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Live now: This Week In Tech 218 with John C. Dvorak, Dwight Silverman, and Patrick Norton. http://live.twit.tv Discuss here....
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Hi Leo I get a message of TWIT IRC saying Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at embed.mibbit.com
- Emery Walker
Mibbit seems down, use a proper irc client... point it at irc.twit.tv
- Chris Heath
The irc isn't working for me.
- Chris Bombria
Try Chatzilla
- Sebastian
Costco has Windows 7 family pack for $125...makes it $45 per license after tax.
- The Griff
Was it newton???
- Roberto Bonini
recursion
- Mikhail Garber
I'm On Windows 7 on all my machines
- Roberto Bonini
Im on Windows 7
- Sebastian
I'm waiting to get my free Win7 from Dell
- Jay Michael
OS X baby!
- Stelian Iancu
Patrick Norton Jr is cute, how old is he?
- Stelian Iancu
Looks like the same age as my older son.
- Stelian Iancu
I install Chatzilla but don't know how to get it pointed to irc.twit.tv
- Emery Walker
I have snow leopard on MacBook and just installed Windows 7 on HP Pavilion
- Martin Cooper
Emery, type /server irc.twit.tv
- Chris Heath
I would use MIRC for IRC
- Jay Michael
then type /join #twitlive
- Chris Heath
then change your nick with /nick nickname
- Chris Heath
mIRC for Windows and X-Chat for Linux
- Sebastian
web chat is one not working
- Siouxmoux Riopel
"the crying room"
- Squealing Rat
I'm getting an error when I go to live.twit.tv
- Victor Hooper
I think the irc is full. I can't log in either
- min
irc is not full, just broken!
- Squealing Rat
irc has overflow so you just end up in another channel
- Chris Heath
IRC works fine
- Sebastian
it the norton effect
- Siouxmoux Riopel
irc is not broken, mibbit is having problems, not irc.twit.tv (mibbit is the web embed)
- Chris Heath
For someone who says they don't care about twitter, Leo spends a lot of time talking about it...
- jccalhoun
the web interface is down and ime dammed if installing somthing that has loads of servers set up and tried to connect to some radon fracking sever fail
- Maurice Walshe
just another twitter show
- Mikhail Garber
brizzly is the new power twitter
- Siouxmoux Riopel
This is why I use Mibbit. IRC is beyond me
- Conrad Boone
so irc is broke then
- min
I love twitter!
- Colide81 (James)
Maurice get the chatzilla firefox addon
- Chris Heath
were else is it sown live?
- Victor Hooper
ustream, and stickam
- Chris Heath
stickam is dead
- min
I think this is going to be a very "obvious" episode of TWiT
- Mark
blaa blaa blaa twitter twitter twitter
- jccalhoun
it works! tanx
- Victor Hooper
every show except for SN was talking about twitter this week
- min
Thank you Chris for helping me
- Emery Walker
you need an irc client to get to the chat. Mibbit is down
- Ari
google profile, google now knows everything about you
- Siouxmoux Riopel
Google already knows everything about me. They have my email.
- Tom Horn
AOL...ouch....that's the kiss of death
- min
I am using Ustream full view http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf...
- Emery Walker
no kidding john. who's heard of half this stuff
- Victor Hooper
Me :)
- Roberto Bonini
not enough news i guess. add filling here
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I used wakoopa for a while and then it got old
- Jay Michael
Windows7 baby
- Craig
Trying to get mIRC to work is definitely the least fun I've had watching TWiT
- Conrad Boone
IRC chat still not working over here
- wyliesau
xchat's better
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
xchat's free too
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
http://www.silverex.org
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
It says I need Microsoft Agent, because it doesn't come with Windows 7
- Conrad Boone
OpenProj for project managment and Dia as a visio replacement
- johniac
if you have firefox you should just get the chatzilla addon for IRC
- Chris Heath
yeah, chatzilla's an easy starter
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
just got into irc.twit.tv
- Martin Cooper
Stream is fine in Canada
- kevin_lo
the streme on twit live tv is not working but ustreme if fine
- Victor Hooper
stream's fine in switzerland too
- wyliesau
but IRC sucks
- wyliesau
ok its working now finally but the chat is odd
- Victor Hooper
irc was always odd
- min
700 odd
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
whoa, 850+ odd... mibbit must be back up
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Yes, Mibbit's fixed. I have to remove a load of IRC clients now
- Conrad Boone
if you are a college student check your college's bookstore. I can get win7 for $20. that's cheaper than the online student thing
- jccalhoun
it is an odd episode this week, something doesn't feel right
- Mark
does validation have require .edu connection as well?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
and/or updates?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Why do this show always turns into a Windows bashing session?
- archaictree
Apples' OS has not been trouble free.
- archaictree
I just remembered Patrick was supposed to be on this show...
- jccalhoun
Sheamus!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
yeah, i think media servers are finally gonna make a dent
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I want twit to stream to my atari 2600
- Siouxmoux Riopel
what was that? Nook-E what? could be a title
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
helloo gentlemen
- Pam Gwenzi
hi pam. maybe i'm the only one.
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
gentlemen?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
so which politicians can we actually expect to codify reasonable net neutrality laws?
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
even half the techs listening to leo don't understand the complexities
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
I would like to buy Virtual World of Twit for my facebook page
- Siouxmoux Riopel
Geocities will live on Internet Archive
- Siouxmoux Riopel
think i added geocities to my hosts file once
- Preternat (Ken Cadby)
Yes Leo Lycos is still in business. But no one uses it.
- Siouxmoux Riopel
all the old search engines are still around. hotbot.com, altavista.com, webcrawler.com, and excite.com are all still around
- jccalhoun
Tease; This week on TWiT, John C. Dvorak weighs the case for and against net neutrality, Dwight Silverman rates Windows 7 a winner, and Leo kicks his Farmville addiction.
- Leo Laporte
can't wait lol!
- Jay
i downloaded the new twit podcast and got security now with steve gibson! :D woops leo!
- Kenneth Sundby
they ack'd that problem it was a cutting room floor mistake... it's fixed now
- Chris Heath
good show waiteing on patric with did u see u2s live shpw on youtube lastnight from california
- daveccorey
you can stil watch it on outube 2 day veryy goodif your a u2 fan
- daveccorey
Tip: Get your Gmail/Calendar/Contacts actively pushed to your iPhone, WinMo and Nokia S60 phone - http://www.google.com/mobile...
Active sync via Exchange, with minor limitations. iPhone limitations: http://www.google.com/support... WinMo limitation: "Google Sync currently supports synchronization with your Gmail, main Google Calendar, and the contacts in your My Contacts group. " http://google.com/support...
The contacts don't sync too well on the phone. I have contacts with multiple phone numbers (mobile) and they don't appear all on the iPhone. And that's a deal breaker for me. So as much as I love Google, I'm trialling MobileMe now.
- Stelian Iancu
Embraceware - Awaken for Mac - http://embraceware.com/awaken/
Nice alarm software for the Mac
- Stelian Iancu
What's your geekiest/favorite gadget right now?
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I'll start. I'm enjoying playing with my Pogoplug, which turns any USB hard drive into a network hard drive that you can access from the web anywhere in the world. pogoplug.com
- Matt Cutts
I am totally addicted to my iPod Touch. I've been using my PC less now, but sadly it's also effected my blogging and productivity.
- Imran Hussain
Predictable answer, I know, but the energy related apps on my iPhone.
- Peter Troast
matt what happened to your hair?!! (ive been on vacation)
- sean percival
My new HTC Magic. Been hacking on it and installing all sorts of ROMs and apps ever since I got it 2 weeks ago.
- Stelian Iancu
from iPhone
HTC G1. changed my life.
- Erez Sonnenschein
He lost a bet ... he he.
- Stelian Iancu
from iPhone
My iPhone has changed my life!
- Peter
It has to Iphone 3G[S] which is my first video camera.
- ashish
Me too, Stelian: My HTC Magic is so much geek-a-liciousness: rooting, hacking customizing..
- J. David Goodman
Bought the iPhone 3GS 2 days ago, trying to organize the homescreens now. (Also: the move from iPod Touch to iPhone is actually a bit scary.)
- Gustav Holmström
Depends. My heartrate/stopwatch is winning me back. I wish it had GPS and a pedometer.
- Admiral Anika
@Gustav: Why is it scary?
- Stelian Iancu
from iPhone
My htc magic...great phone!
- Sufian Siddiqi
from Android
Holy mackerel, Matt!! Your head is shiny! My current favorite gadget is the Blackberry 8900+Google Voice. I feel sorry for those poor iPhone users ;)
- Ron's Home And Hardware
Blackberry 8900, although I cannot wait for the 9700, T-Mobile needs a 3G Blackberry device like yesterday :)
- Nithin Jawali
@Stelian: To use it with the operator I prefer here in Sweden, I have to jailbreak and unlock it. And its always scary to see if you made all settings right, and don't pay per MB of data you use, or roams of another network etc.
- Gustav Holmström
iPhone 3GS - I dumped a BB Bold and I am so happy now!
- Giorgio
the reprap open souced 3d printers http://reprap.org/bin...
- Maurice Walshe
@Gustav: Ahh, I know what you mean. I had to do the same here in Switzerland with my 3G. However, you're scared only the first time you do it :-)
- Stelian Iancu
@Stelian: Nah, scared the first days, and really scared to call and check the balance.
- Gustav Holmström
My IronKey. Hands-down.-- find out about it at ironkey.com
- Chris Arkwright
Lovin' my Slacker G2! Cancelled XM subscription months ago and this little G2 is far more enjoyable than any of the satellite radios (and service) I've had over the years.
- Aaron Katz
my E71, of course
- Ole Irgens
Palm Pre, ftw!
- .LAG liked that
iPhone / Palm Pre
- vijay
I've been really enjoying my new Nike+ app with running sensor that syncs with iPhone 3Gs/iTunes. I've been running alot listening to RAGE and tracking all my data. Pretty cool technology that I am benefiting from healthwise.
- Jason Cronkhite
from iPhone
Palm Pre - AKA pocketable Linux server with EVDO, WiFi, Bluetooth, touchscreen, keyboard, and a camera.
- Ken Sheppardson
Favorite is, ofcourse, my lowly Sony Ericsson W580i with the gifted Noise Cancelling Earbuds :D
- Yuvi
cell phone jammer for all you people with no manners!
- Drew
Pogoplug as well but soon it will be my new Drobo NAS!
- Lester Greenberg
the google flashing pin. It's hypnotic.
- gareth【ツ】
IPhone 3G
- Dave Dugdale
HTC Hero - I have had it for about a week by now, once you get rid of all the HTC Sence widgets it runs like a charm:-)
- Jonas Andreasson
from Android
Pedometer.... earlier it was iPod.
- Sudar
Usb coffe warmer
- Melita
Kinda old.. but Wacom tablet
- eapen
DSLR camera :)
- hIpPy
Currently it's my feet. Low tech discovers enabling me to walk/run home all of a sudden. Oh, and iPhone app. Runkeeper to make sure I remember it too :)
- (unknown)
My new netbook!
- Stephanie
Awesome Video: Welsh Police Department scares the living crap out of kids to get them to stop texting - http://www.intomobile.com/2009...
Everybody should watch this and show it to any teenager kid/friend/nephew they have!
- Stelian Iancu
Chromium Helper - http://wakoopa.com/softwar...
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What's this Chromium Helper?
- Stelian Iancu
I agree. What is this?
- James
Can someone tell me if Google Chrome for Mac is available and if not, what browser would you recommend other than Firefox. Firefox 3.5 is having problems...
Not yet. What don't you like about Safari?
- Mac64
If you are on OS 10.5 and above, Google Chrome is available for you. If not, well....I haven't found a single browser that doesn't crash at least once a week on 10.4 at the moment. (EDIT: shoot, I thought Chrome for Mac was out already. Mona had a link to it a while ago. I downloaded it and then found I couldn't use it because I'm still on Tiger.)
- Spidra Webster
I'm off and on with Safari - I do like it... I remember having issues with it too, but don't remember what they were. Also, the company's website I rep for doesn't handle Safari, so I have to use Firefox to place orders through the company website (if that makes sense).
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Spidra, right I don't have OS 10.5 (Leopard right?) - so I'm still in the dark ages *Sigh*
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
You can try Opera, http://opera.com
- Mac64
Omniweb, Opera 10 beta (although it can be a little crashy), Camino... Chrome (or Chromium) are both nice, but nowhere near ready for prime time.
- cecily
So, will Google Chrome ever be available for Tiger?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
You can get a beta version of Chrome for Mac over there : http://build.chromium.org/buildbo... but I'm not sure it will work on 10.4 ...
- boronali
No, it won't be available for Tiger, Jannifer.
- Spidra Webster
No it won't be available for Tiger?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Chrome is a pretty featureless browser that is still in early early development stages.
- Mac64
I've tried Safari, Camino & Opera. Safari and Opera have both crashed on me (Opera less than Safari.) Camino won't even launch without crashing because it apparently has a conflict with 1Password. I've downloaded iCab but haven't given it a good trial yet.
- Spidra Webster
Are most of your problems with this specific website you do business with?
- Mac64
Right - I'm trying to find a browser that won't crash as much or have these issues... what about flock?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Mac64 - no... for instance I thought Twitter was being wonky as usual, but then I learned today from a mashable or Techcrunch article that Firefox 3.5 was not playing nice with Twitter...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I have not been able to update Twitter directly from the web in over a week or longer.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Could try an older version of Firefox. Here is the most recent 3.0 version. http://bit.ly/vA0aX
- Mac64
How do I get rid of the 3.5 version? Will 3.0 replace it?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Never tried downgrading firefox, so i can't speak from experience what issues this may cause, sry.
- Mac64
What about Omniweb - haven't tried that in a while... last time I tried it out it was buggy...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Never tried it. With Firefox, you can try launching by typing /Applications/Firefox.app/Contents/MacOS/firefox -safe-mode into Terminal to see if extensions are causing problems with your browsing. This will launch FF without any extensions. Alternatively, you can hold "Option" down when clicking on the Firefox icon. It will give you various startup options.
- Mac64
I'm using the alpha Chrome right now on OS X and it's great. Sometimes Flash crashes though, but Youtube works :-)
- Stelian Iancu
This Week In Google 3: There's A Command Line For That - http://twit.tv/twig3
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I am listening the show now. This was the first I'd heard of Jeff's cancer. I hope he is able to beat it. Good luck, Jeff!
- Jared Mehle
Keep Positive Jeff!... Leo over the last 2 days i have found you again i wondered what happened after the TechTV Bullshit man i miss you guys..... But i love your podcasts.......I have been following Pirillo for awhile and now i have found u again thanks bro keep up the good work.
- DrUnKeN_TiGeR
Great show! Have you considered offering the podcasts as embeds?
- Benjamin Taylor
Leo: when does the episode appear in iTunes?
- Stelian Iancu
Comic book quiz: What do these two characters have in common?
Wolverine's son and the Hulk's son? Their fathers are long-established Marvel characters?
- Adewale Oshineye
You got it :)
- Philipp Lenssen
They're both ugly? :-)
- Stelian Iancu
Is Twitter down for anyone else?
Twitter is down.
- Louis Gray
yes
- WorldofHiglet
Yes, check the Twitter room.
- Liz
no just you - weird huh?
- martin gover
yep
- OakleighVermont
Yeah. Down.
- Stelian Iancu
from iPhone
http://istwitterdown.com yes :)
- 1Fathi
Down here too (Montreal)
- Bill Rodman
too bad we can't move followers over!
- OakleighVermont
...it's down here, for me, SFO
- .LAG liked that
You've been singled out. :)
- Jeff Hurt
Sigh. Yes. This is sadness once again. Time for a quadruple espresso.
- Kelly Olexa
I can't get it either.
- justine walshe
Twitter is 'Responding to site downtime' http://status.twitter.com/post...
- Yung-Hui Lim
Panic tweets coming in (slow load): http://onWave.com/twitterdown
- Gus
Yep
- Roberto Bonini
Yeah. FriendFeed is the failover node of Twitter.
- Tomi Itkonen
just back now!
- Gautam Ghosh
Amazon.co.uk:anotherworldsf Storefront - http://www.amazon.co.uk/shops...
books
- Stelian Iancu
My Greatest iPhone Development Resource - http://www.theflyingjalapenolives.com/2009...
Nice list of iPhone Development blogs
- Stelian Iancu
AQXMLParser == Big Memory Win - http://quatermain.tumblr.com/post...
Cool xml parser for the iPhone.
- Stelian Iancu
should i buy buddyfeed or wait until after new FF launches? http://itunes.apple.com/WebObje...
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I'd wait
- Keith - @tsudo
wait
- BEX
I just have a ff link in my Iphone menu. FF works well on Iphone without buying anything.
- BEX
Wait. Buddyfeed is clunky.
- Aaron Hood
I'd also wait.
- Stelian Iancu
Wait. I bought buddyfeed, found it easier to just use the FF webapp.
- David Young
I know I have already commented, but I agree with David. I still use BuddyFeed out of spite because I paid for it. And it sounds like the FF team understand that they need more mobile solutions to attract more users. (That's why I use Twitter a lot because there are awesome apps for Twitter on the iPhone)
- Aaron Hood
use motherfeed
- attila erbilir
I use Nambu and I haven't had any issues. It's a free iPhone app as well as Mac client (no windows)
- brainno722 (Peter)
I second the vote for Nambu, love love love it! (I'm not affiliated) Just discovered it yesterday.
- Jason
is it back up yet? is it back up yet? Is it.......
Alp liked this
what? :-)
- Stelian Iancu
ah, the apple store ...
- Stelian Iancu
Putting more emphasis on the discussion?
Adewale Oshineye liked this
Any idea what happens if somebody comments on stuff you wrote; does the text pop up on top? Also, what if somebody comments on somebody else's stuff where you commented as well? Does it come on top or not?
- Stelian Iancu
PS: Only the home room (being default) would be title-less. This way the top current news would literally be the top/ left thing on the page.
- Philipp Lenssen
Gizmodo - Giz Explains: All The Smartphone Mobile App Stores - Mobile app stores - http://i.gizmodo.com/5199933...
excellent overview of the App stores
- Jonathan Greene
from Bookmarklet
Nice. I wonder how many customers will be totally lost with all these. Also, take into account that all the major operators will have their own effin' store.
- Stelian Iancu
How Is It Possible That Motorola's New CEO Earned The Highest Salary Of All CEO's In 2008? - http://www.informationweek.com/blog...
he's an asshole?
- Jonathan Greene
fooled the board?
- Stelian Iancu
Completion Dictionary - http://www.obdev.at/product...
Nice Xcode plugin with lots of macros and code completion.
- Stelian Iancu
CocoaDev: CocoaDev - http://www.cocoadev.com/
Wiki about Cocoa Development.
- Stelian Iancu
Cocoabuilder - Mail archive - http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive...
cocoa-dev mailing list archive
- Stelian Iancu
0xced: QuietXcode - http://0xced.blogspot.com/2008...
Nice XCode plugin to supress some annoying warnings.
- Stelian Iancu
A link has been added to the drop dailysourcecode. - http://drop.io/dailyso...
Eddie, what were you saying about France? :-)
- Stelian Iancu
iPhone NDA dropped, developers rejoice - http://www.tuaw.com/2008...
YEAH!!!
- Stelian Iancu
One bug report to rule them all - http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/2008...
Priceless ... :-)
- Stelian Iancu
FriendFeed iPhone interface - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
Sonya Smith, Bill Sodeman, John Cooper and 33 other people liked this
"Liked" from my iPhone.
- Andrew Meyer
same here :)
- Brett Kelly
i like it from my PSP: i think look fine in the PSP screen!!!
- Javier Valiño
good job
- kang
Works quite nicely. Good job
- Dave Rutter
Using the iPhone interface from Nokia N810. Works great! Congrats!
- Stelian Iancu
can't login to FF using my blackberry pearl 8100
- David Silvernail
Maybe its just me, but I can't seem to find an add button to add people to my friends on the iPhone interface. Maybe I'm missing it?
- Beau Liening
I just found this yesterday by coincidence and loved it!
- scott willeke
can you add a subscribe button for the iPhone page???
- Colide81 (James)
Yes I subscribe button please.
- Svartling
Okay that's the /i sorted how about /m? It was looking really good at first but then the style sheet came in and it changed to be a lot larger and too wide. Back to fftogo.com
- John Cooper
nokia n810 - symbian assisted gps beta - http://dailymobile.se/2008...
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i upgraded my n810 to diablo, and installed a-gps betait still takes me forever and a day to get a gps lock, if ever. does ur location in the world play a part? .
- Alphonsus Lee
hmmm, wouldn't think so... where are you?
- torr
i'm in singapore. i've installed a-gps beta, and moved the location pointer to the singapore region. but the gps still takes forever. is there some config file that i have to edit manually to get gps cranking?
- Alphonsus Lee
a-gps shall work Ok in Singapore - send feedback to A-GPS project on betalabs http://www.nokia.com/A41163987 btw, do you have wifi or gprs/3g working while try to lock GPS? without that A-GPS is helpless
- A.T.
@silpol: gprs/3g? on the n810? how? :-)
- Stelian Iancu
I find it very confusing that people tend to say "connected" - this is very old paradigm. for TCP/IP networks they prefer to say "has at least default gateway working" meaning that packets originated on your host (here it is N810) can go out and reach server. The fact it is bluetooth works as wireless *wire* between N810 and some phone , or whether it is WiFi - it doesn't matter much
- A.T.
How often are we going to see iPhone apps released? whenever someone's submission is accepted and released or on regular intervals like a Wiiware title or a Tuesday album release?
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I would hope there is a steady daily stream of new apps, one day a week would cause too many good apps to be overshadowed by "big name" apps that will get all of the attention
- Grant
Let's hope there will be an easy way to see all the new apps.
- Stelian Iancu
The last.fm was released yesterday on the App Store, so I'm guessing that there's no particular day. That might change once the launch frenzy is over.
- Fox Tucker
FYI: Useful direct link to the page of new apps in the iTunes Store: tinyurl.com/newiphoneapps. Details: efficientmd.blogspot.com/2008/07/link-to-all-iphone-applications-in-app.html
- Joshua Schwimmer
I scaled my bag down to limit what I carry around and have still manage to have 6 phones, 2 media players, an internet tablet and my lap ...
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Holy cow! How can you manage with all that?
- Stelian Iancu
some room for consolidation there i think!
- Steve 'Chippy' Paine
I know it is out of control ... Will be scaling back and packing the bag tonight
- Jonathan Greene
! 6 phones... I wouldn't even know what to do with two phones. Okay, maybe I could do with 2 phones (basically using one as a net-enabled camera), but 6 is well...you know already.
- Cheryl Jones
Awesome. I had to stop carrying a bluetooth keyboard and tekkeonl battery so can fit 3 more cameras.
- Rodfather
Anyone have any experience (good or bad) with either the Nokia N800 or the N810? Thanks.
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I have strictly played with the n810 briefly, nothing in depth. And I really like the device, at the time I had received an ipod touch and wanted to compare the two to see which one I would like to have. The n810 is so much more robust than the ipod touch but I never went through with selling the touch and buying an n810. I think I would be much more interested in the WiMax version since you could have a persistent data connection.
- J Allen
I'm considering buying a N810, but only to put Android on it.
- Tödd Nëmët
Thanks Globecode, that's exactly my situation, the Touch or the N810. The keyboard is a big one for me on the N810, and the GPS is a plus but not a need. There really isn't much else like it until you get to the micro laptops, and I am trying to avoid a smartphone based on the increase in service fees. Thanks for the info.
- cmiper
No prob. If you already have the touch you should at least wait until firmware 2.0 comes out and see what kind of apps are available, that will be a big determining factor in whether it will become more useful or not.
- J Allen
I don't have the touch, I have been back and forth between the two. Side question, iPhone/iPod touch January update vs July update? Another purchase, or an upgrade to the upgrade? Asking because the touch can be had for a decent price without the January update on it, if the July update will do, I may go that route.
- cmiper
I paid for the Jan update, didn't really do anything special except that I have liked being able to rent movies through itunes for travelling. The apps are all things that can be done within the browser and since you have to have internet access for the apps to be useful, it probably isn't worth it. I never jailbroke the touch, although I have friends who have and love it. They actually use it daily as sort of a entertainment/pda, even a couple that have a smartphone. more below
- J Allen
The July update hasn't been released yet but if the app store has great apps then I think it is definitely worth getting. I don't do a lot of gaming but this would become a great gaming device if great games are built for it. Good question on the upgrade, don't know if it would be just $9.95 or if you would have to pay the extra $20 as well. I'll twitter the question and see if I get an answer.
- J Allen
Thanks Globecode. The 16GB version can be had for 340$ without the January update...the 8GB for 249$. I was thinking about going that route and even if I have to pay for the Jan update, I would still be under the retail cost of the updated models. I would be relying heavily on the apps, mostly browsing, email, etc...dare I say, maybe even as much as I would be using it for multimedia. That's the main reason why I was originally leaning towards the N810, and the KB and GPS were the big draw there...
- cmiper
I have now seen a lot of complaints about the GPS, it's slowness, lack of lock-on, and that you have to buy the software for it to be useful, so I have ruled that out as a determining factor. Now it's just the keyboard, and I think I can get over that as well ;-) To top it off, even the 8gb touch has much more storage available for almost 100$ less than the N810. I will def. need to use either device for storage as well. Can you tell which way I am leaning at this point? ;-) Thanks again for your help!
- cmiper
Well I never got an answer to my tweet (replies were off, so it was kind of hard) and I also posted the question over at ilounge which wasn't answered.
- J Allen
Thanks Globecode. After messing around with the touch, n810 and Mylo2 this weekend, I think I've made up my mind, though I am going to wait for the software update to come out before deciding which model I will buy. ;-) Thanks for all your help.
- cmiper
@nemet you have to keep in mind that (strictly speaking) you can't get full Android specs compliant stuff on N810/n800 hardware - at least 3D acceleration will be not available (not our fault, blame IPR lawyers ;)
- A.T.
as for "GPS slowness" - since Diablo release few days ago, there is A-GPS (assisted GPS) support via mobile/cellular or WiFi, so you don't have to wait till satellites start to downstream corrections once per hour, so one can speed up locking on satellites. Also I do suggest you to consider Maemo Mapper as free/open-source alternative to Nokia/Wayfinder proprietory mapping solution.
- A.T.
as I work in the team developed 770/N800/N810 I can _give_a_try_ to answer your questions, but please try to formulate them less ambiguous. My personal choice is N800 over N810 but... I am not that addicted to chat (no need in keyboard), don't have car and even if I need map, I use external GPS (LD-4W Nokia); no interest in Wimax (we have no WiMax in Finland and most probably will skip it as technology); and my favourite one is that N800 have two SD card slots (both internal and external)
- A.T.
@silpol: can you please comment more on "3D acceleration will be not available" in Android on N8xx?
- Stelian Iancu
Thanks for the info silpol. A few questions if you don't mind. The A-GPS, will it work with any GPS capable phone, or is it specific to Nokia? Is the GPS (non A-GPS) just slow on the initial lock, or is it even when traveling, meaning, if you were to drive in a car, would the realtime GPS be useless? Lastly, I know the new OS/firmware release makes it easier to push further updates, but does that mean there *will* be future updates? I would hate to invest and then see dev discontinued. Thanks!
- cmiper
I bought a second hand N800 a few months ago. It's definitely a nice device, especially the touch screen and applications that utilized that in a smart way. I personally hated typing on the touch screen, though, and the slowness of some apps.Therefore, I suppose the N810 would suit my needs better (faster + real keyboard).
- roel
@cmiper From looking at the Apple site this morning it looks like $9.95 gets you both the 2.0 software and the updates from the January release. Nice deal for sure.
- J Allen
Thanks Globecode. I wound up getting work to foot the bill on the N810 as I will be able to use it for RDP/VNC and a few other connections and services that will assist me here. I am still eyeballing the iPod touch for me, but I think it's going to be a bit down the road, as we are getting into new phone contracts now too. Thanks for everyone's help!
- cmiper
please update us on what you think about it, i definitely am interested.
- J Allen
Well, so far so great! As silpol stated above, the new version of the OS came out a couple weeks ago. I ran it first with the old version to get used to it a bit, then updated the OS a few hours later, and it was a *very* big improvement on the speed and multi-tasking. Most of the complaints I have read, were resolved with the update. Some of the third party apps aren't up to the current OS, but that has only affected one app for me so far (Canola2). I will be heavily testing the GPS this weekend.
- cmiper
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