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if you reply, "me too!" to a listserv i will find a way to kill you. #trust
imabonehead, LB: #TeamMonique, Derrick and 12 other people liked this
me too!
- ellbeecee
LBC.
- Marie
me too - though worse is people choosing to "test" email to a multi-thousand person mailing list. Repeatedly.
- WebGoddess
same here!
- Jason - The Opaque
from Android
We must be on the same lists.
- Mary Carmen
Testing. Please ignore
- CarlC, spelling expert
from Android
unsubscribe
- John Dupuis
I have an addendum to my previous addendum.
- John (bird whisperer)
how do I get off this list!!!!
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
test.
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
*x has recalled the message titled: re: please ignore"
- Sir Shuping is just sir
apologies for sending this to multiple lists
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
We have withdrawn 30 years of National Geographics . Do you want them?
- maʀtha
from Android
Ooh, we have those too. Wouldn't you rather have ours?
- ellbeecee
Yesterday this poor person kept accidentally sending stuff to the listserv and then would try to "unsend" it, and then would apologize for it. Happened about a dozen times. And then I unsubscribed.
- Derrick
is me3 ok ??
- Peter Dawson
Subscribe, please.
- CarlC, spelling expert
You guys, I think I was the victim of racism today. Or I was stereotyped? Either way I was offended. >:[
Stephen Mack #TeamMomo liked this
:-(
- John (bird whisperer)
Do not like.
- Friar Ticket to Ride
What happened?
- Anika
Are you okay?
- CarlC, spelling expert
:(
- Victor Ganata
:(((
- Jennifer Dittrich
:(
- Tamara J.
Two coworkers and I were eating Mexican food as once a week a restaurant sells their food at work and one coworker talked to the other about all kinds of topics but to me? About Mex food, if I knew where the restaurant was located, and how much she loved Mex food and would eat tacos all day. :/
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
I just saw your response on Twitter. Yeah, that's for the birds.
- Anika
Go ahead and make jokes, that was awkward for me. I'm not able to contribute to the /whole/ conversation? Way to make me feel the odd one out.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Thanks, Anika.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Ugh. It's amazing how ignorant people choose to be. My assistant is from El Salvador and she worked at a bank for 3 decades. She had a long-time former co-worker call her and wish her a happy Cinco de Mayo. *headdesk headdesk headdesk*
- Russian Space Lizard
Yeah, that's not right.
- John (bird whisperer)
Ugh! How are you doing?
- Katy S
I'm just going to maintain my distance. I don't know how I feel yet. Still weirded out.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Thanks, everyone. :))
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Take your time. Hard to know what to do with that.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
I'm sorry that happened. It should not have.
- RepoRat
Sorry you had ignorance as your dinner date. :(
- Janet:#TeamMonique
from FFHound!
what u cant control you cant control, so there's no point of beating the shit out of it. Just keep your distance and the next time you have lunch with them, politely tell them what you think of their convo.
- Peter Dawson
Janet, it was lunch not dinner and a coworker not a date. :)
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
I used date as a group of folks eating together. Whatever meal you enjoyed you still had ignorance at your table :)
- Janet:#TeamMonique
e niente...
Maya Bastanza, Mauro, marco frattola (sbarrax) and 25 other people liked this
wow...
- TaS
Le mani di mia mamma, che me le ha fatte arrivare appena rientrata da lavoro, secondo me una se l'è mangiata mia sorella in strada
- La Maestra
in effetti c'è un buco
- TaS
belle ( e devon essere pure molto buone)
- elena chesta
Ha ancora le mani d'oro e non lesina sugli ingredienti quindi le vengono davvero buone.
- La Maestra
io le faccio salate
- elena chesta
pardulas
- La Donna Cannonau
from BuddyFeed
gnam, ne vado matta U_U (per fortuna sono difficili da trovare in sabaudia)
- mu
ne sono rimaste due...
- La Maestra
finite, ed è confermato che erano sette, perché dice che le ha divise un po' a tutti e siamo 7
- La Maestra
I dont know what this is.. but surely looks yummy
- Peter Dawson
(qualcuno gli risponda e gli dica che sono fatti di pasta, formaggio fresco, zafferano, uova e zucchero, sopra hanno miele, diavolini e che sì sono ottimi)
- La Maestra
RT @neiltyson: For Geeks Only: How boy physicists propose to girl physicists (via @SteveLewis) http://imgur.com/SKNl3VR
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Amit Patel, Betsy #TeamMonique, ʎəlɹoɯ uəʞ and 5 other people liked this
big bang theory :)-
- Peter Dawson
That is the most awesome thing I've seen all day.
- Steven Perez
dotdotdot - http://dotdotdot-cl.tumblr.com/post...
Peter Dawson and Nevanta Media liked this
who is this ? face looks like some celeb
- Peter Dawson
Lounging in bed on my birthday...I'll get up soon. Meanwhile ALL THE FORUMS are emailing me. Haha!
Harold Cabezas, Stephen Mack #TeamMomo, Rodfather and 19 other people liked this
Happy Birthday!!! :-)
- Russian Space Lizard
Happy Birfday, Z!
- Uli - Sent to Coventry
Thank you!! :))
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Happy birthday, hope you'll be spoiled today!
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Happy Natal Anniversary!
- c.a.j.
Happy birthday!
- John (bird whisperer)
Happy Birthday, Zulema!
- Anne Bouey
Happy happy! Hope you have a marvelous one and that people buy you fabulous meals.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Happy Zu-Day!
- esther
Have a very happy day!
- Shannon - GlassMistress
Happy Birthday.
- Greg GuitarBuster
Happy birthday, Z Glam! Xoxo
- Tamara J.
from FFHound(roid)!
Happy birthday Zulema, hope it's a delightful one <3
- Starmama
from FFHound(roid)!
Thanks everyone! <3
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Enjoy the day!!!
- VALZ/TEAM TRAVIS
Happy B'day Zulema !!
- Peter Dawson
Ooh Happy Birthday!
- joey
happy birthday!
- AJ Batac
Happy birthday superwoman!
- SteVe C
happy birthday ms z :)
- chaz2b
Thanks, everyone!! <3
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Happy Birthday!!! I hope you are enjoying the day.
- CarlC, spelling expert
from Android
Thanks! ^_^
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Happy Birthday
- Mo Kargas
Happy Birthday!
- Kevin Johnson
Happy Birthday :)
- Rodfather
Thanks, guys!! :)
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Happy belated birthday, Zulema!! Hope you had a wonderful day! :)
- Harold Cabezas
from Android
Guilty pleasures night at the bunkhouse. :)))
sofarsoShawn ~presque..., ᏓᏰ #team Monique, Son of Groucho and 25 other people liked this
GIRLS GONE WILD!
- Spidra Webster
#$.99effyeah
- Adrian
For the record: I AM NOT THERE. I AM AT THE CABIN READING A BOOK.
- Eivind
Sure, Eivind. :)
- Anne Bouey
uh-huh *nods*
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
I will take that Reese's cup if you aren't going to eat it. :)
- JA Castillo
heheh breaking dawn dvd ?
- Peter Dawson
How many services will Google hamstring or cut to make G+ look better by comparison? Specifically, how long until they get to "we have to make Gmail worse"?
Hieronymous Thalidomide, Russian Space Lizard, Larry Hosken and 6 other people liked this
I'm betting, Youtube is next. Change the system so it is inside of G+. News will go away sometime. Maps will be pushed into G+ as well. Search, well just wrap G+ around the search bar and you got AOL/Yahoo all over again. What is old is new.
- Me
When you lay it out like that, News first. Youtube may have massive costs, but I gather it's breakeven to profitable now, and Search is profitable. Not sure about Maps, but Maps is at least strategically important in ways Reader and (IMO) News aren't. Drive was expanded since Google Docs 1.0 didn't get much traction and Dropbox was coming up fast, but I could see them killing off Drive too, or at least heavily G+-ifying it.
- Andrew C (✓)
they will hamstring whatever that needs to be hamstrung to get G+ traction. FB's platform is generating gaining more revenue then google ad's . So its a strategic battle to consolidate their programmers and being able to focus on what can make them totally Social !
- Peter Dawson
I forgot a few: Blogger will be probably closed. No money and move the people to use G+ as it is competing for content. "Why should you use Blogger when you can use your G+ account to post your thoughts??" Finance will go with News. Wallet is similar to Drive as it is integrated into your account already and with Android. Voice might be pushed into the GChat combined service as they are using that and could make money if they wanted to. Shopping will probably be pushed into G+.
- Me
news certainly will go away.. Youtube may not so soon, maps will get integrated. Drive and Doc' s will have to be seperate as G+ is social and Drive+Docs is basically for SME business (who into biz) and not there for social stuff.
- Peter Dawson
Oh yeah, Blogger will almost definitely be closed. That's a shame.
- Andrew C (✓)
In the end, Google will be just a dashboard of your email/chat/blog/social interaction with calendar, maps, videos and search bar above to search everyone elses information and then the web afterwards. Which will make it... AOL circa 1998
- Me
^^ That sounds like iGoogle, which they're killing.
- Anika
If/when they pull the plug on G+ (hey, it happened to Wave and Buzz), I hope the next one is called "Google*".
- Andrew C (✓)
I vote for "Google Classic"
- Me
Actually thinking about it.. Andrew's name works. Just have the Asterisk link to a disclaimer "All services are in beta and will be closed at our whim."
- Me
They'll call it "Google Wildcard" or "Google Multiply", but yeah, I'll call it "Asterisk" or "Disclaimer".
- Andrew C (✓)
I've got a custom URL for my blogger blog. How would that get ported to google+?
- Yo Joe. No, go slow.
Cname to your G+ profile url?
- Me
"You don't get to 500 million plus-ers by making your other stuff good and usable." <-- first draft
- Andrew C (✓)
I think Google's URLs are a sign that Google doesn't care about readable URLs. I remember the day when it was www.google.com/search?q=foo …
- Amit Patel
It's going to be one of those days where my battery never charges. It's holding steady at 21% and it's been plugged in for 30 mins straight.
Steven Perez, Jennifer Dittrich, John (bird whisperer) and Jeff (Team マクダジ ) liked this
well just change the plug point and plug it somewhere else !
- Peter Dawson
Ok. I'll try that. It's plugged in via USB so I'll try to different port.
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
RT @sup3rmark: Two weeks of no pope: baby cured of HIV, breath test for cancer, salt water found on moon of Jupiter. Day one with pope: Google Reader dies.
polymath22, Björn Brembs, Yo Joe. No, go slow. and 17 other people liked this
And the baby might never have had HIV http://online.wsj.com/article... h/t to Derrick
- Katy S
Hmm, is there doubt that the baby's HIV RNA PCR was positive? It might be a false positive, but detectable HIV RNA in the blood is usually interpreted as confirmation of infection.
- Victor Ganata
That I don't know. I choose to be skeptical until I see more proof.
- Katy S
It's actually fairly typical for viral load to be detectable on primary infection, then for viral load to drop to undetectable levels for years and years until CD4 counts start to drop. So I think it does make sense to be skeptical that's she's completely cured.
- Victor Ganata
I guess the infectious disease doc who wrote the WSJ piece does doubt the initial viral load test, though. If they started the anti-retrovirals right away without doing a confirmatory test, then we'll never know if that first test was real or not.
- Victor Ganata
Ugh, I don't know why I tried looking at the comments. It basically degenerates into gay bashing.
- Victor Ganata
Haven't there been proven incidences of babies being born without HIV when their moms had it?
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Oh, yeah, that's definitely happened. If they treat the mother with anti-retrovirals, there's a really good chance that the baby will have a negative test (although this actually doesn't rule out infection.) What's different here is that the baby supposedly had a positive test, got treated with 3 drugs instead of the usual 2, and has had at least one negative follow-up test about two years after treatment, even after presumably stopping the anti-retrovirals after 5 months when they were lost to follow-up.
- Victor Ganata
But since the latent phase of HIV infection where viral load is undectable can last for years and even decades, I think it's a little premature to declare she's "cured".
- Victor Ganata
As always, Victor, you keep us well-informed. <3
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
but whatever happened to google reader and Pope ?.. btw the med stuff is great leaning too
- Peter Dawson
Americans Seriously Digging Irish Whiskey: Sales Increased 400% In The Last 10 Years – Consumerist - http://consumerist.com/2013...
Iván Abrego, Iain Baker, Jennifer Dittrich and 2 other people liked this
"Maybe you cried when you heard about all that Scottish whisky going down the drain, but it sounds like Americans hold Irish whiskey in a very special place in our hearts: Drinkers have swilled enough of the stuff to give it an almost 400% boost in the booze market since 2002. It is much better than the green beer we see St. Patrick’s Day revelers chugging and often depositing into street corner trash cans. MarketWatch says Irish whiskey is the fastest growing category in the American spirits market with that 400% increase. Even in the last year it’s grown 22.5%, says the Distilled Spirits Council of the United States. The fun part about this news, apart from the fun to be had when sipping whiskey, is that it makes for all-new whiskeys. Because while of course the old favorites like Jameson and Tullamore Dew are always going to be cherished, it’s good to liven things up once in a while. “These are very, very good days for Irish whiskey,” says a marketing director with William Grant &...
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- John (bird whisperer)
from Bookmarklet
its Jameson all the way for me :)-
- Peter Dawson
No, Francis Xavier is not related to Charles Xavier….
Iván Abrego, Michael W. May, Micah and 10 other people liked this
Although I guess the Jesuits kind of are like the X-Men of the Church… :D
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Xavier Cugat?
- Hieronymous Thalidomide
Looking forward to "The Autobiography of Francis X"
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
was not Charles Xavier in X-Men ?
- Peter Dawson
6 degrees of Kevin Bacon says there is.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
Heh, I'd like to see that solution.
- Victor Ganata
Wikipedia's already updated! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
Lois Loves LB and Mr. B, Kelli H., Iván Abrego and 9 other people liked this
Is it the first that "Francis" name used?
- Deli Bedri
Yes.
- ellbeecee
Is it Francis or Francisco?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
so did the pope's people update that, or some enterprising newsies?
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Interesting, innovational Pope you have I think...
- Deli Bedri
Heh, I think someone must have gotten the Wikipedia page wrong for a moment. It's back to Francis now.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I think so. And as an admirer of Francis of Assisi...hopeful, to me, as a name, I think?
- ellbeecee
Either that or I just read it wrong.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Alex, I guess it's Francisco in Latin? (ETA thank you all for the corrections!)
- LB: #TeamMonique
The original Latin announcement called him Franciscum.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
It is Francis. He took it from Francis of Assisi
- Jenny
Who choose that name ? Does he do it himself ?
- Peter Dawson
It's 'Francis' in English. It's 'Francisco' in Spanish, 'Francesco' in Italian, and 'Franciscus' in Latin.
- Eivind
Oh well, if his name is Francis in lieu of Francis of Assisi, then all our animals are blessed !
- Peter Dawson
Francis in Latin would be "Franciscus" in the nominative, with other endings in other cases. ("Franciscum" is accusative case.) The pope chooses his own name.
- John (bird whisperer)
And he's not even 80 years old!
- Eivind
Yes, very "young" for a Pope...
- Deli Bedri
hes;76yrsyrs.. to me thats old..
- Peter Dawson
who knew. the Pope is actually Italian !! "one of the five children of an Italian railway worker"
- Peter Dawson
After John Paull reigned so long, you won't find them electing a Pope that younger than 70. Usually mid-70s is what you expect. He does choose the name himself.
- Jenny
He also said something about Madonna in his speech... I think, it depends on Argentina... Does anybody remember what did he say?
- Deli Bedri
He said the Hail Mary, but that's the only time I heard it mentioned?
- Jenny
Don't cry for me, Argentina?
- Eivind
Habemus Papam Franciscum: https://twitter.com/Pontife...
- Betsy #TeamMonique
He said something about praying to God, then praying to the Madonna. Then he led all in the Our Father, then the Hail Mary.
- Betsy #TeamMonique
Guess I missed it?
- Jenny
I think new Pope will be really beneficial for The Church.
- Deli Bedri
@Elvind funny :) But I don't think so :)
- Deli Bedri
(Between Spanish and French, I can pick out some Italian. I was semi translating the live feed to co-workers.)
- Betsy #TeamMonique
and he's a Jesuit to boot!
- Jenny
ancisco-Fray in Pig Latin. #irreverent
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
BBC News - 'Medieval knight' unearthed in Edinburgh car park dig - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...
Steven Perez, Michael W. May, esther and 25 other people liked this
"The remains of a medieval knight or nobleman found underneath a car park are to be moved to make way for a university building. The grave and evidence of a 13th Century monastery were uncovered when archaeologists were called to an Edinburgh Old Town building site. An elaborate sandstone slab, with carvings of a Calvary Cross and ornate sword, marked the grave."
- John (bird whisperer)
from Bookmarklet
"The car park was cleared to build a new Edinburgh Centre for Carbon Innovation. As part of low carbon measures for the University of Edinburgh scheme, work was being carried out in the former car park to create a rainwater harvesting tank for the new building. It was already known the area had been the site of the 18th Century Old High School, the 16th Century Royal High School and the...
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- John (bird whisperer)
Huh. Makes me wonder how much history is under car parks in that area of the world :)
- Jennifer Dittrich
This is what happens when you pave paradise and put up a parking lot.
- Hookuh Tinypants
Tinypants ftw.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
LOL
- John (bird whisperer)
We're not paving paradise … we're preserving paradise for future archaeologists!
- Amit Patel
Did they not Find some English King recently in some car park too ?
- Peter Dawson
The downsides of bodily resurrection.
- Todd Hoff
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked. "Only God is truly good. http://bible.us/116...
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Michael W. May, Eivind, Kelli H. and 6 other people liked this
The bible is like fortune cookies - much better if you ad "in bed" to the end of everything.
- SteVe C
HEATHEN. ;o)
- Headless Gnad Kicker
OMG, Steve just kilt me.
- Spidra Webster
LOL
- John (bird whisperer)
Oh, wow. LOL
- Jennifer Dittrich
x________________________x
- Pixie
Well, there WAS a lot of begatting in there somewhere.
- c.a.j.
That's actually one of my favorite scriptures... minus Steve's edit, of course.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
@Steve, nothing like the reading the Song of Solomon - in bed !
- Peter Dawson
"Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies. Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, I will get me to the mountain of myrrh, and to the hill of frankincense. Thou art all fair, my love; there is no spot in thee."
- Peter Dawson
Oh gosh all em scriptures class are now paying off .. I will caste to hell ! Now I gotta to say 3 Our fathers and 5 hail marys !!
- Peter Dawson
Monday, you're a bitch http://instagr.am/p... http://t.co/BaAYZyRfBH
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Iván Abrego, Jennifer Dittrich, Steven Perez and 5 other people liked this
*fans face*
- MoTO #TeamMonique
*fans Barry*
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from Android
Thanks, Zee. *faints*
- MoTO #TeamMonique
O_0
- Peter Dawson
PROJECT: Let's Get Tamara To Her Fundraising Goal -- 66% there, she needs $755 more by May 1st. She's running a FULL MARATHON to raise money for cancer research. EDIT: 100%!!!!!!!!! WE DID IT! THANK YOU FRIENDFEED! - http://pages.teamintraining.org/ocie...
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Pixie, Anne Bouey, #cryptic and 26 other people liked this
Hey beautiful FriendFeeders, Tam is running a FULL MARATHON to raise money for cancer research. But if she doesn't hit her $2,200 goal by May 1st, she can't run and she owes the difference to Team in Training. She's so supportive and loyal and has helped out many of us here, so let's make sure she reaches her goal! Many thanks to those of you who have already donated. Any bright ideas for how we can get her the rest of the way there? http://pages.teamintraining.org/ocie...
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
from Bookmarklet
More discussion here: http://friendfeed.com/express...
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
oh yeah I 4got. .what tthe tally now ? Wow its 66%.. comeon FF'ers we can do it !!
- Peter Dawson
70% now. :)
- Hookuh Tinypants
Woo-hoo!
- SteVe C
What?!? Stephen, you're awesome. Thanks so much! I'm humbled! $655 left to raise! <3
- Tamara J.
Yay!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
I'm at 78%. $475 to go!! Thanks so much, FFers. I love you guys. The donations are awesome and definitely make me and my cause feel supported, but that's not the reason I said I love you. When anyone is in need, whether it be because they've had a bad day, lost a loved one, down on their luck or whatever, this great group of people always rally to comfort and support each other with no expectations in return. Each of you are a gift to this community and I'm glad to be a part of it.
- Tamara J.
WOOT!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yay!
- Jennifer Dittrich
Run like the wind, pretty Tam Tam. :)
- Steven Perez
Now at 86% and $300 to go!
- Hookuh Tinypants
Can I donate a bead for sale?
- Shannon - GlassMistress
For a split second I thought you said bread and I was like OH HELL YEAH FF BAKESALE! :D
- Hookuh Tinypants
I could do bake sale, lol (just not sure its wise to do cash at this juncture)
- Shannon - GlassMistress
You guys are amazing. My heart swells with gratitude and love. I'm at 89% with $250 to go. I wish I could personally hug each of you who have supported me. I promise not to let you down and give my all to running this race for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society. We're funding a cure and that's exciting. Thank you all, again. <3
- Tamara J.
WOW! That is amazing. <3 You go on with your bad self, Tam! You are doing something wonderful and it's hard to not want to support that in some way. :)
- Hookuh Tinypants
I'm amazed! Great job all, this is such a wonderful community.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
done. :)
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
94%! $140 to go. Wouldn't it be cool if we brought in the rest of that while she's in surgery?
- Hookuh Tinypants
"surgery"?... where have I been?
- MoTO #TeamMonique
95%! And now just $100 to go!
- Hookuh Tinypants
Now 97% and just $75! OMG OMG OMG!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
YAY!!!
- Kelli H.
yeahhhhhhhhhhhh !! lets go Team FF
- Peter Dawson
99% :D
- Jennifer Dittrich
o_0
- Peter Dawson
99%. $2175 down, $25 to go. Let's break this bank, y'all!
- Hookuh Tinypants
DONE DONE DONE!!! WOO HOO!!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
100%! GO TAM! GO FRIENDFEED! #kermitflail
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
*fistbump* Mr. Mack bringing it home. :D All you people rock. Seriously effing rock. <3
- Hookuh Tinypants
I'm in tears. Just 1 day after I posted this, you did it. I love you all so much. Many thanks, FriendFeeders.
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
<3
- Kelli H.
100 % !! Way to Go Dudette's n Dudes !! Lub u all
- Peter Dawson
Now how about a road trip to San Diego on June 2nd to act as a cheering section.... :D
- Hookuh Tinypants
srly ?? the run is Jun 22nd ? thats like lightyears away.. and the goal was reached so soon ?
- Peter Dawson
#oohHookuh, don't tempt me.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
I bet we could bribe at least Stephen into joining us. We'd be the Hookuh-Moto-Mack Road Show!
- Hookuh Tinypants
I just died.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
^ Then who wrote this...? :)
- Stephan Planken
from iPhone
Really? Someone on Facebook is trying to tell me that I have to be either a deist or an atheist? Sorry dude, but I'm agnostic, which is neither of those things.
Starmama, Stephen Mack #TeamMomo, Iván Abrego and 5 other people liked this
When there are multiple meanings for a word, who gets to choose which one to use?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Surely you MUST believe that Nixon's favorite color was red or that his favorite color was not red. You MUST DECIDE.
- Amit Patel
YOU MUST CHOOSE! OR it will be chosen for you.
- Me
Nixon went to China so he must have loved red, but he was a president so he must also have loved green...Wait, how does my life depend on this?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, they said they were using the strict definition for the term. My reply to that was that I avoid fundamentalism wherever I can.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
But they are separate spectrums. I'm an agnostic atheist. There are agnostic deists, gnostic deists, agnostic atheists, and gnostic atheists.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
"Choose and perish!… Choose! Choose the form of the Destructor!"
- Victor Ganata
And then there are people like me who are just agnostic, period.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
You're probably an agnostic atheist.
- Jimminy IS Everybody
That they are separate spectrums is your belief, not mine.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
No, I am not.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Which would you default to if you weren't agnostic?
- Jimminy IS Everybody
I'm a cynical radical skeptical agnostic agnostic.
- Victor Ganata
Alex, this may have been your term, but I like the apatheistic agnostic category (I don't know for certain, and I don't really care).
- Tinfoil 2.0
I should probably stick "pragmatic" and "empiricist" somewhere in there too.
- Victor Ganata
It's turtles all the way down, Johnny.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Yep, Tinfoil and Victor, I can only say what my beliefs are, not what yours are...and I think we are all free to name our beliefs what we want.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice #airguitar
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
a comment of studied surrealism
- Greg GuitarBuster
Jimminy, that's an odd question, agnosticism is my default. How would I know where I would default to if that's my default?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I've been a deist and an atheist and neither of those positions, on further examination, felt right to me, so now I am just agnostic.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The default settings is on ROMv3.1. Alex you need to upgrade ur CMOS !
- Peter Dawson
Yeah, I'm older than a PDP11
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Did you tell them that on Facebook?
- Derrick
"Maybe" is a perfectly acceptable answer. Well, except for a computer, perhaps. But you could simulate that by flipping the bit back and forth forever.
- Victor Ganata
I know that Douglas Adams didn't make jokes in base 13 and probably not in base 2 either, but I think it's funny that 42 in decimal is 101010 in binary.
- Victor Ganata
As soon as there are definitions that everyone agrees on the universe will reset itself and start over again.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, Victor. Yes, Derrick, I did tell them that.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Well that's good. :)
- Derrick
Heh, you are an agnostic because you are hedging your bets?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I think I changed from atheism to agnostic because it was to me a very militant/fundamentalist stance. 90% of the world is wrong/delusional and all that. At some point I just realized that it doesn't really matter. You don't have to believe in something, even if it's nothing, to be a good person.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
I'm Johnny and I have bigger shit to worry about.
- Johnny
Hi Johnny, and how many days have you been sober? Oh wait, this isn't an AA meeting.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
It's Lint Staring 101
- Johnny
The whole thing does bring up a good question though...if a word has multiple meanings that may fit into a particular context, who decides which meaning to use?
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, Bren, interesting choice of words there "evangelism" considering what my brother does for a living. And not interesting as in poor.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yep, for whatever reason, I always think of Guy Kawasaki when people use that term.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
(1) experimental evidence (2) consensus (3) totalitarian dictator, in no particular order.
- Victor Ganata
In many ways, to me, choosing a god is like choosing a number for the lottery, yeah, you can't win if you don't play, but the odds pretty much say that you can't win even if you do play. The way I see it is that for every different religion there is a god or gods and even for every sect, not to mention you have to figure that with a universe this big there are other sentient beings out there. So the possibility exists that none of the human gods are the right one.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL, Victor, I guess that makes me a freedom fighter.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
And yes, this is my viewpoint. I don't expect many to share it, heh.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Isn't 'deist' usually used about people subscribing to 'deism' rather than 'theism' among the believers in supernatural, supreme beings?
- Eivind
Oh, sorry, Eivind, yes, I should have used theist instead of deist. For some reason I thought they were synonyms and just found out they are not.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
The theist buys a can and takes it on faith that what's in the can is what the merchant says is in there, without ever knowing in his lifetime if he has been sold a turd in a can or not. The atheist wants to see inside before he buys it. He wants the merchant to prove it's not a turd. The merchant is unable and says he has to buy it on faith, that he will get a can opener when he dies....
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- April Russo
wait, "someone on facebook is trying to tell me..." see, you should have stopped right there.
- MoTO #TeamMonique
It's a good thing I wear my hair in a french twist instead of a bun. French Twist Head just doesn't have the same ring. :-)
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i wear my hair in a bun sometimes. it helps when delivering a smackdown.
- jambina
"Twisted" works
- Steele Lawman
There isn't a non-creepy way to say that buns are hot, is there? :|
- Andy
Steve, :-P Andy, no dice. :-)
- lris
I thought the show "bunheads" was going to be about librarians. I wuz wrong.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
I initially read this as "french kiss head" ... LOL
- Peter Dawson
Every time someone sticks "futurist" in their bio, I can't help but ask "WTF?"
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Every time I see that mentioned, I pretty much assume that person better be William Gibson. I think I'd be OK if he claimed that.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Harlan Ellison was once called a "noted futurist" in a car commercial. He said the reason why they called him that is because it sounded better than "paid liar".
- Steven Perez
I can't help but think they are secretly hiding Rosie the house cleaning robot in their home, and won't share.
- April Russo
I thought I might be a futurist back in the 70's (see: Alvin Toffler) but then the 90's happened and it turned out I was a hobbyist historian who had been waiting for the right moment.
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
What's so bad about it? Something similar to "social media consultant"? Sorry, I don't get it - maybe because the term has a slightly different meaning in Europe.
- esther
Futurist is not a word.
- Heleninstitches
I don't even know what it means. Or is supposed to mean.
- Headless Gnad Kicker
it's an art movement :)
- Pete #TeamMonique
A fart movement.
- Headless Gnad Kicker
It *was* an art movement.
- esther
(an example http://xabaras.tumblr.com/post... Depero)
- Xabaras (G.O.)
The term existed prior to the 70's (in multiple contexts), but in the U.S. it was the publication of books such as Future Shock in 1970, and The Third Wave in 1980 that brought the term into the popular vernacular, and referred primarily to a sociological context. Earlier references tended to run the gamut from the technological to the economic, and even to religious studies. When I was...
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- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
http://youtu.be/6Ghzomm... Okay, that was supposed to start at the 1:30 mark, but for some reason starts at the very beginning. It's a pretty awful beginning, so I suggest jumping to the 1:30 mark to save yourself from some horrific early 70's hyper dramatic schlock. (Unless you want a good laugh at some "Future Schlock".) <-- I made a funny.
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
I know the art movement, thank you. But when someone claims himself a futurist in a bio today, we all know it means something else. Is the changing meaning the problem? Probably an affront?
- esther
Esther- we have a lot of futurists in librarianship. I believe 'informed guesser' would be a good translation :) The art movement comment was tongue in cheek ;)
- Pete #TeamMonique
You say "informed guesser" like it's a bad thing.
- esther
It's the uninformed guessers that bother me. Hello! Do you have any idea what I'm already doing every day?
- Rebecca Hedreen
I could guess, but I'm uninformed
- esther
It's a shorthand version of 'Okay I'm gonna say something but promise you won't laugh'
- Faruk Ahmet
I suppose it is less preposterous than "psychic" or "self-proclaimed prophet"
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Esther- sometimes it is a bad thing, when the informed guessing is partial and pushing an agenda :)
- Pete #TeamMonique
Thanks all, I think I got it now ;)
- esther
Well, that certainly makes more sense than -ist to mark agency, like in artist or pianist or contortionist.
- Victor Ganata
I'm a uniformed futurologist. My uniform is made from nanotubes. I'm devoted to bringing urology into the 21st century, because heretofore the field mostly been pissing away opportunities for advancement. I mean, Foley catheters, for cryin' out loud! Is that the best we can come up with?!! #whatthehelldoesanyofthismean?
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
"Futurist" just sounds a lot better than "Wild-ass Guesser."
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
Can I put Dr.Who in my Bio ?
- Peter Dawson
"Is this hovering computer mouse real or fake?" http://kolt.at/13EXHGf
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looks like it steped out of a star wars movie !
- Peter Dawson
Very futurist. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Better shots of the bracelets.
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Well, I think they are better, but you'll have to tell me what you think :D
- Shannon - GlassMistress
awwwwww. these are so kewl. are they on the website ?
- Peter Dawson
They are, I just listed them this morning :D
- Shannon - GlassMistress
GÜZEL, AFERİN.
- bychemist
Nice! You are def on to something with the style. oooh, dragonfly!
- t-ra: not givin up
Word of advice: if you want one, snap it up ASAP. I made the mistake of trying to wait until payday and all of the beads I want are now gone. :-/
- Hookuh Tinypants
shop is here http://www.etsy.com/shop...
- Peter Dawson
and it's been sold... sigh.
- Lnorigb
PHOTO: HYBRID WOLVES ROAMING NJ! (WAIT WHAT'S A HYBRID WOLF?!): Gothamist - http://gothamist.com/2013...
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Never heard of 'em. But they look cute. :)
- ronin
from Bookmarklet
I worked with someone who had one, but it was nowhere near that 'wolfy' looking - just a really big dog. They're not legal in a bunch of places.
- Jennifer Dittrich
I don't care how good the owner is. I wouldn't go near a wolf hybrid.
- Rodfather
I love wolves, I always have. But they are not pets, no matter what anyone says. And it's irresponsible to interbreed them. People are so obsessed with the idea of a wolf they forget what it means for an animal to be wild, and that breeding a wolf with a dog often leads to the worst mix of both. Ugh!
- Heather
yeah this is a mix between a wolf and coyote- coywolf ( they just shoot one in Toronto - couple wks ago) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Peter Dawson
There are coywolves (most of our "coyotes" are actually hybrids), but this one was a wolf X dog mix.
- John (bird whisperer)
Today I am wearing the closest thing to pajamas that I have in my wardrobe. It's spring break - comfort is king this week.
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loose fitting trousers....common in the far east.
- Mary Carmen
whats the meaning of pajamas ?
- Peter Dawson
There's no hope for new pope not being an old white guy is there?
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There's a small chance of it being an old non-white guy, but I doubt that will happen.
- John (bird whisperer)
The old white guys get very anxious around the social justice issues the old brown guys tend to want to talk about....
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
If they ever did elect a nun or an old brown guy i'd actually start thinking I should listen to what they have to say
- SteVe C
Yeah, the Vatican hasn't ever really seemed to be all that sympathetic to anti-colonialism and liberation theology despite how much it fits with the Gospels, but I guess we'll see.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
White puff of smoke. 'Nuff said.
- Micah
from FFHound(roid)!
The non-white papabili that I've read about aren't all that appealing. Then again, the white ones aren't either.
- John (bird whisperer)
Aren't the odds makers pushing for less than ancient brown person?
- Janet:#TeamMonique
I dunno, the Church may be big on the Hope part, but not so much on the Change part. And they haven't even ever chosen a non-European, much less a PoC.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
I don't think anyone could reasonably accuse the Catholic Church as a whole of being progressive, although there are certainly organizations and ideologies that are even more reactionary.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
It would certainly be revolutionary if they did choose someone from outside of Europe, even if the candidate is even more hard-core conservative than Ratzinger. I mean, we are talking about an organization that took four centuries to apologize for wrongfully condemning and imprisoning Galileo. Small steps :D
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
I dunno, if you go by JP2's encyclicals, the Church has pretty much accepted the facts of the theory of evolution (although they still disagree about a purely materialistic explanation for consciousness.) Ratzinger was less forthcoming, but he never directly contradicted his predecessor. Most Catholics aren't biblical literalists anyway. They do move forward on some things, eventually.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
The majority of Cardinals are old white guys appointed by reactionary old white guy Pope. Expecting big change is unrealistic despite the current faith crisis of umm biblical proportions
- WarLord
I'd be amused to see a pope of any creed or colour say "Look under your seats...birth control for EVERYBODY! Wait, what? You were already using it anyway? Ah well, I guess that makes it okay for me to use it too."
- Le Slip Anglais
from Android
I don't think it would be a total and complete doctrinal crisis if a pope ever said "While we still believe certain acts are sinful, if you're going to sin, wear a condom so you don't kill people" but then again, I'm no longer a practicing Catholic.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Zero Tolerance pope is needed FAST - http://www.catholicnews.com/data...
- Peter Dawson
I'd say there are actually lots of full-time employees of the Catholic Church who are progressive...but they're also female and kept out of the primary hierarchy.
- Walt Crawford
I do believe the current pope and JPII were progressive with their Caridnal choices.
- Janet:#TeamMonique
They should allow the Cardinals to tweet during the conclave :)-
- Peter Dawson
if Progressive = cover up the scandals and sexual abuse , then yes, they were very progressive !!
- Peter Dawson
@Walt, my ears burn when I am with my nun friends and they share their progressive thoughts. These are the ladies working in the trenches so to speak and have a much greater experience in the human needs. These are also the nuns that had the Vatican witch hunt two years ago.......
- Janet:#TeamMonique
Oh, there are definitely progressive Catholics (liberation theology has, after all, been attacked as Christianized Marxism) but, yeah, I was referring more to the formal hierarchy.
- Victor Ganata
from iPhone
Janet: Yep. My wife was library director at a Catholic-order-run university for years, and she has nothing but admiration for the nuns. And she's even further from being Catholic than I am (she's an honest-to-nothing atheist, not a waffling agnostic).
- Walt Crawford
beautiful story about nuns who "work in the trenches" http://killingthebuddha.com/mag...
- ufuk
RT @peiplumber: Based on obesity rates YES Ban junk food marketing to kids under 12, panel urges | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun http://www.torontosun.com/2013...
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Why only under 12 ? just ban junk food Marketing . PERIOD !!
- Peter Dawson
Wildlife Extra News - Owl mystery unravelled: Scientists explain how bird can rotate its head without cutting off blood - http://www.wildlifeextra.com/go...
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Medical illustrators and neurological imaging experts at Johns Hopkins have figured out how night-hunting owls can almost fully rotate their heads - by as much as 270 degrees in either direction - without damaging the delicate blood vessels in their necks and heads, and without cutting off blood supply to their brains.
- Halil
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"Until now, brain imaging specialists like me who deal with human injuries caused by trauma to arteries in the head and neck have always been puzzled as to why rapid, twisting head movements did not leave thousands of owls lying dead on the forest floor from stroke," says study senior investigator and interventional neuroradiologist Philippe Gailloud, M.D. "The carotid and vertebral...
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- Halil
I'm surprised no one tried this sooner, but fascinating stuff.
- Halil
Nature has much to teach us.
- Peter Dawson
The best way to learn foreign languages is through the patterned repetition of the most common brief sentences -- sentence-based.
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Sort *language sentences by frequency of occurrence.
- Sean McBride
We learn words best by associating them with other words -- with their semantic networks -- with their most frequently cooccurring words.
- Sean McBride
No. I know many people here in Germany who are in the situation you described, but they either have just a very basic grasp of the language, or their competences are specialised as to their communicative needs. I think Sean's assumption is right. Would be interesting to hear from people who tried something like that when learning a particular foreign language.
- Maitani
This is a toughie. I don't think theres an answer; its such an individual thing. Most native English speaking people in the US have no need to learn a foreign language and will never use the foreign language instruction they had to take in high school, just a fact. Its hard to say whats an effective way of learning (or teaching) something useless but big.
- Berthe
Learning foreign words individually, in isolation, is inefficient. Learn them within the context of their most natural and frequent word cooccurrences and clusters.
- Sean McBride
Sentences are semantic assertions and propositions about the world which describe conceptual and functional relations among objects and entities.
- Sean McBride
cristo -- yes, the sink or swim method -- connect language learning to the satisfaction of pragmatic and immediate needs -- that can be effective (although within certain limits). But it is difficult to create that kind of learning environment.
- Sean McBride
I've looked at at least six methods closely: Berlitz, Duolingo, Mango, Memrise, Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone. My experience is that a sentence-based approach, right from the start, is more efficient for plunging into a foreign language than a word- and phrase-based approach. Duolingo may be my favorite method at the moment -- but it needs tweaking.
- Sean McBride
Google needs to build up lists of the most frequently occurring sentences in all languages. That would be a valuable database to exploit for many projects and purposes.
- Sean McBride
Words acquire meaning and semantic richness and resonance by their associations with one another -- by their types of relations and the proximity and intensity of those relations. Sentences specify and describe those relations.
- Sean McBride
Duolingo is here: http://duolingo.com/
- Sean McBride
When learning a new sentence, one should have the option to: 1. hear repetitive pronunciations of the sentence by multiple native speakers at both slow and natural speeds 2. hear repetitive pronunciations of each word and phrase in the sentence by multiple native speakers at both slow and natural speeds 3. see the pronunciation of words in the sentence in simple English syllables 4. see...
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- Sean McBride
No current foreign language learning method incorporates all these techniques.
- Sean McBride
Learning a foreign language is much like learning to play tennis or the piano -- it's all about developing automatic muscle and nerve memory -- repetition, repetition, repetition. The process is as much physical as conceptual -- perhaps more physical than conceptual. One must establish well-worn neural pathways.
- Sean McBride
Google challenge: sort English sentences in the New York Times from 2000 through 2012 by frequency of occurrence -- sort English sentences in *domain *time by frequency of occurrence.
- Sean McBride
I've been thinking about this. You might have something there, Sean. I think of 2 sentences I learned at least 50 years ago in very first language classes that stick with me: "Il faut que j'aille a la bibliotheque." - the subjunctive! and "Essen in freien schmekt gut." Of course, everyone knows "La plume de ma tante est sur le bureau de mon oncle."
- Berthe
So, learning by sentences isn't new. But it certainly has not been developed as a way to teach foreign language.
- Berthe
The trick is to start with the most frequently occurring sentences -- which are the most simple and most practical -- and build from there in a systematic way towards more complex and less frequent sentences. Learn new vocabulary in the context of learning new sentences.
- Sean McBride
I think most school language courses want to teach students to read and write, i.e. to read novels and to write essays. This is probably a bad effort for most people. I have no need to read a book in French and I should rather find a good translation.
- Berthe
Did you mean "Essen im freien schmeckt gut" -- Food tastes great outdoors?
- Sean McBride
I remember my 11th grade French teacher having us read "La Symphonie Pastorale" (Gide) and "L'Etranger" (Camus). It seems absolutely ridiculous to me, honestly and just shows that the principal wasn't supervising her. The themes of those novels would have been inappropriate if we had understood them. She also had us read Madame Bovary which I remember getting the English translation for so that I could understand it. A great book and should be read in the reader's native language, not as an exercise.
- Berthe
Yeah, "outdoors" or in the fresh air.
- Berthe
What was Rosetta Stone like? What is their method?
- Berthe
Another "short" method to combine with actual sentences could be to memorize poetry and use recordings by actors. It would give the learner a sense of the language, the atmosphere of the language.
- Berthe
One should see "La plume est sur le bureau" (the pen is on the desk) long before seeing "La plume de ma tante est sur le bureau de mon oncle" (The pen of my aunt is on the desk of my uncle).
- Sean McBride
Rosetta Stone is organized around matching images and photos with foreign language words and phrases -- it works quite well up to a point, but it has its limitations.
- Sean McBride
Simple poems (especially rhyming poems) spoken by native voices with strong character is one fast track into the heart of a foreign language.
- Sean McBride
I know quite a few very bright young people who took several years of foreign language (usually Spanish) in school --- usually beginning in 5th or 6th grade and then starting over with Spanish I and Spanish II in high school. But they couldn't pass a proficiency test when they went to college so had to take Spanish I and Spanish II again. Then they did a study abroad for a semester. And...
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- Berthe
Google challenge: 1. sort *language words by frequency of occurrence. 2. sort *language phrases by frequency of occurrence. 3. sort *language sentences which mention *word by frequency of occurrence. 4. sort *language sentences which mention *phrase by frequency of occurrence. Drill yourself in the most frequent sentences for the most fequent words and phrases.
- Sean McBride
I am not sure if it is Rosetta Stone but there is one language course that advertises on TV that has a guy say something in French that is unintelligible. I think he's saying, "J'aime quand je parle francais" but I am not sure. There must be a demand for learning languages or there wouldn't be TV advertisements.
- Berthe
Some people learn foreign languages simply because it is fun and mentally stimulating -- it keeps your mind sharp. Many other people need to learn foreign languages as quickly as possible for professional reasons.
- Sean McBride
The real question here: can we use scientific and quantitative methods to discover and develop the most efficient techniques for mastering foreign languages (or any knowledge domain).
- Sean McBride
Semantic Web folks tend to be strongly interested in the underlying conceptual structures and processes which connect all natural languages. That is where I am coming from on this topic.
- Sean McBride
Thats a good question. Math is another one. The schools do such a poor job and theres where the money is to design the method. But I despair that it can happen given the entrenched obstacles. If I was designing a foreign language course, I would do the sentences, interchangeable words, memorization of words, short poems (poems on the level of Poe's "The Raven" - every language must have...
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- Berthe
Repetition of sentences with variations on single elements within the sentence: example: [The *person-type ate a mango.] 1. The girl ate a mango. 2. The boy ate a mango. 3. The man ate a mango. 4. The woman ate a mango. 5. The doctor ate a mango. 6. The lawyer ate a mango. 7. The teacher ate a mango. 8. The aunt ate a mango. 9. The uncle ate a mango. And: [The girl *eat-tense a mango.]...
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- Sean McBride
Sounds good - Sean, are you working on something? I remember trying the Duolingo and the problem was with advancing to the next level because it required you give them the exact response they had in their program. It didn't work.
- Berthe
Europeans are much more proficient at foreign languages than Americans because they have a greater practical need to use them.
- Sean McBride
With Duolingo, I can quickly figure out the exact response it is looking for. My main complaint: Duolingo moves too slowly. I want the option to accelerate the rate of progress. I only need to see a sentence a few times to lock it up.
- Sean McBride
Bottom line: future foreign language learning methods are going to be sofware-centric, algorithm-centric and machine-learning-centric. The user interface will count for a great deal. Traditional textbooks are out. Personalized smart interactivity is the name of the game. The "tutor" will learn about you as you learn from it, and it will continuously adjust its behavior to optimize your learning.
- Sean McBride
has any1 tried Memrise.com ?
- Peter Dawson
I have -- I am still evaluating it now.
- Sean McBride
Yes, I thought so too, Its too slow. I hope you're right and that foreign language instruction will improve using those new concepts but my gut reaction is that it won't. Its been a long time that they could have progressed from text books and what we are talking about above was always available. Most foreign language instruction will be in schools and the structure of exams and homework will not allow for innovation, I think.
- Berthe
Re: Memrise: some good concepts, but the overall interface is too clunky and slow -- it needs to be refined and sped up.
- Sean McBride
Old school methods -- who cares? :) Interesting minds will breeze right past that clutter with innovative methods.
- Sean McBride
In the 90's I was thinking that computers would revolutionize secondary school math instruction because you could do problems over and over and get immediate response to show you where you went wrong or to tell you you have mastered something. It hasn't happened. These are wonderful tools, I am sure.
- Berthe
Sean, if you are working on something, I want to pass along the idea of using fables. There are good recordings of fables and they are short and have a point that is easy to understand. In fact, thats another one I remember from 50 years ago: Maitre Corbeau sur un arbre perche lui teint dans son bec un fromage.
- Berthe
Fables are a higher level of abstraction than I am focused on at the moment: atomic sentences, not narratives and stories. Master sentences, and stories will automatically fall into place.
- Sean McBride
The issue here: the precise cognitive science of foreign language learning.
- Sean McBride
You might find this interesting http://www.designandanalytics.com/Learnin...
- Greg GuitarBuster
cristo -- regarding childhood native language learning -- doesn't repetition play an important role, along with practical (and needy) interactions with the real physical world around one? How often does one first hear the words mommy, daddy, milk, etc.?
- Sean McBride
cristo -- regarding learning programming languages: perhaps the greatest impetus and motivator is having some urgent problem one wants to solve or some interesting idea to implement. One focuses on and masters the techniques that will permit one to solve the problem or implement the idea. It needs to be personal -- hooked up to one's imagination -- not purely abstract and "textbook."
- Sean McBride
Greg -- great article! Right on point.
- Sean McBride
Greg -- this is where Adam Hogan and I differ -- I think we need to focus on prioritized SENTENCE lists, not prioritized word lists -- although prioritized word and phrase lists are part of the mix.
- Sean McBride
Google has the resources to apply Big Data mining methods to sentences and foreign language learning in the same way that is has applied Big Data mining methods to advancing the science of speech recognition.
- Sean McBride
cristo -- what I am thinking is that the data mined by Google about the most frequent words, phrases and sentences among all the languages in the world could be used by designers of foreign language learning methods to optimize the learning process.
- Sean McBride
cristo -- picture an endless series of sentence-based flashcards scientifically prioritized by importance (frequency of occurrence by language users in the real world).
- Sean McBride
I can't picture Sarah Palin learning anything. Not doable.
- Sean McBride
The domain of language is more amenable to systematic and atomic decomposition than the domain of foreign policy. The pieces are easier to identify and combine formally.
- Sean McBride
That is an entirely different line of research -- and a very important one. Eventually we may download or plug knowledge packs directly into our brains. The approach I am suggesting is doable now.
- Sean McBride
Another way to look at this: smart personal assistants may become so capable that there will be no practical need for us to master knowledge in many or most domains -- our "guardian angels" will handle whatever comes up.
- Sean McBride
Well, Duolingo and Mango are essentially using variations on the flashcard approach (mastering one knowledge atom at a time in an organized way), and I find this works for me and many people I know. What products do you recommend?
- Sean McBride
One key element: making "flashcards" incredibly powerful and full of useful features -- including audio, images, video, mouseovers and popups for auxiliary and background information, etc. We are not talking about traditional and static text-only flashcards.
- Sean McBride
I have used Pimsleur a great deal (mostly while driving) to get into three or four languages. I'm a big fan. But it has many limitations compared to multimedia flashcards. Its patterned repetition algorithms are especially interesting. When you think about it, the Pimsleur approach is based on audio-only flashcards -- one small item at a time.
- Sean McBride
What I am talking about is more like next-generation Duolingo and Mango than Rosetta Stone.
- Sean McBride
Pimsleur uses the same question/pause/response format as flashcards. In fact, it would be easy to convert Pimsleur to multimedia flashcards -- the backbone is there.
- Sean McBride
If you want to drive, use audio-only mode for multimedia flashcards -- they will have several modes of interaction.
- Sean McBride
I need to think about your theory. Regarding Pimsleur: it's not based on a comprehensive scientific understanding of sentence frequencies in real world language usage. Pimsleur lacks the data.
- Sean McBride
In order to conduct conversations in a foreign language, you need to be able to understand and form sentences. The question is, what is the quickest and most efficient route to that mastery. Of course, conducting conversations pushes along the learning process.
- Sean McBride
Limitations of Pimsleur: I often want to see the spellings of words and their grammatical background. It's unidirectional. Multimedia flashcards should be conceptually multidirectional -- provide the ability to explore the full context of any word or phrase.
- Sean McBride
If you are waiting for a flight, have a good trip.
- Sean McBride
Hope you're off to an interesting destination.
- Sean McBride
Your favorite destination of all, I trust.
- Sean McBride
Peter -- main impressions of Memrise: 1. word-based, not sentence-based (a minus) 2. the memory aid system gets in the way -- I don't need it 3. like the audio 4. needs to move much faster.
- Sean McBride
Sentence-based along with some sort of immersion or regular usage seems to be the best way to go. Downloading knowledge packs directly into the brain sounds interesting, but how safe would that be? The benefits are obvious, but would there be any drawbacks?
- Todd
Todd, I don't think I'd volunteer to be the first! :)
- Berthe
Berthe, I seems dangerous to me, but I know that scientists have been monkeying with the brains of chimps, dogs and other animals for years with interesting results. I'd just hate to be the example where mistakes were made.
- Todd
Why physically implant knowledge in human brains that can be easily carried around in one's pocket, wallet, eyeglasses or hat?
- Sean McBride
A more interesting question might be, can we genetically engineer species with superhuman intelligence?
- Sean McBride
Sean, I guess your second question gets to the heart of your first. The ability to use information, whether implanted or carried around still depends on the limits of the individual. That's the same with computer hardware and software compatibility. As a non-superhuman, I don't know if I like the idea of superhumans. I'm sure attempts have been made, and it would be an impressive achievement. But I think some things should be left undone.
- Todd
Nothing that can be done will be left undone -- that seems to be human nature. A dangerous personality trait I know, but that's who we are.
- Sean McBride
The question is, how can one optimize drill, practice and repetition by prioritizing exposure to particular sentences (and particular words and phrases) in the most effective way? What is the quickest and least wasteful method to achieve mastery of a foreign language?
- Sean McBride
That's a good question. I'm not sure what the answer is, but it would have to include learning the basics of grammar and some immersion with native speakers who are well spoken and current with the language. I would think the process is easier if you are already bilingual.
- Todd
The question can be answered with data science and access to enough data -- Google is in a better position to answer this question than anyone -- and I suspect it will within the next few years.
- Sean McBride
The big picture here: thinking about questions of foreign language learning from a data science perspective leads one into all kinds of interesting issues regarding text mining, computational linguistics, statistical linguistics, natural language processing, machine translation, etc. The topic is about much more than foreign language learning -- it's a useful pathway into a nexus of closely connected natural language issues.
- Sean McBride
But it would also be neat to be able to master a foreign language with the absolute minimum time and effort necessary by learning the most important elements in the most effective sequence.
- Sean McBride
I need to reboot this year. Who's with me?
Just Kidée: Road Warrior, Tamara J., John (bird whisperer) and 13 other people liked this
*raises hand*
- Katy S
ahhhhYUP.
- Russian Space Lizard
Yessiree Bob!
- Friar Ticket to Ride
I thought if I stopped eating pork this year that might be enough, but I might have to commit to be meat free altogether soon. I don't want to have to wait until another NYE to change my resolution ;)
- Jason - The Opaque
omg, totally
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
Me 7!!!!! :)
- Lois Loves LB and Mr. B
yes, with heavier boots.
- Greg GuitarBuster
At least taller, better insulated boots.
- Rebecca Hedreen
When I look at the Batman reboot or the Superman reboot or the Spiderman reboot or the James Bond reboot it almost always ends up being darker and less pleasant than the original. Be careful with your reboot! :)
- Amit Patel
can I join ?
- Peter Dawson
Yes. I wasted the whole month of Feb doing non-cash client work when I was going to do a bunch of direct mail and teleseminars and be rolling in dough by March.
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
Amit, you have a good point there. Hrm.
- LB: #TeamMonique
For fear of the darker reboot, may we just rethong?
- Janet:#TeamMonique
Heh.
- LB: #TeamMonique
If you look close enough, you should see a van in this pic.
Halil, samet, Jennifer Dittrich and 27 other people liked this
Give me a hint.
- Anika
Where , where ???
- Peter Dawson
It's hard to explain. I barely see it.
- AJ Batac
Is it hiding behind the four-wheeled reflection of my last nightmare?
- Le Slip Anglais
heh
- AJ Batac
I bet it would disappear completely if it were in BADSWEATERLAND!
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
It's like Russell Westbrook. It's there, but you seem to ignore it. (his teammates are there but he doesn't pass.)
- AJ Batac
BUMP
- AJ Batac
That upside-down drab green fishing boat seems to be magically hovering about 7 feet off the ground. How can this be?!
- Jkram|ɯɐɹʞſ
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