1. People who ONLY Twitter have a high propensity for much more noise than signal. Those who are best? Those who post to a lot of different services, and who blog often.
- Robert Scoble
2. People who change their avatar from the default are more likely to have signal than those who don't.
- Robert Scoble
Is this more of a "early-adopter" feed?
- Kyle Lacy
3. Past results are best predictors of future results. As I look through my list of people who have fed a lot of "signal" into the system, like Tim O'Reilly, they have done a lot more signal in past week than most people in my list of about 3,300 people I'm following.
- Robert Scoble
4. Those who use graphics in their FF posts are far more likely to have signal than others.
- Robert Scoble
If you publish it, we can call it the S-list :)
- Charlie Anzman
5. My list is very male heavy, and I went looking for women who feed good tech news to their friends. Looking to balance that out, will watch over next week to see if I can find anyone on the "Everyone" feed.
- Robert Scoble
6. This hand-picked list is WAY better than the feed from the 3,300 people I subscribe to. MUCH lower noise (for me) and much better stuff, and easier to find the good stuff (again, in my opinion). I don't like cat photos and there are a LOT fewer cat photos on this feed.
- Robert Scoble
I guess one persons noise is another persons signal though.
- Ian May
7. This feed does NOT match what is "popular" on FriendFeed right now. Very little politics. Very few "goofy posts." No Bacon. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Kyle: I don't see it as an early adopter feed, more of people who talk mostly about tech. But, yeah, I'd guess that it is very heavy on early adopter types. You can see what I like here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Ian, that is absolutely true. My brother thinks my list is boring. I'd guess that Mona won't "Like" a whole lot of stuff on my list.
- Robert Scoble
Ahh no bacon? Thanks for the clarification, Robert.
- Kyle Lacy
I didn't say that your list is boring. I just said that a lot of the noise is fun. That doesn't mean that tech stuff (as long as it's not a lot of blah blah blah on blogging, web 2.0 and social media) isn't interesting. Personally, I'd like to see a home theater list, but that's just me.
- Alex Scoble
Robert - I don't 'like' stuff that is echoed since I only need to read headlines / news once. ;)
- Mona Nomura
I'd probably post more tech-oriented stuff because I'm very tech-oriented but it requires a lot of work 'keeping up with the Joneses' trying to out-scoop people who are far more well-connected than I or trying to shout my useless opinion louder than the next 'tech blogger'. So I try to have fun on FriendFeed in other ways. I do see, though, that FriendFeed has changed significantly since the old days when it was almost all tech-oriented. Now it's bacon, pirates, mangoes, and a variety of memes.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
- Akiva Moskovitz
I made an effort to cut down on my 'echoes' soon after I joined FF. It bugged me to see stuff appearing multiple times, so I know it must have everyone else. I don't feed feed Twitter or Tumblr into here now.
- Ian May
Couldn't you just have not subscribed to 3300 people to begin with? Seems rather silly now that you're culling it back to people you actually want to listen to.
- Jason Carreira
I like the mix of the fun with the other stuff. I've also discovered some great stuff out here that I might never have known about...or at the very least, it wouldn't have come to my attention this quickly. There is still enough tech for me.
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Jason: I am NOT cutting back. I still like my main feed, but for other stuff, like tonight I'm following the emmys there. But it's now very noisy because that's how things go. Plus, I never would have known who to put in my special list if I hadn't followed so many to start out with.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, in an era in which online conversation is becoming so vital, you are playing such an interesting role, helping us to see what's possible.
- John McCrea
Friendfeed needs to be smart enough to figure out which posts from which users are most relevant for each user.
- Sean McBride
Agree with Sean. Also, Robert is right: one has to have high statistical sample - big numbers of followings - to get a better tailored smaller sample! I like to have cats and bacon but my interests are further including tech, business (a lot of my posts) and politics (not that many but still).
- Hayk H.
Looking forward to seeing the list, Robert. I try to filter through the news and feed specific news to my friends. Since I blog about LA tech, I try to filter through the major blogs and feed LA news through Twitter. It would be cool if more people were doing that for other regions.
- Calley Nye
"I was blown away with how fast they were! We had a delicious large barbecue chicken pizza in 15 minutes!! On a Saturday night, at like 8 pm. The pizza was delicious, I would definitely recommend…"
- Calley Nye
seems cute. do you have an invite code?
- Calley Nye
Calley, I've asked for one (since they are the one that asked me to add them to the Go2 directory), I'll let you know as soon as I have it.
- Orli Yakuel
"iRing allows you to control playback and volume on any of your Apple media devices. iRing features a bright OLED status display with a touch-sensitive funtion strip, and a rechargeable battery life of up to 12 hours"
- Mona Nomura
from Bookmarklet
If the battery isn't user-replaceable, it'd be an ominous choice for a wedding ring. Most folks in the US end up trading their spouses in as it is...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
In Steve's office he has a diamond button on his desk which he presses and we all do his bidding. And yes, iWant.
- Adam Turetzky
Click on the "me" tab. That shows YOU what YOU posted. But then click on the "comments" and "like" links over on the right. That shows you what you commented on, or liked. Well, unless you're looking at the me tab on MY account!
- Robert Scoble
what are the best apps? just installed MySocial 24x7 the FF3 sidebar, also playing aroung with Feedalizr and Alert Thingy
- Tomas Nihlen
Don't miss the "Show best of." These will show you the most popular FF items of the day, week, or month. Great way to get up to speed on what gets discussed here (and to find some new people to subscribe to).
- Robert Scoble
only thing is: (and like to emphasize that: I simply miss Twitter!) Come to think of it; can we, as long as Twitter's down, do a Miss Twitter Election?
- Adri Munier
One day you like Twitter, the other day you hate it huh? ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Comment often. Like often. These are signals to other people that you found an item engaging and important. Soon you'll find that we're also engaging on YOUR items.
- Robert Scoble
Make sure you add all your feeds. Flickr photos. Upcoming events. Twitter (so we'll know when it's back up and be able to discuss your best tweets). Your Digg and Del.icio.us accounts. And lots more. The more you put into FriendFeed the more people will engage with you.
- Robert Scoble
Is this planned maintenance or more of the same? I am trying to come up with reasons why FF should continue to take second place and I still can't work it out. What am I missing? Twitter's simplicity? I just don't see Twitter as an effective conversation tool. It seems more appropriate as a one way communication tool.
- Paul Jacobson
from twhirl
Don't miss the "more" menu under each cluster. It does a lot. It also lets you delete comments if you start a cluster, link to a cluster, and, well, more.
- Robert Scoble
Click the icons off to the left. Click a Flickr one, for instance, and you'll see all the Flickr photos from everyone you're following. Hint: if you want to see ALL Flickr photos from EVERYONE, click on the "everyone" tab first, then click the icons.
- Robert Scoble
I've been resistant to this. I like the simplicity of twitter. However, I also like being on a network that actually works, so maybe it's time to go ff full time.
- Adam Christie
This is a good, short intro for FF newbies. Wish someone had posted a similar note when I first joined. FF is a bit murkier than Twitter for new users. I also found http://frienderati.alltop.com/ to be very helpful.
- sage brennan
When you get tired of seeing a particular FriendFeed item, just click "hide." Don't worry, that just hides it from your view. You can see hidden items at the bottom of the page.
- Robert Scoble
The squeaky friends get the grease ;-)
- Paul Short
Click on "Friend Settings." There's some cool stuff in there. This is where you can see who is subscribed to you, who you are subscribed to, some cool stats (useful after you like and comment on a bunch of stuff to learn who you like the best) and some ways to find new friends to subscribe to. Just don't subscribe to that Scoble guy, he's very noisy!
- Robert Scoble
Once in a while you'll see a jerk in here. Here's how to deal with them: visit their page, then at the top you'll see a link titled "Block." Don't be afraid to block jerks. That helps keep the community clean of drama for everyone. Heck, don't be afraid to block me if you don't want to see me anymore. You define yourself by who you follow and who you allow into your life. One thing: you can still see people you blocked in the "Everyone" tab. They will still show up in searches you do there.
- Robert Scoble
Feel free to use the hide button as you read items, even if it is a topic your interested in. Don't worry, if more conversation occurs on the topic, it will pop back up in your feed again. I like to use this to "clear" the screen, so it isn't so cluttered and I am not re-reading something I have already seen.
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
I like Twitter and will go back as soon as it's up. I used to look at it as FriendFeed vs. Twitter. It's not. They both work great together. FriendFeed is much nicer place to have a conversation.
- Robert Scoble
The best thing I ever did was to add a few greasemonkey plugins like the one that removes viewed links and filter by service. It's OK now.
- Calley Nye
FriendFeed's worst attribute is that it rewards people who visit often. Click "F5" to refresh your browser's page. This is especially important if you're following lots of people, or are watching the "Everyone" page (it changes every few seconds).
- Robert Scoble
Is someone posting too much information? You can "filter" content by service for a user, or by a service for all users. Click the hide button, then click 'See options for hiding other items like this'
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Do a search under the Everyone tab for your city name to find FFs and topics from your local area. This ain't just a San Fran Soical party!
- Johnny Worthington
I agree with Robert - FriendFeed has almost become the "home" page in my browser. Invariably it's sat in my browser most of the day... sure, it could be improved (grouping of contacts into channels), but it's very, very good...
- Jonathan Beckett
Oh one more thing....what's the deal with rooms? Do you have to make your own or can you find existing ones?
- Calley Nye
@scoble but doesnt FF refresh automatically? whats the interval on the auto refresh?
- Sebastian Keil
Even if you don't have an iPhone (I have a KU990), try fftogo.com. It works on most java enabled phone browsers and is a great way to fill in time when in lines
- Johnny Worthington
Friendfeed defaults to showing not only the content of those who you are subscribed to, but items that were found interesting by your friends by other people. This is called 'Friend of a Friend' - If you would rather not see these entries, click 'Hide' on one of them, then use 'See more options for hiding items like this' - there will be an option to hide items from Friends of your Friend.
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Sebastian: FF does refresh automatically, but not fast enough for me. So I manually refresh it every few seconds.
- Robert Scoble
Calley: I'm subscribed to a bunch of rooms (mostly cause people invite me in). They haven't become very useful to me yet, although I'm noticing a few are getting more active lately. You can see the ones I'm subscribed to by visiting my FF at http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and clicking over on the right side.
- Robert Scoble
FF is more than a aggrigator site, it's the true social. Just don't find links and publish photos, discuss them and share in the collective power of community.
- Johnny Worthington
@Calley Nye (siliconcalley): You can make your own rooms if you want, or you can join others. Currently, its not immediately apparent where to find existing rooms, but there is a number of sites that have friendfeed room listings. You can also search google with something like: twitter site:friendfeed.com/rooms - I also recommend joining this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
if Twitter was micro-blogging, would FF be classed as macro-blogging?
- Johnny Worthington
@scobleizer Terrific overview/ welcome message regarding FriendFeed, is it possible to move this into it's own room? You are imparting some great information here, don't want to see it turn to vapor.
- michael sean wright
So basically you have to know the cool people to get invited to the dance. I like it...
- Calley Nye
Welcome everyone! Robert pretty much summed it up beautifully. I bring a little Gizmodo-ness into a more Engadget-esque Friend Feed ;) I'm Mona, nice to meet you all! This link will take you to the bookmarklet, which enables sharing links, images, and videos. It goes right on your browser toolbar. Extremely useful :) : http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Mona Nomura
Confused? Ask questions. Very few of us bite. Welcome.
- Chris Baskind
Use the recommend and subscribe to as many people as you want. The more people you subscribe then the greater the diversity of conversations.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
OMG, i didn't know there's a Scoble script allowing FF users to add Scobleizer in a tab on FriendFeed. http://bit.ly/dRo2L
- Nir Ben Yona
A big +1 for Mona's link to the bookmarklet, that's a really sticky way of getting involved with FF - share stuff, then share again, then share some more!
- Iain Baker
The reason I'm actually using FriendFeed right now (besides because Twitter is down) is that I was researching for a post. A really cool tool called Moopz - just posted http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Calley Nye
Whoa please don't tell me this conversation ended because Twitter went back up. LOL
- Calley Nye
...I think it was because you said you're only using FF since Twitter is down ;) -but on a serious note, after a certain number of comments the post no longer gets 'bumped' so I don't think people are aware there are new comments added on the thread
- Mona Nomura
You clicked 199 times in 30 seconds. Your caffeine level for today is: Near Death - Delusions of Godlike power
- Louis Gray
You clicked 168 times in 30 seconds Your caffeine level for today is: Extremely High - Excessive Energy, Spastic @LG: you're a machine. seriously.
- Mona Nomura
Nice! 173 times in 30 secs (Extremely High - Excessive Energy, Spastic) ... even after 3 beers at lunch.
- Scott Wamsley
Mona, I'm just using the MacBook Pro trackpad.
- Louis Gray
clicked 227 times in 30 seconds - "Near Death - Delusions of Godlike power" - i guess i shouldn't head out and cut the grass - should spend the last few remaining minutes with loved ones.
- Kevin Cearns
LG: I tried with my trackpad (macbook) and the highest is 197.. My desk is shaking LOL @Kevin: PROOF PLEASE
- Mona Nomura
Very High - Productive Worker, Jittery... I had one of those big bottles of Starbucks Cold Coffee drink things this morning... too much bean
- Internet's Tad
You clicked 246 times in 30 seconds. Your caffeine level for today is: Near Death - Delusions of Godlike power
- Corie
221 times in 30 seconds - and I have never touched Caffeine in my life. I call this test fake with language that censors itself 'coz I'm supposed to see/hear/feel only NC17 stuff.
- Yuvi
Is 7 a bad score or did I just realize that I have ADD? ;)
- Kevin C. Tofel
Since it appears that there are lots of Caffeine gods here - can I ask why you drink coffee? I've heard that it's addictive, but benificial too - so, should I risk it and get addicted? thoughts?
- Yuvi
LOL@TAD! It's called a natural high (caffeinated)
- Mona Nomura
224 times in 30 seconds. Most of time flash plugin was unable to follow click speed. I hate Flash & Adobe and all mice-dragging-pseudosoftware for keeping me less productive. Long live keyboard and command line interface. Test has been done on Nokia N800 ;)
- A.T.
Yuvi, this is actually a low caffeine day for me - two cups :-). I hit 246 on my last try - i recently picked up an Apple Mighty Mouse and hadn't noticed till today that it has some awesome responsiveness.
- Kevin Cearns
You clicked 170 times in 30 seconds. Your caffeine level for today is: Extremely High - Excessive Energy, Spastic
- Alex Sauceda
Just watch a little kid, like 5 or 6 years old, and tell me they don't have natural caffiene... Once you hit like 26 or 27 and for sure by 30 all that natural stuff is gone. Drinking coffee before 30 is kinda redundant. :D
- Internet's Tad
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"I recently started working up here, so I am not familiar with other places. Someone in the office ordered some for everybody, and I had the salmon teriyaki wrap. Heavenly! I have been dying to go…"
- Calley Nye
All: an API client malfunctioned or intentionally spammed with these comments. We disabled that API client to prevent the problem, and we are reaching out to the developer.
- Bret Taylor
It is amazing like such a simple concept like Friendfeed could turn into something so complex, so complete. What is even more amazing is seeing how Twitter had it all and was able to go down in such an idiotic way.
- Rodrigo Leme
Refugees unite - tear down the walls of single vendor-ness - break though the barriers of 140 characters - unite in your FriendFeed-liness!
- Marc Canter
I tried Alert Thingy most of the day today. I've come back to twhirl... like it... keepin' it!
- BlueMoonMultimedia
from twhirl
Thanks for sharing this! Glad you enjoyed it. :)
- Calley Nye
epiphany: a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into the reality or essential meaning of something, usually initiated by some simple, homely, or commonplace occurrence or experience. (Which happens a lot online thanks my social network!
- paisano
from twhirl
"i like it, but changing the interface now could be damaging to them in the long run. its like losing an old friend. siliconcalley.wordpress.com"
- Calley Nye