happens if you want a Pepsi or a Sprite? - Kenton

Heh, good question, Kenton - Tyson Key

It's always called a 'Coke' regardless of what the beverage actually is. At least that's how it is/was with my country Southern relatives. - Derrick

But Derrick what I don't get is if you are in a restaurant that serves many different things, how would you order? I can see it if you go to someone's house and they say what do you want and you say Coke, you get what they have, but the restaurant part confuses me. - Kenton

Strange but true: I checked http://popvssoda.com as part of my job interview preparations before taking this job in Memphis back in 2005. - Daniel J. Pritchett

the same thing that happens when you call facial tissues Kleenex but you refer to a product other than Kleenex. it's not terribly complicated :). i call it soda-pop, which may be due to an unhealthy exposure to the Outsiders as a child. @Kenton in an environment where it's Coke, you would likely be asked what type in that situation, just as you would if you said you'd like a soda-pop and there was more than one type available. - jocoda

Kenton, they'd say they wanted a Coke, then the waiter/waitress would say what kind, then they'd say root beer, 7Up, whatever afterwards. I always just asked for iced tea. - Derrick

LOL Derrick, that sounds like the safe thing to do. - Kenton

I always say "soda" in hopes of avoiding the "you asked for Coke but all we have is Pepsi, is Pepsi OK?" question because I am happy drinking whichever. They always ask though, so I guess I need a new gambit. Worse, my parents like to pull out the old "were you raised by Yankees?!" when I say "soda" in their presence. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Anyone know what an "other" might be? - Frank Senseney

Frank: soft drink, fizzy, and cola come to mind. - Mark Trapp

Restaurants work the same way here, at least in Texas. The waitress takes your drink order, and you tell her what you want. No one here says "coke" generically, to a waitress. If the waitress asks me what I want to drink and I want Dr. Pepper, I say, "Dr. Pepper." However, in casual conversation, "coke" means soft drink here and when someone wants a soft drink, we say "I want a coke." - Trish R

I WANT A LITER OF COLA: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Daniel J. Pritchett

Fizzy lifting drinks! - Yolanda

I think I say "soda." It's hard to say, because I generally call my beverage "DVC" (The right initials never stuck in my head when I switched from Diet Vanilla Coke to Vanilla Coke Zero, besides, VCZ is not as cool to say). I rarely ever use a generic term. My country-deepsouthern relatives say "pop." - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

Why are people using the terms "country" and "southern" as meaning the same thing? - Trish R

Here in Australia they are usually called soft drinks or fizzy drinks, as opposed to beer which if often called "piss". "Let's have a piss-up, who's going to get the piss?" Classy eh? - jjprojects

The widespread emergence of using a specific brand of soda to refer to all types when many different types are vastly different from each other puzzles me. You can compare it to Xerox, but on the other hand you get the same result from a Xerox copy machine and a Lexmark copy machine while there's a drastic difference between Sprite, Coke, Dr. Pepper, et al. Reading the above comments I see how it's used, but how it's used seems like a waste of time to me. - Tom Harrison

Pop is Michigan - bcultral

Pop. When I lived in Georgia it was soda. - Fulaan, inna Hebel

The blog you cite is for invited readers only. - John P

"Tonic" is one of the "others" in Massachusetts. - John P

Thomas Hawk

Stock Photo For Sale - You Took the Silver, You Took the Gold by Thomas Hawk - ClusterShot - http://www.clustershot.com/thomash...

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Nice. Just sold my first photo (above) on Clustershot. I sold a license for $300 and get to keep $264. Gotta love the payout percentage to the photographer in selling work on Clustershot! - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

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Clusterstock was started by silverorange. Daniel Burka from digg is one of the investors. The idea is to let photographers set the price for their work and then give them most of the proceeds of the sale. Clusterstock pays out 88% directly to photographers vs. Getty/Flickr's 20% payouts. I really hope that they succeed in gaining attention with their catalog. You can link your flickr photos directly to clusterstock to import them and sell them. - Thomas Hawk

I still think the name is a disaster that's gonna hold them back... but congrats, Thomas! - Stephen Mack

Thomas - I thought you might be interested to know that this sale was generated by a Google search refer for the term ""stock photography Noe Valley". Oh, and it's ClusterShot not ClusterStock :) - Dan James

ahhh, sorry dan, clustershot, clustershot. Why can't I remember that. Good to see that you guys are indexing well on Google Dan. - Thomas Hawk

No worries. You should get pro-account with all of that money! http://www.clustershot.com/help... - Dan James

Fascinating, I'm signing up today. Thanks for sharing Thomas. ^^ - David C. Cooper

will definitely check out the Pro account Dan. Seems like a good deal for $20. - Thomas Hawk

Clustershot is great. Go get it. - Håkan Dahlström

What kind of license does the buyer have to the photos they purchase? - Tom Harrison

Nevermind, I looked around and got my answer. - Tom Harrison

I like the way you've included the DMU tags too. Unsurprisingly, there are more of these http://www.clustershot.com/tag... than these http://www.clustershot.com/tag... - James Myatt

Wow, nice. Never heard of them until this... - Anthony Citrano

nice - ncg

Mathew™ one of a kind

My http://www.mathewballard.com redesign has been finished and is up for the world to see! I would great appreciate it if you would take time to check it out and leave some feedback, both positive and negative.

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i would suggest removing that iframe. ;-) - AJ Batac

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There is no iFrame. Do you mean the content background? - Mathew™ one of a kind

I think he is referring to the div holding your main content, which uses scrollbars to handle overflow. It appears to be a frame (but is not). - Tom Harrison

Also, check IE6 (yes, I know. IE.) - AJ Batac

I hate IE6. Can I even DL IE6 anymore? - Mathew™ one of a kind

blame Drews Cancer? - AJ Batac

I'll be honest. If you are still viewing my site on IE6 I don't want to work for you. IE7 or higher, Firefox, Chrome or Safari please...oh and Opera too I guess. - Mathew™ one of a kind

btw, it's ok to hate IE6. But don't forget your audience. Trash to you, gold to them. ;) - AJ Batac

IE6 is still fairly widely used, IMO. I know my former employer still doesn't allow any other browser except IE6. And it's a major business (10,000+ employees). - Rochelle

The trick is to catch older browsers, at request-time if possible, in client-side scripting if no other way. Redirect them to a page that exhorts them to upgrade, but sets a cookie that lets them visit the site normally if they don't want to. But warn them of the suck they'll get for using a such a shit-ass browser. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

I just don't understand how you can't update to IE7 at least on accident. - Mathew™ one of a kind

If a lot of sites stop working with IE6, businesses will pretty much be forced to upgrade whether they want to or not. Peer pressure. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

Yea, I do have a script that I keep meaning to implement that will prompt them to upgrade from IE6. - Mathew™ one of a kind

So, any other feedback about my site? - Mathew™ one of a kind

At my former employer, we couldn't upgrade to IE7, even on accident, because the computer required admin rights to do that and only IT staff had admin rights. - Rochelle

And yet no one in IT upgraded the computers to IE7? That is what I Just don't understand. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Mathew, the IT people said anything above IE6 was "a security risk". They also had no idea what .docx was... Not exactly highly educated individuals. They're also still using Office 2000 for the same "security" reason. - Rochelle

http://friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - AJ Batac

Yea, that is ridiculous. And if you are going to use that argument you should realize that IE6 is a security risk as well. Every browser pretty has some security flaw at one time or another. - Mathew™ one of a kind

I love how this thread went from me asking about my site to me ranting about IE6. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Is it supposed to look like your business card? Having seen your card it feels to me as if that's what you're shooting for with the use of the scroll bar. I like the idea, just wish the content sort of fit the space. Since it doesn't I'd prefer to not see the scroll bar and just let the content take up as much space as it needs. - ♥patricia♥

Heh, yeah. I'm just trying to point out that everyone using IE6 isn't necessarily doing it by choice. - Rochelle

Mat... Adobe's new BrowserLab server may help you in seeing how your design looks in IE6 without having to install it: http://bit.ly/OM8IZ - .LAG liked that

Thanks, I'll check that out! - Mathew™ one of a kind

@pea No, and my business card isn't going to look like that anymore. Since then I have changed a lot of things. - Mathew™ one of a kind

@LAG Doesn't look like I'll get to use it. - Mathew™ one of a kind

test your site in different browsers http://browsershots.org/ - Alfredo

Thanks, now that I can use. - Mathew™ one of a kind

@Alfredo It keeps giving me this error, "cannot read www.mathewballard.com/robots.txt.". - Mathew™ one of a kind

your web server has a robots.txt file and it's not letting it do it's thing. i can't help you there buddy. i would try a different service because it might take you a while figuring out what caused that. - Alfredo

try this one http://ipinfo.info/netrend... - Alfredo

To me, the buttons look like something you downloaded from a free web buttons site. Not sure why but I think it's the big borders and the speckled background. - Kenton

Nice design. I'm in the middle of doing a re-design myself...... - Roberto Bonini

@Kenton I can assure I made those myself. - Mathew™ one of a kind

You missed a t in matthew. :p - Rich

Just got some great feedback over the phone about what wrote up in my about section there. If anyone has the time would you give it a read and tell me what you think about it. In all honesty that is actually the hardest part of all this, writing up that section. - Mathew™ one of a kind

@Mathew I wasn't accusing you of stealing them, just that that's what I see when I look at them. - Kenton

Oh I know. I just wanted to make sure I said that they were my creations. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Well you asked for it: I think the drop shadow around the frame and the rock/metallic buttons are old, certainly for someone presenting themselves as a graphic designer. Especially because there´s yet another font used in the button captions. Maybe also use a lighter background like your business card (which it looks like you´re emulating) because the gray, grayish green and the bg... more... - Thomas Bøhm

Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Cycles, BIKES, London Cycling

Who rides a bicycle? What type of bike do you ride and where do you cycle? To work, for pleasure, what's your favourite places?

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I have a Giant XTC mountain bike which has been used for both work and pleasure. I rode to work when living in Berkshire which was virtually all along a canal. I used to get out every weekend morning too to a ride around town but not done much since moving to Kent. - Kol Tregaskes

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I ride a Charge Duster. I've been a bit busy this year, hardly been out at all this year. i think next week I'll risk life and limb on the roads and cycle to work. - Ho

Kol, depending where in kent you are, there are nice rides around. even if you have to hop over to Surrey. - Ho

I do. Trek Soho Urban 3. Love it, when it's not being stolen (or run over with me on it.) mostly around Venice / Santa Monica / Marina Del Rey area... - Anthony Citrano from BuddyFeed

I have a red bike that's a hand me down from my mom. :) I'm not a bike fanatic, obviously, but I like to commute when it's not raining, run errands, and ride for fun. - Elizabeth

I have a Rodriguez U2 (see http://www.rodcycle.com/) that I ride to work every day, all year round, and on errands, and for some recreational rides as well. With Schwalbe Marathon Supremes, I can handle the road, gravel trails, and even hard-packed dirt trails. - Tommy Williams

Ho, more details please? :-) I'm on the Kent/Surrey border. - Kol Tregaskes

I have a Giant Defy road bike. I use it for pleasure. I am actually doing a ride this Sunday, and then a century ride on June 14th. My favorite place is this trail around here that is called the WO&D trail. It use to be train tracks that they turned into a trail. - Shevonne

I ride to school and back every day. It's about a four minute trek. The route is rather idyllic: nice houses, cool breeze, and plenty of shade from trees. - Carlton Prest

My wife and I have these (http://radio.weblogs.com/0127028...) -- so called "comfort bikes" - we regularly do 60km per week during the summer on urban (Toronto) bike trails and rail trails. Last year we also biked the Niagara Circle (~150km) and this year will do the "P'tit Train du Nord" trail in Quebec. - Brian Sullivan

My wife and I have Specialized comfort bikes. Just take it around our neighborhood and park trails every now and again. - ronin

Electra Townie 21. Perfect city cruiser. - Christopher Harley

Trek Navigator 3.0 (http://www.trekbikes.com/women...). It's a grandma bike, and is as slow as molasses, but I like it. I've added a basket to the front, a rack to the rear, and front/rear fenders. I use it to run errands and to ride to work when the weather's good. Favourite places to ride are the dikes in Richmond and Maple Ridge, BC. The flatter the better. - cecily

I just replaced my 20 yr old mongoose with a Trek 3900.... I love it. I live biking distance from Devil's Gulch and other sweet trails, even a nice paved 11 mile loop trail along the Columbia River. My town loves bikers. - suzanne

I have a Fuji Nevada 3.5... which is really just the Fuji Police bike with the "POLICE" lettering covered up with a sticker. I bike to work and ride all over the silicon valley area for fun, starting to average over 100 miles per week. - Wirehead

Marin Pioneer Trail (2007), used mainly for leisure and errands around the home town. At the time it was the only bike I could find in stock anywhere that had a large enough frame, and I seriously love it. *Might* be picking up the '09 version later this year and then I can have this current one locked up at the station in London and use it to do the final leg to work each day. - Andy Bold

Dahon Speed D7 folding bike. I ride it to work. about 3 miles each way. - John Wang

Do any of you take part in any events or tournaments? - Kol Tregaskes

Not me -- I am generally anti-social (at least when it comes to lots of people). - Brian Sullivan

It's a skateboard all the way for me - 2 wheels bad, 4 (urethane) wheels good. - Iain Baker

I have a Raleigh road bike that I use for running errands around the neighborhood. - Tom Harrison

2 years ago, I did 50 mile Tour de Tendring, in preparation for a charity bike ride from Colchester to Aylesbury (100 miles). I would like to do a 12 or 24 hour endurance mtb ride one day, but getting a group together is a bit tough. - Ho

lane hartwell

Need to find inexpensive housing for fall/winter around New York City for an internship I am doing there. Never even been there! need help!

May 29 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

There are parts of Queens, Brooklyn and New Jersey that are close to Manhattan but are safe and affordable. - Tom Harrison

Rochelle to Rochelle's feed, DSLR, Photography United

Jeffrey Friedl’s Blog » Jeffrey’s “Export to Flickr” Lightroom Plugin - http://regex.info/blog...

May 27 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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Does anyone use this plugin? Any suggestions for other Lightroom-to-Flickr tools or plugins? - Rochelle from Bookmarklet

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I used the Flickr exporter that came as a developer example for a while, until I stopped using Flickr. - Brian Johns

I use it and like it just fine. One downside for me is that I have to do photos 1 at a time because I want to give them real names before uploading, and prior to export they are just default named .dngs. One feature I wish it had was to some how tag photos that is uploads so I could easily see in my catalog which pictures have or have not been uploaded to Flickr. - Andy Roth

I use it all the time. It does the job. I don't mind the naming issue Andy mentioned - I just rename them after I upload. - cecily

I use it "ALL" the time, and you "CAN" batch upload pictures with unique names and unique tags. The plug-in is very rich in customizing features just click through some of the options. The only negative in my opinion is the lag time it takes to make contact with flickr, otherwise a priceless tool for frequent Lightroom/Flickr users. - Vox

Andy Roth: Flickr should read your photo's names if you enter them into the "Title" metadata field under "Library" view, no? - Tom Harrison

Give your picture a name in the Title field, a description can be added in the caption field, add your tags. Export - under File naming keep file name selected. Under Meta Data Management choose Basic Title and Basic Caption. You can also add a "unique" tag there as well good luck. - Vox

Another satisfied user here - Mel Buckpitt

Thanks for the tips. I'll check it out. - Andy Roth

I use it and it works fine for me - Michael

Stephanie Booth

IM - This is a no-brainer. Anyone that’s telecommuting should be “always-on” with their IM client, but likewise, the party you’re telecommuting with should also have their IM on whenever they’re at their desk. This is basically just a replacement for turning around and talking to someone while at the office. If someone’s not at their desk, you... - http://steph.tumblr.com/post...

May 27 from Tumblr - Comment - Like - Share

If one is willing to do this, respecting the "Away" status is important. Receiving an IM in the middle of doing work is an incredibly costly distraction. - Tom Harrison

Muhammad Saleem

Deny This, Last.fm - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...

May 22 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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I stopped using last.fm after the original story broke. Even after the denials I never went back. Sounds like that was the right choice. - Tom Harrison

Not having anything to hide doesn't mean you shouldn't stand up for your right to privacy. - Tom Harrison

Justin Korn

Life is Simple - http://blog.justinkorn.com/index...

May 22 from Justin Korn [dot] com - Comment - Like - Share

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That's beautiful, Justin. - Captain Bubbles

Thanks Anika! :) - Justin Korn from IM

Fantastic. - Tom Harrison

Muhammad Saleem

10 Worst U.S. Cities to Raise a Family - http://www.qualityhealth.com/childre...

May 22 from Digg - Comment - Like - Share

What are the graduation rates based on? Public school? New York City has many fine private schools with near 100% graduation/college attendance rates. - Tom Harrison

Eric P to Eric's feed, US Politics

Alan Grayson to introduce Paid Vacation Act - http://www.politico.com/news...

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Rep. Alan Grayson was standing in the middle of Disney World when it hit him: What Americans really need is a week of paid vacation. So on Thursday, the Florida Democrat will introduce the Paid Vacation Act — legislation that would be the first to make paid vacation time a requirement under federal law. The bill would require companies with more than 100 employees to offer a week of paid vacation for both full-time and part-time employees after they’ve put in a year on the job. Three years after the effective date of the law, those same companies would be required to provide two weeks of paid vacation, and companies with 50 or more employees would have to provide one week. The idea: More vacation will stimulate the economy through fewer sick days, better productivity and happier employees. - Eric P from Bookmarklet

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Why did it take so long for the bulb to go on in America ? "Under Part III, employees are entitled to two weeks of vacation with pay for every year of employment. After six consecutive years of service, they are entitled to three weeks of paid vacation per year. The amount of vacation pay is 4% of wages earned during the year, increasing to 6% of yearly wages after six consecutive years of employment." http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng... - Peter Dawson

I feel so sorry for you guys when I see even very senior engineers with 2 weeks holidays a year, some of which is forced fixed to some days when they close the plant. Ridiculous. Of course people will end up spending half their day on friendfeed with so little holiday - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

IMHO, this is a fact of life that doesn't get nearly enough attention - Americans have less leisure time than any other industrialized nation. Even the Japanese work less than we do. - Eric P

Happier employees do better work. We need more vacation time for the same reason that I produce better results when I get a good night's sleep and wake up early rather than coding until dawn. - Tom Harrison

Wow, I had no idea there wasn't this kind of legislation in the US. No wonder Adam didn't win Idol, all those "middle-Americans" need a vacation... - Kenton

Mike Wills

What's another good computer parts store online? TigerDirect and ???

May 20 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

NewEgg.com - Tom Harrison

Thomas Hawk

I need to buy another hard drive for one of my Drobos. $95 for a 1TB Seagate drive seems like a decent deal: http://www.amazon.com/Seagate... Anyone think I ought to buy something else instead?

May 19 - Comment - Like - Share

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I need one, too. and I guess the 1TB are still the best choice. 1.5TB is still overpriced. - meckimac

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The Western Digital Green line is pretty good too and about the same price. http://www.amazon.com/Western... - Alex Scoble

I am a HUGE fan of the WD green drives. I have 3 of their 750s and they are fast, quiet and cool. I am happy to pay a little more for them. - matthew john ernisse

Although in this case, they are $5 cheaper. :) - Alex Scoble

what about that one: http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi... - meckimac

I've always been pretty happy with Seagate. They seem to be more reliable than other drives that I've tried. All things being equal or close to equal I typically buy Seagate. Plus they sponsored Scobleizer for a long time and I liked that as well. I've never bought a 1.5 for the Drobo. Always 750GB or 1TBs. 1TB seems to be the sweet spot for pricing right now unless I'm missing something. Anyone feel strongly that Western Digital or Hitachi are better than Seagate? - Thomas Hawk

Not strongly, no Thomas, but WD is what I have in my system and my 250GB WD drive has been running constantly for about 4 years now without any problems. My other drive is the one I linked to. - Alex Scoble

I have 3 Hitachi 750Gb drives. They seem to be pretty good. A bit noisy ( specially at defrag) - Roberto Bonini

Seagate = crap; go with Western Digital instead. - tabbr

Why do you say that tabbr. I've probably got 30 of them or so and I've been really happy with all of them. I think I've only had two of them fail and one was within 1 year and Seagate replaced it. - Thomas Hawk

I have 2x 1TB Seagate Barracuda drives in my Mac Pro, no complaints. I recently put 2x 1 TB WD Green in my Home Theater PC and no problems there either. The WD Green is currently $89.99 on NewEgg. - Tom Harrison

Western Digital for me, but it's a personal choice. Go for what works for you. - Peter Kruit

I have no recent Seagate experience, however I am still a little sketched out by Hitachi -- they inherited the IBM Deskstar drives a few years back which had some horrible reliability issues. That being said my Lenovo has a Hitachi SATA laptop drive and seems to work ok. I can't stand Maxtor and they are on my DO NOT BUY list due to their failure rate. They replaced all the drives under... more... - matthew john ernisse

I've had problems in the past with Maxtors as well. But I wonder if how they make their drives has changed since Seagate bought them. I haven't bought Maxtor in years. I just went with the Seagate drive. Thank to everyone for their input on hard drives. - Thomas Hawk

I bought a 1.5TB a couple months ago. Think I paid around 9 cents/GB. Need to buy another. - Matt

Historically, I've had the best luck with WD. Seagate is a close second... but Maxtor and Hitachi are no-buys for me. - Roger Benningfield

http://slickdeals.net/permade... $84 for WD green just popped into my Google Reader - Benjamin Golub

I'm looking at getting a drobo -- are you happy with it? - Paul

I really like my Drobo, but the DroboShare sucks ass. With one connected user on a low-traffic GigE connection it's slothlike at connecting and initiating transfers, and pretty slow once things get going as well. - Kevin Fox

Another vote for the WD green drives...they are very quiet. - Ryan Kaisoglus

woah, 100 WD's in drobos? at 4 drives a Drobo that's 25 Drobos. Crazy. And I thought I had a lot of Drobos with four. What in the world are you storing on all those things? - Thomas Hawk

I got a 1.5 tb on sale at Fry's for close to the same price - paul terry walhus

Just wondering. Is a Drobo worth getting? - Peter Kruit

Peter, personally I think replication of primary storage is really important. Drive failure is probably the number one way people lose data and replicating that data across 4 drives helps protect you against drive failure. It doesn't protect you against fire or theft, but it's a good start for storing bits if you don't feel that you can lose them. The drobo is an easy to use consumer product that does this today. I can't imagine not using one myself. - Thomas Hawk

While I don't have a Drobo, I've had hardware RAID for my primary storage for the last 7 years or so and in that time have survived 3 or 4 hard drive failures. As such I cannot throw enough support behind Thomas' assertion that data replication for primary storage is important. Drobo has a really good reputation and some extremely smart people I know have them. - matthew john ernisse

Have you checked out the the LaCie hard drives? They feature 1 or 2 TB, but I'm not sure about availability stateside, though they're really popular in Canada - sofarsoShawn

I bought 3 LaCies, years ago. Every single one of them failed very shortly after buying them. I think I wrote a blog post entitled LaCie drives are crap, crap, crap a few years back. They had other problems besides just drive failure as well. Like the drive would not be recognized by the computer and the only way to get it to show up again was to power it down unplug both the USB and power cables and reconnect them in an exact specific order. Super annoying. - Thomas Hawk

based on this thread at least it seems like Western Digital has the best reputation followed by Seagates. - Thomas Hawk

I agree but they're soooooo much improved now, check em out there's no longer an internal fan amongst other improvements plus they're cross-platform data storage exchange. But most externals suffered from the same problems back then - sofarsoShawn

I just had a LaCie 1 TB fail - about 2 weeks out of warranty. Turned out it wasn't the drive (which was fine, fortunately) - it was the power supply. Appeared to be working fine, lights on, etc - just didn't have enough juice to actually start the disks! New power supply ($25) solved it. I stumbled across this tip about the power supply while doing some searches on LaCie - and it worked for me! But, that's the last LaCie product I'll ever buy. - Scott Loftesness

K sounds like your LaCie's a Fail, I stand corrected though I can concur I've only heard WIN about WDs - sofarsoShawn

For data duplication and versatility, I built a simple Windows Home Server. Used a spare PC, bought the software for $99, and voila, media sharing across the network and to the XBox, full computer back-up with easy restore, and data duplication across multiple drives. It's a nice alternative to a Drobo-type setup. - Robert Kenney

I currently have 3 RAID5 sets (900GB, 1TB and 4TB). I was looking into eSATA enclosures but the Drobo looks like a good alternative. - Peter Kruit

Robert and Peter, those both sound like good setups as well. It think the appeal with the Drobo is though that it is so simple. It's just plug and play. Vs. more complicated set ups of building things yourself. If I had the inclination I might play around with those solutions as well. - Thomas Hawk

What do you folks do for off-site backups? I have a remote mirror I keep up to date with Unison, but RAW files are too much to upload, so I just keep a couple spare copies on external drives, updated manually every now and then. My primary storage is just the laptop's internal drive. I'm not worried about drive failure, because everything is backed up. Do you guys just have too much to fit on a single drive? - Seth

Seth, I need to do a better job on offsite backup. At present I've got a fair chunk of my images (especially my most sentimental valued family photos) on hard drives with my parents and brother. Additionally I upload full sized images to both Flickr and Zooomr, so a lot are theoretically there as well. I haven't used any cloud storage options yet because they simply are too expensive. - Thomas Hawk

Seagate has always been my drive choice due to their 5 year warranties in the past. Thomas, look into Crashplan for offsite backup. Can back-up both to their own service as well as to your friends and family computers automatically. - Kevin Kuphal

Go for whatever works for you. That said I have a mix of Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi and Samsung drives. But I just ordered some 1TB Caviar Blacks from NewEgg for $95 a piece. I also grabbed some 640GB Cavier Blacks for $70. See here: http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail... We'll see how it turns out. I've seen my share of failed drives from every manufacturers... that's how mechanical goes... :) - Dr. Apps from twhirl

I also grabbed one of these (8 bay Sata enclosure): http://www.newegg.com/Product... for $270 free shipping with promo code EMCLSMS48. The WD 1TB Cavier Black promo code is EMCLSMR23 and the 640GB promo code is EMCLSMR24. Good luck in your decision making. And yes, Cavier Blacks are 5 year warranty. - Dr. Apps from twhirl

Robert Scoble

Here's what I'm up to in New York. Sorry, if you are on Twitter I find friendfeed a far better place to TALK with you. Talk about NY:

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Today I'm working on my talk for Kleiner Perkins CIO Summit. Gotta give a talk at about 3 pm today. - Robert Scoble

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After that I'll be on KSCO Radio at about 6 p.m. (Eastern Time). - Robert Scoble

I LOVE NY. What do you have planned outside of work? :) - Daynah

I would love to do a friendfeed meet up after that, say at 7:15. Anyone want to do one? - Robert Scoble

On Thursday I have a stack of meetings. 8 a.m. with Fred Wilson. 9:30 a.m. with Allen Stern. - Robert Scoble

I would but I'm in CA. :) But I'll see you at Wordcamp SF? :) - Daynah

Daynah: actually I will be on an aircraft carrier then. I'm very bummed about missing that. - Robert Scoble

But when Guy Kawasaki gets you a tour of an aircraft carrier that's doing exercises and he also has Steve Wozniak along, you go. ;-) - Robert Scoble

Are you going to broadcast your talk on Kyte? Hope I can check out the radio interview too - Stephen Pickering

Stephen: I doubt it. The talk is a very private invite only thing with CIO's from the world's largest companies. I'll try, though. - Robert Scoble

This is totally off the wall... But while you are in NY can you ask a designer to offer a new logo for friendfeed? - Dave

Anyway, would love to do a friendfeed meetup on Wednesday or Thursday evenings. Anyone else interested? - Robert Scoble

i just got back from NYC to be on cnet.com! I had such a blast! Can't wait to go back! Wish I knew you were gonna be up there. I probably could have stuck around. - LizMoney

Dave: I like the friendfeed logo. Funny, though, we're doing a logo for building43 and it's really hard to come up with something everyone loves. - Robert Scoble

Wow, the a geeky aircraft tour sounds fun too! Maybe you can stop by the Wordcamp Anniversary party at night on the Pier 38. - Daynah

Daynah: the aircraft carrier is 145 miles out to see off the coast of San Diego, so I won't be in SF that weekend. Sigh. - Robert Scoble

Liz: sorry we missed each other. - Robert Scoble

My Mom's in town visiting from NY...and seriously, Robert, like every 5 seconds she keeps telling me how much I'd love it up there, based on the music and websites and social media I'm into. What would you say? Is it just a sweet a place for geeks as San Fran? (I'm in Colorado though) lol - Carlton Hackett

Oh Robert, you'll be in my area, when I heading up to yours. :) - Daynah

I'm waiting for you to get tired, hungry, need to pee etc. to hear you say -- "Talk amongst yourselves." You are after all in NY - Kim Feraday

Robert, do you ever make it up to Boston at all? I noticed some folks from Rackspace are at MIT this week, was wondering if you ever get a chance to make it up this way (or think you could this summer/later this year)? - Sam Houston

Sam: once in a while. I don't have current plans to go to Boston, but since MIT is there and lots of interesting things are going on in Boston, would love to come again. - Robert Scoble

> Carlton: New York is an awesome city, but for geeks? I still think SF wins and wins big. - Robert Scoble

Carlton: with one exception: NY is the media center of the world, so if you want to be in TV, advertising, music, etc then it'll be hard to beat NY. I know some geeks who do nothing but write software for the digital signs you see in Times Square, too. Hard to do that anywhere else in the world. - Robert Scoble

Ahh, that makes sense then. I think I'd love the cultural aspect of NY, but I'd probably have a better "geek" time down in Cali. ;-) Thanks! - Carlton Hackett

I might be down for a FF meet-up tonight. - Tom Harrison

Good luck mofo! Have you decided on your power point alternative yet? Going to Scoble TV the action live? - sofarsoShawn

if schedule allows be glad to show you around our tower today :) - mike "glemak" dunn

Robert Scoble

Photo meme, I'm a pyro! I shot this last night at our neighborhood BBQ. Something about fire is captivating. Thomas Hawk, you got any fire?

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Inflammatory post. - Sean Oliver

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that sparks an interesting idea - Brian Appleby

OK, I won't go too crazy with friendfeed's "Add: Photos" feature. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

So what is this, the pun thread? ;) - Nate Pilling

I'm a pryo too - nice photo Robert - Chris Heath

Nate: put your puns on a stick and let's make some smores! - Robert Scoble

Robert, I didn't know you had a fire for art photography. - Zach Landes

Roasted pun does taste good this time of year. - Nate Pilling

Zach: I like all photography. Sometimes I just like abstract stuff. It usually doesn't get posted, though. - Robert Scoble

Well, really cool shot. What were you cooking? I need me a good hamburger but its hard to barbeque in the middle of London. - Zach Landes

great pic - Harscoat

Really cool shot but I am wondering if you took the beef out of the fire first? :-) - Marcelo Pinheiro

Zach: last night I cooked Chicken, Strip Steak, Hot dogs, but this fire was just for warmth. We had a block party last night and we all gathered around this fire with some wine and had good times. - Robert Scoble

I have heard of this block party in popular films and televsion. But never knew anyone throwing one or going to one...jealous! - Zach Landes

It's actually a good metaphor for friendfeed. Light a fire, grab some wine, tell a story. - Robert Scoble

It all comes back to FriendFeed with you doesn't it? ;) - Nate Pilling

Nate: absolutely! Why wouldn't it? - Robert Scoble

Are you a pyro..or...are...you...the DEVIL???? - Anthony Papillion

Thinking angels & demons - vaughn fry liked it. - Carolyn Wood

I agree... http://snipr.com/i7xbr - Scott W.

Nice fire Robert, check out one of my last BBQpix: http://tinyurl.com/oo4jdk - Jorge

The eternal flame at the 9/11 memorial in Battery Park: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Tom Harrison

A fire we built to keep warm while hiking the Appalachian Trail: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Tom Harrison

A trash can on fire in Harlem, from the NYC photowalk in Dec. '07: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Tom Harrison

nice one. yeah, I've got a set called Fire, Walk With Me: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Thomas Hawk

Robert, you should be on my Fireground Action Photography podcast! http://www.firegroundaction.com - Craig Durling

Really, Robert? You're starting a flame war? - Ken Sheppardson

I learned as a kid from "Cosmos" that fire is a plasma, not an element. OK, what is a plasma? - Stephen Pickering

Stephen: Plasma is an ionized gas -- a state of matter. Fire is not a plasma. - Christopher A Carr

Here's a wonderful poem entitled "The Phenomenon of Combustion" by Jack Myers my former Poetry teacher at S.M.U. and a Texas state Poet Laureate. http://www.stephenpickering.com/... - Stephen Pickering

Christopher, Carl Sagan said it was a plasma on "Cosmos" - Stephen Pickering

Stephen: He must have been using some other sense of the term. - Christopher A Carr

"Fire and St. Francis" (Andrew Hudgins) http://anne.ontargetwebsolutions.com/~friars... - Glen Mistletoe

Thomas Hawk

Patrick posted on the world's oldest Twitter user here: http://friendfeed.com/nextweb... She's 104. Let's see who the oldest and youngest FriendFeed members are. Post your age in this thread.

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I'm 41. - Thomas Hawk

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39 here. I have to wonder what technologies we'll see if I live to 104! - Kevin C. Tofel

Ok, I'm winning as the oldest friendfeed user so far since I'm two years older than you Kevin. - Thomas Hawk

There's a FFer in his 70s on here, I just can't remember who it is... - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

20. - Evan Travers

Tina, he must be present to win. OK so far Evan's the youngest at 20 and I'm the oldest at 41. - Thomas Hawk

I confess to be 62 - Gilbert Harding

Gilbert that's awesome! So so far Evan Travers youngest at 20, Gilbert Harding the oldest at 62. - Thomas Hawk

We have a FFer here who's 73. I'm 36. I'll go out on a limb and say Michael Forian is our youngest active member. - Captain Bubbles

who is 73 Anika? He/she's gotta post in this thread. So far Gilbert and Evan are winning. - Thomas Hawk

55, Gilbert has me beat by a few years. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

When my baby is born, I'll sign 'em up for FriendFeed. ;) - Tamar Weinberg

I don't remember, Thomas. We just did an age thing last week and he posted. I think it was in Alp's thread. - Captain Bubbles

54 - Rod Bauer from twhirl

does friendfeed have an age requirement in order to have an account like Flickr and other sites? - Thomas Hawk

Jack DeWitt Smith is 73 so he says. Damn it I thought I was going to win a prize here. - Gilbert Harding

37 - Alex Scoble

So Jack's 73 as the oldest and Evan's the youngest at 20. I can't believe that there are not any octogenarians on FriendFeed. You folks need to get your parents and grandparents on here. - Thomas Hawk

I am 32. - Louis Gray

Thomas: my son Patrick is on friendfeed and he's 15. - Robert Scoble

I'm neither. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Michael Forian is 14 - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Ok, So Michael Forian's the youngest at 14 and Jack DeWitt Smith's the oldest at 73. I just did the math on all mentioned in this this thread and the average age so far is 43.1 years in age. - Thomas Hawk

I am smack in the middle at 38 - holly

fetus. - Kevin Murray

Bumping the average up a little - 59 - Brian Sullivan

Bringing the average age down a bit :) I'm 21 - Roy Herrod

44 - Helen Sventitsky

25. - James Ferguson

24 - © b e e n s w a n k

Kevin, I've never met a fetus who can type. Ok the high low are still Michael at 14 and Jack at 73. The average is now 40.125. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas: Milan can turn on an iPhone, can select the icon of his favorite game, and can play a game. He's not yet two years old. So, expect him to lower the friendfeed bar pretty low pretty soon. - Robert Scoble

35. Looks like I'm right in the wheelhouse. - Mike Lewis

21. - Kevin Mohr

36 - edward volkert

Robert, would FriendFeed let Milan have an account? Is there an age requirement? I think Patrick got kicked off of Second Life for being too young didn't he? Mike L, Kevin, Josh and edward just dropped the average age down below 40 to 37.6 - Thomas Hawk

33 here... - Sean Simkins

38 - Mykl Roventine

Thomas: I don't see why my son wouldn't be allowed to have an account. I'm 44 by the way. - Robert Scoble

average now = 37.70. Michael the low at 14, Jack the high at 73. - Thomas Hawk

21 - Roberto Bonini

quite difficult to type, still waiting on some fingers. also as a fetus i dont know much but am questioning the term "FFer", sounds short for something else. - Kevin Murray

45 - Peter Dawson

37 - ororodc

Kevin I'm not buying that you're a fetus. Is it warm in the womb? - Thomas Hawk

24, need to bring that average down a bit. - Michael

I'm 26 years, one month, and three days. - Chris, Taskerrific Guy

27, so in the younger half. - Rochelle

41 here, and coincidentally just created an account for my son last night (2 1/2) playing with streaming his photos/activities for the grandparents. - Rick Bucich

hmmm.. Rick I'm not sure that this counts if he's not controlling the account. New average is 36.27, we're getting younger. I think that's a good thing maybe. - Thomas Hawk

25 Here, a whole quarter century - Brandon - BWC Games

venti ocho - chrisofspades

I'll bump it up at 51 - Sandra

warm yes, but pretty spotty wireless coverage. - Kevin Murray

30 here (at least for another month) - Justin Korn

27 - Candace

41 - ha3rvey (needs soup)

52/2 - Lokei Atikus™®

getting younger. Average age now 35.57. I'm starting to feel pretty old at 41. - Thomas Hawk

Akiva is AFK, but he's 37. - Rochelle

Looks like I'm sitting around the middle ground at 38. - Andy Bold

I'm 28 and I'm carrying a fetus. But I'm the one doing the typing. - Tamar Weinberg

Maybe Tamar's bundle wins...typing on FF by proxy? XD - Candace

I'm 33 and I'm carrying a fetus too! :p - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

Farty one, going on farty two ... - Rene Wirtz

33 here. Tad is 40. - Lindsay

35. Remember back in the day when that was old. - Chris Nixon from BuddyFeed

26 - Not breaking any records here. - Tom Harrison

No way. You have to guess - Martha

I'm 56. You got a problem with that? - Ted Gilchrist

28. Suddenly I feel younger than usual. - Matt

Over 200 comments with age info here: http://friendfeed.com/tweetfe... - Micah Wittman

52 - Leo Laporte

38 - meckimac

19 - Matthew Allen Horton

average age now: 35.67 - Thomas Hawk

man, I'm getting old... over average.. - meckimac

38 - M F

41 - Tied with Thomas Hawk ;-) Update...I lied! I'm 40! for 15 more days! - Bill Scherer

23 - Jessica

31 - Peter Kruit

37 - Laura Lou Who

22 - Asankhaya Sharma

39 - Gordon Corte

I'm 21 - Charlotte M

25 ----->-- - vijay

32 - clarke thomas

new average = 35.15, still getting younger. - Thomas Hawk

46 - Hanna Wiszniewska

26 - Blake

51 - Fred Yankowski

52 - Paul from twhirl

44 - John Francis

49 (just) - jcunwired

49 - Bonnie Wren

28 - Karl Knechtel

39- My son Arvin is 2yrs old and he is about to tweet - Jacque

42 - Christopher Harley

40, but act 20s ;) - Rui Pereira

I'd love to see more data, and then a graph. - Ted Gilchrist

34 myself - Andy Tinkham

17. - Zach Flauaus

43 - Dane Findley

29 - yagami

I've got my fingers scrabbling at the edge of 39 like James Tiberius Kirk on the cliff. Unfortunately, the laws of physics require that I eventually fall. Crap. - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF

35 - which makes me... Average :( - James Macgill

I'm 27. Divisible by 3. - Amy H.

Phew....worried I might be the oldest, but I'm just a mere 61! :) - Bonnie Foster

29. NOT looking forward to the next birthday. - Lis Miller

26 - Alejandro

I'm 41. My 95-year-old great aunt sends emails and receives weekly FriendFeed email, but doesn't post here. - Bruce Lewis

22 - Paul Stamatiou

Not feeling too old being 40 now :) - Ruud van Wijngaarden

38 - Lu Tao

25 - Mo Kargas

42. Apparently that number is somehow significant... - Sue Radd

LOL @ Sue - Roberto Bonini

26 - Amber, Random Time Lord

36 up in here. - Derrick

40 - metalerik

37 - Bitch

Still 58. - Russellreno

43 in 2 weeks. - Mark Krynsky

I'm 21 (again) - aflow

I'm 39 - Royce Fujitani

44 - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)

23 - Dobromir Hadzhiev

44 - Larry Kless

30 - Alisha Vargas

31 - Christian (Simply X)

14 - Daan Berg from twhirl

Older than a new idea but younger than a forgotten feud - Slippy "WildBeard" Lane

This is about the third time this question get's the best-of-day. I ran a poll last time at http://www.s-consulting.no/polls... - Frode Stenstrøm

58 - Nick in Manila

Hey, I might win! [update: oops, tied] - Nick in Manila

21! On another note.. this question wouldn't be a problem if frienfeed had extensive profiles.. but I don't want it to become a social networking site though! - Kris

54 and getting younger day by day! - johnny

26 - Jess Lee

NewsGang Live! Get your butts over here, and bump up the average! - Ted Gilchrist

44 - BEX

35 - (jeff)isageek

13 - I might be close to the youngest. :) - Alex

I'm 47. Probably the oldest... - Karen Mohler

I'm 38. The youngest 38yo in the world. - LouCypher

33-year-young - Jemm

I'm 27. - Colide81 (James) from fftogo

21 - Lizunlong

I'm 42. Nowhere near the oldest. More the average. - Jeffrey Allan Boman

28 - Lasse Johnsen

day late and dollar short as usual :) 58 - martha

26 - Marco

I'm not the youngest or the oldest. - David Cook

73 here among the youngsters - Jack DeWitt Smith

OK here's the chart: http://img.skitch.com/2009051... Thru Jack DeWitt Smith post. - Nick in Manila

How about oldest parent of a young child, 60 here with 7 yr old - Howard Feight

Howard: 58 here with 1 yr. old. So how do you compute winner? - Nick in Manila

a young whipper snapper at 39 ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

AJ Kohn

If you blog, how many posts do you have in draft mode right now?

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Me, I have 18. - AJ Kohn

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I more than 10... wanted to just publish them all. Sigh - AJ Batac

Probably around 20. I get good ideas sometimes but can never quite get them down to my satisfaction. - Mark H

6, but 3 of them need to be deleted because they're old news. Oh wait, I forgot I have 4 more in my browser's blog editor too. Blaaargh! I need to just post them. Too lazy to finish them. - Captain Bubbles

Eight. Most of which I probably won't publish. Should mine them for stuff to put into newer posts, though. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I actually just cleared out my drafts the other night. Although I have 1 saved draft email that I want to type up into a post, but all I have is the title. - James Ferguson

None. - Louis Gray

Far too many. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Does anybody use Google Docs for editing his posts? Is it worth? - Stanislas Jourdan

Maybe one or two - "draft mode" for me usually means in my head. I usually have a lot of posts scheduled though... sometimes up to 15 or 20. - Tom Harrison

@ajkohn currently I have two post in draft... - Kevin Tunis

Stanislas, I have used GDocs for writing posts, when I knew I was going to need to be working on them in two places (and didn't want to use the web interface because I write for a group blog and didn't want other people to see it until I was ready to post). I prefer using a desktop client like Windows Live Editor or MarsEdit if I'm not going to use the web interface, though. They... more... - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Thanks Jandy! (and sorry for the non-directly related question) - Stanislas Jourdan

(jeff)isageek

Twitter Deletes Fake Kanye West Account After Kanye Freaks Out - http://www.businessinsider.com/kanye-w...

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Here's Kanye's all-caps blog post: (This spaz comes courtesy of losers making fake Kanye West Twitter accounts) I DON’T HAVE A FUCKING TWITTER… WHY WOULD I USE TWITTER??? I ONLY BLOG 5 PERCENT OF WHAT I’M UP TO IN THE FIRST PLACE. I’M ACTUALLY SLOW DELIVERING CONTENT BECAUSE I’M TOO BUSY ACTUALLY BUSY BEING CREATIVE MOST OF THE TIME AND IF I’M NOT AND I’M JUST LAYING ON A BEACH I WOULDN’T TELL THE WORLD. EVERYTHING THAT TWITTER OFFERS I NEED LESS OF. THE PEOPLE AT TWITTER KNOW I DON’T HAVE A FUCKING TWITTER SO FOR THEM TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO POSE AS ME AND ACCUMULATE OVER A MILLION NAMES IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND DECEITFUL TO THERE FAITHFUL USERS. REPEAT… THE HEADS OF TWITTER KNEW I DIDN’T HAVE A TWITTER AND THEY HAVE TO KNOW WHICH ACCOUNTS HAVE HIGH ACTIVITY ON THEM. IT’S A FUCKING FARCE AND IT MAKES ME QUESTION WHAT OTHER SO CALLED CELEBRITY TWITTERS ARE ACTUALLY REAL OR FAKE. HEY TWITTER, TAKE THE SO CALLED KANYE WEST TWITTER DOWN NOW …. WHY? … BECAUSE MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS LOUD!!!!!!!!! - (jeff)isageek from Bookmarklet

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wow Kanye freaks out. The shock! - Jim Hearts FF

Needs to grow up. - Pete Gilbert

Kanye is such a DIVA. Yes, I said it. - Justin Whitaker

I don't know what annoyed me more, the grammar or the CAPS ! - Toby Graham

140 character limit would be a blessing... - Aron Michalski

lol @ the endless kanye hate. Sure, being concerned that twitter would let someone continue to pose as him for such a long time is a sign of being the worst person in the world. - Richard Lawler

+1 Aron - Andrei M. Marinescu

Ah... to be famous, egotistical, and self important... it must be nice. - Kris Kelley

who cares - James Rowe

"EVERYTHING THAT TWITTER OFFERS I NEED LESS OF." This made me think. he really doesn't need publicity and that is really why we all are on twitter...at least to some extent. He has a point here. - Freddie Benjamin

if this is the first time he 'talked' to Ev/Biz et al about the 'fake' account, then Kanye is lame. if, however, this was just the last in a series of moves by Kanye to get Twitter to pull this fake account then that's another story. - MikeAmundsen

Wow, he loves the attention so much so that he pretends to hate it. - Tom Harrison

Yikes! - Michael Kinney

Biz Stone doesn't care about black people. - Dustin Sallings

QOTD: WHY? … BECAUSE MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS LOUD!!!!!!!!! - Melinda Roberts

to quote from "The Anchorman": LOUD NOISES!!! - Can Koklu

Alex Scoble

I'd say that a thick skin is definitely a requirement for getting in to real discussions here on friendfeed.

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So is being intelligent and reasonable and truly interested. I think being open to different points of view is critical otherwise the discussion becomes black and white. - Steve Olson

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Thick skin is a requirement for life, I'd say. - Tom Harrison

Yep, just happened to me. I was joking and someone took me seriously and just blocked me. - Trish R

Wow, I submitted a comment once and it appeared 4 times. - Tom Harrison

Yes, I saw that, Trish. :) - Alex Scoble

It was totally a joke. Oh well. - Trish R

We should unionize ;) - Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)

LOL @ Aden. I returned too late to see what you said. - Trish R

I logged out to read the thread. The writer of the post had some pretty nasty comments. And Aden, your comments were fine. Wow. - Trish R

Some of the "jokes" are not jokes at all but nasty attacks dismissed by poster as a "joke." - Michael Tefft

Michael, my comment was completely a joke and not meant to be an attack at all. - Trish R

Yeah, I left after 3 or 4 days the first time I came on here because I got into a political discussion I should never have bothered commenting on anyway. Hated friendfeed for ages after that and then decided to give it another try. This time around I'm subbed to some pretty lovely and interesting people. Still need to work on my skin though :) Or just lay off the discussions altogether if I'm feeling heated! - Charlotte M

Replace "friendfeed" with "anywhere on the internet" and it still holds true. - Eric P

Too true, Eric. - Alex Scoble

I've always wondered if hyper-sensitive people think that communicating on the internet will be easier, since they don't need to be face-to-face with people. But, the reality is that it is often more difficult b/c tone/voice can be hard to read. There are jerks online and IRL and they both prey on weakness. - Katy S

You can't be thin-skinned in this joint. - Dave "Freedom 35"

Katy, thats exactly what I thought. Then I realized that talking face to face *was* actually the easiest way for me to communicate. I seem to have far more confidence online though. - Charlotte M

Charlie - it's something I'm acutely aware of, because I teach and study writing. I see so much of these issues in my students' papers - not "getting" how their words might come across to others, making jokes that don't come across, etc. However, I suspect most people don't think about it as much as I do. - Katy S

Define joke? One person's joke is another person's insult - rowlikeagirl

If one's person joke is your insult, then I submit that you aren't thickskinned enough to be on the internets. - Alex Scoble

While I certainly agree that one needs a thick-skin to surf the nets, saying one should never be offended or insulted strikes me as off balance. You get to say whatever you want from a desire to be funny and I don't get to say that I dislike it? Yeah. No. If you make a joke and it falls flat with someone and someone objects, well, then, that's the risk you take. Escalation is the thing.... more... - ♥patricia♥

*blocks pea for ranting at alex and alex for failing to get it* =D - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Tina, but we're still friends, right? Oh wait. Hmm. [sigh] :-) - ♥patricia♥

I love how I say one thing and it gets extruded in to this whole other idea like a block of copper that was meant to be an expensive brick that instead gets turned in to wire for making car airbags. - Alex Scoble

I'm grinning like an idiot now Pea. Needed that! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

how dare you sir - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

That's only because you don't get what you say, Alex.... - David HC Soul

Pardon me sir, but I always get my own jokes! You take that back! - Alex Scoble

So, uh, what exactly IS a troll as defined by Friend Feeders? (assuming Trish is referring to the same post I read) - Jess

Everyone has been uber polite to me in general, only one person has ticked me off in the time that I have been here, unsubbed in under 10 seconds, and ignored period. I find most everyone here polite. Guess I am missing the controversy. Dang. ;-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Dan, if you want, I can help you create some on your own feed. - Alex Scoble

True dat. - Derrick

And thick skin doesn't mean you have to put up with assholes either. But there's a difference between people having fun on a thread that goes against the grain of your conversation and someone being an asshole. - Alex Scoble

@Alex - I am sure you can do that, and by all means feel free to say what you want. If you come up with something new I'll give you a prize. I have heard it all from my upbringing, to how I breath. Even been called lame by Robert Scoble :-) and still hanging in there. :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Hehe, Dan, sorry but it sounded like you wanted some controversy in your life. - Alex Scoble

ROFL, Jason. - Alex Scoble

I'm on friendfeed because I DO give a crap what other people think. Even Alex! - Jim Hearts FF

Now that's scary enough to unplug from the internets... - Alex Scoble

I'm with dan i've avoided 90% of controversy probably because I avoid the politics stuff, but then I have managed to use Block for the first time in a year each of the last two days. I wouldn't blame everyone though it's either them or me or more likely the combination of the two. And actually I agree with Jim's thought I do care what people think but don't particularily worry about what they think about me. PS I'm probably a troll. Damn it all. - Steve C

@alex, no worries, I was trying to be funny and see if you could top what I have experienced in 7 years of blogging. You have to develop a thick skin when you blog, you have no choice. Same holds true for social networking. If you can not develop a thick skin, then maybe social networking might not be the right choice for you. Or you need to keep your social networking small amongst people you know (and even then that won't help when there is a personality blow out). - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Some of the biggest controversies you can get in to on the internets have nothing to do with politics. Some people are very very protective about their brands for instance, pretty much to the point of religion. - Alex Scoble

I've found that I've had to tone down my online sarcasm and abrasiveness a LOT since I've joined FriendFeed, especially in the last few months. Some people really won't or can't take a joke, or cannot view anything other than face value. I really don't have time to spend defending my opinions on anything. I've also gotten to the point where I will not tolerate any kind of trolling on my... more... - Helen Sventitsky

Pfffttt...I fart in the Texans' general directions. - Alex Scoble

What? People are sensitive? NO! What happened!? I went to bed, kids were skipping hand in hand down the lollipop streets and now? It's one-dozen shivs a second and a taste of blood to boot! What a world... - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

I'm afraid it's true, Tutivillus. - Alex Scoble

People have their sensitive issues, and I know I've had my feelings hurt on here before by more than one person AND I've gotten pissed off before, too. But I would hate FF if everyone had the same opinion and agreed on everything. No discussion is great until there's dissenting opinions and momma jokes. With regard to the thread today, I actually found out I was blocked because I was... more... - Trish R

*gives fistbump to Trish* Happens to the best of us, Trish. - Alex Scoble

I did find it funny, though, that he blamed the whole thing on "the Scobles attracting the trolls." Alex is Troll Bait! - Trish R

I think discussions here at Friendfeed easily turn into sarcastic dialogs. This is understandable in some way. After all we are throwing text at each other. I doubt if many of us would be just as cocky if the same discussions were taking place face to face. - Rutger Blom

Rutger, I know I wouldn't be. :/ - Helen Sventitsky

Rutger, I think that all depends on how many drinks I had in me at the time. :) - Alex Scoble

Alex, LOL :-) - Rutger Blom

What is skin? - Mike Nayyar

It's that brown stuff (at least in your case) that is holding you together. - Alex Scoble

You're wrong, Alex, I'm held together by hair and thin viscous fluids - Mike Nayyar

Well, you'd die without your skin nonetheless, Mike...and really you wouldn't work at all. It would be quite messy. - Alex Scoble

Sorry Rutger i'm a complete asshat in public, worse than on here. I randomly throw headbutts around and bite puppies and newborns. - Steve C

Oh, it's messy already. Quite messy. - Mike Nayyar

Outside of the dreaded election campaign, I think I've only offended in one conversation, and that was because I recently joked about religion. I don't offend easily myself, knowing full well that individuals find themselves totally empowered to say just about anything when their hands are hovering over a keyboard. I've only blocked one individual due to a sudden name-calling frenzy against myself and one of my friends here. - jcunwired

I got a thick head. Does that count? :D - Steven Perez

Yes, it does Steven. :) - Mathew A. Koeneker

I haven't been on FF much these past couple of weeks. Since I started my new job and am much busier, I'm finding it harder to justify coming here to be called names by your brother, etc. I used FF to kill time, and now I have no time to kill! :) - Dawn

Ryan Block

So Apple (finally!) responded directly to Microsoft's Laptop Hunters commercials. This is getting good! http://movies.apple.com/media...

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oh snap - Jay

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can Apple really advertise "no crashes"? Microsoft's ads are leading too but damn - Richard Lawler

She's cute - Rodfather

Richard, the only things that ever crash on my Mac are Microsoft's office products. - David Eedle

and my pc never crashes, we can all play this game. crashes and lockups happen all the time, on all different platforms. I just want to know who will have my refund when a kernel panic happens. If they said "less" it would be one thing, but they didn't. - Richard Lawler

Yeah, I've managed to lock up my Mac Pro a few times. Not very often, but it's possible. - Tom Harrison

I agree with Richard. I really honestly just don't understand the Mac vs. PC debate anymore. They're essentially the same thing now, you just get things done a little differently. - Tyler Hayes

I'm a Megan - Johnny Worthington

I married a Megan: http://www.twitter.com/megruth - Luke Stay

Tyler: it's not a Mac vs PC thing anymore it's Mac vs Windows (which can be reduced to Mac vs PC) but at it's core, it's apple vs microsoft ... plus the mac is a Personal Computer, but since Microsoft has given PCs a bad name they tried to brand the Mac as not a PC as to not muddle their brand's image. - Chris Heath

Great commercial - it's that simple! - Medical Alarm Concepts

That was great - Abbas Haider Ali

I love it. I'm a PC ... but I want a Mac. - Angela Schelden

the posted link is never working for me...Nevermind, found it on youtube. - JoEllen

Dear Apple, I have a PC that also does not crash, doesn't have viruses, and is not a headache to deal with. It's called, Linux. Thank you, and I am a PC running Linux. - Wizetux

Dear Apple, I have a PC that also does not crash (as long as I keep it free of dustbunnies), doesn't have viruses and is not a headache to deal with...It's called Windows XP. I'm a PC. - Alex Scoble

This is funny, but continuing the same campaign isn't a big enough response. They need to come up with a campaign that resonates as well as the Laptop Hunters series. - Stephen Mack

I'm a PC and I'll stay that way. I've built my own for about 15 years now and can't even remember the last time I crashed. - jcunwired

I'm a PC. I like having that $1300 in my bank account instead of Apple's. - Piaw Na

this is a pretty good response to the MS ads - Jamie

MS cant compete with hardware or commercials. Apple always ups them. - wowfreeze.blogspot.com

Alfredo

What are some of your saved searches?

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anybody have any neat tricks? - Alfredo

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I don't have any saved searches :o - Tamar Weinberg

...okay, now I do. Reputation management, of course. - Tamar Weinberg

I like "unliked hot topic" and "hot topic from non-friends" to follow what's going on outside my interests and communities. Also, "my reactions" (from me, with comments but not mine). - Jérôme Flipo

Cilantro and DYSP. - Steven Perez from fftogo

friendfeed only - Wallace

Most of them are filters for most liked and commented items in my friendlists (in case i missed somtehing) and top entries from everyone - Stanislas Jourdan

Jérôme, i didn't manage to make a filter for items i didn't like. I entered -stanjourdan in likes but nothing happens. - Stanislas Jourdan

(photowalking OR photowalk) AND (nyc OR new york) - Tom Harrison

Stan, type "-like:stanjourdan". The operator for like threshold is "likes:" and for the liker "like:". - Jérôme Flipo

ok thanks a lot :) - Stanislas Jourdan

Too bad that Friendfeed doesn't use the same operator than Google: () for AND and {} for OR. That saves me a lot of characters in my Gmail filters. For instance, I have "from:{facebookmail friendfeed twitter linkedin}" instead of "from:facebookmail OR from: friendfeed OR from: twitter OR from:linkedin" - Jérôme Flipo

well if you click the search box while it's empty you get the 'control panel' and change stuff there. i also found a nice room for saved searches http://friendfeed.com/ffss - Alfredo

Right now my only saved searches are "Twitter" and "Not Twitter", but this gives me a few more ideas. I think the saved searches room looks like a great resource too. Thanks :) - mark

Thomas Hawk

Final notice for warranty robo-calls? - Inside Bay Area - http://www.insidebayarea.com/oakland...

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"NEW YORK — Unsolicited calls to home and cell phones warning of a final notice and an expiring vehicle warranty are a nuisance and harassment and should be the subject of a federal investigation, a U.S. senator said Sunday. Americans increasingly are receiving calls with a computerized voice saying, "This is the final notice. The factory warranty on your vehicle is about to expire," or something similar, several times a day on their cell or land lines. The calls come even if a person has signed up for the national "do not call" registry. Now, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., wants a federal investigation into the "robo-dialer harassment." "Not only are these calls a nuisance, but they tie up land lines and can eat up a user's cell phone minutes, possibly leading to a higher cell phone bill due to overage charges," said Schumer. Meanwhile, officials in 40 states are investigating the companies behind the car-warranty calls. Michelle Corey, president and CEO of the Better Business Bureau in St. Louis, Mo., - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

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Finally - Robert Kenney

I must get 3 of these calls on my cell phone a week. Drives me nuts. - Bill Heslin

I haven't gotten any on my cell phone since I added it to the National Do Not Call Registry. They are so super annoying though. Hopefully they can get some legislation to put these people out of business. - Thomas Hawk

http://www.reddit.com/r... for great justice. - EricaJoy

818 870 5069 <-- robo-caller - Carlos Ayala

Carlos Ayala: Are you sure that belongs to the robo callers? I have heard they are spoofing innocent people's phone numbers. - Tom Harrison

I recently started getting these calls on my cell too, sometimes up to 2 per day. Last time I received one I made my way through their system and got an operator. They're very abrupt and aggressive. I offered no personal information but told her my number was a cell, and to not call again. She said she would add me to their do-not-call list and hung up. It has been about a week, and I have not received another call. - Tom Harrison

@Tom thats a well known one. At least on the internet it is. if you google that # you will get many results repeating the issue including forum results with more results within. i get called from this number on my iphone and on blackberry at least 3 times a week and so do my colleagues. could it still be spoofed? sure. but if it were and nothing has been done after all this time...they almost deserve it. - Carlos Ayala

They call my cell and our office all the time. - Jess Lee

That was great link EricaJoy . Enjoyed reading the posts on that :) - Bill Heslin

i get them on my skypein phone number all the time. glad someone is doing something about it - Justin Long

Thomas Hawk

Two Great New Photography Videos by Marc Silber - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

May 9 from Thomas Hawk Digital Connection - Comment - Like - Share

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The first video is a short one with pro photographer Chase Jarvis who talks about how important it is to just get out and take photos with your camera, no matter what your skill level and that it’s fine to simply shoot in program mode if you don’t know what you are doing. Too many people who take up digital photographer become intimidated by the complicated technology that sometimes comes along with the DSLR and photo processing world. Chase reminds us that far more important than any of the tech or nerd stuff is simply that you are out there with any camera framing images. The second video interview is a longer one and is with Senior Surfing Magazine Staff Photographer Jeff Flindt. Jeff is credited with 20 surfing cover shots for various surfing magazines. Surf photography is a whole genre in itself and it’s great learning about how Jeff has succeeded in that arena. - Thomas Hawk

Great stuff! I really like Jarvis' tip about not letting the technical aspects of photography become a mental block. I've got no hesitation when it comes to using semi-auto modes... they are great tools. - Tom Harrison

Thomas Hawk

My Photography Workflow 2009 - http://thomashawk.com/2009...

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Thanks for sharing! - Scott Loftesness

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Awesome, thank you Thomas! - Holger Eilhard

Interesting differences on how I use to do it. I usually copy the photos of the CF card to my desktop, geotag them (either automatically using an Amod GPS logger and GPSPhotoLinker or - just like you - manually with Geotagger - thanks to @craigstanton for that btw) then import them using Lightroom and apply some keywords during that step. From there it's pick, edit, output, upload. - Holger Eilhard

Nice thank you for sharing, cool read. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Thanks for sharing. I didn't know about Pro Photo Tools - I'll have to look into it. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)

Holger, I don't geotag first because 85% of my photos or so I never finish or publish. It would be too much unnecessary work to geotag everything for me. I suppose if the entire shoot was at one location this might be preferable, but frequently I'm walking around a lot and don't want to do any more keywording and geotagging than I have to. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas, have you ever considered getting a logger that you carry around to ease that process? Or using the - well, pretty expensive - automatic Canon solution in form of that WFT battery grip? - Holger Eilhard

Holger, I have thought about that and will probably end up doing that in the end. I'm not crazy about having to use the battery grip with my 5D M2, which is already very heavy and bulky and I'm also not crazy about having to synch up software and my images later with an external unit. Most likely though I'd expect to begin using the Canon solution (probably within the next year) on walks where I'm moving around alot and not using it for single location shoots which are easier to mass geotag. - Thomas Hawk

I know there are GPS units for Nikons that sit on the flash shoe and are pretty low profile. That might work better than a battery grip. Excellent post, by the way. - Ken Davidson

I hope Canon will release a cheaper solution to solve that problem. Getting an 700 Euro BG + 100 Euro GPS receiver isn't really the way I like... The Nikon thing is just ~200 Euro and gets the job done. - Holger Eilhard

Ken, for Canon there's only the battery grip (wireless file transmitter, not the regular BG) which allows you to plug in a GPS receiver... - Holger Eilhard

Thanks for sharing this. Was wondering why you don't keyword before you export the .jpgs. Also, since you don't mention DNG, I'm assuming you don't use it. Was wondering what your thoughts were on DNG. - Andy Roth

Andy, I suppose I could keyword before I export. I'm not sure what I really gain from that though. I suppose I like keywording later because I can get my developing done faster on individual images and export them out --that way I can begin seeing processed photos on my screensaver faster. This way if there blemishes I can still fix them. - Thomas Hawk

The advantage is, if you keyword before you export, both the RAW files and the .jpgs will contain the keywords. - Andy Roth

As far as DNG, I've never felt like I get much from that over RAW. As the photos are already RAW it seems unnecessary to do an additional conversion to DNG when I don't really understand the value of that format other than it is a more open format than Canon's proprietary RAW format. Personally I think that I'll always have a way to access those Canon files or at least have access to a... more... - Thomas Hawk

In terms of keywording RAW files, I guess I haven't really seen the value there when the exact same image is keyworded in JPG. It's pretty simple for me to search for a JPG file either on my hard drive or on Flickr/Zooomr and simply refer to the date in the metadata if I need to find the original RAW file, but I suppose whether you keyword before export or after export really is simply a matter of personal preference. - Thomas Hawk

Interesting that you use the Canon Camera Window for downloading. You may be the first pro I've run into who depends on it, but it makes sense. - Nick Savides

Nick, it's just super easy and reliable and gets the job done. There may in fact be better ways of doing it but it's probably one of those things that because it's not broke, why fix it. If I saw tangible evidence towards a better way to offload photos I'd certainly consider it. For a while I was annoyed that Camera Window would auto start Canon's processing software after it finished transferring the files, but then I just deleted that software and it stopped autoloading. - Thomas Hawk

the other thing about Camera Window is that it's lighter than Lightroom and takes less memory/resources. So if I'm out on a shoot and take a coffee break for a few minutes to offload files I don't need to boot up Lightroom necessarily. Normally under that scenario I just want to get the images off my card as quick and fast as possible. It does mean that later I need to synch the folders with Lightroom but that's not really a big deal for me. - Thomas Hawk

I liked your thoughts on using A and B folders to order your uploads. I've been doing that for a while, but in general I got tired of the manual upload process. I figured time could be saved by automating this, so I wrote a script that runs each day and chooses random A and B pictures to upload via the Flickr API. Once they're up. they are removed from the A and B folders. I never miss a day uploading, and it keeps me motivated to replenish those upload queues. - Tom Harrison

Great TH! More stuff for me to change. In the process I realized how out of date my workflow posts are. Time to update them methinks! http://www.phillprice.com/index... - Phill Price

Tom that sounds like an excellent way to automate thing and establishes your geek cred at a much higher level than mine. ;) I'd have no idea how to do a script for that. I actually like the manual process though as I can determine the exact order that they are to be uploaded in while looking at them. - Thomas Hawk

Haha, yeah Computer Science nerd here. I might publish the script at some point. - Tom Harrison

10 TB of photos is a _LOT_. I hope to one day get there but I my D40 doesn't make big enough RAW files. :) How do you search across all those images? Is there software reliable and powerful enough to not choke on that much data? I wish I could buy some sort of white label Flickr for this purpose. - EricaJoy

(I just use pixelpipe to upload from LR or if a delayed post I send a delayed email (through pixelpipe) - it posts to phillprice.com automatically (through my own WP plugin) when there's a new photos with the same title in all four places (smugmug, ipernity, zooomr, flickr) then th fave and comment grabbing comes in too; bliss! - Phill Price

Nice write up TH and well explained. Your process is almost identical to my current process except for a few minor things such as your geo tagging processes. - Justin Korn

Thomas - thanks for sharing; both your workflow and your photos. We mere photographic mortals can only aspire to your throughput, but sharing elements of the workflow lets us feel just a bit closer to the bar you're setting. - Rob Kramer

As a side note - fiddling w/ LR means it now rather handily imports photos off the memory card, and drops into folders organised and named by date, which works great for organising. Also, Jeffrey Friedl's got a great series of plugins that export to Flickr (and Facebook, among others) with the bonus that a metadata field for 'uploaded to' either service is marked yes or no - another option for keeping track of what's been published. - Rob Kramer

Yes thanks for sharing. This technical stuff is always very intriguing. Here's an interesting question - how much awareness do you have of what's in your photo library and where it is? I'm thinking about my own library of about 13,000 images of which 4,300 have been processed and I can still usually see a photo and know when and where it was taken. I'm wondering at what point that starts to become more difficult. Or does one never lose track much? - Tom Harrison

I don't know how he did it, but it's amazing - Daniele Di Gregorio

...great share @THawk! - .LAG liked that

You shoot so many photos I'm surprised you're manually geo-tagging photos the way you are. I would recommend a more automated method. I run a little app on my iPhone 3G called Trails which records my movements as I do a photowalk. It records a number of way points along the way and in the end you end up with a GPX file. Jeff Friedl has a cool little plugin for Lightroom... more... - Kenny Louie

Simple, yet effective. Inspiring for me to get up to speed - Bruno Raymond

Thanks for doing this Thomas. Always useful to share and understand workflows regardless of the topic. - Mark Krynsky

Thank you for sharing. How do you carry your stuff all day? Backpack? Bags? I know that having the camera with you full time it's the rule no. 1 but I believe it must be really tiring. When I go shooting I always try to limit as much as possible the extra lenses I take with me, just to be more free and comfortable. - ialla

Interesting article about your workflow. About DNG there is one huge advantage in my opinion. You keep all your metadata in one single file and get rid of the sidecars. The main disadvantage is the time it takes to convert the RAW-files to DNG. Otherwise I work very much like you except that I use Lightroom for import and HoudahGeo for geotagging. - Håkan Dahlström

Thanks for sharing this Thomas, I am actually thinking of implementing part of your workflow in mine. I think I have really come to a point now wehere I have to start thinking about my own personal workflow very seriously. One question: Do you delete all unflagged photos afetr your LR Session? - Alexander Kesselaar

thawk, great post. and some great comments. 1) you should consider releasing your lightroom development presets (like Matt does http://www.lightroomkillertips.com/archive... ) 2) in order to get the flickr pics onto my blog (using BlogEngine.net), i wrote a little extension that grabs the latest, formats them in a "lightbox". AutoFlickr. that saves me lots of copy&pasting. http://autoflickr.codeplex.com/ demo--> http://webguide.hopto.org/autofli... - big luzer

ialia, I use a Lowepro camera backpack (the CompuDayPak) that goes with me everywhere every day. Erica, I often will use Flickr or Zooomr to search for photos by tags and then look at the date of the image and go to that folder when need be. Sometimes I'll use desktop search if I can't find an image, but it seems to be slower. - Thomas Hawk

As for geotagging: Wouldn't it be nice if I could correlate my 'date + time taken' data in my picture with my iPhone GPS information? How close would you have to synchronize the clocks to get a reasonably accurate stamp...? - Charlie Owen

Crap. Kenny Louie said above you can already do this. Amazing. - Charlie Owen

Thomas, great, same backpack as I have. Still weighs I lot though... - ialla

And behind the scenes...All this takes a very very long time so it is peppered with brief gasps for air, hugs & kisses for his wife whenever he comes w/in 3 ft, playing hoops with the 2 boys, reading to all 4 children, providing guidance on homework & conflict resolution, pouring his wife a glass of wine nightly followed by a foot rub & netflix to coax her to sleep so he can continue... more... - Mrsth

@Mrsth: I can totally imagine that whole scene in my head. Incredible. :) - Bryan Villarin

Thomas, I would love to know your secrets on time management...I honestly don't see how you can do it all and still have a full time job to boot! Whew! @Mrsth I am impressed! - Susan Dennis

Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

When did you use Linux for the first time? and which one :D

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1993 or 4, DLD - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

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slackware was the first linux i experimented with somewhere around 2000 or so. didn't do much with it. Redhat was the first one i played around seriously with, around 2002 or so. i've been around *nix variants though since about 1993. - Imabug

1991 - playing with (probably the very) first Linux ever published - A.T.

@silpol and that was ...? - Michael Bravo

RHL 6.1 (Cartman). Somewhere around 2000. - Andrey Ivanov

I have tinkered with 0.96pl8 or so, maybe earlier builds but I do not remember to be exact. It was around time Eugene Crosser introduced first Cyrillic support into the kernel, I remember having to hack it in manually before that. Later, I worked in a company (with @yan here) which sold SLS on 5" disks (and later on 3") here in St.Petersburg, company was called Urbansoft. I am totally unable to map any of that to a timeline, though. - Michael Bravo

1999 or 2000 I think. Red Hat 5? (If this can't be I probably have totally wrong memory on this) I installed it one time, hoping to see something very special. Went back to Win98 quickly. I did play quite a lot of Sokoban (one of the many pre-installed games) on it though. - Meryn Stol

@mbravo: Hey, I think I remember Urbansoft ads in Russian translation of Knuth's "The TeXBook". They were distributing Cyrillic TeX as well weren't they? - Andrey Ivanov

1991 you could get SLS via walnut creek and some company in germany, iirc - that would have been a bit before slackware. I tried SLS but remember DLD was slicker - although in my head the distro I used was bought by Suse - considering SLS was the base of suse but DLD was bought by redhat (according to wikipedia) I am now unsure which I would have used. I used slackware for a while too -... more... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

@aivanov yes, and @yan was the TeX (and PostScript) resident guru :) - Michael Bravo

it definitively was DLD, 1993 - and redhat bought them but by then I was mostly on OS/2 and R switched to SuSe (he's still on suse today) - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

1992. Slackware. - Joey Gibson

if it's 1992 it was probably SLS, you remember slackware cause that's what you used next, it was modified from SLS and was, well, waaay easier? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

I did have a Linux CD in 1996, but did not use it till 1997; it was Debian potato or such. before that, I've had enough of Digital Unix and FreeBSD by that time to want also a Linux box, but by 1997 Linux became a viable enough desktop for a workplace, and nobody wanted to give me an Alpha box for a desktop %) - 9000

Jeez, you guys are *old*. ;) - Meryn Stol

Don't remember, but it was the last time, too ;) - Jemm

My grandmother is a linux user. Don't think much people can say that! :D (Admittedly, it's a dumbed-down "grannies" PC with big buttons for the few features it has, but it is based on Linux!) - Meryn Stol

1992 - sco linux by the way. Sad to see what has happened to them. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Never - used QNX 1.x in the early 80's though -- but that doesn't count I am guessing? - Brian Sullivan

1994. I don't recall which one, but I think it was slackware. Till that time I was pretty much all UNIX and till 2000 remained primarily a Unix person - Deepak Singh

circa version 0.9x - I started with slackware, and morphed it from there. - Kevin Johnson

I don't remember, but know I'd been using Red Hat for a while when I got Red Hat Linux 2.1.ORA, from the O'Reilly "Running Linux" Companion CD-ROM, 1996 - Ken Sheppardson

Wow uh...It could've been Caldera OpenLinux, and I bought it from PC World (here in the UK that's a shop, not a magazine/website) and that was quite a while ago... Not my first memorable experience with Linux though, that came with Slackware, and Mandrake. - Jalada

Mandrake around 2000, I think I tried using NetBSD before that and failed miserably, so I bought a book and it came with a Mandrake disc - Ryan

2000. Solaris. - Pierre Lindenbaum

@techwag there weren't any such thing as SCO Linux, ever. So it was either SCO UNIX, or you might be referring to Caldera OpenLinux, but the company was started in 1994 and wasn't subverted towards SCO until early 2000's - Michael Bravo

mid 1990s, slackware. - DGentry

Mid 90s, slackware was the first on a machine I owned. I did some fortran 77 coding on a UNIX mainframe much earler. Played with RedHat some a few years later. Now use Windows almost exclusively. How times have changed. - Mr. Gunn

1993 - Slackware - CW™

Early 90s. I installed it from a Slackware distribution. - Morton Fox

2003, knoppix. for recovering teacher's computer :) - Ahmet Ercan

'94, Slackware installed off floppies on a 386DX40. - Nick Lothian

The first one I "installed" and ran on my PC was zipslack back in either fall 97 or spring 98. I also ran into Redhat in my high school's computer lab in 97. - Daniel J. Pritchett

You guys should revisit slackware, or some of the desktop distros built on top of it. It's still good :D - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Most of the OSes I actually chose don't exist anymore. Am I cursed? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

OS killer! :) - Imabug

Red Hat or Mandrake, I think it was RT, late 90s - Micah Wittman

2002, debian potato - orie from fftogo

the first linux i used professionally was redhat (server), before that i was always on proper Unix. Used redhat 1999-2004 (the rackspace UK edition, very not stable). We also used Debian (when installing at clients, since redhat licensing was iffy), later fedora - and switched all servers to BSD in 2005. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

2002: Mandrake; then Red Hat, which I followed into Fedora; then Ubuntu, which I've stuck with. - josh neff, geek at large

2001. The IT boys taught me at Oracle. - Mona Nomura

2007. Ubuntu. never looked back. - Alejandro

Started messing around with Slackware in the late '90s, then really didn't do much until I started working with Gentoo and Red Hat around 2005 and Ubuntu a little later. - Tom Harrison

remember how hard it was to install? felt like 99 steps - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Last week, ubuntu 9.0.4 & open solaris - DanDan

Summer of '07. Switched from XP to Ubuntu. - Steven Perez

2005: Debian - now on Ubuntu. - Sarah Peterman

'97 with Red Hat. Also Mandrake. My god, those installs were /fun/. - Arlan Koizumi

I might have tried Linux first time via Telnet connection in 1998 but started to use it on my own computers in 2001. - Daniel Schildt

Hmmm, first ever was Slack c.1996 but really started to actually use it with Redhat 4 and 5. - Kenton

Opps, just noticed the question is for Linux, not UNIX ... Hmmm .... I believe Slackware in Mid 90's. - Rui Pereira

Not sure about those old days of Telnet fun, but later on I started to use Debian. After that, I have tried Mandrake (didn't like), RedHat (pain to administrate), SUSE (almost usable), Ubuntu (nice!) and probably few other distributions. These days, it's more likely Ubuntu or some another derivative of Debian. (While I have grown to like Mac OS X more than Linux recently.) - Daniel Schildt

Slackware, maybe 1998? Install from floppy, only to discover that the next to last floppy was bad. Hacked around that, fixed it post-install, and was hooked. Me-trivia - my first *nix was Xenix circa 1987, and published by this little company called Microsoft... - Andy Bold

2007 - Pardus (a Turkish distribution) - Alp

experimented some Redhat on 1999/2000, re-started with Debian on 2002, now using Debian/Ubuntu - Matteo

Found my Walnut Creek CDROM , Slackware 2.3 from July 95 - Greg Guitarbuster

wow Greg - still have an OS/2 box and a solaris box, but neither are quite that old. You packrat! - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Maybe I shouldn't mention my Post sliderule. - Greg Guitarbuster

Sometime in the mid 90s, started with Slackware... - Holger Eilhard

1996-ish, Slackware - mikepk

when I was 13, i believe it was redhat! - hormoz

2003ish - sofarsoShawn

1993 or 1994... Watchtower PPC on an Amiga 1200. - Brome

Around 2000. RedHat 5.something. - Jan Aerts

Hmmm. I don't think I did much Linux until after OS X came out (dual-boot), but UNIX in early '90s... AIX-RS/6000 & SunOS/Solaris-SPARC. - LogEx

Sometime around 1996, it was one of three distro that came with a book I got. I was running OS/2 Warp as my OS at the time and when IBM later shutdown OS/2 support, I switched on over to Debian. - Grant Bierman

1996, Red Hat. Took me until 1999 to become a regular Linux user. - Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)

a knoppix live cd was my into to linux - Phil Maxwell

1994, Slackware, installed from 24 or so floppies on a 486. But then Win 95 came out. I switched back to Linux in 1998, with Red Hat 6.0. I haven't used Windows as my primary OS since then, although I did end up switching to OS X in 2002. - Victor Ganata

Sometime in the early 90's. Probably slackware. - Rodfather

Slackware 1.0 was the shit!! Wish I stuck with it.. but the leur of Novel Netware and Windows 3.1 were too alluring with paying jobs. Yes I am old. - CW™

It was Slackware (or maybe Debian) and I installed it on a Packard Bell that had previously been running Win 3.1. Not sure what year that was :) - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

first slackware out ;) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Around 1996, Slackware. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

I'm in the "never" camp. Anyone else? - Rochelle

Linux on the server or desktop? - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

2003ish Red Hat 6.0. First when I switched was SuSE 9.3 Pro. @Rochelle: Never... not even on embedded devices? that is unusual. - Jake (aka Jawee)

2007 ubuntu - Ryan Dadey

It would have been Redhat in 99-00 - Will Higgins™

2001 Knoppix - Keith - @tsudo

1997. I think I tried Slackware first, then quickly moved to RedHat. I was cleaning up all my old distro CDs on the weekend and had a little trip down memory lane .. the oldest burnt disc was probably RedHat 6.2, but I think there were some older versions on the pressed CDs I bought with RedHat, SUSE, Slackware and Debian and a commercial MetroX X11 server. - Andrew Perry

I'm impressed how many people have kept CDs and floppies from the early 90s - I think I have a few games and might have windows 98 somewhere, but I cleared most of the older stuff when I moved - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

Was trying to remember what some of these linux distributions desktops *looked* like, and for most I cannot. I should have kept screenshot, my desktop(s) are as much part of my history as the flats we lived in... - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

2005 installed it on my working station when I had a lazy working day, I believe it was Ubuntu... the boss didn't like that - Dobromir Hadzhiev

This one's easy, never and none. - Christian (Simply X)

2000, Debian. - Neil Saunders

1999, RH 5.2. - Pawel Szczesny

1999 RH - Ethem Uslu

1995 Slackware, but I had SLS kicking around on CD-ROM from Walnut Creek a while before that but coudln't work out what to do with it :) - Daniel Swan

1993 or 1994, Slackware - Lars Juhl Jensen

in 1995, Slackware GNU/Linux v1.2.3 on an i386 SX-20 ;) This machine became as 'fast' as the i486 DX2-66 running windows: it impressed me, I continued to use Linux. - Thierry R. Andriamirado

Years ago and I don't remember. Seriously started about 98-99. Really liked using it. - Richard A.

1994 : needed a cheap unix like system, the distro does not exist anymore (I remember the CD to be red with white grid on it), we still used it 10 years after that - Olivier

June 2001, Red Hat Linux 7.1 Norton Antivirus had crashed my pc, and I was bored. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I think it was around 1996. Slackware. - Diego Barros 

@mbravo that was ftp-downloaded from garbo.uwasa.fi if my memory serves me correct... and it was NOT classical linux as we know it nowadays -- rather kernel with BSD-stuff glued on top of it *with chewing gum and what not* ;) - A.T.

@silpol, that is as dedicated hard-core as it gets, i certainly could never bother with the download and build approach :D PS: it is still linux nowadays - linux kernel, a thick layer of old school BSD and/or gnu apps and services (apart from the filesystems, many of the components still today pre-existed linux), then you get onto the X and windows managers and apps where nobody can't tell anymore which are "linux" inspired and which are not. - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

@Nick Lothian - we are almost the same, 1994, slackware, but mine was on a 386SX33 ; that sx part really bit me in the ass because, as many of you probably know, it had no math coprocessor and thus couldn't handle floats. No matter how much I tried I never could get that damn thing to dial up and connect to my ISP. - Bill Rawlinson

@silpol yeah, mine was something like that as well, see version numbers I mentioned :) - Michael Bravo

Last year on my Eee PC - Shey, Jamaican of FF

1996 or 1997 and I think the first one might have been mandrake. I can't remember. I'm a ubuntu junkie now though. - Beau Liening

Rob Diana

why does css layout have to be so damn difficult? I wish there was a better way.

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Custom css, yeah. But I use YUI grids; painless. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

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How about Tables??? *gags* - Roberto Bonini

Ahsan, I was using grids before and was trying to simplify some things. I may have to go back to it to see if it works better. - Rob Diana

Roberto, I thought about a table for the dynamic part of the layout, but tables have their own problems. - Rob Diana

Aren't grids just tables? - Todd Hoff

Frameworks are the better way. Blueprint, 960, etc. all take the guesswork out of how to create a CSS-based table-less layout. Why reinvent the wheel? - Mark Trapp

Todd, Grids are table-less tables :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

For YUI? As I remember in GWT they were tables. - Todd Hoff

YUI is all div based. It is fairly good, but I was trying to limit how many "core" frameworks I was using. - Rob Diana

I use Jquery, and YUI's CSS. I had a look at Blueprint/960 - they seem good for fine-grained layouts. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Ahsan, JQuery and YUI would be what I am using. Are there any conflicts between them? - Rob Diana

Between the YUI css (reset-fonts-grids & base) and the Jquery scripts ? Nope. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I don't know if I'm a snob or a purist or what, but I cannot get into using a CSS framework - it just seems like way too much overhead for most sites when I can roll my own CSS from scratch much much faster, and with more semantic sense - Nathan Chase

CSS makes me want to cry. - Mona Nomura from fftogo

I mean come on... grid_7 prefix_1 grid_2 omega grid_3 suffix_1 - these mean absolutely nothing when looking at the code - I want my html to have classes that MEAN something - Nathan Chase

Haha, you've been using Blueprint Nathan :) Control comes at a price. - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

Blueprint is the reason I made my own personal frameworks - Mo Kargas

Sorry. I don't really have a huge problem with it .. . just an occasional snag. I don't use a framework apart from a small bit of resetting css. - Lindsey is Fierce!

Microsoft WinForms have perfectly viable layout techniques that do everything CSS does and more in a more reliable and easier to understand way. Why hasn't a spec similar to that popped up yet? - xero

here's an example of a design I did for CSS OFF last year: http://cssoff.com/entries... - I didn't "win" the competition but I was pretty pleased with my code. It's all by-hand, from a .PSD, in less than 24 hrs. (See http://cssoff.com/2008... for details) - No frameworks used... Getting the microformats syntax correct was the hardest part, really. - Nathan Chase

@Nathan Nice work. These days I tend to avoid the frameworks too. I think it's better for ultimate control if you do it yourself. - Mo Kargas

In a sadistic sort of way, I enjoy the challenge of hand coding CSS. - Dennis O'Neil

CSS makes perfect sense as long as the browser cooperates - the only reason CSS still sucks is because of browser inconsistencies - If we were only having to cater to Firefox 3 users, life would be so much easier. It's been said that web development is the "most hostile" environment for a programmer/developer to work in, and it's because of the myriad of variables the web presents that we have to deal with. - Nathan Chase

the only CSS framework I use is a single line of resetting that clears margin, padding, outline, and border from all html elements so that the browsers are all on the same playing field to start - Nathan Chase

I think CSS is great, although there are a few cool features of CSS 3 that I wish more more widely supported. I've never heard of using a CSS framework... do many people do that? Most of the common page structures can be coded in minutes - I don't see the need. - Tom Harrison

@Tom - secretly, I think the only people who use CSS frameworks are the ones that can't shake the idea of using tables for layout, but know they can't do it forever - that's just my take on it - ;) - BUT, to each their own. Whatever makes things easier for you... - Nathan Chase

I confess I started using css frameworks because front-end dev is not my primary focus, and I needed something quick to get me up and running. Recently, we did a website where I tried to use 960 to convert an intricate PSD design. I gave the designer so much hell, he wrote some custom css for me :) - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

I go back and forth on the merits of framework/fully from scratch. I did try 960 Grid for the first time (in this project: http://smugscope.com/ ) and overall it was a good experience. The only major headache was in absolutely positioning the search controls (upper right corner) - there was a browser-specific difference that forced me to take a difference approach which was tedious to figure out. But hey, this is CSS we're talking about :) - Micah Wittman

Hire someone? - Charlie Anzman

Just took a look—nicely done, Nathan. - Micah Wittman

Even if the browsers cooperated, CSS still wouldn't make 100% sense. To be a domain-specific language, it fails horribly at some of the most oft used cases, and the stories for its usage are often convoluted. Especially around how certain relative interactions work, positioning in general, and many of the default settings. The box model is absurd honestly, though I can work with it. Hand-coding is basically the only way to go, but only really because it is near impossible to actual design it for reuse. - xero

We're beating up CSS (for good reason), but if you think about programmatically designing for a low level layout format like Postscript/PDF, well it makes CSS/HTML look pretty good. I don't know, is there anyone here whose experience is otherwise? - Micah Wittman

I'd take CSS over Postscript and GDI any day for doing the things which CSS are intended. But I can think of several vastly simple improvements over CSS, some of which I have on the back burner for my own proposal for a CSS replacement. - xero

Because HTML was originally designed to describe layout, and CSS was designed to help describe font styles, but when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. - Jesse Hattabaugh

@Jesse, that's actually pretty wrong. HTML describes content. - chrisofspades

Chris: that's not what it was originally for. HTML described web pages, including presentation. After a while, CSS was invented and people decided that it was better at presentation, so the presentational elements of HTML have been deprecated and are slowly being removed. - Mark Trapp

while <font> and <b> may be presentational, I'd hardly say they describe layout. but now we're talking about semantics (pun intended?). which can be a discussion unto itself heh. - chrisofspades

Frames, however, did describe layout, as did tables. There was a time before CSS, and HTML got along relatively well, for many years. - Mark Trapp

frames and tables were not originally part of HTML: http://www.w3.org/History.... neither were <font> and <b> for that matter. - chrisofspades

and young as I may be, I been around HTML for nearly 15 years. I've written many a nested table. - chrisofspades

I hate CSS too, they haven't really progress much since 10 years ago - Nestor

Robert Scoble

PHOTOWALKING alert! Dream Machines photowalk meets at Half Moon Bay airport on Sunday (tomorrow). Details here:

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You are invited. - Robert Scoble

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Robert: hardly fair. I'm in Washington State! :( Come up here for one, ok? The east side. (Spokane) - Sheryl

Yeah, we love photowalking but always wind up just doing our own. We'd love to join you on one sometime. - Ken Camp

Meet at 10 a.m. near front entrance. Call me at +1-425-205-1921. it costs money to get in. I believe $20. Let me know if you can't afford it. - Robert Scoble

There are 2,000 machines. URL: http://miramarevents.com/dreamma... - Robert Scoble

cool, so it's on. I'll see you down there then. - Thomas Hawk

Yeah, it is on! - Robert Scoble

95% sure that I'll make it down there for this. Looking forward to it. - Mike Doeff

Cool! I will try to be there on time! (coming from East Bay) - Gregg Le Blanc

I'll be there. - Jeremiah Owyang

I wish ... again! - Susan Beebe

here are my photos from when we went 2 years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Thomas Hawk

2000 machines ! *waiting for your top 10 list* - Prashant

Just arrived at the show. - Thomas Hawk

Just arrived. Where are you guys? - Mike Doeff

Going up in the air with scoble - Thomas Hawk

sounds like fun dont think i can make it.. - David Gross

Had a great day out and got so many fantastic shots. Thanks guys! - Thomas Hawk

Heading back home now to watch my sons Jack and Will at their baseball game. - Thomas Hawk

Dang, discovered this too late. Oh well. - Russellreno

Robert ~ I did not see this on Socializr. When and where did you announce this? Other than here I mean. /scurries to create Saved Search. - Russellreno

Looking forward to seeing everyone's photos. Any video? - Tom Harrison

I shot some video. Really great day. - Robert Scoble

I had a great time at this. Great to catch up with everyone and meet some new people too. Video and photos coming soon. - Mike Doeff

My photos are now up: http://www.flickr.com/photos... Russellreno I announced it here and on Twitter. - Robert Scoble

the jellyfish are outstanding - Gary Prechtel

genuine smile by maryam nice - Gary Prechtel

Thanks Robert. - Russellreno

It was a fun walk... thanks for inviting us along! - Darius Dunlap

Had a great time meeting people and filling my CF card! Working on photos now. Working off sunburn and flat tire. - Gregg Le Blanc

Sunburn hurts, pictures don't! Here is the first set. I'll most more of machines later: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - Gregg Le Blanc

Zach Flauaus

Really thinking of making a dedicated Twitter email account. Too many messages from Twitter cluttering my inbox.

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I use Gmail filters to catch all social networking-related messages, apply a "social networking" label and skip the inbox. They stay out of sight until I choose to see what's waiting. - Tom Harrison

I'm going for that method. Hopefully it'll help. - Zach Flauaus

I use the same methodology as Tom. - Russellreno

Robert Scoble

Hanging out at Dream Machines with @thomashawk and @greggerca - http://ourdoings.com/roberts...

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2000 machines. Lots of fun! - Robert Scoble

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Is Thomas post-processing photos right there on the dreammachines09 shoot? - Bruce Lewis

Bruce: he shoots so many he fills up his cards and offloads them to his mac to make more space. - Robert Scoble

Makes sense. I bet he's shooting in raw format too. Raw fills cards up fast. - Bruce Lewis

I just carry more memory cards than I can count. - Tom Harrison

21 meg a file on that Mark2 will hit a cf card pretty hard - Zach Scott

I shoot raw and JPEG for every photo. I think Thomas does that too. - Robert Scoble

I'll just say it. I think Thomas Hawk is hot. - Patricia

I've always been curious about the way Thomas shoots. By looking at his porfolio, one might think every shot he takes is perfect. Of course that can't be true, but he's one of the most amazing photographers I've come across. The quantity of his work is consistently top notch. Robert, are you using the the 5D Mark II on video shoots. - Michael Fidler

it was a gr8 day today. a little breezy, I'll get pics on up on auto-diner.net soon. the kids loved it (had to keep their sticky hands off those ladies :) loved the 68 camaro ss convertible. whoo haaaaaa - Lisa Schwartz

Kevin C. Tofel

Decided to face my long-time fear of programming

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OK, let's see if I got this straight. I print on line 10 and 20 takes me to 10 again. Where's line 15 and what if I want to count by 5's?!? No wonder I never got through this book. Screw it: I just found my Jumpman cartridge! - Kevin C. Tofel from email

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lolol!! - Mona Nomura

Haha, hard to tell if you're being sarcastic, but basic programmers number lines in multiples so if one should insert a new line in the middle of their code, each line thereafter does not need to be re-numbered. - Tom Harrison

Sorry Tom, I was being sarcastic. ;) Sadly, I am all too often and it doesn't always come across properly on the web. Thx! - Kevin C. Tofel

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