I was on a conference call yesterday with the team about to flip the switch and release the project that I've been working on for the last few months to an internal beta and someone blurts out "Michael Jackson is Dead!". I'm not sure how they found out...
- Lindsay
The nice thing about breaking news on FF is that the number of posts required for everyone to get their OMGz out are decreased by an order of magnitude. On Twitter there's 5 tweets per person about MJ, on Friendfeed there's one post for every few people and then those pile up the comments.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Saw the first unverified rumors on Tumblr. Switched to twitter for more info and found a raging torrent of unsubstantiated tweets, most w/out links, announcing his death + a few linking to sources reporting the cardiac arrest and hospitalization. Glanced at FriendFeed and saw less rumor and more links to reports of what was so far known. Turned to Google News and found LA Times live blogging verified news. Kept hitting refresh until they updated with confirmation that Michael Jackson was dead.
- Ben Greenberg
WHAT??? MJ's DEAD??? Just kidding, yeah Twitter.
- Tac Anderson
@Mike - I think that counts as FF then, unless the tweet you saw had 0 likes and 0 comments. Don't discount the value of community filters!
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friendfeed but then I spent a couple of hours trying to establish whether it was true or not.
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
A rare occurrence, my boss was on Twitter and noticed the tweets and mentioned it. So much for me being on top of real time media. I was working! :p
- Josh Haley
checking in on friendfeed before going to bed last night - i'm on vacation and haven't seen a tv - also haven't been online too much either
- Chris Heath
My wife got a text from an SMS service provided by People Magazine. When I asked who sent it to her, she was almost too embarrassed to tell me.
- Chip Ramsey
Tina: That's fantastic. Were you by chance playing paddle tag or shooting the duck at the time?
- Chip Ramsey
Nope: I was trying to not fall on my arse at a roller derby practice. The last time I skated MJ was in his heyday, so it was weirdly symmetrical.
- FFing Enigma
A quick hack to script http://wittman.org/project... and so far the stats here are: (Of 101): Friendfeed:39 | Twitter:27 | (?):35
- Micah
Here are the ambiguous per the script: (?): I found out about Michael Jackson dying through VentureBeat while reading Google Reader feeds. - Louis Gray (?): From my sons, who may have heard of it on a WoW channel. - Fred Yankowski (?): CNN from my dad's Behold - Mohomed Abdullahi (?): email alert from a local news station on my phone. - Steve Lowe (?): I was on a conference call...
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- Micah
DrudgeReport. Heard about him being rushed to the hospital via MSNBC news alert popup. Was working and wasn't checking twitter/ff at the time.
- iTad
from fftogo
Is it bad that I don't remember? Let me get back to you...Facebook, perhaps? I think it was before I was gonna go do some missions and quests and try to get Pyros. My brother sent me an SMS before that, but I didn't see it until after I knew.
- MiniMage
Twitter - on June 25th - Twitter's trending topics told me that 3 celebrities died. They were 2 out of 3. I think Jeff Goldblum is still living....
- Mike Nencetti
FF, plus checking all possible possibles sources.
- diego morelli
My friend Missy predicted 10 hours earlier, I found out while making frenchtoast and watching the News, they said Coma, I said bs
- Tsali - A dude man
I woke up from a nap to it being on the news. In my groggy state, I saw his picture, and was trying to make sense of it. Finally it clicked, and then it was sort of like, "Huh?! He was only 40 something. That doesn't make any sense. " (He was actually 50) .
- Nimabeckie
TV News - in Australia regular broadcasting stopped on two channels as they covered the event in LA for most of the day - another station played MJ all night til dawn. Of course once I was online, I could see that even twitter was mourning.
- Chris Loft
Seesmic Desktop --> Facebook --> from Mona :) I later left to run an errand and listened to "Beat It" playing on the car radio during a tribute. I felt it was very fitting I found out the news from a combination of social media but actually sort of accepted it as true by hearing it on the radio - as opposed to something like YouTube. It just goes to show how long he's been around and how much has changed since The Jackson 5 days. The word revolutionary comes to mind.
- Melissa Davis
Twitter, just cuz that was the tab I had visible. Wait...when did I find out he was in the hospital, or when did I find out he was actually dead? Two diff questions.
- Rahsheen?
Associated Press's iPhone app pushed breaking news to my phone. So "other".
- Rob H.
FriendFeed (there were 57 votes for FriendFeed when I voted)
- Miss Elle
Text. (I was outside and away from a computer. Subsequently informed everyone at the call center with which I do business, since I'm pretty sure they don't have Internet access there.)
- Sue Radd
Email from a friend in the US so I saw it morning my time in Europe
- Krishna De
Friendfeed, but had to go to LA Times and CNN to believe it.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Do you mean "how did you find out that he'd died?" or "how did you find out that some people were saying he'd died?". The answer to the first is "on the BBC". The second is "FriendFeed" - although what I saw on FF was a feed through of Twitter.
- Ian Betteridge
Heard that MJ fell ill on Japanese TV. Saw that he died on FriendFeed. Checked CNN et al, and eventually they confirmed it.
- Rick Cogley
Via Facebook. I was surprised I learned about it there...
- Samuel Driessen
The News. I walked into my Boss's office and he had it on TV. I'd been in meetings all day at that point and hadn't had access to any of my connected devices.
- Jason Toney
When my wife told me. Same way I found out he had gone to hospital. I continued to not care.
- Eoghann Irving
Plurk. Funny thing was that on FF I saw a slew of MJ posts paying tribute, but didn't understand why everyone on FF was so MJ crazy. A friend on Plurk directly commented that he and Farrah had died.
- Criz
I found out Michael Jackson had been hospitalized on Twitter. then rumors started that me may be / might not be dead, so I tried searching the web for confirmation and found nothing. Soon, there were links on Twitter to the CBS UStream broadcast which confirmed his death for me.
- jbrotherlove
I'm currently in the hospital and i suddenly woke up in the middle of the night at 3:30 AM and couldn't fall a sleep again, so i turned on my cell phone and in the magic of that quite hospital night i found out from Facebook's statuses of my friends that he's dead. It was a very sad and strange feeling.
- Tibor Holoda
Got a txt msg just after 2p (MJ Cardiac Arrest 911) - Turned to my friend and said what the msg said and "He is goinna die" due to Ed McMahon dying earlier this week and that whole 'dying in 3s" thing. I didn't know about Farrah Fawcett until around 5pm. I was away from my computer al day and don't have a 'smartphone.'
- RAD Moose
Saw it in a Swedish tabloid (?) in a Coöp Nara (grocery) in Stockholm. It was in Swedish, but Michael Jackson 1958-2009 was clear enough.
- Ruchira S. Datta
overheard at Whole Foods. Mistrusted, unable to hear on radio (at 6:30 EST); confirmed at 7:10 via the New York Times who had just reported it.
- $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian
I've already loaded Facebook, Google, Evernote, and TweetDeck. Which apps are MUST HAVES. Only suggest apps you actually often use. I filled up my old iPhone with too many apps I never used.
- Robert Scoble
Things. Best task manager I've ever used. I use it so often that I moved it to the bar along the bottom.
- Akiva
Kevin: I'm not a big gamer, but would like to try out a couple.
- Robert Scoble
Try the AP mobile news app to try out push notifications.
- George Deane
Robert, you might also consider Blocked. It's a quick-play, no-impact puzzle game.
- Akiva
when will we have a friend feed app, i like camerabag
- Eran Even-Kesef
If you ever come to the UK, the National Rail Enquiries app is awesome. Can't live with out it now.
- Roberto Bonini
I got Tuner so I could listen to Leo on the go. ;) Also just installed HeyWAY, might be interesting for you. Games: How about Star Defense?
- Holger Eilhard
Try Snap2Twitter for tweeting photos - they just updated with geotagging...will compliment the new autofocus feature!
- Tom Parnell
Peggle, without question. Best game on the iPhone.
- Josh Bancroft
Remote - for controlling music through my home stereo system
- joeszabo
I know you upload to Flickr... Try Flickit. You can upload your iPhone 3G S images with ease.
- Jason Hansen
You definitely need the Read It Later app, extremely useful
- Antonio Montero
Check out Numbrosia, an original and addictive number puzzle. (Yes, I developed it.)
- Amir Michail
Instapaper. Great for those times when you don't have any internet. Also, Stanza for ebooks and Shazam to find out what a song you're currently hearing is.
- Leon Freyermuth
Definitely want to see a Friendfeed App
- Keven Elliff
I'd say Tweetie over TweetDeck. TweetDeck is still kind of crashtastic. Still waiting for my iPhone 3G S to be delivered! Analytics app, WordPress app, FlickIt (for sending full res pictures to flickr), Pandora, Kindle for iPhone, Scrabble (connects to Facebook FTW), Evernote, Peggle, Skype, Shazam
- C. K. Sample III
I would think Pandora, but that's just me
- Spirit 2.0
Keven: I second that, although MotherFeed isn't too bad.
- John Fox
BeeJive IM is one I can't live without. Also Skype, Sonic, Flight Control and Last.Fm
- Jono Russell
TweetDeck, Pandora, Dictionary, FStream (I use it to listen to live.twit.tv when I'm away from my computer) and Colloquy (IRC client).
- Antoniu
if you like to be in the photo - check out fototimer - I have used it quite a few times
- Eduardo Merille
BeejiveIM and Stanza/Kindle are my two most used ones you haven't already added.
- Antonio Zahra
You should get Twitterrific, AP Mobile, Flixster, What's On, Pandora, Dictionaire, Instapaper, TWC, Asphalt 4, and Shakespeare.
- Alexander
Evernote, Instapaper, Tweetie, Facebook, Last.fm, RTM, Satchel, Beejive IM and some games or something.
- Brett Kelly
it would be nice if someone took this whole list and did a review of the actual top 10 3.0 apps.
- Amir
Def prefer Twittelator Pro for tweeting. Pano is pretty cool for panoramic photo stitching in-camera. Pandora is a keeper. Free Memory or iStat could be crucial for killing runaway bg processes. HoldEm is the only game I end up returning to. Good advice on overloading. Better to overload with podcasts and tunes!
- Laura Scott (@lauras)
I'll cast more votes for Things and FlickIt - both superb. 1Password is great for digital wallet / password manager purposes, although, like Things no Windows client - you need to be happy with Mac and iPhone. Animoto is a great app for knocking together slide shows really quickly. Autostitch is nice for stitching together several photos for a panoramic effect. If you ever do voice...
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- Patrick Jordan
Pandora, Shazam, Boombox, Flashlight, TWiT.am, LaTwit, craigsphone, Units, Carpenter, & NYTimes -- I also have homescreen bookmarks for Wolfram|Alpha, FriendFeed, Wunderground, & GMail
- Chris Heath
Kevin, there are several already. I've been playing around with amigo lately.
- Akiva
Things, reQall, Weightbot, GroceryGadget, Photogene, iFlashReady, SpeedTest
- Ronald Barnett
Shazam - it listens to a song playing and identifies it for you. Use it surprisingly often when listening to the radio or in a business when music is playing. Very accurate. The majority of apps on my iPhone I never use...
- Steve de Mena
the only one I didn't see mention on this that I use all the time is I.TV
- Kim Landwehr
TweetDeck for the iPhone is NOT the best tweeting application. It uses up too much API, although I would still have it on my iPhone just to look at every now and then. Twitterrific is definitely the 5-star app ever since it realized its 2.0 version. TweetDeck is only a 3.5 to 4 star app in my mind.
- Alexander
That vibrator one that was posted on FF yesterday somewhere.
- SteVe C
1Password. I can't live without it on my Mac and my iPhone. Tweetie, Pandora, Fieldrunners (still love this game), GV Mobile for Google Voice. Many more above are great as well.
- Kelly Sims
SportsTap. I'm not a huge sports fan, but the ability to set favorite teams and get real time updates is great. Hopefully they'll put out a new version for 3.0 with push notifications.
- Carlton Prest
BuddyFeed, Tweetie, Skype, AccuWeather, AirSharing
- Susan Beebe
Photogene -- very cool photo editing application
- RobinDotNet
Try out Gokivo - the first TBT navigation app for the iPhone. We are excited to finally be able to launch our app on the iPhone.
- Mark Goddard
from BuddyFeed
I think I might have too much time - here is a count of the apps mentioned so far:Pandora 9 Evernote 7 TweetDeck 6 Stanza 4 Tweetie 4 Shazam 4 Facebook 4 BeeJive IM 3 Skype 3 Flickit 3 Things 3 Flight Control 3 Instapaper 3 Kindle 3 NYTimes 2 Peggle 2 AP Mobile 2 I.TV 2 Photogene 2 Twitterific 2 1Password 2 Last.fm 2 TWiT.am 1 Shakespeare 1 Peggle 1 AirSharing 1 Star Defense 1 Eye-Fi 1...
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- Ryan Barnett
TWC is The Weather Channel, so there have actually been 2 TWC recommendations
- Alexander
New to iphone but was a Touch user for a long time - I have many of these apps already - some new ones to check out now also. I just restored from my ipod Touch backup and all my existing apps came over. They seem to be working OK. Question - is it possible to rename my iphone as it now says it is my ipod Touch?
- Tony Vota
Yes, you just right-click on the name of the iPod on the right-hand side in iTunes and select rename.
- Leon Freyermuth
Trailguru, Sportacular, Livestrong, Foursquare all make my front page
- Ryan Barnett
@leonf - Got it. Thanks. It was actually a double left click to select and rename.
- Tony Vota
I'd swear by Remember The Milk as a task manager. Outside the built in apps, this is my most reliable and useful app, and there's an imminent update that I'm hoping will include push notifications. Other than that, my most oft used are Beejive IM, Kindle, Byline (for Google Reader syncing), Strands, Facebook and TweetDeck. And I'm posting this through a new FriendFeed app: AlertThingy which seems pretty awesome.
- Owen
from Alert Thingy
Must have for me is : Camera bag(Must have), Facebook, Tweetie and/or Tweetdeck(Not too stable), BeeJive IM, Shazam, Evernote, Airsharing, Urbanspoon, Remote for Keynote, Google Reader Web and GTalk Web.
- Yan PHUN
Oh yeah, and Documents to Go (Exchange edition) is proving very useful, just needs xls editing and MobileMe iDisk access.
- Owen
from Alert Thingy
@techsavvyguru - No problem. I just thought the right-click and select rename method was easier to explain. That does work, doesn't it? I haven't tried it in awhile.
- Leon Freyermuth
Great question, tons of valuable answers here.. very nice :)
- Susan Beebe
Evernote, tweetie, facebook, motherfeed, camerabag and camerakit
- Thomas Chai
another vote for Weather Channel and the radar videos. Also Bloomberg for stocks and Checkbook for jotting down expenses to be entered into Quicken later.
- Sarah Miller
Agree you need to add Skype, BeeJive, and Pandora. I also like Todo and NYTimes. Just getting my head wrapped around TweetDeck for iPhone; been using Tweetie up to now.
- Scotty Perkins
I'm setting mine up right now. I can't believe how well it works here! Thanks for asking this question here. This is my first iPhone, so I need all the advice I can get. I love this phone!
- Michael Fidler
iFart, iBeer and the iphone star wars sword. The most popular iphone apps.
- Charbax
I can't believe no one mentioned Yelp. I use it all the time, especially here in the bay area where you live.
- Sam Pullara
surprised no one mentioned truphone - skype and push notification support
- Riaz Kanani
'Things' is a daily go-to workhorse of an application, One of the best values in the app store.
- Dean Kakridas
Remember the Milk, Bloomberg, Evernote, PCalc, Amazon, the Wearher Channel
- Robert Hafer
I know this is lame: but I am addicted to the "Blowfish" game we downloaded for our kids. Trust me - it's very addicting. Weather Channel best weather app IMHO. Shazam. BuddyFeed. LinkedIn. Skype.
- Curt Mercadante
More votes for Photogene, Bloomberg and Weather Channel. ShoZu. USA Today. Is Urban Spoon a must? Not sure, but it came in handy when I was traveling.
- MiniMage
Evernote, Red Delicious,Skype, Google Voice Search, FaceBook,Yelp, BrightKite, Domain Tool, iSSH, and FTPOnTheGo are a few good ones to start with.
- Mike Elliott
I would but I ask you about a month ago in email what camera should I take on my bike you never answered back. But here are some ideas good mapping gps, google search, evernote. Now how about a camera pick please.
- Darren Lowery
thirsty pocket, Tweetdeck, phoneflix, shazm,skype,facebook,google mobile,mint,yelp and iwant
- Sai
Kindle, Shazam, trade Tweetdeck for Tweetie, FB, PageOnce for your bank accounts, Evernote, Google, and Wordpress. What's amazing about your list is that there's a lot of overlap among all the omments above considering how many iPhone apps exist. Very Few rise above the noise.
- Francine Hardaway
You need BeejiveIM and TweetDeck, that is all.
- David Ford
Nambu for all things Twitter. Password. Google. Conversion. Linked In. NetNewsWire. iFirstAid. Flashlight. Wordpress. Currency. Dictionary. Level. A good, local weather application.
- Greg Smith @ PR Lab
BuddyFeed is the best FriendFeed app I've found, and I'd go for either Twitterific or Tweetie over TweetDeck. Instapaper is vital, and either OmniFocus or Things depending on which you prefer on the desktop. If you're not a desktop app person for to dos, then RememberTheMilk is great.
- Ian Betteridge
compass, skype, bubbles, Google Earth & document viewer.
- Robert MacEwan
For video uploads direct from the 3G S to over 40 services you should give the new Pixelpipe 1.4.1 version a shot. Details at http://tr.im/p7vT
- Brett Butterfield
LOL. Now you're going to have a ton of Apps you never use!
- Dane Deasy
I like the one that puts mullet hair cuts on friends head shots.
- Christine Taylor
Robert - have you tried ALL of the above suggestions yet? If so, please report back with findings. :)
- Patrick Jordan
Waiting for push notification support for IM apps.
- Ashish
Robert - For news headlines with awesome photography - Thomson Reuters New Pro. Great for catching up whilst on the move. Keyword customisable.
- Tom Ablewhite
TweetDeck. I even bought Twitterfon Pro but TweetDeck's got groups and does it well.
- ronin
Thanks guys. What are some other essential apps I should d/l? Just got the iPhone today.
- Mike Fruchter
grats mike, I knew you'd come around to it :) I don't really have specific recommendations at the moment, most of the ones I used to use heavily have not seen any use at all lately
- mjc
TweetDeck is by far the greatest with its list and syncing support BUT it's only first release so it's still buggy. Give it some time and keep something like Twitterrific or Tweetie as backup.
- Andrew Trinh
go look at Robert Scoble's feed, he asked the same question and has over 100 replies; I wrote down 3 notebook pages of apps that I have been looking at and considering (and most are free)
- Sandra
Tweetie is still better than TweetDeck in my opinion.
- Louis Gray
iPhone app or iPhone client? Despite the silly name, have to go with Tweetie as the best client. Great interface and love the way it handles mutliple accounts.
- Joel Postman
You did say "Twitter iPhone app," sorry, just reread that
- Joel Postman
I use twitterfon. The groups of tweetdeck are nice, but it's still too buggy for me to use (many contacts disappeared, slow, crashes)
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Mike, I really love Pano for taking panoramas, but recently I've been playing around with AutoStitch a lot, too. Get 'em both. :)
- felix
IMHO-Tweetdeck is the best and has a great user experience, minimum touches/clicks...Steve jobs of the apple fame - would be proud !!!!
- Sai
imo is a web messenger with video and voice chat functionality. It lets you IM your friends on AIM, Google Talk, Jabber, ICQ, MSN, MySpace, Skype, and Yahoo.
- Sai
Daily Top 5 1. Rich Dad, Poor Dad 2. Giants of Enterprise 3. Authenticity 4. The Go-Giver 5. Finding Your True North Monthly Top 25 1. The Brand Bubble 2. Do Your Giving While You Are Living
- Sai
"Good" or "bad" parenting depends on whether it helps or hinders a child from ultimately becoming the best version of himself or herself. That's the test.
- Victor Panlilio
You're all good, as long as you teach him how to play gin, hearts, spades, and/or bridge; how to make a fire is also important. Don't forget BBQ ;-)
- coldbrew
Directeur: I like all kinds of music. Some of my best experiences were sitting on the floor in Preservation Hall in New Orleans two feet from the sax player.Jazz is great.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Lucky you! :) I was sure that you love Jazz!
- directeur
Exposing a child to "everything that is out there" is a recipe for heartache. Until and unless a child has formed the ability to discern what is helpful and harmful to his or her human development (in the fullest sense), it is better to err on the side of caution. Would any of you, as parents, give your child, for example, hallucinogenic substances, so that your child can be exposed to "everything that is out there"? How "out there" do you want them to be?
- Victor Panlilio
Content is different from brain altering chemicals, let's not get carried away.
- coldbrew
A brain still in development, mind you.
- coldbrew
Victor: I want to prepare him for adulthood. When he is an adult I would expect that he will go to Amsterdam. What will he try there? I hopehe surrounds himself with smart people who protect him from trouble. As to mind altering substances I am partial to Merlot and Oban scotch.
- Robert Scoble
Those substances are NOT illegal in Amsterdam.
- Robert Scoble
Adulthood =! every experience in the world. Even though the word "adult" in our culture has many meanings, some of them are not conducive to healthy human development. For example, child pornography is a thriving "adult" business. I just read in the news that there are hundreds of thousands of people who are addicted to child porn. I suspect that is a low estimate.
- Victor Panlilio
Nope. Not even a little. And I am qualified to speak on bad parenting.
- Martha
Panlilio, if you could point to a specific article that would support your argument that exposure of adolescent humans to ideas at the url you referenced, that would be helpful.
- coldbrew
My son, at age 14, was arguing about porn and censorship with Jonathan Adelstein, FCC commissioner. Again: protecting kids from evil does NOT prepare them for adult life. In three years Patrick will be an adult. I think he will be prepared.
- Robert Scoble
As for transparency, sure. My son knows, for example, that drugs can harm his brain development — he has a book titled "I am a Drug-Free Kid" and he knows that what he eats becomes part of his body, which is the outside world, just organized a little differently.
- Victor Panlilio
Scoble's son is now a likely child pornographer unless he is "protected"? My stomach now hurts, thanks :-)
- coldbrew
We have had conversations about child porn. For instance, to warn him that emailing a photo of himself or a friend naked is a felony.
- Robert Scoble
At least the song talks about safe sex.
- Bryce Roney
from IM
@coldbrew: I have worked on corporate networks of thousands of PCs, and we didn't go out of our way to police what people download to their computers. At my current place of employment, we have an acceptable use policy that every employee has to agree to, and if they violate its terms, they are subject to disciplinary action. A few years ago, an employee at the Dept of Defence (in Canada) was arrested for having 25,000+ images of child porn on his work PC — storage and bandwidth paid for by taxpayers.
- Victor Panlilio
Ok then. Well, on the subject of the song, I don't believe you are a bad parent at all for liking the it. I listened to it before and it's not as bad as the rest of them (pretty good beat too). It's also smart of you to teach him about the repercussions of child pornography. I've gotten a few "graphic" images, from people I won't name, sent to my phone. I believe it's called "sexting".
- Michael Forian
Re: safe sex — when I donated blood, Canadian Blood Services asked me all kinds of questions, e.g. have you had sex with a man, have you had sex with a prostitute, have you had sex with multiple partners. etc. They're obviously not interested in protecting my sensitive feelings or in being politically correct, they're interested in making sure the emergency blood supply is safe, and of course they're going to test it no matter what I say. But the questions are designed to discourage certain types of donors.
- Victor Panlilio
Yes, disturbed people do exist, but those people exist in very small numbers. Exposure to ideas doesn't make one susceptible to interest in partaking in those ideas. Humans have discriminatory abilities by age 6 at least, in my experience.
- coldbrew
Screening questions related to donating blood, a matter of life and death, are now relevant how?
- coldbrew
@coldbrew: talk to a mental health professional, e.g. a clinical psychologist who works in public health practice, about "very small numbers" — you might be surprised about how common certain mental disturbances are
- Victor Panlilio
Victor: I am more worried my son will spend too much time online than he will get addicted to some weird drug.
- Robert Scoble
I'll do that after I search the entire site you first linked to in order to support your argument that unfettered access to ideas by a 15 year old could pollute their minds and cause them to be interested in child porn :)
- coldbrew
Woah, and this conversation now makes me wonder again what could happen to people who assume that everyone they communicate with online is of age and send inappropriate content to someone who is not?
- MiniMage
@coldbrew: "safe sex" can be a matter of life and death for HIV carriers and the people with whom they exchange bodily fluids.
- Victor Panlilio
bad parent? no. bad taste? debatable.. :P
- Terry O'Fee
Robert: If he really is your son, why isn't he on FriendFeed?! He must have the gene in him!
- Michael Forian
Terry: I had a college professor who thought anything other than classical music is in bad taste.
- Robert Scoble
At least you have a relationship with him, and he feels comfortable sharing his interests with you!
- Freddie Scott
@Robert: "protecting kids from evil does NOT prepare them for adult life." I work for an environmental engineering firm. We design, build, and do things that help prevent companies from harming the environment, and if these companies have already done so, we help them undo the harm. By way of analogy: I wish to shield my son from harmful substances AND harmful influences. You ask whether you are being a bad parent. Perhaps it's not the "wisdom of the crowd" that you should listen to, but your conscience.
- Victor Panlilio
When my niece was 12, she clicked on the top hit in a search result, and it turned out to be a porn site. She very calmly said, "Oh, that's porn. Mommy already talked to me about it. Those people probably don't love each other, they're just doing it for the money." My sister had not prevented my niece from exploring online, but she helped my niece internalize the values that would serve her well in later life. I aspire to do the same for my son.
- Victor Panlilio
@coldbrew wrote: "support your argument that unfettered access to ideas by a 15 year old could pollute their minds" — ever heard of neuroplasticity? — http://tinyurl.com/ag2uk6 — there, that's my contribution to your learning
- Victor Panlilio
Dont' worry Robert, I can personally guarantee that you won't come in last place in the daddy awards! Finishing ahead of second-to-last, well, that's up to you to work on! :-)
- Morgan
Victor: I knew someone in high school who's parents were very religious and kept him away from all sorts of "bad" influences. No movies over PG. No talks about sex or drugs. Church every Sunday, etc. When he got to college he drank himself to death (happened to two kids I knew of in my Silicon Valley high school). If you don't give your kids real life experiences they will go overboard when they are out of your grip. I'd rather give my son some real-world skills to deal with this stuff like an adult.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: raising children is like holding a wet bar of soap. Grasp too firmly, and it will shoot out of your hand. Don't grasp firmly enough, and it will slide out of your hand. It is admirable that you wish to give your son "real-world" skills, but my best friend's dad's idea of "real-world" was to take him to a prostitute when he turned 16. So, your high school friend's parents were well-intentioned, but they probably grasped the bar of soap too tightly.
- Victor Panlilio
Victor: yeah, that's going too far for me.
- Robert Scoble
After hearing what Robert said: I've gotten myself in to some pretty embarrassing situations at boarding school when it came to drinking (especially on my birthday). But, if that never happened, I would never have learned the true responsibility of being able to drink. Another note: your friends at boarding school become more and more like family, and are always their to bail you out in situations like these.
- Michael Forian
Michael: I learned a few things about drinking: 1. you can drink yourself to death. So, don't engage in drinking games until you have some experience about how far to go (and you have friends around you who won't push things too far). 2. Don't mix drinks. Pick one to start the night and stick with it, no matter how tempted. 3. Don't get in cars with drunk drivers (remember, when you're drunk yourself you can't often tell if your driver is drunk).
- Robert Scoble
Panilio, I just can't follow your logic, sorry. We can just disagree.
- coldbrew
@coldbrew: According to the theory of neuroplasticity; thinking, learning, and acting actually change both the brain's physical structure (anatomy) and functional organization (physiology) from top to bottom... A substantial paradigm shift is now under way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...)
- Victor Panlilio
@coldbrew: In other words, the immutability of adult brains is now being questioned by neuroscientists, which means that our brains can be changed by influences to which they are exposed long after adolescence. And this implies that whatever powers of discrimination we think 6 year olds may have are still open to being profoundly influenced at 15, or 50. There, that logic wasn't so hard to follow, was it?
- Victor Panlilio
Re: drinking — surround yourself with trusted, reliable friends. Last time I got drunk, my friends took me home and tucked me in. No driving involved, we just walked across the road to the house where I was staying. :)
- Victor Panlilio
As long as it isn't a bottle of Coke or Diet Coke (your last update) then you'll be considered a good parent. As a current Diet Coke devotee, I have to say that your will power is commendable.
- Jay Cuthrell
Robert: mixing drinks, in my experience, is a BAD idea. Beer + scotch = room moves even when my head is still. :D
- Victor Panlilio
nothing against hip hop or anything like that. i just hate eminem's music. i like stuff like jurassic 5, greydon square etc...
- Terry O'Fee
not a bad parent... just a progressive one.. maybe even hip?
- titaniar
As long as you introduce him to the new Motorhead too. :D
- MarkCarras
haven't heard it yet, will have to check that out. I love Eminem.
- Thomas Hawk
I don't know the song either. But I think you are a great father that you and your son are close enough to actually know what he likes and that he shares it with you.
- Travis B. Hartwell
Hmm, is anyone else surprised that Eminem's still around? Although I'm not exactly a rap fan.
- Tyson Key
naa, Id be more surprised if Em wasn't still around Tyson
- Zee.
Nah..I raise my kids on hard rock, punk, jazz, hip hop, you name it, since they were little....I just use a little discretion when needed.
- Seagate
Robert - I think that makes you a GREAT parent. Why? Because you understand and appreciate your son's world. Music is a very large component of youth culture and development. Your shared interest connects you and shows that you care about his world... that is huge! Many parents do not care to learn or appreciate their kids interests. So I think the fact that you do care really is cool!! :)
- Susan Beebe
With lyrics like "Lick the wonder cheese from under my nuts" it sounds like a great father-son bonding song</sarcasm>
- Dylan Parker
yeah makes sense !!! teaches the kid the qualities of team work, unity, collaboration (50 cent, dr dre and eminem..!!...don't act like a snobby model !!!!! okay who am i kiddin ! Will the real slim shady please stand up !!!
- Sai
thats great the more the competition the better for the customers !! bring it on michael, lets hope you predict apple's moves better this time around...
- Sai
I feel for you Mike. You love what you do and what you do should not rob you off your peace of mind. Enjoy your time off and come back renewed.....
- Sai