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My youngest princess is 1 year old now
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Steven Perez, Kol Tregaskes, Alexis Hope and 33 other people liked this
Happy birthday to her!
- Laura id stubbed ub.
maximum awww factor!
- Jim Hearts FF
Happy Birthday!
- Anne Bouey
<3
- Yolanda
You have a beautiful little girl.
- Sarah June
YEAH!!!
- David Cook
I will never get sick of cute baby pictures on the Web. Adorable!
- Martha
Happy birthday from Denmark... She' very pretty....
- Jeannette Høvring
Happy birthday!
- Anika
Happy birthday little one!
- ffcode
enjoy every moment my princess is 35.........
- VAL D.
Leaked documents from the IAEA say Iran will start up the once-secret facility outside the holy city of Qom in 2011.
Peter Dawson, RAPatton and Roberto Bonini liked this
someone just offered me a place for my birthday party. (funny, I didn't know I'm having a party at my birthday...)
Peter Dawson and ffcode liked this
Audrey and Stella play with a package bow together.
nakachi, Michael W. May, PENGUIN: MAJOR CAPS LOCK and 48 other people liked this
*love*
- Ayşe E.
OMG when did she reach Cat-sized?!
- Matthew DeVries
the little footies!!! x_x
- Yolanda
*dead*
- Derrick
so sweet!
- Anna Haro
Let the battle begin...
- Johnny Worthington
Haha. And that huge cloth diaper butt!
- Rochelle
diaper booty is the ultimate in baby cute :)
- aden (yeah you heard me)
Johnny: I've got all my money on the cat till Audrey is 4. Then even money till age 6-7.
- SAM
that's super cute
- Chieze Okoye
That's a big freaking cat!
- @CrystalinaB
Has Audrey done anything yet the cats would see as aggressive? Ear pull, tail pull, swat? How did the cats take it? My friends have doberman and February 2009 model babby. The babby totally loves this dog, crawls after it, does NOTHING but watch/play with the dog if it's in the room, won't eat, etc. I can't believe that dog is so ok with him, cause in my experience, dobermans live to rips peoples face off.
- Matthew DeVries
Heheh... Dobermans only like to munch on adult face. It's so neat to watch animals around small chitlins... they have that sense that says... be gentle. Love watching that interaction.
- SAM
Indiana Thinks The Computer is Boring
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Soup, nakachi, Roberto Bonini and 74 other people liked this
Love it!
- rowlikeagirl
She was also kind of in my way. Silly kitty.
- Rachel Lea Fox
You both look great.
- Spidra Webster
thats a big cat!
- Bryan Lee
*waves to Rach and kitteh*
- Micah Wittman
Spidra, Thanks! Bryan, that's a cat sitting very close to the monitor!
- Rachel Lea Fox
*waves to Micah* Indy ditched me so she can't wave.
- Rachel Lea Fox
My fave of Indy is that 2nd shot. Hilarious exprssion. Very manga.
- Spidra Webster
That cat doesn't look real.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
That is awesome! I love Indiana - and not just b/c she resembles another little gray cat we know.
- Katy S
Spidra, me too! She is yawning but she almost looks like she is yelling or something odd. Suezanne, she is real, she is a very odd little cat, but very real. Katy, totally! I would say that Plum and Indiana should meet someday but Indy has a bit of a stick up her but about other cats (it even takes her some time to adjust to the kittens). They are both such cool cats though!!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Maybe, but Virginia thinks Rachel is adorable!
- Ladybug Heather
Thanks Heather. Wait, all of Virginia thinks I'm adorable? I mean I know they did when I was 2 yo and lived there, but now? Goodness, that is a lot of people for Kevin to fight off. Well, all of Indiana will have to stare them down! ;)
- Rachel Lea Fox
Well, I am sure Indiana finds that it isn't as exciting as pillaging tombs, raiding lost artifacts or fighting Nazi's
- RAPatton
lol!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Russian Blue's ROCK!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
RAPatton, actually I think this is her "I haven't had an adventure in a long time, can't someone lose an important artifact to the Nazi's please" look. I'm sure I'll find her hunting Nazi's in the rafters in just a few days. ;)
- Rachel Lea Fox
:)
- JA Castillo
I'm with Suezanne. Have the Cat hold today's paper.
- Mark Krynsky
I don't have today's paper Mark. But I'll find something later. In other news Indiana takes good care of me and brought me my slippers. She always tries to make sure I keep my feet warm and don't catch a cold! :)
- Rachel Lea Fox
YouTube
- Sesame Street & The Origin of Om nom nom nom - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Onur Gündüz, rowlikeagirl, Jennifer Dittrich and 32 other people liked this
"Why me not get royalties on this?" *dead*
- cecily
from Bookmarklet
lol x_x
- Anna Haro
Why is Kirsten Dunst feigning that ANZAC accent?
- Matthew DeVries
That isn't Kirsten Dunst. It's Ella from Rocketboom: http://sprinkleofginger.com/
- cecily
First: Look at cookie!
- Jason Toney
I heard this on NME radio from London yesterday.......
- VAL D.
oh there you are Iain ............I heard it from you
- VAL D.
This is adorable.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
"me monster. me not picky."
- tiffany
i sent this to my mom. she loved it.
- tiffany
ROFL! Brilliant!
- rowlikeagirl
NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Charles Heaton, VAL D., Andrew Johnson and 13 other people liked this
And yes, cilantro and bunneh in the same photo.
- Steven Perez
Looks like she/he's smiling?? Cute... ♥
- Jeannette Høvring
He. And what can I say? Bunnehs love cilantro. :)
- Steven Perez
That is one happy bunneh :)
- aden (yeah you heard me)
Bindu Reddy ---> http://friendfeed.com/bindu - http://likaholix.com/sofarso...
Holly Rae, FFer, Peter Dawson, Todd Hoff and 2 other people liked this
Cuz she's a sweet heart :o)
- sofarsoShawn
from Likaholix
he he...thanks :)
- Bindu Reddy
Is this an Internet crush brewing?
- Cristo
Juliette Binoche
Jessie, Christopher Harley, Peter Dawson and 7 other people liked this
...just because I like her... ;)
- JA Castillo
she's beautiful
- Anna Haro
I have her on the brain after watching, "Dan in Real Life" last night...
- JA Castillo
Preliminary Results of Largest Global Cash Smuggling Operation - http://www.dhs.gov/ynews...
Peter Dawson liked this
TLS Man-in-the-middle on renegotiation vulnerability made public, (Thu, Nov 5th) - http://isc.sans.org/diary...
Peter Dawson liked this
Google Toolbar's Features in Google Chrome? - http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2009...
Kol Tregaskes, Jim Connolly and Peter Dawson liked this
Gothic synagogue.
Kol Tregaskes, Stephen Mack, Uwe and 15 other people liked this
The only surviving neo-Gothic synagogue in North America, they said.
- Laura id stubbed ub.
where is this ?
- Peter Dawson
Temple Mickve Israel, Savannah, GA.
- Laura id stubbed ub.
thanks Laura.. yep google it right away.. !
- Peter Dawson
Gothic & synagogue doesn't seem like a good fit.
- Amit Morson
Courtesy of my friend Ken... apparently, this sticker is on schoolkids' desks in Korea.
Kirill Bolgarov, zizukabi, Simon and 58 other people liked this
Damn. That'd be vandalized to hell in American schools. And protested.
- Maxamad
Sustain of Competition
- Acharad Sami vanJoulee
Wow.
- Todd Hoff
Well M. -- the Anti-Clique it does imply your soul purpose in life is to become a production cog in a great machine. That's worth protesting don't you think?
- Todd Hoff
And what about, 'When you feel drowsy, a competitor may have drugged you.'
- Micah Wittman
That's gotta be a joke, no?
- Joel Webber
Why is it in English though?
- ronin
Or "When you feel drowsy Freddy is waiting in the dark"?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
The best part is that the Korean says "Sleepiness Prohibited".
- Darren
I actually meant that I was picturing American parents protesting that this was pitting students against each other. But yes, in the fight-the-man feeling, it does seem like a noble cause to protest about
- Maxamad
yes , just shows that Teachers don't take crap from kids in Asian Countries !!.. and I might as well add their Governments too !!
- Peter Dawson
WOW, no pressure, right? Sobering message for young minds
- Susan Beebe
Given the national scores and drop out rates, I think American kids could use some pressure, something to remind them that they are in fact, competing in the global market, whether they like it or not.
- Ray Cromwell
I think I also need one of this to put on my desk
- Ozkan Altuner
MS lets their director of business development go, but don't worry, you can reach him at his gmail, facebook or twitter accounts
Peter Dawson liked this
Parents Find Love Notes From 6-Year-Old After Her Death From Cancer - http://community.todaymoms.com/_news...
Peter Dawson, Amy and Amit Morson liked this
Congratulations to @drew for kicking cancer to the curb! See his blog post: "That's not what I ordered..." http://www.drewolanoff.com/post...
Carmen, ffcode, Alfredo and 35 other people liked this
rock on @drew
- Thomas Power
grats, @drew
- brainno722 (Peter)
That's awesome!
- Shevonne
So glad to hear it! I hope the others I know battling cancer right now can get some much needed reinforcement from this news...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Awesome!
- David Cook
Echo the the Mixed Breed | Puppies | Daily Puppy - http://www.dailypuppy.com/puppies...
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Anna Lynn M., Peter Dawson, M F and 14 other people liked this
Cavalier King Charles Spaniel/Jack Russell Terrier mix
- Mol, Time Warping
from Bookmarklet
Cuteeeee ! Carinaaaa !!
- Keiko Yamada
I love the mix of the two breeds. She is such a sweetie. She has the markings of a Cavie and a face of a Jack Russell. :)
- Mol, Time Warping
Lookit those TOES!!! Why are puppy toes (and cat toes, for that matter) so cute?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Cyber Security Awareness Month - Day 31, ident, (Sat, Oct 31st) - http://isc.sans.org/diary...
Peter Dawson liked this
Heading to the hospital soon
Noah Belson, Amir, Faraz Mullick and 72 other people liked this
Send your best wishes, prayers, whatever you have that you're willing to spare. We'll take it all.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Get well soon!
- ronin
LOVE YOU FAMILY MOSKOVITZ. <3
- Derrick
such amazing eyes ....
- johnpiercy
From my sick bed I wish you all, all the best. I will say a little prayer for you and keep you all in my thoughts.
- WorldofHiglet
Good luck!
- Shevonne
What a gorgeous face! Sending my best wishes.
- josh neff, Fun Dip of FF
get well little buddy
- johnpiercy
Do good lil girl.
- Matthew DeVries
Good luck babby! My prayers are with you guys.
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
All my best to your family.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
hey little angel how you doing? may god be with you lovely
- ffcode
Good luck, you guys are in my prayers.
- Michelle Martinez
All digits crossed.
- Spidra Webster
Awwww! Be brave, Audrey.
- Stephen Mack
lots of get well soon wishes to Audrey!
- vicster
All best wishes coming your way! Babby is in my thoughts.
- Ayşe E.
My prayers can be added, too.
- FF's Bubba of Arizona
Godspeed and best wishes to the Moskovitz family.
- Eric Logan
Good luck Akiva!
- Travis Koger
from iPhone
Best wishes and big hugs, little'un xx
- Andrew Terry
Praying for y'all.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Her cheeks look a little fuller. Or is it just me?
- Yolanda
oh good grief. she is just too freaking cute for words. takes your breath away. warn a girl next time, will ya?
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
All the best Akiva! Our prayers are with you.
- Justin Whitaker
love this one and the one in which she surprisingly looks at the camera :)
- ffcode
Hugs + best wishes
- Lo
:)
- Caroline
Blessings on the little one and her family.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
How it goes well.
- Roberto Bonini
Best wishes to all.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
<3
- joey
*hugs* and luck to you, Audrey! Get better soon, Babby! We're all pulling for you.
- Her Lindsay-ness
in my prayers http://www.jewishealing.com/healing...
- chaz2b
Aww, get well soon!
- Tyson Key
She's in my thoughts.
- Katie: Whelmed Overly
All of my strongest, most positive best wishes are with your family!
- Martha
Good luck, Kind.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Praying for sweet little Audrey. *hugs*
- Carmen
Praying for baby Audrey and the rest of the family, stay positive!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
So beautiful. Hope she will recover quickly
- Kamilah Gill
Dearest Audrey, your beautiful little pie face and all that goes along with it are in my thoughts.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Big hugs for the whole family.
- Bonnie Foster
Beautiful eyes :-)
- ★ Soner Gönül
I wish you to go with hope and come back happy. my best wishes and pray.
- Mary
in my prayers
- VAL D.
how lovely she is :)
- ffcode
Mi Sheberakh.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Praying for your family!! :) Beautiful baby..
- John Tastad
John, the latest update is here: http://friendfeed.com/rochell... EDIT: No, wait, here: http://www.roadofmiracles.com/2009...
- Stephen Mack
Prayers and thoughts, my man.
- Bryan R. Adams
hey sweetie how are you? doing good?
- ffcode
DSCF2833-1 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Rick Cogley, RAPatton, Yolanda and 3 other people liked this
Cute!
- Anika
very cute!
- Rick Cogley
By tonight we will be there... - http://www.kauai-rent.com/kalihiw...
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Tyson Key, LogEx, Kol Tregaskes and 8 other people liked this
Wow, looks so awesome! Just a regular vacation, or a second honeymoon? :)
- Cheryl Jones
A friend's wedding...
- Jason Wehmhoener
from iPhone
Wow, gorgeous!
- joey
Oh, look! That are the pics in the TechCrunch! http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Damn, that's awesome.
- Derrick
Jerome, heh, there's an echo in these tubes....
- Jason Wehmhoener
from iPhone
Gizmos to beat the cellphone driving ban - http://www.thestar.com/news...
winckel, Roberto Bonini, Steven Perez and 3 other people liked this
Ontario's prohibition on in-car talking and texting kicks in this month. And that means the tech industry's full-court marketing press is reaching a fevered crescendo.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from Bookmarklet
Time to hit up eBay
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from iPhone
Hwy 60 Alqonquin Park on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Iván Abrego, zephyrlily, ffcode and 14 other people liked this
going through some photos , that I took in Northern Ontario ,, glad to have pictures that make me smile ..
- johnpiercy
from Bookmarklet
Hwy 60 is not Northern Ontario (as somebody born in North Bay which just barely makes it I am offended) ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
sorry Brian ... its North enuff for me ... 3 hour car ride was long enough :)
- johnpiercy
Amazing colours!
- Gordon Herd
thanks this was the first week in October .. about 2hrs North of Toronto .. had a lot of rain , but a few sunny breaks .. love the fall ..
- johnpiercy
yep hwy60 runs right across. from ont inot Que..the view is really kewl !
- Peter Dawson
Who the hell are these people? - http://www.webinknow.com/2009...
Peter Dawson and Bill Rice liked this
Cat head
Alfredo, Alix Whitmire, Eric @ CS Techcast and 14 other people liked this
With bonus Akiva in the background.
- Rochelle
he is so freaking adorable
- Mary Carmen
See also: http://friendfeed.com/rochell...
- Rochelle
Spike is all up in my face.
- Derrick
really, you have the prettiest cat i have ever seen. I dont care if he's a boy, hes pretty
- Marissa
Spike looks like a cartoon kitteh. Adorable!
- Ayşe E.
Look at it upside down and it's a white heart
- MicahBear78
yep looks like a heart .. ..I just feel like tugging em whiskers.. just 4 phun :)_
- Peter Dawson
Audrey has more cute. And Pretty.
- Matthew DeVries
That's the Man Man. The Buddy Man Man.
- Akiva Moskovitz
How do you feel about prime numbers?
Darren Heydon, Iván Abrego, Craig Bailey and 11 other people liked this
They make me feel vaguely more comfortable than non-primes. #nerd
- Internet's Tad
I love prime numbers. Whenever learning a new language my first exercises to learn the syntax are to implement a brute force, Eratosthenes sieve, and Bradly algorithms to find prime numbers.
- Sparky, a big deal
Primes rock.
- LogEx
I feel dirty betting on non-primes in Roulette
- Internet's Tad
Tad, if you were gay, and lived in Seattle, ,and were single, and I were single then I'd totally date you.
- Sparky, a big deal
I love them! Clearly teh gayz and teh nerdz are on to something.
- Derrick
LOL Sparky. :) You'd have to shave the beard though. Oh, and I'd have to be gay.
- Internet's Tad
I started it with "if you were gay". The beard stays though. STAYS.
- Sparky, a big deal
I don't like them. They make me uneasy. They aren't divisible by anything.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
LOL
- Internet's Tad
When confronted by a non-prime, the first thing I do is factor.
- LogEx
They're divisible by 1. Oh and themselves. That's 2 numbers. 2 is prime.
- Internet's Tad
Not as good as I feel about prime rib.
- Spidra Webster
Me too LogEx. It's like they're cheating.
- Internet's Tad
Tad: http://codeforfood.org/code... - does this let me keep the beard?
- Sparky, a big deal
I'm with Spidra. *HIGH FIVE*
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
Since I'm straight Sparky, yeah.
- Internet's Tad
Bah, you people love too many numbers, I love only the unique numbers, which I may occasionally cheat on with the primes, because they're my second favorite as a group.
- Jimminy
Yeah - 1 prime rib is great. But not 4.
- Internet's Tad
Beards and Prime Numbers for everyone!
- Sparky, a big deal
7 and 11 can kiss my ass
- Rodfather
"They're divisible by 1. Oh and themselves. That's 2 numbers. 2 is prime." Oh hell nah. Not only are they selfish, but cliquish as well. none for me, thanks. LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Mike, that's hot.
- Internet's Tad
When I play roulette, I only bet on 2, 3, 5, 17, and 23.
- Internet's Tad
23? As in chromosomes? The only respectable numbers in that list are 2 and 5. The others can #suckit...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Ha3rvey - GOOOOOOO MEAT!
- Spidra Webster
I'm not a fan of 5, but 2,3,7,11, and 17 are all cool.
- LogEx
Um, guys, the irrational numbers are making fun of you.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
And the imaginary numbers laugh at the irrationals.
- LogEx
i approve
- Internet's Tad
41 is my favorite.
- Steven Perez
41 is a woody number.
- LogEx
GO BACK TO YOUR OAR, 41.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Don, but it's not as pretty and perfect in binary(1011). I like 3(11), 7(111), 15(1111), and all of the other numbers of 2^nth -1.
- Jimminy
I like number theory.
- joey
I think they are odd.
- Steve is older than ever
Steve not all of them. I find one to be quite even.
- Jimminy
I'm down with the prime numbers. I do not like repeating decimals.
- laura x
Yeah, but even that is kind of odd, isn't it Jimminy?
- Steve is older than ever
Love their music
- Citronella
I feel like a "transformer" :)-
- Peter Dawson
17 is my fave.
- Joe....
7 is my favorite.
- Laura id stubbed ub.
I only like numbers divisible by 2.
- Alex Scoble
I generally agree with this subject, but disagree with its motives.
- CW™
I like the idea of lone wolf numbers. :)
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
I actually prefer non-primes for their composite nature. (I would attribute it to how I am from/between two cultures, but I don't think I could BS at length that way.)
- Andrew C
Top 10 Creepy Halloween Recipes | Endless Simmer - A Food Blog - http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2009...
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Steven Perez, Peter Dawson, Jessie and 4 other people liked this
"Is it just us, or do Halloween recipes get creepier and simultaneously more delicious every year? Here are our top 10 favorite finds from around the web:"
- Michelle Martinez
from Bookmarklet
I wonder if I still have my brain mold. I think the kids are old enough to get a kick out of that now.
- Anika
ewww on the fingers!!!
- Her Lindsay-ness
Waveboard: Google Wave Client for Mac and iPhone is Coming - http://mashable.com/2009...
Peter Dawson and RAPatton liked this
downloading now!
- Jennifer Van Grove
So it's basically a more integrated fluid app?
- James Williams
Fwd: An Open Letter to Elisa Steele EVP & Chief Marketing Officer, Yahoo Inc. on the New “The Internet is You,” Yahoo Marketing Campaign - http://thomashawk.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/thomash...)
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Alex Kapranoff, Greg, rogneda and 24 other people liked this
Ok, I wrote up a blog post linked above summarizing my feelings about yesterday's destruction of DMU.
- Thomas Hawk
Good blog post.
- Rene Wirtz
thanks Rene. I really hope Yahoo does address this.
- Thomas Hawk
I hope Yahoo does too, because you clearly pointed out the "do as I say, not as I do" hypocricy between what they advertize and do. And you've shown them a potential threat with the FriendFeed DMU group.
- Rene Wirtz
Thank you Thomas!!!!!
- Lars Clausen
Very well written TH. One of your best pieces ever.
- Ivan Makarov
I agree with Ivan. I can't believe her actions are left unchecked. I hate "Her" freedom.
- Manny Flores
Very well written. But don't hold your breath on Yahoo addressing any of this. What I learned when this happened to me on another site is that they just wait for it to blow over and go away. They don't care if they lose a few avid users because they're adding thousands of new ones every day. You're fighting the good fight, though.
- alibubba
TH ... just to be clear I'm not claiming a DMU other than what you founded. They promoted me to admin last night after you stepped down. Hope you are OK if we continue to use The Lightbox, but we can start over if you prefer.
- Shims
Shims I think it's fine to use the lightbox. I'm just personally not going to invest any time in a forum on Flickr going forward when Yahoo policy is that they can nuke it without warning at any time. I put too much emotional energy into that community to see it destroyed again like that in the future. The community here at FriendFeed is far better suited. Its management are largely respected by it's users because its management largely respects its users.
- Thomas Hawk
so now there are two voting pools and one lightbox. Why the second dmu will the new dmu be opened for conversation?
- Wendy Martyn
wendy, i personally won't participate in a group with the admins/mods you have right now. you had 4 admins for a 3000+ members, why did you need 6-7 admins/mods for a 200+ group?
- Mo Tabesh
Wendy I don't want to be associated with a group that hosts a forum on Flickr anymore. The second DMU will not be open for conversation. That will happen here (at least for now).
- Thomas Hawk
ok
- Wendy Martyn
i am admin for the other group for now because TH asked me to, and if that's too much for some i won't hesitate to step down as i did in your new group. i have nothing but interest of the DMU community and it is unfortunate that Therrr, the least active member and the most ignorant one is an admin. sorry, just doesn't work.
- Mo Tabesh
I find it amazing that people would consider hosting a forum on Flickr at all anymore after the way flickr abused the trust of it's members by nuking DMU. If I wouldn't participate in a forum by our former admins who nuked it, why participate in a forum with a group that Flickr will only likely end up nuking again?
- Thomas Hawk
I'm done with Flickr forums as well. No need to waste my time there when it can all just dissappear quietly while I'm at work as it did yesterday.
- Ivan Makarov
Friendfeed works fine for now for conversation. It's even got some nice features like blocking that Flickr does not. Flickr's forums are no longer needed as far as I am concerned. They abused the trust of their users and I will not give them a second chance to do it again unless there are serious commitments made by Yahoo to prevent it from happening again.
- Thomas Hawk
I did submit a photo to silent pool, so go ahead and go save it now.
- Ivan Makarov
TH - how did you forward a link like that?
- Ivan Makarov
actually Ivan I have my blog linked up to my friendfeed account. You should do this too. It automatically then gets imported on FriendFeed in the main feed, from there you can pick share and repost to DMU. You can also post anything on find on any page on the internet to DMU only by use the FF share bookmarklet here: http://friendfeed.com/about...
- Thomas Hawk
I see. I do have my blog link, so it shows up in my feed. I need to find a way to share it with DMU, and learn how to use a bookmarklet. I'm really starting to like FF. Maybe we'll just find our new home here.
- Ivan Makarov
The blog post clearly summarizes your understandable frustration about DMU being nuked and the less than needless tweet from Heather. However, it is IMO also written in an aggressive style and I therefore wonder whether it will create the reaction you're hoping for - if any. Just my 2c.
- Stefan Baeurle
I don't know Stefan, I hope it is read and taken to heart.
- Thomas Hawk
I hope so too, Thomas. It's important to raise an issue - even if no consequences will follow. I would have chosen a somewhat softer style. My experience has taught me that I usually do better with it. But then that's me. I also cannot neglect the fact that you have a much longer history with DMU and put orders of magnitude more work and time into to. Only time will tell what the outcome will be.
- Stefan Baeurle
Thomas, I really really really don't think this tweet ever had anything to do with DMU. And I thought that before I talked to Heather.
- Pierre Honeyman
what does it have to do with then Pierre? And why was it timestamped within minutes of the destruction of the group? Even had it not, it's terribly poor judgment to choose to post that sort of a cryptic message at almost the very moment she nukes a very popular group publicly associated with freedom of speech.
- Thomas Hawk
FWIW I already said I don't really see the connection.. not really.
- Jakey
Thomas, you'd have to ask her. But the timestamp connection is almost certainly a coincidence. I think I can confidently guarantee that that tweet has zero connection with DMU
- Pierre Honeyman
what makes you think it's a coincidence Pierre?
- Thomas Hawk
Having worked fora nother photo sharing site, and being very aware of Yahoo-Flickr's policies, the idea that they are open has been a joke for a while. I'm not saying you should have known better, I'm just kind of ... glad that Thomas is showing the contrast between the marketing message and actual policies.
- anna sauce
Heather is free to drop by the thread and clarify though if the post was not meant to be about DMU. The thread is open to all. She has a friendfeed account. I wouldn't be able to see her post as she's blocking me here, but other people could.
- Thomas Hawk
Yeah, Heather is relly Free to add to the thread. This is a powerfull post, well written. right up the ClueTrain Manifesto paradigm. Thomas, if Heather is blocking you then thats so silly of her. After all she has much to learn about conversations and communtity. Participation is the key, blocking a person whose views differ from ones own, just makes one an idiot. No Seriously.. !!
- Peter Dawson
I agree Peter. She's blocked me on and off on Flickr itself for much of the last few years. It doesn't really change anything because I can see any of her posts if I want by simply logging out of my account. To me it simply feels more personal. But blocking your most active users and advocates for your service is not something that a Community Manager ought to do I do agree on that....
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- Thomas Hawk
When I love a service I am it's biggest advocate. I've been a big advocate for Flickr over the years. When I love the management of a service (like Friendfeed) I'm also a huge advocate for it's management. Say what you will about friendfeed but they have always been open to critical content, even when it's about their management. That's something that I have a tremendous amount of respect for. Flickr by contrast tries to bury critical content. That's something that I cannot respect.
- Thomas Hawk
I think in part FriendFeed's openness as it relates to critical content comes from their background at Google, a company that I've always found far more open than Yahoo. At least in my own personal experience. I think part of it is also just character and a maturity to realize that if you make a great product it doesn't matter if people criticize it. This is something that Flickr and Yahoo have yet to learn.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, you and me need to talk. Phone would be good.
- Pierre Honeyman
Pierre -whats this about phone ?? if there is anything to be said wrt to to this thread, then it would be good to share it here !
- Peter Dawson
The idea of hosted free discussion- which is largely a utopian dream, not a reality- is so alive in silicon valley. Yahoo pays for hosting the discussion thread, so in a way they're within rights to kill it- but as you point out it's a disservice to the membership and sends completely the wrong message. FF on the other hand, lives for the discussion so censorship is the last thing it...
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- anna sauce
Thomas, FF openness is in the controls of the users and not some bot or admin. That user controls what they get rid off and from whom. Liekwise every other member has the same obligation of cleaning and control they own blocks etc. I think that YHOO problem is too centeralized and 'fearmonger' attitude is always there. Big players face big risks, (E,g China issue!). But in the end, its...
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- Peter Dawson
well said, Peter, well said. Friendfeed's approach is far superior and far less expensive than flickr maintaining a staff of censors. I suppose that's why the group's hosted here now instead of their. At least their censors can't get their hands on it here.
- Thomas Hawk
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