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Chris White posted a message
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Mine are: Vertigo, GoodFellas, Pulp Fiction, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Bladerunner - Chris White
Wall Street, Fletch, Caddyshack, Back to School, WarGames - peter
Real Genius, Princess Bride, Star Wars, and I have no idea for the last two. - Kevin Fox
Tootsie, Forrest Gump, La Vie En Rose, As Good As It Gets, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Weird Science, Tarnation, Out of Africa, Rainman, Cinema Paradiso, - Pokai
Shawshank Redemption, Tombstone, Forrest Gump, The Book of Love, A League of Their Own - Erica Baker
Raging bull, Cinema Paradiso, Bullit, Empire of the sun, The Wall - George The Writer
North by Northwest, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Husbands and Wives, The Unbearable Lightness, Raiders. I was surprised that I chose these. Only 2 of my 7 favorite directors make an appearance, and only 2 actors that I would count among my real favorites. But, you know, if you can only pick 5, you really start cutting muscle. - j1m
Casablanca,Lovestory,Ratattouile,Fight Club, Breakfast At Tiffany's - Giancarlo Angulo
Until the End of the World, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Days of Heaven. - DeWitt Clinton
Harold and Maude, Raising Arizona, The Blues Brothers, Empire Strikes Back, and Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. [The next five would be The Breakfast Club, Clerks, Swingers, Pulp Fiction, and Ghostbusters. Princess Bride, Office Space and Shaun of the Dead were under consideration as well.] - Keith Pelczarski
It's a Wonderful Life, Blazing Saddles, The Blues Brothers, Singin' in the Rain, Stage Door - Spidra Webster
Lawrence of Arabia, Heat, Empire Strikes Back, The Last Emperor, Crouching Tiger - Christian
real genius, star wars, hardboiled, serenity and dogma? Maybe? that list'll probably change tomorrow. :) - felix
Manhattan, The Incredibles, Time Bandits, Fargo, Anne of Green Gables - Ginger Makela
Casablanca, The Incredibles, The Empire Strikes, Army of Darkness and High Noon.Runner ups: Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, Raiders of the Lost Ark, To Catch A Thief, The Naked Gun, Airplane!. I am sure my list would be different tomorrow or even in 5 minutes. - RAPatton
Is this list different than your favorite 5 films of all time? - Nathan Chase
Raiders, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, The Magnificent Seven, The Empire Strikes Back, Pulp Fiction (runners up: Princess Bride, The Matrix, Breakfast Club, High Plains Drifter, Remember the Titans) - Harvey Simmons
Snake eyes, mission impossible I, the rock, antitrust, traffic - Anthony Farrior
Cassablanca, A Fish Called Wanda, Gross Pointe Blank, The Princess Bride, The Fifth Element. - Joel Gray via twhirl
None i've tried before, but it just feels weird knowing what will happen, but maybe just maybe Beowulf - Gordon Swaby
Blade Runner, The Big Lebowski, Airplane!, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Rubin Sfadj
Short Cuts, Die Zweite Heimat, Deer Hunter, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain. Can I add Fellini's Roma as well? Thanks. - Thomas Brox Røst
if anyone would like a http://www.flickchart.com invite, send your email address to nathan at flickchart.com and you can see how close your lists above match your true Top 5 Movies Of All Time.... - Nathan Chase
Citizen Kane, A Fish Called Wanda, Goodfellas, Girl in the Gold Boots (MST3K version), and 2010. (C'mon... Helen Mirren, Roy Scheider, *and* John Lythgoe?) - Roger Benningfield
Snatch, Garden State, The Empire Strikes Back, Pulp Fiction, The Big Lebowski - James Ferguson
Casablanca and The Thomas Crown Affair (remake w/Brosnan and Russo) are always on my top 5 rewatch list, the other 3 would be some combo of: Shawshank Redemption, Cinema Paradiso, Star Wars, Princess Bride, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Roman Holiday, and To Have and Have Not). Oh, and I can't explain it but The Life Aquatic as bad as it is still draws me in and cracks me up... I probably should see someone about that. - Casey
Five movies I haven't seen before - Bjorn Tipling
I thought I was a film snob, but the first things I thought of were Princess Bride, Dr. Strangelove, Tommy Boy, Fifth Element and Raising Arizona. I guess Strangelove counts. - Jack Baty
Star Wars, Army of Darkness, Princess Bride, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Raiders of the Lost Ark. (Clerks and Office Space just narrowly miss the cut off). - Eric
awwwwww.. star wars still rocks.. may the force be with da fans !! LOL - Peter Dawson
Loving all the Princess Bride nods :) That, To Have and Have Not, The Lion in Winter, Léon (The Professional), and Roman Holiday. And there are about 30 others I could exchange those with depending on current mood. - Michael W. May
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Bret Taylor posted a message
Monday at 1:54 pm - Link
We have fun lunchtime conversations here at the FriendFeed headquarters :) (for those of you who haven't heard the term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T...) - Bret Taylor
Haha nice. It seems pretty inevitable, which is both exciting and scary :/ - Dion Almaer
There's a lot of misinformation about what "singulatarians" actually believe. Not everyone agrees with Ray Kurzweil's notions that he'll live long enough to upload his consciousness. The best resource I've found is Michael Annissmov's Accelerating Future blog: http://www.acceleratingfuture.... - Dan Kaplan
I'm all for it, only I say let Kurzweil go first when comes to the first downloading of brain contents. That way if something is missing, we'll know pretty quick ;-) - Dean Terry
Interesting, we were just talking about this last night: http://friendfeed.com/e/b3ce29... Doing a quick search, looks like singularity is on the brain of Friendfeed lately. Ooooooeeeeeoooo. - Mark Trapp
As long as more and more people spend all their time on FriendFeed, there won't be too much AI technology being developed. :) - Chris White
i think its at least a few years off, so you can relax, plenty of time for you to get used to it before it happens :P - bob
It's just amazing that I haven't seen any of the movies where this happens (Terminator, iRobot, etc.). What else are people working on from within the FriendFeed headquarters that can kill me? :) - Ana
I'm not convinced. still disconcerting as hell though. - Marco
ana, i think someone is working on doomsday devices over in the furniture graveyard :P - bob
Here's the essay that introduced the singularity concept - http://mindstalk.net/vinge/vin.... Fantastic read. - Michael Nielsen
I took Computer Ethics at SDSU (where Vinge taught) and one of our assignments was to compare Vinge's singularity essay to Ted Kaczynski's "Unabomber Manifesto." The similarities are rather striking. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but it is extremely fascinating the differing approach people take to similar topics. - Brooks Bishop
to counterbalance computers that are super smart, we need humans who are freakishly strong. - eviltom
I always thought the first sign of the singularity was twitter. sigh - Elad
@Brooks Bishop see also Bill Joy's wired essay: http://www.wired.com/wired/arc... - Nick Lothian
Thanks for posting that link to Vinge's essay, Michael. You're right - a mind-boggling read on a fascinating subject that hadn't really crossed my radar until reading this terrific thread. Makes me appreciate FF all the more for putting it in front of me. Could its increasing popularity be another of the early signs indicating the onset of the Singularity? I think we should be told. - Bob Kingsley
movies are pretty bad at showing the future; they tend to show things that *look* cool - Amit Patel
@nick: Thanks for that wired link. Thanks to all for discussing this topic - very interesting. - nadim
Since there seems to be interest, most of the best reading on this is SciFi. Vinge's "Rainbow End" and Stross's "Accelerando" are probably the best "What happens when (if) the Singularity happens" books. (Interesting to note that Vinge is an ex CompSci professor and Stross is an ex-perl hacker). If you want to get scared by the singularity read "A Fire Upon the Deep", though. - Nick Lothian
@Nick: thanks for the link to the Bill Joy essay. Another fascinating, absorbing read. - Bob Kingsley
Ana, you should keep your eyes out for human sized bugs, among other things. - Clare Dibble
I'm a singularity skeptic - increasing compute power doesn't solve basic problems like global warming. - Piaw Na
Will the Singularity happen. Never say never, although I am a skeptic. I do think must Singularitarians completely underestimate the complexity of human biology and by orders of magnitude - Deepak
That's actually a pretty common response. Interesting side: I knew my wife was a keeper when she instantly took to the idea, not frightened or put off at all. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Deepak agreed, and there's also the matter of assuming that they've figured out and are right about basic metaphysical issues argued for centuries. As we've learned in recent years, certainty can be dangerous. Like I said above: Kurzweil goes first! - Dean Terry
I've said this before, I really like and agree with Kurzwiel but I have issues with the diet of 100s of pills a day (to make it to the singularity) and the very odd alter ego his future self becomes. I'm also troubled by the poor graphics on his site :) They really need some of that exponential love. - Doug Brooks
Kurtzweils accelerated returns theory is probably true and implies an upcoming singularity event. But the singularity is crucially dependent on the computing-biology interface and I agree with @Deepak and @Dean terry that biology is the limiting factor and that biomedicine is not in the steep part of the S-curve, - yet.......The singularity must come at some point however, and unlike @Amit Patel, I believe it will look extremely cool.... - SciPhu
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Sarah Perez posted an entry on sarahintampa
Monday at 5:12 pm - Link
Ironically, Sarah, I have almost stopped using Facebook completely. Twitter and FriendFeed have really taken over for me. What is sad though is that most of my friends don't understand why I like these services. Quite odd. - James Mowery
facebook is good for those who are not as social media obsessed as us, though. :) - Sarah Perez
That is a great point. :D - James Mowery via twhirl
BTW, I found you through David Peralty I believe. I really enjoy your blog. Keep up the great work. - James Mowery via twhirl
thanks James! - Sarah Perez
Like James, I don't really use Facebook anymore...mostly just the messaging feature. - Mack D. Male
You sounded great! :) - Spencer Scott
thanks, spencer & david! :) - Sarah Perez
Well done Sarah! - David Ambrose
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10 Spectacular Cockpit Photos - Canadian Bootstrapper
10 Spectacular Cockpit Photos - Canadian Bootstrapper
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Monday at 5:37 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Loved these -- especially the P-51D photo. - Chris Baskind
awesome - Shey
LOL, look what the pilot on the left has around his neck on the picture of the Airbus A320-211! - Adam Turetzky
Does that say Bacardi???? - Mona N
It sure does! :D - Adam Turetzky
There also appears to be a beverage with a lemon wedge in a glass next to his left hand. I'm hoping that's some type of iced tea, otherwise I'm guessing those light streams out the window might be what he's actually seeing! :) - Adam Turetzky
There IS a lime in the drink next to him... hmmmmmmmm LOl - Mona N
JINX haha! - Mona N
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edythe posted a link
Apartment Therapy Unplugged | Optoma Pico Handheld DLP Projector
Sunday at 4:02 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"No pricing or availability yet from our contact at Optoma. We're really hoping to get our hands on a unit for testing, as this would make for some good times paired with the upcoming iPhone (we'll be in line) or for impromptu slide shows at family gatherings." - edythe via Bookmarklet
whoa. Want! - Robert Seidman
Looks shiny - Mark Forman
This is neato, I need to get one for my UMPC and other deices. It will be kewl gadget to carry along as part of arsenal. I will pay about $150-200 for this type of gadget..what would you pay ? - Peter Dawson
Are there blinky lights? - Jack Carlson
what is this resolution? - RAPatton
it will be priced somwehre around $400/- It serves up a 20-inch display, but can go as high as 90 inches in a super-dark environmenthttp://blog.laptopmag.com/tag/... - Peter Dawson
that is so necessary. i don't think i'd shell out more than $300 though - Cee Bee
CeeBee-Early adopters pay more so late adopters don't have to - Mark Forman
i think that's the mantra over at apple. at least that's how they make me feel most of the time - Cee Bee
So true Mark. Wait a few years and it will probably do 1080p and cost $150. - Robert Seidman
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An Interview with Photographer Thomas Hawk | Photograview
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Photograview did an interview with me about my photography. - Thomas Hawk via Bookmarklet
A good "Who is Thomas Hawk" primer - Brian Sullivan
"At this point in my life I don’t need to make money with my photography" , I wish I was loaded with $$$ so I can pursue my hobby fulltime :)- - Peter Dawson
Haha, Peter, I'm far from "loaded," but photography certainly couldn't pay for the mortgage and four kids that I'm supporting right now. If I could quit my day job and focus on photography full time I'd do it in a heartbeat. It's going to be many years before that happens though. - Thomas Hawk
that self portrait pic is one of my favorites - every time I see it I am impressed by the depth and complexity represented by such a simple picture - been meaning to tell you that for a while. - Marco
Bill Wadman is an amazing portrait photographer. One of the best. That photo he took of me is my favorite of all of the photos I've ever seen of myself. I love how he juxtaposed my camera and the security camera. His 365 project is definitely worth checking out. http://www.365portraits.com/in... - Thomas Hawk
good gosh he is talented - those pics are amazing - Marco
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Jeremiah Owyang posted a message
Sunday at 7:59 am - Link
awesome idea Jeremiah! Ooooh I WANT this feature bad!! - Susan Beebe
firstly , time stamps are needed, secondly 'likes on multiple same URI could be difficult. I may Like an entry from a friend's del.ious entry or maybe from another person who actually posts the URI on FF. How can this mapped out ? A visual map normally has one start point/seed and then spawns outwards to various nodes and then branches even more. - Peter Dawson
heres a classic e.g of a like in multiple places from the same user but different URI http://friendfeed.com/e/3359b0... and the other URI http://friendfeed.com/e/1f03e8... - Peter Dawson
Exactly how do you determine who or what an influencer is? This is less obvious than it appears. I've seen "big names" retweet ideas of someone with a lower social profile. The original idea came from person A but person B has a larger social network. So, who is the influencer here, the person who came up with the idea or the person who told all of their friends? If it is person B, doesn't that discount the substantial influence person A had on them? You're privileging social capital over creative capital. - Liz
+1 for Liz's comment - Corvida via twhirl
+2 for Liz - Hutch Carpenter
This would be another tool for creating elites. Is that really what we want? - Chris Baskind
A brand manager's wet dream. - Sprague D
Chris: good point. But my curious side really want to know how all this stuff is really happening! - Susan Beebe
I like the idea of charting how information moves virally to see who the influencers are. Hopefully, this would let you see who infuences the so called "elite", "a-lister", "agent-of-change". - Mathew A. Koeneker via fftogo
Ohhh, that would be awesome. I'd love to sit back and watch an idea spread. - Summer
Mathew, all these ""elite", "a-lister", "agent-of-change" are actually pretty mch just with large Social capital. not the creative capital ( +3 goes to Liz !!). This AM, I saw a lot of chatter on Lumosity, to me this was wickedly old in terms of tech tech. http://friendfeed.com/e/8f63f3... however, when looking back onto FF you will find Leo Laporte posting it and many peeps then repurposing that twit/post via many methods, digg, rooms etc. - Peter Dawson
@spragued please no more brands and managers for them - silpol
To respond to those: The influencer could start at the source node (creative capital) as well as those who are sneezers (spread to many others) it can serve the purpose of both. - Jeremiah Owyang
It could look like Digg's swarm ... that would be pretty cool - David Weiner
"Sneezers?" You mean ideas are like boogers? - Steven Buehler via twhirl
Steven...Read Seth Godin's work, yeah it's like boogers ;) - Jeremiah Owyang
Hey Jeremiah, I just posted about a new Google patent to do exactly this http://www.socialtimes.com/200... - Nick O'Neill
love the idea. - Michael J Cohen
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Steve Rubel posted a message
Sunday at 5:49 am - Link
I use it to indicate "hey world, this is worth reading!" and for bookmarking, too! - Susan Beebe
Yes, it's a Gesture model. - Jeremiah Owyang
I use it as both as "hey read this!" and as a bookmarking type feature. - Aaron Myers via Alert Thingy
Me too. I am using this feature to save interesting link with mobile phone for future browsing with a computer - Marco Castellani via fftogo
i use it to say that I liked it. - Rob Williams
It's a vague bookmark/like type action for me as well. BTW, I misuse "Hide" and it's become my "mark as read" button. I try to follow a "FriendFeed Zero" philosophy. :-) I wish that "Like" flagged items would pop back up for me whenever anyone commented on them, even after I've read/hidden them. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, I don't think you're misuing "hide". I often use it as a pseudo-"mark as read" too. - Harvey Simmons
Ken & Harvey: there's a greasemonkey script for hiding items upon read automatically: http://userscripts.org/scripts... - Susan Beebe
steve did you see my post yesterday regarding ff and delicious? http://www.centernetworks.com/... - Allen Stern
@Allen I did. Stats back you up http://trends.google.com/websi... - Steve Rubel
@ Steve Rubel - bookmarking on the web means tagging... that cannot be done with "like" - what am i missing ? - Kishore Balakrishnan
@kishore your right there are no tags here. I do use likes to find stuff I want to go back and review later. - Steve Rubel
I echo the sentiments of the mobile user. - Mathew A. Koeneker via fftogo
Steve , if FF has a feature that permits users to define tags and use them. IT will be very powerful. I am think along the lines of Labels /Tags similar to Gmail .. - Peter Dawson
I use it to say I like it, but sometimes I use it to bookmark something I want to have easy access to later on. - David Cook
Is there a way to see things you've liked as a list? - Bjorn Tipling
Bjorn, you can click on "likes" on the right side of your FF home page and see the list. - Trish Robinson
Trish- aha! Thank you. :) - Bjorn Tipling
actually for some reason i never noticed the hide or more buttons. I also use like as an indication that I liked something, or sometimes as a bookmark. Ken when others comment on things I have commented on they do pop back up on my list. or else I am dreaming... - Ruth Ferguson
yup - Marco
There's also a greasemonkey script that allows you to mark something as "later". It's really useful, if you don't have time to read something now. You get a later tab to go back and check it out. Plus it adds a "like" to the post as well. - Jason Toney
I use Twitter to show what I think is interesting and it shows up here. yes FF has the following activities: creator, critic, collector, joiner, spectator. - Jeremiah Owyang
I'd just like to point out that you can't see past your last 300 likes. Make sure that that bug doesn't bite you :) - Yuvi
in persian FF we are using the like as a form of "link recommandation". - mhmazidi
I use "FriendFeed Read Later" (greasemonkey script) for that - Sarah Perez
@Sarah I haven't seen that one, linkage? - Aaron Myers
@ Steve Rubel: I did this too and later found another way: First I opened a private room. Now if I want to "save" something, I click on "More" (on the same line with "Like" and "Hide") and "Reshare this entry" to put the content into my private room. I write a small comment with tags. - Yves Oesch
I created my own private room to which I save links, either from inside FriendFeed or from the web at large. Generally links that I want to return to for blogging purposes. - Hutch Carpenter
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“Sarah At the 4th of July BBQ”
“Sarah At the 4th of July BBQ”
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Of note, the picture on the right is Sarah in a stroller intended for a doll. Still too big. - Louis Gray
awwwwwwwwww.. shes such a doll, sooooooooo petite !! - Peter Dawson
So tiny and so beautiful! - Abby
How can you not like this - Welcome home Sarah! - Charlie Anzman
Adorable pictures... You must be over the moon. Hows the sleep? - Shafqat
Shafqat, sleep has been fine. I'm trying to get the same number of hours. It just takes more time to get them. :-) - Louis Gray
Great pictures! look at those little tiny toes! - Susan Beebe
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Bindu Reddy posted a link
July 2 at 11:44 am - Link
If everyone from MS liked working at Google, I think that would be a worse sign for Google :). A good company should repel the wrong people as much as it attracts the right people (not that I know anything about this one guy in particular). - Paul Buchheit
Everyone has different values and, as Paul says, no place can be right for everyone. As I mentioned last week, this guy's values are pretty different from my own, judging from this excerpt: "I need to know that the code is useful for others, and the only way to measure the usefulness is by the amount of money that the people are willing to part with to have access to my work." - Kevin Fox
Ah, it seems like this topic was already discussed here. Should have figured :) - Bindu Reddy
Another possible way to read that statement is "MS offered a boatload more money than GOOG" :). Which isn't a bad thing. I think that good engineers are underpaid in general. - Sanjeev Singh
He has a good point: when all of your products are "free", the users aren't the customers. - Gabe Schaffer
I disagree with his his code being useful only when people pay for it comment... However, I do think he has some some interesting but exaggerated points about the role of middle management/managers being very ill-defined at Google. The question is should we have any middle-mgmt in corporations and if so, how best to structure it? I am not sure I have a good answer to that question. - Bindu Reddy
Bindu: he's not saying that his code is only useful when paid for, merely that he judges its usefulness by how much people are willing to pay. That makes some sense; as a photographer I consider my best photos to be the ones people order rather than those that just get the most views on my web site. - Gabe Schaffer
He didn't say code was only useful when people paid for it. Rather, he said that the only way he knew how to *measure* the usefulness of his code was by the amount of money people were willing to pay for it. It is kind of an interesting economic question. - Karim
When I first read this post, I thought he was simply saying that Microsoft was paying him more than Google. :) - Chris White
His arguments are kind of "light". Look pretty much an afterthought. - Martin Añazco
I wonder how he came up with this observation? - "Google as an organization is not geared - culturally - to delivering enterprise class reliability to its user applications." - Edward Ho
Those types of statements seem like a classic case of denial by an established player being disrupted by a new competitor. They'll keep telling themselves that Google can't "deliver enterprise class reliability", and meanwhile their business will be eaten from below. (not that MS reliability is all that anyway, but obviously they think it is, and need some way to rationalize a lot of heavyweight process) - Paul Buchheit
One year seems a short time to fully understand the culture, particularly since it seems he was moved around (different projects, managers). I'm no Google fan-boy, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of there there. Seems more like he didn't like customer facing 'cool' product development. - AJ Kohn
Google is just like any other company in that it's made up of employees, many of whom have different opinions. This guy decided it wasn't the place for him. The media picks it up because they are bored with the "Google is great" stories, and are looking for some "Google sucks" stories. It's all kind of boring really. - Chris White
Not sure how much I'd pay for Gmail but I would pay heck of a lot more than for Hotmail. - Philipp Lenssen
AJ: a "customer" is somebody who buys something. I've never bought anything from Google, and neither have most of its users. Presumably this guy prefers to work on products where the customer is the user. It's like working for a cable station like Showtime instead of a commercial network like Fox. - Gabe Schaffer
That's a pretty limited view Gabe. If anything, Google cares about their users more than MS, because enterprise purchasing decisions are made by IT managers and not end users. MS is failing at search because the end users don't like their product and are continuing to abandon it. - Paul Buchheit
Paul, nobody ever said that Google cares less about customers, just that there is a fundamental difference in writing software where the user pays for it and software where the user does not pay for it. Of course a lot of MS software isn't paid for by the user because it came preloaded or was purchased by their employer, but somebody is still paying for it. In this guy's mind, that means it's good. I certainly care more about which of my photos get the most orders versus which get the most views. - Gabe Schaffer
@Gabe: I don't agree with your definition of a customer being someone who buys something. Blog readers are customers. You are a customer of FriendFeed. If you get utility out of a product, you are a customer. The strength of that relationship could be marked by how much you pay, but you are a customer nonetheless IMO. - AJ Kohn
Gabe, you personally may feel differently based on who pays, but what matters the most in product terms is who chooses, not who pays, because that is the person who has to be satisfied. For Google and Apple, the end user chooses the product, and for MS it's typically someone in IT, and that reality is reflected in their product decisions. - Paul Buchheit
Ideas are like good people. The Right People have good ideas , that needs to fit into the ideology of a corporation. Just like right people need to fit into the right culture. There is the fine difference between good and right.. watch the words and the way that we think about such things.. its important :)- - Peter Dawson
Paul, I think you are right when you say it sounds like "Innovator's Dilemma" denial, but I'm not sure the reliability observation should be dismissed on those grounds. I still think ISPs that have an older telco background (e.g. Verizon) have much better reliability cultures than those that don't (e.g. Comcast). While Google services have always been very reliable for me, I've also seen more than one FF thread in the last few days from people having problems with them... That *can* matter. - Karim
That *can* matter. - @Karim - it will matter when yo pay for it .. till then it really does not pinch its just an inconvenience only - Peter Dawson
I don't know about yours, AJ, but my dictionary defines customer as "One that buys goods or services." I consider myself to be a FriendFeed user, or possibly consumer or patron -- but definitely not a customer. This guy's problem with Google is that while their products (a few of them) are highly popular, they are not highly valuable. He wants to work on a product that has measurable value, so he has to work for some place that charges for their products. Maybe one day micropayments will become easy and I can pay Google per search, but in the mean time Google isn't that valuable to me. - Gabe Schaffer
@Gabe: Dictionary version of customer is too narrow. Splitting hairs on user, consumer, patron IMO. Should I assume that you'll no longer use Google search or Gmail or anything else that is free? I view value as the utility you derive from that product, not strictly purchases of goods and services. Clean air is valuable, any of the free search engines are valuable. Wouldn't the logical extension of your argument be to equate value of a profession to salary. I find teachers valuable, but not based on salary. - AJ Kohn
The definition may be splitting hairs, but to this guy it's an important distinction. He didn't want to work at Google anymore in part because he wanted to work for a company that sells a product to its users (which by definition makes them customers). It doesn't mean that he didn't want to work on user-facing products; it means that he wanted to work on paying-user-facing products. And I use Google's products particularly because they have no value (i.e. they're free). - Gabe Schaffer
Okay, I totally grok that Google may be a good job fit for some, not for others (and so, too, Microsoft). But this value/no-value thing has me totally confuzzled. Dude, Gabe... if products have "no value" then why on earth would you use them? Clearly they have value to YOU, and clearly they have value to Google, or Google wouldn't offer them. This isn't radical new think, it's just different types of value! :-) - Adam Lasnik
He says Google produces products that wastes people's time and he then goes on to use it to explain the rationale behind one of the important decisions of his life. Yeah, right!! Also, with his philosophy, he can only work at Microsoft and nowhere else. - Krish
Sorry, Adam, I tend to think like an engineer. A value is some quantity; in this case it's something's price -- not to be confused with worth, which is how much you're willing to pay for something. For example, an old silver dollar might be worth $50, but its value is only $1. - Gabe Schaffer
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree re: the definition(s) of value, but now I can better see where you're coming from. - Adam Lasnik
His is one way to measure the value of software. This week I was thinking about a different, larger cost that the user is willing to pay to use software: the amount of time she spends using it, multiplied by the value of time (e.g. her salary). That number is usually a lot more than what the user would have paid for the software in $, and I try to minimize it, because really my job is to get users what they want, not to use up their time getting it. Probably the most valuable thing, though, is to maximize the value you provide, and to try to measure that directly. - j1m
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kenyan ipod (360 x 480) [Bombayite, Flickr - 11/11/05]
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Bombayite probably received the same chain e-mail I did a few years ago. Unknown photographer. http://flickr.com/photos/bomba... (4 favorites, 1,177 views) - Mitchell Tsai via Bookmarklet
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Comet Between Fireworks and Lightning
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This will be a photograph in the top 10 of many future lists. - Andrew Baron
Explanation: "In January 2007, people from Perth, Australia gathered on a local beach to watch a sky light up with delights near and far. Nearby, fireworks exploded as part of Australia Day celebrations. On the far right, lightning from a thunderstorm flashed in the distance. Near the image center, though, seen through clouds, was the most unusual sight of all: Comet McNaught. The photogenic comet was so bright that it even remained visible though the din of Earthly flashes. Comet McNaught has now returned to the outer Solar System and is now only visible with a large telescope. The above image is actually a three photograph panorama digitally processed to reduce red reflections from the exploding firework." - Andrew Baron
wow! - امین
wow indeed - Michael W. May via twhirl
مثل ساحل لاست میمونه :دی - milad
wow, Greattttttt - Zahra HB
That is an amazing image - Kreg Steppe
It's worth being subscribed to friendfeed for that photo alone. I wouldn't have found it if you hadn't been a friend of Scobleizer. - James Robertson
Dude. - l0ckergn0me
So becoming my wallpaper. - Ben Parr
Very nice wallpaper for dual monitors setups! - Éric Senterre
What a spectacular photo !!!!! - Nellie Root
echoing what james robertson said......worth being here for that photo alone. amazing. - carlotta fancypants
I am setting this up as a dual monitor type display between my two work systems! - Joe Dawson
that is unbelievable. astoundingly awesome - Paul Rj Muller
Wow! That's amazing! - Marcus Beagley
That is gorgeous! Check this out: http://www.jeffmccord.org/when... - Jeff McCord via twhirl
thanks for sharing, great photo - sean percival
Amazing! - Jiri Fencl via Alert Thingy
Incredible! Thanks Andrew for finding such a beautiful shot. Lovely to wake to up to such beauty on FriendFeed... - Mitchell Tsai
Oldie but a goodie! - Steve Rubel
Breathtaking. - James Mowery via twhirl
Amazing. Thanks - Parvez Halim
Wow ... this is incredible - Nick O'Neill
Mind-blowing! - David Fendley
this is really kewl...!! - Peter Dawson
very hip, I've seen this photo before (might have been on APOD) - Michael Kowalchik
sometimes good photography gives me goosebumps! - Phillip Jeffrey
great image - Pete Delucchi
incredible image - fotographic via twhirl
Wow, 153 people 'liked this" so far and almost 30 comments. - Andrew Baron
Absolutely incredible shot! Then again some of the best shots on the web come from NASA, National Geographic, Discovery and, of course, Hawk :) - Charlie Anzman
Not to be too cynical but that shot seems to good to be true -- I wonder if there is more processing going on than the text seems to admit. - Brian Sullivan
I'm enamored with that lightning. - Jason Toney
ahhh good one - Dobromir Hadzhiev
I'm going to side with Brian here. What is right: Comet McNaught was that bright in WA (I use to live there), but I checked my attempted pics, they predate this by over a week. I'm sure the comet was only that bright for less than a week. Second, the main Australia Day fireworks occur in Perth City...which isn't near a beach . Maybe it's Leighton Beach with Fremantle to the left...but it doesn't seem right. I did check the weather records though, there was a storm that night, and it's in the right direction - Duncan Riley
I do hope it is real though...and I forgot how wonderful the environment there is - Duncan Riley
Now the wallpaper on my iMac - Adam Helweh
Duncan, last year both Fremantle and I believe Hillarys held their own fireworks for Australia Day. I myself was trying to guess the location this morning. Being a regular on Leighton beach though it doesn't look familiar so I was thinking it may have been taken to the north of Hillarys. It also made me very nostalgic for Perth :) - Penny
wow, just wow - Mark Douglass
Amazing shot! - Timo Heuer
Unbelievable! - fbrunel
This is for sure a record post for me! 333 people liked this! - Andrew Baron
Congrats Andrew... this is truly a unique share!! thanks! :o) - Susan Beebe
Though I like the picture, I do agree with Brian Sullivan :( - directeur via NoiseRiver
Crazy looking - didn't even notice the comet until reading the site... - George Smith
Kick ass photo. - David Risley
smoke on the water - Harry Myhre
At 257 likes, the #1 most liked post of all time on FriendFeed (at least #1 of the past 30 days of my friends, and more than any other I can remember...). Antti Kemppainen Photography - Here's Antti's original picture http://jkemppainen.com/antti/i... Antti's e-mail is kemppaisantti@gmail.com, and you can scroll through Antti's other photos. - Mitchell Tsai
just incredible! - Geoff Kim
An absolutely stunning shot. - Brandon Wood
Still lovin this shot days later. :D - Andrew Baron
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yup I sure noticed , especially Thomas Hawk , amazing work - fotographic