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Finding Value Even If I Were the Last FriendFeeder... - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
Mitchell Tsai, Bertrand Doux, Saurier Duval and 47 other people liked this
Don't worry Louis. I'll be here to hold your hand as we go over the cliff Thelma & Louise style. ;)
- Cristo
Can I be Brad Pitt then?
- Johnny Worthington
You can be whomever you like, Johnny. And Cristo, thanks. You complete me. (wrong movie?)
- Louis Gray
Johnny, post a photo of you with just your cowboy hat on, and we'll talk about it.
- Cristo
Dude, I just stuck LEGO in my face http://friendfeed.com/jworthi... don't tempt me :)
- Johnny Worthington
I am too competitive to let you be the last
- Jesse Stay
The last to stick LEGO in his face?
- Ken Sheppardson
I left my comment on the blog.
- Mark Krynsky
Agreed Louis. I am still getting new subscriptions on FF ( though not as many as before). FF stays open until the fat lady sings.
- Roberto Bonini
You made very good points, Louis - both why FF has not been surpassed as a solution and why you stating these points is important. Real time has slowed for me in FF so I can actually catch the content and I'm still getting new subscribers. The value I derive from FF is undiminished.
- WorldofHiglet
You had me at "Finding", Louis. ;)
- Grey Drane
Finding Louis? Is that the sequel to Finding Nemo?
- WorldofHiglet
I so crashed with that not entered big reply, making a post with two OS in virtualization for a screenshot... I'll get back atcha for the usual Disqus thoughtful exercise, I'm not the daily blogger, but I have lots of those ranged comments... my point was with the "even if it's assumed I'm looking denial straight in the face." being an excellent turning for that movie. Finding Louis...
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- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
Oh, good. For a moment there I thought we were in trouble.
- Uncle CW™
You're absolutely right. Which is why I'm sticking around, too.
- Dennis Jernberg
You hit the nail on the head.. that's why I'm staying onboard!!
- Chris Myles
You won't be .... I will ... (and Windows 7 was my idea ..... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Good work, Louis, as always.
- Jim Addz No Value
If Friendfeed went under, it would have to be immediately reinvented. I'm still not getting why so many people don't yet get Friendfeed.
- Sean McBride
This seems really straightfwd - the 20% time won't be enough to implement new features etc. I think it is just a matter of time until someone builds on top of the FF API with new/addtl features and launches a site (hmmm, "FriendDig"? "DigFeed"?). The functionality is too compelling to waste away
- Dave Hodson
Are there still no FriendFeed Bookmarklet that works on the iPhone? The official one only works on a computer.
Roberto Bonini and mjc liked this
official one works for me, just not the text selection part
- mjc
official one works on iPhone. Who said it doesn't?
- vijay
from NoiseRiver
Yeah, works fine for me, too. See this example: http://friendfeed.com/simplyg... -- Did this entirely in Safari on my iPhone. I copied the selected text, but it appeared in the comment field automatically (without pasting). Not sure if that's necessary, but on my first try I didn't see the selected text, so I thought I'd copy and paste. Turned out the paste wasn't necessary.
- Grey Drane
@Svartling I'm not experiencing that issue.
- mjc
Oh, I see. Yeah, it is a little bit jumpy when the pop-up tries to resize or reposition, but I was able to edit fields without any undue complications.
- Grey Drane
BTW, realized that copying isn't necessary. I was probably just impatient the first time. It can take a couple of seconds for the selected text to appear in the comment field.
- Grey Drane
Hmm... Mashable sites do seem more problematic. I couldn't get the selected text thing to work at all, either automatically or by copy/paste. But editing fields did more or less work. I get some jumping problems right at first or when changing fields, but a second tap in the field usually gets me where I need to be to edit without problems.
- Grey Drane
Maybe. How would it work differently, though?
- Grey Drane
Hey, maybe we could hit up @simplytweet to add FF support to its in-app browser! ;)
- Grey Drane
BTW, what about e-mail to FF? Have you tried that? There is that possibility, isn't there?
- Grey Drane
Oh yeah. That's no good.
- Grey Drane
from IM
Yeah, I'm no developer, but I'm not sure I see what that would mean exactly. I'm not sure the problems are specific to the FF bookmarklet, but more to the way the pop-over window works, so I'm not sure what other method they could use.
- Grey Drane
I've got an answer from one of the friendfeed developers that they have taken notice of this.
- Svartling
Great!
- Grey Drane
from iPhone
Any update to this? The copy/paste seems to have stopped working for me with the latest iPhone OS updates.
- Alan Cheslow
Dear FF, give us tags like Google Reader does !
AJCann, Nir Ben Yona, Jemm and 22 other people liked this
There are hashtags.
- Burcu Dogan
which clutter up the message
- Marlin Forbes
In fact, I say replace hashtags with tags
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
In their own container, not part of the message.
- Marlin Forbes
Agreed, Marlin
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It's META-data, data about the data, it should not be in the data.
- Marlin Forbes
Check this out: I posted a note (without any link), and it's imported into FF here: http://friendfeed.com/highand...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It'd be cool if you could type the hash symbol before a keyword in the content for that word to be automatically added to the "Add tags" field. Then you could add other tags that aren't also a part of the content, but only when necessary. The problem with an extra field is that it's often not used (too much of a "hassle").
- Grey Drane
Grey, that's a good idea. Also, I like the way Google has implemented it. It's so ... clean.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Haven't used the Google Reader interface in a while since moving to Feedly. I'll check it out.
- Grey Drane
Definately that is the thing FF is missing - tags are very useful, especially when I'd liek to find some old messages based on poast topic. Please FF add separate tag field.
- Duszolap
+1 as I said .. http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- CantorJF
Tags should be hidden, yep.
- Kol Tregaskes
I agree - FF is missing tags wich are specialy useful when searching some old messages. Please give us tag support!
- Duszolap
I like the idea of tags in FF, I wouldn't want to give up the hashtag ability :) ... I see hashtags as adding context to signal in a way that helps others organize around ideas... if I had tags, I'd inevitably apply too many and then how would folks 'really' know what the key tag was?
- Holly Rae
#hashtags ftw! tags take up space on the screen whether they are part of the post or separate, might as well make them as integrated and simple as possible
- Mike Chelen
Is there a web service that works like twitterless but shows me my new followers each day/week?
Mike Bracco and Nilesh liked this
Checking the individual emails from Twitter each day is a pain! :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
I've been playing around with Kutano, which shows you follows/unfollows each day. If you want another Firefox add-on, that is....
- Grey Drane
Have Twitter send an email to you each time, filtered to a specific folder, that's how Louis Gay...I mean Gray does it too:)
- sofarsoShawn
Grey, I don't use FrF so no. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Shawn, I have the mails but going through them one by one is annoying.
- Kol Tregaskes
OK. Sometimes I'd like not to use FrF, too, but for now I still do.
- Grey Drane
from IM
I think NutShellMail does that.
- Iván Abrego
Kol, can I ask why you're interested in knowing who follows/unfollows each day? I'm not having a go at you, just generally interested in why it's a concern to you that you're looking at a service rather than email.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
No interested in unfollows, I'm interested in follows. I'd like to see who follows me and if they look OK I can follow them back. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
try refollow.com however, to keep track of it, you need to add / remove followers via refollow.com as well.. pretty awesome tools - better than frf
- Nilesh
I've used refollow but how do you show your new followers (ie. list people who follow you in order they have followed you)?
- Kol Tregaskes
One reason I'll miss FriendFeed if & when: my gf can access FF at work, but not Facebook or Twitter. (one benefit of "unpopularity")
"Relative" unpopularity... or relative anonymity, I should say.
- Grey Drane
Apparently her work's firewall doesn't block FF yet, but does just about all the other popular social networks.
- Grey Drane
May that day never come
- Christopher Galtenberg
Starmap - Pocket Planetarium for iPhone & iPod Touch - http://www.star-map.fr/
Taylan Kılıç, Gürhan Demirel, sofarsoShawn and 5 other people liked this
STARMAP is a pocket planetarium, using the breath taking technologies of the iPhone. It brings the present and future sky map at the tip of your fingers, at any time, anywhere. With the new iPhone 3GS compass, Starmap displays exactly the portion of the sky you are pointing at. Hold the device parallel to your line of vision and discover the map smoothly scanning the sky as you move.
- Christopher Harley
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, gotta get me a 3GS one of these days soon. The 3G is sooooo last week!
- Grey Drane
Don't worry Grey. You can still yell, "Get off my lawn!" while you're scopin' out the Crab Nebula.
- Christopher Harley
PSPgo Review: A Peek Into the Future of Gaming - PspGo - Kotaku - http://kotaku.com/5369359...
daveccorey, Jason A. Samfield, Raphael, Raphael and 11 other people liked this
"Smaller, easier to use and completely devoid of a disc drive of any sort, the PSPgo is powered only by digital media, a brave step into the future of gaming. But is it a future in which we want to live?"
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
But the PSP was the only handheld console to have a disc drive.
- Raphael, Raphael
PSP go is horrible. Not because of Digital Distribution. (Which they are charging too much for) But because of the systems flawed design. The top screen is more heavy making an un natural balance which strains your hand. Not to mention the layout. Games like Monster hunter are impossible because of the horrible placement of the D-Pad. The console has a battery that cannot be removed...
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- Devin
Just by looking at it I would think the controls are too low and would make holding the unit *and* using the controls difficult. Perhaps it's too complicated a design and the controls should have been moved to the sides and/or further up. Is there some sort of grip on the back or is it flat? A grip would help the current design.
- Kol Tregaskes
Sure about the price but neither the Wii or PS3 are portable. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Not sure fully portable gaming of any kind is a great idea. Sure, make a universal controller that plays on screens in homes, cars, airplanes, etc., but being able to play video games just any ol' where can get pretty darn anti-social. :)
- Grey Drane
maybe the future of portable gaming but not of casual gaming - it's just too clumsy to have a separate dedicated device for that. An iPhone on the other hand seems well suited.
- winckel
yeah, nice distinction. That's more or less what I had in mind, too: serious gaming vs. just playing the odd game on an iPhone now and then. Serious gaming really needs a bigger screen anyway, doesn't it?
- Grey Drane
from IM
If I played a game on my mobile it would be some of out game-control buttons or attachment. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
a questo mondo fanno ancora i corsi di Excel.. e io devo anche parteciparci... ho sonno
invece di perdere tempo con Excel, perché non ti fai un bel corso d'inglese...? :P
- Grey Drane
perchè non mi insegni.,.....
- fairyanna
ah giusto. Allora mercoledì, dopo le altre cosine che dobbiamo fare... cominciamo le lezioni d'inglese. :)
- Grey Drane
from IM
voglio emigrare
Ah hah! Adesso ho capito tutto.... :P
- Grey Drane
"Is the Large Is the Large Hadron Collider worth its massive price tag?" I like the article's conclusion... - http://www.guardian.co.uk/science...
"The Large Hadron Collider might well be the last machine of its kind that ever gets built. But the fact that it was built is extremely heartening. This is a machine so large it takes hours to jog around. It cost billions of Euros and took many years to build. That governments were willing to pay for it, with no idea what it might or might not find, speaks volumes about the price society is willing to pay to understand more about our place in the universe."
- Grey Drane
from Bookmarklet
quale strana legge della natura ti fa mettere i sandali quando farà freddo e le scarpe per farti morire dal caldo?
CptUncino liked this
Fai come fanno le donne americane e tieniti un paio di scarpe (e/o sandali) nella scrivania in ufficio... ;) Tante arrivano in ufficio con le scarpe da ginnastica e poi le cambiano. Mah...!
- Grey Drane
regola del lunedì.qualsiasi cosa tu dica, per quanto chiaramente tu la dica, sarà fraintesa da qualcuno.
Hmmmm..... :P
- Grey Drane
News + Insights: Facebook's @ Tagging in Status Updates - http://www.penn-olson.com/2009...
"Just 12 hours ago, we saw Facebook treating Twitter’s @ tagging feature as its own. The feature has enabled Twitter users to tag their friends in their tweets and has become the natural way for one to one conversations. Being such a simple and yet brilliant communication method, it is no wonder Facebook finds it irresistible!"
- Grey Drane
from Bookmarklet
Ken Wilber - #Integral Fiction: Cactus Land review - http://www.articlesbase.com/book-re...
"Before I began Cactus Land, I expected something more psychological, or obviously metaphorical, but on the surface this book is nothing of the sort. I think a better adjective would be “apocalyptically surreal” or maybe “integral magic realism”. Imagine a world, in the near future, where the symbols of the unconscious come to life. The dance between the un-surfaced elements of the unconscious and culture takes shape in the form of world events and bizarre occurrences. From an Integral standpoint, it parallels the shift between first tier Green Pluralistic and Second Tier Teal Integral."
- Grey Drane
from Bookmarklet
I Feel Like Crap and You’re Getting a Stuffed Chicken | Craftastrophe - http://craftastrophe.net/2008...
Andy Bakun liked this
This blog cracks me up! And I'm not even big on arts and crafts. - From the page: "I don’t know what bothers me more: the fact that there is disgusting Barbie hair on someone’s chicken, or the fact that they’ve seasoned this chicken with the obvious intent to eat it, or that somewhere in the cavity of that poultry is naked Barbie faux-gina."
- Grey Drane
from Bookmarklet
Posterous’ new iPhone app could make citizen journalism and lifestreaming the norm - http://thenextweb.com/2009...
Jeroen De Miranda, Daniel Rowley, Nicholas James and 43 other people liked this
Sounds like another score for posterous!
- Michael Fidler
nice!
- .LAG liked that
I'll probably stick to uploading via email
- Chris Heath
Useful review, Zee. The Techcrunch post suggests the app's not so useful, but you get a more promising story here. Trying it now.
- Tom Landini
id use posterous more if there were an Android app.
- Chris Jackson
Yup, good review. IMHO, Posterous draws its power and its usefulness from the fact that it works through email. I don't even see the need for an iPhone app!
- Rubin Sfadj
Here's a quick pic I snapped off my balcony. It was up in seconds http://ff.im/6T8T6
- Michael Fidler
Yeah, nice angle. I do think that a bit more text support would be nice. As would the ability to delete photos from an album, which doesn't appear to be possible even on the Posterous web site... unless I'm missing something.
- Grey Drane
Hey can someone give me the quick run down on why posterous is better/different than wordpress/blogger or just a quick sales pitch on it. Not seeing the benefits from the outside looking in???
- Cody Heitschmidt
Cody, Ease of use!
- Michael Fidler
@Cody one rarely does, which is why you must look from the inside out .. Seriously, it takes zero effort to start a posterous blog (one of its selling points), so why not just try it and see.
- Vincent van Wylick
bump due to duplicate
- Zee.
Excellent, just as I start using Posterous!
- Jalada
Ok thanks Vincent and Michael. i will give it a shot right now.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Bof, as if we had time to assimilate all the crap even just our friends produce.
- Richard A.
Posterous is great. Downloading the iPhone app now...
- Chris Warfield
My picture ended up in my posterous account because I entered the info before taking the shot, but what happens when the user doesn't have an account? I'm just curious; besides I think I'm going to open a separate account for the iPhone anyways
- Michael Fidler
Posterous’ new iPhone app could make citizen journalism and lifestreaming the norm – The Next Web - http://grey.posterous.com/postero...
Posted via web from That's Grey-posterous!
- Grey Drane
from Posterous
Twitterrific updated to 2.1, adds many new features - http://www.tuaw.com/2009...
The only thing missing from Twitterific before was follow and following support. Now I can get rid of my other apps and use only this one. Love it!
- John
Compared to SimplyTweet, it's still missing push notifications and a landscape keyboard, but I do really like the Twitterrific UI. It's not enough to make me switch from SimplyTweet, though.
- Grey Drane
I worry about Google Wave - asynch nature of Twitter is v appealing - Too much synchronous comms makes head spin. Dont like vid phnes either
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you on all these points. Another thing I've been noticing (maybe it's just me... ;) is that "real-time" services, like FriendFeed, tend to group people by time zone, with North Americans conversing with North Americans, Europeans with Europeans, etc. There's some overlap, of course, but FF conversations tend to burn hot for a short time and then die out, making them much less asynchronous than Twitter convos can be.
- Grey Drane
The Technium: The Most Powerful Force in the World - http://www.kk.org/thetech...
"As far as we can see, for at least a hundred light years in all directions, there appears to be only the bleak unbending forces of physics at work: radiation, heat, gravity, momentum, and always, entropy. But we are lucky. We live on a membrane of floating sphere that is infected with a rampant case of the most powerful force in the universe, a force that is curiously more potent that the immense powers governing the stars around us. Unlike the eternal constancy delivered by the universal laws, this most powerful force is in constant change. The technium is in fact, changing the nature of change, an ongoing process of becoming, and we are, to a statistical approximation, right in the middle of it."
- Grey Drane
from Bookmarklet
Anyone else getting tons of spammy Friendfeed subscription requests? I have a Friendfeed account but don't use it.
No, virtually none. And I do use FriendFeed regularly... for now.
- Grey Drane
Kol Tregaskes to Kol's feed, Social Media, Social Media Club, Social Media Enthusiasts, Appetite, TheNextWeb Forum, Twine
What is your Twine URL? Mine is http://www.twine.com/user...
Will Higgins™, Mac Sharp, Nerkez and 12 other people liked this
As with socialmedian is Twine a FriendFeed alternative? Check out all the Twine groups I added a while back: http://friendfeed.com/groups... #whatsyoururl
- Kol Tregaskes
OK, I'll go with this one. Can always use more Twine connections: http://www.twine.com/user...
- Grey Drane
Looks pretty good as a replacement
- LANjackal
I welcome more Twine connections as well. http://www.twine.com/user...
- Tony Vota
Joined a few weeks ago but haven't done much with it yet. just haven't spent enough time figuring out how it fits in with the rest of the places I send stuff to. http://www.twine.com/user...
- Imabug
Well this looks interesting.. Just created my profile: http://www.twine.com/user...
- Anton Tanderup
http://www.twine.com/user/irma => used to be very active, about a year ago ...
- Irma Vermaat
http://www.twine.com/user... - I hardly use it
- Bryan R. Adams
Am i missing something? I see no comment on any link/article/feed there on Twine. Nothing. Dead community?
- Nik
Not dead, but yeah, it's not real social and it's maybe a great idea that hasn't quite taken off yet.
- Grey Drane
from IM
Thank you all.
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.twine.com/user... - rarely use it though - I'll take a look at these profiles though and re-evaluate.
- Chris Rogers
http://twine.com/user/shal - Shal
- Gordon Freeman
I've had Twine for a long while but don't really use it. Worth looking at again? http://www.twine.com/user...
- Vaughn
In the past I've used it for finding content but I've done that through the digest email or now via the FF groups I've added. I rarely use the site.
- Kol Tregaskes
@Vaughn - It probably depends on the nature of your expectations... see also > http://techpulse360.com/2009...
- Gordon Freeman
If you *had* to use Facebook instead of FriendFeed what would you change about Facebook? And what are the pros and cons of Facebook as it stands now?
John E. Bredehoft, Araceli, Patrik Johansson and 39 other people liked this
What features would you change/remove/add to make it like FriendFeed or generally improve it? Of course we'd like the community spirit and the users from FF on FB but technically what needs amending to FB for you?
- Kol Tregaskes
The main thing, of course, is the openness of the community here and being able to see and comment on just about anything. That's something I can't really see Facebook implementing, unless they did a total overhaul of their system and philosophy.
- Grey Drane
I already use FB a lot now, 99% of my friends I know IRL, as opposed to here and Twitter. FF is awesome though but if they scraped FF and used the tech in upgrading FB I would love the search options in FF and how FF can take in data from a jubilee of other services.
- Chris Nunz
Oh, and they'd have to do something about all those damned apps. The vast majority of FB apps just annoy the crap out of me.
- Grey Drane
Maybe Facebook lite will address some of that. Who knows. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news...
- James Myatt
Thanks for the link, James.
- Kol Tregaskes
Open it up!
- Michael Fidler
Needs to be real time, mos def
- dkb
There has to be a messenger of facebook somewhere in side.
- Naimi
Aside from technical improvements to catch it up with FriendFeed, I'd add the ability to have pseudonymous accounts, just like Google, Twitter, FriendFeed, and most every other major website and social network allow. Let people keep the online identities they've been using for years
- LogEx
@Logical Extremes - Don't we sort-of have that now, thanks to the vanity URLs thing on Facebook? It's also possible to change the URL once, after setting it.
- Tyson Key
As I said here http://friendfeed.com/nathanc... it's mainly just pushing the likes and comments to the top of all of your friends' feeds - that's the core reason FriendFeed works as a conversation instigator.
- Nathan Chase
The spirit of 'You're just here to make us money'
- Johnny Worthington
I'd just turn it into friendfeed.
- Jim Addz No Value
Same here Jim, and Johnny.
- Tyson Key
Jim, yes please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The privacy policy, the member base, and an option to get a mature theme (no pokes, etc.)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I'm looking forward to the release of the beta privacy functions they are testing. It will make a big difference to be able to control what everyone gets to see. I'm hoping they incorporate friendfeed functionality in such a way that you can share things with a bookmarklet amongst other users in a controllable manner. It'd be good if you could share tech stuff with just your techy...
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- Dan Smith
from IM
Oh and I really hope they build an IM client like Friendfeed ones based on Google Talk protocol.
- Dan Smith
You should be able to follow anybody without them having to accept a "friend request". And there should be an equivalent to FriendFeed's imaginary friends (e.g. put any RSS feed you like into your stream)
- Pablo Melchor
+1 Pablo
- Tyson Key
*confused* facebook doesn't do what i (mainly)use friendfeed for ... so i wouldn't use it for that (it has almost none of the functionality)
- immaterial
++ Pablo - I'd also include groups, the way FF has them implemented /and/ content hiding/blocking in the same way FF has it implemented. If I could block activity from ALL applications, announcements, memes, etc., I would find FB so much more useful and interesting.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Opt-out of all apps and invitations ONCE!
- Wes Hoogenboom
@Tyson... No, vanity url aside, I can't be "Logical Extremes" on Facebook. Well, I could try, but why invest anything in that when they would delete my account once they got a whiff of it.
- LogEx
Aah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.
- Tyson Key
I agree Michael. Open it up! Allow feeds from other social networks. I feel like I'm in a closed box when I use FB. Allow users the ability to discover and follow without having to wait for a friend request. Users who don't want to be found should just change privacy settings. I'd also give users the ability to opt out of apps. I hate being forced into dealing with them. The amount invitations and requests are I receive are redonkulous, I'd like to be able to opt out of them as well.
- Brodie Beta
I would like to see a DMZ area where almost anything goes (as long as it is not illegal) that allows for free discussion and sharing of almost anything. (yes Porn)
- Uncle CW™
I'd remove all of the dorks, and replace them with all of the friends i've made on friendfeed.
- Iain Baker
I was just thinking that Iain. I should ask my FF buds to post their FB urls =)
- Brodie Beta
Kol has posted a thread for you to do just that Brodie.....hang on.....
- Iain Baker
Here you go! http://ff.im/6pQHM :))
- Iain Baker
I would change everything
- ★Kristy
It's name would be "FriendFeed", it'd take the form of the service that we currently face, and we'd dance a happy dance, or something like that...
- Tyson Key
Complete segmentation and customization of how our friends are presented both to ourselves and to others we follow/follow us. I like you guys, and I like my real-life friends, but the two cannot collectively co-mingle and keep me comfortable. I'm not trying to hide anything or limit exposure in any way, but this is important to me. Today, with RL contacts in FB, this impedes somewhat my participation in that medium, and as a result increases my participation here.
- jcunwired
I don't want the Facebook toolbar at the top of the screen to follow me around to every outbound link I click on within Facebook.
- Brad Williamson
An "Edit" function. Bumping posts instead of polluting my inbox with notifications that someone liked or commented on a thread would be nice, too.
- Victor Ganata
Make it virtually identical to FF that way we lose nothiing............
- Kevin J Hatton
It's whole Ethics policy!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift +1 and its audience
- sofiagk
Oh yes, good points - I want to own my content, not some snot-nosed entrepreneur just out of high school ;) And, keep censorship reasonable. I don't mind a relatively clean environment, but removing pics of breastfeeding women? Give me a break!
- jcunwired
More feeds, public profiles (not pages), better bookmarklet (well FreindFeed's bookmarklet would do).
- Andrew Roche
So many things.....no waiting to follow someone, no applications, real time, and no more of those damn silly quizzes!
- Bonnie Foster
I must admit, I do like the way FB handles photos and birthday reminders. Past that, not much there I care about (aside from my friends and family) of course.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
See: http://friendfeed.com/faithx5.... My three biggest things were non-reciprocal friendship, actual real-time, and FoaF. Two of those things I think Facebook will never implement.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Remove Apps and Beacon. Then it will start being a little more useful and a LOT less annoying.
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
I don't even know where to start. I can't imagine that the current FF experience, as is, can be replicated in FB, as is. I'd rather just do without FF and look elsewhere.
- Neil Saunders
The "give up your friend's demographic info while annoying them" part.
- Mr. Gunn
+1 groups- enable a feed from the groups to the news feed.
- suelibrarian
Make it so your home feed could display only one list as default, so I could list the people who say things I'm interested in instead of the people who I'm friends with IRL but post useless stuff.
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I have read many comments from people saying that they do not want to mingle their Facebook "real-life friends" (who may not share at all their "geeky interests") and their FriendFeed friends (whom they may not have met in person but who do share their interests). Maybe FriendFeed could become something like "Facebook Pro" (or whatever you want to call it), meaning it would be the more...
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- Pablo Melchor
More friend-of-friend stuff, more realtime, more filtering.
- Tristan Seligmann
Yeah real-time is really lacking there but it must be in the cards. The real-time pops you get a nice and I like that expandable chat pop-up too.
- Kol Tregaskes
If I HAD to use facebook instead of friendfeed. I would simply do without.
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Spin off FriendFeed into it's own company, then retire to Baja. Oh, wait, that's what I would do if I RAN Facebook.
- Steven Perez
Hehe, Steven.
- Kol Tregaskes
Maybe they should replace the Facebook management and product teams with the FriendFeed folks - I can see that creating a significant improvement. ;)
- Tyson Key
I've been using FB over FF the last couple days simply because of a possible merger. Plus, it does feel a little good inside to have rl friends in on the action for once and not have to get them to create a FF account. But I am not using FBs importing tools to bring it all in to FB. I don' t like that I can't make the imported stories private and I don't like that I can't include what I...
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- Araceli
I expressed my thoughts about this at the time of the acquisition, but now I'm rethinking my original thoughts and am writing a blog post (or perhaps several) about this. Note that a certain red-head will turn up in my discussion. I'll keep you...um..posted about this.
- John E. Bredehoft
I have activated the Selective Twitter Status for my Facebook page. This is a test tweet. #fb
Tried TweetPo.st? Does either #fb to post or !fb NOT to post a tweet. Doesn't post @replies either way.
- Grey Drane
Can we talk more about Posterous? Do you use it? Do they have an easy to way to check if your friends are already users? Would you agree that if it went real time and switched the "favorite" to "like" we would be pretty damn close? - http://posterous.com/
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Also, who is on it? Saw some of the big names, but how about you?
- Ben Hanten
Also, I am trying to figure out how to share an item AFTER it has been posted to Posterous. Is there an option to email a link to someone?
- Ben Hanten
Check Kol's post: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Shevonne
Well, initially like everyone else, I was hooked on posterous because all the cool kids were using it, but now I rarely visit and post to my page. Some well known people in the tech industry love it , i.e. Andy Ihnatko who is even thinking about taking down his wordpress blog all together and exclusively posting to posterous.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I haven't used it much in the last couple of months. Mostly because I use it to post intestestish photos from my iPhone and I really haven't had many the last couple of months.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
i like posterous... i've been posting there from my iphone more often that posting here... it gets here via their autopost everywhere feature anyways, and also posts to my wp blog too
- Chris Heath
So can you help me out? Is there a way to email a post to friends? That would be like a 101 function, right?
- Ben Hanten
automatically? as it's posted? i don't think so
- Chris Heath
No after it has been posted.
- Ben Hanten
i don't think so... wouldn't it be easier to email them yourself?
- Chris Heath
I use it, like others, to post iPhone photos, sometimes to multiple sites
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
There doesn't appear to be a way to check if your friends from other networks are members. That'd be a cool feature though. Hopefully it's coming in a future update. *fingers crossed*
- Grey Drane
I'm sort of interested in Tumblr. Seems like the community is much stronger there than on Posterous.
- Ben Hanten
Has anyone tried Identoo (based on NoseRub protocol)? Looks interesting.
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I'm here: http://identoo.com/koltreg...
- Kol Tregaskes
I found via a comment in the CloneFeed group and remembered Joelle saying she was a member. It looks cool but I had trouble adding many of the services and there are no comments.
- Kol Tregaskes
Anyway, off now, catch you all tomorrow.
- Kol Tregaskes
BTW, check out NoseRub: http://noserub.com/ "The home of decentralized, social networks" and the video here: http://vimeo.com/3003707?hd=1
- Kol Tregaskes
it looks like yonoo on a site :)
- Tolga Akmazoglu
from email
I quite like it atm. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Looks interesting, but I couldn't add some of my accounts on more obscure services... like Twitter and YouTube! Said it couldn't find a feed.
- Grey Drane
Grey, same here.
- Kol Tregaskes
no comments possible, though
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
been there a while, not had any problems adding twitter or anything, so I suspect the problem is one of load or twitter itself, rather than identoo oh and i am http://identoo.com/iphigenie/
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
With a protocol name like "NoseRub" how could I resist taking it for a spin
- Niklas Sjostrom
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
So, with all the hubbub over the FB + FF deal, how many are dumping FF straight-away (going to Streamy, Posterous, etc) and how many of you plan to ride things out?
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Riding it out.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
I'm on the back with Leo and Kate
- Johnny Worthington
I'm staying till all the lights are out.
- pea
I'm here as long as the content stays here; if it becomes a ghost town, or the content becomes all spammy garbagio... there would be no reason to stay.
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
Y'all will need a crowbar to pry my cold dead hands off of FF. That being said, I've already joined a couple of other sites just to see what my options are (uh, very little so far; I like the way FF rolls wayyyyy too much). But this is still my #1 crib.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I'll be here.
- Yolanda
I'm gonna do both. Stay with FF while exploring other options. May activity may change as FF changes, we'll see.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm gonna be a hangin' on.
- Brent - Loving Life
Well, it's good to know there are some out there willing to ride it out. As Amanda so eloquently put it, "I like the way FF rolls wayyyyy too much"! ;) There is more "community" here (IMO) and I loathe the thought of having to find and/or recreate that.
- JA Castillo
Considering building a personal site with a blog and a real-time feed of other activities etc. At least I'd be in control of the content.
- Jemm
Riding............................ I'm betting I'll stick to Facebook though once FF goes away, cause it won't be that long before the FF features get rolled in there.
- Nathan Chase
Riding it out. I have no problem with the FB+FF deal, I think it is a good exit for them.
- DGentry
Checking for a lifeboat, but riding it out.
- Spidra Webster
I'm waiting.. Streamy and Posterous don't seem to be alternatives. Let's see how http://a.tinythread.com develops..
- Dan van Moll
Not ready to jump ship quite yet, but I will likely be reprioritizing my social networks and looking for other tools to fill the eventual void.
- Grey Drane
i will wait and see what TPTB decide to do with FF. streamy looks interesting, but doesn't seem like a FF replacement. the range of services you can feed into it is somewhat limited right now.
- Imabug
Staying until the end. FB will probably replace FF for me at least when it comes down to the social part. As for aggregation there are quite some alternatives out there: Tumblr, Lifestream, Virb, Posterous etc or even set it up yourself on a self hosted WordPress or something.
- Rutger Blom
from iPhone
I'm done posting directly using the bookmarklet and will be backing away from developing tools that use the API... and my usage will probably drop off significantly... but I'll still be around. It's also time to try to get all the tumblr/posterous/wordpress stuff sorted out again.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm staying until I find something better, which I expect to take some time.
- James Myatt
Riding...it is what it is...
- .LAG liked that
I'm staying here till they lock the doors and toss me out.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
no where else to go for the moment.
- vijay
Riding it out, but forming contingency plans as well.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I'll be here
- chrisofspades
staying put
- Houseofmax
Ride it out as I did with the big everyone was leaving Twitter debacle.
- Mlibrarianus
Staying put, of course, until FB eats FF up.
- Kol Tregaskes
I decided to go against the trend and dump Twitter instead. Twitter is unreliable and not so respective of it's users.
- Richard A.
What did you replace it with? Plurk?
- Rutger Blom
from email
Why Streamy Could be the Next FriendFeed - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Oh Sarah .... no no no :P
- Chris Saad
I'm checking it out now, I like the interface.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
@Chris: oh yes, yes, yes! Please read.
- Sarah Perez
As long as we all go to the same service!:)
- Patrik Johansson
we're all swooping in now!
- Jim Addz No Value
joining...
- Jemm
I signed up a while back and encountered errors while trying to sign in. I just tried it again and still getting that same error. No Streamy for me.
- Yolanda
in
- andy brudtkuhl
I'm joining, if just to see what's going on in there. Same username.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Well, I gave it my email address 20 minutes ago, and I've just tried with another email address. Still got nothing back.
- Mark H
interesting...
- Grey Drane
Hmm... commenting on FF from streamy? Where does it show up? (this is a test...)
- Grey Drane
holy crap this is what FB should have been IMHO....this is what I imgine maybe FB+FF might look like?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
OK, not sure. It's a cool idea, but it's like a slower, less optimal interface for your various social networks. All in one place, sure, but I'm thinking I'd rather keep separate tabs open than have everything crammed into one site.
- Grey Drane
yeah I see what you mean...not sure.....definitely lacking importing of services though for more stuff.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
from IM
seems too busy
- andy brudtkuhl
bah, 500 error after I signed up. damn you all for killing it!
- Mark Bockenstedt
Ooooooo Shiny New Thing.......
- Roberto Bonini
Finally got 3 emails turn up all at once, signed up, and... 500 Internal Server Error. I get the message. It doesn't want me.
- Mark H
I got the 500 Internal Server Error too... :(
- Seth Gray
you all killed it! lol
- Sarah Perez
lol the net effect just killed another site!
- Justin
500 internal server error, could't not be my FF replacement for the moment !
- David Foucher
can't say i agree, but i like the effort ;)
- Gunther Sonnenfeld
Was just finishing the sign up when it died on me.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Streamy server fail :(
- Eric Logan
I hope they've improved performance. When I first got on a couple of months ago I thought it was wicked but then it started breaking on me.
- Justin Whittaker
Signed up a while ago but didn't spend too long. I'll go back and see what the fuss is about.
- Kenton
Just tried to sign in and it crashed (twice). Doesn't look promising.
- Jill O'Neill
Let's blame Scoble (the Robert one) since he seems to be gone from FF now anyway.
- Kenton
Slow as molasses, then crashed. Streamy people reading this thread? Don't get your hopes up that the little influx of FFers are going to stick around long.
- Christopher A Carr
Streamy should be back online and working nice and fast. Whole team was out the lunch when we got a flood of new users, but things are smooth now. Sorry everyone!
- tuxboo
Sarah, brilliant post, thank you. It's hugely valuable to see a side-by-side and to have your opinions on what needs work. We'd definitely like to make FriendFeeders comfortable on Streamy. We'll be back with updates. And hey, Chris, my friend. Don't hate ;)
- Don Mosites
Which Chris? :) I'm not hating, I'm just suggesting that we need to stop making the same mistake over and over again - crowning 'winning tools' - the winning platform is the web - the tools should leverage open standards to create web-wide distributed social networks. Blogs are the right place to start - tools like streamy are great ways to aggregate the community - but not HOST it
- Chris Saad
Opera browser support please. Other than that, it looks pretty good.
- Alejandro
Just joined! Seems to be promising.
- Joao Alves
Been using it for months. I must admit it's the best Twitter "in the cloud" client that I've used. Far better than Seesmic Web Client, at least.
- Jordi Soler
Thanks Sarah! Was looking at Streamy earlier today. Just joined and happy to give it a try. Also want to check out AmpliFeeder. Not bailing from FriendFeed yet, but feel the need to investigate alternatives.
- Larry Hawes
This really looks like an interesting concept:)
- Rob Cairns
Joined Streamy today. Oddly, its FriendFeed feed isn't showing this thread...
- Dennis Jernberg
Oh, *there* it is. I see this thread right at the top of my Streamy FF feed now. Commenting from Streamy.
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't get the "New from People" stream. The few conversations that are happening get drowned in all these useless activity updates. I want to see what people are sharing, not what they're *doing*
- Christopher A Carr
And I keep getting signed out of Google for no apparent reason. Lots of little oddities -- lots of work to do before this is usable.
- Christopher A Carr
Checking it out ...
- Tom Horn
"Invalid image type. Provided image/png" I like my PNG avatar ...
- Tom Horn
No but it's still a nice project...
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
there is also lifestream.fm but not so useful
- Ahmet Soyata
Joined!
- Anthony
too slow!!
- Miketrevis
Joined but could not figure out how to add FriendFeed acct
- Jacque
ha! dumb errors :-L
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
it would be nice if you could opt out of the 'ping every network' but still link your accounts. I haven't seen any settings for that in squirmy, I mean streamy.
- Holly Rae
Facebook won't buy this
- ThenWang
I still think it's a nicer UI than socialmedian
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
For some reason it isn't letting me log in anymore. I remember when people were anxiously awaiting Streamy, and then with all the delays, it seemed like people just forgot about it :P
- Angelo Rodrigues
If the rumors come true it will be a sad day indeed... this alternative looks interesting though....thanks'
- Bill Masson
Streamy won't be replacing anything any time soon if user's can't log into the service. :o
- Kevin Whalen
That was a very thorough review.
- Amani
Thanks Sarah. Great review.
- Iván Abrego
Now Streamy is crashing on me every 5 minutes.
- Christopher A Carr
Couldn't even log in...I really hope there's another friendfeed clone out there that is easy to use...
- brainno722 (Peter)
Don't think they're ready...
- Brad
no, they're not ready yet... but can they be by the time the need arises? I think it's in there.
- Jim Addz No Value
Hey all, we made some fixes to avoid the crashes you were experiencing on Streamy. Be sure to check back in again soon. Thanks for trying us out!
- Don Mosites
I tried it last night. It's wonderful. But the loading speed wasn't that good. Or is it only me?
- میر «عرفان» موسوی
not just you.
- Jim Addz No Value
Twitter is down again.
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Yeah, this is getting ridiculous! The beginning of the end for Twitter? And the beginning of a new, federated statstream? Let's hope....
- Grey Drane
Hmm... yeah, if it has a microblog/statstream component, that might work. Or maybe just the momentum of Google Wave will drag the statstream infrastructure into the "open", too?
- Grey Drane
I think that the fusion between FF and Facebook is very good (though indirect) advertisement for Google Wave ;)
- Hanna Wiszniewska
Yes :) I think Google Wave can be something that we can rely on because it's made by Google.
- Svartling
Yeah, so "when" Google buys Twitter, they can wrap it up into the open Wave protocol. :)
- Grey Drane
from iPhone
I just wrote about Twitter's Platform Shortcomings: http://scobleizer.com/2009... am I nuts or right?
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Not getting to old tweets is a serious issue. Do you think there is a market for archiving old tweets, FF posts, etc.?
- τorƍue
I think the cost for archiving everything is huge. But a backup service for all your Social Media Stuff, like an application that downloads all data with help of the APIs and save it to an external harddrive would make total sense. Maybe Timemaschine on a Mac could do that haha.
- Max Schulze
from fftogo
Max: at least 75% of the value in social media is the searchability and connectability. As I learned when I couldn't get to my Flickr photos the other day because my Pro account had lapsed.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter have all this shortcomings, why do you think developer flock to them?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
It is naive to think that we will be able to archive our lives online, especially when it's free.
- Mitch
We have had some pleasant experiences with Twitter. They have been helpful.
- K N Ajit Narayan
we need a mashup where comments "like'd" enough times are thrown into persistant storage for the benefit of humanity
- erik yuzwa
You are 100% right. That's why I said Twitter Search is very, very broken a few months back, and that was just scraping the surface.
- Louis Gray
I don't think it is just a platform issue, the whole debacle about the recent DDOS and their blanket ban on all semi high-traffic 3rd party sites (such as my own - twollo, I have been issuing refunds all weekend).
- Paul Kinlan
Perhaps Twitter should be regulated as a utility. I'd prefer an alternative that gives me control, perhaps an Push Button Web alternative, open source and federated.
- Dominic Jones
Nicely summed up. I "solved" the history of tweets with Twitter Tools plugin for blog which pulls out weekly summaries of what I tweet (I intentionally left out the @replies). The archive is being build on my blog (http://twistedfirestarter.cz/categor...) and it's banned from showing on the home page of the blog, because I don't do much posting :). Picking the winners got...
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- Dušan Šimonovič
Twitter want to be the communications platform for the 21 century, even now they are like the postal service, when they go down I can't do business, I can't communicate with my customers.... A lot of people on the development list were saying "Don't build your business on Twitter", but that is what Twitter want you to do, they want to get you to the point where you are so reliant on Twitter that you have no alternative.
- Paul Kinlan
I'm going to frame Louis' comment. :-)
- Robert Scoble
The 100% right comment? :)
- Paul Kinlan
Fajar: developers liked Twitter for a couple of reasons. 1. All their friends were on it and still are. I watch early adopter behavior (even to the point of unfollowing and refollowing to clean up my list) and the developers are still pretty active on Twitter and so are their friends. Unless everyone leaves together that won't change. 2. The growth on Twitter has been STUNNING. So there...
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- Robert Scoble
It feels like the more that we base our online lives on someone elses server the more we will ultimately lose in time. Facebook is a huge black hole which sucks in so much of our lives, and if it disappears next year -- what then? We've lost 5 years of our lives. Photos, conversations, etc. Not like there's solution in sight either.
- Kevin Francis
Kevin: Thats why the DISo projects are important - shame it is so hard to get adoption
- Paul Kinlan
Paul: yeah, the 100% right one. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: to be fair it was his only comment on this entry :) just thought I would re-enforce the point :)
- Paul Kinlan
Robert: Your best post in a long time.
- Jim Connolly
Jim: it's my only post in a long time! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: That's what I meant we need a searchable and connectable backup solution that pulls our data for offline use, like google gears but with access to my raw data. Imagine you could still access everything even if the service is down, you would kind of have an archive of everything you ever did or posted. Your Maschine or a Service just needs to pull it once and then update everytime you post something.
- Max Schulze
It's not so much the platform but what the guys behind the service are trying to do with it. That said, I'm still pissed off that their filtering me from search is still unresolved after a month and a half. If only Seesmic Desktop had FF and Blellow support... if it did, I'd be an ex-Twitter user.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Chris, I have not been in search for about 2 months (@PaulKinlan)
- Paul Kinlan
Twitter needs to be redesigned from the ground up, from scratch, from square one. All the arguments you bring up are spot on, but the issue isn't necessarily the platform itself. It's that the original purpose of Twitter does not in any way, shape, or form cater to what Twitter has become, and the developers have effectively been having a blank stare, completely clueless as to what to do about it.
- Adam Reyher
from Alert Thingy
I agree Adam but we don't need to worry because we all have FF
- Thomas Power
Robert, I think I've mentioned heaps of times the search problem where you can't access stuff past a few weeks. You can't really expect Twitter to be called the next big thing in search while it's that limited.
- George Hall (Australia)
There's also an ongoing discussion I have with a friend majoring in old languages. Ancient records were great because the materials stood the test of time. Digital information, though, is dependent on electricity and still being able to read a storage medium. If everything were online, and an electro-magnetic pulse hit...bye-bye all human knowledge at once...extreme scenario I admit, but very possible.
- George Hall (Australia)
I still think I should be chiselling my best tweets in stone...
- George Hall (Australia)
Similar thing happened with syncplicity: a great synchronizing tool, been using it for about 1 year. They just stopped Mac client beta: "Unfortunately what we found is that the fixes entail almost a rewrite in many cases — a process that would take many months to a year." http://blog.syncplicity.com/2009...
- Lucian Nicolescu
Kudos on this article Robert. Glad somebody with your following wrote this piece, else it might have been missed. As somebody who has invested resources in exploring Twitter based products, I couldn't agree more.
- Abhimanyu Chirimar
Nambu is a Social Messaging Trainwreck and the only way they can come-up with to make money from Twitter is a tr.im extortion play
- paul mooney
Robert: That's some honesty fo' yo' ass!
- © b e e n s w a n k
And Twitter's down again! :( Seriously folks, what are we waiting for to implement an open, federated statstream protocol that's not dependent on one company?
- Grey Drane
@grey see xmpp. it's the basis for jabber and google wave.
- Steve Wilhelm
Yeah, I've heard of it before, but never really checked it out. I'm not quite that much of a techie, but I'll give it another shot. ;)
- Grey Drane
from IM
Identi.ca, Grey. It's an open, federated twitter-API compatible service. Based on laconi.ca, which is free software, so you can set up your own server today.
- Ken Kennedy
OK, but isn't it still sort of dependent on level of adoption? If too few are using identi.ca [http://identi.ca] or a specific laconi.ca [http://laconi.ca] installation, is it worth it? Or what am I missing?
- Grey Drane
from IM
Or is it (will it be) like Google Wave (as I understood it from the presentation video) where different implementations of the protocol work together more or less seemlessly as one big distributed platform?
- Grey Drane
I have said before that twitters days are numbered. Then with all the media attention that I was thinking of back tracking on my comment. Now with the buy out of FF and the many faults of twitter that I would be shocked if twitter survived the social networking race. I really had hoped and ultimate SN app would come out of all this. Twitter is to basic and FaceBook to complicated (also...
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- Captain Jack
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