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my comments about @scobleizer insulting 70 startups - http://www.seesmic.com/video...
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I agree. In no way am I trying to rip on Scoble, I just agree that it is difficult to launch a startup and that you can't just group a bunch together and say they suck. Especially when you are Robert Scoble. Tons of people read what he says and just believe it's true without actually checking. Not that he is wrong all the time. but in this instance, what he says goes a long way and can hurt the companies that are actually good. Maybe I'm off base here, just my two cents as well. :)
- Niall Connellan
I think Robert made a big mistake here. He should not have done this. Judging startups that have not even launched yet by their websites in one minute... come on!
- Loic Le Meur
I don't get it -- if their websites suck (in Scoble's opinion) why shouldn't he say so. (And I have been through it Loic, many times.) People said my websites sucked, sometimes they were right, and sometimes not, but what the fuck, people have opinions, that's just the way it goes. In your world everyone hides what they think, I'd rather live in a world where people are expected to say what they think. We'd solve problems faster. Esp startups who have websites that suck. Maybe they'll fix them and succeed.
- Dave Winer
And Loic, btw, Scoble worked for my startup. Just FYI.
- Dave Winer
hey Dave, yes, people have the right to say startups suck before they even launched and by spending a minute on their website, sure. I also have the right to say my friend Scoble sucks for saying that, right?
- Loic Le Meur
I love your face in the thumbnail for this video, Loic!
- Zach Landes
From what I gather, Scoble was saying the websites suck, not that the actual startups are bad, wasn't he?
- Derrick Kwa
here is the real truth: Opinion never caused a startup to fail. Let Robert say what he will. Let others say what they want. I hope those startups at DEMO bust ass and succeed through effort. I hope the startups at TC50 do the same. Those that allow the stones to break the glass houses deserve to fail epically.
- Micah Baldwin
you are wrong Scoble said they suck, not only the websites: "I just visited every one of these companies. Boy do they almost all suck (at least their Web sites and if their sites suck, I can’t believe their products are going to do much better)" from http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Loic Le Meur
Loic: I know you're French, but read that again, now read it again, but slower. It implies that I visited the sites, and that the sites suck. I then infer that if your Website sucks, it might infer that your product sucks, but I don't quite cross that line. I'm going to answer you next. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Agree with Zach about the pic, Loic. It's priceless!
- Michelle Trent
Robert, what got me started is this shortcut you made "I can’t believe their products are going to do much better". How can you judge a product not even launched by a crappy website? WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT A COMPANY WEBSITE anyway? I don't even have one for Seesmic. In fact, we're building one, I will ask your advice.
- Loic Le Meur
Loic: my point is that first impressions matter. A lot. My first impression of Seesmic still stands today. My first impression was seeing this really cool conversational video site that was different from any other I had seen previously. Now THAT was a launch. These? Well, OK, let's rejudge them on Friday. See ya then!
- Robert Scoble
Wow, this is getting crazy, I think that people need to understand that everyone comes from a different perspective, Robert Scoble didn't understand the effect this would have on everyone because he has never actually been an entrepreneur. It is not his fault that he has different life experiences than others because everyone takes a different life path and Robert's is as a blogger.
- Andrew Fielding
Loic, everyone cares about a startup's website. It's the first thing most people see when checking out a new product & it has a huge impact on the visitors attitude & vision for what the startup will be - surely you don't disagree with that?
- Zee.
By the way, Kevin Rose, founder of Digg, in a separate post here on FriendFeed, said the same thing that these sites really sucked. So did Andrew Baron, founder of Rocketboom. I'm not alone here.
- Robert Scoble
The fact is Robert made a statement about the quality of the landing pages of these soon to launch products and thought most of them sucked - and frankly I agree. Where he screwed up was he then implied that their actual products/companies sucked too and that's where the uproar lies..it's as simple as that. If Robert was writing for TIME Magazine, this story would be have been reviewed by a half a dozen people before going to publication & that critical error would have been pointed out....
- Zee.
however this is his blog and in the tech/web industry carries almost as much weight at a TIME magazine article and so it's understandable why so many people are pissed off.
- Zee.
Robert, the more you comment, the more I disagree. Nobody gives a shit about a company website. Does Friendfeed have a company website? here is my video comment with more about this http://seesmic.com/video...
- Loic Le Meur
Zee: if I worked at Time the story would have gotten killed because their editors don't care about startups. Oh, and if it were run it would be in four weeks in a back of the magazine where it wouldn't have gotten noticed anyway. But, you are right, it would have been fact checked and edited and all that. That's what happens to my FastCompany magazine column.
- Robert Scoble
Friendfeed does have a company website Loic & it actually looks pretty damn inviting.
- Zee.
Robert thanks for the compliments on Seesmic, really, but this is not a company site, it is our product, that is the whole difference. The startups you are talking about have not even started yet
- Loic Le Meur
Loic: I think we're talking past each other. Let's remeet on Friday and then we'll compare the actual website and product (if they are different -- I don't think they are. Unless you think that Zoho is different from the spreadsheet inside).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, deal.
- Loic Le Meur
Nice to stand-up for the lil' ones trying to be "the little engines that could". Until Scoble comes up with a brand new idea and forks his own dime down for the start-up...then @loiclemeur it appears we've all been *had* by @scobleizer. Scoble just needed another article. plain and simple. yet it's the good fight to stand-up and help the little ones.
- Jes Tu
I think scoble's post will make me and others put more effort into out sites. It's a positive influence on the web. Needed to be said.
- Andrew Warner
Not continuing the discussion Loic?
- Zee.
Loic, I appreciate you standing up for these start-ups here, and I agree with you...being in the middle of the whole startup thing myself, I've found myself to be a real believer in 'get something out there' -- even if its not perfect, polished, and with all that marketing jazz around...I think even Scoble deep down agrees with that
- Michael Broukhim
And before you guys start insisting that sartups can't look any better before they launch, checkout how causecast.org setup their landing page. Quick and easy to create, but it's also a good representaion of the company.
- Andrew Warner
Jes Tu: in my career I have worked at four startups and a fifth small company. I've put my own sweat into these things, which, for me, IS money.
- Robert Scoble
Loic: would you allow a site you were about to launch look like some of these sites?
- Andrew Warner
Michael, surely if you were going to go & spend $18000!!! on a product launch at DEMO. And you knew that your company was going to be mentioned before the actual event...you would create a really well designed intriguing, inviting, impressive landing page which made potential journalists & bloggers think "woah, this look interesting & impressive...i'll look out for these guys".
- Zee.
i gotta say, i'm pissed off Loic has just jacked the debate & discussion...what happened to listening to your community Loic?
- Zee.
Zee: I think there's something to that...I think it's a stretch to extrapolate from suboptimal PR strategies to products and the companies behind them 'sucking' ...there's limited time/$ and a lot of things to do...
- Michael Broukhim
I think its inevitable that we judge a product by the company website - first impressions. In this case -the products haven't even launched yet. If they haven't launched yet, there is nothing for the website to do - they are just place holders at the moment. Will Scoble say they are great if the real website do some utterly neat AJAX? And maybe do some neat SAAS tricks as well? Both Loic and Scoble have valid points.
- Roberto Bonini
@Scoble “Loic: I know you're French, [. . .]” OK: that was offensively condescending. There is no grammar ambiguity in what you wrote, and you did cross that line. Cultural hint: apologies would be welcome.
- Bertil Hatt
Loic: I would love to know how the meeting went between you and Robert?
- Thomas Cook
" I did not really appreciate Scoble's comment about you being a French" I had missed this one but I know Robert this one is clearly a joke. Where is it? On this page?
- Loic Le Meur
What was your First Computer? - http://geeks.pirillo.com/xn...
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IBM PS2 with a 30MB disk and 2MB of RAM
- Stephen Pierzchala
Commodore 64 right after the 5.25 floppy drive came out, never had the cassette drive
- Jeff Quinton
PC/XT clone. Two floppy drives, no hard disk, 640KB RAM.
- Morton Fox
Commodore 64 and a dot matrix printer. That's right. No floppy and no cassette drive. Everything I did I had to program in BASIC, print out, and then type it all in again when I wanted to do it again. That lasted for about three months before I came home from school one random day to find a 1541 and a copy of Zork II waiting for me. My parents rocked.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I had the 1541, the monitor and the C-64 together
- Jeff Quinton
via school I first used and programmed a Commodore PET at school to print out bad words. First home computer was an Atari 400 with an awesome membrane keyboard.
- Shawn McCollum
Commodore VIC-20. With a cassette drive. Bought with my own money back in 1983, when I was 13. "Press PLAY on tape..."
- Joey Gibson
Amiga 500 with two floppy drives and an internal clock. Previously used a friend's C-64
- Nathan Howell
Commodore VIC-20. Got it for Christmas in 1981. Added the cassette drive later.
- Michael Hocter
VIC-20!
- Kevin Cearns
Apple IIe with dual floppy drive, extended 80 col. card, 128Kb
- mikepk
Apple IIe
- Mo Kargas
1975-era Cray supercomputer. Specs classified still.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Sinclair zx80. We were too poor to afford a TRS-80 at the time ;)
- Elliott Ng
BBC Micro model B with 32Kb of memory
- Timothy Griffin
Atari 400
- Craig Eddy
A Windows 98 PC but dunno the model lol probably had like 128mb ram and 12gb hdd
- Anatolie Diordita
from twhirl
A Timex-Sinclair 1000, that I built myself.
- Slobokan
Commodore VIC-20, with cassette drive and modem. I think it was a 300 baud modem, but might have even been 110 baud.
- DGentry
10 ? "hello world" 20 goto 10
- Phillip Jeffrey
First one I owned was a Memotech MTX512 (64Kb RAM, 4MHz Z80A processor, o/s=CP/M), as seen in Weird Science :)
- Paul Henman
The original IBM PC model 5150
- Bluesun 2600
from twhirl
Apple IIe
- Kevin Bondelli
Tandy TRS-80 Color Computer 2.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Amstrad CPC 6128
- Duncan Riley
Technically my first computer was an Atari 400, but we just used it as a game console and never got the BASIC cartridge nor the tape drive. The first computer I really used was a Commodore 64 with a 1541 floppy drive. 6502-based machines rock!
- Victor Ganata
Sinclair Spectrum ZX80, I think my Mum still has it in the cupboard!
- Sally Church
First one I really used a lot (but it didn't belong to me): a Xerox 860 dedicated word processor with dual 8" floppy drives, a black-on-white, vertical WYSIWYG monitor, and a touchpad cursor controller, back in 1982 at my student job in an office at MIT
- John McCrea
Sinclair ZX81. Eventually upgraded the 1K RAM to a 64K RAM pack, complete with "wobble" (you had to employ blue tac to prevent crashes). Also had a "dot matrix" printer, which worked by setting fire to silver-coated paper. Hi-res graphics were 256x192, but required "fast mode", in which display turned to static whilst calculating. So many happy memories.
- Neil Saunders
A Coleco ADAM was technically my first PC, but quickly moved to an original IBM PC (5150) dual-floppy with AST SixPackPlus bringing main memory to 640K, CGA card and modem, Hays 1200 baud modem.
- Phil G
TRS-80 Model III, with the 16K RAM upgrade and no floppies, just the Radio-Shack cassette recorder. Dancing Demon was one of my favorite apps. Later, I got dual disk drives for Christmas, which I believe costed my Dad $600 or so.
- Paul Salzman
from twhirl
Trash 80 Model 1
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Commodore VIC-20, with cassette deck
- Josh Haley
COSMAC ELF with 2-digit hex display, hex entry keypad, and 256 BYTES of RAM. You guys with the Sinclairs and the Colecos and the Commodores don't know how well you have it. We had to program the ELF from a cardboard box in the middle of the freeway, and wake up before we went to bed.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Apple IIc
- Adam Turetzky
Apple II+
- Alex Scoble
C-64 with summer job money seventh grade
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
IBM PC XT with a whopping 10MB hard drive.
- ~C4Chaos
BESM(Russia) (on transistors!:))
- Igor Poltavskiy
Sinclair Spectrum. Well, it was my brother's, but I used it too...:)
- WorldofHiglet
Apple II+
- Ruchira S. Datta
Acorn Electron, followed by an ancient Commodore 8032SK, then another Electron, then my first PC, a Watford Aries running an NEC V20 processor at about 12MHz with 1Meg RAM, two 5 1/4 inch floppies and a 250Meg MFM Hard Drive..
- Slappy Line
@Sally - well, was it a Sinclair ZX80 or a Sinclair Spectrum??? :-)
- Slappy Line
Commodore Vic-20
- Mark Krynsky
Politics aside: McCain talking about being tortured is just heartbreaking+inspiring. He's an amazing American and human being. McCain/Obama?
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uh sorry jason, you can't really do politics aside on this, being an 'amazing american' doesn't equate to any kind of right to lead on policies. Politically speaking: He's voted with Bush, against renewables, and even support of torture. Don't go there buddy, that's the propaganda trap you're suppose to fall for. Yet, it has no bearing on policy.
- David Lynch
agree with Jason - and it has everything to do with the quality of the person and the ability to lead
- Chris Selland
OH, and you're not falling for propaganda when you wax on about Obama? Who's a good little lemming? You are!
- David Risley
To me, an amazing american is one who let's others live their lives....So by that definition, neither candidate qualifies as an amazing american.
- Chris Rossini
Vincent as usual cuts through the crap - and makes a great point.
- Tony Kanzia
Absolutely admire and appreciate McCain's service to his country. (I come from a family of soldiers.) Doesn't mean I at all agree with half his policies. But I'm equally dubious about Obama's, so I'm an equal opportunity hater, I guess.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
WarMaiden - join with me on my new campaign to vote None of the Above
- Alan Simpson
Why is racism being brought up?
- Angel Smith
@Alan - with you there. @Vincent - I think both sides have gotten equal crap, from each other. I'm going to sit out and hold my breath until we get a parliamentary system and then everyone can have their beloved crazies in the government, but we wont be held hostage to any of them ;)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Why is it that every four years I find myself, once again, having to decide between the least bad of two bad choices?
- Chris Lamprecht
Or we could have a system like France where porn stars, racists and people with mob ties can and do get positions within the government. Let the common man/woman run the government. That's what I say.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
why does anyone care who is an "amazing American"? Why not be concerned with who is an amazing person? an amazing thinker? an amazingly compassionate human being?
- William Harryman
@Jason - are you saying we don't have racists, & mob ties in our government??? Please tell me you're joking.
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
Then again, according to GW's policies John McCain wasn't tortured.
- Alex Scoble
Being tortured, while awful, is not a political qualification for running the country. (Unless you want to start electing Senators from Gitmo.) Policy and the GSD factor is. (Also, my sense of humor wants me to crack that I'd be more impressed if he had evaded capture all President Harrison Ford-style, but I think it's in poor taste to joke about something like that...)
- Archangel ωαřмaiden
You're absolutely right... What other credentials do you really need to run the country besides serving one's country in war? I mean it's not like we are comparing skipping out on your service verses 3 purple hearts... oh look, there's a hippo in this rock city
- Johnny Worthington
Vincent: At least he has credentials.
- David Risley
David... and Bush did what exactly?
- Johnny Worthington
John: News flash: Bush isn't running.
- David Risley
Chiming in to agree, more or less. McCain/Palin will steal this election (it's already a wrap, but please do vote) because they are selling America and Americana, and Americans just eat that stuff up. Touting good, wholesome, conservative, *American* family values and gravy-training 9/11 and wars we've lost and/or gotten run out of...? Maybe we should be separating the issues from the circumstances.
- Julian
Really... wow I am dumb... But you can't talk out of the left side of your mouth saying at least McCain has served his country and out of the right support the Republican's logic that it didn't matter 4 years ago...
- Johnny Worthington
McCain has yet to utter a single word about how he will help middle America or help those in poverty. His tax plan is directly reflective of his propensity to cater to wealthy america. Where is his plan to promote education, exactly what will he do to help the lower middle class who are struggling to make it day by day, how will his actions provide temporary relieve to energy crisis, housing crisis, mortgage crisis? health plan? Stop listening to the puke, and give us facts.
- jcunwired
Take a look at this perspective, from a man that thinks this 'amazing american' does not qualify to become president, BECAUSE of all the talking points that make him an 'amazing american' http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- jcunwired
Jeez, Jody, you didn't even listen to him, did you? Or are you just letting the talking heads do your thinking for you?
- David Risley
My Dad adored McCain. When he was dying, I read 2 of McCain's autobiographies to him. I agree with your comment about him being an amazing American and human being. He's been my senator for a long time as well. Politics aside, I think both McCain and Obama are very interesting people, both with high road thoughts, which I admire. I tend to emphasize character over political promises when I vote. The world changes, the issues change (somewhat). I want the elected official I think has the character to adjust.
- Charlene Kingston
nice try still not voting for him
- adolfo foronda
A little bit of everything...: Silicone Implants for Tattoo BoobsIf you really wanna impress with your tattoo, here's what you gotta do: - http://www.unfabulouz.com/2008...
Mahdi Ebrahimi, Victor Ryden, Slobokan and 3 other people liked this
If you really wanna impress with your tattoo, here's what you gotta do:
- Baard @ Pixum
from Bookmarklet
WTF.
- Eric P
nice
- Noah David Simon
Would this mean that you might get men who are sexually attracted to THEIR OWN ARMS?
- Iain Baker
that's just all kinds of rank
- Toby Graham
Yeah, did not want this.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
this is sick.... do not want this...
- Baard @ Pixum
Uummm......ouch?
- David Risley
@andrewbaron - put your speakers on 11 and kiss my ass http://www.youtube.com/watch... i made mine, you was given yours. word.
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David Ward, Jeff Hoard, sean percival and 6 other people liked this
Definitely the best comment I have seen in a very long time.
- Slobokan
read the vwag run down on the CEO's, i'd still work for JC, just because lines like this
- shayne catrett
when this makes techmeme I will officially pronounce Friendfeed as "jumping the shark"
- Wayne Schulz
Would have gone with http://tinyurl.com/242udc but to each his own.
- Percival
You should have went with this http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Fred Grott
There's a New York ass kickin' for you. Great one, J.
- Frank Roche
Whats all the fighting about again? o_O
- Percival
Love how trustfund baby @andrewbaron is trying to start trouble with someone like me who worked his way up. Go suck your daddy's teet Baron.
Régis Kuckaertz, Christian Leonard Quale, Andy DeSoto and 2 other people liked this
I think he s running out of options to get press
- Fred Grott
We’re Getting Hitched - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Duncan Riley, Eban Crawford, Art Lindsey III and 9 other people liked this
Congrats... and love the video!
- SarahChambers
Awesome video, and again, congratulations. The puppets were great but I was a little distracted by the fabulous Michelle waving around that serious chunk of ice.
- Donna Mugavero
Congratulations!
- Lon Harris
from twhirl
Loren - congratulations to both of you!
- Matt Craven
Congrats funny vid
- Jaimie
That is a very funny video btw....congrats!
- evonne
Congratulations! Love the vid. I'm Robert Scoble... Too funny
- Eban Crawford
loldrivers: The OMG I'm Going To Lay A Brick If This Race Has Any More Competition Cautions 400 - http://community.livejournal.com/loldriv...
These are hilarious. It was a yucky day, and you made me smile. Thanks!
- Barbara B. Nixon
How to Use FeedDemon’s Newspaper Instead of the News Item List - http://nick.typepad.com/blog...
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Bootie cheeks ;) - http://flickr.com/photos...
Danielle, Anna Haro, Vahid۹Online and 49 other people liked this
...isn't anyone gonna ask if that's me? HA
- Mona Nomura
I would ask, but fear it would me awfully "cheeky" of me.
- l0ckergn0me
Well, there is a striking resemblance! :)
- Joe Perrin
Strike one, you can do better than that CP
- Mona Nomura
oh, my...
- edythe
Oh and I don't have any children thank you very much
- Mona Nomura
cute! reminds me of my son... gotta rush out and pinch him! :)
- Jericho
Jericho: I JUST saw your user icon!! CUTE!!!!
- Mona Nomura
I know for a fact that that's mona. ::dux::
- Carlos Ayala
!!
- Bwana ☠
Anyone remember that episode of South Park? ...... Yeah....
- Bwana ☠
??
- AJ Batac
Bwana.. trigger word!!!
- Mona Nomura
lol on the video Bwana :D
- AJ Batac
haha buttface
- Alan Le
triggerword!!! hahahahha
- Mona Nomura
what is stuffed into those cheeks? balloons of coke?
- Nathan Rein
Good....gravy! Those things are huge...
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Dizzy Gillespie relative? http://www.google.com/imgres...
- Susan Beebe
I just spit out my water LOL
- Mona Nomura
hahahahahaham fantastic!
- Rodrigo Amaya
@mona, thx! :D
- Jericho
That baby is epic. I bet it can do the truffle shuffle with its cheeks! Do the truffle shuffle!
- Geoff Schultz
When the baby laughs, the cheeks clap
- Bwana ☠
Ok I made myself laugh with that one
- Bwana ☠
I can imagine the clapping sound in my head hahaha and the laughs sound like toots
- Geoff Schultz
what in the sam's hill is going on in the baby thread?!
- Mona Nomura
It's the Mona effect... quite contagious. :-)
- Mitchell Tsai
Or maybe everyone's just making fun of me since that's my baby picture =( kidding folks!
- Mona Nomura
Hey even if it was you, YOU started it!!!
- Geoff Schultz
this baby's a tuba player in the making.
- imabonehead
the illegimate kid of gary coleman and yoko ono? LOL
- .LAG liked that
Oh mylanta...how did I miss this?!
- Anna Haro
Blame Twitter for your failed relationships - http://twitter.com/login
Jim McCusker, Slobokan, Susan Beebe and 2 other people liked this
'We are recovering from an issue affecting your Twitter relationships. You may see inconsistencies in your timeline or your profile counts as we resolve this.'
- Chris Baskind
from Bookmarklet
I would love to blame @Scobleizer but it was not him! It was @amandachapel and her rouge Twiitter developers friends!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Huh? How does that explain anything? Can we get our friends back? Thanks for posting. I'll be interested to hear what the resolution is.
- Sarah
No. Blame Scoble. That's what Twitter did.
- shelisrael1
I admired Robert for marching himself down there to talk with them about that bit of corporate silliness.
- Chris Baskind
If I know you. Please consider joining me here, I know we tried this before, but Im digging this. - http://groups.google.com/group...
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I applied.
- Frank Roche
Can you see the Comcast truck lurking behind the tree? - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Joshua Rosenstock, Jason Cazier, Slobokan and Andew liked this
LogMeIn offers browser plug-in: control PC or Mac with a Nokia Internet Tablet - http://www.jkontherun.com/2008...
This just changed my life.
- Slobokan
So are we in agreement that Web 2.0 is officially dead. There are no conversations, communities, any of it. It was all bullshit and I told you so. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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I thought social media was your canvas. Or our paintbrush. Damn, which part of your artwork was social media? I forget.
- Omar Gallaga
This holds up from when you first posted it.
- Donna Mugavero
A year ago.
- loren feldman
Hey Candace. I'm sure everything will be fine and that your cousin is in good hands.Is this a trick question?
- Larry Kless
from twhirl
I think you are alone and smart, I think that the Internet is turning more into a one way media, sort of like TV, but with more niches and more people 'broadcasting' or posting as it may be. You are totally on...though I sort of wish the conversation was really true, it is rather obvious it is not, only a few places actually provide for a forum of conversation and when it happens Scoble just decides to block the people who are conversing.
- Andrew Fielding
"Crowds got you Windows" ;)
- petitesphrases
Stats - 5 Death Threats, 3 "Friends" who don't talk to me anymore, 5 new clients.
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I still love ya man.
- Matt Craven
5 Death Threats: how do you like the "tolerance" of the PC crowd? The "Friends" were vaporware anyway. Good news about the new clients. Keep on truckin'.
- William, CPU Media
Thanks
- loren feldman
those numbers sound symmetrical
- Duncan Riley
Death threats? Seriously?
- Steve Spalding
you think you got problems? scoble blocked me here for commenting/liking you posts
- sean percival
Someone who throws out "Death Threats" on the internet needs a serious life.
- Helen Sventitsky
Wait, which one are you again?
- Akiva Moskovitz
If everyone likes you, and all you say and do, chances are you are either a pussy or have been totally whipped. You, my friend, do not fit that image.
- Eban Crawford
Capping the amount you can fill up at the gas station is obnoxious. Why limit me to $50, $75, $100 etc. I already have to enter in my zip code plus all I have to do is use the same card all over again after I max out once. This offers credit card companies zero protection and is a pain in the ass
Charlie Anzman, Mrsth, Anthony Citrano and 14 other people liked this
Why make me do two transactions, one for $75 and a second one for $37.51 instead of just letting me do a single transaction for $112.51? Annoying on the part of gas stations and credit card companies.
- Thomas Hawk
$75 doesn't go very far these days.
- Morton Fox
Weird that just happened to my at a Quick Trip here in StL. The charge was just under $100 but they ran it as two separate charges which makes absolutely no sense.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
sure that's not a measure to prevent hoarding?
- Shawn Duffy
from Alert Thingy
what's the point of the measure if you can just put the gas handle back in, wait for the transaction to end and then just start a brand new one all over again to finish the fill up. Seems like something put in place simply to annoy consumers. Any logical reason behind this whatsoever?
- Thomas Hawk
I agree. I got hit with the $75 cap on our trip to Los Angeles. Seems pretty lame.
- Robert Scoble
That happened to me for the first time the other day! $50 and that's it. Grrrrrr...
- Corie
At my local place, I can circumvent this by paying at the window for a pre-set amount. It sucks when you go with an obscenely high number then have it not be enough.
- Eric Berto
Question for someone smarter than me. Do the CC companies end up making more this way? If they charge the station a set fee per transaction + a %age of the charge, then I'd say they do because there are two potential transactions with the cap. Simply an observation based on a guess...
- Kevin C. Tofel
$112.51? soooooo happy i own a scion right now. but it does seem ridiculous to put caps on the amount you can spend. : (
- carlotta fancypants
Prius == only paying more than $40 to go 350+ miles once when gas was over like $4.50 or something.
- Tad
I agree -- though what the heck are you folks driving that you need $112 in gas??? ;) I feel guilty enough driving an American V8. But it only wants ~$60 at a time at current prices.
- Kevin Hessel
I haven't heard of this. Who is doing this?
- Anthony Citrano
@Thomas Hawk: I beleive it was put in place to limit fraud. What I heard is that when cards are stolen, typically they're first used for gas. But not just one tank of gas...they'll have their friends line up at a pump and load up on one trans. Cap the transaction and you make the bad guy have to either do multiple trans at one station or hit different stations in a short period of time...I agree, they need to raise the limit on the cards...try filling up a 33 gallon tank with a $75 limit! :-(
- Live4Emma (L4S)
I've not heard of the capping here in Louisiana. But I have seen gas stations completely stop taking credit cards as they have to pay a percentage fee to the credit card processing company. Maybe the cap is due to a contract price between the gas station and the processor and if they allow the customer to go over the cap amount, the station has to pay a different processing rate to the processor.
- Herschel
I stopped @ $80 and it didn't fill the tank. 8 hours later the same station dropped it 10 cents. $#%&*@!!!!
- Larry Kless
from twhirl
Happened to me recently too, $50 limit was only half a tank, sigh. 9 years ago when I first came to the US, gas was $1.15 not $4.05.
- Sally Church
Yep, unfortunately with four kids and two dogs we need a big car. Not cheap for sure. I think Kevin's right, maybe the CC companies profit off of our inconvenience. It wouldn't surprise me. I just wish I could figure out the logic behind it. Seems like a super dumb thing.
- Thomas Hawk
The limit USED to be $35, those of us who used to have Pickup Trucks would run into this back in the late 1990's (dual 18 gallon tanks). I believe as someone said above this is an anti-fraud measure.
- Adam Turetzky
that is really bad. someone needs to do something. a grass roots non partisan protest. thank god the Chevy Volt is a year away. but people need to get by for the next few years. we will remember this as a nightmare. but we will survive this too
- Noah David Simon
but how does this actually protect anyone from fraud if I can just do a second transaction. The limit is per transaction. It seems like it just adds to the annoyance for consumers already annoyed that they are having to pay more than $50 or $75 to fill up their tank in the first place.
- Thomas Hawk
CC transactions at the pump have always been capped (usually $50 or $75), we are just noticing them now because of the high price of fuel. It's due to the CC companies and the fact that a transaction for gas is an "Authorized sale without a final bill of sale" meaning that they auth it not knowing how much it will end up being (blank check). The CC co's put the limit to protect against...
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- cmiper
@Thomas - who is doing this? Your card issuer or just certain gas stations?
- Anthony Citrano
I haven't heard of this, something new or just a west coast thing?
- jcunwired
@Jody, we have encountered this in the Midwest, too.
- asiriusgeek
I think cmiper's right. The question is though why not raise the limit to $100 or $150 or $200 or something with higher gas prices. My own guess is that Kevin's right and that they make more money this way and would rather inconvenience a ton of people and profit off it than change their limits. Unfortunately because the CC companies collude on this there is really not much that can be done. Still annoying though.
- Thomas Hawk
Mastercard = $75, Visa and Discover = $50, if you chose "pay inside" at the pump and go in to pay with your credit card, you are not capped. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busines... (I knew I read it somewhere recently ;-) )
- cmiper
It's common in the North East too
- Sally Church
My understanding is that it is capped because credit card companies limit their liability for fraud on a per-transaction basis. I don't think they make any more money this way; the merchant fees are a percentage of the transaction, and .02*100 == .02*(50+50)
- Jeremy Brooks
Amex is $75 too it seems. Going inside and dealing with a real live person is probably even worse than doing two transactions though ;)
- Thomas Hawk
So, no one knows who is doing this? I wrote an article in last month's Money Magazine about credit card / ID policies and this would make a good follow-up.
- Anthony Citrano
@cmiper thanks, at least someone's listening! ;) [is this thing on? *tap* *tap*] that AP article helped me understand the root of the policy, at least.
- Anthony Citrano
Oops, saw your post late Anthony. ;-)
- cmiper
If you car takes more than 100$ in gas it might be time for a smaller car
- Ray Slakinski
from twhirl
typical case of punishing to normal user instead of the offender. Moreover, the offender (aka the guy who steal your card), will have more motivation to swipe your card twice or thrice before he throws it. So this doesn't in any way impact liability for the credit card companies
- Shivanand Velmurugan
from twhirl
No Doubt! Annoying as all get up and different for me at Shell than at Chevron. Man! I use premium, have an 18.1 gallon tank. $75 doesn't cut it in the least!
- Greer Trice
I couldn't agree more. I also hate that the pending charge always shows up as 1 dollar until the transaction clears. What a terrible and annoying way of doing business.
- Tim Harding
Cheese and crackers Thomas! $112.51. I'm having a fit over $75
- Yolanda
Twitter Chokes Unauthenticated API Requests By IP, Sites Gasp for Air - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
simonpure, Mike Fruchter, Roney Smith and 12 other people liked this
Jesse Stay tells me Tweetip is down for the count now as well. http://tweetip.tumblr.com/
- Louis Gray
Great analysis! I think this is pointing to a future business model for Twitter. This prompted me to post an item about Twitters's business model and the future for the Twitter ecosystem (http://ekive.blogspot.com/2008...)
- Mark Scrimshire
Another from the catalog. Over a year ago. - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Slobokan, Ron Emrick and Michelle Feldman liked this
couldn't be more right... really.. think about it... admit it...
- Ron Emrick
Andrew Baron says Compete matters. Well Andy let's compete. - http://siteanalytics.compete.com/rocketb...
Slobokan, Andrew Jecklin and Nick Martin liked this
this is a more impressive stat - http://siteanalytics.compete.com/rocketb...
- Nick Martin
Copyfight: Mahalo Daily suspended from YouTube - http://valleywag.com/5025952...
tomit, Alan Root, Patrick McCarron and 24 other people liked this
yes, it's true. Viacom filed multiple bogus DMCA claims against us for an event that they invited us to. This has cost us money and killed our Youtube account for two days and counting. horrible
- Jason Calacanis
from Bookmarklet
That sucks!
- Matt Baron
And you are seeking compensation?
- Brian Sullivan
I read that Mahalo isnt suing and I applaud that. Calacanis always seemed fairly stand up and not suing is the stand up thing to do. Just keep the we want sushi attitude and it will do you more good.
- Cody Heitschmidt
apparently it's going to be sushi compensation. heh.
- Ben Hwang
from Alert Thingy
Wow two days down? Thats a lot of sushi. Have them spring for Katsu-ya at Studio City
- Jose Alvarez
Sorry to hear it. I've written about this business before. YouTube's accepting DMCA claims without investigation is just wrong.
- James Joyner
sue 'em Jason:)
- Grant
Maybe YouTube can make up for the error by Featuring Mahalo Daily on their Front page for a couple days
- Jeff Hoard
from twhirl
the dummies at youtube just hit suspend, suspend, suspend w/o asking questions or doing a little investigation. a bit like facebook now that I think of it....right scoble?
- Brian Ries
Jason, I take that you've filed a DMCA counter claim
- Duncan Riley
Good luck, Jason.
- Chris Baskind
Wow. And I thought it was exciting when we moms got suspended for our breast feeding montage....
- Erin @queenofspain
Can't wait to read the next revision of the Viacom page on Mahalo. ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
Jason, just make a custom channel at www.magnify.net and scrap Youtube.
- Jim Kukral
from twhirl
Breaking: Jason Calacanis quits digital video. Will now only show film via Drive-in theater :)
- Andrew Smith
"filed multiple bogus DMCA claims" - the key word here is bogus - fr what I under stand this implies that Viacoms Legal Consul (A) does not know DMCA laws (b), did not do a due dilgence revie before filing DMCA. Did they not contacting you with a C&D prior to the DMCA notice ? Would you care to pub the C&D at least? The :term "bogus" is certainly a funny word. Jason, you should counter sue i, because they after all invited you to the event and you had permissions to record and distribute the content correct
- Peter Dawson
now you know how I feel about twitter. scum always win unless you fight back
- Noah David Simon
Jason - we spoke earlier today, contact me if you'd like this written about (tyler has my contact info)
- Andrew Feinberg
so mainstream media doesn't want coverage? Fine. Stop reporting their news.
- Frank Jonen
from Alert Thingy
Cat People Get It - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Slobokan liked this
Great video! hahaha.
- Slobokan
Obama's Latest "Shift" - http://help.lockergnome.com/general...
Slobokan, Oldengrey (Jay) and Sean Davis liked this
I wish I could have a "don't like" button. Go stuff yourself in a locker.
- Stephan Miller
He's whatever you want him to be. Then hit the like button.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
dislike this
- Sudha Jamthe
Eh, it's from the forums. :)
- l0ckergn0me
Had enough with the drama, time to start making fun of people again. Boycott away motherfuckers.
Alexandru Savu, Wayne Sutton, Jim Dye and 15 other people liked this
bring it on!
- Jonathan Greene
from Alert Thingy
finally!
- Franz Kratochvil
from Alert Thingy
YES!
- Matt Craven
Huh, what drama?
- Daniel Spisak
from twhirl
bwhahaha retweet @davidjacobs: @jasoncalicanis: you can't go to Blogher, you're not a blogger anymore ;) better go to Emailher
Richard pancakhaus Walker, Svetlana Gladkova, Michael W. May and 10 other people liked this
LOL, too funny!
- Dread Pirate PJ
from NoiseRiver
I'm still laughing
- Erin @queenofspain
Dude. I totally made that joke on your ustream chat last night. :-P
- Ken Sheppardson
In chat Ken? CHat was flying by so fast...
- Erin @queenofspain
Yeah, I know. 'Twas wild and crazy. No bigee. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
That show? That was TAME Ken! TAME!
- Erin @queenofspain
Emailher? Is the trademark registered already? ;)
- Svetlana Gladkova
@Digidave ethanol is a stupid idea. We are going to starve people because of that idea.
Mahdi Ebrahimi, asiriusgeek, Christian Anderson and 16 other people liked this
starve people?
- sedgewick
Really liking the fact that every one of these comments on twitter is spawning a whole new thread/convo on FF. ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Agree Robert. Here's some data points on the ethanol debate: http://is.gd/SA7
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Agreed ethanol is stupid, using land to create fuel at the expense of food. Perhaps algae might be an alternative to that though
- Mo Kargas
When there is starvation and hunger in the world, it is utterly moronic to use a food source as a fuel source. In the hierarchy of needs, eating comes before automobiles ANY day.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Cyanobacteria as fuel/energy producer holds some promise. http://www.utexas.edu/news...
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Any alternative will prompt problems...Detrimental effects of algae include damaged oceanic ecosystem, increased waste after oil sequestration, production logistics.
- Andy Angelos
DARPA should be working on that project, will see if any alternative fuel cars show up this year at the Urban Challenge.
- MedicalQuack
Daniel Quinn would argue that the source issue is rampant human population growth- which sources from ever-expanding food supply
- sedgewick
I mention algae because it will grow on already polluted watersystems, therefore gaining use from otherwise untenable areas.
- Mo Kargas
There's a problem with everything. Ulltimately, we need to conserve and not just look for a quick fix.
- Francine Hardaway
from twhirl
Agreed Francine, though I think the most immediate step and perhaps quick fix itself is reducing consumption across the board
- Mo Kargas
@Andy I agree with you. Every solution has it's own set of problems. Believing that there's a perfect solution is just foolish. It's just about choosing which set of problems we could live with. I doubt algae can be fully contained within a desert.Large changes anywhere and for anything will prompt consequences, always.
- Chris Chua
from fftogo
they can grow algae that eats co2
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
I just wish we'd do something - drill in Alaska, open up more Nuclear plants, whatever it takes, but something is better than nothing like we've had thus far. (note, I voted for him, unfortunately) George Bush has had a tremendous opportunity to get a deal for oil from Iraq - why haven't we seen anything there? *something* needs to be done, I don't care what.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I actually agree, which is why I find it weird that we have a government mandate.
- David Cohn
Eric - Doesn't all algae consume CO^2?
- Andy Angelos
I agree with mokargas. I wish more of the debate was how we can use less energy regardless of it source. No matter what we're pumping into our Hummers, that energy may have been put to better use elsewhere, ethanol being one of the more egregious examples
- Brian Pharris
@andy I left out the word emissions - like from smoke stacks - I'm having a hard time typing tonight :)
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
People are already starving because of this stupid idea.
- Helen Sventitsky
Ethanol is a good idea, but not having it derived from corn. There are other sources that can be used to generate ethanol.
- imabonehead
ima: growing stuff means taking resources away from food production.
- Robert Scoble
@robert - except when that "stuff" is single cell algae & bacteria. +1 if they consume CO2 & can grow without O2.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
As a side note, here's a table of how green biofuels are - http://is.gd/jvH
- imabonehead
Not necessarily, Robert. It's not a straight zero sum game. There are certainly sources for organic material that could be used for cellulosic ethanol production without detracting from food production. But that conversation's over here http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'll restate what many here have said, ethanol is a pretty good idea, just not from corn. There are other, safer ways around it. But, better yet is have other renewable energy sources like the wind and solar.
- Danilo da Silva
First generation - especially corn based - ethanol is stupid just like the first generation of most new technologies are impractical. Ethanol has a future, probably involving a lot of genetic modifications in both the plant and the algae/fungus/nanobots/whatever to convert it to energy. Also, the hippies aren't wrong, hemp is much more efficient than other plants to create energy. This should be a different debate from the one around drugs.
- Nicholas Molnar
There's a few startups are working towards alternative energy led byShai Agassi (SAP), Elon Musk (co-founder of PayPal and Tesla Motors), and Vinod Khosla (co-founder of Sun Microsystems and venture capitalist). Source: http://is.gd/SCX
- imabonehead
Ethanol's OK, it's corn which is the problem. Long term, algae for E85/E95 is very promising.
- James
New Yorker mag depicts Obama in turban, afro-wearing Michelle with an AK-47 - http://www.politico.com/blogs...
Anna Haro, Barak B, Justin Yost and 9 other people liked this
Just. Wow. I suppose the point is "Here's the caricature of Obama boing foisted by the Right." But there's no indication of that on the cover. Check the burning American flag in the fireplace.
- Chris Baskind
from Bookmarklet
Holy shit! Are they for real? How the hell can they publish something like that?
- Adam Turetzky
it is satire.
- edythe
Yeah... I get it. And I get it. Not cool.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I never really saw The New Yorker as the print equivalent of Saturday Night Live.
- Adam Turetzky
humhhh...
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Wow! This is really confusing, isn't it?
- Oldengrey (Jay)
judging by some of the responses in this thread, it's probably what's to be expected by the general public's knee-jerky-ness. it's obviously critiquing the way many in the media have depicted obama and his wife. despite the superficial ambiguity, i don't think it's necessarily something to get up in arms about.
- Cee Bee
I wonder if Obama is pimping himself? Would New Yorker do this satire without Obama's approval? It is just to libel!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I think the general publics reaction IS the problem and will be "Yeah, exactly, and why isn't he and his wife in Gitmo already, only Americans can be president". Which doesn't seem to be something The New Yorker would like to reinforce? I can already anticipate how many times I'm going to get this cover e-mailed to me by the same people who send the racist black and jew e-mails that end with the pledge of allegiance and god bless America.
- Adam Turetzky
WOW
- Mona Nomura
well it's a great attention grabbing cover, to say the least
- Mona Nomura
Yes - *we* get it. But this is troubling to me because most people in the US do not get satire. Then again most of them don't get the New Yorker (literally nor figuratively.)
- Anthony Citrano
I'm sure you're right, Aaron (and led with that in my open). But I'm betting the satirical nature of the caricatures will be appreciated by most. :-)
- Chris Baskind
from NoiseRiver
Aaron, I would guess the same. But still!?! Actually, I guess The New Yorker does expect it's readers to actually read the articles.
- Adam Turetzky
Anthony: Satire or not, there is something called tact
- Mona Nomura
adam, i agree with your comment, but why should intelligent & informed people feel as if they have to bow down and cater to the ignorance & bigoted views of those who would see it that way? "they" get upset and label people arrogant and condescending, but the social divide speaks for itself. it's sad that the views of those who would see it in the way you mentioned outnumbers those who do take their time to get the full story.
- Cee Bee
is it meant as satire yes, but then again this is such a sensitive area that I think it is a bit irresponsible to play into the confusion people have about this man. hate his views if you must - but at least let the conversation be about his politicis ----- not myths about him that MSM reinforces in the minds of those who don't get satire. Igor - the suggestion that the Obamas had anything to do with this is crazy.
- R. Ferguson
This cover is so obviously a send-up of the xenophobia and concerted "Otherism" of the Right in re: Obama. I can't imagine its readers will mistake this as the editorial position of the New Yorker. As for the general public, is the New Yorker (circulation ~1 million) even on their radar?
- Ayşe E.
Well there ARE about 2million people in Manhattan... just saying
- Mona Nomura
When I spent time in the East Coast (Manhattan, Boston, and D.C.) I couldn't believe a lot of terminology and 'satire' that were acceptable. At first I thought it was me (I'm too sensitive, stuck in the "California bubble" etc) but now I'm not quite sure
- Mona Nomura
This is news, so it will reach well beyond New Yorker's circulation. I bet it gets copied, scanned, and passed around, too. Sans the irony.
- Chris Baskind
hopefully it'll be softcopies...
- Mona Nomura
I'm a subscriber... this cover looks like it was done by Blitt, who I've noticed has a tendency to do off-color things like this... The New Yorker is generally strongly liberal, so I find this cover a bit confusing... It's obviously satire since it's so over the top. One facetious reaction I have toward it is that the cover was made to bait the racist dummies out there into buying it, thinking that The New Yorker has come over to the dark side. I think it is a failed bit of illustration. It isn't helpful.
- Kamilah Gill
I love satire because of its' high-minded purpose. However, I'm always a little nervous when it meets some very low-minded people, but as stated earlier, I can't control them. Personally, I really like this cover. I think it executed its' purpose beautifully. Chris B. reminded us of the flag burning in the fireplace, and for me, that sealed the deal. If the flag were waving in its' rightful manner or not in the image at all, I would feel VERY different about the cover.
- Anna Haro
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