Steve Jobs creating a walled garden...these are the gardens from Filoli. Gorgeous, safe, comfortable, profitable. That's why people like walled gardens. It's a rich man's vision of paradise. Steve Jobs is trying to create Filoli in the iPhone/iPad ecosystem.
Keen observation: "...rich man's vision of paradise". It is in all of us, though most of us lack the means for even any dim vision of it. But for some out of both groups, there is the good sense to know that we do not have the potential to maintain that dim vision even if we did have the means.
- Melanie Reed
Stephen, they keep on going so I assume they are doing well enough. This was just a strange thought I had while walking the grounds. Such a perfectly crafted micro-world. Who wouldn't want to live there? It takes some thought to understand why not and at the same time understand the goal. In a way it's like an Egyptian pyramid, meant to awe and last beyond one'd death. Steve was here.
- Todd Hoff
Todd, I see what you're saying, but Filoli is a triumph of openness now -- all the opulence turned into a community resource, with workshops and festivals and public access. Maybe if you made your comparison between Apple and some closed-off community?
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Of course my analogy sucks at some level :-) It was more a feeling than anything. I could try to salvage the situation by saying that in a way the app store, itunes, apple stores, etc serve a community function while still being closed, and they each oppulent in their own way.
- Todd Hoff
Several good tips here: http://www.labnol.org/interne... (Save to PDF, Convert partial feed item to full feed via email, AddThis/AddToAny/ShareThis, Backtweets/Technorati/GoogleBlogSearch related conversations)
- Tinfoil 2.0
"PageRank assigns a reputation score to the URL where content is published. This makes it a great fit for content that stays put in one location. However, evolving content distribution via blogs, RSS, guest columns, and syndication are a challenge for PageRank. Tweets, retweets, micropublishing, ratings, and comments - even bigger problems. The solution lies in associating reputation with the identity of the author - a PageRank for People."
- Leo Laporte
from Bookmarklet
Reminds me of "wuffie" where personal reputation replaces monetary wealth in Cory Doctorow's DOWN AND OUT IN THE MAGIC KINGDOM.
- Liam Watts
I love that comic. Makes me chukle every time.
- Roberto Bonini
Doctors are catching on to this and have slipped a "patient will not post online comments about doctor" clause into their standard forms. You don't even know you've agreed to it unless you read the whole thing, and who does that?
- jjjobst
Desirable, but immensely difficult: how do you define a "person" for rank purposes? We are talking here about a huge collection of disparate things. And, what if, contrary to the online reputation, the real reputation sucks?
- Nikos Anagnostou
Agree that we need a soltion for this but a Nikos touches upon is need to agree definitions of scope. Others male valid point also some further discussion and thinking required.
- Najeeb Mirza
PersonRank tied to (possibly) OpenId anyone? ...Everytime I click „Like“ FF brain is assigning whuffie to the author of a message.
- Mindaugas Dagys
Doesn't Googles Sentiment Analysis a step in the right direction? It infers sentiment to rank http://www.seobythesea.com/... and “service,” “value,” and “general comments.” Aspects are defined in one of Google’s papers on sentiment analysis as “properties of an object that can be rated by a user.” Unfortunately, Google is attempting to Patent this process.
- Greg
Yup. This made me think of "Down and out in the Magic Kingdom" too. If you haven't read it, it's worth it.
- Chad McCoskey
I would say not desirable - relevance is highly relative when it comes to people, and frankly anything that ranks people by the noise they make online and how many people they can get to claim they are great... will produce the wrong kind of behaviour
- Iphigenie
I agree with Joelle, mostly. The exceptions would be for trolls and spammers -- it's too much work to be on a constant lookout for trolling, and I'd really like to have an automatic metric which would enable me to automatically filter out such rubbish.
- Nathaniel Thurston
leo: yes indeed, and such a content filter would work well by taking into account the distance through the social graph between the author and each reader, rather than using a fixed measure of the author's reputation for all readers.
- Bob Hitching
from fftogo
Nathaniel - I might agree for spammers, but "trolls" are a difficult thing. Many game changing people were labelled troublemakers first, today we'd call them trolls...
- Iphigenie
Hi Guys - I'm the author of the original article. One thing to keep in mind is that this system could be made topic sensitive. We'd be looking at total contribution/reputation for each person for a specific social graph relating to a specific topic. Is some ways this would be like mapping the Hilltop/HITS algorithms used in algorithmic text search to the social space. The similarity is...
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- Marshall Clark
The problem with any such measure is that some people will take it far too seriously - make it into something authoritative instead of something helpful - and some people will game it. I dont want to have to think about my "score" in any field and have to "work" in the way the score measure in order to be taken seriously
- Iphigenie
Interesting post, I was just thinking today when reading about Listiti.com about how Twitter Lists plus this new form of "Track"/search on them can at least partially solve that problem: Just pick a reputable List, one that is large enough to create a thorough but vetted "universe of discourse" (e.g. Scoble's Tech-News-Brands with 500 entries). Then you're searching over that set, and not over the entire freaking Internet. This pretty much bypasses all of Google's PR machinations and their gaming by SEOs.
- Alex Schleber
On SocialToo we're assigning a rank to people based on various points assigned by other people they come in contact (via follow, dms, etc). It has the potential to become this.
- Jesse Stay
Yep eBay comes to mind A+++++ Quick operator will deal with again!!!!!!!!!111one
- Phill Price
from iPhone
But isnt the problem then that all you see and hear is from the "big guys" who are already established, as defined by "in" players who by nature will want to be in the "big guys" good books? We're right back in the landscape of television, where the barrier of entry for new players is high, opinion and value is centrally defined... and we get lower quality and service as none of them tries very hard...
- Iphigenie
Just tried the “Stainless” browser for the first time (thanks, Corey! http://friendfeed.com/icorey). Seems promising. Wonder what the likelihood is that we'll see robust development around it as compared to Chrome? I have some nitpicks with Stainless, but it's only at v0.7, so I'll hold off... :) - http://www.stainlessapp.com/
Have you tried any of the recent chromium nightlies for them mac? I grabbed one about a week ago and haven't looked back, and I was a safari afficionado for years. Not all the features are quite there - e.g. printing, but what is there is now very solid and I've found it to be more usable than safari - just the combined search and location bar speeds things up a lot.
- Robin Barooah
Nice! Hadn't heard of this, and I really miss the combo search/address bar from Chrome, on the Mac. I'll give this a spin!
- Cole Jolley
funny, started to try it today. very fast. faster than chrome but lacks elementary browser feature (url bar history, autocomplete, keyboard shortcuts,....) maybe for later
- Ouriel Ohayon
Yeah, I've been using this since about version 0.5... it's improved a lot since then, and I use it occasionally. I do like the parallel sessions feature, where you can be logged in to multiple Gmail accounts (for example) at the same time.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Nice. Just sold my first photo (above) on Clustershot. I sold a license for $300 and get to keep $264. Gotta love the payout percentage to the photographer in selling work on Clustershot!
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Clusterstock was started by silverorange. Daniel Burka from digg is one of the investors. The idea is to let photographers set the price for their work and then give them most of the proceeds of the sale. Clusterstock pays out 88% directly to photographers vs. Getty/Flickr's 20% payouts. I really hope that they succeed in gaining attention with their catalog. You can link your flickr photos directly to clusterstock to import them and sell them.
- Thomas Hawk
I still think the name is a disaster that's gonna hold them back... but congrats, Thomas!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Thomas - I thought you might be interested to know that this sale was generated by a Google search refer for the term ""stock photography Noe Valley". Oh, and it's ClusterShot not ClusterStock :)
- Dan James
ahhh, sorry dan, clustershot, clustershot. Why can't I remember that. Good to see that you guys are indexing well on Google Dan.
- Thomas Hawk
More or less. RSS works fine by itself, but it works even better if you use these products. However, the idea behind one is analytics, the other is speed.
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
Steve: Just saying that it's evolutionary, not revolutionary. The WebHooks stuff is cool, especially for people like me who are still doing stuff in PHP. But the "this changes everything" light has not been lit for me.
- Sean Gallagher
My pal falling tree has the scoop on the latest Govt. stimulus program. ""2009, August 26 A new government program is on the way, providing a boost to image quality across the country. Cash for Cameras is a new measure which could give credit of $500 for old cameras. Your old camera must be digital and you can only use it for a camera that has a sensor capable 10 MegaPixels greater than your current camera. The camera must be in working condition and you must have the original receipt""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Sounds like an April fools joke to me! How about a cash-for-clunker program for appliances. Would get people to get rid of their energy inefficient refrigerators, washers, dryers, water heaters, dishwashers, HVAC systems. Would save energy AND stimulate the economy at the same time.
- Jeff P. Henderson
maybe now's the time to get a new 5D M2?
- Thomas Hawk
Wow, Robert, that is something good to hear for once, thank-you for sharing! It is curious why this isn't reflected at more conferences, though!
- Carlton Hackett
Catherine more women than the last time I was there and more than you see at most conferences.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Can't wait for the new season... "Even more than in the first two years, this new season, which begins on Sunday on AMC, stresses the less amusing side of that innocence, leading viewers to look back, aghast at, and enthralled by, a world so familiar and so primitive. Characters on “Mad Men” struggle in shame and secrecy with the very things that today are openly, incessantly boasted and blogged about: humble roots, broken homes, homosexuality, unwed motherhood, caring for senile parents."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
I like the idea, but not the name. Seems kind of bias right off the bat. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the innovation that Google brings to the table, but to name the freakin' show after Google?? Can you tell that I am a big fan of Dvorak :)
- rodney.franklin
Think it was a big mistake to put the name "google" in the title, but will probably be a great show anyways.
- Steven Legault
this is great, so much to talk about, and so much to learn. I think most people have no idea the range of services that are emerging from both Google and Amazon related to cloud services that will be invaluable for the small or start-up business as well as consumers....
- Howie Schechtman
Can't wait! A new and exciting podcast for a new and exciting era of computing!
- Josh Rosen
Oh no!!! Not more Leo Podcasts!!! :-) Sure I'll be there!
- Richard Bitting
Can't wait, Leo! I'll subscribe immediately. This is an excellent topic and I'm really glad to see the best podcast network on the Internet jumping right in to cover it.
- Eric Geller
I'm really interested to see how this show goes. This is a big topic heading into our future.
- Mike Nayyar
I'm not fond of the "Google" in the name either, it's like calling a car show "This Week in Gerneral Motors". But I'll try to listen in to the taping anyways, should be funny & knowledgable with the three of you.
- Martin
This sounds like a good show, and nice graphics! But how do you have time leo?! Sometimes during somewhat slow news weeks there is some overlap in news like macbreak and twit which can sometimes be annoying but still great shows as I'm sure this one will be as well. WIll jeff and gina always be there or more of a twit interchangeable style?
- Denis Dervisevic
Looking forward to it, I love your other shows and Gina Trapani is great.
- Brandon Eaker
All things Google. Not all things Twitter? LOL Should be interesting. I was listening when you spoke of this show as a, maybe. I'll be there.
- D Lets
Ready to listen to the big three Windows Weekly, MacBreak Weekly and This Week in Google...TWiT is in a class by itself.
- Christopher Knopick
Windows Weekly is the best because Paul does something 90% of the TWiT network hosts don't do: RESEARCH!
- Mark
Should call it "this week in the clouds"
- Stan
from iPhone
Gina is great, as is Jeff. I really look forward to seeing how this show develops.
- Lori Todd
Google is taking over the world. Chrome OS = Android 2.0 for large laptop screens, Google Voice on Android and White Spaces will kill the $1 Trillion Telecom and ISP industry, you should talk about those ARM processor based netbooks that are coming out with Chrome browser in the next few months, they will take over the whole laptop market and start costing $150 with no contracts.
- Charbax
Great show Leo. Great way to kick off Sunday morning. will try with hangover next week
- guydownunder
from iPhone
TWiG was great! It really makes me want to dive into the cloud. :)
- Curt Tweedle
Great show! I will be a regular weekly viewer & I want to be a part of the Wave you set up.
- Don Struble
There is one This Week in Google podcast in iTunes, but it's not this one ;)
- Reijo
Someone else already took the name? Naughty Leo for not checking lol
- Mark
from iPhone
Mark, they did one episode and it was 2 years ago. I don't think they'll have any issues with the president of the internet using the same title...
- MλTT
It would be ironic if it was the twitvid folks who made the podcast hehe. Leos show was much better anyways
- Mark
from iPhone
I have been looking forward to this show since you first announced it. Thanks!
- Bruce Vittetoe
Gina T. mentioned y'day it wasn't up on iTunes yet, but they were working on it. Sounds like another TWiT winner!
- Rob Greco
from email
Great what a good idea since Google seems to run the show/
- Rob Cairns
Looking for it on iTunes here too, nothing yet.
- Andrew Leahey
Take a while to appear on iTunes. Meanwhile you can add it manually to iTunes with the following URL: http://leo.am/podcasts/twig Thanks for listening!
- Leo Laporte
What was that thing that Jeff Jarvis brought up at about 46:00 and it sounded like; Prezee or Prez-e? I have looked on Google and I found nothing.
- AquaGeneral
Thanks Christopher, yeah, he does have my wife's looks. He runs like me, though (I ran four marathons in high school, fastest one at 3:14, so hopefully he keeps it up).
- Robert Scoble
Robert - he's great! the little guy - love him!
- bradzo
Robert, I like that you remember the time of your fasted marathon. I think a blog post about your marathoning days is in order. :-)
- Brett Nordquist
Nothing wrong with your photography Robert. :-) Wonderful series.
- Håkan Dahlström
Brett: not much to say except I took up running cause the jocks were always trying to beat me up. They once tried to tape me to a tree. They got my brother instead (not Alex). Actually I got into running because of my middle school science teacher at Hyde Jr. High, Mike Mister. Mr. Mr. is what we called him. Anyway, there's no secret to running marathons, you just have to run a LOT.
- Robert Scoble
By the way, this was the first time I used FriendFeed's photo feature. Very nice!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'd like to get in shape to the point where I can run one. Have a ways to go. Playing a lot of basketball lately.
- Brett Nordquist
Brett: to totally demoralize you, when I was in high school my running partner was a 45-year-old woman who ran 100 milers. She always kicked my ass. Probably explains why I don't run anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Our daughter was born a few months before Milan (seriously, playdate next time we're back in the Santa Cruz area), but we have such blinders on that I saw this pic and thought "wow, how did that kid get so big already?" Oh. Right. He's two. Hope you're having as much fun as we are!
- Ryan Sholin
I got to save some $$$ to buy a camera, but with the remodeling at my casa going on...not now. UGH. And my Morning Star will be 21 months on the 22nd of July!!!
- Joel Robert Perez
hes running to get to a computer to check his friendfeed account!
- Allen Stern
You're totally right Robert, this IS a great photo set!
- Chris Heath
now we know you Robert thank you for sharing
- Thomas Power
@carloe さん。親バカは日本ではユーモラスなもの, 微笑ましいものとして扱われます。ですから、思わず吹いてしまったのは実に正しい(笑)。コトバが逆さになって、バカ親になると、これは少しばかりネガティブな意味合いを帯びてきますが。/@carloe Oya-Baka is used and understood as humorous or smily sence in Japan. Therefore it's exactly that you laugh my comment. However, it will have negative sence if you exchange sort of word as Baka-Oya.
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@RickCogley 仰るとおりですね。笑って済まされるバカ親もいれば、子供の命や将来に関わるほどのバカ親まで、色んな種類のバカ親がいます。困ったもんです。
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@RickCogley I agree you. There are a huge variety of Baka-Oya like just be lughed to serious for children's life or future.
- Sakurai.Catshop
from fftogo
@Sakurai.Catshop そうですね。この間育児2人を車の中に閉じこめて死なせたやつらいるし。ったく。
- Rick Cogley
Many say the same thing about his old man. :)
- Snow Vandemore