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I am a twitter ego whore, and besides I only get to celebrate my birthday once per year. My 40th birthday? Once in a lifetime. :-)
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It's your 40th? :) HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! My 40th is coming up in February. *sob*
- Tad
happy bday!
- Corie
Was my Birthday today too ,... Happy Bday David
- johnpiercy
from twhirl
have a happy one
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
happy birthday...dang, was everyone born today, but me?
- Admiral Anika
Happy 40th! :)
- Ayşe E.
Happy Birthday David
- Brian Shields
I heard Republicans are against wealth redistribution. OK, that's fair. How about all Republicans sign an agreement not to take any unemployment checks after they get laid off? Then I'll believe them. I bet if that were to happen at least 85% would join Democratic party. Especially now.
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Also, no driving on interstate highways! Don't send your kids to public schools either, etc etc etc
- Tad
Only flaw with that argument: employers pay for unemployment insurance not the employees. It's not the redistribution of anyone's wealth other than the company's.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I believe that many Republicans take that position due to the party's platform, not because of their own personal beliefs. That being said - what does John McCain's plan to buy up bad mortgages count as?
- Shawn Farner
They mean the wealth (re)distribution should not be reversed from the present direction of "taking from the poor and giving more to the rich."
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Capitalism *is* wealth redistribution.
- Steve Lowe
I've been laid off a couple times in my life and spent months looking. But I never took any unemployment from the government.
- Sam J. West IV
@Tina The myth that your employer pays your unemployment insurance is the same as the myth that your employer pays half of your Social Security tax. It's all part of your compensation. Your employer just hands it over to the government on your behalf. It's still you making the payment.
- Chris Johnson
Wealth Redistribution is easy to define. It's when Person A gets together with Person B and they decide to give Person C money by taking it forcibly from Person D against their will.
- Sam J. West IV
Again: unemployment is paid for BY YOUR EMPLOYERS. It is NOT a government handout, and if you DON'T take it then who do you think keeps the money? Do you think the government gives it back to the companies that paid in?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Chris: by that argument, aren't you shortchanging *yourself* (rather than "not taking a government handout") when you choose to not accept unemployment?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
+1 tina
- Kyle Lacy
You are shortchanging yourself if you don't take unemployment.
- Alex Scoble
Twenty years ago I started a company after being layed off and using unemployment to keep me going.
- Michael Krigsman
@Chris White, we are in danger of finding out.
- Morgan Warstler
Robert, wealth redistribution and unemployment insurance are two totally separate things. Please read and educate yourself as to what conservatives stand for. You don't have to agree, but please understand.
- ChiliMac
I don't understand the connection, sorry. It's like someone saying, "You don't believe in one thing, so you shouldn't do this other, completely different thing." Or maybe not saying it, but posting it on FF. Water off a duck's back keeps the doctor away, that sort of thing.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
@Tina Yes, you are. You're forgoing an insurance benefit for which you paid the premium. Scoble's thought experiment would only make sense if you could choose to opt out of the unemployment insurance system altogether, neither paying the premium nor getting unemployment benefits.
- Chris Johnson
Chris White: You made me laugh! "And Trix are for kids".
- Melanie Reed
Our society is so abnormal that the normal man never dreams of having the normal occupation of looking after his own property. When he chooses a trade, he chooses one of the ten thousand trades that involve looking after other people's property. - G. K. Chesterton
- Melanie Reed
This was a tiresome argument when the likes of Tibor Machan, Ayn Rand and other libertarians beat it to death in the 60s and 70s. But yes, I'd gladly opt out of government benefits if the proportionate cost of those benefits was deducted from my tax burden. Social security, unemployment, medicare, medicaid...bring it on.
- Rob Sterling
Actually Robert, every time I've been unemployed, I've refused unemployment checks. Never once collected a government cash stipend. And yes, I've qualified for it more than once.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
I'm not a republican, but I'm against wealth redistribution. And I will take any benefits that I've already been forced to pay for via taxes.
- Kingsley Joseph
So the Republicans need a Opt-Out bill.
- CW™
like any of them would need an unemployment check to begin with .. stupid argument
- Steven Hodson
If the employer is paying for unemployment, why'd I only get $40 for 4 days of temporary layoff in 1996? The reason cited was that I hadn't been working long enough. Sounds like I had to contribute something to get something, and being a college student / grad student didn't count...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I'm a Dem who's never taken unemployment, despite paying lots in taxes. Obama and Biden have decided it's only fair to have people over $250k pay more. I think the discussion should be what's a fair level of wealth redistribution. Since 40% of us don't pay taxes at all, and get stimulus checks we know what the bottom level is. What's a fair level at the top? How much should government be allowed to take 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%, 70%? Or should we just say no one's allowed to make over a certain amount?
- Alex Nesbitt
This is such a weird discussion. As if all Republicans and all Democrats believe the same things as others registered in their party. The Republicans particularly these days are a mish-mash of libertarian-leaning small-government economic conservatives and religious social conservatives...
- LogEx
...there are a lot of people out there who are truly independent, but register with a party so they can participate more fully in primaries. Many of these folks, for example, lean libertarian on issues of freedoms, justice, liberties, property, etc., but may lean economically conservative but socially progressive.
- LogEx
There are a ton of poor Republicans, and a ton of rich Democrats.
- LogEx
McCain is already covered, he gets disability, he really does. Is that not grand.
- MedicalQuack
from twhirl
In a country with so much opportunity for virtually every individual, I find it strange that it's considered ok by any mainstream political group to take money away from people who are willing to work hard for it only to give it to those who either aren't or have made personal choices that make it much more difficult.
- Jim Dittmer
I hear you but at the same time unemployment is insurance that everyone's employer pays into so it hardly seems like wealth redistribution to collect on an insurance claim.
- Brian Shields
@Scoobie - Employees pay for unemployment, just like they pay for health insurance. Dude, have you ever run a company? When you agree to give an employee $X, you do it in full knowledge that you also have to cover other costs for them - if you suddenly didn't have to pay those costs, the employee could, and would, be paid more. The government is only robbing Peter to pay Paul. Don't be dense.
- Morgan Warstler
It's amazing how the experiences of a little misfortune in life can turn a Republican into a Democrat. It's also called "developing empathy.";-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Cathryn: It sounds like you are implying Conservatives/Republicans lack empathy. Trust me, we do not. :D
- ChiliMac
The most "techie" FriendFeeders: http://scobleizer.com/2008... -- got anyone else who deserves to be on this list? Post their FriendFeed URLs here and I'll consider them. Every one here has been hand picked by me and me alone.
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OK, I'll lead the "least techie" list if you make one ;-)
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora: see my brother for that list. He likes cat photos. :-)
- Robert Scoble
:( i'm so sad...ok, disappointed rather. I run techineurope & the flippin' Apps room! :)
- Zee.
Boy I've come a long from being an ex-banker if I make your list Robert. Thanks for the inclusion.
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm sure it's a lovely list for those who wish to focus on tech. With that said, I opt to not check it as I'm certain I'm not on it, and I see more tech in FF than I know what to do with already: Robert's Likes take care of that =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't make the list? Aww. I think I am at least as technical (on my blog as well as FF) as a lot of the folks on your list.
- Phil G
I talk about tech that all of you guys are afraid to touch - chiefly an understanding of MS server products and the destruction of the net through the use of DPI (limiting bandwidth or even access to specific sites/applications across the net) and the abuse of DPI (phorm and their ad peddling scum).. do I qualify?
- alphaxion
It's funny since I joined FF I've found that there's so much more to talk about than tech! You might not know it from what I post on here but I am a super tech-head geek.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
How in the hell does one even become 'techie' on FriendFeed without just aggravating the echo chamber? When I first came on here, I wanted to post techy stuff. Even got myself a blog on Profy before Profy became Profy but I found myself always nine steps behind everyone else. Seemed like a dead-end rat race to me so I went with just being adorably obnoxious instead.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@akiva niching is your friend.. I seem to be the only one on here that can argue about active directory and the challenges to the core of power for MS that openLDAP and exchange-a-like apps such as zimbra pose instead of looking at a browser and declairing MS dead.
- alphaxion
@alphaxion, I doubt you're the only one that _could_ but you're one of the few that really _wants_ to get into that kind of religious war.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I am a "techie" but like others, I dont bother to post much "techie" around here because of the amount of tech. Not sure this list is even a worthwhile venture because ultimately what value will it provide?
- Scott Jarkoff
Good on ya, alphaxion!
- Akiva Moskovitz
thx for including me
- sean percival
Keep watching. This list is updating in real time. Zee, you're now on my list. Anyone who links to Leo Laporte is cool enough. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I would suggest adding Andrew Brust
- RAPatton
Who has the THX home theater? Which brother was a dope and bought the PS3 just to have a BluRay player? And a techie who doesn't game? Boooring!
- Alex Scoble
Do podcasters get a mention? Feed Radio Room!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Zee should definitely be on the list...
- Brad Brooks
I'm a techie as well, but I post the tech stuff I do and care about inside of rooms which I admin. http://friendfeed.com/rooms... http://friendfeed.com/rooms... http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Alan Le
You the man Robert. :)
- Zee.
I don't see it as a religious war.. especially since I'm OS agnostic. I grew up with apples, acorns and amigas, I was introduced to win3.11 in the early 90's and have supported windows server products from NT to 2008. I play around with linux and keep my eyes open. If someone genuinely does something good I'll agree, but I also refuse to fall for the "it's cool to bash MS just cause" camp and will acknowledge when they have done something right.
- alphaxion
Robert, I'm so supposed to be on this list. But before me, Zee for sure.
- Aaron Krug
I'm a techie by trade but social media has really fired up my interest in soft skills instead. I'm also a new father and low on cash so you won't see me ogling gadgets like I used to. I admire your drive to categorize everyone on FF, Robert. Hopefully you'll get some help from FF soon and won't have to compile all of this outside of the system.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
You are now working for linking the names on list, I am one of them; and really thanks for your valuable time! Hope to meet you one day!
- Erhan
I wouldn't expect to be on the list, even though I'm probably at least as techie as any of the other PR people or MediaBistro. I'm really most techie as an audio geek, which I don't post about a lot here. Does being able to compose music & do sound design in ProTools, Max and at least a few dozen other geeky apps count? I know, everyone wants to be on the list.;-)
- Cathryn Hrudicka
+1 Cathryn, there are many different kinds of tech, not just I got an iPhone tech. You should be sharing, I'd be most interested in sound tech.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Just realized i'm on the list. Thanks Robert !!!
- Nir Ben Yona
from twhirl
Robert, out of curiosity how the heck did you put this list together?
- Zee.
Ok wait, I'm calling BS on some of this list. Are you going by who these people are or how actively they post tech related items? Dave Morin is the 5426th most active user on FF. Engadget is 5505th. They aren't really participating.
- Shawn Farner
I was the lead engineer for Yahoo! Tech. Does that count for anything?
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
feel fee to add me if your looking for some geeks :)
- (jeff)isageek
i think Robert may live to regret posting this...:)
- Zee.
And also, note to the others: "Feel Free" to add me ; )
- Erhan
Zee: I started about a week ago. I went through all 3300+ people I'm subscribed to (I've been gathering subscribers all year long). Then I added anyone I remembered as sharing something with me that's geeky over the years. I'll write more on the list after I finish building links.
- Robert Scoble
Great list!
- Spencer
ouch, Scoble, ouch.
- Veronica
Frederik Hermann (netzkobold) http://friendfeed.com/netzkob...
- BlahGirls
Veronica: big oversight. You're on the list now.
- Robert Scoble
Your page mentions that these are not necessarily "techies", contrary to what your post here suggests. I think your page is right. Nevertheless, great list. I wasn't expecting to see myself there, but that doesn't mean I don't want to ;).
- Vinay | विनय
thanks! hehe.
- Veronica
Is Andrew Brust on FriendFeed? I can't find him.
- Robert Scoble
Aaron Krug: I subscribed to you and will watch you. I don't see much techie on your feed so far, so not sure I want to add you yet.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I really don't register with you. I always suspected. Oh well.
- Phil G
cue my Rodney Dangerfield routine...
- MG Siegler
MG and J Phil: sorry, when you make a list like this I'm bound to miss someone deserving, which is why I've added both of you.
- Robert Scoble
How did you miss http://friendfeed.com/robdiana? I even made Fruchter's list :)
- Rob Diana
ha ha, don't worry robert my feelings weren't hurt THAT much. :)
- MG Siegler
Thanks, Robert.. I appreciate it.
- Phil G
By the way, I don't care about participation that much. I use FriendFeed as an aggregator first, community tool second. So, if someone is bringing great content in here (like TechCrunch, who is my #1 most "Liked" feed) then I'm perfectly happy recommending that feed to others, even if he/she doesn't participate here.
- Robert Scoble
I scanned the list and it's not "techie", it's more of a "People Who I Recommend" list, Robert. Why not call it what it is? :)
- Mona Nomura
Mona: yeah, there's a few on there who fit that description, but generally they are people who bring me tech news and not much noise.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for including me, Robert - it's a great honor
- Jesse Stay
“Analysis of Robert Scoble's "The most "techie" FriendFeeders" List” http://friendfeed.com/e...
- FFholic.com
Yes, those of us who actually work in enterprise tech don't qualify. ;-) Kidding. I did send you a note re: Pandora though.
- Jennifer Leggio
We've come a long way since the "Elite Bloggers Joining FriendFeed In Droves" post I did six months ago. Good job, guys!
- Louis Gray
good list for social media and tech, a little light on folks who actually “make” real things - if there’s a “web 3.0″ coming i think it will be more about electrons meeting atoms than just facebook apps.
- make
wow, i did a quick scan and already i am seeing major discrepancies in this list including those that you say having feeds that are mostly made up of tweets. but because they are a vc or whatever they are on it. Sorry Robert, Mona's got you pegged. You should really consider renaming this.
- Carlos Ayala
Jennifer: I added you.
- Robert Scoble
You don't have enough Mark's on the list :)
- Mark Krynsky
Aww, Robert, you didn't have to. I was teasing you. I've just really started harnessing FriendFeed as of late. But it's a great network.
- Jennifer Leggio
Actually I'm not there. heh. Maybe it didn't populate yet.I'm adding a lot of folks I missed.
- Jennifer Leggio
Stirring it up again, my friend? Nice. What about me? I haven't lead you astray before, have I? (Oh, that little Scoblegate thing we had together.) We are on the cusp of a Cambrian Explosion of innovation, driven by the new "open stack." Follow me, so as not to miss any of the action. :)
- John McCrea
Thanks for including me in the list Robert. Honored.
- Mike Doeff
Hey, Robert, my FF ID is glenc (you have a link to http://friendfeed.com)
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
and thanks, BTW - this makes me a lot more motivated to contribute original content :)
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
John, I added you. Glen, I'll fix that.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks, Robert. And I like the "bad boy" image of your description of me. ;)
- John McCrea
What am I. Chopped Liver?
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks, Robert for the inclusion.
- Warner Crocker
Great list! Here are a few more that I follow: Adewale Oshineye (http://friendfeed.com/ade), Atul Arora (http://friendfeed.com/atul), Benjamin Golub (http://friendfeed.com/bgolub), Charlie Anzman (http://friendfeed.com/charlie...), Chris Sacca (http://friendfeed.com/sacca), Erica Baker (http://friendfeed.com/ericajoy) Jim Norris (http://friendfeed.com/jim), Sanjeev Singh (http://friendfeed.com/sanjeev), Susan Beebe (http://friendfeed.com/susanbe...) Tom Stocky (http://friendfeed.com/stocky).
- DeWitt Clinton
Robert - Please add me: MSCE: plus Security & Messaging; also certified Project Manager (PMP). Currently, I am the Manager over IT Integration and IT Project Management for Nelnet Enrollment Solutions (NNI) - includes Petersons.com, CUnet.com, CollegeandUniversity.net ($10M IT budget) - techie since youth - TRS80 baby just like you! VP of IT for PMIRochester.org. Founder of Rochester Social Media Club. Also highly technical wine enthusiast!
- Susan Beebe
Missed me and Susan? That's it Robert. I'm callin' Alex now
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks for including me on your list Robert!
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks DeWitt and Charlie! - you guys rock! Robert's list is rich with movers, shakers, influencers, networkers, early adopters, VCs, Execs, startup enterpreneurs, bloggers, software geniuses, and smart FFers!
- Susan Beebe
Thanks for the mediabistro shout out- Seamus from MB
- Seamus Condron
yayyy :)
- Alana Taylor
Boo! Where’s the regular people? The ones who ARE NOT “pros, gurus, specialists, masters, professors, etc”…… You forgot about the underdogs who don't get the recognition they deserve. Us little peeps need love too; these "big timers" always get recognized.
- ChaCha Fance
Hmm...
- abacab
Thanks for putting me on this list, Robert! But, I work for the Houston Chronicle, not the Dallas Morning News.
- Dwight Silverman
Hey Scoble. Yea, I'd like to be considered, of course. I'm a little late to the party, but hey... I'm here. Cheers.
- nateritter
You list people who work on Twitter songs or Twitter clients but no one working on Twitter itself. I know you at least like evhead.
- Niall Kennedy
Oh, and you left Niall of the list. : )
- DeWitt Clinton
i see slashdot but not MAKE magazine? what's up with that!
- make
I think I added all the deserving people who left notes on here. Keep them coming!
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for adding me, proving (yet again) that IT failures are sexy and enterprise software is cool. Yeah, right :)
- Michael Krigsman
Great list, Robert! Thanks!
- Apostolos Papadopoulos
Don't forget Sarah Perez and David Risley
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
ah, i'd been traveling and wondered where a rash of new subscribers had come from - scoble effect in action, thanks robert :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
This list made me feel incredibly out of touch... of course I AM out of touch, but I don't like to feel that way. (but good list anyway thanks...)
- Trey Ratcliff
follow lots of those, but no me :( I blame scoble!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Thanks for putting me on the list - can't believe that I actually made it on there!
- Charlene Li
I really hate these lists... mostly because there's obviously way more than 100 people that are worth following - or we'd all have following lists of 100 or lest. Partially because the first thing we all do is look to see if we're on the list - if so, we breathe a sigh of relief, then worry about 'living up to being interesting', if not, we wonder why not and get sort of hurt and offended (I know I'm in good company, my twitterstream tells me so.)
- Lucretia Pruitt
On the same level tho - they clearly create traffic and conversation - this thread is huge, people on your list are seeing bumps in their follows, and the comments are still coming in on your blog. So they obviously generate something. Unfortunately, some of us walk away feeling like we must be "failing" somehow - and that's such a crappy feeling. I know that I don't use FF sufficiently to make any list like this - but have to wonder about other folks who didn't make the cut. :\
- Lucretia Pruitt
Robert, I would add Jemima Kiss from UK's The Guardian to your list. http://friendfeed.com/jemimak... I enjoy her points of view from the other side of the pond.
- Julio F ~ @SocialJulio
Thanks for the inclusion. My gripe is that there are still only FriendFeed "name claimers" on this list. I know that a few people on it don't use FF at all. And you don't know what blogs I write for, Robert? ;)
- Tamar Weinberg
tamar: ff started as a presence aggregator and it still does a fantastic job of that even for the "name claimers" you dislike - i don't think its a requirement for everyone to be liking and commenting up a storm on ff to bring value to a feed especially if they bring a lot of signal via their included services alone :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Robert- Crazy girl who ran after you at BWE08....gave you my trading card for http://www.MyTechOpinion.com. I use my super powers for the positive advancement of real estate technology and social media! -Nicole Nicolay "NikNik" @nik_nik
- Nicole Nicolay
Nice list, I also started listing Finnish users of FriendFeed last week: http://autiomaa.org/2008...
- Daniel Schildt
@Robert: Nice list—just want to mention that Sanjeev is also a FriendFeed founder as well as a developer.
- Jim Norris
This most have cost some time to do, its hard enough to click on each one and subscribe to them. And it's exactly the kind of action that could lead to more people flocking to FriendFeed. Nice work, but I sometimes wonder whether these services pay you (don't worry, I already know the answer's no).
- Vincent van Wylick
I guess getting all those member interviews doesn't count for much ;-)
- Andrew Feinberg
one thing that is interesting about this or the criteria used, is that what does "interaction on FF" mean? What if someone is creating a ton of interesting content on flickr or podcasting? I am stoked to see the people on this list on it. Many are friends, and most I respect (there is that @technosailor dude). Lists are inherently flawed, the contribution of the people included here are not.
- Micah Baldwin
I'm honored and astonished to have made this list... thanks Robert
- Brian Shields
thanks for having me in this list, even though with the recession I am not sure anybody should spend too much time worrying about that... thanks Robert anyway!
- Loic Le Meur
from twhirl
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