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michael sean wright
The completely unauthorized, uncalled for nightcrew logo
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LOL! This one doesn't look like a convenience store sign - Rah-PM 2012
You're going to make Lacy jealous - Pete D
Can someone make a list of the Night Crew ;) - Brandon
no no Brandon, let's not to do that...anyone should be welcome and making a list will just exclude people... - Zee.
Looks good! There's something "Star Trek" [season 1] about it :) - JCunwired
Now thats a logo! - Michael Fidler
Yeah, NightCrew is just anyone who is around at ungodly hours... - Rah-PM 2012
WIN - Anna Haro
Does Kyle know about this? ;-) - Justin Korn
Ooooh, noice! - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Cool Logo! - Jeff P. Henderson
@zee oh yes... you're right. lol - Brandon
Very, very nice! - Daynah
Okay... come on people.. I say we vote on it.. :) - Kyle Lacy
Just remember- this is not a competition, just an exhibition. @Kyle - ever been to Culver, IN? Grew up there before moving to Chicago. - michael sean wright
Nice: I have been to Culver! You are in Chicago now? I will have to let you know next time I am up your way. - Kyle Lacy
LOVE - Mona Nomura
love it - anna sauce
Now on West Coast, Dana Point, CA. Family still in Chicago, visit as often as I can. - michael sean wright
That's us, all right. - Steven Perez
*** KEEPER!! Love it!! *** we should update the Facebook Night Crew page with this one!! Just wait till Kyle shows up! LOL - Susan Beebe
There's a Facebook Night Crew page? url please. - michael sean wright
I love it. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker
has it really been nearly 6 months since we've seen this? - michael sean wright
like a flash, nff - Pete D
Wow, blast from the past. - Rochelle
WTF? Damn, How'd I miss this? - tehKenny
Yeah, baby! Makes me wanna stay up a little lo.....*snoooooooooooooooooooore* - Rah-PM 2012
have no idea how you east coasters do it. but dang it's fun to be around ff at night! - michael sean wright
A lot of coke...uh...caffeine... - Rah-PM 2012
It looks like at least 5 or 6 yes votes, and 0 no votes. The logo is official. Now put it back into storage. - Pete D
Is there a theme song? - Rebecca Lasley
The theme song to Mr. Belvedere. - Pete D
I remember... :) - Micah
is it time? - michael sean wright
"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." - Douglas Adams . So I think I'll go have some lunch. - David HC Soul
isn't time universal? - michael sean wright
Not sure about that, but: "Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future and time future contained in time past. If all time is eternally present all time is unredeemable." - Swatch, Always Now, 1997 (and yes my lunch, at 1:42am local, is consisting of a double martini so that actually makes some sense to me) - David HC Soul
are you saying that time "now" has no meaning? i (obv.) reject this but toast your willingness to acknowledge the wisdom of a dean martin martini. now, for you sir, on to the work of most importance. focus on the permanent. - michael sean wright
Well, I will grant that the sentiment of French Marshall Lyautey has some merit (he asked his gardener to plant a tree and when the gardener objected that the tree was slow growing and would not reach maturity for 100 years the Marshall was said to have replied, 'In that case, there is no time to lose; plant it this afternoon!').... So I am off to plant some trees.... - David HC Soul
you, i like. and will point you to Hermann Hesse before he won the Nobel Prize for 'The Glass Bead Game' in which he wrote in in the idyllic poem "Hours in the Garden" (1936)- 'I hear music and see men of the past and future. I see wise men and poets and scholars and artists harmoniously building the hundred-gated cathedral of the Mind." - (forword to Glass Bead Game by by Hermann Hesse by Theodore Ziolkowski.) - michael sean wright
Thanks for the pointer - I'll go search it out. - David HC Soul
this is about conversation right? - michael sean wright from IM
I hope so. The thought is consuming much of my waking hours these days.... But I have to be up in 5 hours... so will have to return to the 'nightcrew' tomorrow night. One thing about time is it does seem to age one.... - David HC Soul
sleep perchance to dream, a wise man said. Billy Shakespeare. - michael sean wright
Then pause now to ask yourself the following question: "Am I dreaming or awake, right now?" - David HC Soul
remember when? - michael sean wright
Yes, sir. - Akiva
You bet I remember. :) - Micah from FFHound!
HAH!!! - Rah-PM 2012
WHAT! WHAT!!!! - DB - Just DB
*bump* remember the good ole days? ps - search is back :D - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Attention friendfeed nightcrew: have we circled each other yet on @GooglePlusTweet (google +) ? http://gplus.to/nicefishfilms - michael sean wright
man, most of the ppl who liked this i haven't seen on FF in ages. maybe i'm doing it wrong. - Joe The Sausage
for most of us we met here, stayed loyal here but the sun set long ago : ( what a rush of a time that was! now we find ourselves over at g+ telling stories of the good ol' days! - michael sean wright
Why, hello there, 2008. :) - Micah
...and keep the fire alive by finding each other again in a new place. - WoH: Minding her Steves
yep.. scoble and i talked about that in my first post at g+ : ) - michael sean wright
Hi Michael :) - WoH: Minding her Steves
Meme-inless no more! always been an interesting world with you! - michael sean wright
oh and... i do have some google+ invites left - email me nicefishfilms at g ma i l dot co m - michael sean wright
I'm curious now - did google + make you come back to FF? Because that is v interesting. - WoH: Minding her Steves
yes, we did the podcast when ff was acquired by the book of face.. watched them absorb the real-time elements and i check in from time to time usually through this post as it brings back very fond memories. google + reminds me of the early days of ff - haven't felt that way about any of the social nets that have come since the facedbooked swallow up. heaven knows we've been on them all and they seem so ancient now -- quora anyone? google got it right with +. think it marks the next era for them. - michael sean wright
Google + right now does remind me of the FF glory days and I am curious to see what happens next. - WoH: Minding her Steves
:) - Anne Bouey
Kol Tregaskes
An interesting idea from Eran Sandler here: http://twitter.com/erans..., could FriendFeed please display, link, or ideal have an expand option to show the 'in-reply-to' text for @replies tweets?
This would help with the annoyance of the @replies on FriendFeed which a lot of people have. #betakoltag-sg-extservices - Kol Tregaskes
Seriously needed! Even just a link would be better than nothing. - Boris Gordon
In general it would be great if FriendFeed would be a full-featured Twitter client. It would remove the feeling of having to choose to be on FriendFeed or on Twitter. Most cool thing would be if FriendFeed could actually make conversation threading for tweets. If a tweet has a in_reply_to id, then it should be shown on FriendFeed as a comment on the original tweet (from perhaps a "virtual" FriendFeed user, if the Twitter user is not on FF), together with all other replies to that tweet. - Meryn Stol
In this scenario, only tweets which do not have in_reply_to id specified would be shown in the user's feeds. The rest would be attached as comments to other people's tweets, and would be shown to subscribers to that user through the regular FF "FoaF" feature. - Meryn Stol
Meryn, I don't think it should be a comment but a link or something to expand under the tweet. A comment would make it very confusing. - Kol Tregaskes
Yeah, which is why the expanded Twitter entry should be included last inside the FF post/comment proper, and clearly delimited as such; e.g. [In response to CNETNews: " Second Life cracks whip on adult content http://tinyurl.com/d39fk7 " http://twitter.com/CNETNew... ] or similar format. - ianf ⌘
Yep, like I say either a link to the 'in-reply-to post' or the ability to expand it under the entry. it definitely shouldn't be a comment or visible initially. - Kol Tregaskes
Bump. - Kol Tregaskes
Tim Hoeck
Custom buttons is a go.. Still working on the photos, work in progress. Will need beta testers soon. Sign here. - Tim Hoeck
Matthew.. I'm working on that part :P Lots of stuff to get in here.. - Tim Hoeck from AndFeed
I'm very curious to see how this turns out. It's looking great so far, just based off of what I'm seeing in the pics. - Jonathan Hardesty
I'd be interested in beta testing also. Would be interesting to see intents published from andfeed to other apps, as others have stated. E.G. it would be obvious to have the 'share in..' itent (ala Beelicious/Email/SMS). - Eric Sinclair
Eric, if you have thoughts on what should be provided, let me know. - Tim Hoeck
A thought from the pictures, I might prefer having the bottom icons appear when pressing menu rather than always using screen real estate. Looking forward to a beta/release/whatever. - DMKrow
Yes, I eagerly await using this. I hope development hasn't slowed because of the FB purchase. - Andy Bakun
No Andy, I will definitely still be releasing this, most likely in the coming weeks. Development slowed because a) I converted to v2 of the api, b) I moved last week :) and c) I have to hustle on finishing my ADC2 entry, which I only have about 10 more days to do, and I am only one person working on this - Tim Hoeck
News about this? Screenshot are really interesting, but I would like to try the app ^__^ - A!ndrea
I'd also like to try this if possible. - Rodericus
I would like to try the app too. Any news? - Smeerch
is there anything i can do to try ? - siniradam
Nathan Chase
Hey everyone. Take a listen to a new song by my band, The Pauses, called "Go North" - let me know what you think!
Love the opening guitar so far! Wow, good singer. Sounds like Blondie. - Kathy Fitch
i'm on drums, by the way. - Nathan Chase
Nice work, Nathan. - Kathy Fitch
I hear glockenspiel - Josh Haley
@LLL - Not yet - this is the first new recorded track from a series of demos we're working on - Nathan Chase
@Josh - yep. there's some mad bells action in there. ;) - Nathan Chase
BTW, the band's at http://thepauses.com - Nathan Chase
I like it! Great track! Drums suck tho. KIDDING! You're awesome dude. - Josh Haley
Hehehe... thanks! - Nathan Chase
[like] - Alejandro
I like the sound and good song. Did the guitarist mix it? Personally, i'd like the vocals to stand out more and the guitar just a tad less in areas but i like it. Very nice. /grats - ·[▪_▪]·
yeah we mixed/mastered ourselves... I agree - the vocals as a whole could be a little more present. getting them to be up front without "hearing the mic" is a tough balance. - Nathan Chase
wow, that was really great. - Thom Allen
thanks Thom! - Nathan Chase
we're on Facebook too - if you wanted to "become a fan" - http://www.facebook.com/pages... - Nathan Chase
nice. Good vocals! Drums kick arse! - Vicarbott
@Jim - thanks! - Nathan Chase
nice song, so re: the tech - you ended up w/ enclosure generated by postero.us then reshared to your main feed, that produced the playbar? - mike "glemak" dunn
@Mike - that's correct. I imported the postero.us as a service to a private FriendFeed group, and reshared the imported post to my Home feed - Nathan Chase
vocals to the front, guitars to the back, and a great track you have there. - Marcos Marado
Here's us playing it live at a recent gig: http://friendfeed.com/nathanc... - it was shot using Qik on an iPhone to stream it live, so sound/video quality isn't the best. - Nathan Chase
Needs more cowbell. But quite good even without. =) - ronin
@ronin - haha. indeed. - Nathan Chase
@Aden - thanks! yeah she's got a really cool and distinctive voice. and she has a total rockstar name - Tierney Tough. - Nathan Chase
if you liked the track, please vote it up over at http://www.cherrypeel.com/song... - thanks! - Nathan Chase
Awesome, when you make it big time maybe layer more guitar tracks on top, but what do i know, you're the musician. PS peeps song keeps getting better as it goes. - SteVe C
thanks Steve - yeah, we only have the single guitarist, so we just tried to capture what we pull of live, with a bit more polish. Glad you like the track! - Nathan Chase
Dude, this is your band? I stumbled on them today completely unrelated and by accident. Strange days... great band. I love both tracks, want more, will pay ;) - Michael W. May
You're not going to believe this, but I didn't get a chance to hear this when you posted it, and then MWM linked me to the band's MySpace, and I just started randomly listening and was like, hey, great drum work. I SWEAR I thought that before I even looked at the people in the band and realized it was your band! I really like your sound. - Jandy
Love the intro (guitar is fun). Drums great throughout. Please let me know where to find a website or something for your band, Nathan! This is just up my alley! - Chieze Okoye
Michael & Jandy - wow! that's awesome! :) How did you come across the band, Michael? - Nathan Chase
@Chieze - we're at http://thepauses.com - Nathan Chase
Awesome! :) - Rah-PM 2012
likes - Eric
I don't know *piss-poor memory* :P It may have been via Cherrypeel, as I was going through emails earlier of sites I've signed up for but had forgotten about. But I cannot recall for certain. - Michael W. May
Yeah, Cherrypeel might be it. That's really the only other place other than MySpace and Facebook that we have songs up online. - Nathan Chase
It could have been Myspace, but I don't see what would have led me to your page. I did end up there, though *points to friend request and blog sub* - Michael W. May
Friend Request Approved! :) - Nathan Chase from IM
Also just sent a Friend Request. Oh, the other thing I thought seeing the MySpace page? Wow, a MySpace page that doesn't suck! ;) - Jandy
Nice! Yeah, wanted it to be something different when you first see it. Also tried to keep it as simple as we could (simple for a MySpace page, anyway) - Nathan Chase from IM
Bump that funky music - Josh Haley
Bump! 8 plays already; I'm loving this track, Nathan. And The Migration is not far behind... - Michael W. May
MWM, if you want to hear another track you can watch this live video of one of our songs, "Beyond Bianca": http://vids.myspace.com/index... - Nathan Chase
We put together a little video to help our fundraising. Check it out, let me know what you think: http://www.kickstarter.com/project... - Nathan Chase
Kol Tregaskes
Today is FriendFeed's "Subscribe Sunday" - http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs...
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Thanks goes to the combination of Alfredo (http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...), vijay (http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt and Praveen (http://friendfeed.com/praveen...). Thank you very much guys. I can assure everyone they should be very grateful to these guys as you wouldn't have wanted any logo I made as I'm awful at creating them. Find out more about FF-Subscribe Sunday here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - Kol Tregaskes
My boys! - Shevonne
err my name :p - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
@Alredo Whats wrong with your name? - Shevonne
Oops, corrected. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Alfredo I KNOWWWWW hahahahah - Shevonne
I need to check my posts more, I'm terrible at it. Ask Manuela. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
@Kol doesn't matter. We all knew who "Alredo" was. I do the same. I always screw up my spelling on here - Shevonne
It's ok, Klo. - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Shevonne, hehe. :-) Thanks Bce. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
The Green Cross Society ? :) perhaps bevel it to make it look like a button, eh ? - Ahsan Ali
Haha. Shevonne is back if we haven't noticed. :P - Amani
Hehe. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Cool logo. It doesn't represent "Sunday", though. - LouCypher
I like it. What would you change about it, Lou? - Kol Tregaskes
And a quick reminder about FF Subscribe Sunday, why not join in: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - Kol Tregaskes
Cool - I like that, so who are we subscribing to on sunday? - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Red letters on white perhaps, or picture of the sun. - LouCypher
Lou, cool idea! I'll speak to the designer. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Dan, check the group's description. Basically it's like Twitter's followfriday but for FriendFeed. Pick someone from FF you want to recommend and follow the guidelines on the group. - Kol Tregaskes
Bumped as a reminder for today. :-D - Kol Tregaskes
Nice icon! - Just Katie
Thanks, Katie, it came from a combination of vijay, Alfredo and Praveen. - Kol Tregaskes
It's that time again, folks! :-) My FF-SS this week is Nicola: http://ff.im/2KDUY, who is yours? - Kol Tregaskes
Here's a good list of people to follow and promote if you're stuck for ideas: http://ff.im/3pIES - Kol Tregaskes
Just a suggestion but if you add "_GG72" to your FF-SS tweets they will then appear here: http://ftags.com/GG72 - Kol Tregaskes
Bumping for today. - Kol Tregaskes
New name and new guidelines, check the post here: http://ff.im/4MXRD - Kol Tregaskes
This is now called FollowFriday (well for the moment anyway). Please recommend a fellow FriendFeeder that we should follow. Mine is Rochelle here: http://friendfeed.com/ff-foll... - Kol Tregaskes
Heh, but it's Friday today! ;) - Tyson Key
Yeah's I'm trying a new name. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
And a new day. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Bumping as it was mentioned recently. Should this is Sunday, Friday or what day? - Kol Tregaskes
Don't forget to promote your fellow FriendFeeders. - Kol Tregaskes
Jimminy, CoG of FF
So what religion do I have to be to get out of paying taxes for not having health insurance or picking up health insurance?
If you belong to the church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster I thing you can get an exemption. http://www.venganza.org/ - Jeff P. Henderson
It wouldn't be a Christian one. - John (bird whisperer)
Well, without any health insurance, you can probably be declared insane. That should do it. - JCunwired
You already pick up health costs in the form of people who show up to the ER because they put off preventable conditions because they don't have health insurance. As someone who already pays those taxes (if you're paying taxes), you'll actually be paying less (or at least have more public monies left to go to things like education) if they get treated earlier and more cheaply. - Spidra Webster
You can live in the Santa Cruz mountains killing squirrels for food and come into town for supplies once in a while. I guess you still have to pay taxes. Nevermind. - Rodfather
@Spidra: don't try to confuse people with logic! - Joe The Sausage
Spidra, the bill actually acts as an inflationary agent, it might be covered but the costs will still rise, it's the exact same thing that happened when the government got involved with subsidizing education, which they also passed in the HCR bill a section that makes it so that the government will be the prime lender. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
@Jimminy: show us what you base this on. - Joe The Sausage
I dunno if it passed, but there was an Amish exemption at one point. - surf guitar
Joe, it is based on economic fact, that because the government makes it more affordable to go to school, demand goes up, as demand goes up supply goes down, so prices go up, every year this happens, and the government increases the amount that they subsidize to keep it affordable. Also, when schools try to add students they don't have room for quality of education goes down. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
"it is based on economic fact," Yes, you can see in single-payer countries how the demand for, say, casts and tumour removals has skyrocketed over time... =P - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, I wasn't referring directly to the bill, he asked for proof of what I based it on which is the inflation of the education system. Also, this isn't single payer, a single payer is a monopoly, and as such they can put you out of business, if you increase your rates to a point where they do not agree. The US however has never shown any backbone in trying to maintain costs, so it is very likely to spiral upward. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
In St Paul Religious Property are exempt from Property Taxes however assessments for specific services like streets, lighting, plowing etc are legal must be paid based on value of each property. I'm guessing most towns are hip to charging for services not umm taxes so being exempt isn't "really" exempt - WarLord
Though if you think about it, a religion founding to sorta kinda say fuck you society hardly seems a going concern or particularly you know religious - WarLord
"The US however has never shown any backbone in trying to maintain costs" You say that as if American insurers don't squeeze health care providers /all the time/. - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, sure they squeeze providers, to get their fucking tiny margins, otherwise the institutions that everyone keeps vilifying wouldn't be around, and everything would be out of pocket. If they weren't there, prices would have to come down, otherwise the providers would lose a large amount of money with their current pricing, but expensive operations wouldn't be feasible. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
If the private insurers weren't around, that doesn't mean everything would have to be out of pocket: there are also public insurers _such as Medicare_. Also, seriously, "tiny margins"? The health insurers keep shrinking their medical loss ratios. - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, the majority of people aren't eligible for public insurers such as Medicare, and there is more ways than one to shrink your MLR, other than squeezing the provider. You know how they do that they manage risk, which results in the dropping of existent issues and rescinding privileges, or they increase the rate of premiums, 2 of those 3 other options are now gone, which result in the primary gap in the MLR, and I'm glad they're gone. - Jimminy, CoG of FF
"the majority of people aren't eligible for public insurers such as Medicare" OK, you're seriously confusing me. On the one hand you're talking about what's happening right now, but on the other you're spinning wild hypotheticals like "what if the insurers were gone". If the private insurers disappeared, society could easily find alternatives besides paying for everything out of pocket. - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, I like how you're quoting statements that were never made. You stated that insurers squeeze providers, to which I rebutted with the fact that if they weren't here we would be paying out of pocket, and they only make tiny margins. So I didn't just spin a wild hypothetical. What alternative is there besides Out of pocket, Private Insurers, and Socialized Medicine, those are the... more... - Jimminy, CoG of FF
First off, I was paraphrasing with that last bit in quote marks. Now, to rewind a bit: (1) I said insurers squeeze providers as a rebuttal to your claim that the US system does not try to control costs. Let's be real. Insurers attempt to deny claims all the time. (2) I said that if _private_ insurers weren't around, then there would be public insurers, aka socialized medicine, not... more... - Andrew C (✓)
as for the "economic fact" you mentioned much earlier, I would suggest the demand for health care is pretty inelastic and not affected much by subsidies either in the form of widespread insurance or, well, any other form. (And again, you're the one who thought education was a viable analogy for health care; I just wanted to bring this back to actually talking about health care.) - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, apparently you didn't read, or possibly understand, what I've said. 1)"Lets be real. Insurers attempt to deny claims all the time." I had already stated that, that is were their current margins come from, "...dropping of existent issues and rescinding privileges." 2) "...not only everything would be out of pocket" I agreed that there would be public insurers, but the majority of... more... - Jimminy, CoG of FF
1) again, this goes back to my initially rebutting your claim that the US system does not try to control costs. (edit: ok, denying claims and squeezing providers are two different parts of controlling costs, but still.) (2) Why would public insurers mean "the majority of the system would be left to out of pocket expenses" ? (3) I'll let this one slide. (4) alright, I fundamentally disagree with your description of how medical insurance (or subsidized medical insurance) hurts the middle class. - Andrew C (✓)
Andrew, when I initially made that claim, it was in reference to the government not having any clue as to how to be fiscally responsible, not directly related to health care, just the way the US spends money, they have no clue of what something should cost, so they pay whatever the person demands. 2) Public insurers cannot provide for the costs of catastrophic coverage for all at any... more... - Jimminy, CoG of FF
(2) really? Seems to work fine in Canada. (4) I would say that increasing the risk pool and taking out the adverse selection problems (via the individual mandate) makes health insurance fundamentally more affordable for everyone. Pair that with existing state regulations or new federal ones and I think it will be fine. - Andrew C (✓)
didop
devir hız devri heheh. - didop
layk layk layk laaaaaaaaaaayk! en sevdigim soundtrack albumlerdendir spawn. - Fulya
likee buna like az bile - Duffy
:)) layk kardeşliği. eski OSTlere nur yağıyo bugün. - didop
azalarak bitsin o halde. kendimi kontrol edemiyorum, son bi tane daha. - didop
LOL ama bu albüm komple mükemmeldir. gelmis gecmis en mükemmel soundtrack'tir bu.. - Bahriye
Atilla bişi dicem, çok güdükçe olabilir niheh bilmediğimden yani. Şimdi ben #atibunabakbirara yazarsam bi yere, o da saylanıyo mu? Seni şaşırtabilir miyim atibunabak atibunabak diye:) Öyle esti birden görünce. Bu albüme bak ama evet. - didop
şimdi onu yapınca atibunabakbirara diye arattıklarımda çıkıyor :D tabiki benim bakmamı istediğin herşeye yazabilirsin onu :D - Pichie Pich
"the warmth" olaydı da koyaydım derken... - didop
ben senin yerine koyarim didopum. live mi istersin orijinal mi? - Fulya
yine aklima geldi de basli basina super OST. hemen acip dinleyim. - Fulya
ne istesem bulan müzik perisi misin, kovaladıkça kaçan ateş böceği misin :D oricinal olsun yav, ama dersen ki live kayıt iç gıcıklayıcı güveniyorum dabiki de zevkine. :) - didop
senin icin ikisini de koyarim. - Fulya
^.^ lavli fulyi. - didop
bcultral
We Stand on the Cusp of one of Humanity's Most Dangerous Moments - http://www.alternet.org/media...
We Stand on the Cusp of one of Humanity's Most Dangerous Moments
"We will have to resist the temptation to fold in on ourselves and to ignore the cruelty outside our door." - bcultral from Bookmarklet
Joe Hewitt
Please, folks, teach your kids not to insist on getting credit for everything they do. Life is better when you realize it doesn't matter.
bcultral
YouTube - FORMER FBI CHIEF SAYS 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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InvisibleFist
Master Your Freedom Because Being The Slave To A Master SUCKS! - http://tipd.com/Persona...
Fatih Turul
"what "have we" become just look what we have done all that we destroyed you must build again no more presidents and all the wars will end"
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Little chiiiiiild, DRY YOUR CRYING EYES! - Josh Haley
How can I explain the fear you feel inside... - Fatih Turul
Çok severim .... - Bahar
Derrick
Also, I just made Chrome my default browser. Feel free to RT that.
You have chosen wisely - RAPatton from iPhone
RT: Derrick has made Chrome his default browser. - DGentry
So much faster than Firefox. - Derrick
I did that a couple of months ago. Haven't been happier since I discovered Firefox. - Jandy
I did this a week or two ago and am generally lovin' it. Missing Zotero, that's about it. - Your Neighbor Steve
I love chrome! - Beau Liening from FreshFeed
Chrome is great! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
nice. - metalerik
I remain a Firefox loyalist. - laura x
I've been going half & half but using Chrome a lot more lately. - Rodfather
Was there a specific feature that made you switch to Chrome? - Rah-PM 2012
Firefox was being flaky a while back, so I switched to Chrome too. I like it. - tab
Derrick- I started using Chrome as my default a few weeks ago. Liking it a lot. - David Rothman (☤)
My only qualm is that Chrome is a memory hog. It was making everything else run a bit sluggishly at work today. Hmmm. #conflicted - Derrick
Firefox--partly because I'd just as soon defy the Googleplex in its efforts to take over all of my computing life. (And, actually, Bing's turning out to be a good search engine.) - Walt Crawford
I use Chromium (unbranded version of Chrome) at home on my desktop and netbooks running ubuntu 9.10. At work I'm stuck with Firefox because of some extensions that I wouldn't be able to do my job without (monitoring 5 screens on two monitors and trying to do other work doesn't get any better unless you have the Sideshow extension for firefox :P ) - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Kol Tregaskes
Twitter has it's Twitter's #followfriday, FriendFeed has it's 'Subscribe Sunday'. So why not recommend a fellow FriendFeeder! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I've done this in the past but wasn't really well organised then I saw Charlie suggest it here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/charlie... and I hooked onto the name, "Sunday Subscribe". OK, maybe not as cool as FollowFriday but it's our version so what the heck. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
For the "rules" see this post here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - basically though, pick a FFer to recommend, follow the format here, share the post to the room and the user and anywhere else plus you might like to CC it to Twitter. - Kol Tregaskes
You'll find the group here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... - please pass on to others and invite as many people as you like. - Kol Tregaskes
First up: Manuela (http://beta.friendfeed.com/pushkin). Absolutely brilliant FFer, love all her posts! Basically if you like creative designs and art you'll really appreciate Manuela's share. Manuela finds some great photography too. So check her feed out and past on this post. - Kol Tregaskes
But it's Saturday. - Vezquex
Not here, it's 1am Sunday morning. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
she shares interesting stuff. subscribed. ;) - Alejandro
Already subbed...I just wanted to say she's a FANTASTIC ffer. :-)) - Anna Haro
Anna, I completely agree! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
omg Kol!! I woke up and found many Easter eggs in my email inbox. Thanks! - Manuela
and Anna you're super fantastic too!! - Manuela
<333 Manuela - Dobromir Hadzhiev
hehe, already subbed. Her feed is awesome right from the name (Manuela!), to her profile pic to her posts to the people who visit her posts. Fantastic way to kick off #SUBSCRIBESUNDAY. - vijay
Vijay *blush* - Manuela
gotcha already too :) - The Real sofarsoShawn
No worries, Manuela! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Thanks, Håkan. How about joining the group here: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... and posting your own "Subscribe Sunday"? :-) - Kol Tregaskes
Already sub'd to her too .... Great art posts ;) - Brandon
Good to see this has got onto the Best of page. Hopefully more people we sub to Manuela's great content! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
BTW: we have a new logo: http://beta.friendfeed.com/ff-subs... :-) - Kol Tregaskes
I <3 her - Shevonne
i love her blue eyes - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Stella <3 - Neya
Already subbed =) - Praveen Vasudev
Cool, Praveen. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
This weekend FF-SS is Steven: http://ff.im/2xVUX - Kol Tregaskes
Myrna
A mind at peace, a mind centered and not focused on harming others, is stronger than any physical force in the universe. via @DrWayneWDyer
Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I'm sorry. I just don't believe you...
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But Raah-ob! *adjust cleavage* - Spidra Webster
Yes, I think it's all downhill from here. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
"downhill" nudge nudge wink wink - Spidra Webster
I'm sure someone will purchase her beats. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Spammer on blast. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio) from iPhone
imabonehead
Google Nexus Two with QWERTY, is the Motorola Shadow? | Android Community - http://androidcommunity.com/google-...
Google Nexus Two with QWERTY, is the Motorola Shadow? | Android Community
"We advice you to have the salt shaker ready on this one. As you might remember, Google’s Vice President of Engineering Andy Rubin recently talked about Google’s plan for an enterprise version of the Nexus One. Apparently, the Motorola Shadow will be the Nexus Two with a hardware keyboard." - imabonehead from Bookmarklet
Now we're talking .. physical keyboards FTW ! - Andrew Perry
I hope this comes to Sprint...but judging from the color schemes, I think I have an idea where it's going. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Motorola's on a hot streak: Droid, Motoroi, and now Shadow. - Vezquex
How's this different from Droid? Besides the design update. - TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
Never mind. These are the changes you are looking for: "The handset is believed to have a large 4.3″ touchscreen of either 850 x 484 pixels or 854 x 480 pixels, an 8-megapixel camera capable of shooting High Def video and HDMI port." That sounds stellar. I think 4.3 is the holy grail for pocketable screens. That's about the size of the PSP screen. - TINY REPTILIAN PYROMANIAC
LANjackal
"According to new data from ChangeWave Research, both usage and consumer sentiment towards Google's mobile operating system Android has increased over the past several months. As of December 2009, the research firm's survey shows that 4% of all smartphone owners now use a phone running some version of the Android OS. That's an increase of 200% since the previous survey released in September." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
LANjackal
"After more than 10,000 votes, the Nexus One has thoroughly annihilated the iPhone 3GS. The Nexus One captured a full 66% of the poll (6743 votes), while the iPhone 3GS was only able to muster 28% support (2818 votes). 592 of you declared it a tie. This result almost exactly mirrors our Android vs. iPhone OS poll, where Android (Android) garnered 66% of the vote to the iPhone OS’s 30%. Still, we’re shocked that a device that’s only been out for a few weeks could crush Apple’s device so thoroughly." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
InvisibleFist
Video: There is no democracy.There is only IBM and ITT, and AT&T, and Du Pont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon.Those... http://www.facebook.com/permali...
Alexander Kruel
Catching up on lost sleep a dangerous illusion - http://news.harvard.edu/gazette...
"People who are chronically sleep-deprived may think they’re caught up after a 10-hour night of sleep, but new research shows that although they’re near-normal when they awake, their ability to function deteriorates markedly as night falls…" - Alexander Kruel from Bookmarklet
"Staying up for 24 hours straight is bad enough, but the study shows that if you do that on top of having gotten less than six hours of sleep a night for two to three weeks, your reaction times and abilities are 10 times worse than they would have been just pulling an all-nighter, says Daniel Cohen, a neurologist at Harvard Medical School and lead author of the study in Wednesday’s Science Translational Medicine…" - Alexander Kruel
Paul Buchheit
It's kind of awesome to see a big company make such a confrontational statement. It seems like a big risk -- I wonder if there's something I'm missing? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010...
That was one of my thought exactly (the first part). - Micah
Paul, did you propose the "Don't be evil" motto in Google? - @zaps
I think maybe if they're popular enough they can get China to change some policy. Of course, it's probably going to end up like Tianamen Square, where the whole world thinks it's great but nobody in China is ever allowed to hear about it and nothing changes. - Gabe
I suspect Google have been waiting for this expected 'opportunity' to arise so that they have a legitimate (political) reason to drop the search result filtering. - zeroinfluencer
Sadly, I agree with Gabe - I think they'll go down in a blaze of glory. I hope I'm wrong. - Nick Lothian
The loss is more future potential than current. Baidu has something like 77% marketshare, but handing them a virtual monopoly at this point will be even more difficult to unseat in the future. Lotsa cost, worry over security/IP issues, and little benefit at the current time. I feel sad that Google might have to abandon China, but they're not making headway in marketshare, have... more... - Ray Cromwell
What if this was the plan all along? Increase market share as much as possible then stop censoring results? Getting shut out of China achieves nothing if the Chinese people don't know you exist, but getting shut out when you have 200 million users increases the likelihood of affecting change. - Kevin Fox
Awesome to see the inventor of "do no evil" say that, too :-) - Jesse Stay
Nope but this rocks - my love hate relationship with google swapped over to love today. - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
Google's at 17% or so in China - that's a lot of share to give away (although apparently Yahoo disagrees, but anyway). I suspect a lot of Chinese students who leave China to study won't be using Gmail as their default email address anymore (given that they won't have access when they go home) - Nick Lothian
17% market share in China represents more people than 100% market share in Germany, France and Spain combined. - Kevin Fox
I think there's a lot we're missing. Stop swooning and start thinking. The justification starts with a review of a cyber attack. Presume that is *maybe* the starting point. Possibly Google has infrastructure built in cooperation with the Chinese government that exposes Google to too much risk. Possibly Google _can't_ run the search service they've promised the Chinese government (either... more... - Christopher Galtenberg
Rather than discuss motives, let's discuss/predict the government response. One thing's for sure, they won't just let Google get its away. If the government is afraid of individuals defying it, and religious organizations, how do you think they're going to feel about a foreign company essentially saying <Eric Cartman voice> "I do what a want!". In fact, I fear for the employees of the... more... - Ray Cromwell
Good point Ray. I wonder if Google also cut off their China office from the internal network in order to prevent that? - Paul Buchheit
I'd be more worried about the soldiers showing up at the door of the Google China office with AK-47s. - Gabe
A country of well over a billion people is not something you want to mess with. Especially in the stance of Google. Googles search business relies solely on numbers. Cutting those people off is a huge gamble. But Google has some crazy stones to do it. - Hunter Clarke
Wow. I hope Google stands firm! - Jay
@Ray - yes, I'd be worried about Chinese Google employees. If you followed the China/Rio Tinto story at all (http://www.nytimes.com/2009...) then you can see a precedent. - Nick Lothian
I predict the government will launch a character assassination campaign and drum up nationalist fervor in the media. The government has already been unduly helping Baidu (probably People's Liberation Army owns shares), and I have a feeling we'll see stories like "Google uses human rights excuse to quit China because pure Chinese company Baidu is beating them badly" or some such. This... more... - Ray Cromwell
I think what matters today is not speculation about the Chinese gov't response, but how this should be responsibly reported. I hate how we collectively get lost in ooh-aah stuff. - Christopher Galtenberg
I remember reading an Op-ed in a German newspaper over the holidays that argued it was high time to show some backbone vis-a-vis China. On all levels. Not saber-rattling, but backbone. As in: We don't care if it costs us some money. The opposite of what short-term profit motivation has done over the last 15 or so years: Hand them the keys to everything, nearly uncontested...I applaud Google showing some backbone. Maybe this can become a trend. - Alex Schleber
Christopher, at this point, there's not much to report except quote Google's blog post, which is what most outfits are doing. Until someone interviews Google and representatives of the Chinese government, we're in an information vacuum. - Ray Cromwell
Christopher: Fair and Balanced, huh? - Ashwin Bharambe
@Christopher - only approved media outlets are allowed to speculate on the Chinese gov't response or something? The people in this thread know as much (or more) than the media do, so I prefer to hear their opinions. - Nick Lothian
Since we are speculating - I wonder what kind of attack gets access to the subject line of emails but not the contents? - Nick Lothian
Gee guys, overreact away. And I think we should be the ones thinking and writing/reporting, if you read... never mind. - Christopher Galtenberg
I'm not sure worrying about a government crack down is overreacting. I think it's legitimate and prudent to speculate that's going to happen. For some people, this might even have practical fallout: friends or family members working in Google China offices. - Ray Cromwell
Most Chinese repression is happening under the radar, and that's by design. They act like a secretive mega-corporation... they won't do something if it lands them on the front page of the NYT (hurting their bottom line). So consider what they could do that wouldn't really attract attention (because we wouldn't normally focus on it). Most certainly they won't do anything until this story slips out of our attention (36 hours, 30 days, 6 months from now -- it's up to us). - Christopher Galtenberg
Some are reporting that Google sites in China are now blocked. I generally believe they are getting more sophisticated at this, but recall that they cracked down hard on Tibet during the Olympics which was still covered by the media. - Ray Cromwell
Ironic Google recommends everyone putting antivirus products on their computers to defend against these attacks. Not sure about McAfee, but Symantec develops most of its products in China now... Hard pressed to find a bigger security risk than developing security software offshore in a sometimes hostile country. - Ed Millard
MSE FTW :) - LANjackal from IM
Pretty sure Microsoft also has a large development operation in China now, though not sure which products. - Ed Millard
http://www.infowar-monitor.net/2009... is a fairly detailed report on "Targeted Malware Attack on Foreign Correspondents based in China" by Nart Villeneuve (who was linked to in Google's blog post). In that case the malware was only detected by 3/41 tested anti-virus products. - Nick Lothian
"Moreover, the attacker(s)' IP addresses.. trace back.. to Hainan Island, home of the Lingshui signals intelligence facility and the Third Technical Department of the People's Liberation Army", pg 48, http://www.scribd.com/doc... - Nick Lothian
think some information is better than none to the chinese. I am concerned with China getting away with limiting information to its people, now that Google wont be able to offer not even filtered data. Really, communist regimes feed off isolating the population from world information. Information is a weapon, and they know it. In Cuba for instance, the government has succeed limiting the... more... - Adelein Ro
+1 Nick, interesting article and interesting website. - Ed Millard
I think Google is truly pissed off at some things the Chinese government did. - Mike Cassidy
I applaude Google's move. However, while I do not like conspiracy theories, I'm suggesting one now. I do not think Google could have made such a bold move without at least consulting US government. What if a hidden agenda of this move is to provoke Chinese government retaliation and is a pretext for a full blown trade war? - ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
But why would the government want a trade war? Most of Obama's economics believe that resorting to protectionism/beggar-thy-neighbor policies will just repeat the mistakes of the Great Depression. If anything, given the world economy, most countries want to prevent a tit-for-tat trade war. - Ray Cromwell
It is rarely disputed that protectionism prolonged the Great Depression and yes, apparently Obama's economic team supports this view. But some view it as survivalism, not protectionism. For instance, tariff on tires from China was imposed in September 2009. With 7M jobs lost and no clear way to bring them back, "not made in China" is quite easy populistic approach. With that said, I do not want to steer this thread into the realm of politics and economics. - ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
The US can't afford a trade war with China (neither can China, but that's not the point). But I do think the US government wouldn't mind too much if China got the message that their hacking activities are going too far and are too widespread to be accepted any longer. - Nick Lothian
I suspect that if Google were to embargo China it will be as useful as the US embargo of Cuba. - Gabe
wonder how many _more_ Russian hackers will be necessary to include Russia to same list? - A. T.
outside Google China HQ: http://ss9.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle... - quote on the label: "Google, real man!" - Ray(http://sangu.me)
ǝuǝƃnǝ: I think you're really onto something there. I'm more of a mind to think that the US government was very involved in this decision, and may have provided intel to Google. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
in response to Ray Cromwell, I almost agreed with you but then you do realize that 33 percent of a $12 trillion economy is kind of a legitimate reason to stay in business there, and reason to drwarf any other considerations from a business standpoint. The pr they will get will do nothing to diminish the profits lost from this decision. None the less, google has costs to spare... more... - Rajesh
Rob: I'm more of a mind to think that Google has provided intel to the US government :) - Tudor Bosman
Good point Tudor. I'm sure since the initial discovery it's gone both ways. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
China just passed a huge tort reform law. Might have something to do with it. - Donald C. Lindsay
I am not surprised tough, this is the road to which Yahoo, Flickr, and Youtube has been already down - Tardid
Paul Buchheit
Boston police now arresting people for taking cellphone video of them doing their public duty (such as, arresting people), claiming that it violates their privacy rights - http://www.reddit.com/r...
Can I arrest people who violates my own privacy rights as well? ;-) - alieb
Public officials have no privacy rights when they're in public. - Beau Liening from FreshFeed
Nobody has privacy rights in public. This has been going on all over the place for a while now. Good to see people are starting to realize what's happening. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Apparently it was inconvenient having those abuse videos show up on YouTube. - Paul Buchheit
WTF?!! are you serious? geesh that is sooo lame. This country is changing into a stupid one - Susan Beebe
Susan, and anyone else....you might want to see exactly how stupid our country has become. http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com/ - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Ah, well it's all youtube's fault, of course. - Laura Norvig from iPod
Also...another good source is http://carlosmiller.com/ - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I bet the police are worried about those videos showing up as evidence, so they freak out - Susan Beebe
Yes, they need to protect themselves from accountability. - Paul Buchheit
Definitely, no sense of responsibility. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
This is one reason I want our local Mayor to put public police records on Twitter. Yes, it exposes the innocent, but it also shows when innocent people are being arrested. Accountability and transparency are good! - Jesse Stay
Jesse, it will never happen. It would be awesome if it did.....but I have no hope. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
slayerboy, my Mayor wants to do it - I'm talking to him about it. The problem will most likely be the public doesn't allow it to happen though, ironically. People are too scared of the innocent being exposed, when in reality it is exposing the weaknesses of the Executive process. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, that's the problem....the public wants transparency, but when things get revealed that are too much to take, they don't want the openness of the innocent people being exposed with the exposure of the idiots. I'd love to see cameras in the cop cars stream directly to Qik or Ustream. We can't have openness and hide the stuff we don't want to expose. it's all or nothing. I'm... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I'm also pushing our Mayor to adopt this: http://www.veoh.com/collect... - Jesse Stay
Careful. The people being arrested haxe privacy rights. They're innocent until proven guilty in a court. They can also be coerced by the police into at minimum a lawsuit that might stick, when the false arrest fails. - Alfred C. Ingram
Alfred....the camera does not prove innocence or guilt of a person getting arrested. It just shows the person getting arrested and the cop's conduct. If everything is kosher, there's nothing to worry about. If the cop's conduct is that of a playground bully or scammer, then the camera shows this. The camera is intended to keep all parties truthful and honest. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
The practical effect of a citizen camera person is to embolden apprehended criminals, and to cow and frustrate police as criminals become like rabid fox news interviewers/provocateurs. Also it is well known flash cameras(to dazzle) +video(stalk, sexualize women police), and such, are more often used to harass and hinder police (especially women police) than to further accountability. If we need cameras install surveillance cams such as in London, in criminal hot-spots, I read they are immensely effective. - Bravid Valour
Bravid: if the act of filming is creating a dangerous situation, shouldn't the charges be something like public nuisance or disturbing the peace? - Mike Chelen
Bravid.....so you would prefer cameras put on every corner, run by government. That's equivalent to the camera in the car. They confiscate the camera/tape and "review" it for evidence. A very very small percentage of criminals would be emboldened by someone filming their being arrested. I've seen many videos of people pulling over to the side of the road when they see a cop handcuffing... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
This whole Liberal/Conservative, Big Government v's 'empowered individuals' is a ignoranters crock. Government does somethings better while individuals do other things better, and in my experience citizen camera vigilantes or anyone that takes the law and justice into their untrained and totally unaccountable hands create more public rage, injustice and violence than they solve. The... more... - Bravid Valour
Bravid, please refrain from personal attacks. This isn't a Liberal/Conservative issue. Like I said before, I'm an Anarchist and don't trust any political party. Furthermore, I don't watch Fox news and actually despise them. This isn't about taking justice into our own hands, this is about accountability. This is both about protecting those getting arrested and those who "protect and... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
TRAILER OF HOLLYWOOD DRAMATISATION of your chosen future...two police officer, mainsteet USA, nervously and perilously tackling a violent 'drugnk' who has been serially shaking down old, female or vulnerable people. He is finally cuffed, they stand and look around, within arms reach, encircling, is 50 or so people leering hatefully at the spooked and intimidated police, with $80 mobile... more... - Bravid Valour
Bravid....step away from hollywood. Clearly you're not grasping what I'm saying. I'm not saying the cops can't arrest people. I'm saying they need to have a sense of responsibility. As do the people who are filming. It's a two way street. If the cops are doing things right by "protecting and serving" the community and not harassing people just because they are doing something that they are "legally" allowed to do, then there is no harm no foul. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
BTW Bravid, welcome to friend feed :) I see by your profile you're new. Always nice to see new people around this place. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Also, I commented on that link on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r... "You have NO right to privacy in PUBLIC, whether you are a police officer, priest, thief, or average person. Also, those of you doing this, make sure you use a smartphone or a phone that supports streaming via Qik.com or Ustream.com. Cell... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
It is my right to film the police as long as I don't interfere or obstruct them in any way. If fool can film my every action in Times Square (etc) then I'm bloody well gonna film cops if I want to. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Cops have tried, in the past, to arrest people standing around to observe their actions (i.e. arresting someone) This is usually shown to be illegal. Occasionally the cops are within their rights because the person filming was "in the way". - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Exactly, all about responsibility on both sides, cops have the responsibility to act respectfully as do bystanders and videographers. Like I said, two way street. :) - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Right, and it's my opinion that one of the things that keeps cops respectful of those that they're detaining or arresting is citizens with cameras. The citizens are required (by common decency and sense, in addition to the law) to not interfere, but that is all. The cops film the incidents themselves, where is the harm? - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
It's not appropriate to automatically make everything public. The tapes should be made, but to stream them would violate the rights of innocents. Everyone pays attention to arrests. Exonerations typically don't get posted or paid any attention. - Tinfoil 2.0
LE, while I agree with you to some extent, the reason why I and many other people would prefer to stream in this case is the fact that police will confiscate cell phones and video cameras and DELIBERATELY erase footage. This is why streaming is the better choice if possible. If you are outside or in a public building, nobody has a right to privacy. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Sure, stream it if there's an abuse going on, but otherwise leave it to due process. And you are right that there is no expectation of privacy in public, but that's no reason to drive us further into a surveillance state unless the specific situation warrants streaming/capture. - Tinfoil 2.0
once you walk out unto the street nothing is private - just ZONED
Constant surveillance has a chilling effect on many other valued rights. There must be a balance. - Tinfoil 2.0
the surveillance is usually done by individuals, not the government - we choose it directly. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
and, VAL is right - if you're doing it in public you're fair game - it was not a private acti, and IMO it can be filmed and delivered to interested people. (for profit is another story, however) - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
completely agree, if it's done for profit, that's a whole other issue and I would dissociate myself from a person if they did that because that's completely unethical. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ from IM
What's wrong with doing it for profit? - Gabe
Gabe, doing something that anyone can freely do and that is public to begin with, if someone was trying to make a profit on that, they'd be shunned by society. Why pay for something that can be gotten for free? Sure, nothing stopping anyone from charging a fee to check in on police in public, but there's a good chance that what Bravid points as a scenario above would come true. Think of... more... - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Tudor Bosman
I'm curious about how Google handled the logistics of this announcement. Is there concern about the personal safety of Google employees -- either in the China office, or US employees currently working from the China office? Were they given notice? Were they recalled (or strongly encouraged to come home early)?
I wonder that too. If I worked there, I'd be pretty nervous. - Paul Buchheit
I'd get out of Dodge. - Mark
From blog post: "We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today." - Richard Chen
China could decide to put them in jail for breaking the law. It has happened elsewhere. (there's a reason that Google emphasized that the decision was made in America) Also, there's a fair chance they'll lose their jobs. - Paul Buchheit
I wouldn't want to be there. I can only hope Google has taken some assurances that their employees won't be harmed. - Spencer
I think some information is better than none to the chinese. I am concerned with China getting away with limiting information to its people, now that Google wont be able to offer not even filtered data. Really, communist regimes feed off isolating the population from world information. Information is a weapon, and they know it. In Cuba for instance, the government has succeed limiting... more... - Adelein Ro
US employees in China are probably safe, assuming China's learned anything from the Boxer Rebellion. Even if they get arrested and convicted, they won't be tortured, and likely would just get deported back to the US instead of imprisoned. - Gabe
Same here. Wondered if they would be recalled. - Melanie Reed
They've been hauled in and interrogated before, according to some press reports, and it is likely that some will be brought in again in the near future. I think that's part of the job when you work with them and many take the job knowing that. - Andrew Leyden
What would China have to gain by arresting Google staff, it would be a public relations / diplomatic disaster, I think they are smarter than that. - Matt G
The report I read was that Google.cn staff were not informed very far in advance of the announcement. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Kol Tregaskes
What should I do for a new TV? LCD, LED or Plasma?
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I don't need a very big TV, nothing over 40in but really after a quality TV particular for my Xbox 360 and PS3. - Kol Tregaskes
LED for sure - mohamadreza
Like you even needed to ask. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
LED's are so expensive! I don't know if I've seen one in person, but I'm really happy with my LCD. - Derrick
3D won't work for me, I'm basically blind in one idea so 3D is pointless. - Kol Tregaskes
I'm the same, looking at a 37" Panasonic, Samsung or maybe LG? - Lee
Which LED's are good? - Lee
Toshiba's LED TVs are also good - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Here we go again ;) - Rodfather
I concur...not yet. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
I have a LED Samsung Un Series, the BEST HDTV quality I've ever seen ~ there's an argument :) - The Real sofarsoShawn
LED. :) - AJ Batac :)
LED TV is a misnomer; it's really a LCD TV that uses LEDs for the backlight instead of the usual fluorescent tube. LED TVs are thinner, have a longer life, and use up less power, but the image quality is likely similar to that of a regular LCD TV. I'd recommend buying a LCD TV if you want one today (the prices are reasonably low). - Tudor Bosman
LED TVs are not always thinner. This is only true if they are edge lit. LED LCD sets with local dimming will not be appreciably thinner than a CFL lit LCD set. And the difference in PQ between a local dimming LED and CFL lit LCD is sizable. - Scoble, Alex Scoble
(and I'm not getting into a home theater argument with Alex Scoble :) ) - Tudor Bosman
@Tudor right and wrong :) LED is a sub-type of LCD, you're correct in saying they're backlit, but the difference is quality can be quite substantial. via Cnet: http://get.sfu.ca/CJuHDy "An LED TV is actually a kind of LCD TV that uses LEDs, or light-emitting diodes, instead of the standard fluorescent backlight to illuminate the screen. Some LED-based LCD TVs are extremely thin and some... more... - The Real sofarsoShawn
I think I already said that, Shawn. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
LOL I'm just minding your P&Q's/CFL's for us layman. And I should add, maybe more expensive, but definitely worth it. - The Real sofarsoShawn
but 1080p is a mark of e-peen! I'm waiting for the first mobile to try claiming "full 1080p HD!" ;0 - alphaxion
Thanks guys, I'll read all your comments later. :-) - Kol Tregaskes
From a person's point of view who watches almost no tv but drools walking into best buy comparing tv's. LED's win hands down...the images just pop out from the screen compared to LCD. LED's are wicked expensive (at least in my area). - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
LANjackal
"There are a number of new APIs on board, including for the animated wallpapers, network signal detail, UI tweaks, geolocation permissions, databases." - LANjackal from Bookmarklet
ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
[Media Fakery]-Reveal HangoutOP, to distract from 9/11 TV Fakery-Operation Facts: 'Michael Jordan' - http://www.examiner.com/x-19632...
[Media Fakery]-Reveal HangoutOP, to distract from 9/11 TV Fakery-Operation Facts: 'Michael Jordan'
[http://ff.im/cDbXV ] December 8, 3:48 PM http://www.examiner.com/x-19632... "...Michael Jordan look-alike hired ..." ---of course this is a limited hangout fake scandal story, to distract of the growing evidence, that the 9/11 TV Fakery facts had been used to distract from the evidence, that Directed Energy Weapons [+x + tesla-x] had been used on sep 11, 2001, to disintegrate the Twin Towers [and possibly also WTC7 ++]. A popular distractionOP is also the passengerFAKE vs. twintowerSIM -pseudo-competition/half-distraction-Op , in the manipulative version of simonShack-Infiltrator and "Cartoonist" hoi.polloi aka Max Konrardy and co. Watch september clues http://www.youtube.com/results... and 2001 a fake odyssey http://www.youtube.com/results..., to experience the real time... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010 from Bookmarklet
PS: for real 9/11 passenger research, please check out http://911review.org/Sept11W... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
please check out also http://911review.org/brad... MEDIA PUBLISHED FAKE PASSENGER LISTS FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11. By Gerard Holmgren Copyright. May 16, 2004 - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
September Clues is full of falsehoods. A lot I used to believe turned out to be false. http://youtube.com/yougenedebs for the real skinny., - Rosalee Grable
i prefer to recommend the first 6 sepclues-chapters or so incl. the general essence of ch1/2... i do'nt care about looped back helicopters which isn't evidence for tv fakery anyway but genre'd in my book into potential video fakery ; i also recommend '2001' for the overall picture which is more essential than SepClues together. thx to some dilletance and ignorance of jim fetzer and... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
yougendebs is okay too, though he chickens out on application/FCS/geospatial [self-presentation-] references ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
http://911videomashupstop50.blogspot.com/ [archive-blog] ... 911 Octopus - The Up and Up ...911stealth3 ...sidlittle ... DoubleK aka DoubleK 2000 - Fake TV - No Plane Hit The WTC .... DoubleK - TV Fakery IS FAKE! - [Part 1] ...Soundboy72's Big Takeover http://www.youtube.com/watch... .... Foxtrottmeikl1 - 2nd hit TV FAKERY impossible flight... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
it's getting more irritating and bizarre. SimonShack, obviously stronger coOpted by hoi.polloi [and/or others?], apparently added now also Sibel Edmonds [who cares] and Aaron Russo into his SIM-'suspect' -list: http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality... What's your goal, simon, you wanna beat the AR/MR endgame and that's it? ;- ps: meanwhile killtown... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Ewing "discrepancy videos" were the poisoned root of the TV Fakery Hangout. Different footage was taken from different buildings, making some buildings seem "out of place" compared to others. This was supposed to show "fakery" instead of Parallax. Parallax is real. "TV Fakery "Discrepancies" are false and fake and led folks down a toxic rabbithole. - Rosalee Grable
nope that was the only real PR ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
actually you have to lay out, where parallax took place, since you mingle up too many different points into one conclusion. Hey then again, Jim Fetzer also never cared about Staticagenda ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
false fake tv fakery fakerism was pioneered by "NICO>" The WORST foul lying wrong conclusions were first "established" by NICO's "PR" lying agenda to discredit WESCAM research. Simon Shack just took Nico's falsehoods a little farther. YougeneDebs youtube Parallax 4U shows what is real. - Rosalee Grable
I disagree, YougeneDeds indirectly proves, that instead of cameramen, GPS points had been used for the tv fraud. - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
The only "TV Fraud" is TV Fakery Fakers imagining moving bridges etc. - Rosalee Grable
i never pushed the moving bridges. try keyword search. Merging tv- and video fakery elements in unscientific way was Fetzer Fanclub Sloppery. - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
http://www.youtube.com/user... yougenedebs is extremely precice, and unconnected to Fetzer, me, or anybody else. He is simply right. Nico's "TV Fakery": was a false, fake smear against No Planes and WESCAM - Rosalee Grable
I absolutely respect YougeneDebs' work, though he never gave a conclusion, why his visual work completely backs up my argument, that a military application, most likely related to Future Combat System, was used with multiple geospatial GPS points, to fake the second hit [which is the only definition of tv fakery i ever accepted and not yours or Fetzer's gibberish, neither ongoing video... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
The original definition of "noPlanes" still only refers to physical evidence. Once again you mingling up things in unscientific ways. - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
physical evidence - real planes don't fly through buildings. This is scientific. - Rosalee Grable
Flight simulator used gps coordinates to make "planes" to add to pre-planned footage. - Rosalee Grable
it is unscientific from a media scientific point, to still confuse tv fabrications with logical physical evidence. Your hegelian dialectic is a disaster. And since Flight simulators are not as flexible as a geospatial warez, it doesnt make sense they had been used live for 9/11 at all. I prefer the punching ball thesis with FCS. Camera spots had been GPS-video mirrored [or even EGNOsed/... more... - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
All the evidence of a "TV Fakery Platform" has fallen apart and/or been used as an excuse for calling real things fake. - Rosalee Grable
Nope, it was pushed onto a different avenue, where i agree with you, which stalled the facts around DEW+ x/Tesla weaponry and therefore mostly attracted apolitical, faceless geeks, half spookers, ignorants and worse. I furthermore never was part of the hyperfake-IS-all gang, but educated for the future about VR, MR and AR. I reject the current talking points of Shack and co. and have nothing to do with this. - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
"it is unscientific from a media scientific point, to still confuse tv fabrications with logical physical evidence. " TV fabrications *are physical evidence. - Marg Uerite
Depends how u define "physical" and 'hardware'. I distinguish furthermore between product and producer. I think i am more detailed than the general media science gibber ; - ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
Well, people with a functioning brain wouldn't have any trouble understanding what Nico is saying (most of the time that is!) - heavyplastic
jeneane sessum
I remember when Linksys was a good and helpful company. now, they want to charge you $40 to answer a question? FTW.
Acronym fail? - Louis Gray
*giggle* - Anika
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Actually, back in the day that meant "fuck the world". - Spidra Webster
they were good before Cisco got to them....i'm not sure who I would buy from now in networking equipment. I've heard good things about Buffalo. Netgear not so great, D-Link is iffy, and Belkin....pfffft. The old linksys stuff is amazing. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
George says you are all sick for being on at 3 in the morning answering router questions. - jeneane sessum
George is jealous of your fan base. - Louis Gray
ok so i'm sucking our neighbor's wifi and i have to connect through a VPN on monday, which ain't gonna work w/ 3 bars. So do we buy another Linksys? Or pay them $39.99 to answer a question and try to get this one working? - jeneane sessum
Louis, stop slaying me.!. - jeneane sessum
Did i mention they stuck a q-tip all the way up my right sinus today? THAT was as fun as linksys technical support. - jeneane sessum
I saw that on your Tweet stream. I didn't want to pick on you twice in one night. :) - Louis Gray
LOL. pick. heehee. - jeneane sessum
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